RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-15 Thread Mike DeWaele
Here's a quick and simple way to tell if there's another repeater some where
and what freqs. the current one is on. Just turn off the ones you've found
and see what radios no longer bring up the repeater. Then you'll know if
it's bus, police, or maintenance.

Mike KA2NDW

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:23 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question


There wouldn't happen to be a water tank located near that intersection
is
  there?

  Chuck
  WB2EDV

  - Original Message -
  From: "Christopher Hodgdon" 
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:09 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

  > Problem is that they are licensed for 3 freqs. 2 UHF and 1 VHF and I
have
  > confirmed that they are running on all three of them. Its just know a
  > matter of cat and mouse on the third repeater location. As there is no
  > one that works here anymore that knows where the radios are all located
  > expect the 2 at the high school football field.
  >
  > In fact the bus repeater as listed on its license is supposed to be
  > located right in the middle of the intersection of a state highway and a
  > US highway that runs through our town, while the GPS listed on the same
  > license shows it to be about 20 miles south of that location in the
middle
  > of a cow pasture.
  >
  > Will keep seeking, thanks for the help and input.
  >
  > Chris KE5IGO
  >



  


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
And the license data indicates that the antenna is on a tank. There is a 
water tank at that intersection according to Google Earth street view.

Chuck



- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Lemmon" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question [1 Attachment]


> I plotted the repeater coordinates on the Kaufman USGS survey map, image
> attached, and you can see that the location is very close to the
> intersection of Highways 34 and 1388- not 20 miles away.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:23 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
>
>
>
> There wouldn't happen to be a water tank located near that intersection is
> there?
>
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hodgdon"  <mailto:chris.hodgdon%40kaufman-ares.org> >
> To:  <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:09 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
>
>> Problem is that they are licensed for 3 freqs. 2 UHF and 1 VHF and I have
>> confirmed that they are running on all three of them. Its just know a
>> matter of cat and mouse on the third repeater location. As there is no
>> one that works here anymore that knows where the radios are all located
>> expect the 2 at the high school football field.
>>
>> In fact the bus repeater as listed on its license is supposed to be
>> located right in the middle of the intersection of a state highway and a
>> US highway that runs through our town, while the GPS listed on the same
>> license shows it to be about 20 miles south of that location in the 
>> middle
>
>> of a cow pasture.
>>
>> Will keep seeking, thanks for the help and input.
>>
>> Chris KE5IGO
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question [1 Attachment]

2009-08-14 Thread Eric Lemmon
I plotted the repeater coordinates on the Kaufman USGS survey map, image
attached, and you can see that the location is very close to the
intersection of Highways 34 and 1388- not 20 miles away.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

  

There wouldn't happen to be a water tank located near that intersection is 
there?

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hodgdon" mailto:chris.hodgdon%40kaufman-ares.org> >
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:09 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

> Problem is that they are licensed for 3 freqs. 2 UHF and 1 VHF and I have 
> confirmed that they are running on all three of them. Its just know a 
> matter of cat and mouse on the third repeater location. As there is no 
> one that works here anymore that knows where the radios are all located 
> expect the 2 at the high school football field.
>
> In fact the bus repeater as listed on its license is supposed to be 
> located right in the middle of the intersection of a state highway and a 
> US highway that runs through our town, while the GPS listed on the same 
> license shows it to be about 20 miles south of that location in the middle

> of a cow pasture.
>
> Will keep seeking, thanks for the help and input.
>
> Chris KE5IGO
>






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Answering my own question, according to Google Earth, yes there is a water 
tower located right near that address. I'd look there if it were me.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Kelsey" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question


> There wouldn't happen to be a water tank located near that intersection is
> there?
>
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hodgdon" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:09 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
>
>
>> Problem is that they are licensed for 3 freqs. 2 UHF and 1 VHF and I have
>> confirmed that they are running on all three of them.  Its just know a
>> matter of cat and mouse on the third repeater location.  As there is no
>> one that works here anymore that knows where the radios are all located
>> expect the 2 at the high school football field.
>>
>> In fact the bus repeater as listed on its license is supposed to be
>> located right in the middle of the intersection of a state highway and a
>> US highway that runs through our town, while the GPS listed on the same
>> license shows it to be about 20 miles south of that location in the 
>> middle
>> of a cow pasture.
>>
>> Will keep seeking, thanks for the help and input.
>>
>> Chris KE5IGO
>>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
There wouldn't happen to be a water tank located near that intersection is 
there?

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hodgdon" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:09 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question


> Problem is that they are licensed for 3 freqs. 2 UHF and 1 VHF and I have 
> confirmed that they are running on all three of them.  Its just know a 
> matter of cat and mouse on the third repeater location.  As there is no 
> one that works here anymore that knows where the radios are all located 
> expect the 2 at the high school football field.
>
> In fact the bus repeater as listed on its license is supposed to be 
> located right in the middle of the intersection of a state highway and a 
> US highway that runs through our town, while the GPS listed on the same 
> license shows it to be about 20 miles south of that location in the middle 
> of a cow pasture.
>
> Will keep seeking, thanks for the help and input.
>
> Chris KE5IGO
>



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread NORM KNAPP
I didn't know there were bussiness freqs in the 173mhz range. If we had applied 
for a repeater pair for bussiness use and they had sent back 158 something and 
173 something, I would have thougth they hit a 7 instead of a 5 and it should 
have been 153 something instead.  Oh well, learn something every day.

- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Fri Aug 14 16:41:32 2009
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

  

Both 158.385 MHz and 173.325 MHz are independent frequencies in the
Industrial/Business Pool that can be used for either base or mobile
operation. Neither frequency is paired with another, so the separation
between them is irrelevant. However, this wide spacing will lend itself to
a two-antenna installation. With only 34 dB of isolation needed, this could
be met with about 10 feet of vertical spacing. In addition, neither
frequency has any limitations or coordination body associated with them, so
the licensed users are free to apply them as they wish.

