Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Manual For GE Custom MVP

2005-07-14 Thread Eric Lemmon
Alexander,

There are dozens of manuals for the Custom MVP, depending upon the band,
power level, and feature mix.

Please come back to this list with the "Combination Number" from the
label on the radio.  This will tell us what components should be in your
radio, and that leads us to the manuals you need.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Alexander N Tubonjic wrote:

>   Hello All,
>  My high school radio club (Springstead High School Amateur Radio
> Club, KG4VJS) has a GE Custom MVP repeater, and we are in need of a
> copy of the manual to retune the radio. If anyone has a manual they
> wouldn't mind making a copy of it would really be appreciated. Thanks
> so much and 73.
> Alexander N Tubonjic
> KG4OGN
>
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 antenna above tri-band beam, what effects could there be

2005-07-14 Thread mch
I would say that the beam is likely below the vertical beamwidth of the
224, but how far below is each antenna?

I had a Butternet (Butternoodle is more like it) on a rotor, and I could
go from full scale to nothing by rotating it. It was anything but an
omni antenna. The 224 I would expect would be much more omni (reliable).

Joe M.

Mathew Quaife wrote:
> 
> I wanted to see wht other's thought, or at least concerns.  I have my
> repeater antenna at 92'.  Below that is a 5 element beam, and below
> that is a 7 element tri-band beam on a 24' boom.  Could this in anyway
> effect the pattern of the antenna, the slope patterns, ground effect,
> etc.  Or would this not matter since it is a 1/2 wave dipole type
> antenna?  Just for curious sake, since the question came up about
> coverage and dense area coverage in certain directions from the
> repeater site.
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] DB224 antenna above tri-band beam, what effects could there be

2005-07-14 Thread Mathew Quaife
I wanted to see wht other's thought, or at least concerns.  I have my 
repeater antenna at 92'.  Below that is a 5 element beam, and below 
that is a 7 element tri-band beam on a 24' boom.  Could this in anyway 
effect the pattern of the antenna, the slope patterns, ground effect, 
etc.  Or would this not matter since it is a 1/2 wave dipole type 
antenna?  Just for curious sake, since the question came up about 
coverage and dense area coverage in certain directions from the 
repeater site.

Mathew






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Manual For GE Custom MVP

2005-07-14 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:05 PM 7/14/05, you wrote:

>   Hello All,
>  My high school radio club (Springstead High School Amateur Radio
>Club, KG4VJS) has a GE Custom MVP repeater and we are in need of a
>copy of the manual to retune the radio. If anyone has a manual they
>wouldnt mind making a copy of it would really be appreciated. Thanks
>so much and 73.
> Alexander N Tubonjic
> KG4OGN

First of all the high band vs the UHF MVP are different.  Please post the
combination number, and we'll have half a chance of telling you what
you need.

Also, look at 
and read the directions about searching the index, then look for "MVP".

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[Repeater-Builder] Need Manual For GE Custom MVP

2005-07-14 Thread Alexander N Tubonjic
  Hello All,
 My high school radio club (Springstead High School Amateur Radio
Club, KG4VJS) has a GE Custom MVP repeater and we are in need of a
copy of the manual to retune the radio. If anyone has a manual they
wouldnt mind making a copy of it would really be appreciated. Thanks
so much and 73.
Alexander N Tubonjic
KG4OGN






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Mark A. Holman





Come to think of it I had a conversation with the 
Michigan State Police Communications department, they told me that  EVERY 
police, Sheriff, and Post has a copy of the Communications Manual , she stated 
weather or not anyone took the time to read it is another story.  and 
Section 508 has a House Bill  called HB 4544 which will change the scanner 
law no permit, but a commission of a crime misdemeanor or a felony has 2 fine 
structures and sentancing guideline .
 
I would not drink a bottle of pop while reading the 
proposed statute.  price is $1,000.00 to $2,000.00 and add 1 to 2 yers jail 
time, money is fwd. to the libary fund.
 
go figgure.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mathew Quaife 

  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC 
  man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
  
  What is sad is that NC sold the car to the public and never informed them 
  that it was illegal to use the car for amatuer radio purposes.  As one 
  mentioned, he was not impersonating a police officer, he was wanting to be 
  just like his hero, the fire man.  Argue that one in court, the law says 
  police cars, not fire cars, so if he sticks with that, so goes the law.  
  Called loop holes.  From personal expirience, they are cops, they make 
  decisions, it is up to them to make sure they know they laws they are 
  enforcing, and it seems in this case, unless he did something that made the 
  officer believe he was acting in that of a police officer, that he did not 
  know the laws, just read part of it.
   
