[Repeater-Builder] Re: LOOKING FOR 250W OR MORE S.S.LOW BAND AMP

[Mike Perryman]

I am located in northern Virginia and have a GE 1/4kW unit available.. but it's 
not SS. It's on 6m and uses a 4CX250B.. I also have about a half dozen good 
tubes for it.. some new.  It is complete with docs.. and shouldn't take much to 
get it going again.

If interested email me k5jmp "at" nastyz28.com

thanks,
Mike

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "radiotwo1955"  
wrote:
>
> LOOKING FOR A HIGH POWER LOW BAND AMP WORKING OR NOT ANY SPLIT. REASONABLE 
> PLEASE  THANKS BOB 607 436 2287
>

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Home-made ressonant cavities?

[Mike Perryman]

I have done the heliax duplexer as well...  info is here


mike

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "John Transue" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Alexandre,
> 
>   I made some cavities for a six-meter duplexer. The cavities are 
notch
> filters. There is a web site on the subject. Just do a Google 
search on
> "six meter duplexer".
> 
> John
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexandre 
Souza
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:11 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Home-made ressonant cavities?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Anyone into homemade ressonant cavities? These are hellish 
expensive in 
> Brazil, I'd like to give a try on building one. Anyone experienced? 
Tips
> you 
> want to share?
> 
> Thanks
> Alexandre Souza
> PU1BZZ 
> 
>  
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: hi pot tester needed...

[Mike Perryman]

I have to go take a look at a hi-power AM array.  Guy thinks he may 
have a flaky vac in the system  problem is transmitter won't stay 
on hi long enough to find it.
Anyway, have looked at a bunch of 'em.  Just sticker shock I 
guess...  lol.
Thought maybe someone here might have a viable candidate.

mike
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Checking the field windings on your 60mW power generator?  
> 
> I'll check one of mine to see if it will go high enough 
> but otherwise I use equipment brands like Hippotronics for the 
> task. 
> 
> s. 
> 
> 
> > "Mike Perryman"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, I have need to either purchase or rent a hi pot tester 
that 
> > will do 60-90kV both AC and DC tests...  
> > can anyone help?  
> > If so, please email me direct off-list  mperryman "at" 
cavellmertz.com
> > 
> > thanks,
> > Mike
> > K5JMP
> >
>

[Repeater-Builder] hi pot tester needed...

[Mike Perryman]

Hi all, I have need to either purchase or rent a hi pot tester that 
will do 60-90kV both AC and DC tests...  
can anyone help?  
If so, please email me direct off-list  mperryman "at" cavellmertz.com

thanks,
Mike
K5JMP

[Repeater-Builder] Re: National Radio Quiet Zone

[Mike Perryman]

I have known Wes for about 15 yrs.  He's a good dude!!
  Mike Perryman 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
7839 Ashton Avenue
  Manassas, Virginia
  20109-2883  
Download Outlook
  Contact Info  
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  703.392.9559 Facsimile
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 www.CavellMertz.com
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna building

[Mike Perryman]

Thanks for your service Ben!!  I played that game during the Gulf War.  You
have my respect and gratitude sir ;-)
 73 
Mike Perryman 
www.k5jmp.us 

  -Original Message-
  From: Naber, Benjamin L. SPC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Naber, Benjamin L. SPC
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:40 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna building


  Active until August 2009. I can't wait for that day!

  What do you do John?

  

  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com on behalf of JOHN MACKEY
  Sent: Mon 10-Sep-07 09:41
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna building

  Benjamin-
  Are you active duty or reserve?

  -- Original Message --
  Received: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 09:14:01 PM CDT
  From: "Naber, Benjamin L. SPC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:benjamin%40kb9lfz.com> >
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:AR902Mhz%40yahoogroups.com> >,
mailto:repeater-builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna building

  > It's been quite some time since I last built an antenna, and been a very
  long time since I sat down patiently putting something together.
  > 
  > As I sit here in my chair, in the middle of the freakin' desert in Iraq,
I
  came to notice that while building this wi-fi antenna for our network, I'm
  actually taking my time building it. I've never really taken my time
before,
  it was always a rush to put an antenna together and get the thing in the
air,
  hoping it will work the first time. I'm finding that I actually like
taking my
  time building something, and enjoying the process, and it is quite
relaxing,
  believe it or not. Where-as before I was in a hurry for no reason and
getting
  all mad at the thing didn't work or when something didn't fit right. 
  > 
  > I'm only 25, but I rather enjoy this hobby of 13 years and now I think I
  finally realized what it was to take time to build something, put some
quality
  effort it, and enjoy the fruits of my labor. Sure it may take a little
longer,
  or does it because now it'll most likely work the first time?
  > 
  > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
  > 
  > 



   
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RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexers

[Mike Perryman]

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
Ron Wright
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:48 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexers


  Gary,

  Coax also has the problem of a upper freq limit due to it's outer shield 
becomes large enough to act as wave guide. One will see upper freq specs will 
be lower the larger cable.

  73, ron, n9ee/r

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] looking for parts

[Mike Perryman]

Best of luck to ya  I have been searching for an affordable 6m duplexer
for about 5yrs now...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ke7hgc
  Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:30 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] looking for parts


  Good evening all, I'm looking for a set of 4 cavities for 6 meters for
  a project anyone got a set in their way? thanks,Larry/ke7hgc



  

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Acronyms-a little OT

[Mike Perryman]

I always thought it had to do with "Casey at bat"...  as there was "no joy" in 
Mudville when the Mighty Casey struck out.
 
Mike Perryman 
www.k5jmp.us 
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
Ron Wright
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:06 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Acronyms-a little OT


  hi all,

  Not sure where it orginated, but "no joy" is often used to say what we did 
did not work, hi. It is used basically to say the results we were looking for 
did not.

  Now "no Joy" might mean we did not find Joy where we thought she would be.

  73, ron, n9ee/r

  >From: WD7F - John in Tucson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >Date: 2007/07/08 Sun PM 10:57:47 CDT
  >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Acronyms-a little OT

  > 
  >It's a pilot's term, I think.  Missed the target, no target found, missed 
the interception point, etc.de WD7FJohn in Tucson - Original Message - 
From: George HenryTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:10 PMSubject: 
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Acronyms-a little OT
  >I always figured it was coined by guys who struck out on liberty (shore 
leave).  ;-)   - Original Message - From: Richard To: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: 
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Acronyms-a little OT 
  > I'm probably wrong, but I've always thought it is an Australian term that 
has been adopted in this country.   Richard www.n7tgb.net  
  > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:05 PM
  >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Acronyms-a little OT
  >
  > 
  > Where did the expression "No Joy" originate to indicate an unsuccessful 
repair effort? Â  Â  Â 
  >
  >
  >
  > 

  Ron Wright, N9EE
  727-376-6575
  MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
  Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
  No tone, all are welcome.



   

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Att'n: Mike Morris

[Mike Perryman]

I concur...  Mike is a very knowledgable guy...  and a good dude all around.
nuff said.
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don KA9QJG
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:58 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Att'n: Mike Morris




  __,
  If You are talking about Mike Morris on this Group being Flaky At least
Spell His Name right,  I hope We get more  like Him I have learned more from
Him and others on this Group By direct E-Mail and on the Forum  Then
anywhere else,  Sometimes  you get a Honest answer You might not like it
but it Fact and from Yrs of Experience .

  , Sometimes it is a Great idea just to read the Files and Archives to find
answers that are ask over and over.



  Good Luck with Your Problem ever what it is



  Happy Repeater Building



  Don KA9QJG

  _._,___

  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: it's a Sinclair... Nope, its a Antenna Specialists!

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Dennis,
Ding me tomorrow as I have a bookcase full of old catalogs...  several
AS/Allen TelCom.  I will see if I can find a listing.
mperryman"at"cavellmertz.com
73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Bridgeman
  Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:28 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: it's a Sinclair... Nope, its a Antenna
Specialists!



  Hi, everyone,

  I have been following this thread and maybe someone out there can help me
out.  I have what appears to be the same thing in storage here.  I am fairly
certain mine is the 4-bay ASP602, but I have been trying to find information
to help identify the freq band for it.  I have been trying to find
measurement references, but with no luck.  Also, on each of the mounts,
there is the number "4" stamped.  Is there anyone that might have some info
to help solve my dilemma?  I would be happy to provide measurements.

  Dennis Bridgeman KCØFWN
  Bridgeman Communications
  202 Seventh Street
  Carmi, IL 62821
  http://bridgemancommunications.com




- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: it's a Sinclair... Nope, its a
Antenna Specialists!



In a message dated 5/1/2007 1:55:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Dig out an Antenna Specialists catalog. Looks like their "Power
Director" series to me.

  Chuck
  WB2EDV

Hi All!

I think Chuck is right it looks like a ASPC 601 or 602 (assuming its a 4
bay)
I have one along the side of the house, the element and mount is a
golden brass color

73, Brian, WD9HSY







See what's free at AOL.com.


  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Conversion

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Yup...  best advice is get the correct manual for the station and get to
know both very well  It will save you and your neighbors a lot of greif.

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Maire-Radios
  Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:05 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Conversion



  there is a little more then that.  look at the back terminal board and the
filters that need to be added to the receive connections.


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:52 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Conversion


I am converting a full duplex Micor base station to a repeater. The
station was pulled from service on the UHF MED channels and won't repeat
but will full duplex.

I have looked over repeater-builder.com and am not finding an article
describing the procedure. Can I just add the squelch gate and time out
timer cards and get it to repeat?

Randy




  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Thanks for the info

[Mike Perryman]

 Our Micro is on 2 meters and has a 70 cm receiver in the cabinet who's
frequency I don't know.  Need to find that out!!

^ control receiver maybe???  just a thought...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob & Linda Smith
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:47 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Thanks for the info



  Thanks Nate, I've put your email in the special folder on our repeater..
I remember when I was with the Phone Co., we did just what you are
suggesting..  Wrote it all down, twice or three times, that was before
digital photos of course..

  73, Bob Smith WB6ODR, Prescott, AZ
- Original Message -
From: Nate Duehr
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rethinking the Possible poll question




On 4/15/07, Bob & Linda Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I think our Micor must have been properly converted because it has
been on the air for about 25 years according to the original owner who I
talk with 2 weeks ago.  Our Micro is on 2 meters and has a 70 cm receiver in
the cabinet who's frequency I don't know.  Need to find that out!!

  The main reason for a possible change of equipment is the possibility
of some digital work later on.

  Thanks for the pointers.

  Bob WB6ODR

Side note for your project there Bob,

Just because it was "on-air" doesn't mean it performed well, or even to
spec.

If you have things like a UHF receiver in the cabinet that you don't
know what it is, now is the time to document, document, document...

Later on, you'll certainly want to know things like, "Just where is that
wire from the controller hooked to", and digital photos, drawings of all
wiring, etc... are what you'll need.  Attack the thing with a label maker
too, and label every cable interconnect and every port they plug into.  Take
lots of pictures.  Go nuts.  Digital is cheap.

Next, find someone with the right test gear and measure all the basics
as it's installed at your site.  Receiver sensitivity off and on the antenna
system,  transmitter power level, duplexer isolation, feedline losses...
whatever you can measure, and write it all down somewhere -- start your
"engineering book" for the repeater system, and then require that if changes
are made, the docs get updated.

You'll be happy you did later.  And as friends say, if you haven't
measured -- you don't know where you're starting from...

Nate WY0X


  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR feedline revisited and revised!

[Mike Perryman]

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of skipp025
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 12:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR feedline revisited and revised!
Ditto!
"Engineer-X" has his pooky in a pile and I trust his analysis  not to
mention I verified a lot of his work.

No desire to debate the issue either...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



A very interesting read... however,

I have a good friend... one of the best RF Engineers I've ever met.
Former HP to Aglient guy now working for another big name company
doing serious rf and lightwave work. He took some time to out to run
through various rf connectors on the companies very high-end test
equipment. Something he does at/for his job all the time.

A very quick summary of the end results... PL-259 Connectors are
not really the UHF horror story people might assume.

A sidebar... I didn't see any mention of Epoxy dilectric type PL-259
connectors.

If you search the yahoo rfamplifiers group a year or two back... you
can find his post in one of the more interesting threads. I don't
have the time, nor do I care to debate the subject... but I do agree
with my friends testing. Sure there are much better UHF connectors
available... but using a good quality PL-250 in the lower UHF Range
is really no big deal.

cheers,
skipp

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Advanced Receiver Research Preamp 144-148

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Fred is right...  it's a trot-line.  A  trout-line is a bunch of pompous
fairys lined-up in hip waders..  LOL!!
Wish I was out running lines instead of readying for an ice storm...

73
Mike
K5JMP
The self-proclaimed redneck from hell
www.k5jmp.us


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Flowers
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:08 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Advanced Receiver Research Preamp
144-148


Well that ya'll are not as smart as you think you are.  It IS trotline & one
doesn't catch Trout with it.  One catches catfish on a trotline.
Fred N4GER

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Kanvick
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:41 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Advanced Receiver Research Preamp
144-148

I believe the word is TROUT. LOL.
Best of the luck to you tuning repeaters with Bubba, while you are fishing.
73's.

Butch, KE7FEL/r


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Advanced Receiver Research Preamp
144-148
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:29:00 EST


In a message dated 2/11/2007 11:14:08 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You  folks have to understand back here in the hills of western Arkansas
we  save our money for fishin lures, ammo, Red Man, white lightning and
repairs to the 75 pick up. When we tune up the repeater it's with Bubba
on his HT in the next valley.