In this particular case, any questions about licensing or location of
transmitters should be directed to whatever person or company is shown as
the "Contact" on the license, which is:

Comtex Communications
Pat L Gardenhire 
PO Box 977
601 Ferris Avenue
WAXAHACHIE, TX 75165
972-938-1980

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:16 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

HEy, 
Is it just me, or do those vhf frequencies seem a bit odd. A 15 mhz split on
vhf? I wonder if that was a typo when the licsense was issued. I have never
seen a 173 mhz freq used by anyone but fed gov. 
73 de N5NPO 
Norm 

- Original Message - 
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > 
Sent: Thu Aug 13 22:12:44 2009 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question 

Our are located in Texas. The following is the 3 callsigns issued to the
district and the frequencies they are paired to, according to the FCC ULS
system: 

WPMR402 - FRN # 0001647460 - 451.750/456.750 Primary Bus/Emergency
Maintenance 
WPVZ977 - 158.385/173.325 PD Frequency 
WPWW437 - 451.725/456.725 Maintenance Only 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Maire-Radios"
 wrote: 
> 
> Just looked on the FCC data base and there are 2 school boards in Ca on
the 725 freg. 0 on the 750. 
> 
> Need to check you paper work also. 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: william...@... 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question 
> 
> 
> 
> I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time. 
> 
> bb 
> 
> In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
maire-rad...@... writes: 
> 
> 
> 
> how about one repeater but different tone codes? 
> 
> or the repeater is at some other location. 
> 
> John 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Christopher Hodgdon 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question 
> 
> 
> 
> I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the
MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to
the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time
to locate the other repeater system. 
> 
> The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a
bus is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on
over them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention an

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Eric Lemmon
Both 158.385 MHz and 173.325 MHz are independent frequencies in the
Industrial/Business Pool that can be used for either base or mobile
operation.  Neither frequency is paired with another, so the separation
between them is irrelevant.  However, this wide spacing will lend itself to
a two-antenna installation.  With only 34 dB of isolation needed, this could
be met with about 10 feet of vertical spacing.  In addition, neither
frequency has any limitations or coordination body associated with them, so
the licensed users are free to apply them as they wish.

In this particular case, any questions about licensing or location of
transmitters should be directed to whatever person or company is shown as
the "Contact" on the license, which is:

Comtex Communications
Pat L Gardenhire 
PO Box 977
601 Ferris Avenue
WAXAHACHIE, TX 75165
972-938-1980

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:16 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

  

HEy, 
Is it just me, or do those vhf frequencies seem a bit odd. A 15 mhz split on
vhf? I wonder if that was a typo when the licsense was issued. I have never
seen a 173 mhz freq used by anyone but fed gov. 
73 de N5NPO 
Norm 

- Original Message - 
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > 
Sent: Thu Aug 13 22:12:44 2009 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question 



Our are located in Texas. The following is the 3 callsigns issued to the
district and the frequencies they are paired to, according to the FCC ULS
system: 

WPMR402 - FRN # 0001647460 - 451.750/456.750 Primary Bus/Emergency
Maintenance 
WPVZ977 - 158.385/173.325 PD Frequency 
WPWW437 - 451.725/456.725 Maintenance Only 

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Maire-Radios"
 wrote: 
> 
> Just looked on the FCC data base and there are 2 school boards in Ca on
the 725 freg. 0 on the 750. 
> 
> Need to check you paper work also. 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: william...@... 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question 
> 
> 
> 
> I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time. 
> 
> bb 
> 
> In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
maire-rad...@... writes: 
> 
> 
> 
> how about one repeater but different tone codes? 
> 
> or the repeater is at some other location. 
> 
> John 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Christopher Hodgdon 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question 
> 
> 
> 
> I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the
MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to
the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time
to locate the other repeater system. 
> 
> The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a
bus is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on
over them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying
to key their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their
frequency is so close to ours. 
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gary"  wrote: 
> > 
> > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained
for 
> > your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the
school's 
> > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but
can 
> > only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or

> > tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to 
> > configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same

> > with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a
lot. 
> > Gary 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread George Henry
Another possible trick is, if your control point (listed on the license) is a 
remote, there will be a dedicated phone line going from it to the repeater 
site.  Call the phone company & see where their records show the "other end"
 
George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Harris
Hello Chris:
Why can't the School District contact the company/person  that services the 
equipment? Ask them for the frequency information and equipment location? There 
must be some record of payment for service that will identify who the district 
has been dealing with in the past. I haven't been involved in 2 way commercial 
service for many years but, back in my day's every customer was required to 
have his equipment checked every year for proper frequency.  It would be noted 
in the station log and equipment service tag/ID tag that accompanied every unit 
and would be a paper trail to who the district was dealing with.
Cheers
Bill Harris w7kxb


From: Doug Bade 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question


  I would also consider it may have been sent in 
as DD.MM.MMM or DD.MM.SS.S or some alternate 
variation and may be improperly converted... this can easily happen..
You may want to try to convert it back and forth 
and wee if one of those is closer... we also have 
a longitude degree change very close to me.. and 
straddle both sides with sites we are very 
careful to watch but it is easy use the wrong one if you are in haste

