RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (let's have some fun)

2008-08-06 Thread Michael Ryan
Thanks for the cursory review Skip. I actually sent via the website a list
of about 6 specific questions about the SCOM 7330 .  Have NOT HEARD A THING
back from them which is most encouraging.  Perhaps they are going to join
the list of manufacturers who are going to go out of business.   They are
already acting like it.  - Mike

 

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Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (let's have some fun) 

 Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My own experience is that owners prefer the one that 
 they had their first really positive experience with, 
 learned the ins and outs of, and are loath to change 
 due to the learning curve.

Well... we don't mind changing when the new controller works 
well and has the features we want without an episode of Punch 
the Clown Face related to hardware problems, the software and 
user programming. 

 My first controller was programmed with solder - it drove 
 a tube-based 2m repeater receiver and transmitter so it had 
 a tube-based COR and PL decoder, 

Repeater Poker 2008
I'll anti the pot and raise the blinds by guessing... Motorola 
Sensicon, Research Line GE Pre-Prog, GE Prog or even an RCA 
Carfone? You didn't have a Link or Allen B Dumont Repeater 
did you? 

 everything else was Agstat pneumatic time delay relays,
 clock motor timers, and KRP DPDT and 3PDT relays. It had a 
 rotary dial (!) autopatch and a a 6m remote base. 

Raided some surplus electronics outlet..? maybe found a good 
deal or surplus commercial (tube-type) radio gear... even betta' 
the parts were free (donation)? 

 My second controller was another relay beast only it used 
 DIP relays, 555 timers, and TTL logic. 

And the 5 volt dc rail (by itself) easily drew more than one 
amp of current? Not to mention the heat... 

 My third was a home-brew wire-wrapped Z80 single board
 computer that drove a crosspoint audio switch and ended up with
 27,000 lines of assembly code.

See..! Those Radio Shack TRS-80 Model one computers did make 
great trainers after all. And all that wonderful RFI you had to 
hide/deal with. 

 Then I found ACC, Creative Control Products, Link and Scom, in
 that order.

ACC - Great stuff but expensive for the common man (person). 

Creative Control Products - Quirky and no fun to work with or 
operate. Their UAI boards were really funky to try and use... 

Link - Hardware for the most part ok fine... User software 
not so user friendly for the casual/new user. 

 The Scom family goes back through the MRC100 (about 1984), 

I have a working MRC-100 about to go up on Ebay. Great Controller! 

 the 5K, 6K, 7K and now the 7330. I've used the 5K, the 7K 
 and the 7330 and all are totally reliable. The random reset 
 problem I had was traced back to a bad solder joint in a 
 cable - not their problem, but at one point they were ready 
 to exchange the controller. I blew up a 7K by accidentally 
 shorting the +12 buss to the +5 buss, and Bob had it fully 
 operational, and back in my hands in a week. The 5K, 6K and 
 7K are fully supported to this day. How many manufacturers 
 actually support their early products to that level?

Not many early repeater controller mfgrs are still in business. 

 The 7330 is the newest (it's been in beta test since thanksgiving
 and been in formal release for under 6 months) and the firmware
 has not caught up with all of the hardware features (like the 
 A-to-D ports).
 
 The programming is straightforward. Some of the more advanced
 features are not covered in the manual as well as they could, but
 the book is advancing just like the firmware is. On the other
 tentacle, there is a 650+ member yahoo groups mailing list that
 is full of helpful people, all of which have been there , done 
 that.

...  have the Coffee Mug and Tee Shirt? 

 The S-COM Factory Supported email list is at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scom-controllers/join
 What other manufacturer has the chief programmer reading
 the official list? 

I can think of at least four... probably at least one or two I 
don't know about yet. 

 When I first started programming the 7K I asked a few 
 questions (that in retrospect look really stupid)
 and I had an answer in under 12 hours. How is that for
 support?

About right most week-days during normal business hours... 

 Mike WA6ILQ

The format of the SCom 5K 6K  7K controller user programming 
is pretty darn good. If the 7330 human interface is similar 
you will probably enjoy having one. 

cheers, 
s. 

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (let's have some fun)

2008-08-06 Thread scomind
Hi Mike,

Thanks for the cursory review Skip. I actually sent via the website a list of 
about 6 specific questions about the SCOM 7330 .? Have NOT HEARD A THING back 
from them which is most encouraging.? Perhaps they are going to join the list 
of manufacturers who are going to go out of business.?? They are already acting 
like it.? - Mike

I'm sorry, but?I never got your message. I don't know why -- maybe the website 
message forwarding feature is broken. Send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or?go 
ahead and ask your questions?right here and?I'll answer?in front of?everybody.

We are definitely not going out of business. Why would we, with?cutting 
edge?FPGA?technology and?a brand new product? Besides, it's a part-time 
endeavor?involving 5?buddies who are EEs (four of whom are hams). We enjoy this 
stuff and count?our customers among our friends.?We're having fun.?No reasons 
to quit.

Look at the competitive controllers and see if maybe we've broken some new 
ground here. This is a technical forum and we should be enhancing the state of 
the art in amateur communications. While?I've never seen?much interest from 
our?competitors?in discussing the technical aspects of their controllers here, 
we're not shy about that sort of thing. Ask away.

73,
Bob, WA9FBO


[Repeater-Builder] Schlumberger 4031 mod B module required please

2008-08-06 Thread dave_g7uzn
Hi All, I have inherited a 4031 but it doesn't have the mod B gen 
option fitted. Has anyone got a spare module or a blown up 4031 with 
the module in please?

I appreciate you can use the Ext Mod input but it's becoming a bit of a 
pain in the grass!

Any help appreciated and any expences covered...Cheers Dave UZN




Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread Jim Brown
I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and charge 
current at a solar site and asked for information on controllers that would 
allow me to monitor these parameters by requesting a voice readback.  I was 
immediately answered by Ken Arch (sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on 
the RC-210 capabilitys.  As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total 
lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.