  Good case in point, I was stopped by and Indiana State Trooper whom 
  wanted to know why I had a scanner in my car.  As I informed him, it is 
  my ham radio.  He had no clue what it was, or care much for that 
  matter.  He was proceeding to pursue the issue of the law. I quickly 
  pointed out that it is legal for a Ham operator to have such a radio in thier 
  vehicle.  He did not believe me until I pulled the statue out and showed 
  him.  Much to his ignorance, he then proceeded to tell my that I could 
  not have thier frequencies in my radio.  I then word for word read him 
  the law, very nicely, and then informed him that know where in there did it 
  give restrictions on any certain frequencies.  A call back to his command 
  post immediately advised him to be on his very merry way and to basically 
  leave me alone until I broke the law. 
   
  He apologized, made me aware of why his intent was, I agreed there is a 
  problem, but it does not lie with me.  We met to a mutual understanding, 
  and enough was said.  No one got angry, no bad words were spoken, and end 
  of story.  
   
  Unless this officer that arrested him had good reason to pursue the 
  issue, again, we only have his side of the story.  As the trooper had 
  explained to me, if I had showed up in an area that was dispatched for him or 
  his department, then I would have broken the law, and yes there is a law that 
  prevents anyone from showing up at a crime scene.
   
  Mathew
  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  What's 
really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can chargesomeone 
for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have totake a 
day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,etc. 
He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defendhimself 
with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind 
ofreimbursement. Pretty sad..Original 
Message:-From: Alan Bradley Jones 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500To: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC 
man charged with 'driving a cop car'due to ham antennasI 
found this on the net, It may be the same 
story.http://www.jars.net/- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 
AMSubject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop 
car'due to ham antennas> Can someone post the 
message>> -Original Message-> From: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia> 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM> To: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: 
NC man charged with 'driving a copcar'> due to ham 
antennas>> You got to be a member to get the message, I am not 
going to sign up justto> read one message!>> 
-Original Message-> From: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch> Sent: 
Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM> To: 
repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC 
man charged with 'driving a cop car'> due to ham 
antennas>>> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted 
everyon

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Gear for sale

2005-07-14 Thread Mark A. Holman





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Even a "bad" lawyer should be able to win this one.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' 
due to ham antennas


>I found this on the net, It may be the same story.
>
> http://www.jars.net/
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[Repeater-Builder] Midland VHF PA

2005-07-14 Thread wn1b8
Model 71-3400B. Anyone know about these? Please drop me a note so I 
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Thanks,

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread Richard
I agree... I read the article on some Ham related web site, and there wasn't
much useful information in it, so it's too bad we can't see the "film at
eleven."

Richard, N7TGB



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug W7FDF
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:48 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Digest Number 3232


YupI think there is more to this story then what is in text and
the photo of the hams vehicle [I found and read the article]. I
looked
closely for the "light bar" or anything red or blue attached to his
vehicle. So again, we are NOT getting the whole story.

Doug W7FDF

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "C Wayne Schuler"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could it be because he had some "light bars" as well as antennas
installed on the vehicle?  That'll get ya stopped.
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Mike Morris
At 08:02 AM 7/14/05, Ken Arck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>At 10:43 AM 7/14/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that there may be
>parts
> >of the occurrence missing from the story.
>
><---This occurs to me as well. It's hard to believe that he'd even be
>charged without meeting more of the requisites of the statute.
>
>I don't think we have the whole story
>
>Ken

Well, FWIW
Actual text of the law in question, plus a large photo of
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: NC man charged...

2005-07-14 Thread Al Wolfe
>From a digest reader,

Thank you, thank you.

73,
Al, K9SI

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT10 and RPA10-150 Information Needed

2005-07-14 Thread Mathew Quaife



Thanks Bob, I am going to load it up and see just how well it works.  See if it comes to life and makes the grade.  Will let you know how it works out.  As for the repeater problem, I think I have it solved, at least it is performing well for the time being.  Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT10 and RPA10-150 Information Needed

2005-07-14 Thread Bob Dengler
At 7/14/2005 07:16 AM, you wrote:
>Thanks Bob, was that when you took it down to the ham bands?

