RE: [RollTideFan] DAMN INDIANA WIND!!

2005-08-13 Thread Bryan Benefield
It's that damn INDIANa name. Call Miles Brand!

--- kurt rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Did it tump over your trailer too?
 
 Nah.  I got it secured to some trees with a couple
 of come-alongs.
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Before and After..

2005-08-13 Thread Bryan Benefield
Serves you right fer buyin' it off'n a volunqueer...

--- Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Damn!  Don't they have needle and thread up there? 
 You got my sympathies.
 Joe
 
 In the End, we will remember not the words of our
 enemies, but the silence of our friends. 
 - Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968) 
   - Original Message - 
   From: kurt rasmussen 
   To: RTF@rolltidefan.net 
   Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:17 PM
   Subject: [RollTideFan] Before and After..
 
 
Like a MIGHTY COLOSSUS OF YORE, she flew proud
 and brave.  For nearly six Fortnights.  The winds
 outta the North blew and blew.  Relentless
 tormentors they were...
 
   Today, they broke her back.
 
   Ain't but one place directly north of Kokomo
 Indiana that would do such to a shrine of mine.
 
   In South Bend they are..
 
   Before.
 
 
   After.
 
 
 
   Damn domers.
 
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[RollTideFan] Will It Ever Stop????

2005-08-13 Thread JVWatts

From The Anniston Star


Animal-rights group moves to stop JSU from using
'Gamecocks' nickname

By Ben Cunningham
Star Staff Writer
08-13-2005

What do chickens and Chippewas have in common?

Both have groups of people that want them kept out of
college football stadiums and basketball arenas – more
specifically, off the players’ jerseys and the school
walls.

For the second time in four years, the animal-rights
group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has
asked the National Collegiate Athletic Association to
stop Jacksonville State University and the University
of South Carolina from using the nickname “Gamecocks”
because it supposedly promotes the sport of
cockfighting.

The request, in the form of a letter mailed Wednesday
to NCAA President Myles Brand, came hot on the heels
of the NCAA’s decision last week to ban college teams
from using “hostile or abusive” nicknames for their
sports teams in postseason play. That ban was aimed
squarely at schools whose teams use names based on
American Indians, such as Central Michigan
University’s Chippewas. The move has put many fans on
the warpath.

Now PETA has stepped into the ring.

PETA campaign manager Dan Shannon said the decision on
Indians spurred his organization to charge for the
chicken change now.

“The fact is that cockfighting is illegal in 48 states
and is hideously cruel,” Shannon said.

The sport, in which two specially bred roosters square
off in a fight to the death, is illegal in both
Alabama and South Carolina. Here, cockfighting or
operating a “cock pit” is a misdemeanor punishable by
a fine of $20-$50.

Aside from being illegal, the sport is cruel, Shannon
said, because it almost always ends with the death of
at least one of the animals.

The Gamecocks are having none of it. JSU president
Bill Meehan said Friday the school doesn’t support
cockfighting, but he has no plans to change the
school’s nickname and doesn’t want to get into a
debate with PETA over the matter.

“It’s a non-issue,” Meehan said. “I wouldn’t want to
see us change.”

E.C. “Baldy’ Wilson doesn’t want to see it change
either. He was a member of the Jacksonville State
Teacher’s College football squad in 1946, and a
veteran just back from the war in Europe.

That was the year players voted to change the name to
“Gamecocks” from “Eagle Owls” – a predatory bird found
in Scandinavia and northern Asia.

“We’d go places and … people would say, ‘What is an
eagle owl?’” said Wilson, now 82 and still a supporter
of the football program.

In picking a replacement, the players went with
something more familiar.

“Back in the old days everybody had a yard full of
chickens,” Wilson said. Nobody connected with the team
actually fought birds at cockfights, as he remembers
it, but the young men admired roosters.

“They’re pretty and they’re proud,” Wilson said. “They
have a lot of pride and they’ll fight to defend their
turf.”

Shannon says that PETA has no problem with teams
naming themselves after other animals, such as tigers
or bears. Those names honor the nobility and majesty
of the animals he said.

“Gamecocks is the only nickname that promotes
cruelty,” Shannon said. For JSU to call its teams the
“Gamecocks” is tantamount to calling them the
“Wifebeaters” or the “Looters,” or other illegal
activities, according to the PETA letter.

