[Repeater-Builder] UHF multicoupler

2009-09-04 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Our club is in need of a six to eight port UHF RX multicoupler. Please
contact me direct if you have one available. Thanks,

Kevin, K9HX



[Repeater-Builder] Doug Hall 4RV Voter

2008-12-20 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I have available a DHE 4RV 4 receiver voter system. Please note that 
this is an
older generation than the 4RV/2 which is currently being produced. This system
consists of a 4RV voter, a VCM, and power supply in a 19 inch rack 
mount. It was
removed from a site that was decommissioned and was not hooked up, so I do not
know the operational status. If interested, please e-mail me direct, 
off list. I would
prefer a trade, but all offers considered. Thanks and 73,

Kevin, K9HX



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF MICOR Unified Chassis

2008-07-27 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
At 01:03 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:
If you're not going to use your repeater as a community repeater, then you
don't need the community repeater supplement.


The only problem is that the community repeater station has a different
backplane than a regular Micor station does. If he in fact has the community
repeater backplane, then the CR supplement is essential. 73,

Kevin, K9HX





Re: [Repeater-Builder] INFO Wanted

2008-04-03 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
This is why it is always best to order a complete element, rather than
to order just the crystal and install it in an element yourself. You will
need to make trial and error changes in the capacitor values in your
element until you can get it on freq. Make small incremental changes.
Good luck, and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 07:44 PM 4/3/2008, you wrote:

Other than to send the TX crystal back to ICM, is there any other way to
move the frequency DOWN some 7.5KHZ.! The ICM cyrstal was ordered
correctly (catalog#167380 for a MICOR TX FC: 146.91 FX:12242500). I
have it installed in the 1019B channel element and have tried it in
several other 1019B elements, without any change - still nearly 7.5KHz.
high after adjusting the cap. TNX Dennis - W4DG



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 question

2006-08-13 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX


I have done several of these without too much trouble. On the batlabs
site there
is a hack for the R-100 RSS to allow out of band freq's to be entered.
The units I 
have done have not required any tuning to operate in the ham band, but
others
report that they have had to.
The TX and RX chassis inside the repeater each use a DB-15 connector to

connect to the outside world. All the signals you will need to interface
an external 
controller are available on these connectors. Just disconnect the
existing connectors 
and supply and wire your own. Also make returning to the
stock configuration 
possible at some time in the future. However, the RX audio out of the
receiver 
module is not muted by the squelch circuit on this connector. You will
need to 
count on your controller to provide this function.
Keep the PA on this machine cool. Probably a good idea to keep a muffin
fan blowing
across it. Good luck with your project and 73,
Kevin, K9HX
At 09:23 AM 8/13/2006, you wrote:
Hi folks..
I have a quick question (I hope)..
Can a Motorola R-100 repeater (Mod#Q2903A) be tuned to the ham band
without
much hassle? The repeater is currently on Tx 451.3750, Rx 456.3750.
Is
this idea worth the effort?
Thanks in advance..
73
Mike
K5JMP
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 8560AS Tubes

2006-08-10 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX


I have not used the Taylor 8560's, but im general I would not recommend
them. 
We once tried some of their 813's in one of the old AM broadcast xmitters
I used 
to maintain, and had open filaments within 90 days. I have used the
Svetlana
8560's with good success, but of course YMMV. 73,
Kevin, K9HX
At 12:27 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote:
Our group needs a pair of
8560A's for our Micor 2 mtr repeater. Has anyone
used Taylor tubes? Are they reliable, any quality problems? RF parts has

them
for a lower cost. Does anyone have a pair of NOS tubes they would like

to sell?
Thanks, Joe
 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Moseley Isocoupler

2006-07-19 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX


If it is still available, I'll take it. Just let me know.
Thanks,
Kevin, K9HX
At 08:25 PM 7/19/2006, you wrote:
Subject: Moseley
Isocoupler 
I have a Moseley ISOCOUPLER... Model ICU-3D ... Frequency
145-180mhz ... Type N connectors. About 3 diameter... 8
long. It's sealed so I can't get into it. 

Me thinks it's for coupling a VHF radio system onto a hot AM
BC tower someone can perhaps confirm. Can't find any info on the
net.

I have no use for this thing... maybe someone on here
does... it's free for the cost of the shipping. 

Otherwise into the dumpster it goes...

Richard 
VA7AA
 

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[Repeater-Builder] Mastr III HB station

2006-05-07 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Our club has located a surplus Mastr III base station,
and I am looking for info on interfacing an external
controller to it. TIA and 73,

Kevin, K9HX





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr III HB station

2006-05-07 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX




Thanks Steve, but that is not an option for us. It does not offer enough
functionality in our situation. We have a S-Com 7K that will be connected
to it. Thanks again,
Kevin, K9HX
At 09:21 PM 5/7/2006, you wrote:
I would very strongly (almost to
caps) recommend you use the built in controller inherent in the M3.
You get hang time, time out timer, dtmf on/off, and morse id just by
programming. We have had one in service , W5LM for 6 or 7 years
with one PA driver module failure. Best luck, Steve NU5D



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Our club has located a surplus Mastr III base station,

and I am looking for info on interfacing an external 

controller to it. TIA and 73,

Kevin, K9HX




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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 375 Watt TLD5082 question?

2006-02-23 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I have a TLD5081 amp that is not currently in service. Unfortunately, it is
not for sale, but I could take some digital photos of the internals and get
them to you. Just let me know what areas you would be interested in. It
is currently at a remote site, so it may take a few days to get them to you.
Let me know if are interested, and 73.

Kevin, K9HX






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GR500 vs. GR300

2006-02-19 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Randy,

Yor are correct. The GR300 and GR500 came out about the same time, long
before the R1225 transceiver. We have many of the GR500's configured with
two M-120 radios. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 10:33 PM 2/18/2006, you wrote:
I thought the GR500 could also be configured with two GM300 or M120 mobiles?

When the R1225 module came out, a conversion kit was available to
install it in the GR500 housing instead of two mobiles?

I could be wrong...

Randy


Eric Lemmon wrote:

 Rod,
 
 The GR300 is a completely different animal.  The GR300 comprises two GM300
 mobile radios, a RICK, and a power supply in a desktop cabinet.  The GR500
 comprises an R1225 full-duplex radio (which has a built-in controller) and a
 power supply in a wall-mounted cabinet.
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
 
 
 
 






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] maxtrac help

2006-02-04 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
A M-120 or GM-300 would be a better choice for your TX radio. Maxtrac
radios do not have any PA thermal feedback to the contol board, where the
newer radios do. The Maxtrac will have to be fooled into thinking it is a
136-162 MHz radio before the power control circuit will work below 146 MHz.
This requires blanking the logic board and re-initializing it as a 
low-split radio.

Another other option is to use a LM-317 and build an adjustable regulator to
drive the power control line going to the PA.

One other nasty habit the Maxtrac radios have is that when continously
keyed for more than about 9 minutes, the controller will run the TX power
down, eventually cutting the PA completely off. This feature is built into
the radio firmware to protect the PA because there is no monitoring of
the PA deck temprature. Using the external regulator gets around this
problem also.

