Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

2010-07-15 Thread Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694

It appears my L button doesn't work half the time, guess I need to
take my keyboard apart and clean it.

Jeff


On 7/16/2010, kb1sph kb1...@wqex694.info wrote:


Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit.  I've found the
instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after
reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great.  But there's nothing
about DCS.  I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I
need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS
information.  Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine
and then look at it.  So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a
EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read
the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send
me a copy.

Thanks,
Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

2010-07-15 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jeff,

I suspect you may be headed for disappointment.  CTCSS (PL) and CDCSS (DPL)
are handled differently within the radio.  While the former is audio, albeit
sub-audible, the latter requires a DC connection to the modulator in order
to create the DCS signal at a 134.4 Hz rate.  In other words the CTCSS
hardware will not work for CDCSS.  Perhaps some readers who have TKR-820
stations with CDCSS capability can advise you about the modifications and/or
optional modules that are necessary to handle DCS.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kb1...@wqex694.info
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

  


Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the 
instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after 
reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing 
about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I 
need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS 
information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine 
and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a 
EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read 
the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send 
me a copy. 

Thanks, 
Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694






Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

2010-07-15 Thread Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694
Ok, let me make it a little more clear for anybody that might not have 
understood the first message.  (No offense intended Eric)

A Kenwood TKR-820 repeater has CTCSS and DCS encoding and decoding built 
into it with an on-board controller.  The configuration is stored in a 
EEPROM chip, 93C46 (or 93LC46).

What I'm trying to do is figure out how to change the configuration without 
using the expensive Kenwood programmers, unfortunately this one isn't just a 
simple cable.

I have a serial EEPROM reader/writer, so I used instructions found in the 
repeater-builder archives at 
http://www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg63481.html 
to modify the configuration for the ctcss tones.  Unfortunately, the person 
who wrote that article didn't figure out the DCS configuration.

So I'm hoping that someone who has a TKR-820 already configured for DCS has 
the ability to read the EEPROM chip as well and send me a copy.

I hope that clears it up a little more.

Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694


--
From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

 Jeff,

 I suspect you may be headed for disappointment.  CTCSS (PL) and CDCSS 
 (DPL)
 are handled differently within the radio.  While the former is audio, 
 albeit
 sub-audible, the latter requires a DC connection to the modulator in order
 to create the DCS signal at a 134.4 Hz rate.  In other words the CTCSS
 hardware will not work for CDCSS.  Perhaps some readers who have TKR-820
 stations with CDCSS capability can advise you about the modifications 
 and/or
 optional modules that are necessary to handle DCS.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kb1...@wqex694.info
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:03 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM




 Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the
 instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after
 reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing
 about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I
 need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS
 information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine
 and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a
 EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read
 the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send
 me a copy.

 Thanks,
 Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694






 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

2010-07-15 Thread DCFluX
Hey, I didn't need DCS at the time.

Looks like TX code is at 80-81 Hex, and RX code is 82-83

81 EC = D023N
81 E6 = D026N

What DCS code do you need?

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694
kb1...@wqex694.info wrote:
 Ok, let me make it a little more clear for anybody that might not have
 understood the first message.  (No offense intended Eric)

 A Kenwood TKR-820 repeater has CTCSS and DCS encoding and decoding built
 into it with an on-board controller.  The configuration is stored in a
 EEPROM chip, 93C46 (or 93LC46).

 What I'm trying to do is figure out how to change the configuration without
 using the expensive Kenwood programmers, unfortunately this one isn't just a
 simple cable.

 I have a serial EEPROM reader/writer, so I used instructions found in the
 repeater-builder archives at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg63481.html
 to modify the configuration for the ctcss tones.  Unfortunately, the person
 who wrote that article didn't figure out the DCS configuration.

 So I'm hoping that someone who has a TKR-820 already configured for DCS has
 the ability to read the EEPROM chip as well and send me a copy.

 I hope that clears it up a little more.

 Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694


 --
 From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:24 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

 Jeff,

 I suspect you may be headed for disappointment.  CTCSS (PL) and CDCSS
 (DPL)
 are handled differently within the radio.  While the former is audio,
 albeit
 sub-audible, the latter requires a DC connection to the modulator in order
 to create the DCS signal at a 134.4 Hz rate.  In other words the CTCSS
 hardware will not work for CDCSS.  Perhaps some readers who have TKR-820
 stations with CDCSS capability can advise you about the modifications
 and/or
 optional modules that are necessary to handle DCS.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kb1...@wqex694.info
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:03 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM




 Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the
 instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after
 reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing
 about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I
 need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS
 information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine
 and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a
 EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read
 the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send
 me a copy.