I don't think I retuned it; it was already tuned by someone who allegedly 
knew what we was doing.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread Mark A. Holman
You know all you have to do is ask them this...

If you want to get a Ham license its pertty easy, if you sell them on 
that , it may at least get them to tech level and add not only Police 
Officers, Fire Fighters, EMS and Weather Service.  gotta remember you sell 
Amateur Service like selling a radio.

I do that with the Michigan State Police, moto carrier enforcement, 
build a relationship, I found that draws their attention that you are on 
their side, then when a repeater jammer, or some crazy emergency comes up 
they will call US the Ham people.

but If they don't  well get the local ARES  RACES do some community PR 
stuff.  Radio Demos at county fairs, public service events, you have 2 B 
cre8tive .

Mark A. Holman  AB8RU ARRL Life Member
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- Original Message - 
From: "Doug W7FDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232


> Why did you not copy/paste the entire article into your email? There is
> no way I am going to join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/
> this Yahoo list just to read the article then have to unsubscribe from
> that list! I'd like to read the entire article. Why don't you email it
> to me directly?
>
> Indeed, it is sad that we hams must be subjected to this kind of
> thoughtless  ruling. With all that Amateur Radio Operators do for the
> community especially in times of disasters you would "think" that local
> law enforcement would appreciate the **HELP** we provide. Apparently
> North Carolina [ perhaps just a few lawmakers and politicians] don't
> feel that way.
>
> In the nineteen years I have lived here in the Tucson community I have
> been pulled over twice. Once by a Sheriff's deputy and the other time,
> by a Tucson Police officer and you know why they pulled me over. Because
> of the many antennas on my vehicle and, they even admitted, "out of
> curiosity!".
>
> Far as I know we have no laws on the books regarding "police look alike"
> private vehicles with multiple antennas installed. I have 8 antennas
> [and 8 radios to go with them] on my Ford F-150 and still get the
> "looks" but...only from the public! I often laugh when I am on the
> freeway [doing the 75mph speed limit] going to work why no one ever
> try's to pass me, even the truckers...chuckle-chuckle!
>
> Doug W7FDF
> Vail, Arizona
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232
>
> Message: 13
>   Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:04:56 -0400
>   From: mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
>
> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
>
> Details here:
> 
>
> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
>
> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread Mark A. Holman
Only in Wexford County, ( aka Cadillac ) Michigan

Mark A. Holman  AB8RU ARRL Life Member
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- Original Message - 
From: "C Wayne Schuler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232


> Could it be because he had some "light bars" as well as antennas installed
> on the vehicle?  That'll get ya stopped.
>
> Wayne, AI9Q
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug W7FDF
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:33 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232
>
> Why did you not copy/paste the entire article into your email? There is
> no way I am going to join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/
> this Yahoo list just to read the article then have to unsubscribe from
> that list! I'd like to read the entire article. Why don't you email it
> to me directly?
>
> Indeed, it is sad that we hams must be subjected to this kind of
> thoughtless  ruling. With all that Amateur Radio Operators do for the
> community especially in times of disasters you would "think" that local
> law enforcement would appreciate the **HELP** we provide. Apparently
> North Carolina [ perhaps just a few lawmakers and politicians] don't
> feel that way.
>
> In the nineteen years I have lived here in the Tucson community I have
> been pulled over twice. Once by a Sheriff's deputy and the other time,
> by a Tucson Police officer and you know why they pulled me over. Because
> of the many antennas on my vehicle and, they even admitted, "out of
> curiosity!".
>
> Far as I know we have no laws on the books regarding "police look alike"
> private vehicles with multiple antennas installed. I have 8 antennas
> [and 8 radios to go with them] on my Ford F-150 and still get the
> "looks" but...only from the public! I often laugh when I am on the
> freeway [doing the 75mph speed limit] going to work why no one ever
> try's to pass me, even the truckers...chuckle-chuckle!
>
> Doug W7FDF
> Vail, Arizona
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232
>
> Message: 13
>   Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:04:56 -0400
>   From: mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
>
> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
>
> Details here:
> 
>
> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
>
> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).
>
> Joe M.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Stew
Well if this fella is found guilty as charged, they should come up
here to Mount Airy where Andy Grifiths car drives around regularly.