Hope this info helps. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 08:55 AM 2/4/2006, you wrote:
I just bought 2 maxtracs with the intent of making a repeater.
Model#D33MJA77A3CK. The radios work ok but they are 146-174Split. The
problem I am having is that I have no control of the RF output. I dinked
around inside of the RSS and I can set the power within the radios
bandsplit but once I do the shift button trick and take it outside the
spilt, it just goes into overdrive.. This is supposed to be a 25watt
radio but outside the limit it ramps up to 35w.

Is there a trick to reign this thing in?

Or am I just going to have to look for a different radio that goes where
I want it to?
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mystery 2M cans

2006-01-24 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX




These definetly are from a Sinclair hybird-ring duplexer. The coaxial
style notch tuning cap attached to the tee was salvaged from the hybird
ring phasing harness. I believe these are single mode cavities. I have
two of them tuned as notches to keep a local paging TX from interfering
with a 2-meter repeater. I can come up with the Sinclair model number of
the duplxer tomorrow if that would help. 73,
Kevin, K9HX
At 01:54 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote:

Fellows, 

I bought these cans at Dayton last year. I have
no information on them. The interconnecting harness is butchered pretty
badly, so I'm not sure of the correct lengths. I'm hoping that someone
can recognize these and has some documentation and / or a set that we can
use as a pattern.

I think these are Sinclair, but I'm not sure.
Kevin and I have put them on the tracking generator and have been able to
get LPHR response out of them, but not HPLR. I think this is due to not
having the correct cable lengths.

Thanks in advance for any info and to you
dial-up subscribers, sorry for sending pictures you may not need.

Scott Zimmerman
Repeater-Builder (the company)

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
612 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] SpectraTac receiver on 12v

2006-01-16 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
The 12V input is two screw terminals, but I believe that you will need to 
remove the
PS to get at them. They are located on the circuit board. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 05:28 AM 1/16/2006, you wrote:
Thanks, I'm not too concerned about the filtering as I will be running it 
off a
battery for the test.  Do you recall whether the 12V input is fairly well
marked? I don't remember seeing it when I looked for something like that
although I was only looking at the backplane.

Steve

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Berlen, K9HX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] SpectraTac receiver on 12v


 I believe that all of the power supplies for these receivers have a 12V
  input on
  them. This input is intended to be supplied from a battery, and there 
 is very
  poor filtering on it. Make sure if you use this input that it is supplied
  from a
  well filtered supply. I once made the mistake of running one of these from
  the
  high current output of a Mastr II station PS, and had bad hum and noise 
 until
  I
  figured out what was happening. 73,
 
  Kevin, K9HX
 
  At 12:21 AM 1/16/2006, you wrote:
 Is it possible to operate SpectraTac receivers on 12v easily? I don't 
 have a
 manual for the unit so I'm unsure what the specific connections are 
 for.  The
 two VHF units I have exibit a slight 60Hz hum in the audio. I'd like to try
 running them on 12v to isolate the built in supply as the problem.
 
 Thanks
 Steve






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] SpectraTac receiver on 12v

2006-01-15 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I believe that all of the power supplies for these receivers have a 12V 
input on
them. This input is intended to be supplied from a battery, and there is very
poor filtering on it. Make sure if you use this input that it is supplied 
from a
well filtered supply. I once made the mistake of running one of these from the
high current output of a Mastr II station PS, and had bad hum and noise until I
figured out what was happening. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 12:21 AM 1/16/2006, you wrote:
Is it possible to operate SpectraTac receivers on 12v easily? I don't have a
manual for the unit so I'm unsure what the specific connections are for.  The
two VHF units I have exibit a slight 60Hz hum in the audio. I'd like to try
running them on 12v to isolate the built in supply as the problem.

Thanks
Steve






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Setup

2005-12-24 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Connect Systems has a version of their Flex Controller that can be 
configured
as a Zetron model 19 emulator. I have not used one, but it looks based on 
the info
on their web site. I have talked to the factory as well and it would seem 
to be a
worthy replacement for the Zetron model 19. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 11:09 AM 12/24/2005, you wrote:
Lee,

The Zetron 19B Simplexor is used in many rural areas for exactly that
purpose.  It was offered in several versions to meet specific requirements.
One version, which was intended for volunteer fire departments, would accept
a page and then repeat it several times (which were programmable) so that
the volunteer responders had several opportunities to receive and understand
the message.  The unit I have just repeats the message once.

The 19B Simplexor has excellent audio quality, and it interfaces easily to
almost any make and model of commercial mobile radio.  I was very surprised
to learn that Zetron stopped making it.  Perhaps, if there is sufficient
demand, they might put it back into production.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

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Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Setup

Many FD's use a simplex repeater to extend coverage for dispatch and they
work quite well in hilly Erie county.  Another post a while back mentioned
the brand name of the apparent best one to use, maybe they will chime in.
They work by decoding a tone sequence from dispatch, recording the next
transmission and then repeat it back...73,Lee,N3APP

Jason Crambo wrote:
  Hello all and happy holidays.
  I am with the Jefferson Twp Ambulance out of Lackawanna County,
  Pennsylvania. We are located in a rural area and are looking for an
  alternative to providing all of our members with mobile radios. An
  idea I had was to create a repeater on our private frequency that we
  use on each call. I do not know the first thing about repeaters and I
  was wondering if someone can help me out on if this is something we
  can do ourselves and if so what do we need, the process, cost we are
  looking at, etc. etc. Any help would be appreciated. Happy Holidays.







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can you change Motorola R100 from DPL to PL?

2005-12-23 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
It has been a while, but you must change the processors in the TX
and RX strips, as well as some other components. It is not too bad
of a job, but I don't know if the parts are still available or not. Both
PL and DPL units can run carrier squelch. It might be simpler to program
your repeater for this mode and then install aftermarket tone or digital
squelch boards.

Kevin

At 10:54 PM 12/22/2005, you wrote:
I was curious as to if the units are hardwired in or is it some card
that you can change.

Thanks

Dakota Summerhawk






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have a Motorola 1200 Manual?

2005-12-16 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I have a manual, but it is not one I can part with. If you need specific
info I could scan/copy the section and get it to you. Copying the entire
manual would be cost prohibitive. 73,

Kevin K9HX

At 08:47 PM 12/16/2005, you wrote:
I'm looking for a manual for my Motorola 1200AX service monitor.  I
bought it from a fellow ham a few months ago, and the manual sat
underwater when his home was tragically flooded as a result of Katrina
(and poorly designed levees).  He said it swole to phone book size and
the pages stuck together, so needless to say, I need to find another
copy.  I've looked on the web, but so far the only one I've found cost
more than I paid for the service monitor.

Any help will be appreciated.

73 de K5IQ
Bob








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxar 80

2005-11-22 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Hi Nate,

You have what was called the 2 Watt LPI (low power-industrial) version
of the UHF Maxar 80. The model number would indicate that it is a 2-
freq radio with tone PL.

The cover can be removed by disconnecting the mic connector on the
side of the radio and removing the knobs (they pull off). Then you will
need to pull down slightly on the bottom of the plastic case at the rear
of the radio to disengage the two retainer tabs, and slide the chassis
out of the case.

These would probably make decent link TX radios. I don't like the Maxar
series squelch circuit, so I would not use them as a repeater receiver.
Good luck and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 12:21 AM 11/23/2005, you wrote:
Hi all,

Not repeater related directly, but have run across a few Maxar 80's in
storage and wondering what they are.  Know zilch about Moto model
numbers, and figured this group would have someone that knows.