Doug
KD8B

At 09:27 AM 8/14/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>Here is the real question. What map datum was 
>used for the GPS cordiantes? That may show where 
>the descrepancy is in location.
>
>Chris, does the bus repeater cover a larger area 
>than the PD or Maintanance repeaters? If so it 
>will proably be located on a tower somewhere. If 
>so there may be a utility bill or ret bill that 
>is paid by the district office on it. This may 
>take some research working with the person who 
>pays the bills. Also the Direction finding 
>should not be that hard, the biggest challange
>that you will have is aquiring the UHF 
>directional antenna. It does not have to be a 
>comercial antenna for what you are trying to do, 
>perhaps one of the radio shops you are currently 
>working with has one they would be willing ot loan you.
>
> From what I can tell you are in North East 
> Texas so some of the people around there should be able to help.
>
>Stan
>
>--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Christopher Hodgdon 
> wrote:
>
>From: Christopher Hodgdon 
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:12 PM
>
>
>Our are located in Texas. The following is the 3 
>callsigns issued to the district and the 
>frequencies they are paired to, according to the FCC ULS system:
>
>WPMR402 - FRN # 0001647460 - 451.750/456. 6. 750 
>Primary Bus/Emergency Maintenance
>WPVZ977 - 158.385/173. 3255 PD Frequency
>WPWW437 - 451.725/456. 725 Maintenance Only
>--- In 
><http://us.mc818.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@
> 
>yahoogroups. com, "Maire-Radios"  wrote:
> >
> > Just looked on the FCC data base and there 
> are 2 school boards in Ca on the 725 freg. 0 on the 750.
> >
> > Need to check you paper work also.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Doug Bade
I would also consider  it may have been sent in 
as  DD.MM.MMM or  DD.MM.SS.S or some alternate 
variation and may be improperly converted... this can easily happen..
You may want to try to convert it back and forth 
and wee if one of those is closer... we also have 
a longitude degree change very close to me.. and 
straddle both sides with sites we are very 
careful to watch but it is easy use the wrong one if you are in haste

Doug
KD8B

At 09:27 AM 8/14/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>Here is the real question. What map datum was 
>used for the GPS cordiantes? That may show where 
>the descrepancy is in location.
>
>Chris, does the bus repeater cover a larger area 
>than the PD or Maintanance repeaters? If so it 
>will proably be located on a tower somewhere. If 
>so there may be a utility bill or ret bill that 
>is paid by the district office on it. This may 
>take some research working with the person who 
>pays the bills. Also the Direction finding 
>should not be that hard, the biggest challange
>that you will have is aquiring the UHF 
>directional antenna. It does not have to be a 
>comercial antenna for what you are trying to do, 
>perhaps one of the radio shops you are currently 
>working with has one they would be willing ot loan you.
>
> From what I can tell you are in North East 
> Texas so some of the people around there should be able to help.
>
>Stan
>
>--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Christopher Hodgdon 
> wrote:
>
>From: Christopher Hodgdon 
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:12 PM
>
>
>Our are located in Texas. The following is the 3 
>callsigns issued to the district and the 
>frequencies they are paired to, according to the FCC ULS system:
>
>WPMR402 – FRN # 0001647460 – 451.750/456. 6. 750 
>Primary Bus/Emergency Maintenance
>WPVZ977 – 158.385/173. 3255 PD Frequency
>WPWW437 – 451.725/456. 725 Maintenance Only
>--- In 
><http://us.mc818.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@
> 
>yahoogroups. com, "Maire-Radios"  wrote:
> >
> > Just looked on the FCC data base and there 
> are 2 school boards in Ca on the 725 freg. 0 on the 750.
> >
> > Need to check you paper work also.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: william...@. ..
> > To: 
> <http://us.mc818.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@
>  
> yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time.
> >
> > bb
> >
> > In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. 
> Central Daylight Time, maire-radios@ ... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > how about one repeater but different tone codes?
> >
> > or the repeater is at some other location.
> >
> > John
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Christopher Hodgdon
> > To: 
> <http://us.mc818.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@
>  
> yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> >
> >
> >
> > I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. 
> The frequency listed on the MTR2000 is that of 
> the schools maint. department. The other 
> MTR2000, hook to the other antenna, is the 
> Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its 
> time to locate the other repeater system.
> >
> > The only odd ball thing I do know is that 
> every once in a while, when a bus is talking to 
> another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal 
> walk on over them, but its most likely another 
> drive not paying attention and trying to key 
> their radio. But I wonder if it might be the 
> maint. since their frequency is so close to ours.
> >
> > --- In 
> <http://us.mc818.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@
>  
> yahoogroups. com, "Gary"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the 
> frequency info you obtained for
> > > your school's license is inaccurate. The 
> UHF repeater is likely the school's
> > > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 
> is a multi-channel radio but can
> > > only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
> > > tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
> > > configure it. Hav

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Stanley Stanukinos
Here is the real question. What map datum was used for the GPS cordiantes? That 
may show where the descrepancy is in location.
 
Chris, does the bus repeater cover a larger area than the PD or Maintanance 
repeaters? If so it will proably be located on a tower somewhere. If so there 
may be a utility bill or ret bill that is paid by the district office on it. 
This may take some research working with the person who pays the bills. Also 
the Direction finding should not be that hard, the biggest challange 
that you will have is aquiring the UHF directional antenna. It does not have to 
be a comercial antenna for what you are trying to do, perhaps one of the radio 
shops you are currently working with has one they would be willing ot loan you.
 
>From what I can tell you are in North East Texas so some of the people around 
>there should be able to help.
 
Stan

--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Christopher Hodgdon  wrote:


From: Christopher Hodgdon 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:12 PM


  



Our are located in Texas. The following is the 3 callsigns issued to the 
district and the frequencies they are paired to, according to the FCC ULS 
system:

WPMR402 – FRN # 0001647460 – 451.750/456. 750 Primary Bus/Emergency Maintenance
WPVZ977 – 158.385/173. 325 PD Frequency
WPWW437 – 451.725/456. 725 Maintenance Only

--- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, "Maire-Radios"  
wrote:
>
> Just looked on the FCC data base and there are 2 school boards in Ca on the 
> 725 freg. 0 on the 750.
> 
> Need to check you paper work also.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: william...@. .. 
> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> 
> 
> 
> I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time.
> 
> bb
> 
> In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> maire-radios@ ... writes:
> 
> 
> 
> how about one repeater but different tone codes?
> 
> or the repeater is at some other location.
> 
> John
> - Original Message - 
> From: Christopher Hodgdon 
> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> 
> 
> 
> I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the 
> MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to 
> the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time 
> to locate the other repeater system. 
> 
> The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus 
> is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over 
> them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to 
> key their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency 
> is so close to ours.
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, "Gary"  wrote:
> >
> > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained for
> > your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the school's
> > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but can
> > only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
> > tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
> > configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same
> > with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a lot.
> > Gary
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> > 
> > Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of
> > thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some
> > new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to
> > them.
> > 
> > Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of
> > our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does
> > not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is
> > another story all together.
> > 
> > I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
> > field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One
> > connected to one radio and one connect

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
What's with all these Texas high schools having their own police 
departments - some with rather large ones? Sounds like a good school NOT to 
go to.