 Thanks,
 Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694






 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

2010-07-15 Thread DCFluX
Scratch that 00-01 is TX, 02-03 is RX

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:35 PM, DCFluX dcf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey, I didn't need DCS at the time.

 Looks like TX code is at 80-81 Hex, and RX code is 82-83

 81 EC = D023N
 81 E6 = D026N

 What DCS code do you need?

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694
 kb1...@wqex694.info wrote:
 Ok, let me make it a little more clear for anybody that might not have
 understood the first message.  (No offense intended Eric)

 A Kenwood TKR-820 repeater has CTCSS and DCS encoding and decoding built
 into it with an on-board controller.  The configuration is stored in a
 EEPROM chip, 93C46 (or 93LC46).

 What I'm trying to do is figure out how to change the configuration without
 using the expensive Kenwood programmers, unfortunately this one isn't just a
 simple cable.

 I have a serial EEPROM reader/writer, so I used instructions found in the
 repeater-builder archives at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg63481.html
 to modify the configuration for the ctcss tones.  Unfortunately, the person
 who wrote that article didn't figure out the DCS configuration.

 So I'm hoping that someone who has a TKR-820 already configured for DCS has
 the ability to read the EEPROM chip as well and send me a copy.

 I hope that clears it up a little more.

 Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694


 --
 From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:24 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

 Jeff,

 I suspect you may be headed for disappointment.  CTCSS (PL) and CDCSS
 (DPL)
 are handled differently within the radio.  While the former is audio,
 albeit
 sub-audible, the latter requires a DC connection to the modulator in order
 to create the DCS signal at a 134.4 Hz rate.  In other words the CTCSS
 hardware will not work for CDCSS.  Perhaps some readers who have TKR-820
 stations with CDCSS capability can advise you about the modifications
 and/or
 optional modules that are necessary to handle DCS.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kb1...@wqex694.info
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:03 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM




 Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the
 instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after
 reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing
 about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I
 need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS
 information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine
 and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a
 EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read
 the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send
 me a copy.

 Thanks,
 Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694






 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

2010-07-15 Thread Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694
Well I'm not particularly needing any one code at the moment, just trying to 
figure out how exactly to figure out the hex codes.

Thanks for the great tutorial on the rest.  It makes it easy to change the 
config when I want instead of having to call someone with a programmer.  Now 
if I can find a connector that goes into the socket on top of the display 
board I could just wire up a connection to the ICSP connector on my board 
and make it easier for the frequencies.

This information should be put on the repeater-builder web site if it's not 
already.  I couldn't find it, but maybe I didn't look close enough.

Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694


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From: DCFluX dcf...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:35 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

 Hey, I didn't need DCS at the time.

 Looks like TX code is at 80-81 Hex, and RX code is 82-83

 81 EC = D023N
 81 E6 = D026N

 What DCS code do you need?

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694
 kb1...@wqex694.info wrote:
 Ok, let me make it a little more clear for anybody that might not have
 understood the first message.  (No offense intended Eric)

 A Kenwood TKR-820 repeater has CTCSS and DCS encoding and decoding built
 into it with an on-board controller.  The configuration is stored in a
 EEPROM chip, 93C46 (or 93LC46).

 What I'm trying to do is figure out how to change the configuration 
 without
 using the expensive Kenwood programmers, unfortunately this one isn't 
 just a
 simple cable.

 I have a serial EEPROM reader/writer, so I used instructions found in the
 repeater-builder archives at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg63481.html
 to modify the configuration for the ctcss tones.  Unfortunately, the 
 person
 who wrote that article didn't figure out the DCS configuration.

 So I'm hoping that someone who has a TKR-820 already configured for DCS 
 has
 the ability to read the EEPROM chip as well and send me a copy.

 I hope that clears it up a little more.

 Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694


 --
 From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:24 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM

 Jeff,

 I suspect you may be headed for disappointment.  CTCSS (PL) and CDCSS
 (DPL)
 are handled differently within the radio.  While the former is audio,
 albeit
 sub-audible, the latter requires a DC connection to the modulator in 
 order
 to create the DCS signal at a 134.4 Hz rate.  In other words the CTCSS
 hardware will not work for CDCSS.  Perhaps some readers who have TKR-820
 stations with CDCSS capability can advise you about the modifications
 and/or
 optional modules that are necessary to handle DCS.

 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 kb1...@wqex694.info
 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:03 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM




 Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the
 instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after
 reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing
 about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I
 need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS
 information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine
 and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a
 EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read
 the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send
 me a copy.

