Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[Cowboy]

On Tuesday 30 January 2018 06:01:57 pm Andy Higginson wrote:
> Ah, so that explains why you said earlier about pushing it up the list.

 Well, yes, and no...

> I didn’t realise that you looked after the Rivendell server.  

 I don't !
 It's housed here. Power, bandwidth, and such, but really it's Fred's thing.
 ( which doesn't mean I don't have the power of suggestion )

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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[Andy Higginson]

Ah, so that explains why you said earlier about pushing it up the list.  I 
didn’t realise that you looked after the Rivendell server.  Is a Wiki something 
that you or Fred are able to add to the main server (rather than it being on 
the Tryphon server), or is this something that you would want hosted elsewhere? 
 I know there are a few of us here that would be able to contribute to 
populating it with content.



> On 30 Jan 2018, at 21:59, Cowboy  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:18:33 +
> Andy Higginson  wrote:
> 
>> Is the main Rivendell website hosted via Tryphon or is it on one of 
>> Paravel’s servers?
> 
> Unless I'm very badly misteaken, it's about 12 feet from my desk.
> One of Paravel.
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[Cowboy]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:18:33 +
Andy Higginson  wrote:

> Is the main Rivendell website hosted via Tryphon or is it on one of Paravel’s 
> servers?

 Unless I'm very badly misteaken, it's about 12 feet from my desk.
 One of Paravel.

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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[Andy Higginson]

I’ve just seen this on the Tryphon website via their Twitter Account.

Chers Clients, chers amis. C'est non sans émotion que nous devons vous annoncer 
la fermeture prochaine de Tryphon. Merci pour ces années de confiance et au 
plaisir de vous recroiser à nouveau.

Translated via Google
Dear Clients, dear friends. It is not without emotion that we must announce the 
next closing of Tryphon. Thank you for these years of trust and the pleasure of 
meeting you again.

Based on this, I think that we need to look into an alternative host for the 
Wiki as I doubt that any new accounts will be added, and we don’t know how long 
they will keep their servers up for.  The version of MediaWiki on the Tryphon 
server is v1.15.5 which is from July 2010.

Is the main Rivendell website hosted via Tryphon or is it on one of Paravel’s 
servers?


> On 30 Jan 2018, at 15:28, David Klann  wrote:
> 
> On 01/30/2018 07:36 AM, drew Roberts wrote:
>> IIRC,
>> 
>> this is the company behind the wiki hosting:
>> 
>> http://www.tryphon.eu/en/ 
>> 
>> and this is the main person who set it up:
>> 
>> http://blog.tryphon.org/alban/ 
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/apeignier 
>> 
>> all the best,
> 
> I believe this is still accurate. I sent email requesting a wiki login a
> couple years ago, and *did* receive one after about six or seven months.
> It rather seems as if the Tryphon folks have moved on to other things at
> this point.
> 
> I concur with others' views that Open Source and Free Software "support"
> tools are most appropriate for this community. I maintain a couple other
> MediaWiki sites, and I like the "familiarity" and the similarity with
> Wikipedia, but MediaWiki is certainly not the only choice out there.
> 
> I just logged out of GitHub and observed that the wiki link disappears
> when one is not logged in. :(
> 
> I'm willing to help move articles from the Tryphon Rivendell wiki to
> whatever we collectively choose for a more modern platform.
> 
>  ~David
> 

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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[David Klann]

On 01/30/2018 07:36 AM, drew Roberts wrote:
> IIRC,
> 
> this is the company behind the wiki hosting:
> 
> http://www.tryphon.eu/en/
> 
> and this is the main person who set it up:
> 
> http://blog.tryphon.org/alban/
> 
> https://twitter.com/apeignier
> 
> all the best,

I believe this is still accurate. I sent email requesting a wiki login a
couple years ago, and *did* receive one after about six or seven months.
It rather seems as if the Tryphon folks have moved on to other things at
this point.

I concur with others' views that Open Source and Free Software "support"
tools are most appropriate for this community. I maintain a couple other
MediaWiki sites, and I like the "familiarity" and the similarity with
Wikipedia, but MediaWiki is certainly not the only choice out there.