Chuck


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hodgdon" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:12 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question


Our are located in Texas.  The following is the 3 callsigns issued to the 
district and the frequencies they are paired to, according to the FCC ULS 
system:




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I wouldn't put too much faith in someone getting the coordinates correct 
when it was licensed - go for the physical location - use an HT and take the 
antenna off - look for antennas.

Chuck



- Original Message - 
From: "George Henry" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question


> The ULS license data shows the transmitter location as 2200 Washington St,
> Kaufman, TX, but that doesn't match up to the lat/lon coordinates which, 
> as
> Chris stated, are in the middle of a field near Oak Grove, according to
> Google Earth.
>
> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Butch Kanvick" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
>
>
>
> Chris
> You can go to the FCC website to find the license information and the
> license will have the coordinates for the location of the repeaters or
> bases, whatever you are looking for.Then punch the coordinates into Google
> Maps and it should show the location of them.
> Butch, KE7FEL/r
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread mch
There are a few odd Land Mobile frequencies in the 170 range. That actually 
looks more like a business pair than a PD pair, but I'm sure the school 
qualifies as a business, too (everyone does). I have a utility licensed on a 
173 MHz frequency in my area.

Joe M.

 On Fri 14/08/09  6:16 AM , "NORM KNAPP" nkn...@twowayradio.net sent:
> HEy,
> 
> Is it just me, or do those vhf frequencies seem a bit odd. A 15 mhz split
> on vhf? I wonder if that was a typo when the licsense was issued. I have
> never seen a 173 mhz freq used by anyone but fed gov.
> 73 de N5NPO
> 
> Norm
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thu Aug 13 22:12:44 2009
> 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Our are located in Texas. The following is the 3 callsigns issued to the
> district and the frequencies they are paired to, according to the FCC ULS
> system:
> 
> 
> WPMR402 – FRN # 0001647460 – 451.750/456.750 Primary
> Bus/Emergency Maintenance
> WPVZ977 – 158.385/173.325 PD Frequency
> 
> WPWW437 – 451.725/456.725 Maintenance Only
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>  ,
> "Maire-Radios"  wrote:
> >
> 
> > Just looked on the FCC data base and there are 2
> school boards in Ca on the 725 freg. 0 on the 750.
> > 
> 
> > Need to check you paper work also.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > - Original Message - 
> 
> > From: william...@... 
> 
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>   
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM
> 
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola
> MTR2000 Question
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a
> time.
> > 
> 
> > bb
> 
> > 
> 
> > In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M.
> Central Daylight Time, maire-rad...@... writes:
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > how about one repeater but different tone codes?
> 
> > 
> 
> > or the repeater is at some other location.
> 
> > 
> 
> > John
> 
> > - Original Message - 
> 
> > From: Christopher Hodgdon 
> 
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>   
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM
> 
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000
> Question
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > I wish I had a picture of the repeater house.
> The frequency listed on the MTR2000 is that of the schools maint.
> department. The other MTR2000, hook to the other antenna, is the Schools
> PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time to locate the other repeater
> system. 
> > 
> 
> > The only odd ball thing I do know is that every
> once in a while, when a bus is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get
> a high squeal walk on over them, but its most likely another drive not
> paying attention and trying to key their radio. But I wonder if it might be
> the maint. since their frequency is so close to ours.
> > 
> 
> > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>  , "Gary"
>  wrote:
> > >
> 
> > > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the
> frequency info you obtained for
> > > your school's license is inaccurate. The
> UHF repeater is likely the school's
> > > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000
> is a multi-channel radio but can
> > > only repeat on the channel it is left on.
> Recommend you find a dealer or
> > > tech experienced with the MTR and who has
> the software necessary to
> > > configure it. Have them download its
> codeplug. Recommend you do the same
> > > with your school radios. A comparison of
> the data will likely answer a lot.
> > > Gary
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > -Original Message-
> 
> > > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>  
> > > [repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of
> Christopher Hodgdon
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
> 
> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>  
> > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola
> MTR2000 Question
> > > 
> 
> > > Here's the deal, I work for a local school
> district, I have been kind of
> > > thrust into a temp. communications
> specialist position while we obtain some
> > > new buses and working with the company that
> will be adding the new radios to
> > > them.
> 
> > > 
&

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-14 Thread NORM KNAPP
HEy,
Is it just me, or do those vhf frequencies seem a bit odd. A 15 mhz split on 
vhf? I wonder if that was a typo when the licsense was issued. I have never 
seen a 173 mhz freq used by anyone but fed gov.
73 de N5NPO
Norm

- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thu Aug 13 22:12:44 2009
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

  

Our are located in Texas. The following is the 3 callsigns issued to the 
district and the frequencies they are paired to, according to the FCC ULS 
system:

WPMR402 – FRN # 0001647460 – 451.750/456.750 Primary Bus/Emergency Maintenance
WPVZ977 – 158.385/173.325 PD Frequency
WPWW437 – 451.725/456.725 Maintenance Only

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Maire-Radios"  
wrote:
>
> Just looked on the FCC data base and there are 2 school boards in Ca on the 
> 725 freg. 0 on the 750.
> 
> Need to check you paper work also.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: william...@... 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>  
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> 
> 
> 
> I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time.
> 
> bb
> 
> In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> maire-rad...@... writes:
> 
> 
> 
> how about one repeater but different tone codes?
> 
> or the repeater is at some other location.
> 
> John
> - Original Message - 
> From: Christopher Hodgdon 
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>  
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> 
> 
> 
> I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the 
> MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to 
> the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time 
> to locate the other repeater system. 
> 
> The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus 
> is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over 
> them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to 
> key their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency 
> is so close to ours.
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gary"  wrote:
> >
> > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained for
> > your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the school's
> > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but can
> > only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
> > tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
> > configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same
> > with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a lot.
> > Gary
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Christopher 
> > Hodgdon
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> > 
> > Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of
> > thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some
> > new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to
> > them.
> > 
> > Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of
> > our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does
> > not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is
> > another story all together.
> > 
> > I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
> > field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One
> > connected to one radio and one connected to the other.
> > 
> > One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police
> > department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on
> > it:
> > 
> > VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread MCH
Still, I would check both of those locations - it could be at or near 
one of them!

