Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:10 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: I am in fact using a CSI TP-3200 shared repeater tone panel (single unit in the 19 form factor). I know of a number of less common CSI (Ventura, CA) tone panels... if you're panel wasn't the CSI Washington or Com-Spec TP-3200 then there's only one mfgr left using the CSI label. I'm at a bit of a loss on this one Given the NHRC-7 controller with it's PL encode and PL decode pins, what exactly would the interface be between the TP3200 and the NHRC-7? Ideas? I'm going to roll over and drop out of this thread. You need to talk directly with some of the GE Master II people who have done external controller connections. Don't forget to check the Repeater-Builder.com web page for related information. good luck, s.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Replacing all sorts of old appliances helps in this category... My wife finally twisted my arm into replacing her old washing machine and dryer as her Christmas present, and of course -- the first thing I'm down there doing is measuring their electrical load properties (just used a Kill-A-Watt... yeah, they're not 100% accurate, but for comparison purposes, it's fine). The difference between the old ones and the new was impressive. What made me go measure it was the Energy Star label that said the washer would only take an average of $13/year to operate, not including energy to heat the water, of course. Now we'll see if they last as long as the old ones... (probably not... sigh... but we'll see.) Oh, the clothes are cleaner too. A lot cleaner. She was right, like she usually is. :-) Nate WY0X -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor I will now reveal to the Repeater-Builder list members the sure-fire way to reduce electric bills: Get rid of that clunker refrigerator or freezer in the garage! Case in point: A co-worker remarked that his electric bill was about $120 per month, while mine was about $55. When I learned that he had an old (1955 vintage) Norge freezer in his garage, I lent him a portable kWh meter for a couple of weeks, to measure that freezer's power consumption. It turned out that the one Norge freezer was responsible for just over 1/3 of his power bill! On my urging, he turned it in to PGE for a rebate and bought a new Energy Star freezer. In less than four months, he saved enough on his electric bill to pay for the appliance. A word to the wise... 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
He only wants encode decode functions so it basicly hooks up just like a ts-32 or ts 64. It is explained in one of the ACC manuals about how to hook up a com-spec tp-3200 controller. I think it was in the ACC 850 manual you should be able to download a copy on RB. I think it was in the hardware reference manual. Comm Spec TP-38 Shared Repeater Tone Panel The TP-38 tone panel is a cost effective replacement for community repeater tone panels which are used to decode several different tones on a repeater system. Different groups of users sharing the repeater are each assigned their own tone frequency so that they don't need to listen to other users of the repeater who are not part of their group. In the application shown here, the TP-38 is used as a general purpose sub- audible tone decoder, connecting to the repeater receiver and providing a PL logic signal to the controller. The TP-38 decodes any or all of the 38 standard sub-audible tone frequencies. With its DTMF option, each tone may be enabled or disabled independently, remotely, using Touch-Tone commands (independent of the RC-850 command set). The unit can also cross code, or generate a different tone output in response to a particular received tone. Use of the TP-38 can provide the system owner the ultimate in flexibility in sub-audible tone operation. Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. The TP-38's PTT output becomes the PL signal to the RC-850 controller. tom -Original Message- From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 12, 2009 2:47 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Yup-that's what I said ;c} tsoli...@tir.com wrote: He only wants encode decode functions so it basicly hooks up just like a ts-32 or ts 64. It is explained in one of the ACC manuals about how to hook up a com-spec tp-3200 controller. I think it was in the ACC 850 manual you should be able to download a copy on RB. I think it was in the hardware reference manual. Comm Spec TP-38 Shared Repeater Tone Panel The TP-38 tone panel is a cost effective replacement for community repeater tone panels which are used to decode several different tones on a repeater system. Different groups of users sharing the repeater are each assigned their own tone frequency so that they don't need to listen to other users of the repeater who are not part of their group. In the application shown here, the TP-38 is used as a general purpose sub- audible tone decoder, connecting to the repeater receiver and providing a PL logic signal to the controller. The TP-38 decodes any or all of the 38 standard sub-audible tone frequencies. With its DTMF option, each tone may be enabled or disabled independently, remotely, using Touch-Tone commands (independent of the RC-850 command set). The unit can also cross code, or generate a different tone output in response to a particular received tone. Use of the TP-38 can provide the system owner the ultimate in flexibility in sub-audible tone operation. Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. The TP-38's PTT output becomes the PL signal to the RC-850 controller. tom -Original Message- From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 12, 2009 2:47 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