In 2001, PETA asked both JSU and USC directly to
change the names, and received “polite responses” from
both schools declining to do so.

Shannon said the organization still is waiting for a
response from the NCAA on its latest request.

In the meantime, JSU appears prepared to defend its
turf. After all, the school this summer installed new
artificial turf at its football stadium, emblazoned
with a picture of a fighting rooster at midfield and
the word “Gamecocks” in huge letters in each end zone.

Meehan called PETA a “good” organization” that has
chosen the “wrong focus” with the mascot issue.

He expects that when classes begin Aug. 31 and the
football team kicks off Sept. 1, most students on
campus will rally behind the Gamecocks, much as they
did in 2001.

“If they did anything they did help solidify our
identity then,” Meehan said.


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Re: [RollTideFan] For The First Time In My Life

2005-08-13 Thread Joe Goodson
Since my Trans Am only gets 10 MPG (as long as I can keep my foot out of it) 
and it only takes premium.I think that I will not be driving it more 
than once a week just to keep it loose.  If I get game tickets this year, I 
might drive it to Tuscaloosa if I have a few friends to help with the gas. 
It cost me $75 the last time I took it.


Will it ever end?

Joe

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to 
have a property in his rights.

James Madison
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From: JVWatts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: RT  Roll Tide Fan List RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:35 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] For The First Time In My Life


I saw regular gas @ 2.50 a gallongranted it was BP but the others won't 
be far behindI wonder if YUGO's can still be found


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Re: [RollTideFan] Before and After..

2005-08-13 Thread Joe Goodson

Maybe this will help.

http://www.gametimeusa.com/alcrtinc3x5o.html

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to 
have a property in his rights.

James Madison
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From: Bryan Benefield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List 
RTF@rolltidefan.net

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Before and After..



Serves you right fer buyin' it off'n a volunqueer...

--- Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Damn!  Don't they have needle and thread up there?
You got my sympathies.
Joe

In the End, we will remember not the words of our
enemies, but the silence of our friends.
- Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)
  - Original Message - 
  From: kurt rasmussen

  To: RTF@rolltidefan.net
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:17 PM
  Subject: [RollTideFan] Before and After..


   Like a MIGHTY COLOSSUS OF YORE, she flew proud
and brave.  For nearly six Fortnights.  The winds
outta the North blew and blew.  Relentless
tormentors they were...

  Today, they broke her back.

  Ain't but one place directly north of Kokomo
Indiana that would do such to a shrine of mine.

  In South Bend they are..

  Before.


  After.



  Damn domers.

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[RollTideFan] Bama Fan

2005-08-13 Thread 1tide1
A good little Auburn story.
An Auburn University family of football supporters head out one
Saturday to do their Christmas shopping. While in the sports shop the
son picks up an Alabama jersey and says to his older sister, I've
decided to become an Alabama fan and I would like this for Christmas.
His big sister is outraged by this and promptly whacks him round the
head and says, Go talk to mother.
Off goes the little lad with the Alabama jersey in hand and finds his
mother. Mom?
Yes son?
I've decided I'm going to be an Alabama fan and I would like this
jersey for Christmas.
The mother is outraged at this, promptly whacks him around the head and
says, Go talk to your father!
Off he goes with the Alabama Jersey in hand and finds his father. Dad?
Yes son?
I've decided I'm going to be an Alabama fan and I would like this
jersey for Christmas.
The father is outraged and promptly whacks his son around the head and
says, No son of mine is ever going to be seen in THAT!
About half an hour later they're all back in the car and heading towards
home. The father turns to his son and says Son, I hope you've learned
something today?
The son says, Yes, Dad, I have.
Good son, what is it?
 
The son replies, I've only been an Alabama fan for an hour and I already
hate you Auburn bastards.