Joe M.

George Henry wrote:
> The ULS license data shows the transmitter location as 2200 Washington St, 
> Kaufman, TX, but that doesn't match up to the lat/lon coordinates which, as 
> Chris stated, are in the middle of a field near Oak Grove, according to 
> Google Earth.
> 
> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Butch Kanvick" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> 
> 
> 
> Chris
> You can go to the FCC website to find the license information and the 
> license will have the coordinates for the location of the repeaters or 
> bases, whatever you are looking for.Then punch the coordinates into Google 
> Maps and it should show the location of them.
> Butch, KE7FEL/r
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread MCH
Monitor the frequency on your department's radios to see if you hear 
anyone else on it (like the users of the '451.725' repeater).

Second, you can monitor the power of the '451.725' repeater and see if 
it keys up when you key up on your radios. If it does, it is mismarked 
or the frequency was changed (very common if interference showed up on 
the original frequency).

You didn't say who the user was supposed to be of the '451.725' repeater.

If yours is not at the site (and another test you can do is unplug the 
'451.725' repeater and see if your radios 'go dead' - again indicating 
that the labelled frequency is wrong), then you will have to try to find 
someone to DF your repeater's location. It's easy to do if you have the 
right equipment.

Joe M.

Christopher Hodgdon wrote:
> I wish I had a picture of the repeater house.  The frequency listed on the 
> MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department.  The other MTR2000, hook to 
> the other antenna, is the Schools PD.  I know those for a fact.  Now its time 
> to locate the other repeater system.  
> 
> The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus 
> is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over 
> them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to 
> key their radio.  But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their 
> frequency is so close to ours.
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:
>> The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained for
>> your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the school's
>> repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but can
>> only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
>> tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
>> configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same
>> with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a lot.
>> Gary
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
>>
>> Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of
>> thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some
>> new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to
>> them.
>>
>> Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of
>> our repeater.  The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does
>> not exist.  I know, I am pushing them to get it updated.  But that is
>> another story all together.
>>
>> I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
>> field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas.  One
>> connected to one radio and one connected to the other.
>>
>> One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police
>> department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on
>> it:
>>
>> VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331
>>
>> The other radio is marked the following:
>>
>> UHF: 451.725 / 456.725
>>
>> There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them
>> originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything about
>> them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what
>> frequencies that have listed.
>>
>>
>> Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located
>> anywhere physcially.  Our repeater pair is listed as:
>>
>> UHF: 451.750 / 456.750
>>
>> That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have been
>> able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which
>> frequency they were on.
>>
>> That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one
>> UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only
>> one can run at a time, right?
>>
>> Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed
>> into the unit and if so, how might we go about that?  Another reason I am
>> asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and
>> I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker 
>> wrote:
>>> The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs.  That being
>>> said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of
>>> frequencies at one time.
>>>
>>> -Brian / KF4ZWZ
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Christopher
>>> Hodgdon wrote:
 This is a question I have been asked and don't have an answer for.  This
>> could be for either amateur operation or commercial operation, but it
>> relates to the repeater itself

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread George Henry
The ULS license data shows the transmitter location as 2200 Washington St, 
Kaufman, TX, but that doesn't match up to the lat/lon coordinates which, as 
Chris stated, are in the middle of a field near Oak Grove, according to 
Google Earth.

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


- Original Message - 
From: "Butch Kanvick" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question



Chris
You can go to the FCC website to find the license information and the 
license will have the coordinates for the location of the repeaters or 
bases, whatever you are looking for.Then punch the coordinates into Google 
Maps and it should show the location of them.
Butch, KE7FEL/r



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Barry

If you are able to actively trigger the rptr then a simple df  and rx plus a 
few minutes looking will surely be a close to the location result ?

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: chris.hodg...@kaufman-ares.org
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:09:23 +
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question















 





  Problem is that they are licensed for 3 freqs. 2 UHF and 1 
VHF and I have confirmed that they are running on all three of them.  Its just 
know a matter of cat and mouse on the third repeater location.  As there is no 
one that works here anymore that knows where the radios are all located expect 
the 2 at the high school football field.



In fact the bus repeater as listed on its license is supposed to be located 
right in the middle of the intersection of a state highway and a US highway 
that runs through our town, while the GPS listed on the same license shows it 
to be about 20 miles south of that location in the middle of a cow pasture.



Will keep seeking, thanks for the help and input.



Chris KE5IGO



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Maire-Radios"  
wrote:

>

> how about one repeater but different tone codes?

> 

> or the repeater is at some other location.

> 

> John

>   - Original Message - 

>   From: Christopher Hodgdon 

>   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

>   Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM

>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

> 

> 

> I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the 
> MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to 
> the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time 
> to locate the other repeater system. 

> 

>   The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus 
> is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over 
> them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to 
> key their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency 
> is so close to ours.

> 

>   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:

>   >

>   > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained 
> for

>   > your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the 
> school's

>   > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but 
> can

>   > only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or

>   > tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to

>   > configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same

>   > with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a 
> lot.

