Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
The slugs can be feed with MEK. However, you cannot get the high/high-high 
split filter to tune to 146 MHz. The coils have to be changes as well as 
the capacitors. I have converted some with little problem. After 
conversion, the filter should be tuned with a sweep generator to get the 
filter somewhat flat over the frequencies that you want to use the radio. 
The filter in a mobile usually does not have epoxy filling the coil form.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

At 09:41 PM 06/03/04, you wrote:
>I have a micor base/repeater station and the second bpf the one attached to
>the tripler needs to be tuned problem is that the tuning screws are epoxied
>in and I can't clean them up so I need a new one but don't know where to get
>one can someone help me out???
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread David
will a vhf one work on a uhf repeater?


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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need


> The slugs can be feed with MEK. However, you cannot get the high/high-high
> split filter to tune to 146 MHz. The coils have to be changes as well as
> the capacitors. I have converted some with little problem. After
> conversion, the filter should be tuned with a sweep generator to get the
> filter somewhat flat over the frequencies that you want to use the radio.
> The filter in a mobile usually does not have epoxy filling the coil form.
>
> 73
> Glenn
> WB4UIV
>
> At 09:41 PM 06/03/04, you wrote:
> >I have a micor base/repeater station and the second bpf the one attached
to
> >the tripler needs to be tuned problem is that the tuning screws are
epoxied
> >in and I can't clean them up so I need a new one but don't know where to
get
> >one can someone help me out???
> >
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:09 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>will a vhf one work on a uhf repeater?

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread David
well you must of been lucky as mine are epoxied over so that I can't even
get a allen key in there

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> At 10:09 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >will a vhf one work on a uhf repeater?
>
> <No. That filter is in the output of the tripler. Therefore it needs
to
> be UHF.
>
> As for the epoxied slugs, I used some acetone and CAREFULLY worked them
> back and forth with a high quality allen wrench. A little patience and
> careful work allowed me to free every single one.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Ken
> --

> President and CTO - Arcom Communications
> Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:30 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>well you must of been lucky as mine are epoxied over so that I can't even
>get a allen key in there

<---Acetone and an Exacto knife will eventually clear it out :-)

Ken
(patience is a virtue, especially if you're a doctor <---poetic license)

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread David
well they are magnetic

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> At 10:41 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >how about another way take the screws out the bottom punch out the epoxy
run
> >a tap through to clean up the threads then make some new screws out of
10X32
> >1" long machine screw by cutting the heads off and putting a cut in the
top
> >for a screw driver so that you can tune them up.
>
> <---I'm not sure there is enough room inside to get a beefy enough pair of
> needle nose in there to do that but maybe there is. I guess replacing the
> screws entirely would work, as they looked like plated steel to me but I
> might be wrong about that..
>
> Ken
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:41 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>how about another way take the screws out the bottom punch out the epoxy run
>a tap through to clean up the threads then make some new screws out of 10X32
>1" long machine screw by cutting the heads off and putting a cut in the top
>for a screw driver so that you can tune them up.

<---I'm not sure there is enough room inside to get a beefy enough pair of
needle nose in there to do that but maybe there is. I guess replacing the
screws entirely would work, as they looked like plated steel to me but I
might be wrong about that..

Ken
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread David
they came out fairly easy

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From: "Ken Arck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> At 10:41 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >how about another way take the screws out the bottom punch out the epoxy
run
> >a tap through to clean up the threads then make some new screws out of
10X32
> >1" long machine screw by cutting the heads off and putting a cut in the
top
> >for a screw driver so that you can tune them up.
>
> <---I'm not sure there is enough room inside to get a beefy enough pair of
> needle nose in there to do that but maybe there is. I guess replacing the
> screws entirely would work, as they looked like plated steel to me but I
> might be wrong about that..
>
> Ken
> --

> President and CTO - Arcom Communications
> Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
> http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
> AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have one in a UHF 75-Watt MICOR repeater with the same problem. I've
unsoldered the cover that has to come off, and on this particular one, the
slugs are so frozen that the hex-head tool now won't fit anymore in the
slugs - they've become rounded out and just can't be gripped with anything.
So if anyone has another set besides the one David needs, I could sure use
one, too. It will finish up another UHF Repeater - everything else works
fine.