What capability does the SCOM 7330 provide for voice readback and meter face 
configuration for A/D inputs in it's present configuration and software status?

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (let's have 
some fun)
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 9:27 AM











Hi Mike,


Thanks for the cursory review Skip. I actually sent via the website a list of 
about 6 specific questions about the SCOM 7330 .  Have NOT HEARD A THING back 
from them which is most encouraging.  Perhaps they are going to join the list 
of manufacturers who are going to go out of business.   They are already acting 
like it.  - Mike

I'm sorry, but I never got your message. I don't know why -- maybe the website 
message forwarding feature is broken. Send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, 
or go ahead and ask your questions right here and I'll answer in front 
of everybody.



We are definitely not going out of business. Why would we, with cutting 
edge FPGA technology and a brand new product? Besides, it's a part-time 
endeavor involving 5 buddies who are EEs (four of whom are hams). We enjoy this 
stuff and count our customers among our friends. We're having fun. No reasons 
to quit.



Look at the competitive controllers and see if maybe we've broken some new 
ground here. This is a technical forum and we should be enhancing the state of 
the art in amateur communications. While I've never seen much interest from 
our competitors in discussing the technical aspects of their controllers here, 
we're not shy about that sort of thing. Ask away.



73,

Bob, WA9FBO



 

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (let's have some fun)

2008-08-06 Thread Brian
Hey

My first controller consisted of a transistor and resistor connected to 
one of the terminals on the squelch
pot of a old crystal Regency radio for RX to TX PPT signal.  I had a cap 
between the audio out of the
RX radio to the mike input of the TX radio.

Hey, it worked...
It didn't have a lot of range without a duplexer though :)

The next controller I built used a Vic20 (remember those, still have some).

There was a board with an eprom on it that went into the 22/44 
connector.  The program on the
eprom started automatically.  There was a second board that had a 555 
timer and a PPT
transistor on it.  I figured as there was only going to be a few made I 
used the 555 instead
of creating the cw audio with an interrupt (more parts but less work).

If I wanted a timer time change or something I just got out the disk 
drive and monitor and burned
the new values on the eeprom.

I made one for myself and one for a friend of mine.  He ran his for over 
10 years until I provided
him with another single board prototype which he has been running for 
over 8 years.  Although
he hasn't had to use it he has kept the VIC20 as a backup.

The DTMF control came from a second board.  It was a DTMF decoder that 
had 10 outputs.
It was designed before the VIC20 controller.  It used a CD4067 and a SSI 
204 to latch / unlatch
and pulse outputs.  The output transistors were MPSA13's.  All the 
pulsing and
latching / unlatching features were one DTMF digit long.  I made two of 
these almost 20 years ago. 
One is still in use and the other is sitting on my shelf.

I have always had fun building repeaters and the controllers.

73
Brian
ka9pmm


skipp025 wrote:

 Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (let's have some fun)

  Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My own experience is that owners prefer the one that
  they had their first really positive experience with,
  learned the ins and outs of, and are loath to change
  due to the learning curve.

 Well... we don't mind changing when the new controller works
 well and has the features we want without an episode of Punch
 the Clown Face related to hardware problems, the software and
 user programming.

  My first controller was programmed with solder - it drove
  a tube-based 2m repeater receiver and transmitter so it had
  a tube-based COR and PL decoder,

 Repeater Poker 2008
 I'll anti the pot and raise the blinds by guessing... Motorola
 Sensicon, Research Line GE Pre-Prog, GE Prog or even an RCA
 Carfone? You didn't have a Link or Allen B Dumont Repeater
 did you?

  everything else was Agstat pneumatic time delay relays,
  clock motor timers, and KRP DPDT and 3PDT relays. It had a
  rotary dial (!) autopatch and a a 6m remote base.

 Raided some surplus electronics outlet..? maybe found a good
 deal or surplus commercial (tube-type) radio gear... even betta'
 the parts were free (donation)?

  My second controller was another relay beast only it used
  DIP relays, 555 timers, and TTL logic.

 And the 5 volt dc rail (by itself) easily drew more than one
 amp of current? Not to mention the heat...

  My third was a home-brew wire-wrapped Z80 single board
  computer that drove a crosspoint audio switch and ended up with
  27,000 lines of assembly code.

 See..! Those Radio Shack TRS-80 Model one computers did make
 great trainers after all. And all that wonderful RFI you had to
 hide/deal with.

  Then I found ACC, Creative Control Products, Link and Scom, in
  that order.

 ACC - Great stuff but expensive for the common man (person).

 Creative Control Products - Quirky and no fun to work with or
 operate. Their UAI boards were really funky to try and use...

 Link - Hardware for the most part ok fine... User software
 not so user friendly for the casual/new user.

  The Scom family goes back through the MRC100 (about 1984),

 I have a working MRC-100 about to go up on Ebay. Great Controller!

  the 5K, 6K, 7K and now the 7330. I've used the 5K, the 7K
  and the 7330 and all are totally reliable. The random reset
  problem I had was traced back to a bad solder joint in a
  cable - not their problem, but at one point they were ready
  to exchange the controller. I blew up a 7K by accidentally
  shorting the +12 buss to the +5 buss, and Bob had it fully
  operational, and back in my hands in a week. The 5K, 6K and
  7K are fully supported to this day. How many manufacturers
  actually support their early products to that level?

 Not many early repeater controller mfgrs are still in business.

  The 7330 is the newest (it's been in beta test since thanksgiving
  and been in formal release for under 6 months) and the firmware
  has not caught up with all of the hardware features (like the
  A-to-D ports).
 