Model: D04TSA3300BK

The box has a label that they're UHF 4W.

Also if anyone remembers (yeah, I know they're THAT old)... how to get
the darn cover off them, any hints there would be appreciated also.

Nate WY0X





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II question

2005-11-17 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Thanks for your thoughts, John. I have not pursued intermod as
a potential cause of this problem because there is not any other
audio present on the signal head 30KHz away from our carrier
frequency, and the offending signal is always present when our
system is keyed up. There are not isolators on either transmitter.
I did not mention that the two sites are also about 20 miles apart.
Thanks again,

Kevin, K9HX


At 11:18 PM 11/17/2005, you wrote:
Kevin,

This sounds like a classic intermod problem. Does your
repeater and the new one each have a dual isolator on
its transmitter?
Yes, you will need a dual isolator on your repeater
transmitter as well as the new one 30 khz away.


John Lloyd, K7JL
Intermountain Intertie
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:54:42 -0500
From: Kevin Berlen, K9HX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mastr II question

One of the systems I take care of uses a Mastr II in
station
configruation as it's transmitter. Recently, a
repeater went on the air that is 30 KHz above our
operating frequency. If you are within about five
miles of our site and are monitoring on the new
machines frequency, you can hear our repeater. It is
not distorted, and it does not have any other
modulation on it. I have
heard this signal on a number of differnet rigs, and
so have several other users, so I don't think it is a
problem with overload of my receiver or other problems
in my equipment.

I am not using the station receiver in the repeater,
but have an ICOM in it, as the only TX ICOM I had was
an EC version. I am using the RX ICOM just to provide
the conpensation signal to the TX element.

I had a similar problem about a year ago with a spur
60 KHz above our carrier, but it cleared up after I
swapped the exciter and PA boards out.

I have not yet been to the site to check out anything
yet, but just wondered if this is a problem anyone
else has seen. Thanks, and 73,

Kevin, K9HX



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tuning a MSF5000 UHF repeater

2005-11-13 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX




Here is something else to try. This assumes that the PA pre-filter has
been tuned to your frequency. With the TX filter bypassed, but everything
else hooked up, try turning the power set control down a little. It may
be that you are simply driving the PA too hard and it is shutting down.
There are two different versions of the high power PA, One with a single
circulator, and one with a triple circulator. I don't recall the exact
figures, but the ouput of the PA has to be de-rated depending
on which circulator arrangement you have. With the triple circulator, the
power out of the PA into the TX filter should be in the vicinity of 70-80
watts or so. The manual will have this info in it.
As stated by others the TX filter is a real pain to tune, but once set up
they work well. The pre-filter is a little easier. Hope this helps, and
good luck! 73,
Kevin, K9HX

At 05:50 PM 11/12/2005, you wrote:

Bob M.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



I get the impression that if you HAD a manual, you

wouldn't be asking all these questions.



Yes I have the manual, however some of it appears to greek to me, but
as I ask questions, it makes more sense. 


Anyway, tuning the internal filter/duplexer is a royal

P.I.T.A. The first thing I do is remove the outer skin

from the cabinet. This gets you easy access to the

connectors on the F/D. The procedure requires a sig

gen, an RF voltmeter, and the tuning cable you used

with the receiver, however it can be done with a

spectrum analyzer that has a tracking generator.

You'll also need an accurate, low power, 50 ohm dummy

load.

I do have a service monitor here to help in the aide of this
project.





Rather than go through the entire procedure and bore

everyone, I'll send you, or post, the couple of pages

from my manual. The procedure must be followed

exactly. You can't go back and re-adjust the coils.

They get done in a particular sequence and if you fool

with them again, you won't get the performance that's

needed.

The VCO drives the intermediate power amp (IPA). This

sends 3-9 watts out to the three-coil section of the

F/D, and this feeds the input of the power amp (PA).

The output of the PA goes into the four-coil section

of the F/D, and this feeds the TEE cable that joins

the receiver to the antenna connector. These cables

are cut for a specific Tx/Rx relationship, and your

new freqs must match that. For example, the normal

commercial repeater transmits on, say, 460 MHz, and

receives on 465 MHz. The fact that it receives higher

than it transmits can't be changed when you use the

station in the amateur band. Your receiver must still

be 5 MHz higher than the transmitter's output. They do

make cables for the other direction, but they're

extremely rare. There are color bands on the TEE cable

that identify the freq range and direction. Hopefully

you have the proper cable. If not, either you'll have

to try to make one, buy one (they're probably NLA from

Motorola), choose another repeater frequency where the

offset direction is appropriate, or not use the

station at all.



I am receiving higher at 447.000 and transmitting at 442.000


The controller samples the IPA and PA output levels

and if they aren't within the range they think is

normal, you'll get a PA failure error. If the F/D

isn't tuned correctly, you'll get too much loss in the

system and the sensing circuits will tell you

something's wrong. The digital stations will

extinguish an LED.



If I disconnect the pa, and the F/D, would this not eliminate the
problem between the IPA and the F/D? 

Bob M.

==

--- Mathew Quaife wrote:

 Thanks Bob, I did finally get that one, got them

 locked, and the receiver is nearly tuned, however no

 repeat as of yet. I went from a 3 beep now to a 2

 beep. Looking for that.

 

 Mathew

 

 

 Bob M. wrote:

 The VCO coils are only present on the UHF stations,

 and as I recall, that's what you have.

 

 Pull the RF tray out and swing the control tray up,

 then turn the VCO Lock knobs to the TRANSIT

 positions.

 This will push them down into their cavities in the

 RF

 tray casting. On each side, lower rear, you will see

 two or three holes in a triangular pattern. The

 upper

 two are often used to hold cable ties, but the lower

 one lines up with the VCO coil's slug. Insert your

 5mm

 Allen wrench in there - the slugs are exactly the

 same

 as the ones in the front of the RF tray and adjust

 the

 same. With the meter plugged in, adjust for a value

 of

 38 +/- 2 uA on the appropriate metering pin (I think

 it's pin 5 but don't hold me to that). 

 

 Perform the adjustment on the highest frequency on

 both Transmit and Receive. This is the first step in

 any UHF MSF5000 alignment.

 

 Bob M.

 ==

 --- Mathew Quaife wrote:

 

  Ok, I think I have missed it, or misplaced it. 