>   > Gary

>   > 

>   > -Original Message-

>   > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

>   > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon

>   > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM

>   > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

>   > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

>   > 

>   > Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of

>   > thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain 
> some

>   > new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios 
> to

>   > them.

>   > 

>   > Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of

>   > our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork 
> does

>   > not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is

>   > another story all together.

>   > 

>   > I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football

>   > field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One

>   > connected to one radio and one connected to the other.

>   > 

>   > One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police

>   > department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on

>   > it:

>   > 

>   > VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331

>   > 

>   > The other radio is marked the following:

>   > 

>   > UHF: 451.725 / 456.725

>   > 

>   > There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them

>   > originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything 
> about

>   > them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what

>   > frequencies that have listed.

>   > 

>   > 

>   > Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located

>   > anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as:

>   > 

>   > UHF: 451.750 / 456.750

>   > 

>   > That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have 
> been

>   > able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which

>   > frequency they were on.

>   > 

>   > That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Butch Kanvick

Chris
You can go to the FCC website to find the license information and the license 
will have the coordinates for the location of the repeaters or bases, whatever 
you are looking for.Then punch the coordinates into Google Maps and it should 
show the location of them.
Butch, KE7FEL/r
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: chris.hodg...@kaufman-ares.org
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:31:51 +
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question















 





  I will have to check.  We have a lot of new hams that don't 
have much experience in trans. hunts, but it might be a very good exercise for 
our ARES program.  Will look into that.



It's sad, as the people that first started installing the radio out here when 
out of business, then next group that took over has no records of the repeater 
locations, the next group only installs in the buses themselves and another 
company came in and sold them them some of the Ht's that are use by maint. and 
mechs. and have no clue about anything else that the correct freq. to place 
them on.



The saga continues.



Thanks

Chris KE5IGO



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:

>

> You didn't mention the maintenance dept. having their own channel. If buses

> are using your channel (45x.750) then the repeater is likely at a higher

> location so it can better cover the area. If you've exhausted all available

> records, can't contact the previous tech, and can't find a dealer that knows

> where your repeater is then I'd suggest a good ol' fashioned transmitter

> hunt. Do you have any amateurs in your area that are up to the task?

> Gary

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon

> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:43 PM

> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

> 

> I wish I had a picture of the repeater house.  The frequency listed on the

> MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department.  The other MTR2000, hook

> to the other antenna, is the Schools PD.  I know those for a fact.  Now its

> time to locate the other repeater system.  

> 

> The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus

> is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over

> them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to

> key their radio.  But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their

> frequency is so close to ours.

>





 

  















RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Gary
You didn't mention the maintenance dept. having their own channel. If buses
are using your channel (45x.750) then the repeater is likely at a higher
location so it can better cover the area. If you've exhausted all available
records, can't contact the previous tech, and can't find a dealer that knows
where your repeater is then I'd suggest a good ol' fashioned transmitter
hunt. Do you have any amateurs in your area that are up to the task?
Gary

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:43 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

I wish I had a picture of the repeater house.  The frequency listed on the
MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department.  The other MTR2000, hook
to the other antenna, is the Schools PD.  I know those for a fact.  Now its
time to locate the other repeater system.  

The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus
is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over
them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to
key their radio.  But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their
frequency is so close to ours.




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Install a community tone panel.

 

 

Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ

6886 Sage Ave

Firestone, Co 80504

303-954-9695 Home

303-954-9693 Home Office & Fax

303-718-8052 Cellular

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of william...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:37 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

 

  

I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time.

 

bb

 

In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
maire-rad...@verizon.net writes:






how about one repeater but different tone codes?

 

or the repeater is at some other location.

 

John

- Original Message - 

From: Christopher Hodgdon <mailto:chris.hodg...@kaufman-ares.org>  

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

 

  

I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the
MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to
the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time
to locate the other repeater system. 

The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus
is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over
them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to
key their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their
frequency is so close to ours.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gary"  wrote:
>
> The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained
for
> your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the
school's
> repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but
can
> only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
> tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
> configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same
> with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a
lot.
> Gary
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hodgdon
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> 
> Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of
> thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain
some
> new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios
to
> them.
> 
> Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of
> our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork
does
> not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is
> another story all together.
> 
> I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
> field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One
> connected to one radio and one connected to the other.
> 
> One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police
> department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on
> it:
> 
> VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331
> 
> The other radio is marked the following:
> 
> UHF: 451.725 / 456.725
> 
> There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them
> originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything
about
> them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what
> frequencies that have listed.
> 
> 
> Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located
> anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as:
> 
> UHF: 451.750 / 456.750
> 
> That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have
been
> able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which
> frequency they were on.
> 
> That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the
one
> UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only
> one can run at a time, right?
> 
> Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is
programmed
> into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am
> asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future
and
> I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters.
> 
> Thanks in ad

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Maire-Radios
Just looked on the FCC data base and there are 2 school boards in Ca on the 725 
freg.  0 on the 750.

Need to check you paper work also.


  - Original Message - 
  From: william...@aol.com 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question



  I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time.

  bb

  In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
maire-rad...@verizon.net writes:



how about one repeater but different tone codes?

or the repeater is at some other location.

John
  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher Hodgdon 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question



  I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the 
MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to 
the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time to 
locate the other repeater system. 

  The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a 
bus is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over 
them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to key 
their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency is so 
close to ours.

  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:
  >
  > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained 
for
  > your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the 
school's
  > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but 
can
  > only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
  > tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
  > configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same
  > with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a 
lot.
  > Gary
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher 
Hodgdon
  > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
  > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
  > 
  > Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of
  > thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain 
some
  > new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new 
radios to
  > them.
  > 
  > Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location 
of
  > our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork 
does
  > not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is
  > another story all together.
  > 
  > I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
  > field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One
  > connected to one radio and one connected to the other.
  > 
  > One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police
  > department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed 
on
  > it:
  > 
  > VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331
  > 
  > The other radio is marked the following:
  > 
  > UHF: 451.725 / 456.725
  > 
  > There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of 
them
  > originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything 
about
  > them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and 
what
  > frequencies that have listed.
  > 
  > 
  > Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located
  > anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as:
  > 
  > UHF: 451.750 / 456.750
  > 
  > That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have 
been
  > able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see 
which
  > frequency they were on.
  > 
  > That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with 
the one
  > UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but 
only
  > one can run at a time, right?
  > 
  > Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is 
programmed
  > into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am
  > asking is that we might be upgrad

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Maire-Radios
as one time I had a VHF one that did both 91.x  and 167.

could only use one at a time but both would bring up the repeater when not in 
use.