Stew N4JSB
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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:09 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car' due to ham antennas

Do you have a link to the article?

Richard, N7TGB


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:05 PM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car'
due to ham antennas


This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what
is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE
uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 Questions

2005-07-14 Thread Steve Helton
We have several of the MSF-5000 repeaters on line. The CXB in the model
number indicates that you have the digital version that can be programmed
with RSS rather than requiring a prom. You WILL need a rib box and the RSS
in order to program this radio. We have not found a ribless version program
cable for ours. Check www.batlabs.com for information on your equipment
including how to build the interconnect cable from your rib box to the
repeater program port (it actually has two different ports).

Good luck 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 08:07
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 Questions

Hello All,

I have obtained a very good condition MSF5000 repeater.  The Model # is
C73CXB-7106BT.  I'm wondering if this is RSS programmable or whether a prom
has to be burned.

Also wondering if it will receive on 144.57 and transmit on 145.170.

Any help is greatly appreciated and Thanks!


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread mch
Nope - no light bar. As for not joining that group for one post, it is a
group that will continue to exist for any similar cases where the
government tries to infringe on the rights of hams. That could include
antenna issues, tower issues, scanner issues, radio issues, or just
about anything. The list isn't just for this one case.

There is a pic in the photo section of that group, too.

I'm sure Kevin would appreciate the discussion moving there since it is
OT. 

Joe M.

C Wayne Schuler wrote:
> 
> Could it be because he had some "light bars" as well as antennas installed
> on the vehicle?  That'll get ya stopped.
> 
> Wayne, AI9Q
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug W7FDF
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:33 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232
> 
> Why did you not copy/paste the entire article into your email? There is
> no way I am going to join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/
> this Yahoo list just to read the article then have to unsubscribe from
> that list! I'd like to read the entire article. Why don't you email it
> to me directly?
> 
> Indeed, it is sad that we hams must be subjected to this kind of
> thoughtless  ruling. With all that Amateur Radio Operators do for the
> community especially in times of disasters you would "think" that local
> law enforcement would appreciate the **HELP** we provide. Apparently
> North Carolina [ perhaps just a few lawmakers and politicians] don't
> feel that way.
> 
> In the nineteen years I have lived here in the Tucson community I have
> been pulled over twice. Once by a Sheriff's deputy and the other time,
> by a Tucson Police officer and you know why they pulled me over. Because
> of the many antennas on my vehicle and, they even admitted, "out of
> curiosity!".
> 
> Far as I know we have no laws on the books regarding "police look alike"
> private vehicles with multiple antennas installed. I have 8 antennas
> [and 8 radios to go with them] on my Ford F-150 and still get the
> "looks" but...only from the public! I often laugh when I am on the
> freeway [doing the 75mph speed limit] going to work why no one ever
> try's to pass me, even the truckers...chuckle-chuckle!
> 
> Doug W7FDF
> Vail, Arizona
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> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232
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> Message: 13
>Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:04:56 -0400
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> Subject: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
> 
> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
> 
> Details here:
> 
> 
> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
> 
> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).
> 
> Joe M.
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Midland Radio programming 70-342 - where?

2005-07-14 Thread skipp025
One of my associate shops (a friend in the same business) 
has the Midland Programmer. He charges about $20 to $35 
for any changes you need/want done (depending on amount 
of programming).  Not cheap, but it's an option if no one 
else can help. The programmer is not for sale, if it ever 
goes up for sale I'm first on the list... 

cheers, 
skipp 

> Benjamin Naber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone here do Midland 70-342 programming? Or
> does some one have a 70-1000 programmer for sale or
> trade?
> 
> contact off list, please... ied812atyahoodotcom
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Neutec series hr repeater

2005-07-14 Thread skipp025
Neutec is/was a commercial radio part of Ranger in Southern
California.  They made vhf, uhf radios with eprom program 
storage and an 800Mhz trunking radio. 

Repeater wise, they have 3 items... first is the full size 
repeater, which is a duplex mobile radio in a rack mount, 
which can also have a matching external rf power amplifier 
and power supply.