  Which ones are the VCO adjustment pots. All the

  manual tells me is to adjust the VCO pots, but I

  have no diagram showing which ones they 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tuning a MSF5000 UHF repeater

2005-11-13 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX




The built in duplex filtering option is simply a very high Q pass filter
system. Everything on the TX side should be tuned to your TX frequency.
The RX side of the filter is actually the receiver front end. which
should be tuned to your RX frequency. Since you have a single frequency
application, the tune freq will be the same as your operating frequency.
The tune up freq applies only to stations that use multi freq
TX/RX.
A RF millivolter is vastly different from your RS VOM. You could possibly
sub a spectrum analyzer for the RF millivoltmeter if you have access to
one. 73,
Kevin, K9HX
At 08:13 AM 11/13/2005, you wrote:
Sitting here looking at the tune
up procedure for the filter, it tells me to insert a rf millivoltmeter
probe into J18 and insert a 225 mV signal into the the output of the post
filter. I did this, and get nothing on the meter at all. Now
I'm not sure if there is a difference between my RS Volt-Ohm meter and an
RF millivoltmeter. I do have the test meter for the
MSF5000. If you could help me to understand, is the post
filter tuning the pass frequency of 447.000 which is the receive of the
system, and the prefilter for the 442.000 transmit. Or is the unit
simply filtering all of 447.000 to handle the isolation of the transmit
frequency. It also says to refer to the Station Parameter Booklet
to for the appropriate tuneup frequency, I'm assuming that would be the
input of the repeater at 447.000?
Kevin Berlen, K9HX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Here is something else to try. This assumes that the PA pre-filter
has been tuned to your frequency. With the TX filter bypassed, but
everything else hooked up, try turning the power set control down a
little. It may be that you are simply driving the PA too hard and it is
shutting down. There are two different versions of the high power PA, One
with a single circulator, and one with a triple circulator. I don't
recall the exact figures, but the ouput of the PA has to be
de-rated depending on which circulator arrangement you have.
With the triple circulator, the power out of the PA into the TX filter
should be in the vicinity of 70-80 watts or so. The manual will have this
info in it.

As stated by others the TX filter is a real pain to tune, but once
set up they work well. The pre-filter is a little easier. Hope this
helps, and good luck! 73,

Kevin, K9HX


At 05:50 PM 11/12/2005, you wrote:


Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I get the impression that if you HAD a manual, you
wouldn't be asking all these questions.



 
Yes I have the manual, however some of it appears to greek to me, but
as I ask questions, it makes more sense. 

Anyway, tuning the internal filter/duplexer is a royal
P.I.T.A. The first thing I do is remove the outer skin
from the cabinet. This gets you easy access to the
connectors on the F/D. The procedure requires a sig
gen, an RF voltmeter, and the tuning cable you used
with the receiver, however it can be done with a
spectrum analyzer that has a tracking generator.
You'll also need an accurate, low power, 50 ohm dummy
load.

I do have a service monitor here to help in the aide of this
project.



 


 
Rather than go through the entire procedure and bore
everyone, I'll send you, or post, the couple of pages
from my manual. The procedure must be followed
exactly. You can't go back and re-adjust the coils.
They get done in a particular sequence and if you fool
with them again, you won't get the performance that's
needed.

The VCO drives the intermediate power amp (IPA). This
sends 3-9 watts out to the three-coil section of the
F/D, and this feeds the input of the power amp (PA).
The output of the PA goes into the four-coil section
of the F/D, and this feeds the TEE cable that joins
the receiver to the antenna connector. These cables
are cut for a specific Tx/Rx relationship, and your
new freqs must match that. For example, the normal
commercial repeater transmits on, say, 460 MHz, and
receives on 465 MHz. The fact that it receives higher
than it transmits can't be changed when you use the
station in the amateur band. Your receiver must still
be 5 MHz higher than the transmitter's output. They do
make cables for the other direction, but they're
extremely rare. There are color bands on the TEE cable
that identify the freq range and direction. Hopefully
you have the proper cable. If not, either you'll have
to try to make one, buy one (they're probably NLA from
Motorola), choose another repeater frequency where the
offset direction is appropriate, or not use the
station at all.



 
I am receiving higher at 447.000 and transmitting at 442.000

The controller samples the IPA and PA output levels
and if they aren't within the range they think is
normal, you'll get a PA failure error. If the F/D
isn't tuned correctly, you'll get too much loss in the
system and the sensing circuits will tell you
something's wrong. The digital stations will
extinguish an LED.



 
If I disconnect the pa, and the F/D, would this not eliminate the
problem

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF High Band Repeater Amplifier

2005-11-11 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
The 140-150MHz 110W continous duty amp is a TLD1692. They surface on ebay 
perodically. Good
luck in your hunt, and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 07:11 AM 11/11/2005, you wrote:
Kevin,

That looks like the one I have, but based on Eric's post, I would be
better off getting a 100 watt unit, so we don't have to convert the
TLD1703 to work on 144 MHz.

At 09:46 PM 11/10/2005, you wrote:
 You might want to check this out:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Micor-VHF-RF-power-amplifier-TLD1703-AV_W0QQ 
 itemZ5828330160QQcategoryZ48700QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
 Kevin, K9HX
 
 At 08:53 PM 11/10/2005, you wrote:
  Eric,
  
  We retrieved the amplifier today.  It is a TLD1703.  I don't have a
  manual which is part of the problem.  I can't tell if it has been
  modified to work at 144 MHz or not.
  
  73, Chas
  
  At 11:40 PM 11/9/2005, Eric Lemmon wrote:
   The model number C53RCB-3105AT is for a complete repeater station,
   not just the
   power amplifier.  If all you need is the 60 watt continuous duty PA,
   then look for
   a TLD1703 for the 150.8-162 MHz band, or a TLD1704 for the 162-174
   MHz band.  Note
   that the 60 watt PA was not made in a version for the 132-150.8 MHz 
 band,
   according to my manual.
   
   73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
   
   Charles Greene wrote:
   
 GM,

 Would anyone have by chance a Motorola Micor VHF High Band repeater
 final amplifier, part number C53RCB-3105AT, 60-watts, PL with unified
 chassis? If so, please e-mail me off list.  A C43, C63 or C73
would also work.

 Tnx,  W1CG, Chas
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF High Band Repeater Amplifier

2005-11-10 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
You might want to check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Micor-VHF-RF-power-amplifier-TLD1703-AV_W0QQitemZ5828330160QQcategoryZ48700QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Kevin, K9HX

At 08:53 PM 11/10/2005, you wrote:
Eric,

We retrieved the amplifier today.  It is a TLD1703.  I don't have a
manual which is part of the problem.  I can't tell if it has been
modified to work at 144 MHz or not.

73, Chas

At 11:40 PM 11/9/2005, Eric Lemmon wrote:
 The model number C53RCB-3105AT is for a complete repeater station,
 not just the
 power amplifier.  If all you need is the 60 watt continuous duty PA,
 then look for
 a TLD1703 for the 150.8-162 MHz band, or a TLD1704 for the 162-174
 MHz band.  Note
 that the 60 watt PA was not made in a version for the 132-150.8 MHz band,
 according to my manual.
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
 Charles Greene wrote:
 
   GM,
  
   Would anyone have by chance a Motorola Micor VHF High Band repeater
   final amplifier, part number C53RCB-3105AT, 60-watts, PL with unified
   chassis? If so, please e-mail me off list.  A C43, C63 or C73
  would also work.
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale

2005-08-22 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I am sure you are not asking sixty five thousand dollars for your meter. 
Just trying
to have a little fun with your typo. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 09:27 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote:
OK. You certainly have a right to an opinion. I received a price range from
Kevin and it seemed fair to me. Thanks for your interest though.

Jim

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Berlen, K9HX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 21:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale


  $65,000??
  seems a BIT high to me!!
 
  :^) 73,
 
  Kevin, K9HX
 
  At 08:29 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote:
   From an estate: Motorola SINAD meter. Model R1013A. Perfect condition
  and I'm told never used. With manual and original box which is falling
  apart. Great for tuning up those receivers. $65.000 and I'll ship to
  lower 48 states. Tnx Kevin for the permission.
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] How about dual DB-224's ??

