Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
I will Look Into your suggestions and see if they work. We For purposes of security We will set this up on an production terminal. But We will see how wil this solution works. On 2018-03-01 08:37, Jonathan Cohen wrote: Hi All! The radiotools.uk site is actually one of mine and that's how we do remote voicetracking at First 105.1 FM in Oxford, UK. :-) Basically you install the ALSA/Jack bridge and set Rivendell up to talk to that. Then any ALSA application (VoIP, Chromium etc) can send and receive audio to it. We no longer use VoIP but a website called cleanfeed.net with Chromium installed as a web browser on the Rivendell machine people will remote to. We also use Guacamole for remote desktop access. So all a remote presenter has to do is open Chrome, click two links (one for the remote desktop in the browser and the other for the Cleanfeed site for audio) and they're ready to go as if they were in the studio. This also means there's no software for the remote user to install (no need for VoIP, Teamviewer, VPN or RDP setup as we used to have). If there are any questions I'll try and answer them. :-) Jonathan Jonathan Cohen Director - Broadcast Ltd, Oxford UK. jonat...@readyformed.com -Original Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: 21 February 2018 17:33 To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups We have not tried the following, but we do have a Telecom guy who is looking into it. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the remote voice-tracking link. Looks much simpler than a solution that involves exporting logs, recording tracks, then having someone drop them back into a log. http://www.radiotools.uk/rivendell/ --Chuck W. On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:06:29 -0500 ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com wrote: Subject: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups 1.)I would like to know if anyone has a solution for voice tracking. I am thinking to have a couple people voice track for us There are several ways to do it but the easiest is to have the record the Tracks and send them Thru a Drop Box acount. We look in to having them log in to the computer Thru Like a log me in account but we don't feel Comfortable doing that. Do anyone have any solutions on this. 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell. Its a tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. the send it over the netorn to another machine. How can you get access to the logs Does anyone have a better solution. 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the log in a web Page format Like running a web server. 4.) Has anyone tried loading PHPMYADMIN On CENOS6. 5. Backing Up Database and Music Library Does anyone have a easy way to do this. I would like to Make backups Of both and mysql data Base. I prefer GUI Solution Thanks ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
Hi All! The radiotools.uk site is actually one of mine and that's how we do remote voicetracking at First 105.1 FM in Oxford, UK. :-) Basically you install the ALSA/Jack bridge and set Rivendell up to talk to that. Then any ALSA application (VoIP, Chromium etc) can send and receive audio to it. We no longer use VoIP but a website called cleanfeed.net with Chromium installed as a web browser on the Rivendell machine people will remote to. We also use Guacamole for remote desktop access. So all a remote presenter has to do is open Chrome, click two links (one for the remote desktop in the browser and the other for the Cleanfeed site for audio) and they're ready to go as if they were in the studio. This also means there's no software for the remote user to install (no need for VoIP, Teamviewer, VPN or RDP setup as we used to have). If there are any questions I'll try and answer them. :-) Jonathan Jonathan Cohen Director - Broadcast Ltd, Oxford UK. jonat...@readyformed.com -Original Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: 21 February 2018 17:33 To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups We have not tried the following, but we do have a Telecom guy who is looking into it. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the remote voice-tracking link. Looks much simpler than a solution that involves exporting logs, recording tracks, then having someone drop them back into a log. http://www.radiotools.uk/rivendell/ --Chuck W. On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:06:29 -0500 ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com wrote: > Subject: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups > 1.)I would like to know if anyone has a solution for voice tracking. > I am thinking to have a couple people voice track for us There are > several ways to do it but the easiest is to have the record the Tracks > and send them Thru a Drop Box acount. We look in to having them log > in to the computer Thru Like a log me in account but we don't feel > Comfortable doing that. Do anyone have any solutions on this. > 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell. > Its a tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. > the send it over the netorn to another machine. How can you get > access to the logs Does anyone have a better solution. > 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the log in a web > Page format Like running a web server. > 4.) Has anyone tried loading PHPMYADMIN On CENOS6. > 5. Backing Up Database and Music Library Does anyone have a easy way > to do this. I would like to Make backups Of both and mysql data Base. > I prefer GUI Solution > > Thanks ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