  The programming is straightforward. Some of the more advanced
  features are not covered in the manual as well as they could, but
  the book is advancing just like the firmware is. On the other
  tentacle, there is a 650+ member yahoo groups mailing list that

[Repeater-Builder] Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (real world customer service)

2008-08-06 Thread skipp025
Hi Mike, 

Myself a Kenwood Dealer and Electronics - Service/Repair Station 
for all brands I can tell you it's really hard to be immediately 
accessible 24/7. More than once I've been guilty of dropping the 
ball about responding to all the things I need to do, which is 
something I/we try hard not to have happen. Work just gets really 
busy trying to keep the doors open and the mouse in the treadmill. 

Every repeater controller mfgr I've run across has been pretty 
good about trying to support their products as best possible. 
Bob  Dave at SCom are great guys to talk with and as you can 
see by his posts here... Bob does reply to posts and questions as 
his time allows. 

I've been very, very happy with my SCom 5K, 6K and 7K Controllers 
so I would imagine the 7330 would be just as much fun / useful as 
it's older brothers. I really like the user programming (software) 
layout of the Scom Controllers, which can be seriously lacking in 
some other brands. 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 
www.radiowrench.com 

ps: Same good things can be said about many of the other 
Controller Mfgrs who are also members of this and other 
Yahoo Groups... like Ken, Ron, Steve and Alan. Each one has 
been more than fairly accessible on the phone and by Email. 

s. 


 Michael Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the cursory review Skipp. I actually sent via the 
 website a list of about 6 specific questions about the SCOM 
 7330 .  Have NOT HEARD A THING back from them which is most 
 encouraging.  Perhaps they are going to join the list of 
 manufacturers who are going to go out of business.   They are
 already acting like it.  - Mike
 




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (let's have some fun)

2008-08-06 Thread no6b
At 8/5/2008 23:01, you wrote:

Thanks for the cursory review Skip. I actually sent via the website a list 
of about 6 specific questions about the SCOM 7330 .  Have NOT HEARD A 
THING back from them which is most encouraging.  Perhaps they are going to 
join the list of manufacturers who are going to go out of business.   They 
are already acting like it.  - Mike

They must not have gotten your message, as I'm absolutely sure one of their 
staff would have immediately replied to your query.

Bob NO6B



Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread scomind
Hi Jim,

I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and charge 
current at a solar site and asked for information on controllers that would 
allow me to monitor these parameters by requesting a voice readback.? I was 
immediately answered by Ken Arch (sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on 
the RC-210 capabilitys.? As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total 
lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.

What capability does the SCOM 7330 provide for voice readback and meter face 
configuration for A/D inputs in it's present configuration and software status?


It doesn't have that ability yet.?It has?a 3-channel, 8-bit A/D converter and 
it can send?digital audio files from flash, so the hardware is there. But the 
A/D isn't?supported yet.

From what we're hearing, looks like the next controller?will need more A/D 
inputs, and probably needs to be wider.

73,
Bob


[Repeater-Builder] Early Home-Brew Repeater Controllers

2008-08-06 Thread skipp025
 Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey
 My first controller consisted of a transistor and resistor 
 connected to one of the terminals on the squelch pot of a 
 old crystal Regency radio for RX to TX PPT signal.  I had 
 a cap between the audio out of the RX radio to the mike input 
 of the TX radio.
 Hey, it worked...

... and remains a viable way to make a poor mans repeater 
interface. Not to mention it's cheap and fairly easy to construct. 

 It didn't have a lot of range without a duplexer though :)

Probably the fault of the receiver front end... or lack there of. 

 The next controller I built used a Vic20 (remember those, still 
 have some). 

I see a twinkle in your eye... 

 There was a board with an eprom on it that went into the 
 22/44 connector.  The program on the eprom started 
 automatically.  There was a second board that had a 555 
 timer and a PPT transistor on it.  I figured as there 
 was only going to be a few made I used the 555 instead
 of creating the cw audio with an interrupt (more parts 
 but less work).

A smart and innovative guy... 

 If I wanted a timer time change or something I just got 
 out the disk drive and monitor and burned the new values 
 on the Eprom.
 
 I made one for myself and one for a friend of mine.  He ran 
 his for over 10 years until I provided him with another 
 single board prototype which he has been running for 
 over 8 years.  Although he hasn't had to use it he has 
 kept the VIC20 as a backup.

You could play video games at the repeater site. One of the main 
simulcast system alignment computers used by our CHP had a few 
dos games on it... 

 The DTMF control came from a second board.  It was a DTMF 
 decoder that had 10 outputs. It was designed before the 
 VIC20 controller.  It used a CD4067 and a SSI 204 to latch 
 / unlatch and pulse outputs.  The output transistors were 
 MPSA13's.  All the pulsing and latching / unlatching features 
 were one DTMF digit long.  I made two of these almost 20 
 years ago. One is still in use and the other is sitting 
 on my shelf.

Three guys on this Group for the next 30 seconds are wondering 
where they put their old Vic 20 computers... 

 I have always had fun building repeaters and the controllers.
 73
 Brian
 ka9pmm

What it's all about Brian, 

cheers,
s. 



Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and 
charge current at a solar site and asked for information on 
controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by 
requesting a voice readback.  I was immediately answered by Ken Arch 
(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210 
capabilitys.  As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total 
lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.


---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not only 
readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And 
while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there 
is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which 
effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but 
from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and 
hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite 
good from our users as well.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SCOM 7330 Experiences anyone? (let's have some fun)

2008-08-06 Thread DCFluX
My first repeater back in 1996 or so was a Motorola Research Line all
tube 'coffin' eqquiped with a 'Sensicon G' receiver with ovened
crystals in both transmit and receive strips. Controlling that was a
CES Repeater Maker RM-10 with a custom built Voice IDer based on the
Radio Shack carried ISD-1000A voice recorder.