John

  - Original Message - 
  From: william...@aol.com 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question



  I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time.

  bb

  In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
maire-rad...@verizon.net writes:



how about one repeater but different tone codes?

or the repeater is at some other location.

John
  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher Hodgdon 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question



  I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the 
MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to 
the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time to 
locate the other repeater system. 

  The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a 
bus is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over 
them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to key 
their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency is so 
close to ours.

  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:
  >
  > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained 
for
  > your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the 
school's
  > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but 
can
  > only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
  > tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
  > configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same
  > with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a 
lot.
  > Gary
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher 
Hodgdon
  > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
  > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
  > 
  > Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of
  > thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain 
some
  > new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new 
radios to
  > them.
  > 
  > Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location 
of
  > our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork 
does
  > not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is
  > another story all together.
  > 
  > I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
  > field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One
  > connected to one radio and one connected to the other.
  > 
  > One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police
  > department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed 
on
  > it:
  > 
  > VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331
  > 
  > The other radio is marked the following:
  > 
  > UHF: 451.725 / 456.725
  > 
  > There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of 
them
  > originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything 
about
  > them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and 
what
  > frequencies that have listed.
  > 
  > 
  > Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located
  > anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as:
  > 
  > UHF: 451.750 / 456.750
  > 
  > That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have 
been
  > able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see 
which
  > frequency they were on.
  > 
  > That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with 
the one
  > UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but 
only
  > one can run at a time, right?
  > 
  > Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is 
programmed
  > into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am
  > asking is that we might be upgrad

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread william474
I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time.
 
bb
 
 
In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
maire-rad...@verizon.net writes:



how about one repeater but  different tone codes?
 
or the repeater is at some  other location.
 
John

- Original Message - 
From:  _Christopher Hodgdon_ (mailto:chris.hodg...@kaufman-ares.org)  
To: _repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43  PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:  Motorola MTR2000 Question



I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the  
MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to 
 the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its 
time  to locate the other repeater system. 

The only odd ball thing I do  know is that every once in a while, when a 
bus is talking to another bus or  dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over 
them, but its most likely  another drive not paying attention and trying to 
key their radio. But I  wonder if it might be the maint. since their 
frequency is so close to  ours.

--- In _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) ,  "Gary"  wrote:
>
> The UHF repeater is likely  mismarked or the frequency info you obtained 
for
> your school's  license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the 
school's
>  repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but  
can
> only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a  dealer or
> tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software  necessary to
> configure it. Have them download its codeplug.  Recommend you do the same
> with your school radios. A comparison of  the data will likely answer a 
lot.
> Gary
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) 
>  [mailto:_repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) ]  On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009  4:29 PM
> To: _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) 
>  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
> 
>  Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind  of
> thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we  obtain 
some
> new buses and working with the company that will be  adding the new 
radios to
> them.
> 
> Over the last few  weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of
> our  repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork  
does
> not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But  that is
> another story all together.
> 
> I do have  access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
> field  and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One
>  connected to one radio and one connected to the other.
> 
> One  radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police
>  department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed  
on
> it:
> 
> VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL  331
> 
> The other radio is marked the following:
>  
> UHF: 451.725 / 456.725
> 
> There is no documentation  with this equipment, the person incharge of 
them
> originally left the  district some years ago and no one knows anything 
about
> them, expect  where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and 
what
>  frequencies that have listed.
> 
> 
> Which brings me back  to our department, we can find out repeater located
> anywhere  physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as:
> 
> UHF: 451.750 /  456.750
> 
> That is according to FCC, repeater listing and  other information I have 
been
> able to obtain and by listening to it  on a UHF amateur radio to see which
> frequency they were on.
>  
> That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked  with the 
one
> UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs  programmed into it, but 
only
> one can run at a time, right?
>  
> Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is  
programmed
> into the unit and if so, how might we go about that?  Another reason I am
> asking is that we might be upgrading our system  in the very near future 
and
> I might be able to get my hands on these  repeaters.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --- In _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ 
(mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) ,  Brian Raker 
> wrote:
> >
>  > The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs. That  being
> > said, it cannot operate more than one channel /  programmed pair of
> > frequencies at one time.
> >  
> > -Brian / KF4ZWZ
> > 
> > On Thu, Aug 13,  2009 at 3:23 PM, Christopher
> > Hodgdon  wrote:
> > > This is a question I have been asked and don't have  an answer for.  
This
> could be for either amateur operation or  commercial operation, but it
> relates to the repeater itself.
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Maire-Radios
how about one repeater but different tone codes?

or the repeater is at some other location.

John
  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher Hodgdon 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question


I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the 
MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to 
the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time to 
locate the other repeater system. 

  The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus 
is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over them, 
but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to key their 
radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency is so close 
to ours.