There isn’t anything different the talent has to do. The magic is handled by the rsync scripts which run in cron. Every 15 minutes I run an rsync script that checks if there are any new voice tracks to send to the server. If there are, it sends them. Every night at midnight I have an rsync script that checks for new audio files (music, sweepers, etc) that have been added to the server. All new content is downloaded to /var/snd on the remote computer. This is all handled behind the scenes. The talent just runs RdLogEdit like normal. The only thing we can’t do remotely is RdAirplay because it is too SQL intensive. With good internet access, RdAirplay would probably work too. It is a hack, but we’ve been doing this for a year without any issues. We have 2 remote studios. Patrick > On Feb 21, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Al Peterson <apeter...@radioamerica.com> wrote: > > Good. To expand a bit, is it much of an ordeal for outside talent to connect > into the host system and start things up? > > That is to say, what's involved in establishing that VPN connection from the > start, does talent necessarily need to know about the inner workings of SQL > and where var/snd is, and is this something that can be done remotely on the > talent's Windows or Mac machine? > > As both a techie and a performer, simplicity of process for the benefit of a > good performance is highly valued. > > AP > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Patrick <patr...@scnv.net > <mailto:patr...@scnv.net>> wrote: > Other than the minimal delays (like when you hit the record button), it works > exactly the same as being local. > > It may be better where you’re at. I live in the sticks and the Rivendell > server is on a 6MB/768K DSL line. > > Patrick > > >> On Feb 21, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Al Peterson <apeter...@radioamerica.com >> <mailto:apeter...@radioamerica.com>> wrote: >> >> Patrick, how transparent / intuitive / easy is it for talent to be able to >> operate it using this method? >> >> Alan Peterson KJ4IVD CBT/CEA >> National Production Director, Radio America Network >> Arlington VA USA >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Patrick <patr...@scnv.net >> <mailto:patr...@scnv.net>> wrote: >> We do remote voice tracking by doing the following: >> >> 1) Establish a VPN from remote locations to main Rivendell server location. >> >> 2) Remote Rivendell configurations use SQL server over VPN on main Rivendell >> server. >> >> 3) Remote Rivendell configurations use their own local copy of /var/snd. >> >> 4) Remote and main Rivendell server keep /var/snd in sync using “rsync” >> scripts over VPN. >> >> The way Rivendell does SQL queries is not very efficient, so other than mild >> delays while RdLogEdit talks SQL over the VPN, the system works quite well. >> >> Patrick >> >> > On Feb 21, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Chuck <dj.chuc...@googlemail.com >> > <mailto:dj.chuc...@googlemail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > We have not tried the following, but we do have a Telecom guy who is >> > looking into it. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the >> > remote voice-tracking link. Looks much simpler than a solution that >> > involves exporting logs, recording tracks, then having someone drop them >> > back into a log. >> > >> > http://www.radiotools.uk/rivendell/ <http://www.radiotools.uk/rivendell/> >> > >> > --Chuck W. >> > >> > On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:06:29 -0500 >> > ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com <mailto:ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com> wrote: >> >> Subject: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups >> > >> >> 1.)I would like to know if anyone has a solution for voice tracking. I >> >> am thinking to have a couple people voice track for us There are several >> >> ways to do it but the easiest is to have the record the Tracks and send >> >> them Thru a Drop Box acount. We look in to having them log in to the >> >> computer Thru Like a log me in account but we don't feel Comfortable >> >> doing that. Do anyone have any solutions on this. >> >> 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell. >> >> Its a tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. the >> >> send it over the netorn to another machine. How can you get access to >> >> the logs Does anyone have a better solution. >> >> 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the lo
Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
Other than the minimal delays (like when you hit the record button), it works exactly the same as being local. It may be better where you’re at. I live in the sticks and the Rivendell server is on a 6MB/768K DSL line. Patrick > On Feb 21, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Al Peterson <apeter...@radioamerica.com> wrote: > > Patrick, how transparent / intuitive / easy is it for talent to be able to > operate it using this method? > > Alan Peterson KJ4IVD CBT/CEA > National Production Director, Radio America Network > Arlington VA USA > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Patrick <patr...@scnv.net > <mailto:patr...@scnv.net>> wrote: > We do remote voice tracking by doing the following: > > 1) Establish a VPN from remote locations to main Rivendell server location. > > 2) Remote Rivendell configurations use SQL server over VPN on main Rivendell > server. > > 3) Remote Rivendell configurations use their own local copy of /var/snd. > > 4) Remote and main Rivendell server keep /var/snd in sync using “rsync” > scripts over VPN. > > The way Rivendell does SQL queries is not very efficient, so other than mild > delays while RdLogEdit talks SQL over the VPN, the system works quite well. > > Patrick > > > On Feb 21, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Chuck <dj.chuc...@googlemail.com > > <mailto:dj.chuc...@googlemail.com>> wrote: > > > > We have not tried the following, but we do have a Telecom guy who is > > looking into it. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the > > remote voice-tracking link. Looks much simpler than a solution that > > involves exporting logs, recording tracks, then having someone drop them > > back into a log. > > > > http://www.radiotools.uk/rivendell/ <http://www.radiotools.uk/rivendell/> > > > > --Chuck W. > > > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:06:29 -0500 > > ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com <mailto:ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com> wrote: > >> Subject: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups > > > >> 1.)I would like to know if anyone has a solution for voice tracking. I > >> am thinking to have a couple people voice track for us There are several > >> ways to do it but the easiest is to have the record the Tracks and send > >> them Thru a Drop Box acount. We look in to having them log in to the > >> computer Thru Like a log me in account but we don't feel Comfortable > >> doing that. Do anyone have any solutions on this. > >> 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell. > >> Its a tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. the > >> send it over the netorn to another machine. How can you get access to > >> the logs Does anyone have a better solution. > >> 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the log in a web Page > >> format Like running a web server. > >> 4.) Has anyone tried loading PHPMYADMIN On CENOS6. > >> 5. Backing Up Database and Music Library Does anyone have a easy way to > >> do this. I would like to Make backups Of both and mysql data Base. I > >> prefer GUI Solution > >> > >> Thanks > > > > > > ___ > > Rivendell-dev mailing list > > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > > <mailto:Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> > > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > <http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev> > > > > > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > <mailto:Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > <http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev> > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
We do remote voice tracking by doing the following: 1) Establish a VPN from remote locations to main Rivendell server location. 2) Remote Rivendell configurations use SQL server over VPN on main Rivendell server. 3) Remote Rivendell configurations use their own local copy of /var/snd. 4) Remote and main Rivendell server keep /var/snd in sync using “rsync” scripts over VPN. The way Rivendell does SQL queries is not very efficient, so other than mild delays while RdLogEdit talks SQL over the VPN, the system works quite well. Patrick > On Feb 21, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Chuck <dj.chuc...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > We have not tried the following, but we do have a Telecom guy who is > looking into it. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the > remote voice-tracking link. Looks much simpler than a solution that > involves exporting logs, recording tracks, then having someone drop them > back into a log. > > http://www.radiotools.uk/rivendell/ > > --Chuck W. > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:06:29 -0500 > ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com wrote: >> Subject: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups > >> 1.)I would like to know if anyone has a solution for voice tracking. I >> am thinking to have a couple people voice track for us There are several >> ways to do it but the easiest is to have the record the Tracks and send >> them Thru a Drop Box acount. We look in to having them log in to the >> computer Thru Like a log me in account but we don't feel Comfortable >> doing that. Do anyone have any solutions on this. >> 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell. >> Its a tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. the >> send it over the netorn to another machine. How can you get access to >> the logs Does anyone have a better solution. >> 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the log in a web Page >> format Like running a web server. >> 4.) Has anyone tried loading PHPMYADMIN On CENOS6. >> 5. Backing Up Database and Music Library Does anyone have a easy way to >> do this. I would like to Make backups Of both and mysql data Base. I >> prefer GUI Solution >> >> Thanks > > > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
We have not tried the following, but we do have a Telecom guy who is looking into it. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the remote voice-tracking link. Looks much simpler than a solution that involves exporting logs, recording tracks, then having someone drop them back into a log. http://www.radiotools.uk/rivendell/ --Chuck W. On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:06:29 -0500 ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com wrote: > Subject: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups > 1.)I would like to know if anyone has a solution for voice tracking. I > am thinking to have a couple people voice track for us There are several > ways to do it but the easiest is to have the record the Tracks and send > them Thru a Drop Box acount. We look in to having them log in to the > computer Thru Like a log me in account but we don't feel Comfortable > doing that. Do anyone have any solutions on this. > 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell. > Its a tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. the > send it over the netorn to another machine. How can you get access to > the logs Does anyone have a better solution. > 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the log in a web Page > format Like running a web server. > 4.) Has anyone tried loading PHPMYADMIN On CENOS6. > 5. Backing Up Database and Music Library Does anyone have a easy way to > do this. I would like to Make backups Of both and mysql data Base. I > prefer GUI Solution > > Thanks ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
Rivendell provides Web APIs for a lot of its functions, and has several web
pages in the /var/www/rd-bin directory. For example,
http://.../rd-bin/listlog.html will list the contents of a log, in XML
form. ("..." is your Rivendell machine's IP address.) The pages are very
basic, mostly proof of concept or testing; certainly not user-friendly.