2005-08-15 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
We have this exact situation on one of the systems I take care of. It has
worked great! We use a community antenna for our recieve (top mounted-
no pattern issues) and use two DB-224E's phased with a home brew
phasing harness as our TX antenna. One is mounted on the east side
of the tower, and one is mounted on the west side. The elements are
arranged so that on the east antenna all four are facing east, with the
west antenna set up with all four elements facing west. Good luck, and I
hope this solves your coverage problem. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 06:58 PM 8/15/2005, you wrote:
I happen to have two DB-224's that are identical, same phasing harness,
connector, etc.  What if one was to put elements all in one line, and
at the exact same height, mount one antenna on the north side of the
tower (mounted directly to tower leg with elements pointed straight
ahead) and mount the other directly on south side of the tower in the
same manner, and feed with power divider or a tee connector with odd
1/4 length of 35 ohm for matching purposes?  If the antennas are fed
exactly in phase, that is.  I understand about receiving signals 180
degrees out of phase in the coverage area, but wouldn't this
configuration be similar to a pair of elements on a DB-420?  Would this
configuration serve as more omni-directional?


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] motorola moxys

2005-07-17 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
The stock squelch circuit in a Moxy is terrible for repeater use. These
units would not be a good choice for repeater service. There are many
other surplus comercial rigs out there that would be a much better
choice. Good luck with you project,

Kevin, K9HX

At 01:16 PM 7/16/2005, you wrote:
To the group,

This is my first post but have been a member for a while.

I managed to get a hold of couple of motorola moxys uhf I think.

Is it possiable to convert them to 440 and using both set them up as
a repeater. I know I would need some type of controller, this my first
venture into repeater setup so my question to the group.

Is this a worthwhile endeavor or will I be spinning my wheels?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra-Tac Voter

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I am contemplating putting a Motorola Spectra-Tac voting system
on one of the systems I am responsible for. Has anyone else
installed one of these in it's native form (constant 2175Hz on
the RF links)? I know there is the requirement to ID each link
every 10 minutes. Or has someone modified the SQM's to
respond to a COR signal rather than the absence of the 2175
Hz tone? I am just in the very early stages at this point, but
thought I would do some fact finding work. Thanks for any
input and 73,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cushamn Service Monitors: Who Repairs Them

2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
We used Triton Electronics several years ago. I am not sure if they are 
still in
business or not.

Kevin, K9HX


At 07:55 AM 6/5/2005, you wrote:
Who repairs Cushman service monitor's?  It seems my monitor has
decided to take a dump.  Someone once mentioned a place in Chicago, IL
but not sure the name or who it was.  Any suggestions.  Thanks.

Mathew








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
-Good is not always cheep.

Very, very true. That is why I always use ICM. I have a 100% satisfaction
rating on every order I have ever placed with them. Recently, they even
offered us a great quantity discount on some Minitor II crystals for our
2-meter repeater freq. In qty of 50 or more $3 each. You cannot beat
their product or service. 73,

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[Repeater-Builder] Spectra-Tac RX cable

2005-05-01 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I am looking for a TKN6759A cable for a Spectra-Tac receiver. This
cable allows a receiver service module to take meter readings from
the receiver RF-IF board installed in the chassis. I anyone has a
spare or knows of a source please contact me direct. TIA and 73,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need a duplexer

2005-04-12 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX

A Motorola T-1504 series is an excellent choice. Should be available used
for $125-$150. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 12:10 PM 4/12/2005, you wrote:

Do you have any recommendations on 70cm duplexers capable of 100W?

Thanks


Kevin Custer wrote:
  Dr. Ron Johnson wrote:
 
  We just got approved for a repeater on 2 meters.  I need a duplexer.
  Anybody got one laying around?  Also,  what do you all think about the
  mobile duplexers and low power duplexers from Sinclair on ebay?  I
  used to use a Wacom years ago.  Gave the repeater to the club and
  moved to 450 but now am going to add this new 2 meter machine for our
  little county which currently has no 2 meter service.  Just wondered
  what ya'll think
 
 
  In the used field, a Wacom WP-641 or better yet the WP-642 are great.
  Expect to pay nearly (over?) $1000 for a 642.
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] PC repeater controller

2005-03-21 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX

You might take a look at this:

http://www.synergenics.com/sc/

I am not a user, but it looks interesting. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 12:46 AM 3/22/2005, you wrote:


I am looking for a software based repeater controller. One that I
dont need a board to install but want to use either the lpt port or
serial port to colect the logic from the repeater.

I am an SCOM user but want to set up a link in the home for playing
with.

Any ideas?

email direct if you would to

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] rebuilding R100 carcass - what is typically wrong?

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX

I have one of these on the air in amateur service. Generally speaking
they are dependable units. The most common problem seems to be
the PA. The collector tab of the final transistor will unsolder itself from
the circuit board. Usually all that is required is to clean everything up,
re-solder the connection using silver solder and replace the two chip
caps. The unit I currently have in service was retired from commercial
service after a lightning strike about 15 years ago. We repaired it,
installed it in a weather-proof box, and it spent the next 14 years
installed 900 feet in the air on a tower. We have since moved it to
another site.

The Mototorla programming software can be problematic, but that is the
only route to go if you are thinking of putting this collection of parts back
together. The software is out there, and the programming interface is not
difficult to build. You will need to go to the batlabs website and look up
the info on hacking the software to allow you to progam the unit to the
ham band. Contrary to popular belief, I successfully run the software on
a 650MHz Celeron laptop without any issues.

Good luck and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 02:58 PM 2/13/2005, you wrote:




I got several R100 radios as carcasses.  Several of each module.
Obviously 1 or more got hit by lightning with ps burns and PA in bad
shape.  I think I have enough to make a good system.  I do have a
manual.

Does anyone have advice on what is typically wrong with these?

I've thought of dumping the entire controller card and programming the
pll with a homebrew pic.  Its not that hard and I hear nothing good
about the old Moto sw.  Are the controller boards worth saving?

At the other end of the scale, I'm open to selling the whole pile for
parts and going another route.

Thanks for any free advice.

Barry
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB224

2005-01-26 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX

Could you fine people PLEASE take this dispute/debate off list? TIA and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 05:14 PM 1/26/2005, you wrote:

Russ,

Why not let them discuss the subject alone? We have no first hand
knowledge of the situation in question (I know I don't, and I seriously
doubt you do either), so our input is not helpful. This is not the time
to promote either party, take sides publicly, or to draw conclusions and
make judgments.  It is also not the time to jump on the bandwagon for
either party. They are big boys and can speak for themselves.

I will say that I don't know what this has to do with a DB224...

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] More power, Scotty!

2005-01-24 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX

You can keep your loads seperated and just tie the ground side (negative 
terminals)
of both power supplies together. This should take care of the problem. 
Connecting
the power supplies in parallel to increase the current capacity can be 
troublesome
at best. Good luck and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 06:15 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote:

Sounds like a ground issue.  Your Astron 35 amp power supply is actually 26
amps normal, 35 amps surge.  How much power are you running?  Some of the
other techs can correct me if I am wrong, but to tie them together you have
to use some diodes to prevent one from feeding back into the other.  Then
positive to positive and negative to negative.  It's been several years
since I have tied two together, but it seems that is the way we done it.