  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:
  >
  > The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained for
  > your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the school's
  > repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but can
  > only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
  > tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
  > configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same
  > with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a lot.
  > Gary
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
  > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
  > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
  > 
  > Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of
  > thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some
  > new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to
  > them.
  > 
  > Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of
  > our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does
  > not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is
  > another story all together.
  > 
  > I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
  > field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One
  > connected to one radio and one connected to the other.
  > 
  > One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police
  > department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on
  > it:
  > 
  > VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331
  > 
  > The other radio is marked the following:
  > 
  > UHF: 451.725 / 456.725
  > 
  > There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them
  > originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything about
  > them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what
  > frequencies that have listed.
  > 
  > 
  > Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located
  > anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as:
  > 
  > UHF: 451.750 / 456.750
  > 
  > That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have been
  > able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which
  > frequency they were on.
  > 
  > That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one
  > UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only
  > one can run at a time, right?
  > 
  > Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed
  > into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am
  > asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and
  > I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters.
  > 
  > Thanks in advance.
  > 
  > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker 
  > wrote:
  > >
  > > The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs. That being
  > > said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of
  > > frequencies at one time.
  > > 
  > > -Brian / KF4ZWZ
  > > 
  > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Christopher
  > > Hodgdon wrote:
  > > > This is a question I have been asked and don't have an answer for.  This
  > could be for either amateur operation or commercial operation, but it
  > relates to the repeater itself.
  > > >
  > > > Can a Motorola MTR2000 setup on UHF be setup to function as a repeater
  > on more than one pair of frequencies?  I know looking at the brochure on the
  > website, it says that the NO. of Frequencies are upto 32.
  > > >
  > > > Does that mean it can handle two different sets of repeater pairs at the
  > same time in the same radio?
  > > >
  > > > These are commercial frequencie

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Maire-Radios
I have seen it in the past that a repeater would come in from Motorola on the 
wrong freg because the rep ordered it wrong   then the service made the 
corrections and that could be your current freg.  

John


  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher Hodgdon 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:29 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question


Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of 
thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some new 
buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to them.

  Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of our 
repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does not 
exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is another story 
all together.

  I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football field 
and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One connected to one 
radio and one connected to the other.

  One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police 
department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on it:

  VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331

  The other radio is marked the following:

  UHF: 451.725 / 456.725

  There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them 
originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything about 
them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what 
frequencies that have listed.

  Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located 
anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as:

  UHF: 451.750 / 456.750

  That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have been 
able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which 
frequency they were on.

  That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one 
UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only one 
can run at a time, right?

  Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed 
into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am asking 
is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and I might be 
able to get my hands on these repeaters.

  Thanks in advance.

  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker  wrote:
  >
  > The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs. That being
  > said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of
  > frequencies at one time.
  > 
  > -Brian / KF4ZWZ
  > 
  > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Christopher
  > Hodgdon wrote:
  > > This is a question I have been asked and don't have an answer for.  This 
could be for either amateur operation or commercial operation, but it relates 
to the repeater itself.
  > >
  > > Can a Motorola MTR2000 setup on UHF be setup to function as a repeater on 
more than one pair of frequencies?  I know looking at the brochure on the 
website, it says that the NO. of Frequencies are upto 32.
  > >
  > > Does that mean it can handle two different sets of repeater pairs at the 
same time in the same radio?
  > >
  > > These are commercial frequencies I am listed at commercial, but they are 
for example purposes:
  > >
  > > Can the following setup work with the MTR2000?
  > >
  > > Frequency Pair 1: 451.725/456.725
  > > Frequency Pair 2: 451.750/456.750
  > >
  > > Can one MTR2000 handle both of these at the same time?
  > >
  > > Thank in advance.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > 
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >



  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Gary
The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained for
your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the school's
repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but can
only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or
tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to
configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same
with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a lot.
Gary

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of
thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some
new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to
them.

Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of
our repeater.  The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does
not exist.  I know, I am pushing them to get it updated.  But that is
another story all together.

I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football
field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas.  One
connected to one radio and one connected to the other.

One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police
department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on
it:

VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331

The other radio is marked the following:

UHF: 451.725 / 456.725

There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them
originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything about
them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what
frequencies that have listed.


Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located
anywhere physcially.  Our repeater pair is listed as:

UHF: 451.750 / 456.750

That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have been
able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which
frequency they were on.

That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one
UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only
one can run at a time, right?

Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed
into the unit and if so, how might we go about that?  Another reason I am
asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and
I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters.

Thanks in advance.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker 
wrote:
>
> The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs.  That being
> said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of
> frequencies at one time.
> 
> -Brian / KF4ZWZ
> 
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Christopher
> Hodgdon wrote:
> > This is a question I have been asked and don't have an answer for.  This
could be for either amateur operation or commercial operation, but it
relates to the repeater itself.
> >
> > Can a Motorola MTR2000 setup on UHF be setup to function as a repeater
on more than one pair of frequencies?  I know looking at the brochure on the
website, it says that the NO. of Frequencies are upto 32.
> >
> > Does that mean it can handle two different sets of repeater pairs at the
same time in the same radio?
> >
> > These are commercial frequencies I am listed at commercial, but they are
for example purposes:
> >
> > Can the following setup work with the MTR2000?
> >
> > Frequency Pair 1: 451.725/456.725
> > Frequency Pair 2: 451.750/456.750
> >
> > Can one MTR2000 handle both of these at the same time?
> >
> > Thank in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>








Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question

2009-08-13 Thread Brian Raker
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Christopher
Hodgdon wrote:


> I do have access to a "radio house" located at our high school football field 
> and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas.  One connected to 
> one radio and one connected to the other.
>

Two antennas, two radios.  Should be a duplexer for each radio, and
duplexers are not easily field tuned.  For all intents, these radios
are both hardset to the freqs they are programmed to, and apparently
currently operating on.


>
> That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one 
> UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only 
> one can run at a time, right?
>

Possible.  But doubtful as listed above.

> Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed 
> into the unit and if so, how might we go about that?  Another reason I am 
> asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and I 
> might be able to get my hands on these repeaters.
>

Yep.  RVN4148, Motorola's RSS/CPP for the MTR2000.  Also, the
interface cable is 30-82056X02, RJ45 - DB9 serial interface.

> Thanks in advance.

No problem!

>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker  wrote:
>>
>> The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs.  That being
>> said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of
>> frequencies at one time.
>>
>> -Brian / KF4ZWZ
>>