We picked up this preamp at a garage  sale for $ .25 and if no body
knows the part number is we'll just use it  for a trotline weight.






I'm mesmerized, indeed paralyzed, by the image of Arkansas hill billys
eating rainbow trots.







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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Motorola repeaters

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

You should be able to find most anything you need on this website..
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/
Look in the motorola section for tons of info...

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luke
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Motorola repeaters


Well I after reading all the feedback on which unit to use I think I 
will go with the Micor but now I need som help on doing this or at 
least the specs and diagrams for this, I have yet to find a service 
manual on thes model or anything so please give me all the help you 
all can on this and I will gladly use it to the fullest. Thanks 
again, Luke.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Doug Dickinson 

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I vote for doing either - whatever works for you!
> 
> The Micos is a fine radio - no doubt. It is also a
> very old radio. The only way to get parts is to scrap
> an old micor. Just about the same for the SRA series
> syntor. Both have mechanical frontends and can do a
> great job, but the syntors DO require two radios to
> make a repeater. This is not all bat though - you can
> swap the RX and TX radios and get a station back on
> the air on no time with no real radio modification.
> The Micor's require surgery and don't reert easily
> back to mobiles if needed. One good thing - the cables
> and control head for up to a 12 channel micor also
> work directlywith an SRA series syntor. 
> 
> A syntor 9000 is another animal.
>






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Sorry, was headed out the office door...  just arrived home and see the link
has already been posted...

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DCFluX
  Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:12 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall


  Link?


  On 2/1/07, Mike Perryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I found it...  the guy was on the top-plate of a roughly 500 foot
self-supporter...  he tried to rip the lightning rod off and lost his
footing...   serves him right.  No sleep lost here...
 73
    Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
  Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:53 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall


  What site are you talking about?

  Chuck
  WB2EDV


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall


Take a look at same site for non-entertainment video clip of the guy
falling off the top of a huge tower to his death. That should be a refresher
for some people to be extra careful when climbing towers.
Gary  K2UQ


  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall

[Mike Perryman]

I found it...  the guy was on the top-plate of a roughly 500 foot
self-supporter...  he tried to rip the lightning rod off and lost his
footing...   serves him right.  No sleep lost here...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
  Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:53 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall


  What site are you talking about?

  Chuck
  WB2EDV


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall


Take a look at same site for non-entertainment video clip of the guy
falling off the top of a huge tower to his death. That should be a refresher
for some people to be extra careful when climbing towers.
Gary  K2UQ

  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR-1200

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Use the LDF-4

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Blasberg
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR-1200


Skipp and Jim,

LMR-1200 is a hardline (I think), unlike 400 and 600, and is 
approximately 1 7/8". I am familiar with the foil/braid issues of 400 
and 600, but have not had a chance to look at/play with 1200. So any 
and all comments are welcomed and appreciated.

I do have access to several lengths of LDF-4 (??), that I was going to 
use and still may.

Just wanted opinions/knowledge on the LMR-1200.

Thanks,

Dan
KA8YPY


On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:00 PM, skipp025 wrote:

> Yeah, a lot of you probably noticed I'm keeping quiet of this
> post.  He said the price was free...  if its the only boat in
> your harbour you probably take it for a ride.
>
> All my LMR cable problems have been with LMR-400 and 600
> type cables.   ... and lots of them so as you all know I
> don't like or use the LMR type cable anymore.
>
> cheers,
> skipp
>
>> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Won't that still suffer from the foil/braid noise problem in duplex?
>> I swear the LMR-1200 I saw had two braids and a foil shield...
>> it's been a while though, and LMR cables were very new.
>> -- 
>> Jim Barbour
>> WD8CHL
>>
>>> STeve Andre' wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 23 January 2007 13:13, Dan Blasberg wrote:
>>> Anybody have any opinions on LMR-1200 as feedline?
>>> I have access to about 100' with N connectors at both ends,
>>> that I am thinking of using for feedline.
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Setting Up A New Repeater

[Mike Perryman]

Welcome Chris...  My grandpa used to own a horse ranch in Kaufman.  Nice
area...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher
Hodgdon
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:12 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Setting Up A New Repeater


First I would like to say that I am happy to be a part of this group,
I just found it today and wish to spend a lot of time on here.  I am
newly licensed as a ham (KE5IGO) and am now the EC for our county ARES
program, Kaufman County ARES, Inc. North Texas area.

We are working on getting a repeater system in place that we will be
able to use and will provide the needs of our organization and those
that we help.

I would like to invite everyone to read a news article on our site
about the repeater and our efforts to get it operational.  More news
will be coming as available.

Check it out at:
http://www.kaufman-ares.org/News/articles/00/50.htm copy into
your browser.

http://www.kaufman-ares.org/News/articles/00/50.htm";>Click
Here

Thanks for looking and I look forward to receiving emails from this group.

Chris Hodgdon - KE5IGO
EC - Kaufman County ARES, Inc.
Chief - Kaufman County CERT, Inc.
Chief - Southern Search & Rescue, Inc.






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue

[Mike Perryman]

One other thought...  I am using this version..  no issues here.
  Software Version... R04.00.01
  Software Date.. 06-OCT-00

 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew G.
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:48 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue


  I have a Motorola GTX900 that is refusing to program. It does not want to
communicate with either of my 2 PC's in DOS mode. So far have tried RSS 1,
2, and Lab R01. Nothing, keep getting Error#2 no communication. Cable/PC is
working since I pulled the GTX off and read/wrote my Maxtrac and GM300 with
no problem. Any Ideas?

  Thanks
  Andy KC2GOW



--
  Don't pick lemons.
  See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue

[Mike Perryman]

Sounds like someone may have used a newer version of RSS than yours
they are not backward compatible...  That is the only guess I would have...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew G.
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:48 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX900 Programming Issue


  I have a Motorola GTX900 that is refusing to program. It does not want to
communicate with either of my 2 PC's in DOS mode. So far have tried RSS 1,
2, and Lab R01. Nothing, keep getting Error#2 no communication. Cable/PC is
working since I pulled the GTX off and read/wrote my Maxtrac and GM300 with
no problem. Any Ideas?

  Thanks
  Andy KC2GOW



--
  Don't pick lemons.
  See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-400 Cluser $*%& Again

[Mike Perryman]

I think it was prolly the "million diode marching band" generating broad
spectrum noise...
I have seen exactly the same thing here, and they were in climate controlled
buildings.

 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:08 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-400 Cluser $*%& Again


Skipp,

Interesting account!  Will you be performing an autopsy to determine the
exact cause of failure?  I'm curious about how a bad cable on the TX side
caused the RX to be degraded.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-400 Cluser $*%& Again

Re: LMR-400 Cluser $*%& Again

Here we go again... date line Dec. 27, 2006

Trouble call to a high level repeater site yesterday... reports of
a vhf Motorola Repeater not working well... very poor receive.

Test the Receiver and Transmitter Sections for proper operation.

Receiver checks pretty good... removed the un-needed problematic home
brew (removed from a...) Motorola Motrac Mobile era receiver
pre-amplifier filter assembly with a bad internal cable connection.
Not the main problem source... just a future head ache.
Some improvement in the receiver section... but not enough yet

Those Motrac era receiver pre-selector amplifier assemblies are
another topic/thread. Onward...

Transmitter chain/side with matching tpl amplifier and Decibel IMD
panel check out just fine. Put it all back on the Wacom Duplexer
and the receiver sens "turns to butta'" (craps out).

What are you thinking now..? Duplexer..?

You would be wrong Mr Microphone. The Duplexer checks out 100% using
various tests ... so what do we have left? Well bartender
we figure one of the cables might be bad... let's see what we have
here?

A! someone put an LMR-400 coax cable from the IMD panel
to the duplexer. "Shoot that person!" Lucky for Mr LMR-400 man
I don't know who he is...

So out comes the LMR-400 (appears) factory made jumper and in we
place a 1/2 inch andrew superflex hardline jumper. PROBLEM GOES
AWAY..! The Repeater returns to normal operation... I finish my
coffee (with cream) because the wind is doing 55mph plus outside.

Within the last year I/we have had at least 3 episodes of LMR-400
feed-line causing serious trouble on repeater systems. At least two
of those serious problems have started some x-value of time after
the lmr-400 cable was first installed.



LMR-400 is not allowed on Duplex Radio Systems within my control. In
fact I try to get it out of antenna systems anytime I see it...

I hope some of you don't fall for the low cost vs performance sales
line... unless you have the time and resources to deal with un-needed
trouble (self abuse).

cheers,
skipp







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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6M cans made from other metals

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Skipp025 ->>"Something you did in your project was not as well done as it
probably could have been."


I am running a heliax duplexer, and it has seen 100° to 15°...  no issues so
far.  Skipp knows all the details...  and there is no majic.

Perhaps you need to take another look at construction technique
besides, if it is all copper, then the expansion coeffeicient is constant
throughout...  no?  If that is the case, then the relationships do not
vary...  so where is the issue?

IMO the biggest issue with a heliax duplexer is mechanical stability...  due
to bumping, banging, etc...  not thermal expansion or growth.  I can build
them all day long...  but if I could find a way to ship them, and have them
arrive "in-tune" I could make a fortune...  God knows I am trying..  LOL!
Working on that one...  just not willing to release the info 'til I KNOW it
will be rock solid in shipping..  Yes, I have built and shipped several to
another individual I trust, and the curret design just isn't stable.

I took a shot at building my own "cans", but without the proper goodies to
machine the descreet parts, it was a waste of time.  And without
silverplating everything, you will not acheive commercial specs.  The "Q" of
the circuit is everything.  While I don't have a lathe, others have
contributed time and resources to forward the heliax design.  It is a very
valid concept, I just need to iron-out implementation.

I will say it again to reinforce the thought...  it is a very valid concept,
don't write it off.

Right now I am kinda soured on radio due to neanderthals in my local
environment...  so of late I have been concentrating on drag racing.<-- this
IS my first love...<  Radio doesn't compare to the rush I get covering 1300
ft in 9 seconds...  heh! Then get to drive the same car to work on Monday
morning... woot!
woot![IMG]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/bananalama.gif[/IMG]

Contest when the oppurtunity presents itsself, and building thumpin' small
blocks (or pig-blocks  --->gag!) for the primary hobby.  630hp from a
smallblock on pumpgas, now add 300hp of NO2...  got wood yet?   Yeah, it can
be done...  almost 2 hp per cube plus NOS...  requires that you keep your
head in the game.  It sits in my backyard as we speak, 630 hp& 570 ft/lbs
torque from a 355ci smallblock on pump gas, all N-A motor...  no chemical
reactions, hair-dryers etc...  play chemistry and things get interesting.
It gets close to 1000hp  get the picture?

Chemistry requires a lot of math, or a lot of money...  your choice...  so
does a filter.

Wanna have some fun...  how about 1800hp from a small-block.  A guy gave me
a blank check and said make it really fast.  Big freakin' turbo... So far we
have only been able to put about 1100 to the track, yes there is a ton of
computer mgmt going on here  and it still leaves a lot of room for
improvement  but he is running 6.70's in the quarter with a
door-slammer.

The same can be said for the heliax duplexer.   Works good, but it could be
so much better!

If you don't get serious, you won't realize the benefits.  Decimal points
count...  what more can I say?

If I can do all that, surely any of you can build a series resonant notch
filter  it really isn't that tough guys...  there is no majic.  You can
do this...
Apply yourself, and your talents before you write a design off...

My final answer...

Precision counts.  Without the ability (the mindset required) to adhere to
the physical relationships...  you are wasting your time...  might as well
break out the credit card and whine a bunch.  Most folks do exactly that..
if you can't afford commercial cavities, you best sharpen your pencil and
get your calculator out..  time is a wastin'.

Serious engineering requires serious disclipline...  don't deviate from the
laws of physics or you will get your ass kicked.   This ain't HF...

'nuf said.
Just my [IMG]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/twocents.gif[/IMG] and it is
3:03 in the morning...  need to sleep... later..
73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of skipp025
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 9:21 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6M cans made from other metals


> "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have built cans in the past and would NEVER do it again.  It
> is a waste of time.

Some people don't have great results...

> As the metals expand and contract, so does the tuning.  The
> main tuning rod shafts are the biggest problem.  The metal
> needs to have ZERO coefficient of expansion properties.  Unless
> you have access to such material, DON'T GO THERE!

I went there with pretty good results...  if you build the
plungers right you don't have a big problem with drift once
they're locked down.  Telewave's plungers are just copper
pipe with quality fingerstock.  You don't have to use metal
threaded rod...

> I had to tune the cavities I made around 7 times 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?

[Mike Perryman]

Kris,
I have no idea about a tube version...  but I have a Micor 75W solid state
PA for 800 if you are interested lemme know..
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kirby
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 800MHz Base Stations?



Did Motorola ever make a Micor or earlier vintage base station with a
tube PA on 800MHz?

--
Kris Kirby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK

[Mike Perryman]

Man, those caps have been at my house for months...  I would be willing to
bet Brian has prolly started cussing me by now
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve
  Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:09 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK


  Hi Mike

  OK, no problem did you get the machined caps from the UK
  chap ?. Yes I did play with small diameter heliax but it is
  to bendy, and this is what throws it off tune.

  73

  Steve
- Original Message -
From: Mike Perryman
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK



I have had good luck with 1-5/8" foam heliax  haven't had time to
fart with the machined capicitors as of yet...  but it is on my "to do"
list
Also web server appears to have farted again, so "no lookie" at my
heliax-duplexer adventures for now...
Will try to get it fixed soon.
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve
  Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:14 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK


  Hi Matt

  What size heliax did you use, I seem to remember that it was built for
you, wasn't it. I tried myself with small dia stuff
  and it was not very good, went slightly off tune and of course
  rx desense. As I have said, itmay just have been the cable I used.