LJ


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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:41:39 -0400
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] help I need


I have a micor base/repeater station and the second bpf the one attached to
the tripler needs to be tuned problem is that the tuning screws are epoxied
in and I can't clean them up so I need a new one but don't know where to get
one can someone help me out???





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread David
how about another way take the screws out the bottom punch out the epoxy run
a tap through to clean up the threads then make some new screws out of 10X32
1" long machine screw by cutting the heads off and putting a cut in the top
for a screw driver so that you can tune them up.

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From: "Ken Arck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need


> At 10:30 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >well you must of been lucky as mine are epoxied over so that I can't even
> >get a allen key in there
>
> <---Acetone and an Exacto knife will eventually clear it out :-)
>
> Ken
> (patience is a virtue, especially if you're a doctor <---poetic license)
>
> --

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread David
have you tried to remove the bottom plate and take the screws out from the
bottom with a pair of needle nose pliers. it worked on mine
and I found a set of set screws at mcmaster car 3/4" chrome plate steel
10x32 thread for 5.67. then just clean the threads up with a tap and put the
new ones in reassemble and tune it up. I am going to try this if nothing
else becomes available.

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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] help I need


> I have one in a UHF 75-Watt MICOR repeater with the same problem. I've
> unsoldered the cover that has to come off, and on this particular one, the
> slugs are so frozen that the hex-head tool now won't fit anymore in the
> slugs - they've become rounded out and just can't be gripped with
anything.
> So if anyone has another set besides the one David needs, I could sure use
> one, too. It will finish up another UHF Repeater - everything else works
> fine.
>
> LJ
>
>
> Original Message:
> -
> From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 21:41:39 -0400
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] help I need
>
>
> I have a micor base/repeater station and the second bpf the one attached
to
> the tripler needs to be tuned problem is that the tuning screws are
epoxied
> in and I can't clean them up so I need a new one but don't know where to
get
> one can someone help me out???
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
Turn the filter upside down with the screw heads in a tray of
acetone over night.  Put the whole mess in a large glass
casserole dish with a lid to minimize the evaporation
(I bought a old one at the thrift store for $1 just to prevent
the flack from the wife).  Anyway after soaking the epoxy
in the acetone for 10 to 12 hours an xacto knife tip will
pop out the epoxy.

Mike

At 10:30 PM 6/3/04 -0400, you wrote:

>well you must of been lucky as mine are epoxied over so that I can't even
>get a allen key in there
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ken Arck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need
>
>
> > At 10:09 PM 6/3/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> > >will a vhf one work on a uhf repeater?
> >
> > <No. That filter is in the output of the tripler. Therefore it needs
>to
> > be UHF.
> >
> > As for the epoxied slugs, I used some acetone and CAREFULLY worked them
> > back and forth with a high quality allen wrench. A little patience and
> > careful work allowed me to free every single one.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Ken
> > --
>
> > President and CTO - Arcom Communications
> > Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
> > http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html
> > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
> > http://www.irlp.net
> >
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread David
on a micor base/ repeater. can the ciculator be tuned on the bench with no
power to it or does the white plug need to be connect and the repeater
powered.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] help I need

2004-06-04 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
At 11:02 AM 6/4/04 -0400, you wrote:

>on a micor base/ repeater. can the ciculator be tuned on the bench with no
>power to it or does the white plug need to be connect and the repeater
>powered.

It's kinda hard to tune anything without power.  Yes, some
equipment (like low band Mitreks) have preset positions you
start from, but fine tuning always has to be done under power.

Circulator theory - well worth reading - is at


There is info on the mobile circulator at

Look under "step 5".

More info at


Mike WA6ILQ 





 
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