 Thanks,
 Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694






 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820

2009-09-21 Thread Maire-Radios
sorry no   need a EPROM burner to do the 820's

John


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  From: Paul Dumdie 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:00 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820


I have the opertunity to get a Kenwood TKR-820 repeater. I have the 
programing cable that works on a TKR-850 and all of the TK mobiles.
  Will this cable work with a TKR-820? What software works to put the repeater 
in the ham band? Can the repeater do multi PL or DPL?

  Thanks! 

  Paul R. Dumdie Jr. 73
  W9DWP/R IRLP-NODE-4455
  443.025/2A 145.270/1B/1Z/NAC-293
  ARC-Radio-8 KCARES KCAPS 
  HERD546 EX WB9QWZ
  WQGG738-462.725 AAR5CU/T
  www.riflesandradios.com
  www.theherd.com


  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820

2009-09-21 Thread Juan Tellez
The Kenwood series TKR-X20 of repeaters, need a custom programmer, KPT-50 or
KPT-20, some fellows 

have done it without them, but you need a lot of time and knowledge of hex
software and a good luck.

 

JT

 

De: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de Maire-Radios
Enviado el: Lunes, 21 de Septiembre de 2009 04:34 p.m.
Para: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820

 

  

sorry no   need a EPROM burner to do the 820's

 

John

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Paul Dumdie mailto:w9...@sbcglobal.net  

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:00 PM

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820

 

  

I have the opertunity to get a Kenwood TKR-820 repeater. I have the
programing cable that works on a TKR-850 and all of the TK mobiles.
Will this cable work with a TKR-820? What software works to put the repeater
in the ham band? Can the repeater do multi PL or DPL?

Thanks! 

Paul R. Dumdie Jr. 73
W9DWP/R IRLP-NODE-4455
443.025/2A 145.270/1B/1Z/NAC-293
ARC-Radio-8 KCARES KCAPS 
HERD546 EX WB9QWZ
WQGG738-462.725 AAR5CU/T
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820

2008-07-04 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 04:29 PM 07/03/08, you wrote:
Hi Guys
does anyone out there happen to have a pinout on the accesory connecter
on the back of the machine

N9ex

Google is your friend

And the www.repeater-builder.com web site is as well

http://www.repeater-builder.com/kenwood/tkr-n20-notes.html

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820

2008-07-04 Thread harley5477
does anyone have a controller model they can share as I have been working  
with a nhrc controller and don't seem to be able to get it to key the repeater. 
 
also using rus instead of cor, didn't see a cor signal on this repeater ?
suggestions welcome...
N9ex
Jack
  
 
 
In a message dated 7/4/2008 3:52:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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At 04:29 PM 07/03/08, you wrote:
Hi Guys
does anyone out  there happen to have a pinout on the accesory connecter
on the back of  the machine

N9ex

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And the www.repeater-And the www.repeater-WBRbuilder.com w

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(http://www.repeater-builder.com/kenwood/tkr-n20-notes.html) 

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Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820

2008-07-04 Thread Ron Wright
Jack,

One thing to look at on the TKR820.  The COS might require a pullup resistor to 
make it go high.  Often they are open collector that just pull to ground and 
let float when wanting to go high.

If a pullup is needed probably a 4.7k will do.

To check this measure the COS with voltmeter to make sure it is swinging high 
and low.  High would probably be 5 or more volts and low less than 0.5 volts.

73, ron, n9ee/r




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/07/04 Fri AM 08:44:51 EDT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820


does anyone have a controller model they can share as I have been working with 
a nhrc controller and don't seem to be able to get it to key the repeater. 
also using rus instead of cor, didn't see a cor signal on this repeater 
?suggestions welcome...N9exJack   In a message dated 7/4/2008 3:52:35 A.M. 
Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 04:29 PM 07/03/08, you wrote:
Hi Guys
does anyone out   there happen to have a pinout on the accesory connecter
on the back of   the machine

N9ex

Google is your   friend

And the www.repeater-builder.com web site is as   well

http://www.repeater-builder.com/kenwood/tkr-n20-notes.html

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820

2008-07-04 Thread John
The COR signal is opposite. I had to use a transistor invertor circuit 
to use with the NHRC-2. Then we got an NHRC-7 which has a pos or neg COR 
switch and that solved it

John

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Coordinator for Amateur Radio  
National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

does anyone have a controller model they can share as I have been working  
with a nhrc controller and don't seem to be able to get it to key the 
repeater.  
also using rus instead of cor, didn't see a cor signal on this repeater ?
suggestions welcome...
N9ex





RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820

2008-07-04 Thread n9wys
Replied off-list

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n9ex_jack
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820

Hi Guys
does anyone out there happen to have a pinout on the accesory connecter 
on the back of the machine

N9ex








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820

2008-07-04 Thread ka3hsw
The NHRC-2 is polarity independent for COS...  I've built  installed 3 of 
them.