  73

  Steve
- Original Message -
From: Matt Beasant
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK


My heliax duplexer has been in service now for over 2
years at GB3FH without fault or need to re-adjust.

I check it every time I visit site and it never moves!

Over 85dB rejection on one side and 90 odd dB on the
other, works fine for me.

You can see pictures of it at www.gb3fh.org.uk

Regards,

Matt, G4RKY
--- Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> don't get me wrong, Iam not condeming heliax
> duplexers
> totaly, but you have to take into account
> reliability once on site. I did make one but had to
> scrap it as it was so unreliable causing de sense
> etc, and every time I had to look at it I had to
> make arragements to access the site, which could
> take upto 2 weeks, must point out the one I
> made used small dia heliax, maybe larger dia would
> be OK
> but as I can't get any, I don't know
> Anyway had my say so end of thread from me
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: Barry C'
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted
> in UK
>
>
>
> Being a fan to the exclusion of saving several
> hundred quid is rather silly
> when the duplexers work well and are generally
> quite efficient .
>
> >From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer
> wanted in UK
> >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:07:54 -
> >
> >Hi
> >
> > think you will find that Dave, like me, isn't a
> huge fan
> >of Heliax duplexers, see my posts about actualy
> getting
> >hold of ldf 750
> >
> >73
> >
> >Steve
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mr John Lloyd
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com ; John
> >Lloyd
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:56 AM
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted
> in UK
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > You can build your own 6 Mtr duplexer. Find some
> 1-5/8
> > heliax and put one together.
> >
> > Look at http://www.wa7x.com/ki7dx_rpt.html
> >
> > Thanks,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK

[Mike Perryman]

I have had good luck with 1-5/8" foam heliax  haven't had time to fart
with the machined capicitors as of yet...  but it is on my "to do" list
Also web server appears to have farted again, so "no lookie" at my
heliax-duplexer adventures for now...
Will try to get it fixed soon.
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve
  Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:14 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK


  Hi Matt

  What size heliax did you use, I seem to remember that it was built for
you, wasn't it. I tried myself with small dia stuff
  and it was not very good, went slightly off tune and of course
  rx desense. As I have said, itmay just have been the cable I used.

  73

  Steve
- Original Message -
From: Matt Beasant
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted in UK


My heliax duplexer has been in service now for over 2
years at GB3FH without fault or need to re-adjust.

I check it every time I visit site and it never moves!

Over 85dB rejection on one side and 90 odd dB on the
other, works fine for me.

You can see pictures of it at www.gb3fh.org.uk

Regards,

Matt, G4RKY
--- Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> don't get me wrong, Iam not condeming heliax
> duplexers
> totaly, but you have to take into account
> reliability once on site. I did make one but had to
> scrap it as it was so unreliable causing de sense
> etc, and every time I had to look at it I had to
> make arragements to access the site, which could
> take upto 2 weeks, must point out the one I
> made used small dia heliax, maybe larger dia would
> be OK
> but as I can't get any, I don't know
> Anyway had my say so end of thread from me
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: Barry C'
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted
> in UK
>
>
>
> Being a fan to the exclusion of saving several
> hundred quid is rather silly
> when the duplexers work well and are generally
> quite efficient .
>
> >From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer
> wanted in UK
> >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:07:54 -
> >
> >Hi
> >
> > think you will find that Dave, like me, isn't a
> huge fan
> >of Heliax duplexers, see my posts about actualy
> getting
> >hold of ldf 750
> >
> >73
> >
> >Steve
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mr John Lloyd
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com ; John
> >Lloyd
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:56 AM
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6M duplexer wanted
> in UK
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > You can build your own 6 Mtr duplexer. Find some
> 1-5/8
> > heliax and put one together.
> >
> > Look at http://www.wa7x.com/ki7dx_rpt.html
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John, K7JL
> >
> > Utah VHF Society
> >
> > http://utahvhfs.org/snowlink.html
> >
> > 1a. 6M duplexer wanted in UK
> > Posted by: "dave_g7uzn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > dave_g7uzn
> > Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 3:20 am ((PST))
> >
> > Hi All, Is anyone with a set of cavity filters
> > suitable for 50/51MHz
> > brave enough to sell them to me and get them
> shipped
> > to the UK for a
> > 6M repeater project? ALL expences will of course
> be
> > covered. If you
> > can help please email me direct at
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
__
> > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from
> people who know.
> > Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>--
   

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how to build a very simple repeater

[Mike Perryman]

I think what he is looking for is a logic buffer that will key the repeater
when COS/TOS is tripped
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:16 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how to build a very simple repeater


shame_you_promise wrote:
> thus any body here has a schematic diagram of transistorized repeater
> controller just to key the ptt and mean from audio signal to key the
> pttemail me [EMAIL PROTECTED]

this guys starting to sound like a troll. I can't even tell what he's
asking...
--
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions

[Mike Perryman]

You must be talking about the Darwin Award story..  LOL!
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:06 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: repeater antenna suggestions



OK .. how many of you were immediately thinking of the "barrel of tools up
the
tower" story?
(raises hand)  


Nate Duehr wrote:
Clip the pulley to something sturdy up-top, and have your buddy who
thought he was getting out of doing the hard part down at the truck --
pull the heavy stuff up to you via same rope now fed back down to him
through said pulley.  







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RE: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller

[Mike Perryman]

Neal,
Good controller, easy to program w/software and very versatile..  I love
mine!
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neal Newman
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:56 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller


 Any of you guys know anything about  a repeater controller called an
RC-210? or something like that.
 I see this 3 port controller all the Time on Ebay
 Good, bad   how difficult to program?
thanks
 Neal





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site for our new club repeater

[Mike Perryman]

Rob,
You can also go to www.fccinfo.com and by entering a set of coordinates, do
a within search for antenna structure registrations (ASR).  From there you
can pull the site contact info and what-not...  it will give you a place to
start anyway..
It doesn't cost anything, and is updated daily..  we maintain it for our
broadcast clients, but is there for anyone to use.
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us




-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob M.
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a Site for our new club
repeater


Lots of info can be found on www.repeater-builder.com
in regards to site contracts, things to look for, etc.
Probably nothing location-specific, like where the
good, cheap sites are. You're gonna have to start
listening and asking around to find those.

I thought Florida was so flat, you didn't need
anything higher than 30 ft?!?!?!

Bob M.
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--- ks4ec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cna anyone tell me where to start? is there a
> standard form letter to
> send to hi-rise buildings, or existing site owners?
>
> I see from other posts that there are some comercial
> sites that have
> amateur rates, who are they?
>
> I am in the West Palm Beach area and am looking for
> a site in north
> central Palm Beach county.
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>
> Rob KS4EC

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] my we are a bunch of trouble makers here at DaytonQRZ

[Mike Perryman]

Simple fix guys...  change your license to reflect a PO Box as your
address...
Of course then you could still get mugged at your PO box...
 73
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] my we are a bunch of trouble makers here
at DaytonQRZ


You misread my comment.  Please read it again.

I said the number of cars WITHOUT call plates and antennas could be
counted on both hands.

I thought this was NEAT!

As far as cars and rigs:

Theives can steal anything they want out of a car.  Cars aren't secure
in the slightest.  (I've had my Jeep broken into three times, trust me.)

I've known hams who've had call plates and radios in all their vehicles
for over 40 years who have never had a problem, and I know hams who've
hidden everything in their cars and had rigs ripped off.  It's not
predictable that call plates mean anything in how thieves pick their
targets.  In fact, it probably has a lot more to do with WHERE you park
your vehicle than anything else.  All of my breakins were within three
blocks of a bus station and a homeless shelter.  Outside of my time
working in that area of town, I've never had a problem.

The opportunity costs lost to paying for rig insurance must be worth the
convenience of getting it replaced anytime to you, or you run your risks
and take your chances, just like everything else in life.

And the standard financial/fiscal rule applies: Buy assets, not
liabilities, whenever possible.

Anyway, this isn't repeater related anymore...

The FCC posts all of our addresses publically -- one of the risks we
take of being hams.  The FAA long ago allowed pilots to remove their
public information -- The FCC doesn't appear to want to do it.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control

[Mike Perryman]

Yup, my error has been pointed out several times...

I was thinking of the TK-840..  as you will see further down in your
in-box...
But thanks for paying attention...  it helps to keep bad info from
spreading.

 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control


Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote:
> Kenwood 805d..  cheap on ebay, drops right into the hamband and is front
> panel programmable..  will do trunking or conventional.

uhh-no trunking on those, conventional only.

The -1 (450-470) split will work fine down to about 430-435 with a
little tweak of the front end. The -4 (406-430) split will be iffy above
about 442 or so.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Control

[Mike Perryman]

Yup,  If you look further down in your in-box, you will see that I corrected
that statement...

I was thinking of the 840 when I wrote the initial post..
BTW..  does anyone need an 840?  I have one that is excess to my needs.

 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us




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An 805 WILL NOT do trunking. only conventional. The 840 wil do both.






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Dirk,
You are correct...  I was thinking of the TK-840...  I have several of each
in service.

The 805"D" version is capable of DCS (Digital Coded Squelch). The TK805
(non-D) is the same radio but can only do CTCSS. Radio can be programmed for
the following through the front panel:
*TX and RX Frequencies, 12.5 kHz steps
*Different TX and RX codes
*Mixed CTCSS/DCS on same channel
*Selectable scan delay time
*Two selectable priority-scan "look-back" times (for a busy and non-busy
priority channel)
*Priority Scan - Fixed or "Selected Channel"

I stand corrected

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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Greetings,
I would like to add a correction. Unless kenwood added some new feature
to the Tk-805d, the unit was conventional only. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Dirk


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To: 
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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control


> Kenwood 805d..  cheap on ebay, drops right into the hamband and is front
> panel programmable..  will do trunking or conventional.
> eBay Item number: 9728511521 is currently listed, but I have seen a number
> of them go by recently..  this is a good little radio.  I use one for my
> 6m
> repeater control receiver and remote base.
>
> 73
> Mike
> K5JMP
> www.k5jmp.us
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> I am looking for a single unit commercial radio that is programable
> from the keyboard for operation in the 420-449.99 ham band.I have been
> asked to control a local repeater and my 440 gear is limited to 440 and
> up in freq.I need the standard ham options,duplex,CTCSS in and out and
> flex channel splits.DTMF on the mic or keyboard would be nice but not
> necessary.
>
> Does anyone know of a list of commercial units (any Mfg) that will move
> to the 440 ham band without major programming or re-alignment?I hope
> someone has researched this before and I don't have to re-invent the
> wheel,so to speak.
>
> A great list,I read it faithfully.I hope to get more involved in
> repeater installs and maintenance,my experience is many years old when
> we built our machines with tube-type gear and climbed 1200 ft TV towers.
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> Bob
> W0OXJ
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Kenwood 805d..  cheap on ebay, drops right into the hamband and is front
panel programmable..  will do trunking or conventional.
eBay Item number: 9728511521 is currently listed, but I have seen a number
of them go by recently..  this is a good little radio.  I use one for my 6m
repeater control receiver and remote base.

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control


I am looking for a single unit commercial radio that is programable
from the keyboard for operation in the 420-449.99 ham band.I have been
asked to control a local repeater and my 440 gear is limited to 440 and
up in freq.I need the standard ham options,duplex,CTCSS in and out and
flex channel splits.DTMF on the mic or keyboard would be nice but not
necessary.

Does anyone know of a list of commercial units (any Mfg) that will move
to the 440 ham band without major programming or re-alignment?I hope
someone has researched this before and I don't have to re-invent the
wheel,so to speak.

A great list,I read it faithfully.I hope to get more involved in
repeater installs and maintenance,my experience is many years old when
we built our machines with tube-type gear and climbed 1200 ft TV towers.

73,
Bob
W0OXJ













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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek COS ?

[Mike Perryman]

Hi 
Richard and Neil...
In my 
instance, it floats between 3 and 3.5 volts  which is just enough to 
confuse my controller as to which state the squelch is actually 
in.
 
Both 
approaches would probably work just fine...  but haven't had a chance to 
deal with it yet.  
 
I can think of a number of instances 
when one might want to disable the input tone. I haven't had a need to 
so far, so the issue hasn't been resolved as of yet.  
 
During 
the summer is when most station owners want to do maintenance on AM-Directional 
systems, so my days have been pretty full of late. 

 
Thanks 
for the ideas though  I will check into it once I get a 
chance....

 73 Mike 
Perryman www.k5jmp.us 

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  [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek COS ?  > Mike 
  Perryman wrote: >  I was having trouble with my micor in that the COS signal 
  would never go completely to zero volts...  
    Mocom-70 was good for that too ..  my solution came from a 
  fire-alarm controller: 
  Details are fuzzy, but ~ it used some dual-input flip-flop comparator chip 
  (7476 ?) ... sample (waffle-voltage) on one input & a reference on the 
  other. When the relative voltages reversed, made for a nice clean on-off 
  at the output, and a xstr follower allowed for switching some juice... 
  /. 
  Hmmm ... I have run into this problem in the past ... I fixed it 
  by biasing the emitter of the first (external) transistor off
  ground with a voltage divider .. or sometimes by placing a diode
  in series with the emitter. 
  One time - I think it was a Standard land-mobile radio, the COS 
  feed (aka squelch detector) was several volts above ground. In
  that instance, I installed a voltage divider between A+ and ground
  - to positive bias the added transistor above ground so when the 
  squelch opened, the sense lead to the external transistor turned
  it on.
  Make sense? 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek COS ?