Mathew


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] More power, Scotty!




I searched through 10,000 posts and did not see this as a topic, so
perhaps it is safe to ask?

While building out my repeater empire, I discovered that an Astron RM-
35 does not like providing 30 amps continuous :) So, I thought I
would run the latest repeater on a separate power supply. However,
the controller, an Arcom RC-210, would not recognize COS and PTT
states of the repeater on a separate power supply. What is the
correct procedure to tie these two power supplies together, to
either: A. Provide more than 30 amps continuous together, or B. have
the ground of the second power supply recognized by the controller,
which is running on the first power supply?

The repeaters are 1100 feet up a tower, in a very cramped space, so I
thought I would ask here before experimenting. Thank you!











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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PA question

2005-01-21 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX






Kevin,
As others have said, the model# is key to knowing what to expect. My
personal experience is that if you are in the 146 or 147 MHz range you
may be OK, but if you are in the 145MHz range, you will probably need to
convert your amp to the low range. My TLD-1693 amp would only make about
20 watts and had higher than normal current draw when attempting to run
it at 145.230. The TLD-1692 amps are out there, but are somewhat hard to
find. Good luck and 73,
Kevin, K9HX
At 10:38 AM 1/20/2005, you wrote:
I have a 110 watt
PA from a micor base, that was on the low end of the 150mhz range. Am I
correct in assuming this should tune up fine on the 2 meter band? Also, I
believe these require about 400mw drive but I want to confirm it. I think
I have the schematics for this someplace but have to dig them up if
needed. TIA to all.

Kevin
K2KMB






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Base Station Battery Backup Circuit

2005-01-11 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX

Jim,

I have an original manual that shows the mod for the TPN-1106A
to add the battery charger/revert circuit board. I will try to scan it
and get it to you one night this week. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 10:53 AM 1/10/2005, you wrote:


Happy New Year
I am looking for a print or detailed description of how Motorola
hooked their Battery Backup Circuit into the Micor Base/Repeater
Power Supply. I found a schematic on repeater-builder 1106.jpg, but I
didn't get a good print out on my end. I remember seeing a portion of
a service manual that had the circuit, but as luck would have it my
manual does not have the circuit. Any help would be appreciated as
always.

73 JIM KA2AJH Wellsville, New York











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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MDM RADIO - Grand moving sale

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX

Not working for me either73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 11:44 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote:

Still doesnt work from my connection...all my other sites are
working,strange,very strange indeed!

Jim McLaughlin wrote:

 No problems here at all.
 
 Jim WA9FPT
 
 
 
 
 
 
 






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controllers

2004-12-27 Thread Kevin Berlen

I have read several replies to this post, and have seen one of the heavy 
hitters
when it comes to repeater controllers go unmentioned. S-Com industries, IMHO,
builds one of the best products that money can buy. We have had multiple 5K 
and
7K controllers on the air for 10+ years without a single failure or 
software glitch - ever.
If you put the new Vyex DAB with the 7K, you have a controller that is 
truly hard
to beat. I have no connection to S-Com, other than being a very satisified
customer. 73,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Requiring CTCSS

2004-12-04 Thread Kevin Berlen

On one of the systems that I take care of, we fought interference from a 
paging transmitter for about 12 months before making the choice to go to PL 
access full time. In our case, the signal was weak enough that a mobile on 
the fringe of our coverage area could cover it, but strong enough to hit 
the receiver and bring the repeater up. We tried different receivers, 
additional cavities, etc. until the only alternative was to take the system 
down or go PL. In some (perhaps most) situations, despite expending a great 
deal of time, energy, and expense, the only workable solution to solve an 
interference issue is to go to tone access.

Incidentally,a properly implemented PL tone decoder will detect subaudible 
tone before the squelch circuit in your receiver will unsquelch. This 
should have the effect of slightly increasing your talk-in range compared 
to a non-pl repeater. 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 08:10 AM 12/3/2004 -0500, you wrote:
I think that CTCSS is used too often on input as a crutch for solving 
(covering up) interference problems. I'll bet a properly-operating 
carrier-squelch repeater will work better than one with a tone, simply 
because it is open to interference that must be FIXED, not just covered up 
with tone. I learned this the hard way. I have a 6 meter machine at 51.7 
right next to a TV channel 2 and a 70 MHz pager link transmitter, and many 
other high-power devices. It was toned input at first, (to shut it up) and 
operated very poorly until I spent time and money on filtering and a good 
receiver. I am proud to say now that it is open carrier squelch with no 
problems. I do have a tone on the output, where the user can implement it 
or not for receiving trouble. I do believe that outputs should have tone, 
just out of courtesy, for user's sake.

P.S. Put down your SERA book, you won't find it! :)

John -KI4AWK

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Requiring CTCSS

Living 1/2 mile from 'RF hell on top of Lookout Mtn. requires that a 
repeater must have tone before I can listen to the channel without putting 
up with constant intermod. We have several untoned repeaters here in the 
Denver area that can't understand why someone would want tone on the 
output without a toned input even after explanation of the problem. For 
this reason, I would like to see a tone required on all repeater outputs 
(maybe 100hz) even if the inputs are untoned for those of us with intermod 
problems. All 4 of my personal repeaters are toned.

I've often thought the 100hz tone would be a good idea for use on some 
simplex channels were the ex-CBer contingent have taken over. I would 
still like to monitor some channels (.52 in this case) if there was some 
way to filter out the drivel.

Just my .08 cents worth (inflation)

Art - KC7GF
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[Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 analog station programming

2004-10-15 Thread Kevin Berlen

We have had a MSF-5000 station donated to replace of of our
UHF repeaters. This sation is one of the older analog units that
require a PROM to be programmed to change the frequency.
Does anyone on the list know of a source to get this done?
Also, what options should be set to use the unit with an external
controller? Thanks and 73,

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[Repeater-Builder] Rugged 2-meter beam

2004-10-12 Thread Kevin Berlen

We are looking for a rugged 2-meter beam suitable for installation at the 
300 foot level
on a 500 foot broadcast tower. This will be uswed to link a 440MHz sytem to 
one on
2-meters about 80 miles away. Looking for suggestions for something more 
stout than
the standard Cushcraft/Maxrad offerings. Any and all suggestions welocme. 
Thanks
and 73,

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: [Repeaters] MSF-5000 programming

2004-09-29 Thread Kevin Berlen
Thanks to alll who replied to this question. I programmed
the station last night and tuned it up. It was equipped with
the internal duplexer option. The transmit filter proved
somewhat difficult to tune, even following the alignment
procedure in the book and using the alignment probe.
Thanks again and 73,

Kevin, K9HX






 
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[Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 programming

2004-09-26 Thread Kevin Berlen
I have the opprutunity to help a group with a UHF MSF-5000 project.
I have not yet seen the station, but if it turns out to be a digital capable
station that can be programmed via RSS, is there any slight of hand
necessary to get down into the 440 ham band? I have the necessary
cables and RSS to program this version of the station, but have never
attempted to move one down to 440MHz. TIA and 73,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 PA out - again...

2004-09-08 Thread Kevin Berlen
There were two different PA decks on the MSR2000. One that was rated for
continous duty and one that was not. The non-continous duty UHF PA is a
real problem. It is not at all unusual to have cronic problems with it.