It uses an optoisolator with both inputs floating, so it can be used for 
either positive- or negative-going COS as well.

73,

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


- Original Message - 
From: John
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820


The COR signal is opposite. I had to use a transistor invertor circuit
to use with the NHRC-2. Then we got an NHRC-7 which has a pos or neg COR
switch and that solved it

John

-- 
John Mc Hugh, K4AG
Coordinator for Amateur Radio
National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC
Home page:- http://www.wx4nhc.org

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

does anyone have a controller model they can share as I have been working
with a nhrc controller and don't seem to be able to get it to key the 
repeater.
also using rus instead of cor, didn't see a cor signal on this repeater ?
suggestions welcome...
N9ex





Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820 COR COR logic (and LDG Voter Interface)

2008-07-04 Thread skipp025

Actually, the Kenwood TKR-820 Repeater COR COS logic output 
changes state with valid activity but the voltage transitions 
are not standard values you'd expect. Measure the actual voltage 
change because I've found some of them to be slightly different 
per actual hardware version of the repeater.

I would not blindly connect pull-up or sink resistors/logic to 
the output connection because the line ties direct back to the 
uP board section. You don't want to make a mistake and blow out 
the internal Repeater COR/COS logic by back-feeding the wrong 
potentials on the lead...  The fix is not simple or pretty 

You can use a simple comparitor circuit to level transition the 
changing state to a more standard active low/high value as in 
zero to +13vdc (or +5v) or the converse. 

Some years back I designed and constructed a small interface 
board to work with a large number of TKR-720 Repeaters and the 
LDG Voters... not only do those circuits still function well... 
the circuit pretty much interfaces (detect) ANY - COS, Squelch, 
COR or logic state change and outputs a choice of active 
low/high logic and or a form C type relay connection(s). 

I use the interface boards for a fairly large number of commercial 
radio projects. The logic board can be used to detect just about 
any voltage change in a circuit and I've liberally used them in 
many other applications.

I'm about ready to run off another batch of Any Value Logic 
Interface Boards so that circuit will be available as a 
complete product later this month (if the circuit board mfgr 
finishes on time). I'll also have specific connection information 
available applied to the Kenwood TKR-820 Repeater circuit. 

If you need more Kenwood Repeater interface help before the 
board/circuit is again available to the public, please do feel 
free to Email me direct (I'm an Authorized Kenwood Service 
Station) for more help. You don't have to buy anything from me 
to obtain information and support. 

cheers, 
skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 
www.radiowrench.com 

 One thing to look at on the TKR820.  The COS might require a 
 pullup resistor to make it go high.  Often they are open 
 collector that just pull to ground and let float when wanting 
 to go high. 

The mentioned TKR-720/820 Repeater COS/COR logic ouput is not 
a standard configuration. 
 
 If a pull-up is needed probably a 4.7k will do.
 To check this measure the COS with voltmeter to make sure 
 it is swinging high and low.  High would probably be 5 or 
 more volts and low less than 0.5 volts.

You will find the COS/COR line to change value from some point 
about 4 volts to another value depending on any other attached 
devices and/or parts. 


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/07/04 Fri AM 08:44:51 EDT
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR 820
   
 does anyone have a controller model they can share as I have been
working with a nhrc controller and don't seem to be able to get it to
key the repeater. also using rus instead of cor, didn't see a cor
signal on this repeater ?suggestions welcome...N9exJack   In a
message dated 7/4/2008 3:52:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 

  
 At 04:29 PM 07/03/08, you wrote:
 Hi Guys
 does anyone out there happen to have a pin-out on 
 the accessory connecter
 on the back of   the machine
 N9ex
 




RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Reciever Issues

2007-11-22 Thread John Barrett
I've got the chip pulled, and a socket installed, but I'd prefer to wait on
sending a chip out until my replacement programmer gets here and I can
validate the chip myself.. if I'm lucky it will be here tomorrow.

 

The unit was previously programmed for 451.125/456.125.. I'm moving it down
10mhz to 441.350/446.350. the data in the chip is CC 84 3C 83 if you want to
compare that to what your programmer would put in.

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve S. Bosshard
(NU5D)
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:33 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Reciever Issues

 

If you are up to removing the eeprom from the front panel (soldered in) 
and mail it to me I will put it in my kpt20 and verify operation - I
have never run into trouble with a UHF repeater. Some of the TKR720's
were borderline, but the TKR820's were OK. You don't have a T band unit
or something out of the ordinary do you?