Mike
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> 1.)I would like to know if anyone has a solution for voice tracking. I
> am thinking to have a couple people voice track for us There are several
> ways to do it but the easiest is to have the record the Tracks and send
> them Thru a Drop Box acount. We look in to having them log in to the
> computer Thru Like a log me in account but we don't feel Comfortable
> doing that. Do anyone have any solutions on this.
> 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell.
> Its a tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. the
> send it over the netorn to another machine. How can you get access to
> the logs Does anyone have a better solution.
> 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the log in a web Page
> format Like running a web server.
> 4.) Has anyone tried loading PHPMYADMIN On CENOS6.
> 5. Backing Up Database and Music Library Does anyone have a easy way to
> do this. I would like to Make backups Of both and mysql data Base. I
> prefer GUI Solution
>
> Thanks
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Re: [RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
Hello, > On 21 Feb 2018, at 09:06, ija...@jamcorbroadcast.com wrote: > > 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell. Its a > tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. the send it > over the netorn to another machine. How can you get access to the logs Does > anyone have a better solution. All data is queryable from the database. You could also create a custom exporter loadable module (for example, https://github.com/WMFO/Rivendell-Spinitron-Update). > 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the log in a web Page > format Like running a web server. Some attempts at this are available online, but I am unsure of their completeness or available support. https://github.com/waynemerricks/rivendell-html https://github.com/WMFO/Rivendell-Metadata > 5. Backing Up Database and Music Library Does anyone have a easy way to do > this. I would like to Make backups Of both and mysql data Base. I prefer GUI > Solution Acquainting yourself with the MySQL dump (https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/mysqldump.html) and rsync (https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/rsync/rsyncd.conf.5.en.html) commands, coupled with backupninja (https://0xacab.org/riseuplabs/backupninja) or custom bash scripts, may suffice for backing up audio storage and the database. There are many possibilities. Since we use the ZFS filesystem, backing up storage is done with the zfs send / receive commands quite easily. https://github.com/RadioStudent/backup-rsync-zfs Note: we at Radio Študent are not current users of Rivendell (but monitor development due to planned deployment) and other, more current means to achieve your goals may exist. -- Luka Cvetko Presenter, Technical Operations and IT Radio Študent, Svetčeva ulica 9, SI-1000 Ljubljana luka.cve...@radiostudent.si | +386 31 489 089 signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Several questions Voice Track & Logs Backups
1.)I would like to know if anyone has a solution for voice tracking. I am thinking to have a couple people voice track for us There are several ways to do it but the easiest is to have the record the Tracks and send them Thru a Drop Box acount. We look in to having them log in to the computer Thru Like a log me in account but we don't feel Comfortable doing that. Do anyone have any solutions on this. 2.) We area also Looking at trying to get the logs out of rivendell. Its a tedious process. You have to convert ever log in a text file. the send it over the netorn to another machine. How can you get access to the logs Does anyone have a better solution. 3.) Does any on know if there is a way to display the log in a web Page format Like running a web server. 4.) Has anyone tried loading PHPMYADMIN On CENOS6. 5. Backing Up Database and Music Library Does anyone have a easy way to do this. I would like to Make backups Of both and mysql data Base. I prefer GUI Solution Thanks ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