The DC distribution is done on a circuit board that runs under the PA modules.
The DC is broght up to the modules by way of jumpers made from square wire.
The connection between the DC distribution board and these squre wires is very
problematic. The only way to fix it is to completely disassemble to PA deck,
desolder every connection, clean everything, and then resolder all of the
connections using silver solder. This is a very involved job, and will 
result in a
PA deck that will work for a few years before it is necessary to repeat the 
repair
again.

Another problem area is the interconnection straps between the various stages
in the PA. Each strap should have a small hump in it. In other words, it 
should
not be a flat strap between the substrates. The hump will allow for small
amounts of movement between the substrates as the PA deck heats and cools.
If you have the flat straps, the solder connections will eventually fail 
and the
connections will be intermittent.

The receiver in your machine is basically a Mitrek. One thing to look for 
that can
cause intermittent problems are the ground connections on the coils in the 
front
end casting. The joints can fracture and cause very intermittent RX sensitivity
problems. Don't over look the two injection filter resonators that are part 
of this
assembly. Get a friend and a couple LARGE soldering guns and resolder all of
these connections. It will take a large amount of heat, but make sure that the
solder flows properly and that the entire joint is fluid before you remove 
the heat.
Following this repair, be prepared to touch up the aligmnment on the front end.

I hope this is useful information for you. Good luck, and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 09:00 AM 9/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
I have an MSR2000 on 444.550 for the local ham club / county EMA.  The PA (a
110W model) is out again.  We just had this repaired by the local Motorola
shop, with whom we've had very good results from in the past.  We're running
the PA at about 80W, so I'm thinking we didn't burn it up, but I can't
help but wonder if there is anything inherently wrong with the MSR2000 PA
for UHF.  This is the third time the PA has failed in this particular
machine in about a 2-year time frame.  (This was a repeater originally tuned
for 460 MHZ, and brought down to the ham band.)  This particular machine has
been a pain in the @$% - RX sensitivity isn't what it should be, PA keeps
going out, etc.  Seems like we're up at the site every couple of months do
make some sort of repair on it.
I'm wondering if we should just cut our losses and get another machine, or
should I keep plugging away at this repeater?  If we do decide to chuck it,
how much can I expect to spend to get a comparable replacement - we use this
machine during severe weather season for forwarding reports to the NWS, and
it's open other times.  We want to add remote RX sites (you've probably seen
my inquiries about those in the past) but I don't want to start adding
remote RX sites until I get the main repeater working reliably.
I'm open to suggestions...
Thanks,
Mark - N9WYS







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[Repeater-Builder] 2 UHF receivers, one antenna

2004-09-06 Thread Kevin Berlen
Over the weekend, I added a second UHF control receiver at one of the sites 
I take care of. The control RX antenna is up about 150ft. Previous to 
adding the new RX, I could easily access the first RX about 25 miles out. 
Since adding the second RX, I can only access either one about 12-15 miles 
out. I simply put a tee connector on the polyphaser and connected both 
lines to it. Not the best engineering practice, but I have gotten away with 
it before. Does anyone have an idea about how to properly match two 
receivers to one antenna? The receivers are located in different racks in 
different parts of the building. I know Motorola and GE had passive devices 
to do this job. Is there a way to build something homebrew to do this 
job? TIA, and 73,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] SS-32/5K/Micor

2004-08-30 Thread Kevin Berlen



Thanks for your thoughts Bob. I have managed to minimize the problem by
doing as you suggested - I put a .1 uF cap and a 27K resistor is series
with the tone output of the SS-32. The frequency still drifts when the
tone is keyed and unkeyed, but now only about 50-60 Hz. I think that this
is acceptable. 73,
Kevin, K9HX
At 10:16 PM 8/29/2004 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Kevin,


I am installing a Comm Spec SS-32 encoder in a Micor
repeater. I am using a logic output from an S-Com 5K
controller to key the ground connection to the encoder
whenever the RX COR is active. I need to do this to
be able to link into another system.

My problem is when ever the encoder is keyed or
unkeyed, it causes the TX to drift off frequency about
+/- 900Hz. It apears that this is being casued by a cap
charging/discharging. I have tried several different
tone insertion points, always with the same result.


I haven't seen many responses, so I'll toss out some suggestions.

There is probably a DC bias on the Micor side of the audio connection.
The SS-32 has a 1 uF polarized cap in series with the tone output with
its + side toward the SS-32. When the SS-32 has its ground
connection floating, the cap probably sees 12V on the SS-32 side and some
other (lower) voltage on the Micor side. When the SS-32 is operating, the
voltage on the SS-32 side of the cap may be lower than the Micor side. If
the cap operates reversed biased, it can leak or short, causing wierd
problems. You could try a 1 uF nonpolarized cap in series with the tone
lead to see if that's the case.

If that wasn't the problem, and if you have plenty of CTCSS level coming
from the SS-32 and can afford to lose some, use a smaller nonpolarized
cap (say, 0.1 uF) in series. The lower value will attenuate the level,
but may also reduce the drift effect you're seeing.

73,
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for amplifier suggestions

2004-08-27 Thread Kevin Berlen
I have had good luck with both Henrey and TPL in repeater service. Good
luck and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 05:45 PM 8/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:

I'm putting in a new repeater to replace an old one, but the new one is 50
watts output instead of 130. I'm looking for suggestions for a Power
Amplifier. My preference based on everyone I've talked to so far is the TE
Systems 1406, but I'd like to know what people on this list think.

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[Repeater-Builder] SS-32/5K/Micor

2004-08-24 Thread Kevin Berlen
I am installing a Comm Spec SS-32 encoder in a Micor
repeater. I am using a logic output from an S-Com 5K
controller to key the ground connection to the encoder
whenever the RX COR is active. I need to do this to
be able to link into another system.

My problem is when ever the encoder is keyed or
unkeyed, it causes the TX to drift off frequency about
+/- 900Hz. It apears that this is being casued by a cap
charging/discharging. I have tried several different
tone insertion points, always with the same result.

Has anyone else had this problem? Is there an
alternate way to hook up the PL encoder? TIA
and 73,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor RX

2004-08-11 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Thanks to all that replied to my post regarding this problem. This is a 
back burner
project currently, so I have not had the chance to implement any of the
suggestions yet, but will post the results when I do. Thanks and 73,

Kevin, K9HX



At 10:20 PM 8/5/2004, you wrote:
John Sichert wrote:

 Kevin,
 
 Increasing the cap gives a little more injection, it does make a difference.
 

I'm sure it does.  The Micor UHF always seemed to be LO starved in my
opinion.

 I never saw a response if the receiver is working now.
 

Neither did I, but I also gave him the other mods that we use so I'm not
sure what (if anything) fixed his problem.