Steve NU5D

John Barrett wrote:

 Byte swapped version of the chip was unable to get the test point
 voltages above 150mV on either TX or RX, so I presume I have the byte
 order correct J

 

 Data for the chip was generated with KPG21D (the programming software
 for this repeater) and validated with the formula from a 3^rd party
 document detailing the frequency to hex code calculation. The binary
 data saved by KPG21D was edited with a hex editor to extract the 128
 bytes needed for the frequency eeprom.


 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Reciever Issues

2007-11-22 Thread John Barrett
Seller claimed the repeater was removed from operation, and it was labeled
451/456 - so it should be the right one to tune down

 

The 1st 4 bytes are CC 84 3C 83 if you can compare that to the data your
programmer would write..  The target frequencies are 441.350 TX and 456.350
RX

 

I've already removed the chip and installed a socket . I'll consider sending
the chip if no other viable solution comes up.

 

I don't know what T band is, unless that's the 470-500 version of the
repeater. How would I tell ?? I don't see any particular markings on the
chassis or boards that would tell me what exactly I have.. The only thing
that might be relevant is a sticker on the RX VCO marked COM15

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve S. Bosshard
(NU5D)
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:33 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Reciever Issues

 

If you are up to removing the eeprom from the front panel (soldered in) 
and mail it to me I will put it in my kpt20 and verify operation - I
have never run into trouble with a UHF repeater. Some of the TKR720's
were borderline, but the TKR820's were OK. You don't have a T band unit
or something out of the ordinary do you?

Steve NU5D

John Barrett wrote:

 Byte swapped version of the chip was unable to get the test point
 voltages above 150mV on either TX or RX, so I presume I have the byte
 order correct J

 

 Data for the chip was generated with KPG21D (the programming software
 for this repeater) and validated with the formula from a 3^rd party
 document detailing the frequency to hex code calculation. The binary
 data saved by KPG21D was edited with a hex editor to extract the 128
 bytes needed for the frequency eeprom.


 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control

2006-10-28 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Mark (or anyone on the list), is there a Kenwood manual that explains events
in the repeater concerned with muting, PL  DPL, etc.?  I have successfully
controled DPL (Tone) on the transmitter to facilitate linking using digital
PL so that there's not tone transmitted unless there is a valid received
signal.  It appears to be pretty clean, but one of the locals that uses
Motorola radios says something about the 46 Hz is missingstands to
reason since I kill the tone as soon as the COS is dropped.   I undestand
that during a normal transmitter unkey, there is reverse burst or 46 Hz
transmission or something like that to squelch compatible receivers.

Sure would like a clear explanation of that.  If I knew what I was looking
for I might figure out how the signaling unit functions in that respect and
come up with a method to make a clean Motorola squelch sequence contolled by
COS.

Any help would be appreciated.

de WD7F
John in Tucson



- Original Message - 
From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control


John,

Do you have the manual for this repeater?  (Sorry - I've been only kinda
following this thread...)  If not, I have it in PDF on my ftp server.  Let
me know if you need access to it and I can set it up for you.

E-mail direct to:
n9wys at ameritech dot net

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of WD7F - John in Tucson
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:27 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control



John P Slusser wrote:
 Thanks.  I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit.  If that
 doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder.  I'm going to try to
 link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access.  This will be a
 first for me.  I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with
 the Kenwood and might share a method.

 John in Tucson

I couldn't tell you which pin it is, but encode tone is available on one
of the connectors on the tone panel/controller board in the top of the
repeater (the board were the tone EEPROM is located). You should be able
to find it with the manual and either interrupt it, or pull it to ground
when no tone is desired. Then just bring the control line for that out a
spare pin on the molex on the back where everything else plugs in. There
is one or two that can be used.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Rgr.  I opened it up yesterday evening and found the enable on the module
responsible for encoding.  And that signal originates in the tone panel as
you mention.  I'm going to test that theory first.  Also, I want to see how
disabling the PL will effect the squelch heard on a user's radio.  I still
may elect to use an external encoder if my experiement is not so succssful.

Thanks.
WD7F
John in Tucson








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control

2006-10-28 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Thanks Eric.  At least I understand the basics now.
John in Tucson

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 7:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control


John,

Reverse burst is used only in CTCSS, AKA PL tone.  When digital subaudible
coding (CDCSS, AKA DPL) is used, a 134 Hz analog tone is transmitted at
the end of the message to close the squelch.  In both CTCSS and CDCSS, the
transmitter carrier is held on for 180 milliseconds or so after PTT is
released, so that the CTCSS tone can be shifted in phase (reverse burst) or
the CDCSS turnoff tone of 134 Hz can be sent.  Either scheme will mute the
receiver's audio while the carrier is still present, eliminating the
annoying squelch crash that would otherwise occur.