The repeater did not have a duplexer, only 2 band pass cavities. The
antennas were placed at the corners of a hotels tower for about 500
feet of horizontal seperation. The antennas were 2m Ringos, and there
was no desense.

The repeater was unpluged by one of the radio techs out of Vegas that
was blaming it for interfering with the hotels repeater, which was
still getting interference long after it was unpluged. But no dice,
they wanted it out of there so it was moved.

Later that summer  it was decided that the 'space heater' effect of
the repeater was no longer desirable it was replaced with 2 hand helds
and a GE MASTR-II power block. The coffin was gutted out, and had an
electric habachi installed to be transformed into the first Motorola
fish smoker.


Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread Cort Buffington
I've had great success with the RC210 A/D. Of course I hate LM335s,  
but that's not Arcom's fault. My experience with SCOM would tell me  
that when their support is included, it will be bulletproof.


On Aug 6, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Ken Arck wrote:


At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and
charge current at a solar site and asked for information on
controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by
requesting a voice readback. I was immediately answered by Ken Arch
(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210
capabilitys. As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total
lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.

---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not only
readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And
while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there
is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which
effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but
from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and
hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite
good from our users as well.

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!





--
Cort Buffington
H: +1-785-838-3034
M: +1-785-865-7206






[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-830

2008-08-06 Thread KD4PBC
 I have a TKR 830 UHF Kenwood Repeater Excellent shape.

This is the model before the TKR 840 factory says it has the same 

same specifications as the TKR840 except does not do NRZ paging 

and the inputs/outputs are fixed. 

$750.00 shipped to your door (lower 48 only) elsewhere email for shipping 

Robert Mitchell





[Repeater-Builder] Diplexers and radios

2008-08-06 Thread Ken
I have some mobile diplexers 400mhz  and 470mhz

also 20x Plessey MTR 8000 and manuals

I worked at Sydney Tower radio room for 16 years and have collected a
lot of equipment( a garage full, you all know what i mean)

Is there any where to post this and more equipment. I prefer it goes
to active enthusiast.

Im based in Sydney Australia.

Thanks



[Repeater-Builder] 800MHZ COMBINER CAVITIES

2008-08-06 Thread Doug
I have come across a set of combiner filters for 863mhz. These are 
Sinclair C4337-1RWB units.
There are three bandpass and two notch cavities per set. In other 
words, 5 cavities for tx and
five for receive. The cavities are 12X6.5 inches. they appear to be 
3/4wave at 863mhz.(or so)
Not sure what kind of system they came off of. 800mhz stuff around 
here is very scarce.

The cavities look like they could be reworked to make a 220 duplexer 
with a little effort.
Does anyone have any experience with these or know anything about them??

Thanks
Doug VE5DA




Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread Jim Brown
Ken, my problem is that when a company sells me something that turns out to be 
totally useless and then fails to offer any solution or compensation, it is 
hard for me to have any confidence in their products.

I attempted to join the RC-110 Yahoo group twice and both times I was refused 
entry by the moderator.  I thought there I might be able to find out what some 
other folks were doing to solve the problems.

I understand that some technical problems are difficult if not impossible to 
fix, and that the microprocessor chosen for the RC-110 was a bad choice, but I 
don't understand the attitude of 'you bought it - now go live with it'.  That 
just does not instill any confidence in that companys products.

Sorry - but that is my feeling.

73 - Jim W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:29 AM











At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:



I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and 

charge current at a solar site and asked for information on 

controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by 

requesting a voice readback.  I was immediately answered by Ken Arch 

(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210 

capabilitys.  As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total 

lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.



---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not only 

readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And 

while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there 

is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which 

effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but 

from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and 

hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite 

good from our users as well.



Ken

 - - - - - -

President and CTO - Arcom Communications

Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.

http://www.arcomcon trollers. com/

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and

we offer complete repeater packages!

AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000

http://www.irlp. net

We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!




  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread Ken Arck
Let's take this offlist. Perhaps we can work something out that is 
workable for us both (for example, might you  be interested in us 
taking the 110 back in partial trade?)


Ken


At 01:04 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

Ken, my problem is that when a company sells me something that turns 
out to be totally useless and then fails to offer any solution or 
compensation, it is hard for me to have any confidence in their products.


I attempted to join the RC-110 Yahoo group twice and both times I 
was refused entry by the moderator.  I thought there I might be able 
to find out what some other folks were doing to solve the problems.


I understand that some technical problems are difficult if not 
impossible to fix, and that the microprocessor chosen for the RC-110 
was a bad choice, but I don't understand the attitude of 'you bought 
it - now go live with it'.  That just does not instill any 
confidence in that companys products.


Sorry - but that is my feeling.

73 - Jim W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:29 AM

At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and
charge current at a solar site and asked for information on
controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by
requesting a voice readback. I was immediately answered by Ken Arch
(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210
capabilitys. As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total
lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.

---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not only
readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And
while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there
is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which
effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but
from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and
hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite
good from our users as well.

Ken
 - - - - - -
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/http://www.arcomcon trollers. com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.nethttp://www.irlp. net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!





--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!


Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread DCFluX
I'd be intrested in looking at the once open source code for the
RC-110 and earlier versions of the RC-210 before the decision was made
to close it.

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let's take this offlist. Perhaps we can work something out that is workable
 for us both (for example, might you  be interested in us taking the 110 back
 in partial trade?)

 Ken


 At 01:04 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

 Ken, my problem is that when a company sells me something that turns out to
 be totally useless and then fails to offer any solution or compensation, it
 is hard for me to have any confidence in their products.

 I attempted to join the RC-110 Yahoo group twice and both times I was
 refused entry by the moderator.  I thought there I might be able to find out
 what some other folks were doing to solve the problems.