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[RollTideFan] Fw: HOME REMEDIES

2005-08-13 Thread Joe Goodson




As a man is said to have a right to his 
property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. James 
Madison
- Original Message - 
From: Buddy  
Delayne Pitman 
To: anita givens ; Celeste 
Conner ; Danny 
Givens ; David Brady ; Earl Gray 
Pitman, III ; Eddie Dodd ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Jean 
Craddock ; Joe Goodson ; Karen 
Futral ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Nancy  Ed 
Miller ; Pamela 
Brown ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Robert Thompson ; Roy Harris 
Riley ; Roy 
Strickland ; Scott Riley ; willbro3 ; Woody 
Watters 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: HOME REMEDIES

 

AMAZINGLY SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES1. If you are choking on an ice 
cube, don't panic.Simply pour a cup of boiling water down your throat and 
presto. The blockage will be almost instantly removed.2. Clumsy? Avoid 
cutting yourself while slicingvegetables by getting someone else to hold 
them while you chop away.3. Avoid arguments with the Mrs. about lifting 
the toilet seat by simply using the sink.4. For high blood pressure 
sufferers: simply cutyourself and bleed for a few minutes, thus reducing the 
pressure in your veins. Remember to use a timer.5. A mouse trap, placed 
on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to 
sleep after you hit the snooze button.6. If you have a bad cough, take a 
large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough.7. Have a bad 
toothache? Smash your thumb with a hammer and you will forget about the 
toothache.Sometimes, we just need to remember what the rules of life 
really are:You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the 
WD-40.If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct 
tape.Remember:Everyone seems normal until you get to know 
them.Never pass up an opportunity to go to the bathroom.If you 
woke up breathing, congratulations! You get another chance.And finally, 
be really nice to your family and friends; you never know when you might need 
them to empty your 
bedpan.
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[RollTideFan] the insanity continues

2005-08-13 Thread Charles








Look especially
at the last few paragraphs about PETAs concerns.



Schools
consider appeals to NCAA

By Steve
Wieberg and Eddie Timanus, USA
TODAY

As Florida State moved Wednesday to protect its
Seminoles name and symbols, at least two other Division I schools
affected by new NCAA restrictions on the use of Native American imagery weighed
appeals.

Neither Utah, which derives its nickname from the local Ute
tribe, nor Central Michigan, which calls its
teams the Chippewas, has taken formal action. But officials foresee challenging
an NCAA ruling that their Indian references and images are offensive.



We're
still a little surprised at how this all came out and how the NCAA described
what we do (in using the Ute as a symbol), Utah athletics director Chris Hill said.
We know we have the support of the Ute Nation, and we anticipate that we
will appeal.



Said Central Michigan spokesman Steve Smith, All
indications are we will file an appeal.



Other Division
I schools  Alcorn State (Braves), Arkansas
State (Indians), Bradley (Braves), Illinois (Fighting
Illini) and Louisiana-Monroe (Indians)  have not decided on a course of
action. Nor has Division II North Dakota (the Fighting Sioux), which plays
Division I hockey and is scheduled to host an NCAA regional next March. The
NCAA will prohibit any school not complying with its mascot guidelines from
hosting any association-sponsored postseason events.



Meanwhile, Rep.
Tom Feeney,R-Fla., who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, said his office
will push the NCAA to reconsider and, if rebuked, he'll seek legislative
relief. That, the Orlando
lawmaker said, could be an amendment to antitrust laws to specifically
prohibit what the NCAA has done. ... They have the right to promulgate
reasonable rules, but they don't have the right to promulgate unreasonable
rules. Effectively, they're restraining in this case the right of Florida State
students and Florida State athletes and Florida State
supporters to participate in and support postseason play.



Feeney also
criticized the new NCAA guidelines as restrictions on free speech and an
infringement on colleges' autonomy.



FSU athletics
director Dave Hart Jr. was critical of what he called the stealth
nature of the NCAA process. FSU and other schools, he charged, were kept
in the dark. Though targeted schools were ordered by the NCAA to conduct and
share self-reviews of nicknames and mascots, Hart said school and Seminole
Tribe of Florida officials should have been invited to testify before the
executive committee.



NCAA President
Myles Brand said he called Hart 24 hours before the vote and told him
that this is the issue on the table; I don't know which way the vote's going to
go.



Why not the
Irish? The NCAA says it has never questioned Notre Dame's Fighting Irish
nickname or leprechaun mascot because it hasn't received a formal complaint. 