One possible benefit of using CDCSS on a linked repeater network, where each
repeater uses a different digital code, is that the 134 Hz turnoff tone is
common to all CDCSS codes, causing every linked repeater to mute at the same
time rather than sequentially.  The down side, of course, is that relatively
few radios made for the Amateur Radio market have either CDCSS with the 134
Hz turnoff tone or CTCSS with reverse burst capability.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WD7F - John in Tucson
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 7:25 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control

Mark (or anyone on the list), is there a Kenwood manual that explains events
in the repeater concerned with muting, PL  DPL, etc.?  I have successfully
controled DPL (Tone) on the transmitter to facilitate linking using digital
PL so that there's not tone transmitted unless there is a valid received
signal.  It appears to be pretty clean, but one of the locals that uses
Motorola radios says something about the 46 Hz is missingstands to
reason since I kill the tone as soon as the COS is dropped.   I undestand
that during a normal transmitter unkey, there is reverse burst or 46 Hz
transmission or something like that to squelch compatible receivers.

Sure would like a clear explanation of that.  If I knew what I was looking
for I might figure out how the signaling unit functions in that respect and
come up with a method to make a clean Motorola squelch sequence contolled by
COS.

Any help would be appreciated.

de WD7F
John in Tucson



- Original Message - 
From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control


John,

Do you have the manual for this repeater?  (Sorry - I've been only kinda
following this thread...)  If not, I have it in PDF on my ftp server.  Let
me know if you need access to it and I can set it up for you.

E-mail direct to:
n9wys at ameritech dot net

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of WD7F - John in Tucson
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:27 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control



John P Slusser wrote:
 Thanks.  I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit.  If that
 doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder.  I'm going to try to
 link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access.  This will be a
 first for me.  I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with
 the Kenwood and might share a method.

 John in Tucson

I couldn't tell you which pin it is, but encode tone is available on one
of the connectors on the tone panel/controller board in the top of the
repeater (the board were the tone EEPROM is located). You should be able
to find it with the manual and either interrupt it, or pull it to ground
when no tone is desired. Then just bring the control line for that out a
spare pin on the molex on the back where everything else plugs in. There
is one or two that can be used.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Rgr.  I opened it up yesterday evening and found the enable on the module
responsible for encoding.  And that signal originates in the tone panel as
you mention.  I'm going to test that theory first.  Also, I want to see how
disabling the PL will effect the squelch heard on a user's radio.  I still
may elect to use an external encoder if my experiement is not so succssful.

Thanks.
WD7F
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control

2006-10-25 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Yes, I have the PDF manual. Thanks anyway.
de WD7F
John in Tucson

- Original Message - 
From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 PL Control


John,

Do you have the manual for this repeater?  (Sorry - I've been only kinda
following this thread...)  If not, I have it in PDF on my ftp server.  Let
me know if you need access to it and I can set it up for you.

E-mail direct to:
n9wys at ameritech dot net

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of WD7F - John in Tucson
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:27 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 PL Control



John P Slusser wrote:
 Thanks.  I'm going to try that on the internal PLL unit.  If that
 doesn't work I'll acquire an external encoder.  I'm going to try to
 link using DPL and use PL for user repeater access.  This will be a
 first for me.  I was hoping that someone had in-depth experience with
 the Kenwood and might share a method.

 John in Tucson

I couldn't tell you which pin it is, but encode tone is available on one
of the connectors on the tone panel/controller board in the top of the
repeater (the board were the tone EEPROM is located). You should be able
to find it with the manual and either interrupt it, or pull it to ground
when no tone is desired. Then just bring the control line for that out a
spare pin on the molex on the back where everything else plugs in. There
is one or two that can be used.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Rgr.  I opened it up yesterday evening and found the enable on the module
responsible for encoding.  And that signal originates in the tone panel as
you mention.  I'm going to test that theory first.  Also, I want to see how
disabling the PL will effect the squelch heard on a user's radio.  I still
may elect to use an external encoder if my experiement is not so succssful.

Thanks.
WD7F
John in Tucson







 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!

2005-11-10 Thread N9WYS
Byron,

It sounds like we have identical repeaters - TKR-820 with CAT-300
controllers...  I was pretty certain that I needed to ground Pin 1 before
the external controller would work at all, but I'll go back and check that
out!  

If memory serves me, I grounded it to chassis ground in the repeater itself.
Does Pin 1 need to be brought into and grounded in the CAT-300 controller?
Maybe *that's* where my problem is coming up...