 I understand that some technical problems are difficult if not impossible to
 fix, and that the microprocessor chosen for the RC-110 was a bad choice, but
 I don't understand the attitude of 'you bought it - now go live with it'.
 That just does not instill any confidence in that companys products.

 Sorry - but that is my feeling.

 73 - Jim W5ZIT

 --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:29 AM

 At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and
charge current at a solar site and asked for information on
controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by
requesting a voice readback. I was immediately answered by Ken Arch
(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210
capabilitys. As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total
lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.

 ---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not only
 readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And
 while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there
 is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which
 effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but
 from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and
 hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite
 good from our users as well.

 Ken
  - - - - - -
 President and CTO - Arcom Communications
 Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
 http://www.arcomcon trollers. com/
 Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
 we offer complete repeater packages!
 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
 http://www.irlp. net
 We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!


 
 --
 President and CTO - Arcom Communications
 Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
 http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
 Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
 we offer complete repeater packages!
 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
 http://www.irlp.net
 We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!


Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread Alexandre Souza
Ken, my problem is that when a company sells me something that turns out to 
be totally useless and then fails to offer any solution or compensation, 
it is hard for me to have any confidence in their products.

Talk this way to Intel, Nvidia, AMD, ATI or any PC manufacturer? :o)

Greetz from Brazil
Alexandre Souza
PU1BZZ



[Repeater-Builder] Re: kxn-1024 conversion

2008-08-06 Thread fxbuilder
Thanks for the reply. I know they are interchangable but I need the
2.5. for GMRS. Anyone have one kxn-1029? Thanks
Craig



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Both elements are interchangeable, only the stability is different,
2.5 parts vs. 5 PPM
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: fxbuilder 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:46 PM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: kxn-1024 conversion
 
 
   Perhaps someone has a kxn-1029 that I can purchase? Please contact me
   off the list. Thanks
   Craig
 
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, fxbuilder fxbuilder@
   wrote:
   
So, the kxn-1029 is hard to find. Can a 1024 be modified to be a
1029?
I've got several Micors I'd like to turn into GMRS repeaters.
Any help
would be appreciated. Thanks, Craig
   
 
 
 

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[Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread jimmyrtle
We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. Anyone 
have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be exposed to 
normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)

Jim



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread Joe
 From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is a loser.

Joe

jimmyrtle wrote:
 We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. Anyone 
 have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be exposed to 
 normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)

 Jim


   



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread k6jsi
Kick it up a notch, and move up to the Hustler Spirit.  You'll be 
glad you did.

Shorty, K6JSI

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is 
a loser.
 
 Joe
 
 jimmyrtle wrote:
  We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. 
Anyone 
  have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be 
exposed to 
  normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)
 
  Jim
 
 
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread Cort Buffington
One of the groups I was with used a G6-270R for a few years. It seemed  
to work about as well as a similar sized (but a LOT thicker)  
commercial antenna that we'd also used. Feedline was the same and they  
were both about the same height on top of a building. I know there  
have been a lot of complaints here about the Hustlers, so I'm about to  
use a Diamond X50 on a project instead of another G6-270R. I figure if  
the Diamond doesn't work out, it was only $100. Sure, I know, a DB-420  
is better, but sometimes you have to hide the little ham antenna  
amongst the big other ones so nobody notices it :) Good site with an  
X50 is going to beat the top of my house with a DB-420.


On Aug 6, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Joe wrote:

From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is a  
loser.


Joe

jimmyrtle wrote:
 We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine.  
Anyone
 have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be  
exposed to

 normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)

 Jim








--
Cort Buffington
H: +1-785-838-3034
M: +1-785-865-7206






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread wesley011


 Joe,

Have used the G440 on my Repeater iin Ohio. Works very well, except when 
it ices up, then SWR  range goes Down.


Wesley AB8KD

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at  5:43 PM, Joe wrote:

From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is a 
loser.


Joe

jimmyrtle wrote:
We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. 
Anyone have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be 
exposed to normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind 
ice...etc..)

Jim







Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread Jim Brown
One last comment Ken, and I won't pester you any more.  If a partial trade 
would be for an RC-210, I am afraid I am not interested.  I got the RC-110 that 
I have from a friend who was anxious to get a repeater on the air and rather 
than mess with the RC-110, which was not working, he bought an RC-210.  When he 
hooked the RC-210 up he found LANDS MISSING on one of the ports for the audio.  
It was not just a bad etch, the lands had never been there so far as he could 
determine.  That sure does not speak well of the Quality Assurance for the 
RC-210 product.

I hate to bring all this up, but once bit - twice shy is my motto.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 3:11 PM













Let's take this offlist. Perhaps we can work something out that is
workable for us both (for example, might you  be interested in us
taking the 110 back in partial trade?)


Ken




At 01:04 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:


Ken, my problem is that when a
company sells me something that turns out to be totally useless and then
fails to offer any solution or compensation, it is hard for me to have
any confidence in their products.


I attempted to join the RC-110 Yahoo group twice and both times I was
refused entry by the moderator.  I thought there I might be able to
find out what some other folks were doing to solve the problems.


I understand that some technical problems are difficult if not impossible
to fix, and that the microprocessor chosen for the RC-110 was a bad
choice, but I don't understand the attitude of 'you bought it - now go
live with it'.  That just does not instill any confidence in that
companys products.


Sorry - but that is my feeling.


73 - Jim W5ZIT


--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
wrote:



From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] net


Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] SCOM 7330 Question


To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com


Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:29 AM



At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:



I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and



charge current at a solar site and asked for information on 


controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by



requesting a voice readback. I was immediately answered by Ken
Arch 


(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210 


capabilitys. As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's
total 


lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road
again.



---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not
only 


readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And



while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there



is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which



effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but



from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and



hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite



good from our users as well.