[Mike Perryman]

Shane,
 

In my case, I had to supply a COS indication to be able to move to the 
next stage...  then the inbound signal is evaluated for the presence of the CTCSS tone  Once both conditions are 
met, my controller will key the 
transmitter.
 
I 
don't know for sure how the linker-II operates, but...  I have a RC-210 on 
a Micor and it will not key the transmitter unless it gets a COS 
signal.  COS is step 1...  adding the requirement of TOS (CTCSS) is 
step 2.  Most controllers set for tone 
squelch operation (at least all I have ever had dealings with) will 
require both conditions to be met before it will key the 
transmitter...
 
I also 
run a tone on my 6m repeater.  I was having trouble with my micor in that 
the COS signal would never go completely to zero volts...  this would have 
kept the transmitter keyed all the time if I 
didn't require the tone.  Like you, I do not plan to disable the 
tone..  ever.  
 
As the 
signaling logic for both the TOS and COS are positive in my application, I just 
tied both COS and TOS detect (from 
the controller) to the TOS indicator on the radio. Now when the receiver sees a tone on the inbound 
signal, both get the proper logic signal needed to key the 
repeater.
 
The repeater works fine, but I am unable to drop the tone requirement on 
the input.  I haven't had a chance to 
deal with the "floating COS voltage" as of yet...  but I plan to correct 
the condition when I get a chance.  

 
I would reccomend connecting the 
controller according to the manufacturers instructions  but this 
approach should work for you..

 73 Mike 
Perryman www.k5jmp.us 

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  COS ?I have recently purchased an ICS LinkerIIa controller. Super nice guy onthe phone with prompt shipping.. I have a question for the group..Where I live we have a lot of problems when we do not use PL/CTCSS onrepeaters for various reasons. So my question is this... I am using aconverted Mitrek plus 50W mobile (of course PA is turned down)with the HLN4181 tone board.I understand all of the connections etc (thanks repeater-builder.com!)to the outside of the radio. I do not intend to run the repeater atany time in COS mode. It will be in PL mode at all times. If I do thiswill I still have to hook up the COS to the repeater controller ornot? I assume that I can just use the CTCSS input on pin 9 of P1(Port1) on the controller for full control and not hook up pin 8 (COSinput). Is this correct or am I totally looking over something? Againlet me state again the repeater will be in PL decode mode at alltimes.. I do not
 intend to remove the PL at any time..Thanks ahead of timeShane KI4M
  
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Before you run off to Dayton: a quick query re: EF Johnson 9842 mobile

[Mike Perryman]

Bob,
How famaliar?  I have an 805D that I would like to use as a control
receiver.  Can you tell me where to pick up the various signals needed for
interfacing to a controller?
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Before you run off to Dayton: a quick query
re: EF Johnson 9842 mobile


Found one advertised on qth.com.  I was sort of looking for a TK-805 as I'm
slightly familiar with that radio.  Does the 9842 one program similarly to
the 805, & are manuals or at least mic pinout info readily available?
Thanks.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Arcom RC-110

[Mike Perryman]

This is exactly the same method I used for my RC-110.  I have since 
upgraded to a RC-210 and have discarded the software or I would pass it 
along.  I guess I could look for it...  or you can download the developers 
package as I did.

73,
Mike

At 11:35 AM 05/15/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>At 5/15/2006 10:26 AM, you wrote:
> > >
> > > Ken, how does Arcom upload the operating firmware into the RC-110?  The
> > > checksum error has been present on the file I download from NetMedia for
> > > over two years, as I have been trying to get a working copy for that 
> long.
> > >
> > > Could I get a copy of the upload program from Arcom that works?
> > >
> > > 73 - Jim
> > >
> >
> >Jim,
> >
> >I do not have any of Ken's controllers to play with, but I did try
> >downloading the BasicX program only (downloader, compiler, & editor)
> >file (bx-setup-210-program.zip 3.992megs) and installed it without a
> >problem. I can't say that it works as I do not have a device to load,
> >but it does start and appears to be OK.
> >
> >Ed Yoho
> >WA6RQD
>
>I purchased a complete BX-24 development system a couple of years ago & had
>no problem uploading my program into the BX-24.  I also just downloaded the
>downloader from http://www.basicx.com/downloads/bx-setup-210-program.zip,
>installed it & compared the files to the ones I used during development;
>they're identical.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

The question begs to be asked...  Have you actually built one?

73
Mike
K5JMP
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why mess with coax duplexers? you can make very good duplexers with coffee
cans or best is aluminum irrigation pipe.

Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


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Hi Tedd

very interesting. The cavities no doubt would cost a fortune
to ship to the UK.
Iam going to have a go at using Heliax, not keen on the idea
as they can be troublesome, go off tune with bending etc, but
Mike has encoraged me to have a go with the article on his
site, can but try as 1200 UK pounds for a commercial one
is a defo no no :-)


73

Steve
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> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:26:03 +0100, steve wrote:
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> >I beleive that you can buy commercial ones for around
> >$2500, no doubt someone will tell you were
>
> This came over the RC210 list..
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>   > Having now lost my repeater site and there being no interest in
looking
>   > for another site KC2ENI/R has the following items for sale.
>   >
>   > RC210 with phone patch (not/never installed) and rack mount enclosure.
>   >
>   > 6mtr GE Mastr tranceiver modified as repeater with rocks for 52/53.81.
>   > PL board installed currently set to 136.5. Set to emit roughly 60W but
>   > will do 100W (I don't recommend that!)
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>   > 5 cavity filters for above system. Standing at about 5 feet tall 3 are
>   > tune to 52.81 and the other 2 to 53.81. Probably local pickup due to
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>   > Looking for offers IRO $850 plus shipping. Will split.
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>   > Also, IRLP node currently attached to port 2 of above controller.
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>   > 25w 2ch 440MHz Moto Maxtrac with cables etc for V2 IRLP board
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>   > V2 IRLP board
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>   > Asking $300 plus shipping. Will split.
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>   > paying by check). Shipping from NJ-07869
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Can a 50Mhz Model be made to full-Duplex?

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Yes, the Mitrek can be duplexed in about 10 minutes..  There are several
articles on the repeater builder page.
http://www.repeater-builder.com/mitrek/mitrek-index.html
If you need the manual for the Mitrek you can download it here..
http://65.173.252.47/Miktrek_Info.htm

73
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Can a 50Mhz Model be made to full-Duplex?


Hi All,

I have a Mitrek for 50Mhz, I want to convert it for use as a 6mtr repeater.
Question is, is it possible to make it as a repeater from a single unit, or
do I need two radios?
I have all the information on converting, as I built units for a 10mtr
repeater, and a 2mtr unit.
If I can not use it I will use it as a base radio for 6mtrs.

Regards

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers

[Mike Perryman]

Steve,
Did you manage to get into contact with Brian-G4UTM?
I have mailed him a packet of PTFE rods for the next round of "beta" caps...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:05 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers


Hi Tedd

very interesting. The cavities no doubt would cost a fortune
to ship to the UK.
Iam going to have a go at using Heliax, not keen on the idea
as they can be troublesome, go off tune with bending etc, but
Mike has encoraged me to have a go with the article on his
site, can but try as 1200 UK pounds for a commercial one
is a defo no no :-)


73

Steve
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> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:26:03 +0100, steve wrote:
>
> >I beleive that you can buy commercial ones for around
> >$2500, no doubt someone will tell you were
>
> This came over the RC210 list..
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: "Mark Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:15 PM
>   Subject: [rc210] RC210 for sale
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>   > Hi folks,
>   >
>   > Having now lost my repeater site and there being no interest in
looking
>   > for another site KC2ENI/R has the following items for sale.
>   >
>   > RC210 with phone patch (not/never installed) and rack mount enclosure.
>   >
>   > 6mtr GE Mastr tranceiver modified as repeater with rocks for 52/53.81.
>   > PL board installed currently set to 136.5. Set to emit roughly 60W but
>   > will do 100W (I don't recommend that!)
>   >
>   > 5 cavity filters for above system. Standing at about 5 feet tall 3 are
>   > tune to 52.81 and the other 2 to 53.81. Probably local pickup due to
>   > size.
>   >
>   > Looking for offers IRO $850 plus shipping. Will split.
>   >
>   > Also, IRLP node currently attached to port 2 of above controller.
>   > Consists of;
>   >
>   > 4w 2ch 440MHz Moto Maxtrac with cables etc for RC210
>   >
>   > 25w 2ch 440MHz Moto Maxtrac with cables etc for V2 IRLP board
>   >
>   > V2 IRLP board
>   >
>   > Asking $300 plus shipping. Will split.
>   >
>   > Paypal or check (please allow time for clearing before items ships if
>   > paying by check). Shipping from NJ-07869
>   >
>   > Thanks de Mark
>   > G7LTT/KC2ENI
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> Tedd Doda, VE3TJD
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers

[Mike Perryman]

Doug,
I have a set of the same Wacom cans you referenced.  With the exception that
mine are the WP-612BpBr set (66-88MHz)...  Let me know how your project
goes, as I was considering the same thing.
 73
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Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:36 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers


Speaking of 6 meter conversions, I have received (2 ) 4 can pass
reject 300 khz duplexers for 72-76 mhz. My thoughts are to cut them
in half and lengthen them about a foot..My question is how important
would it be if the new addition section was copper but was not silver
plated inside, as the wipe portion of the can is lower where the
silver plating will still be...Will this disruption in surface
conductivity be an issue? It looks like the silver plating add on
could be done but will add significantly to the cost of the
project...I was planning on adding copper sheet rolled to fit,
riveted and silver soldered..and welding a splice into the tuning
rod.. I think they are Celwave products and the tube is already made
of what looks like rolled copper sheeting... ( about as thin as
heating ductwork) fairly easy to dent... unfortunately.:-)
Anyone "been there done that"  ???

Doug
KD8B


At 09:27 AM 4/28/2006, you wrote:
>Steve,
>If I knew where to get a set of 6m cans for the right price...  I would
have
>bought them already!!  They are rare as hens teeth.  And if you do happen
>across a "native" 6m duplexer...  the cost is usually outrageous..
>I have been working on the 6m Heliax duplexer for a while now.  I have one
>that works fairly well.







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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers

[Mike Perryman]

Steve,
If I knew where to get a set of 6m cans for the right price...  I would have
bought them already!!  They are rare as hens teeth.  And if you do happen
across a "native" 6m duplexer...  the cost is usually outrageous..
I have been working on the 6m Heliax duplexer for a while now.  I have one
that works fairly well.

But there is still room for improvement with regard to mechanical stability.
<--Parts move around causing the tuning to change.

I should receive another load of "beta" caps for testing in the next few
weeks.  Once I have refined things to where I am happy with the mess I will
publish a "how-to" article  with lots of graphics..

Until then, good luck with your search for a set of cans..  and I will keep
hammering away at the heliax route.

 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers


Does anyone have or know where I can buy a set of Duplexers that will
work in the 6 meter Ham band.
I am looking for duplexers that do not need to be modified and can be
tuned right up.
I would prefer a set of 4 cavities that would be resonant on 50 -54 Mhz

Any help is welcomed
Thanks
Steve K
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[Repeater-Builder] OT--> "Parts Disease"

[Mike Perryman]

I call it the "Parts Disease"...  and yes I have it as well!!
Could I interest anyone in a 3-axis seismograph??  Wait a minute...  I think
that one got away already.. a minor "rumbly" last year sparked interest in
that item.

But I do recall seeing parts for a Trailways bus down there...  somewhere...

A Commodore 64 computer maybe???  Cold-shrink for 1-5/8" heliax?  Etc

 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us




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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Electronics and Radio types...



Neil, you should seek professional help...  but so should
I and many other people in this group.

I'm trying to make it through "Junk Ender's"   It's a 12 step
program for Radio and Electronics People who like to collect
things... to excess

So far, not so good. One good flea market is good for a
"binge".  The Junk Enders folks (wife and/or family) never
see the 'purge...' regardless of how small it may be.

:-)

cheers,
skipp

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>   That is just one file cabinet folder ...
>
>   Do you remember the Western Electric KS-19594 'Magicall' Dialer?
>  I have a complete photo-copy of the manual here ... 2 photo-copies
>
>   Then more info on teh dialer: Bell System Practices:
> Section 512-125-400; Issue 3, August 1967; AT&T Co Standard
>   2 photo-copies
>
>
>   Relays - Pulse Speed and Percent Break: Bell Ssytem Practice:
>  Section 040-009-501  Issue 1, April 1967  AT&T Co Standard
>  1 photo-copy
>
>
>   Stapler - Arrow  Bell System Practices  Section 080-110-101
>  Issue 1, October, 1958  AT&T Co Standard  2 photo-copies
>
>   Stapler - Heller  Bell System Practices  Section 080-110-102
>  Issue 1, October 1958  AT&T Co Standard  2 photo-copies
>
>   Telephone Sets  1500 and 1554 Types
>   Identification, Installation and Maintenance
>   Bell System Practices  Section 502-510-111  Issue 1, November
>  1967  AT&T Co Standard  1 photo-copy
>
>   Speakerphone system-3-type  1712B Telephone Set
>   Connections and Maintenance
>   Bell System Practices  Section 512-621-474  Issue 1, August 1967
>  AT&T Co Standard  1 photo-copy
>
>   "Touch-Tone" Calling Receivers
>   Type A2 SD-95287-01 and Type A3 SD-98148-01
>   General Descriptive Information
>   Bell System Practices  Section 975-212-110  Issue 2, November
>  1967  AT&T Co Standard  5 photo-copies ...
>Note: almost looks like what we used to call the Bell System
>   247B Touch-Tone decoder
>
>   "Touch-Tone" Calling Receiver, Type C1  SD-67027-01
>   General Descriptive Information
>   Bell System Practices  Section 975-212-130  Issue 2, November
>  1967  AT&T Co Standard  7 photo-copies
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6m heliax duplexer experiment

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

I would guess that the resulting impedance mismatch would mess with the
current nodes somewhat...
In order to acheive peak effeciency, you really want to stay on the odd
numbered 1/4 wave current nodes.  Not really sure what the effect on
velocity of propagation would be.. you will definately need that bit of
information to cut the length properly.