I just logged out of GitHub and observed that the wiki link disappears
when one is not logged in. :(

I'm willing to help move articles from the Tryphon Rivendell wiki to
whatever we collectively choose for a more modern platform.

  ~David


> 
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Andy Higginson  > wrote:
> 
> __
> Who looks after the Wiki now?  Is it possible for some of us to get
> login details so that we can update it?  Patrick mentioned that he
> had tried to get access to it and hadn't had any reply.  It would be
> good if it could be a Rivendell community project, not something
> that falls on the shoulders of one person (though Cowboy we are very
> grateful for all your contributions and support).
> 
> 
>  On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 00:33:24 + *Cowboy  >* wrote 
> 
> On Monday 29 January 2018 06:36:08 pm Andy Higginson wrote:
> > How we go about all of this I don’t know.  However I do think
> it could be time for the Wiki to be rebuilt from scratch - this
> possibly being easier than trying to edit all of the articles to
> make them up to date.
> >
> 
> I can't promise that it'll happen, but I can promise to push it
> up the list.
> 
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[drew Roberts]

IIRC,

this is the company behind the wiki hosting:

http://www.tryphon.eu/en/

and this is the main person who set it up:

http://blog.tryphon.org/alban/

https://twitter.com/apeignier

all the best,

drew

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Andy Higginson  wrote:

> Who looks after the Wiki now?  Is it possible for some of us to get login
> details so that we can update it?  Patrick mentioned that he had tried to
> get access to it and hadn't had any reply.  It would be good if it could be
> a Rivendell community project, not something that falls on the shoulders of
> one person (though Cowboy we are very grateful for all your contributions
> and support).
>
>
>  On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 00:33:24 + *Cowboy  >* wrote 
>
> On Monday 29 January 2018 06:36:08 pm Andy Higginson wrote:
> > How we go about all of this I don’t know.  However I do think it could
> be time for the Wiki to be rebuilt from scratch - this possibly being
> easier than trying to edit all of the articles to make them up to date.
> >
>
> I can't promise that it'll happen, but I can promise to push it up the
> list.
>
> --
> Cowboy
>
> http://cowboy.cwf1.com
>
> God rest ye CS students now,
> Let nothing you dismay.
> The VAX is down and won't be up,
> Until the first of May.
> The program that was due this morn,
> Won't be postponed, they say.
>
> Oh, tidings of comfort and joy,
> Comfort and joy,
> Oh, tidings of comfort and joy.
>
> The bearings on the drum are gone,
> The disk is wobbling, too.
> We've found a bug in Lisp, and Algol
> Can't tell false from true.
> And now we find that we can't get
> At Berkeley's 4.2.
>
> (chorus)
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website and Wiki

[Andy Higginson]

Who looks after the Wiki now?  Is it possible for some of us to get login 
details so that we can update it?  Patrick mentioned that he had tried to get 
access to it and hadn't had any reply.  It would be good if it could be a 
Rivendell community project, not something that falls on the shoulders of one 
person (though Cowboy we are very grateful for all your contributions and 
support).





 On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 00:33:24 + Cowboy  wrote 




On Monday 29 January 2018 06:36:08 pm Andy Higginson wrote:

> How we go about all of this I don’t know.  However I do think it could be 
time for the Wiki to be rebuilt from scratch - this possibly being easier than 
trying to edit all of the articles to make them up to date.

> 



 I can't promise that it'll happen, but I can promise to push it up the list.



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God rest ye CS students now,

Let nothing you dismay.

The VAX is down and won't be up,

Until the first of May.

The program that was due this morn,

Won't be postponed, they say.



Oh, tidings of comfort and joy,

Comfort and joy,

Oh, tidings of comfort and joy.



The bearings on the drum are gone,

The disk is wobbling, too.

We've found a bug in Lisp, and Algol

Can't tell false from true.

And now we find that we can't get

At Berkeley's 4.2.



(chorus)

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