Ken


 - - - - - -


President and CTO - Arcom Communications


Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.


http://www.arcomcon
trollers. com/


Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and


we offer complete repeater packages!


AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000


http://www.irlp. net


We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!



___

 

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread Ken Arck

Ok Jim.

I have to say I find that hard to believe as every single 210 that is 
purchased assembled  tested is tested on all 3 Ports for proper 
operations. If lands were missing, it would have never left here. 
Unless your friend purchased a kit in which case we have no control 
over its construction, so who knows what may have happened there.


But fair enough. Good luck with your endeavors and hope your project 
goes smoothly


Ken



At 03:05 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

One last comment Ken, and I won't pester you any more.  If a partial 
trade would be for an RC-210, I am afraid I am not interested.  I 
got the RC-110 that I have from a friend who was anxious to get a 
repeater on the air and rather than mess with the RC-110, which was 
not working, he bought an RC-210.  When he hooked the RC-210 up he 
found LANDS MISSING on one of the ports for the audio.  It was not 
just a bad etch, the lands had never been there so far as he could 
determine.  That sure does not speak well of the Quality Assurance 
for the RC-210 product.


I hate to bring all this up, but once bit - twice shy is my motto.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 3:11 PM

Let's take this offlist. Perhaps we can work something out that is 
workable for us both (for example, might you  be interested in us 
taking the 110 back in partial trade?)


Ken


At 01:04 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

Ken, my problem is that when a company sells me something that 
turns out to be totally useless and then fails to offer any 
solution or compensation, it is hard for me to have any confidence 
in their products.


I attempted to join the RC-110 Yahoo group twice and both times I 
was refused entry by the moderator.  I thought there I might be 
able to find out what some other folks were doing to solve the problems.


I understand that some technical problems are difficult if not 
impossible to fix, and that the microprocessor chosen for the 
RC-110 was a bad choice, but I don't understand the attitude of 
'you bought it - now go live with it'.  That just does not instill 
any confidence in that companys products.


Sorry - but that is my feeling.

73 - Jim W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote:
From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] SCOM 7330 Question
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:29 AM
At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:
I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and
charge current at a solar site and asked for information on
controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by
requesting a voice readback. I was immediately answered by Ken Arch
(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210
capabilitys. As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total
lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.
---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not only
readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And
while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there
is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which
effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but
from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and
hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite
good from our users as well.
Ken
 - - - - - -
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/http://www.arcomcon trollers. com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.nethttp://www.irlp. net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!

___





--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!


Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread N0ATH
I would like to find some info on this 7330 - 
is there a web site with it or do you have a 
direct email addy Ken?
NØATH
Dave
- Original Message - 
From: Ken Arck 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question


Ok Jim.

I have to say I find that hard to believe as every single 210 that is purchased 
assembled  tested is tested on all 3 Ports for proper operations. If lands 
were missing, it would have never left here. Unless your friend purchased a kit 
in which case we have no control over its construction, so who knows what may 
have happened there.

But fair enough. Good luck with your endeavors and hope your project goes 
smoothly

Ken



At 03:05 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:



  One last comment Ken, and I won't pester you any more.  If a partial trade 
would be for an RC-210, I am afraid I am not interested.  I got the RC-110 that 
I have from a friend who was anxious to get a repeater on the air and rather 
than mess with the RC-110, which was not working, he bought an RC-210.  When he 
hooked the RC-210 up he found LANDS MISSING on one of the ports for the audio.  
It was not just a bad etch, the lands had never been there so far as he could 
determine.  That sure does not speak well of the Quality Assurance for the 
RC-210 product.

  I hate to bring all this up, but once bit - twice shy is my motto.

  73 - Jim  W5ZIT

  --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 3:11 PM


Let's take this offlist. Perhaps we can work something out that is workable 
for us both (for example, might you  be interested in us taking the 110 back in 
partial trade?)


Ken



At 01:04 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:


  Ken, my problem is that when a company sells me something that turns out 
to be totally useless and then fails to offer any solution or compensation, it 
is hard for me to have any confidence in their products.


  I attempted to join the RC-110 Yahoo group twice and both times I was 
refused entry by the moderator.  I thought there I might be able to find out 
what some other folks were doing to solve the problems.


  I understand that some technical problems are difficult if not impossible 
to fix, and that the microprocessor chosen for the RC-110 was a bad choice, but 
I don't understand the attitude of 'you bought it - now go live with it'.  That 
just does not instill any confidence in that companys products.


  Sorry - but that is my feeling.


  73 - Jim W5ZIT


  --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: 
From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] net 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] SCOM 7330 Question 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:29 AM

At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:

I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and 
charge current at a solar site and asked for information on 
controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by 
requesting a voice readback. I was immediately answered by Ken Arch 
(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210 
capabilitys. As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total 
lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.

---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not only 
readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And 
while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there 
is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which 
effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but 
from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and 
hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite 
good from our users as well. 
Ken 
 - - - - - - 
President and CTO - Arcom Communications 
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. 
http://www.arcomcon trollers. com/ 
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and 
we offer complete repeater packages! 
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 
http://www.irlp. net 
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!

  ___ 






--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net 
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!

 
No virus found in this incoming 

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread skipp025
As a Ham Radio Antenna it's not bad... but you should know it 
doesn't cover the entire 440 to 450 10 MHz. So if your box it 
near the band edge the antenna match and return loss are not 
great (actually can be pretty bad). 

Other guys have mentioned the commercial line-up/models and they 
are also good news with the matching price tag. 

cheers, 
s. 

 jimmyrtle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 
 machine. Anyone have any comments on using a Hustler G6. 
 The antenna will be exposed to normal weather conditions 
 for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)
 Jim 




Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question

2008-08-06 Thread scomind
Hi Dave,

The 7330 is an S-COM product. The website is www.scomcontrollers.com.