Mark - N9WYS

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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:24 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!

Hi
  It sound like you do not have pin #1 in the external connector grounded.
It disables the internal controller functions when using an external
connector.

I have an almost identical setup (TKR-820 and Cat 300) and do not have
the problem you mentioned.

But I do not have the manuals only the technical info that is on the
web.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!

2005-11-09 Thread kc8rsr
sounds like you need to try to rewire the whole system, separate
the TX and the RX and wire them into the CAT 300 separately.
i have never been fond of systems that use an internal controller. 
i would rather have 2 separate radios, one for TX and one for RX
and tie them into the controller.
 
just my 2 cents worth.
73
 
 
STEVE - KC8RSR
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---Original Message---
 
From: N9WYS
Date: 11/09/05 22:24:11
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 Timeout Timer Problem - Frustrating!
 
Before you all banish me to the outer reaches of Mongolia - or somewhere
else - because of all the questions I keep posing about this machine, please
understand that I have tried to research this issue in the technical
material I have available to me and I keep coming up empty. This is why I
keep prodding. I know there is quite a wealth of knowledge here, so I’m
trying to tap into some of that knowledge…
 
That being said, here’s the latest on this frustrating issue. I have a
TKR-820 interfaced with a CAT-300 repeater controller. The CAT-300 operates
fine, whether the internal controller is turned ON or OFF. The only issue I
have is with the internal timeout timer. Previously, the repeater would shut
itself down after 2-1/2 minutes when the internal controller circuitry was
turned OFF. (REPEAT button OFF) The external controller was set for a much
longer time, so I knew it wasn’t the CAT-300 causing the problem.
 
I went to the site a few days ago, and adjusted the TOT pot on the internal
controller to its maximum (5 min). I then made certain that the external
controller’s TOT was set shorter (4 min) than the internal one – worked just
fine. (So I thought…) I departed.
 
Apparently, I departed prematurely. (No jokes here, OK? Hehehehe) 
 
Anyway, this evening I heard two stations using the repeater and at 5
minutes the repeater dropped. DAMN!! I went back out to the repeater site to
trouble check some more. I found that if I unplug the external controller
and have the internal REPEAT function turned ON, the internal controller
controls the machine – I expected this. (Not what I want!) If I unplug the
external controller and have the REPEAT function turned OFF, the repeater
does not repeat – plug the controller back in, and the repeater works. (This
IS what I want!) However, if I don’t turn the REPEAT function ON, the
repeater times itself out way too soon – I presume that this is because of
the INTERNAL timeout timer… 
 
So, how do I totally disable the internal timeout timer? It is becoming more
apparent that the timeout timer functions in two ways – the first, as a
repeater timeout timer (of course); but secondly, as a “stuck mic” timeout
timer when the radio is in “base station” configuration (simplex operation)…
This has really frustrated me, and now I’m on a quest to figure out just how
to shut that damned internal timeout timer off once and for all. Any
suggestions?? Can I just unplug the internal controller board altogether?
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 and the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer

2005-05-07 Thread Paul Finch





Mark,

I have 
one of these programmers also! I will be interested in any 
responses!

Paul



  -Original Message-From: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  N9WYSSent: Friday, May 06, 2005 7:01 PMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 
  and the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer
  
  Well, everyone, I finally have my 
  external controller (CAT-300) configured and working on this machine. My 
  next task is to reprogram the frequency and PL options. I have a KPT-20 
  programmer, and the manual for it (and the repeater), but the programmer 
  manual is not what I would call intuitive.
  
  Can anyone who has experience with 
  this animal give me some explicit directions on how to change the EEPROMS? 
  The repeater is currently on 462.155 (+5 Meg, with DPL) and I want to 
  move it to 444.550 (+5 with PL 114.8). The radio does not have a channel 
  change knob or channel display, so I assume it is only a single channel 
  repeater (although it appears the EEPROM doesnt care about 
  that).
  
  I have tried to fumble my way 
  through reprogramming this, but when I get to the VERIFY portion, I get a 
  failure message. Its apparent Im not doing something correctly, but 
  Ill be damned if I can figure it out. The reprogramming and retuning is 
  the final issues I need to do before I can put this on the air, so Im getting 
  anxious now that Im close to the end.
  
  Thanks so much!
  
  Mark  
  N9WYS













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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 and the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer

2005-05-06 Thread Maire-Radios





FYI 462.155 is not a 
channel in the FCC list for use in the US.