Of course, the copy of the manual on RB doesn't have images... Go figure LOL :) Thanks for the help! 73s, AJ, K6LOR On 2/12/09, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote: Yup-that's what I said ;c} tsoli...@tir.com wrote: He only wants encode decode functions so it basicly hooks up just like a ts-32 or ts 64. It is explained in one of the ACC manuals about how to hook up a com-spec tp-3200 controller. I think it was in the ACC 850 manual you should be able to download a copy on RB. I think it was in the hardware reference manual. Comm Spec TP-38 Shared Repeater Tone Panel The TP-38 tone panel is a cost effective replacement for community repeater tone panels which are used to decode several different tones on a repeater system. Different groups of users sharing the repeater are each assigned their own tone frequency so that they don't need to listen to other users of the repeater who are not part of their group. In the application shown here, the TP-38 is used as a general purpose sub- audible tone decoder, connecting to the repeater receiver and providing a PL logic signal to the controller. The TP-38 decodes any or all of the 38 standard sub-audible tone frequencies. With its DTMF option, each tone may be enabled or disabled independently, remotely, using Touch-Tone commands (independent of the RC-850 command set). The unit can also cross code, or generate a different tone output in response to a particular received tone. Use of the TP-38 can provide the system owner the ultimate in flexibility in sub-audible tone operation. Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. The TP-38's PTT output becomes the PL signal to the RC-850 controller. tom -Original Message- From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 12, 2009 2:47 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
tsoli...@tir.com wrote: Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. I'd like to see this diagram as well, since I had been thinking about this for quite some time... However, at least on my copy of the original message, there is no diagram below Can it be sent again, or be sent directly to me? Thanks in advance. Mike Pugh KA4MKG
[Repeater-Builder] Re: need manual
Hi everybody, Does anybody have a spare hard copy manual for a SPECTRA tabletop base with the telco remote option that they would sell? Thanks in advance, Mike
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: need manual
Forgot to add800mhz would be nice but any band is ok. Thanks, Mike -- - Original Message - From: Mike Dietrich To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:27 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: need manual Hi everybody, Does anybody have a spare hard copy manual for a SPECTRA tabletop base with the telco remote option that they would sell? Thanks in advance, Mike
[Repeater-Builder] Chart of Mastr II base Power supplys
There used to be a chart of the number combos for the different power supply's mastr II used . I cannot find it after a couple of searches can someone point me in the direction it might be or send me a copy. I got a couple of power supply's I would like to id and to keep for future reference. Thanks Joe Landers KE4EUE Director Of Communications Virginia Special Olympics Summer Games Owner 145.390 repeater IRLP nodes 4860 4407 Owner of the Chesterfield Hamradio Mobile Emergency Services
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood conversion
I have been running a pair of maxon. SM-4150's for years. They actually sound good and have been completely trouble free. I am gonna build a Mastr II rptr one of these days to replace them, but I am not in a huge hurry. I wonder if anyone has tried a pair of maxtracs? I just put a huge heavy goldish colored heatsink on the back of one with the intent of making it the TX. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Feb 11 18:32:05 2009 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood conversion Of course, if he is building a repeater for ham use, type acceptance doesn't matter (I whipped up a very nice temporary 440 repeater using 2 Bendix-King EMV4990A mobiles and an NHRC-2 controller. People said it sounded better than the Icom repeater it was filling in for...) George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios maire-rad...@verizon.net mailto:maire-radios%40verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood conversion I would go with a true repeater as the mobiles are not type accepted for the use and there duty cycle in not designed for a repeater use. John - Original Message - From: redneckfirefighter800 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood conversion Before I get in over my head with this project, I want to see if its A. practical B. feasable C. cost effective. I have on hand a tk-880 and a tk-805d power supply and antennas and required cable and software to program both. Is this possible or should I buy a ericson readymade repeater system? Thanks James Radio Officer REACT 6101
[Repeater-Builder] For Sale: Telewave dual Isolator TX-RX duplexer
Hi All, I have decided to sell the rest of the equipment that was on my repeater that isn't getting built. I have for sale the following things: Telewave T1050B Dual isolator tuned to 444.575 (the paint is a little roughed up on the loads but works 100%) Pictures: http://www.wiztech.biz/~dwisdom/stuff_for_sale/circulator/ Price: $150 OBO + Shipping TX-RX 28-70-02 Vari-Notch Duplexer 450-470mhz Tuned to 444.575 TX/449.575 RX Pictures: http://www.wiztech.biz/~dwisdom/stuff_for_sale/duplexer/ Price $350 OBO + Shipping Both items are in good condition were 100% functioning when we were burning in the repeater decided to shelve the project. If you don't like my prices feel free to make an offer. If interested email me off list at: do...@_engineeringinc_._com (remove _'s) Thanks, --Don
[Repeater-Builder] Re: [GE Mastr II] For Sale: Telewave dual Isolator TX-RX duplexer
By the way the duplexer is BpBr --Don On 2/12/09 8:06 PM, Don E. Wisdom d...@engineeringinc.com wrote: Hi All, I have decided to sell the rest of the equipment that was on my repeater that isn't getting built. I have for sale the following things: Telewave T1050B Dual isolator tuned to 444.575 (the paint is a little roughed up on the loads but works 100%) Pictures: http://www.wiztech.biz/~dwisdom/stuff_for_sale/circulator/ Price: $150 OBO + Shipping TX-RX 28-70-02 Vari-Notch Duplexer 450-470mhz Tuned to 444.575 TX/449.575 RX Pictures: http://www.wiztech.biz/~dwisdom/stuff_for_sale/duplexer/ Price $350 OBO + Shipping Both items are in good condition were 100% functioning when we were burning in the repeater decided to shelve the project. If you don't like my prices feel free to make an offer. If interested email me off list at: do...@_engineeringinc_._com (remove _'s) Thanks, --Don Supporting websites: http://www.mastr2.com http://www.nhrc.net Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?