I strongly suggest sticking with 50 ohm high quality cable.

I have found that the little details are what will kill an effort regarding
this project..

The series resonant notch is very sensitive, so it doesn't take much of a
change to wander from resonance... and you need every dB you can wring out
of this design.
If I get a chance, I will look into it..  I think I have some RG6 around
here...  the foil may become an issue as well over time.  Just not real
sure.

73
Mike
K5JMP
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robin Midgett
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6m heliax duplexer experiment


Good show Mike!
Q: What would be the effect of using high quality 75 ohm cable (say
double shielded RG-6)  for the interconnect cables?

At 03:05 PM 4/20/2006, you wrote:
>OK folks...  have done a minor re-write of the duplexer page with a bunch
of
>updated data..
>www.k5jmp.us
>look for the duplexer link on the left-hand side..
>
>moderators, and webmasters of RBTIP heads-up...  the URL has changes as
>well..
>
>  73
>Mike Perryman
>www.k5jmp.us
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6m heliax duplexer experiment

[Mike Perryman]

OK folks...  have done a minor re-write of the duplexer page with a bunch of
updated data..
www.k5jmp.us
look for the duplexer link on the left-hand side..

moderators, and webmasters of RBTIP heads-up...  the URL has changes as
well..

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Amplifiers at Flea Markets

[Mike Perryman]

Skipp,
Interesting you should mention the "blanketing contour" effect..

My 6m machine (51.4 in) was receiving on channel IX from a VHF jamming
vehicle over at the Marine Corps Artillery Training Range about 3km's away.
I got tired of the in-bound mess, and stuffed 700W of RTTY "cease and
desist" into a phased stacked 6m array (14dB of gain), and shot the message
back to them about a dozen times.  (Jeez I love the results of my hacked
SB-200 on 6m, which BTW is quite clean...  just waaay loud!)
Seems they must have had an "old-timer" on the training staff (no newbie
would recognize RTTY)...  the interference magically disappeared!

I have also been known to do the same in my mobile when an earthquake on
wheels gets just a little annoying .  When things in my vehicle start
buzzing and rattling, it is just too darn loud!!

BTW..  it works very well on electric guitar amps as well!!

 73
Mike Perryman
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Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 12:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amplifiers at Flea Markets


Hey now..!

Don't pick on the Black-Cat Amplifiers...   I use one to shut down my
neighbor playing his home stereo too loud.  The darn thing will even
hose up his Auto Stereo pretty well.

A nice low frequency semi square wave signal will get him to shut
down his mega-stereos in less than 30 sec typical.

"Nelly" and "50-Cent" can't compete with "RTTY-Signal" into a JB-150
(on ten meters of course) to the folks here in the hood.

:-)
s.

[hard to keep from laughing too loud when it happens]

> "Dave VanHorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic? Manuals

[Mike Perryman]

Sorry about that..  but the thought of getting my hands on some of these old
manuals caused my brain to vapor-lock...
I have replied direct.
 73
Mike Perryman
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Paul,
I need a few minutes to research the proper number for a High-Power Micor
UHF Station..  Eric sent the numbers, but I will have to dig them out of my
email archives..
Also looking for the manual for a TPN-1105 power supply..  also in archives.
Standby and I will do so..
Approximate cost for your manuals?..
Thanks,
Mike


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>Hello,
>
>I just bought out a old bankrupt Motorola Service shop, I now have just
>about every kind of manual from HT-200's (yes I said HT-200!) to the latest
>radio Motorola sold up until about 5 years ago.  I got two huge file
>cabinets full of manuals as well as several boxes full of the same thing.
>Also got three drawers of GE LBI manuals but unsure what's in there.  If
you
>need a manual let me know what radio/band and I will check stock, .
>
>Also got some Sentor XX 800 MHz radios, multi-meter test sets, control
>cables, microphones, parts, as well as several other radios.  One surprise,
>a brand new in the box Mostar radio that I think is 800 MHz LTR trunking
>radio.
>
>If you ask for it I probably have it, this was a working Motorola Shop up
>until about 2 to 5 years ago.
>
>Please respond directly back to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested.
>
>Paul
>WB5IDM
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic? Manuals

[Mike Perryman]

Paul,
I need a few minutes to research the proper number for a High-Power Micor 
UHF Station..  Eric sent the numbers, but I will have to dig them out of my 
email archives..
Also looking for the manual for a TPN-1105 power supply..  also in archives.
Standby and I will do so..
Approximate cost for your manuals?..
Thanks,
Mike


At 10:22 AM 04/20/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I just bought out a old bankrupt Motorola Service shop, I now have just
>about every kind of manual from HT-200's (yes I said HT-200!) to the latest
>radio Motorola sold up until about 5 years ago.  I got two huge file
>cabinets full of manuals as well as several boxes full of the same thing.
>Also got three drawers of GE LBI manuals but unsure what's in there.  If you
>need a manual let me know what radio/band and I will check stock, .
>
>Also got some Sentor XX 800 MHz radios, multi-meter test sets, control
>cables, microphones, parts, as well as several other radios.  One surprise,
>a brand new in the box Mostar radio that I think is 800 MHz LTR trunking
>radio.
>
>If you ask for it I probably have it, this was a working Motorola Shop up
>until about 2 to 5 years ago.
>
>Please respond directly back to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested.
>
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>WB5IDM
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[Repeater-Builder] 6m heliax duplexer experiment

[Mike Perryman]

Well, it requires machining custom piston-style capacitors from brass rod,
and teflon rods...  If you don't have access to a lathe, it could be a very
expensive approach to the issue.  I will post a "how-to" article for the
RBTIP page when everything has been proven and tested.  So far, I only have
one of the filters.  It is currently under stability testing, and will take
time to evaluate the design.

I am ordering more teflon rod stock, which has to be shipped to the UK for
machining by my counterpart in the experiment..  Brian has been extremely
helpful, and I could not have gotten this far without his expertise.

I will keep folks on the list up to date with our progress...  but it will
be a while before I am ready to publish anything..
For the time being..  initial results are looking very promising!!
 73
Mike Perryman
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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention


Hi Mike,
I'm interested in your efforts..I'm planning to build some 6m heliax
duplexers...please share.

At 02:23 PM 4/18/2006, you wrote:
>Jeff,
>I am cooking-up a pet project to stabilize the 6m heliax duplexer...  And I
>think I have it licked.
>Will let you know how it works out.  I have a filter in my repeater under
>test now...  even the Brown-Shirts couldn't make this thing move around in
>tuning..  hehehe
>
>mike
>
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> > Avoiding it like the plague Sir!!
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>If you don't go, how are you going to earn any Dayton spending money?
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention

[Mike Perryman]

Jeff,
I am cooking-up a pet project to stabilize the 6m heliax duplexer...  And I
think I have it licked.
Will let you know how it works out.  I have a filter in my repeater under
test now...  even the Brown-Shirts couldn't make this thing move around in
tuning..  hehehe

mike

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> Avoiding it like the plague Sir!!

If you don't go, how are you going to earn any Dayton spending money?

WN3A's Las Vegas motto: "There's no such thing as a loser, just winners
that quit too early."

--- Jeff

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention

[Mike Perryman]

Avoiding it like the plague Sir!!
Too darn busy here anyway...
 73
Mike Perryman
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Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:02 PM
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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention


> "See you at IWCE and Dayton... I'm the guy with the pen
> in my shirt pocket... :-) "
>

Anyone else going to NAB?

--- Jeff

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] pocket protector pens

[Mike Perryman]

Yup,  I like the gel pens as well.  Good for carbons etc...
Mostly I use a mechanical pencil...  being a borderline dyslexic is hell for
a paper-pushing engineer!

You would have to mention brauts just before lunch...  so much for my
concentration.  Having visions of Fraulines with liter mugs of "real beer"
and brauts on brotchen dancing in my head now!!!

mike

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] pocket protector pens


I've been using the newer Pilot Brand Gel Pens, in specific
the G-2 model.  It writes well with real live ink. Before
the Gel Pens, I was a big fan of the Schaffer live ink
fountain pens. They are now made as a one use pen, which is
pretty cool. The new Gel hard point pens lets me write through
multiple forms.

No pocket protector required with the new stuff. If I could
just get people to quit taking them off my desk. Plan for
next year Mike...  takes'em that long to cook the Brauts...

cheers,
skipp

> "Mike Perryman K5JMP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "See you at IWCE and Dayton... I'm the guy with the pen
> in my shirt pocket... :-) "
>
> Will it be sheathed in the "sacred-encrusted" pocket protector?
> Some day I will get to journey to Mecca...  But work comes first.
> So-sayeth my wife..  ;-)
>
> 73
> Mike
> K5JMP
> www.k5jmp.us
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging

[Mike Perryman]

Lee,
Later in this thread the WestMountain charge controller is referenced...
but.. I wanted to address your question directly.

I have been using a Xantrex C-35 solar charge controller (smart 4 level
charge controller) And 2 pair of big-honkin' diodes to accomplish the same
thing.  The diodes were directional control of current, and the charge is
routed through the Xantrex. While the repeater supply by-passed the
Xantrex..  (does that make sense to anyone?)  Both sides of the house are
one-way only through implementation of the big diodes...

As I mentioned before..  this was "cooked-up" prior to the WestMountain
controller.  I glanced at their product, and still need to research it a bit
further..  but for the price it is much cheaper than my Xantrex C-35
"cluge".
And quite elegant as well..  maybe I will be able to reclaim my solar
controller for little expenditure  :-)

Just my 2 cents worth..
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] back-up battery charging


I am now in charge of some club repeater sites which use the standard
Micor power supply. These have back-up batteries on them which are being
boiled dry by the 14.9V the power supply delivers,these supplies are not
the battery back-up versions. I am looking for a good solution to solve
this problem,maybe someone else has been there,done that??? Are there
adjustments to set the voltage on these beasts?  I thought about a
relay,some big diodes,but it looks ugly... 73,Lee





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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

"See you at IWCE and Dayton... I'm the guy with the pen 
in my shirt pocket... :-) "

Will it be sheathed in the "sacred-encrusted" pocket protector?
Some day I will get to journey to Mecca...  But work comes first.
So-sayeth my wife..  ;-)

73
Mike
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[Repeater-Builder] April AGL Digital issue<- several good articles

[Mike Perryman]

Begging the list owners pardon, I noticed several articles in Rich Biby's rag 
this month that address multiple discussions that occurred recently..  
grounding, selecting poly-phasors, phased antenna systems and batteries..  
etc..  
So I figured it couldn't hurt to pass the link along to the rest of the group.

I have no ties to the magazine, other than I occasionally work Rich during the 
VHF and up contests and have known him for over a decade.

 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us 


Subject: Your April AGL Digital issue has been delivered
"http://www.qmags.com/agl";

April Highlights include:
RF Hazard Protection Equipment 
Best Practices, Batteries and Backup Power Systems 
Cells Within Cells 
Generating Some Respect 
Grounding Practices for Wireless Telecom Sites 
Selecting Coaxial Lightning Protectors 
Strike Out Lightning With Single-point Grounding 
Accident Investigations: A Means to Improve Safety 







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for N connector jam nuts

[Mike Perryman]

I didn't hink about Joel over at RF-Connection.
He is a good honest vendor..  -->just my opinion..
I have no ties other than I order from him quite often.. and have never been
disappointed so far..
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 1:32 PM
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for N connector jam nuts


Don't know if you ever found any, but this place sells them for $0.25
each (just ran across it today while looking for something else):

http://users.erols.com/rfc/uhf.htm

Bob M.
==
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff DePolo WN3A"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I'm trying to find about 40 hex jam nuts for bulkhead N
connectors.  The
> thread on N connectors is 5/8-24, and most of the jam nuts are 3/4"
hex,
> roughly 1/8" thick.  I'm trying to find stainless steel.  I've
tried a
> number of places on line, including McMaster-Carr and others, but
came up
> empty at all but one place, and they quoted me $10.50 EACH!???!?
Anyone
> have a favorite vendor that they could recommend?
>
>   --- Jeff
>
> 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group

[Mike Perryman]

All better now...
Centos in combination with Apache is a great serving platform...  but VERY
ticky about publishing.  Forgot to use underscores instead of spaces in the
document title...
Anyway, it is good now.
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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well the link is hosed-up...  I am working on it now...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Tom,
For all interested in the Mitrek Lo-Band radio..  I have posted a PDF of the
entire manual (unfortunately the fold-outs are clipped, and will require
re-assembly) to my web-page.
http://65.173.252.47/Miktrek_Info.htm
Hopefully there will be no issues with Moto on this one as the manual has
been discontinued and is out of stock.
This is a BIG file...  15.3MB

I hope this helps someone...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group


Does anyone know if the Mitrek group is dead? Last time I posted over
there it took a while for it to come through, and I posted again 3-4
days ago and it has yet to come through. I don't want to tie up this
group with mitrek specific questions.