73,
Bob, WA9FBO


-Original Message-
From: N0ATH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question








I would like to find some info on this 7330 - 

is there a web site with it or do you have a 

direct email addy Ken?

NØATH

Dave

- Original Message - 
From: Ken Arck 

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question






Ok Jim.

I have to say I find that hard to believe as every single 210 that is purchased 
assembled  tested is tested on all 3 Ports for proper operations. If lands 
were missing, it would have never left here. Unless your friend purchased a kit 
in which case we have no control over its construction, so who knows what may 
have happened there.

But fair enough. Good luck with your endeavors and hope your project goes 
smoothly

Ken



At 03:05 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:



One last comment Ken, and I won't pester you any more.  If a partial trade 
would be for an RC-210, I am afraid I am not interested.  I got the RC-110 that 
I have from a friend who was anxious to get a repeater on the air and rather 
than mess with the RC-110, which was not working, he bought an RC-210.  When he 
hooked the RC-210 up he found LANDS MISSING on one of the por
ts for the audio.  It was not just a bad etch, the lands had never been there 
so far as he could determine.  That sure does not speak well of the Quality 
Assurance for the RC-210 product.

I hate to bring all this up, but once bit - twice shy is my motto.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]SCOM 7330 Question


To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com


Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 3:11 PM



Let's take this offlist. Perhaps we can work something out that is workable for 
us both (for example, might you  be interested in us taking the 110 back in 
partial trade?)



Ken




At 01:04 PM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:



Ken, my problem is that when a company sells me something that turns out to be 
totally useless and then fails to offer any solution or compensation, it is 
hard for me to have any confidence in their products.



I attempted to join the RC-110 Yahoo group twice and both times I was refused 
entry by the moderator.  I thought there I might be able to find out what some 
other folks were doing to solve the problems.



I understand that some technical problems are difficult if not impossible to 
fix, and that the microprocessor chosen for the RC-110 was a bad choice, but I 
don't understand the attitude of 'you bought it - now go live with it'.  That 
just does not instill any confidence in that companys products.



Sor
ry - but that is my feeling.



73 - Jim W5ZIT



--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: 

From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] net 

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] SCOM 7330 Question 

To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 

Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:29 AM


At 08:28 AM 8/6/2008, Jim Brown wrote:


I have a commercial application to monitor the battery status and 

charge current at a solar site and asked for information on 

controllers that would allow me to monitor these parameters by 

requesting a voice readback. I was immediately answered by Ken Arch 

(sp?) and another RC-210 owner with info on the RC-210 

capabilitys. As the proud owner of an Arcom RC-110 with it's total 

lack of support, I am a bit leary of going that road again.


---Hi Jim. I can assure you that support for the RC210 is not only 

readily available, most of our customers tell us it is exemplary. And 

while true that we no longer support the RC110 (what happened there 

is we are totally unable to obtain support for the CPU system which 

effectively killed the 110), RC210 is available not only from us but 

from the RC210 mail list in Yahoogroups. With literally hundreds and 

hundreds of RC210s in use around the entire world, support is quite 

good from our users as well. 

Ken 

 - - - - - - 

President and CTO - Arcom Communications 

Makers of repeater controllers and acces
sories. 

http://www.arcomcon trollers. com/ 

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and 

we offer complete repeater packages! 

AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 

http://www.irlp. net 

We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!







___ 








--

President and CTO - Arcom Communications

Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.

http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and

we offer complete repeater packages!

AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000

http://www.irlp.net 

We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread Joe Burkleo
Jim,
Not a lot of experience with the G-6 except for one site. It did work
OK, but we did replace it with a X-50NA this year, and it seemed to
gain a little more coverage. We have had excellent results here in the
NorthWest with the Diamond X-50NA antenna's. We have them on some
pretty rugged sites and they work very good on UHF. We will snub the
top of the antenna if they are on a site that gets a lot of wind or
ice. We have them on sites that are 4000' and higher and they survive
very well.

Like was said in an earlier post, lot of bang for your buck for a 100
dollar bill. HRO has been real good about having them in stock for us.

Good Luck with your project.

Joe - WA7JAW


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, jimmyrtle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. Anyone 
 have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be exposed to 
 normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)
 
 Jim





[Repeater-Builder] Source for Telewave Multicoupler FET's

2008-08-06 Thread Joe Burkleo
Anyone know the correct part number and a source for the FET's that
Telelwave uses in their TWR series of multicouplers for 150 and 450?

Thanks,
Joe - WA7JAW



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Source for Telewave Multicoupler FET's

2008-08-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:13 PM 8/6/2008, Joe Burkleo wrote:

Anyone know the correct part number and a source for the FET's that
Telelwave uses in their TWR series of multicouplers for 150 and 450?

---As a Telewave Dealer, I'll check for you tomorrow, Joe

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Source for Telewave Multicoupler FET's

2008-08-06 Thread Joe Burkleo
Ken,
Thanks a lot.
I will give you a call when I get a chance.

Joe - WA7JAW

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 04:13 PM 8/6/2008, Joe Burkleo wrote:
 
 Anyone know the correct part number and a source for the FET's that
 Telelwave uses in their TWR series of multicouplers for 150 and 450?
 
 ---As a Telewave Dealer, I'll check for you tomorrow, Joe
 
 Ken

--
 President and CTO - Arcom Communications
 Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
 http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
 Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
 we offer complete repeater packages!
 AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
 http://www.irlp.net
 We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440 MHz

2008-08-06 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jim,

About five years ago, I installed a Hustler G6-450-2 antenna at a commercial
site.  This is identical to the G6-440 antenna in construction, but is for
the 456-464 MHz band.  I had to replace it after only three years in service
because water had leaked into the base and caused significant corrosion.
Its RF performance was only so-so from day one.  After that experience, I
never again will experiment with cheap antennas.