The RB copy is what we got from Com-Spec. If anybody wants to scan their paper manual and email us the more complete file(s) we will replace the existing copy. Mike WA6ILQ At 01:03 PM 02/12/09, you wrote: Of course, the copy of the manual on RB doesn't have images... Go figure LOL :) Thanks for the help! 73s, AJ, K6LOR On 2/12/09, wd8chl mailto:wd8chl%40gmail.comwd8...@gmail.com wrote: Yup-that's what I said ;c} mailto:tsoliver%40tir.comtsoli...@tir.com wrote: He only wants encode decode functions so it basicly hooks up just like a ts-32 or ts 64. It is explained in one of the ACC manuals about how to hook up a com-spec tp-3200 controller. I think it was in the ACC 850 manual you should be able to download a copy on RB. I think it was in the hardware reference manual. Comm Spec TP-38 Shared Repeater Tone Panel The TP-38 tone panel is a cost effective replacement for community repeater tone panels which are used to decode several different tones on a repeater system. Different groups of users sharing the repeater are each assigned their own tone frequency so that they don't need to listen to other users of the repeater who are not part of their group. In the application shown here, the TP-38 is used as a general purpose sub- audible tone decoder, connecting to the repeater receiver and providing a PL logic signal to the controller. The TP-38 decodes any or all of the 38 standard sub-audible tone frequencies. With its DTMF option, each tone may be enabled or disabled independently, remotely, using Touch-Tone commands (independent of the RC-850 command set). The unit can also cross code, or generate a different tone output in response to a particular received tone. Use of the TP-38 can provide the system owner the ultimate in flexibility in sub-audible tone operation. Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. The TP-38's PTT output becomes the PL signal to the RC-850 controller. tom -Original Message- From: wd8chl mailto:wd8chl%40gmail.comwd8...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 12, 2009 2:47 PM To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller? All you have to do is, like you thought, program the 3200 for no hang time and blank the ID's. The rx in to the 3200 comes from the discriminator, like you probably have it now. A COS line from the rx goes to the COS in on the NHRC. The PTT out from the 3200 goes to the CTCSS in on the NHRC. Also tx audio out from the 3200 goes to rx audio in to the NHRC. Encode CTCSS from the 3200 goes straight to the CTCSS tone input on the exciter. About as simple as it gets. The 3200 is a normal tone panel, and the NHRC is a straight-forward ham controller, so this will apply to almost every combination of tone panel/ham controller out there. AJ wrote: Any other CSI/NHRC experts out there have an idea on how to interface the CSI TP-3200 for encode/decode function to the NHRC-7 Controller? 73s, AJ, K6LOR
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Chart of Mastr II base Power supplys
Joe, I don't recall a chart of GE power supplies, but the list would be small. Simply go to this site and search for supply to find all of them. www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-master-list.html 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Landers Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:57 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Chart of Mastr II base Power supplys There used to be a chart of the number combos for the different power supplies mastr II used. I cannot find it after a couple of searches. Can someone point me in the direction it might be or send me a copy? I got a couple of power supplies I would like to id and to keep for future reference. Thanks Joe Landers KE4EUE Director Of Communications Virginia Special Olympics Summer Games Owner 145.390 repeater IRLP nodes 4860 4407 Owner of the Chesterfield Hamradio Mobile Emergency Services