Thanks For Any Info!

Tom
W9SRV








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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group

[Mike Perryman]

well the link is hosed-up...  I am working on it now...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Tom,
For all interested in the Mitrek Lo-Band radio..  I have posted a PDF of the
entire manual (unfortunately the fold-outs are clipped, and will require
re-assembly) to my web-page.
http://65.173.252.47/Miktrek_Info.htm
Hopefully there will be no issues with Moto on this one as the manual has
been discontinued and is out of stock.
This is a BIG file...  15.3MB

I hope this helps someone...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group


Does anyone know if the Mitrek group is dead? Last time I posted over
there it took a while for it to come through, and I posted again 3-4
days ago and it has yet to come through. I don't want to tie up this
group with mitrek specific questions.

Thanks For Any Info!

Tom
W9SRV








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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group

[Mike Perryman]

Tom,
For all interested in the Mitrek Lo-Band radio..  I have posted a PDF of the
entire manual (unfortunately the fold-outs are clipped, and will require
re-assembly) to my web-page.
http://65.173.252.47/Miktrek_Info.htm
Hopefully there will be no issues with Moto on this one as the manual has
been discontinued and is out of stock.
This is a BIG file...  15.3MB

I hope this helps someone...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tgundo2003
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:21 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group


Does anyone know if the Mitrek group is dead? Last time I posted over
there it took a while for it to come through, and I posted again 3-4
days ago and it has yet to come through. I don't want to tie up this
group with mitrek specific questions.

Thanks For Any Info!

Tom
W9SRV








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RE: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a telewave meter?

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

What slugs??  I might buy it outright..  but don't have a telwave to trade..

73
Mike
K5JMP
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Subject: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a
telewave meter?


Trade a Bird 43 (with slugs) for a Telewave 44A Meter? 

Anyone interested in a meter trade? 

A Working Bird 43 meter (with some slugs) for a 
Telewave 44A Watt Meter. 

The deal can be sweeter than it looks at first glance. 
I have some nice extras for the meter deal depending 
on the condition of your "working" Telewave 44A Meter. 

Email me direct if you're seriously interested in 
working out a trade. 

thank you 
skipp 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] maggiore hi-pro rv4 220 squelch problem

[Mike Perryman]

It really is kind of funny... ;-)
mikey

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At 09:09 PM 04/08/06, you wrote:
>Mike Morris wrote:
>
> > not familiar with the Maggot squelch circuit) the squelch pot
>
>Maggot squelch circuit?  Freudian slip, Mike?  LOL!
>
>Nate WY0X

Eudora  Ver 7  spell checker changed Maggiore to Maggot !!!
Try it yourself !!!

ROTFL

Mike





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q-201G duplexer

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Eric,
I agree..  "on the money" usually equates to the maximum performace for your
intended application.  Unfortunately the result is not always within the
designed parameters of the cavity and performance from design specs suffers
slightly.
But if it suits your needs and performance is acceptable, why not?

73
Mike
K5JMP
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Ken,

I think the "stock answer" is the one to follow.  Actually, since the
bandpass tuning on a typical BpBr duplexer is rather broad, while the notch
tuning is very sharp, better results might be achieved by tuning the center
(bandpass) rod so that the notch is where you want it, rather than looking
for minimum attenuation of the pass frequency.  Moreover, the pass-to-notch
spacing does not always remain constant as the cavity rod is tuned.

I'm so used to using a network analyzer to tune a duplexer, that it wouldn't
occur to me to tune only half of the functions.  There's real satisfaction
in getting a duplexer exactly on the money.  I guess I don't understand why
the question was asked.  With the right equipment, a complete duplexer
tuning only takes a few minutes, so there's no great amount of time to be
saved by skipping part of the procedure.

I've tuned quite a few Sinclair Q-201 and Q-202 duplexers, and I find it
useful to tune each cavity separately before hooking them together.  Very
seldom is any tweaking needed.  As always, YMMV!

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q-201G duplexer

Hi folks

I know the "stock" answer, but I'm looking for the non-stock one :-) (and
yes, I've read the manual!).

But I was wondering (and checking my rationale here). in many Bp/Br
cavities, the notch tuning actually tunes to a certain freq above or below
the pass-tuned frequency. Therefore, if moving the duplexer a meg or two
but you maintain the same offset spacing, can you simply get away with
retuning the pass freq and, all other things being equal (port impedance,
etc), is that all that is needed?

Manuals always seem to talk about tuning but rarely (if ever) REtuning...

Ken

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

I 
wasn't trying to bash you..  just pointing out that it wasn't a very 
positive tactic..
Anyway, I hope your connectivity issue has been resolved.  And yes, 
there is a wealth of knowledge in this group.  Normally I don't post 
much..  but your comment just struck me as odd..
 
I did 
at least try to be cordial..
73MikeK5JMPwww.k5jmp.us

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of NonProfit 
  RadioSent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 6:06 PMTo: 
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  Connecting a repeater to a PBX
  On 4/9/06, Mike 
  Perryman K5JMP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  

Dear 
Sir,
You might want to 
re-state your previous comment..

 
"I guess 
this group quickly assumes the ->lowest common denominator<- when 
responding to technical inquiries. 
:( "
   (not primarily responding to the comment 
  above)Geez, the lowest common denominator I was referring to was 
  intelligence, not radio service. Many of the responses I got off list were 
  bashing me for allowing a ham repeater to be allowed "public access" via the 
  PBX. Something that I never stated. I got some lovely hate comments to my 
  initial post were "hey stupid, how are you going to stop Joe Unlicensed from 
  bootlegging on your repeater. The FCC is going to love you, jerk" types of 
  replies. I didn't know ham radio suffered from a low level of self 
  esteem to automatically assume the worst possible connotation in someone's 
  comments. I was told that this was a better list to ask my question than the 
  LMR list because there was a better level of expertise here. Instead, I get 
  abused by list members who assume ham radio is the center of the universe. 
  Enough about this. Thread closed, I'm done. I did appreciate the very 
  few civil and informative responses to my 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Dear 
Sir,
You 
might want to re-state your previous comment..
 
"I guess this group quickly assumes the ->lowest 
common denominator<- when responding to technical inquiries. 
:( "
 
While many of the folks who frequent this list are 
professional engineers working in the industry, be it Broadcast or LMR.  I 
might dare say the vast majority of us consider ourselves to be hams 
first.  In my own mind it is nice to be paid to enjoy my hobby for a 
living..  not the other way around!
 
Just a thought to consider...  good luck in your 
efforts.
-----Mike 
Perryman Cavell, Mertz 
& Davis, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
     Consulting 
Engineers<http://www.cmdconsulting.com>   
7839 Ashton AvenueK5JMP 
Manassas, VA 20109 USA(703) 392-9090; (703) 
392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110-
 

  -Original Message-From: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of NonProfit 
  RadioSent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 8:04 AMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Connecting a repeater to a PBXThe repeater is a 
  commercial repeater, not ham, of course. Sorry I didn't spell it out. Didn't 
  think it was necessary given the described situation of the proposed access. 
  This group caters to all repeater types and is not limited to just ham 
  repeaters. Many (most?) PBXs can restrict access to certain extensions 
  so that we can control who can access the repeater. This is an internal only 
  extension that is limited so that only a few internal extensions can call it. 
  Rather than set up a number of tone remotes, I'd prefer to use our 
  existing PBX because it affords us greater flexibility.I guess this 
  group quickly assumes the lowest common denominator when responding to 
  technical inquiries. :( 
  













  




  
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Aria-GLB preselector preamps.

[Mike Perryman]

Yep, me too.  I could use a pre-amp for my 6m machine.  But with the GLB box
spec'ed for 600kHz offset, it could be an issue for me.  My split is 5ookHz.
Response plots would be nice..
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Dengler
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:15 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Aria-GLB preselector preamps.


At 4/5/2006 09:22 AM, you wrote:
>Anybody familiar with this? I remember the old GLB units from waay
>back, and did not realize they were still/now available. I just
>requested pricing for a 220 unit. They spec it at 8db of gain, and 44
>db of rejection at the transmit frequency . Pretty darn good!
>http://www.aria-glb.com/products/reset_frames.htm?/products/preselector.htm

I'd sure like to know what the noise figure is - only gain & selectivity
specs are given, no NF.  If it's the same as
<http://www.simrex.com/site/products/preselector/Preselector1.pdf>, I'd
expect it to have a high NF.  Since this thing would typically be ahead of
any other preamps (if any), it would effectively set the NF of the RX
system.  A GaAsFET preamp is used, but if it's preceded by a filter with 8
dB of loss, the NF will be ~8.5 dB.

Bob NO6B







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[Repeater-Builder] RE:solid U-joints, was --> Birdies

[Mike Perryman]

Two reasons actually...
1) The units with no Zerk fitting are usually solid (ie. not cross drilled
to facilitate lubrication) and are therefore much stronger.
2) No lubrication (sealed) means they WILL be serviced.  Not fun, usually
the dealer or a trusted local guy gets the work...

Just my 2 cents...

BTW, I use solids in my '80 Vette drive train.  I haven't found a single
unit with the cross-drilled configuration that can stand-up to 570 ft-lbs of
torque, and 630 hp applied to the ground through a 4 speed.  Every once in a
while you just gotta embarrass the high-school kid in his 5 liter Mustang.
You know the "me too" cars. I usually invite them to the local drag strip
for an education   In front of all of their friends...

"I have a five liter Mustang.. "
"Me too"
"Mine has Flow-Master exhaust.."
    "Me too"

Get the picture...

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Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


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>>Hi John,

  ... snip ...


>>The drive shaft and 4wd front knuckle U-Joints without
>>grease fittings are/were my only complaint. I just had the
>>originals replaced with new Spicer units, which have the
>>much desired grease fittings.  Doesn't have anything to do with
>>the radio, but what the heck...

  Seems to me all new vehicles come without the Zerk (grease)
 fittings whenever the manufacturer can get away without installing
 them.  Just more of something to wear out - and replace costing
 you, the end user, more money.

  In every opportunity to do so, I always buy replacement parts
 with the Zerk fittings attached.

  Hope this helps,

  Neil - WA6KLA







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Favorite power swr bridge

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Same here..  Some look as though they have been dragged down the highway
from banging around in my truck for many years.  But they are just as
accurate as the newer ones that haven't a scratch.
Anytime I find one for under a hundred bucks...  I latch onto it.

73
Mike
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  Sure, I have used a Telewave ... but only when one of my Bird
 Model 43 Wattmeters wasn't convenient.

  My preference?  Bird Model 43 anytime.

  Neil - WA6KLA

  BTW, I have several of them too.


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>On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:26:45 -0500, Jay Urish wrote
>> Right now I have a Bird 4410.
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>> What does everybody think about the telewave units?
>> --
>> Jay Urish W5GM
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>Birds and the Telewaves are not SWR bridges, they're directional
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>I rarely use them.  The switch is a little flakey on one of the ones
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>even though it's only maybe 5 years old.  The other one is a little
>older,
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>I have several different flavors of Birds including 43's, 43P's, the
>digital
>4391A, etc.  Without fail, I always find myself grabbing one of the
>43's
>(call me a stubborn OF, but they just work).
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>The digital 4391 is nice, but as you might imagine, the battery is
>always
>dead at the most inopportune time.  I have a Bird 4410 at one of my
>clients'
>locations, and like it for what little time I've used it.
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>I have Coaxial Dynamics wattmeters of various types at broadcast
>sites, but
>generally speaking, if I'm the one doing the buying, I buy Bird.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] I'm Gettting Your Chase Bank Emails

[Mike Perryman]

Then it should be pretty obvious it is a scam...  I get them too, and just
delete them.
mike

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Richard D. Reese wrote:
> Same here.  I think it is because they bought Bank One and switched the
old
> bankone.com web and internet banking to chase.com on the 26th of March.  I
> guess the Scammers hope to get people to give away their log-in
> information...

What REALLY gets me about this is I don't even HAVE a Chase/Bank One
account!
heh
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Cushcraft going away..?

[Mike Perryman]

Yup,  I have heard the same thing..  but it related only to yagi type
antennas..
It was from a pretty reliable source.
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Mike Perryman
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Cushcraft going away..?

Top secret of course...

Anyone heard if the rumor about Cushcraft pulling the plug?  Don't let
me be the one to let the word get out.  It's just a rumor at this
point in time.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR coax

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Tim,
The only issue I have had is that if you get any moisture between the braid
and foil shield..  you will soon have the "million diode marching band"
serenading your receiver in a duplex environment.  It happened to a guy just
South of here when a hunk was used in a duplexer harness a while back.
Replaced the jumper and all was well again...

Also the braid is aluminum, so it is pretty fragile to any twisting etc
where it attaches to a connector.  Also makes it somewhat difficult to
solder to.  Use the crimp-on style connectors from www.Fab-Corp.com and
provide some kind of stress relief to the connector.  Try not to nick the
center conductor when you strip it back as it is copper-clad aluminum.

I a simplex environment...  I love it!

OT-->Anybody going to play in the 2m sprint tonight?

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us

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Recently there were some negative comments about the LMR coax.  I have not
used it before but was curious what problems others may have encountered
while using it.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] This ought to keep you busy - Amazing Jigsaw Puzzle

[Mike Perryman]

Neil,
It took about 1.5 minutes...  it is cute though!
mike

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  Ok ... 

  Neil

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone here who can answer a question about cabling?