They make/made a duplex radio normally operated as a mobile 
package, which becomes a repeater at the push of a button. 

They also make/made small transmit and receive boards like 
the common repco and ef johnson units.  I'm not sure who's 
making them, but some of these boards are the same units 
with the efj, repco and neutec names attached.

Don't know if/how Ranger is still supporting Neutec but 
I have two of their full size repeaters in service for 
the last 10 plus years with no problem. 

skipp 
skipp025 at yahoo.com 
www.radiowrench.com 

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> I have a Nutec series HR 220 repeater. I would like some info on
it. 
> If any one can help it would be greatly apprecated
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Radio programming 70-342 - where?

2005-07-14 Thread Cody Hayden
Send me the chip and I can program it for you

--- Benjamin Naber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone here do Midland 70-342 programming? Or
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> ~Ben, KB9LFZ
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Mathew Quaife



On the contrary, yes there are those officer's whom believe they are above the law, and enjoy the comrodity that it brings at the local coffee break.  Having been involved in law enforcement, both as an officer, equipments repair, and now ems for the past ten years, yes, they do boast about how they got someone, even if they were in the wrong.  As they are humans, they will error, as #$%^$#, they enjoy doing it.  I've listened to them all.
 
Mathew
 
Captainlance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All too true, but being both a ham , and being in Law Enforcement, I cannot see an officer just giving a ticket for what he perceived as a " cop car"... this violates basic rights guaranteed to us all. Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that there may be parts of the occurrence missing from the story.Lance N2HBA- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:26 AMSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas> What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge> someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to> take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,> etc. He probably will win, but
 then he has to pay for it all to defend> himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of> reimbursement. Pretty sad..> Original Message:> -> From: Alan Bradley Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop > car'> due to ham antennas>>> I found this on the net, It may be the same story.>> http://www.jars.net/>> - Original Message - > From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AM> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop > car'> due to ham antennas Can someone post the
 message -Original Message->> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop> car'>> due to ham antennas You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just> to>> read one message! -Original Message->> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM>> To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'>> due to ham antennas>> This is slightly
 off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is>> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham>> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law>> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC. Details here:>>  This will be my only post on the subject.>> Please direct any discussion there. This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us>> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses>> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones>> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame). Joe M.>> Yahoo! Groups
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Mark A. Holman
Well the ARRL has Attorney Services that can get the charges dropped in lieu 
of a Civil Law Suit.

If anyone has contact with the ARRL  Regional or District Manager they 
should be notified of this.

nothing more embarassing than a T V , radio , internet news article that 
would really give that area a black eye and the City or County Council would 
have to answer to the Voters, like what happen in Wayland, the City Voters 
sent out a recall ballot last year all politicians were fired as Donald 
Trump would say " Youre Fired ! "   :-)

Mark A. Holman  AB8RU ARRL Life Member
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:04 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due 
to ham antennas


> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
>
> Details here:
> 
>
> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
>
> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).
>
> Joe M.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged ...

2005-07-14 Thread rs . gilmore

Hams from every state can tell similar stories; I think the classic involved a
Winnebago, a towtruck, and an impound yard  ;-)
For most cops, call-sign plates are just another weird 'personalized' tag...

My XYL (old-Tech) once got reeled-in while driving my 'company-radio' equipped
POV, & started getting the usual bunch of guff about 'scanners'...  from the log
tapes, the dispatcher (also a ham) recognized her name & advised the officer he
was walking in quicksand.

I suspect what really had him PO'd was that my SYNTOR was tricked out for
32-channel NPscan -- his only did 8.


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Butch Kanvick
Oh but he does have lots of recourse.
It is called "false arrest, or selective enforcement". Depending upon the 
state or jurisdiction.
If the law enforcement has only charged him and no one else, then it is 
selective enforcement and he can counter sue in small claims court to 
re-coup his wages, attorney fees and the like and the county does have to 
pay for the loss of work time and his expenses for the issuance of a 
citation that lacks merit.
It depends which jurisdiction issued the citation. He can also go to the 
Victim Assistance program for reimbursement, as he is now a Victim, of an 
over zealous law enforcement officer.
I would sue them all. LOL.
City, state, and the county, plus the officer individually and severally.
The burden of proof is still on the county to prove that he violated some 
part of the statue. I would assume the county attorney would ask to have the 
ticket dismissed, as the statue does not indicate anything about antennas.
He should also research the statues about Ham plates and registration for 
vehicles owned by ham radio operators.