You might think about using an offset aluminum dipole antenna, if your
repeater site is not in the center of your intended coverage area.  I've had
great results with Decibel Products DB404 and DB408 antennas.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jimmyrtle
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:19 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz

We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. Anyone 
have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be exposed to 
normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)

Jim



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread Michael Ryan
I have heard little about the SPIRT series by Hustler... what experience can
you relate about them?  Pretty rugged?  Good coverage?  -Mike

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of k6jsi
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:50 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G6 440mhz

 

Kick it up a notch, and move up to the Hustler Spirit. You'll be 
glad you did.

Shorty, K6JSI

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is 
a loser.
 
 Joe
 
 jimmyrtle wrote:
  We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 machine. 
Anyone 
  have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be 
exposed to 
  normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)
 
  Jim
 
 
 


 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread no6b
At 8/6/2008 15:02, you wrote:
  Joe,

Have used the G440 on my Repeater iin Ohio. Works very well, except when 
it ices up, then SWR  range goes Down.

Wesley AB8KD

Same experience here.  Not that much ice where my repeaters are, so that's 
never been a major problem for me.  Mine is probably 20 years old  still 
working fine.

Bob NO6B



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread k6jsi
I have had probably 15 or 20 of them in service for many years, and 
they work great.  Go here...   http://www.new-
tronics.com/main/html/base_spirit_model_430-450_mhz.html   for more 
info.

Like I said, try one, you'll be glad you did.

Shorty, K6JSI


 Michael Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have heard little about the SPIRT series by Hustler... what 
experience can
 you relate about them?  Pretty rugged?  Good coverage?  -Mike
 
K6JSI wrote  
 
 Kick it up a notch, and move up to the Hustler Spirit. You'll be 
 glad you did.
 
 Shorty, K6JSI
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , Joe k1ike_mail@ 
wrote:
 
  From the few reports I have heard, the G6 for the 440mhz band is 
 a loser.
  
  Joe
  
  jimmyrtle wrote:
   We are considering replacing a damaged antenna on a 440 
machine. 
 Anyone 
   have any comments on using a Hustler G6. The antenna will be 
 exposed to 
   normal weather conditions for the northeast.( wind ice...etc..)
  
   Jim




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Source for Telewave Multicoupler FET's

2008-08-06 Thread Paul Finch
I would be interested in that info also!  I have a VHF unit down right now.

Paul
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Burkleo
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:13 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Source for Telewave Multicoupler FET's

Anyone know the correct part number and a source for the FET's that
Telelwave uses in their TWR series of multicouplers for 150 and 450?

Thanks,
Joe - WA7JAW






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G6 440mhz

2008-08-06 Thread no6b
At 8/6/2008 15:40, you wrote:
As a Ham Radio Antenna it's not bad... but you should know it
doesn't cover the entire 440 to 450 10 MHz. So if your box it
near the band edge the antenna match and return loss are not
great (actually can be pretty bad).

I never had that problem with mine @ ~445.5  449.5 MHz.  Can't say I ever 
TXed into it around 440 MHz, but never had any RX problems with it at that 
frequency.

Bob NO6B



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Source for Telewave Multicoupler FET's

2008-08-06 Thread skipp025

I'm also a Telewave Dealer... 

The answer depends on the generation/age and specific 
model of your Telewave Multi-coupler. Some have/had bipolar 
transistors, some had special what I call quasi low noise 
FET type devices and I believe some of the newer Telewave 
Preamps should now be using Phempt devices. 

Your best bet would be to open it up and snap a picture to 
share with whom ever helps you find the replacement device. 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 

 Joe Burkleo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know the correct part number and a source for the FET's that
 Telelwave uses in their TWR series of multicouplers for 150 and 450?
 
 Thanks,
 Joe - WA7JAW





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Source for Telewave Multicoupler FET's

2008-08-06 Thread Joe Burkleo
Skipp and Ken,
Thanks for the info. 

The unit that is in need of a new device is a TWR8-150. Not sure of
the vintage. It is most likely at least 5 years old.

Thanks,
Joe

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm also a Telewave Dealer... 
 
 The answer depends on the generation/age and specific 
 model of your Telewave Multi-coupler. Some have/had bipolar 
 transistors, some had special what I call quasi low noise 
 FET type devices and I believe some of the newer Telewave 
 Preamps should now be using Phempt devices. 
 
 Your best bet would be to open it up and snap a picture to 
 share with whom ever helps you find the replacement device. 
 
 cheers, 
 skipp 
 
 skipp025 at yahoo.com 
 
  Joe Burkleo joeburkleo@ wrote:
 
  Anyone know the correct part number and a source for the FET's that
  Telelwave uses in their TWR series of multicouplers for 150 and 450?
  
  Thanks,
  Joe - WA7JAW
 





[Repeater-Builder] RITRON PATRIOT RRX450

2008-08-06 Thread Jack Hayes
Several months ago someone on this board contacted me
when I needed one of these changed to a different
frequency.

I've misplaced the email address and if that party sees
this, I'd appreciate contact so we can get in touch.  I
have another one needing programming.

Thanks  73



[Repeater-Builder] FluX is going to DEFCON 16.

2008-08-06 Thread DCFluX
I will be giving a talk at DEFCON 16 this weekend in Las Vegas at the
Rivera Hotel and Casino.

http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-16/dc-16-speakers.html#Krick


There are also other Amateur Radio topics on the agenda, as well as a
Wireless Villiage.

http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-16/dc-16-speakers.html#Jonm


Myself and others will be holding an VE Test Session on Sunday at Noon.

https://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?p=97672#post97672


Unofficial Simplex channel used last year was 146.58 MHz, it is
unclear if that will be used again.

The bad part is it is $120 at the door to get in. Pop in for a visit
if you are attending, and I'll see you on the bounce.