[Mike Perryman]

Terry,
If you are using LMR for feed-line you will most likely have trouble
eventually.  But the problem you described sounds more like static
electricity build-up..  read this article..


mike


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I had a question from a friend which I can't answer ... I've never
heard what he's referring to. Is there anyone here who can confirm or
correct this:

"One of our local repeaters has a popping noise that gets severe
during high wind conditions.  I have "heard" that LMR type coax can
cause this noise. Various reasons have been discussed including the
dis- similar metels between the inner and outer shield, also nicking
the copper clad on the center conductor.  I am told this condition
only occurs on a repeater using the same coax for Rx and Tx. The
repeater in question has a very clear signal when transmitting, the
noise only comes on while receiving a signal, both with and without
modulation.  This leads me to susspect the "dis-similar metals" theory."

I'd appreciate any insight you may have on the question, preferably
directly to me

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Thanks 
Eric,
I will 
get that one ordered...  the washing machine relay thing has always 
bothered me!  Just not into hillbilly engineering if there is a better 
way...  and once again you come through with the goods!
73MikeK5JMPwww.k5jmp.us

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  Lance,
   
  The manual you seek is still in print, and is available from Motorola 
  Parts for $ 5.61.  It is publication 6881104E92.  It covers the 
  TPN1105A and TPN1106A power supplies, as well as the optional battery 
  protection and alarm system.  And yes, the battery connects directly to 
  the same large Jones terminals as the PA.
   
  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY 
  
  
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  Supply help needed
  
  I am looking for information on the Micor station 
  " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. This unit has a large cast 
  aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis 
  as well. This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as 
  powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these 
  supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? 
  Anyone have a print or any info?\
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Lance,
I have 
one as well, never have been able to find out much though.  Yes, the 
batteries attach across the main output.  Somewhere inside there is a 
voltage adjustment that you set according to battery specs.  A switch on 
the back labeled float (normal position) and equalize (highr charge voltage, to 
equalize the batts)...   I have also been told there is a function for 
outputting a beep to the audio to indicate loss of mains...  but can't 
verify any of this.  It doesn't appear in any of my manuals...   
So mine sits dormant, and I use a Xantrex C-35 and solar array...  mains go 
and washing machine relay un-latches to engagde batts  
hillbilly-hombrew kind of thing!
 
Did 
you ever locate the manual for the S-1323A Deviation Meter / Sinadder?  I 
never heard back...
73MikeK5JMPwww.k5jmp.us

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  I am looking for information on the Micor station 
  " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. This unit has a large cast 
  aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis 
  as well. This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as 
  powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these 
  supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Just needed to know what split it was before I hang it on a 2m machine the
club owns.  But thanks..

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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  Do you want one?  Or just how to connect it up?

  Neil

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>Neil,
>Sorry, I'm afraid not.  I have a ancient manual for VHF..  but that
>PA isn't
>in it.
>73
>Mike
>K5JMP
>www.k5jmp.us
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>>Yup, me too...  speaking of..  I dug this cont-duty PA out of the
>>shed.
>>Makes good power on 2m..  but have no idea what split it is supposed
>>to be.
>>I need to get it into service as the Mirage has crapped-out...
>>
>>Stamped TLD-1692D1 on the ear of the chassis.  The board has a
>>barcode of
>>TLD9392A.
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>>I am pretty sure it is VHF, but anybody got an idea of what split?
>>My manual is s old, that it is chisled on stone tablets, and
>this
>>number
>>doesn't appear.  Closest match was TLD1690A.. 132-150MHz split.
>>
>>73
>>Mike
>>K5JMP
>>www.k5jmp.us
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>> more than fuses and a few miscellaneous parts ... nothing to try
>> to build something with.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Neil,
Sorry, I'm afraid not.  I have a ancient manual for VHF..  but that PA isn't
in it.
73
Mike
K5JMP
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  Hey Mike,

  Do you have a copy of the manual on that PA deck?

  Neil

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>Yup, me too...  speaking of..  I dug this cont-duty PA out of the
>shed.
>Makes good power on 2m..  but have no idea what split it is supposed
>to be.
>I need to get it into service as the Mirage has crapped-out...
>
>Stamped TLD-1692D1 on the ear of the chassis.  The board has a
>barcode of
>TLD9392A.
>
>I am pretty sure it is VHF, but anybody got an idea of what split?
>My manual is s old, that it is chisled on stone tablets, and this
>number
>doesn't appear.  Closest match was TLD1690A.. 132-150MHz split.
>
>73
>Mike
>K5JMP
>www.k5jmp.us
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Thanks Eric,
I thought there was a reason it was hidden so well...  unfortunately a
couple of the caps are blistered..  but that is an easy fix.
Thanks again,

73
Mike
K5JMP
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Mike,

Here's the split breakdown:
TLD1692  132-150.8 MHz
TLD1693  150.8-162 MHz
TLD1694  162-174 MHz

Don't let that PA out of your hands, it's the ideal unit for 2m.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest

Yup, me too...  speaking of..  I dug this cont-duty PA out of the shed.
Makes good power on 2m..  but have no idea what split it is supposed to be.
I need to get it into service as the Mirage has crapped-out...

Stamped TLD-1692D1 on the ear of the chassis.  The board has a barcode of
TLD9392A.

I am pretty sure it is VHF, but anybody got an idea of what split?
My manual is s old, that it is chisled on stone tablets, and this number
doesn't appear.  Closest match was TLD1690A.. 132-150MHz split.

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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  Seems to me, the last time I visited a RS store, there wasn't
 more than fuses and a few miscellaneous parts ... nothing to try
 to build something with.

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 I have visited in years.

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[Repeater-Builder] name that PA contest

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Yup, me too...  speaking of..  I dug this cont-duty PA out of the shed.
Makes good power on 2m..  but have no idea what split it is supposed to be.
I need to get it into service as the Mirage has crapped-out...

Stamped TLD-1692D1 on the ear of the chassis.  The board has a barcode of
TLD9392A.

I am pretty sure it is VHF, but anybody got an idea of what split?
My manual is s old, that it is chisled on stone tablets, and this number
doesn't appear.  Closest match was TLD1690A.. 132-150MHz split.

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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  Seems to me, the last time I visited a RS store, there wasn't
 more than fuses and a few miscellaneous parts ... nothing to try
 to build something with.

  My 'junque box' has way more stuff parts wise than any RS store
 I have visited in years.

  Neil - WA6KLA







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Finally, a simple explanation of how a computer works

[Mike Perryman]

Yup,  he is also one of the editor/sysops for the Repeater-Builder
webpage...
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


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computer works



  Now we know what Mike Morris, WA6ILQ, does with his time between
 answering e-mail on the Repeater-Builder remailer.


  This really takes the mystery out of how your computer works and
 will help those who feel they are totally computer illiterate:

  http://www.newportharbor.us/computerworks.htm

  You are welcome Mike,

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Any chance of picking up one of the snazzy tie-dye T-shirts?

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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Jim B. wrote:
> So, I realize it's a bit early yet, but with all this talk of Dayton, 
> what kinds of things should we hope to see at the RB table?

Repeaters

Repeaters...

Repeaters...

Oh, and did I mention Repeaters

And   Repeater stuff,  lots of repeater stuff...
lots and lots of repeater stuff

Repeater Builder Antennas
AP-50's
Micor stuff
Mastr II stuff
maybe some hats...








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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT..Kind of..Flat Bed Scanner Opinions Sought

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Take 
them to Kinko's...  they have Canon "Image-Runners"  iR330... you can 
define a custom page size, and the are fast!  Up to 1200dpi.  It will 
cost a few bucks, but it is worth it.  Forget trying to stitch the images 
back together...  "Xerox stretch" is almost impossible to correct.  We 
used to have a Canon...  but Capitol Copiers got stupid on the 
lease.
73MikeK5JMPwww.k5jmp.us

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Micheal 
  SalemSent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:26 PMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  OT..Kind of..Flat Bed Scanner Opinions SoughtRobin: Scanners that do larger than letter or legal are not 
  going to be both inexpensive and fast.   I have an HP3c 
  (legal), HP4c (legal), HP6350 (letter), and a Fujitsu 4120c (sheet fed), and a 
  Fujitsu 4220c (sheet fed with a letter size flat bed) not to mention a variety 
  of Visioneer Strobe Pro scanners.The Fujitsu's are fast (20 ppm at 300 
  dpi) and will do double sided pages.  The HP's are slow  (about 2 
  ppm at 300 dpi and mine have the HP ADF's (I may have an extra HP ADF if 
  somebody needs one).  The problem is that scanning long pages and 
  piecing them together in Paperport or some other program is very difficult and 
  tedious.  I started looking for a larger scanner to do tabloid 
  size (11 x 17).  The only reasonably priced scanner that I found was a 
  Mustek A3 USB.  They go for about $170.00 plus shipping on 
  e-bay.   It will do 300 dpi and can also do 600 x 300 (I think). 
  It is slow (maybe 25 seconds or more, I have not timed it), but does a 
  good job.  It will interface with Paperport and other programs.  It 
  comes with a scan monitor that comes up when you select scan.  It is 
  simple to install.  I have used it to copy manuals.  Some of the 
  Motorola manuals with pages larger than tabloid are not always all one 
  diagram, but instead are pieces and I scan those into tabloid size 
  pieces.  Sometimes the schematics just have to be scanned in two pieces 
  and I don't put them back together. I can print tabloid black and 
  white because I have an HP5000 laser printer.  It is a 1200 dpi tabloid 
  printer with full duplexer and can print on both sides of the page.  
  I even used the Mustek to scan some x-rays and I opened the top and 
  put a small diffuse light about 2 feet above it.  The X-Rays came through 
  pretty good.  (I also have a Nu-Arc light table, but it is too heavy to 
  turn upside down and put it on the scanner.  There are three on 
  e-bay right now.  If somebody has another suggestion, I would be interested, but the 
  Mustek is fairly simple, just slow, but not as slow as scanning in two pieces 
  and putting them together.  Micheal Salem 
  N5MSRobin Midgett wrote:
  Hi,
I have a significant collection of service manuals for various 
commercial two-way radios which I'd like to scan into Adobe Acrobat 
and make available via the Repeater Builder web site. The makes and 
models include RCA 500, 700 & 1000 VHF & UHF, and G.E. models from 
MASTR Exec through MASTRIII, Phoenix, MVS, and others.
I'd like recommendations on flat bed scanners suitable for scanning 
these documents. I have two now that use the USB interface, but 
they're slow, and they only accommodate 8-1/2" x 11" paper. A 
relatively fast scanner with a larger surface (for those fold out 
sheets) would be nice. I suspect someone on the list knows of such a 
machine that they'd recommend.

P.S. Purely as a preemptive measure, please don't ping me for a list 
of the manuals I have available just yet. I haven't gotten that far 
into organizing them. Rest assured I'll be offering them to the ham 
community later this year.

Flat bed scanner recommendations, anyone?

Thanks,
Robin Midgett K4IDC
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RE: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding Bandpass Can to Duplexer

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Dwayne,
I have a HP-8753E, and a HP8753C..  bring your toys to Manassas during
business hours, and we can take a look at it.

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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Subject: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding Bandpass Can to Duplexer


Herold,

I agree that it would be a ton easier with a network analyzer.

What happened in my case was the loop in the PD-1173 can was about
8.5 inches long (8.5" down and 8.5" back up). It seemed that was way
longer as compared to what was seen in other bandpass cans. After
reading the theory page on Repeater-Builder from John Portune W6NBC,
he says it really doesn't matter the size or shape of the loop (as
far as the response goes).

But as you mentioned, the loop length DOES effect the jumper length
required.

So after taking a few other bandpass cans apart and measuring their
loops, I decided to cut the PD loops down to 3.5 inches. This allowed
the jumpers that were the same length as on the duplexer to give a
good match.

In the end, it was a lot of reading, followed by some good
suggestions from this group (and recognizing the need for a network
anlyzer).

Dwayne Kincaid
WD8OYG




>
> Not exactly right.
>
> The length of the cable between the pass cavity and a notch or pass
> reject cavity has to be 1/4 wave length including the length of the
> loop in the bandpass cavity and that is why the cable lengths are
> different for different cavity brands that have different loop
sizes.
>
> If the length of that cable is too short for the mounting
arrangement,
> then add 1/2 wavelength (in cable) to that short cable.
>
> With a Network analyser, one can see that the length is optimised by
> viewing the effects of different cable lengths with respect to the
> effect of the total return loss, insertion loss, the bandpass
response
> (whether it adds properly as opposed to having 2 pass bumps with a
dip
> in the middle like a camel) and the effect of the individual tuning
of
> the cavities.  With the proper length cable, one can tune the
cavities
> individually and when placed together, the tuning is not effected.
> With the wrong lengths, the tuning of the cavities is affected.
>
> I am not familiar with those products mentioned but in Sinclair top
> mounted loops between a Q can and a Pass can, the length is 3 to 4"
> similar to the feedthrough harness end connection length.
>
> Life is easier with a Network Analyser.
>
> Harold
>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mouse-tr II chassis - free

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Jeff,
Pull the cabling harnesses out, and throw it in the dishwasher..  I used to
do that with old Collins gear when I worked in radio repair.  You just gotta
be careful how much dishwashing detergent you use...  not fun when all the
resistor bands disappear!  Do it right and it will come out looking new.
This is a prime example from last summer...

A guy in Oklahoma paid 900 bucks for the thing!!

Folks would be surprised at some of the methods we used on the old AN-VRC
series radios.

You can't do that with the plastic gear today...
Seems that was a lifetime ago...  dem wuz da daze!!!