I hope everyone is having a wonderful week.
Butch

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' 
due to ham antennas
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:26:08 -0400

What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge
someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to
take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,
etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defend
himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of
reimbursement. Pretty sad..




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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


I found this on the net, It may be the same story.

http://www.jars.net/

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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
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car'
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 > This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
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 > antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
 > enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
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 > Details here:
 > 
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 > This will be my only post on the subject.
 > Please direct any discussion there.
 >
 > This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
 > do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Fred Fitte
Gents, 

For what it is worth there were a couple of incidents here in upstate NY
regarding the same AND the HAMS were playing with radar in their cars which
got the police curious. They has Crown Vics with antennas etc.

It went nowhere since it is legal for a non-LE type to have radar as long as
it is in the ham bands which K band is. 

Fred

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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:02 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas

At 10:43 AM 7/14/2005 -0400, you wrote:

>Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that there may be
parts 
>of the occurrence missing from the story.

<---This occurs to me as well. It's hard to believe that he'd even be
charged without meeting more of the requisites of the statute. 

I don't think we have the whole story

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[Repeater-Builder] Midland Radio programming 70-342 - where?

2005-07-14 Thread Benjamin Naber
Does anyone here do Midland 70-342 programming? Or
does some one have a 70-1000 programmer for sale or
trade?

contact off list, please... ied812atyahoodotcom

~Ben, KB9LFZ

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread Jim B.
C Wayne Schuler wrote:
> Could it be because he had some "light bars" as well as antennas installed
> on the vehicle?  That'll get ya stopped.
> 
> Wayne, AI9Q

If you go to the web site that was posted before,  
, you'll see a picture of the vehicle. It's an ordinary dark grey Chevy. 
No lights, no markings of any kind, in fact there is no reason anybody 
couldn't walk into a chevy dealer and order one just like it-except that 
they don't make that model anymore. But when it was new, that color/body 
style/trim level was nothing special.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread Jim B.
Doug W7FDF wrote:

> Why did you not copy/paste the entire article into your email? There is
> no way I am going to join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/
> this Yahoo list just to read the article then have to unsubscribe from
> that list! I'd like to read the entire article. Why don't you email it
> to me directly?

Just sub to the group and set it to "no emails". You'll have access to 
everything in the group without filling your mailbox with messages. I do 
that with a number of groups to have access to the files area, or so 
that I can sift through msgs for one or two I might have an interest in.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread Doug W7FDF
YupI think there is more to this story then what is in text and 
the photo of the hams vehicle [I found and read the article]. I
looked 
closely for the "light bar" or anything red or blue attached to his 
vehicle. So again, we are NOT getting the whole story.

Doug W7FDF

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> Could it be because he had some "light bars" as well as antennas 
installed on the vehicle?  That'll get ya stopped.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread C Wayne Schuler
Could it be because he had some "light bars" as well as antennas installed
on the vehicle?  That'll get ya stopped.

Wayne, AI9Q


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug W7FDF
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:33 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

Why did you not copy/paste the entire article into your email? There is
no way I am going to join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/
this Yahoo list just to read the article then have to unsubscribe from
that list! I'd like to read the entire article. Why don't you email it
to me directly?

Indeed, it is sad that we hams must be subjected to this kind of
thoughtless  ruling. With all that Amateur Radio Operators do for the
community especially in times of disasters you would "think" that local
law enforcement would appreciate the **HELP** we provide. Apparently
North Carolina [ perhaps just a few lawmakers and politicians] don't
feel that way.

In the nineteen years I have lived here in the Tucson community I have
been pulled over twice. Once by a Sheriff's deputy and the other time,
by a Tucson Police officer and you know why they pulled me over. Because
of the many antennas on my vehicle and, they even admitted, "out of
curiosity!".

Far as I know we have no laws on the books regarding "police look alike"
private vehicles with multiple antennas installed. I have 8 antennas
[and 8 radios to go with them] on my Ford F-150 and still get the
"looks" but...only from the public! I often laugh when I am on the
freeway [doing the 75mph speed limit] going to work why no one ever
try's to pass me, even the truckers...chuckle-chuckle!