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  N9WYS 

  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 8:01 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 and 
  the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer
  
  
  Well, everyone, I finally have my 
  external controller (CAT-300) configured and working on this machine. My 
  next task is to reprogram the frequency and PL options. I have a KPT-20 
  programmer, and the manual for it (and the repeater), but the programmer 
  manual is not what I would call intuitive.
  
  Can anyone who has experience with 
  this animal give me some explicit directions on how to change the EEPROMS? 
  The repeater is currently on 462.155 (+5 Meg, with DPL) and I want to 
  move it to 444.550 (+5 with PL 114.8). The radio does not have a channel 
  change knob or channel display, so I assume it is only a single channel 
  repeater (although it appears the EEPROM doesn’t care about 
  that).
  
  I have tried to fumble my way 
  through reprogramming this, but when I get to the VERIFY portion, I get a 
  failure message. It’s apparent I’m not doing something correctly, but 
  I’ll be damned if I can figure it out. The reprogramming and retuning is 
  the final issues I need to do before I can put this on the air, so I’m getting 
  anxious now that I’m close to the end.
  
  Thanks so much!
  
  Mark – 
  N9WYS













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RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 and the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer

2005-05-06 Thread N9WYS











Sorry  I have fat fingers. The
radio is on 462.150 (+)



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Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 7:08 PM
To:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]
TKR-820 and the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer





FYI 462.155 is not a channel in the FCC list for use
in the US.



















- Original Message - 





From: N9WYS 





To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 





Sent: Friday, May
06, 2005 8:01 PM





Subject:
[Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 and the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer









Well, everyone, I finally have my
external controller (CAT-300) configured and working on this machine. My
next task is to reprogram the frequency and PL options. I have a KPT-20
programmer, and the manual for it (and the repeater), but the programmer manual
is not what I would call intuitive.



Can anyone who has experience with
this animal give me some explicit directions on how to change the EEPROMS?
The repeater is currently on 462.155 (+5 Meg, with DPL) and I want to
move it to 444.550 (+5 with PL 114.8). The radio does not have a channel
change knob or channel display, so I assume it is only a single channel
repeater (although it appears the EEPROM doesnt care about that).



I have tried to fumble my way
through reprogramming this, but when I get to the VERIFY portion, I get a
failure message. Its apparent Im not doing something
correctly, but Ill be damned if I can figure it out. The
reprogramming and retuning is the final issues I need to do before I can put
this on the air, so Im getting anxious now that Im close to the
end.



Thanks so much!



Mark  N9WYS































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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 and the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer

2005-05-06 Thread XE2SI





Contact me direct, I can guide you to do it, is not a big 
deal

Juan

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  N9WYS 

  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:01 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 and 
  the Kenwood KPT-20 Programmer
  
  
  Well, everyone, I finally have my 
  external controller (CAT-300) configured and working on this machine. My 
  next task is to reprogram the frequency and PL options. I have a KPT-20 
  programmer, and the manual for it (and the repeater), but the programmer 
  manual is not what I would call intuitive.
  
  Can anyone who has experience with 
  this animal give me some explicit directions on how to change the EEPROMS? 
  The repeater is currently on 462.155 (+5 Meg, with DPL) and I want to 
  move it to 444.550 (+5 with PL 114.8). The radio does not have a channel 
  change knob or channel display, so I assume it is only a single channel 
  repeater (although it appears the EEPROM doesn’t care about 
  that).
  
  I have tried to fumble my way 
  through reprogramming this, but when I get to the VERIFY portion, I get a 
  failure message. It’s apparent I’m not doing something correctly, but 
  I’ll be damned if I can figure it out. The reprogramming and retuning is 
  the final issues I need to do before I can put this on the air, so I’m getting 
  anxious now that I’m close to the end.
  
  Thanks so much!
  
  Mark – 
  N9WYS













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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 - Adding an External Controller..

2004-04-15 Thread XE2SI





Hi Steve, hope this helps..:
Pin 
Function

1 
Hook ( must be grounded in order to PTT )
2 
Line ground
3 
Encode tone input
4 
Discriminator
5 
Line audio ( Takeover switch must be in out position )
6 
Speaker ground
7 
13.6 vdc 1.0 amps max out
8 
PTT
9 
Speaker in
10Rx 
audio squelched
11 
Ground
12 
Speaker out
13 
TOR ( Low when proper PL decode )
14 
Special use ( for channel change )
15 
"" 
"

Juan,73

  - Mensaje original - 
  De: Steve 
  Grantham 
  Para: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Enviado: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:20 
  PM
  Asunto: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 - 
  Adding an External Controller..
  Does anyone have the pin-outs for the accessory jack on the 
  TKR-820 foradding an external controller? Any hookup 
  tips?Thanks!Steve













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