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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Jeff, Sounds like a good piece for recycling.  You should be able to get a
couple of bucks from the metal recycle guys.

Vincent N6OA
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>
> I have a Mastr II chassis that apparently a group of mice were living in
> without permission and without paying rent (is there such a thing as a
> mouse crack house?).  Anyway, if anyone wants it, let me know before
> before 10 PM EST tonight else it goes out for the morning trash.  It's
> just the chassis, backplane, door, harness, speaker, etc., no PA, no
> cards in the shelf, no exciter, no receiver, no system board, no lid.
> And it's anything but clean.
>
> --- Jeff
>
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RE: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two-Way Radio Shop

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Brautwerst, brotchen and beer..  yummies!!  Makes me think of my time in
Germany...
Oh yeah, was in the signal corps..  Army MARS and all that...  does that
count?  
73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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> "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was going to make the trip this year since I have
> inherited a now bankrupt two way shop, don't know
> now.  I guess I will but I really don't like it!
> Paul

What caused the shop to go bankrupt..?

Someone once told me not to try and make serious money
in Ham Radio (for a number of now obvious reasons). A
number of the flea market spaces are held by people
trying to make a living fliping radios, used computers
and surplus electronics.  Don't forget the bootleg
computer programs...

In case anyone hasn't noticed there's a serious
glut of used electronics and dead cars in the US.

The people now going to Dayton... are there for some of
the better reasons renewed.  To have fun, meet people,
see new products, meet up with friends, sell a few used
things in the parking lot, selling some new products in
the parking lot as well as getting the word out about
new products.   F

Not to mention the brauts and fine seating in the
ice rink...

cheers,
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] mystery board...

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

A cardboard box that I haven't opened in about 5 yrs  !

mike

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  A low-band something ... TLB tells you that. 

  What did you get it out of? 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:23:29 -0500

>Hi folks,
>I have a mystery board for which I can find no reference.  It is
>aTLB4390B2,
>about 2.5 inches square.  
>For the Moto Guru's the 84 number is 84C84  87IKDI  DAB
>Anybody got a clue?
>
>73
>Mike
>K5JMP
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] mystery board...

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Yup,
Been floating around so long that I can't seem to remember where it came
from...
I am a confirmed low-band nut... this link holds the proof!
<http://65.173.252.47/Field_Day_2005/Field_Day_2005.htm>
73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us
"There's no band, like low band"

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The "B" sez it's lo-band ...
what kind of box did it come from?  (err.. cardboard ?)  ;-)



Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote:

> I have a mystery board for which I can find no reference.  It is
aTLB4390B2,
> about 2.5 inches square.
> For the Moto Guru's the 84 number is 84C84  87IKDI  DAB
> Anybody got a clue?






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[Repeater-Builder] mystery board...

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Hi folks,
I have a mystery board for which I can find no reference.  It is aTLB4390B2,
about 2.5 inches square.  
For the Moto Guru's the 84 number is 84C84  87IKDI  DAB
Anybody got a clue?

73
Mike
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Courtesy Tone

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Andrew,
I found it using google...

Stardust
E1:   120 ms   750 Hz 0 Hz  %Gain =99 0
E2:80 ms   880 Hz 0 Hz  %Gain =99 0
E3:80 ms  1200 Hz   880 Hz  %Gain =50 0

73
Mike
K5JMP
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Does anybody know the tone scheme for the "Stardust" courtesy tone on 
the ACC controllers? It is CT #5 on the RC-85. I have it on my RC-85 
and would like to set it up on my RC-850... Thanks for any input.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] painting antenna

[Mike Perryman]

That 
was covered yesterday

SHERWIN-WILLIAMS PRODUCTS:
> >>
> >> Etch P60G2 "Wash Primer"
> >> Primer D61H75 "Polane 2.8 Plus Spray Fil"
> >> Top Coat Polane Type "HS 2.8 Plus Polyurethane"
> >>

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of chris 
  InosSent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:49 PMTo: 
  repeater-builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] 
  painting antenna
  would like to paint a cellwave stationmaster...any recommendation as to 
  what would be a fitting paint and where to procure it?
  thanks
  chris
  
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Canadian retailer of coaxial cables

[Mike Perryman]

Brad,

I don't know of anyone in Canada..  I can however tell you that Joel over at
RF-Connection stocks it..  I bought about 40 ft of it several months back.
And it ain't cheap!
<http://users.erols.com/rfc/index1.htm>

 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


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Anybody in here know of a retailer in Canada that sells
RG-142U coaxial cable. This is a double shielded cable
that is about the size of RG-58 ?


Thanks
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] More (mostly) free stuff.

[Mike Perryman]

Yep, 
me too (needed band-pass filters) for a different project,  and they 
were gone before I could type the message...  there are some fast folks 
around here.
 

 73 Mike 
Perryman www.k5jmp.us 


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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ronny 
  JulianSent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:45 AMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  More (mostly) free stuff.
  You would understand if you read it.  
  Shipping cost $$.  The items were free and were snapped up about 3 mins 
  before I could get an email out darn it!  Need a Duplexer for GMRS!  
  
  
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:43 
AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More 
(mostly) free stuff.
did not see anything free there , unless it went to da 
curb.or is that a private list ?ldgelectronics wrote: 
Hi folks. More cleaning and more (mostly) free stuff. Contact me off 
the list to make arrangements.

Three UHF (440 to 470 MHz) band pass cavity. About 19" high and 5.5" 
diameter. UHF connectors, no adjustments except pass freq. Looks to 
have a about 0.75 db loss per can. One can has a split at the seam but 
could be soldered back with a propane torch (or really big iron). $10 
to ship each or $25 for all three.

ComSpec TS-32P. Pulled from working unit, but no longer needed. $5 to 
ship.

I still have a handful of the LM386 audio PC boards. Get 5 for $1 for 
shipping.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000

[Mike Perryman]

Have you looked on the Batlabs site?
http://www.batlabs.com/
 73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us


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I am trying to put togather a 900Mhz rptr in the ham band. What do I 
have to do to get the MTR2000 to program in this split. Also I'm going 
to use some MTX9000 portables on this system what do I have to do to 
get theese radios to program in this split also. Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.









 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] More (mostly) free stuff.

[Mike Perryman]

I will take all 3 UHF cans..  if they are still available
 73
Mike Perryman
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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:56 PM
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] More (mostly) free stuff.


Hi folks. More cleaning and more (mostly) free stuff. Contact me off 
the list to make arrangements.

Three UHF (440 to 470 MHz) band pass cavity. About 19" high and 5.5" 
diameter. UHF connectors, no adjustments except pass freq. Looks to 
have a about 0.75 db loss per can. One can has a split at the seam but 
could be soldered back with a propane torch (or really big iron). $10 
to ship each or $25 for all three.

ComSpec TS-32P. Pulled from working unit, but no longer needed. $5 to 
ship.

I still have a handful of the LM386 audio PC boards. Get 5 for $1 for 
shipping.

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[Repeater-Builder] FW: [rc210] Power sensor

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Figured I would post it over here as well...

Other folks looking for Moto thru-line adapters on the RC-210 group...
anybody got excess thru-line adapters?

73
Mike
K5JMP
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>  -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:03 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [rc210] Power sensor
> 
> Mark,
> Sorry...  Mike WA6ILQ has already asked for it.  Keep your eyes on eBay...
> they show up every once in a while.  Wish I had more of them to share, but
> parts have been flying out of here pretty quick lately!! 
> 
> Could I interest anyone in a 1/4kW 6m PA of the GE variety? It will be
> pick-up only in Stafford, VA. I may also have a 1/4 kW UHF /\/\oto variety
> PA leaving if someone has something of interest to trade  I am
> currently seeking 900 gear for a repeater.
> 73
> Mike
> K5JMP
> www.k5jmp.us
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Mark Phillips
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [rc210] Power sensor
> 
> 
> How much for the HF one? I've a 6 mter machine I could use it on.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark, G7LTT/KC2ENI
> Randolph, NJ
> http://www.g7ltt.com
> 
> 
> Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote:
> > Paul,
> >  
> > I have 2 left...  one is 500-1000MHZ @ 50W (TRN5323A) currently slated 
> > for a 900 repeater, and one 25-100MHz @ 100W (no number on low-band 
> > unit).  I am willing to let go of the low-band unit, just sorry it 
> > doesn't fit your needs..  Keep an eye on the 'Bay..  they generally go 
> > pretty cheap. Sometimes you can find them in a rack panel configuration 
> > for around 70-100 bucks.  Then all you have to do is tap the rotary 
> > switch for the appropriate reading, and calibrate the RC-210 "meter
> face".
> >  I guess I should have bid on the set (portable  meter and full 
> > assortment of adapters) that I saw go past about 2 months ago.  I recall
> 
> > it went for less than 80 bucks for the whole shooting match.  You might 
> > also check on the repeater-builder list...  lots of "/\/\oto-heads" over
> 
> > there...
> > Good luck,
> > 
> > 73
> > Mike
> > K5JMP
> > www.k5jmp.us
> > 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

I wouldn't say they are worthless..  but 1200 bucks was a little on the
steep side.  I bought 4 complete low-band Micor stations for 30 bucks plus
shipping each.  And they had the continous duty PA's (which is pretty much
what I was paying for, meaning the PA).

Speaking of...  Mike Morris..  do you want one of the chassis'?  Let me
know.. direct please.

I also have a couple of extra power supplys I would let go of pretty cheap
to clear some room in the shack.  I haven't even plugged them in, so I have
no idea what kind of shape the caps are in...   did I mention cheap?

A six can duplexer just sold for a pretty hefty sum, but it was
brand-spankin' new, and the correct banding.

I would try taking offers on the individual pieces...  If you don't get any
reasonable offers you might even try...  lord forgive me...  eBay.  Shipping
the cans will be a nightmare though.

Trading up to a real duplexer from heliax notches would have been nice, but
I am about hip deep in a 900MHz machine now.  Good luck on your endeavors..
73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 3:27 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set
> ($1200), and I have been informed that everything else is pretty much
> worthless except for the duplexer. So, I have decided to scrap the
> hardline and the antenna, trash the repeater and take offers on the
> cans. If your interested, tell me what you'll give me for the cans.
> Email for pictures.

If it's a true repeater station, I don't think your repeater PA is
worthless.  Boards for the station for 6m are a dime-a-dozen from
mobiles, but a real station PA for 6m is not always common to find.  You
might want to hang onto that to sell.

Nate WY0X





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Very interesting adaptation for tuning...  I may have to investigate further
with this approach!
73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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Hi

yes be interested in seeing the spec analyser plots.
I really need to get one built for me, I don't have the gear or cable etc to
make one. I did ages ago play about with a couple of lenghts of 1 5/8 heliax
but it was a failure.
Iam testing at present using 2 aerials it works but this is purely
for tests. I don't mind paying  a fair price

73

Steve
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer


> Hi Steve,
>
> The GB3FH repeater in Somerset is using a heliax duplexer and it is truly
> excellent!
>
> If you like I can send you the plots from the analyser that shows the
> performance of the duplexer, they are only small jpegs - don't think I can
> send them to the list as I think it strips attachments.
>
> Also, have a look at the web site www.gb3fh.org.uk for some photos from
the
> chap who made our duplexer - he made some mods that make it much easier to
> tune and build
>
> Matt
> G4RKY
> GB3FH keeper
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> From: "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer
>
>
> Hii
> thanks for info, I will have another try, time permiting.
>
> 73
>
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robin Midgett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer
>
>
> > That's the same split (500 kc) as WB5WPA designed the heliax duplexer
> > forthere shouldn't be any reason it won't work in the U.K.
> >
> > At 05:42 AM 3/18/2006, you wrote:
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >yes Iam runmning 500Kc split 51.250 rx and 50.750 tx that is what the
> > >powers that be in the UK issue
> > >
> > >73
> > >
> > >Steve
> > >- Original Message -
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> > >To: 
> > >Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:42 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer
> > >
> > >
> > > > The Heliax duplexer works great with a 1 mhz Split... but I think he
> is
> > > > Running a 500Khz split
> > > >   He will need  either a higher Q type can  Or more than 6 Heliax's
> for
> > > > the isolation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dick wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Steve:
> > > > >
> > > > >A friend built one of trhese heliax 6 m duplexers and swears by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >73,
> > > > >
> > > > >Dick
> > > > >
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> > > > >Sent: 15 March, 2006 13:33
> > > > >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi
> > > > >can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home
> > > > >made heliax one. Tx freq is 50.750 Rx 51.250
> > > > >I did play with a heliax one and it was a lot of trouble, going off
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Hey Dick,
I can't say that I swear by them...  but the price certainly is right.  And
the performance isn't bad if you are judicious in construction.  Like I said
earlier...  50 bucks for a 6m duplexer is a HUGE bargain..  If I had my
druthers, I would use Wacom cans.  But I already have a second mortgage
...

Did anyone investigate Sam's website.  In my earlier post there was a link
to my page...  and my page has a link to Sam Kennedy's website.  He built a
set of helical filters..

I would be curious if anyone else has tried this approach.  And what the
results were...

73
Mike
K5JMP
www.k5jmp.us


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dick
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:16 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer


Steve:

A friend built one of trhese heliax 6 m duplexers and swears by it.

73,

Dick

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 15 March, 2006 13:33
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer


Hi
can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home
made heliax one. Tx freq is 50.750 Rx 51.250
I did play with a heliax one and it was a lot of trouble, going off tune,
causing desense etc,etc. Big problem is Iam in the UK
and prices are very expensive, around 900 UK pounds.


Thanks

Steve









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