Doug W7FDF
Vail, Arizona

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

Message: 13
   Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:04:56 -0400
   From: mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

2005-07-14 Thread Doug W7FDF
Why did you not copy/paste the entire article into your email? There is
no way I am going to join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GovtVShams/
this Yahoo list just to read the article then have to unsubscribe from
that list! I'd like to read the entire article. Why don't you email it
to me directly?

Indeed, it is sad that we hams must be subjected to this kind of
thoughtless  ruling. With all that Amateur Radio Operators do for the
community especially in times of disasters you would "think" that local
law enforcement would appreciate the **HELP** we provide. Apparently
North Carolina [ perhaps just a few lawmakers and politicians] don't
feel that way.

In the nineteen years I have lived here in the Tucson community I have
been pulled over twice. Once by a Sheriff's deputy and the other time,
by a Tucson Police officer and you know why they pulled me over. Because
of the many antennas on my vehicle and, they even admitted, "out of
curiosity!".

Far as I know we have no laws on the books regarding "police look alike"
private vehicles with multiple antennas installed. I have 8 antennas
[and 8 radios to go with them] on my Ford F-150 and still get the
"looks" but...only from the public! I often laugh when I am on the
freeway [doing the 75mph speed limit] going to work why no one ever
try's to pass me, even the truckers...chuckle-chuckle!

Doug W7FDF
Vail, Arizona

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3232

Message: 13
   Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:04:56 -0400
   From: mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

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[Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:43 AM 7/14/2005 -0400, you wrote:

>Perception is not a basis for a violation, it would seem that there may be
parts 
>of the occurrence missing from the story.

<---This occurs to me as well. It's hard to believe that he'd even be
charged without meeting more of the requisites of the statute. 

I don't think we have the whole story

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Captainlance
All too true, but being both a ham , and being in Law Enforcement, I cannot 
see an officer just giving a ticket for what he perceived as a " cop car"... 
this violates basic rights guaranteed to us all. Perception is not a basis 
for a violation, it would seem that there may be parts of the occurrence 
missing from the story.
Lance N2HBA
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' 
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> What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge
> someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to
> take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,
> etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defend
> himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of
> reimbursement. Pretty sad..
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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> car'
> due to ham antennas
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> I found this on the net, It may be the same story.
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> http://www.jars.net/
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Mathew Quaife



What is sad is that NC sold the car to the public and never informed them that it was illegal to use the car for amatuer radio purposes.  As one mentioned, he was not impersonating a police officer, he was wanting to be just like his hero, the fire man.  Argue that one in court, the law says police cars, not fire cars, so if he sticks with that, so goes the law.  Called loop holes.  From personal expirience, they are cops, they make decisions, it is up to them to make sure they know they laws they are enforcing, and it seems in this case, unless he did something that made the officer believe he was acting in that of a police officer, that he did not know the laws, just read part of it.
 
Good case in point, I was stopped by and Indiana State Trooper whom wanted to know why I had a scanner in my car.  As I informed him, it is my ham radio.  He had no clue what it was, or care much for that matter.  He was proceeding to pursue the issue of the law. I quickly pointed out that it is legal for a Ham operator to have such a radio in thier vehicle.  He did not believe me until I pulled the statue out and showed him.  Much to his ignorance, he then proceeded to tell my that I could not have thier frequencies in my radio.  I then word for word read him the law, very nicely, and then informed him that know where in there did it give restrictions on any certain frequencies.  A call back to his command post immediately advised him to be on his very merry way and to basically leave me alone until I broke the law. 
 
He apologized, made me aware of why his intent was, I agreed there is a problem, but it does not lie with me.  We met to a mutual understanding, and enough was said.  No one got angry, no bad words were spoken, and end of story.  
 
Unless this officer that arrested him had good reason to pursue the issue, again, we only have his side of the story.  As the trooper had explained to me, if I had showed up in an area that was dispatched for him or his department, then I would have broken the law, and yes there is a law that prevents anyone from showing up at a crime scene.
 