Thanks John...
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[Repeater-Builder] ARR P150VD pre-amp

2004-08-11 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I am in the final stages of putting together a 2-meter Micor repeater.
As a general rule, I am against receiver pre-amps on any repeater
installation. However, while rummaging thru my junkbox this evening,
I came across one of these preamps and started wondering. Has
anyone had any experience with one of these on a 2-meter Micor?
It appears that it possibly could be retuned to 2-meters. Just curious
if anyone has had any experience with one of these. Thanks and 73,

Kevin, K9HX





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola TPN-1106A

2004-08-02 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I am in need of the schematic for the board in a Motorola TPN-1106A power 
supply
that is added on the emergency power option models. I want to use the 
signal that
turns the audio tone on when the base is on battery, and run that to a 
logic input
on my controller. I would like to be able to add a tail message when we are on
emergency power. I have the diagram from the Repeater Builder site downloaded,
but I dont find this optional board on schematic. I would like an original 
copy of
the manual with this option if anyone has a spare. Other wise a scanned copy
sent via e-mail or a photo copy sent via USPS would work. Please let me know
if you can help and what the costs are. TIA and 73,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor low band base

2004-07-21 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Have had two friends that have done the conversions. They were unable
to find any short cuts. I think Mastr II radios may be a little less 
complicated
to move up. Good luck and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 11:26 AM 7/20/2004, you wrote:
I have a Micor low-band base, currently on 47Mhz. Has anyone been
able to tune these to 52Mhz without having to change all the
components listed on the rbtip web site? I want to use this as a 6
meter remote base on one of my systems and I was curious if I really
need to change everything out. TIA to all.

Kevin
K2KMB






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[Repeater-Builder] S-com controller

2004-07-19 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I am looking for a used S-com 5K or 6K controller. I have several items for 
trade.
Please contact me direct if you are interested. Thanks and 73,

Kevin, K9HX





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Circuit board 2-mtr duplexer

2004-05-16 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Several years ago, QST published an article on building a compact six 
cavity 2-meter
bp-br duplexer out of circuit board material. This was in the April 1979 
issue. I have
one of the un-assembled Circuit Board Specialists kits complete with a copy 
of the QST
article that I would like to sell. I was lucky enough to pick up one of 
these units this
weekend at Dayton already assembled.

I will entertain offers for this kit for the next few days. If their is not 
any interest, I will
take it to you know where. Please contact me direct, off list if 
interested. Thanks
and 73,

Kevin, K9HX





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] SCOM 5K For Sale or Trade - PRICE LOWERED!

2004-04-04 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I would offer $110.00 for one of the units plus $15 shipping. Please let me 
know
if this is acceptable. I also have several items that I would trade for the 
unit, but
no duplexer. What would you be interested in? Thanks and 73,

Kevin, K9HX

At 12:55 PM 4/3/2004, you wrote:
LOWERED PRICE. I had no idea what these are really worth now a days,
so I started them out at $200, but that seems to have been too high.
So the Price has been lowered!

SCOM 5K V2.0
No display board or accessories
Mounted in a 7 x 6.5 x 1.5 aluminum case that has the display LED
holes already punched.
Comes with user/programming manual with schematics

Asking $165 each -- $300 for the pair ** SHIPPED in the US **
Elsewhere, contact me for a shipping rate. Offers and trades may be
considered!

One was used lightly and the other was a spair and never used. Both
are in very nice physical condition.

Trade items...

I'm looking for a VHF duplexer that can handle 100W @ .600 split

I accept Paypal and I accept US Postal Money Orders.

Thanks

Dave Schmidt
N9NLU
Kewaskum, WI






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[Repeater-Builder] SIncalir Q-201G question

2004-02-01 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I know this may be a topic that has been discussed before,
but I need to know the value of the piston trimmers used to
tune the notch on the high pass cavities used in this duplexer.
Also, if anyone has a source for these caps and dust covers
it would be appreciated. I know that DB uses a similar cap
on their duplexers, and they are under the assumption that
they are worth their weight in gold. Thanks and 73,

Kevin, K9HX





 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Icom ID

2004-02-01 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Could you post a picture?

Kevin, K9HX

At 02:49 PM 2/1/2004, you wrote:
Hi All,

I just found some icoms last night in the bottom of misc. parts box that I
cannot for my life remember what they are from.  KXN1039B, I am thinking
the old MX becuase ther are some tranmitter offset icoms with them but they
seem to big for that. Anyone remember them?

Thanks,

Tracy





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[Repeater-Builder] Shack clean-up time

2004-01-24 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I have several base stations that I need to move as storage space is becoming
a problem. I would entertain cash offers, but would prefer a trade. Shipping
will be a problem, so I would be willing to drive up to 150 miles one-way to
deliver this equipment and complete a deal. Items are:

GE Mastr II 330 watt Low Band base currently on 47MHz. This unit has what
is known as the IDA Control Shelf. It has two additional LB Mastr II
monitor receivers, also on 47 MHz. Condition is about a 7 out of 10. I have
a NOS 4CX250 final amp tube I will throw in with this station. I have a 
complete
manual for this rig.

GE Mastr IIe 100 watt Low-Band base also on 47 MHz. Operating condition of
base sation is unknown. Also equipped with two aux Mastr II monitor receivers
on 47 MHz and a DB rx multicoupler. This station also comes with a manual.

Motorola Micor UHF 75 watt factory community repeater. This repeater is in
the 450-470 MHz range. This unit comes with a T-1504 duplexer. Someone
has removed the duplexer form its normal rack panel and drilled large holes
in the cabinet top. The duplexer is installed with the tuning shafts sticking
down into the cabinet and the cans upright on top of cabinet. I have another
empty cabinet the correct size I would throw in with this station. I may be
able to come up with a manual for this one.

Items that I am looking for include a Motorola Micor TLD1692 140-150MHz
continous duty PA, a Hickok 600A tube tester, and a mobile HF transciever
with six meters similar to an Alinco DX-70TH or an Icom IC-706MKIIG.

Pictures are available upon request. If anyone is interested, please contact
me directly. I live in southwest Indiana. Thanks for your interest and 73,

Kevin, K9HX




 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOTOROLA R100 UHF REPEATER retuned to 70cm Ham Band?

2004-01-17 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
Check out batlabs.com. You will need a hacked copy of the RSS to program it,
and the ones that I have done required no re-tuning. Good luck and 73,

Kevin, K9HX



At 08:01 PM 1/16/2004, you wrote:
Can the Motorola R100 UHF Repeater be retuned to the 70cm Ham Band?

Thanks,

Bob







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[Repeater-Builder] LB Mastr III on six meters

2004-01-10 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
I have the chance to pick up a LB Mastr III base currently on 49Mhz.
Does anyone know if it will go six meters? Thanks,

Kevin, K9HX




 

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[Repeater-Builder] Help converting TLD1693

2003-11-09 Thread Kevin Berlen
I am still looking for a Micor TLD1692 amp. Looking for one blown up,
not working, or one in working condition. The parts to convert my 1693
to the low split are no longer available from Motorola. The same board
was used in the intermittent duty stations and mobiles, and with slight
modification in the Mocom-70 mobile as well. The parts I need to convert
my amp are: 1 ea 24-84302C01, 1 ea 24-84302C02, and 2 ea
24-83547G10. If anyone can help with project or these parts please let me
know. Thanks again,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Amp TLE1713A

2003-11-09 Thread Kevin Berlen
What is the out put of the Micor TLE1713A ??


The amp is rated for 75 watts continous duty, once it passes thru the stations
built in single stage circulator. They can be difficult and expensive to 
repair though,
so most people run them at 50 to 60 watts output. On the bench, I have seen 
well
over 100 watts out of one of these amps with the control voltage lead 
connected
back to the A+ supply - something that should not be done other than for short
periods during bench testing.

Kevin, K9HX




 

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