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What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can chargesomeone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have totake a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defendhimself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind ofreimbursement. Pretty sad..Original Message:-From: Alan Bradley Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'due to ham antennasI found this on the net, It may be the same story.http://www.jars.net/- Original Message - From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AMSubject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'due to ham antennas> Can someone post the message>> -Original Message-> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a copcar'> due to ham antennas>> You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up justto> read one message!>> -Original Message-> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM> To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com> Subject:
 [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'> due to ham antennas>>> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.>> Details here:> >> This will be my only post on the subject.> Please direct any discussion there.>> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).>> Joe M.>>> Yahoo! Groups
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's really sad is that some cop with nothing better to do can charge
someone for a "crime" like this. It winds up causing the ham to have to
take a day (or more) off of work to go meet with an attorney, go to court,
etc. He probably will win, but then he has to pay for it all to defend
himself with no recourse against the court, police, etc. for any kind of
reimbursement. Pretty sad..




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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:29 -0500
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


I found this on the net, It may be the same story.

http://www.jars.net/

- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


> Can someone post the message
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> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM
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> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car'
> due to ham antennas
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to
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> To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
> due to ham antennas
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> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
>
> Details here:
> 
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> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
>
> This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT10 and RPA10-150 Information Needed

2005-07-14 Thread Mathew Quaife



Thanks Bob, was that when you took it down to the ham bands?  I'm planning on using this one in the 154 Mhz range.  So hopefully it will be ok there.  I'd like to use the amp in the 2 meter portion.  I'm going to hook it up here in a bit and see how it looks on the ham bands.
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Joe Montierth
http://www.jars.net/

This shows a picture of the car, and the text of the
law. From what I read, the car doesn't meet the
criterion because it has no lights. Also, the use of
the car must be with the intent to impersonate a
police officer. I don't know what this guy was doing
when he was stopped for this citation, but unless it
was something that would make you think he was a cop,
I don't think the state has much to stand on. Maybe we
don't know the whole story.

Joe



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> Of mch
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:05 PM
> To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with
> 'driving a cop car'
> due to ham antennas
> 
> 
> This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to
> be aware of what is
> happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice
> Classic with ham
> antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car
> that resembles a law
> enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.
> 
> Details here:
> 
> 
> This will be my only post on the subject.
> Please direct any discussion there.
> 
> This could be you if you have many antennas on your
> car (as many of us
> do) and drive through NC in anything close to the
> same model car LE uses
> (Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even
> any of the clones
> such as Park Ave or anything based on the same
> frame).
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Alan Bradley Jones
I found this on the net, It may be the same story.

http://www.jars.net/

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From: "Fred Fitte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


> Can someone post the message
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> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
car'
> due to ham antennas
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> You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just
to
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Richard
Do you have a link to the article?

Richard, N7TGB


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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:05 PM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Fred Fitte
Can someone post the message

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Garcia
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:04 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas

You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just to
read one message!

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Rich Garcia
You got to be a member to get the message, I am not going to sign up just to
read one message!

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car'
due to ham antennas


This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.






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[Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 Questions

2005-07-14 Thread Adam C. Feuer
Hello All,

I have obtained a very good condition MSF5000 repeater.  The Model # is
C73CXB-7106BT.  I'm wondering if this is RSS programmable or whether a prom
has to be burned.

Also wondering if it will receive on 144.57 and transmit on 145.170.

Any help is greatly appreciated and Thanks!


Adam N2ACF





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas

2005-07-14 Thread Fred Fitte
Joe,

Cannot get the article on the "cop car"

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mch
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:05 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due
to ham antennas

This is slightly off topic, but I wanted everyone to be aware of what is
happening to a NC man who equipped his Chevy Caprice Classic with ham
antennas. He is now *charged* with driving a car that resembles a law
enforcement vehicle. Apparently that is a law in NC.

Details here:


This will be my only post on the subject.
Please direct any discussion there.

This could be you if you have many antennas on your car (as many of us
do) and drive through NC in anything close to the same model car LE uses
(Caprice, Crown Vic, Intrepid, Impalla, Etc, or even any of the clones
such as Park Ave or anything based on the same frame).

Joe M.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nutec series hr repeater

2005-07-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nutec series HR 220 repeater, NUTEC was produced for ranger communications. ie: 
the ranger 5054 6 meter rig. I had a 450 radio that with a push of a button 
switched to a repeater. 


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