We have
not gotten information from any group that represents Irish or (anyone of)
Irish ancestry ... that they believe that image is hostile and/or
abusive, said Charlotte Westerhaus, NCAA vice president for diversity and
inclusion. On the other hand, we had a lot of input from Native American
tribes across the country that they believe the imagery at Florida State
and other schools is (offensive).



Feeney raised
the Irish question Wednesday. There's no end to this, he said.
I happen to be an American of Irish descent. Should I be outraged at the
notion that the Fighting Irish suggest a brawling, half-drunken Irishman? How
about the Holy Cross Crusaders? Should every American Muslim be outraged at the
thousands upon thousands of Muslims and atheists and non-Christians who
perished during the Crusades? ... I really believe the NCAA is imposing the
thought police on sports teams.



Six Division II
and III schools use Fighting Scots: Edinboro (Pa.),
Ohio Valley
(W.Va.), Wooster
(Ohio), Monmouth (Ill.),
Gordon (Mass.) and Maryville
(Tenn.). Two
use Scots: Macalester (Minn.) and Alma (Mich.). 



PETA weighs in:
The animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a
letter to Brand on Wednesday asking the NCAA to stop South
 Carolina and Jacksonville (Ala.) State from using
the nickname Gamecocks.



The letter, a
copy of which was given to USA TODAY by PETA, says Gamecocks are named
after the birds used in cockfighting, a hideous 'blood sport' that, like
spousal abuse, bank robbery and driving while intoxicated, is illegal in both
South Carolina and Alabama.



Said Feeney:
For once, I believe that PETA, at least on the level of logic, is
correct. If the NCAA has to protect offended Native Americans ... by God, PETA
ought to advocate for the protection of every organism in the animal
kingdom.



Contributing:
Andy Gardiner, wires



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[RollTideFan] Hey Charles!

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Laborde
I've lost the e-mail with the web host info. Can you resend it, please?

Thanks!



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RE: [RollTideFan] Hey Charles!

2005-08-13 Thread Charles
http://bluenorthhosting.com/ is the URL.  The guy in charge is Bill R.  He
is really a hands on kind of guy.  It's a small outfit so your plan will be
customized for what you need.  That's why there are no rates listed.  He
listens to what you need and tailors the rate to meet those needs.  And what
is relevant for your purposes is that he is extremely familiar with mailman
and the problems it causes on a server and knows how to set it up correctly
to keep them from happening.


Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
Consider the past and you shall know the future. -  Chinese Proverb
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Laborde
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:11 PM
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
Subject: [RollTideFan] Hey Charles!

I've lost the e-mail with the web host info. Can you resend it, please?

Thanks!



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Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Fan

2005-08-13 Thread Steven Johnson
Good one.  :-)

RTR
LC

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A good little Auburn story.
 An Auburn University family of football supporters
 head out one
 Saturday to do their Christmas shopping. While in
 the sports shop the
 son picks up an Alabama jersey and says to his older
 sister, I've
 decided to become an Alabama fan and I would like
 this for Christmas.
 His big sister is outraged by this and promptly
 whacks him round the
 head and says, Go talk to mother.
 Off goes the little lad with the Alabama jersey in
 hand and finds his
 mother. Mom?
 Yes son?
 I've decided I'm going to be an Alabama fan and I
 would like this
 jersey for Christmas.
 The mother is outraged at this, promptly whacks him
 around the head and
 says, Go talk to your father!
 Off he goes with the Alabama Jersey in hand and
 finds his father. Dad?
 Yes son?
 I've decided I'm going to be an Alabama fan and I
 would like this
 jersey for Christmas.
 The father is outraged and promptly whacks his son
 around the head and
 says, No son of mine is ever going to be seen in
 THAT!
 About half an hour later they're all back in the car
 and heading towards
 home. The father turns to his son and says Son, I
 hope you've learned
 something today?
 The son says, Yes, Dad, I have.
 Good son, what is it?
  
 The son replies, I've only been an Alabama fan for
 an hour and I already
 hate you Auburn bastards.
 
 
 
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[RollTideFan] Hey Jeff

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Laborde
You have mail.






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[RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Laborde
Due to increasing costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out to
me in no uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.

I've got to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more walls.

Have a good season  RTR!







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Re: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Rick McMahan
Leave it online for a day or so, Mike, and lets see how many people 
respond and say they care. Seriously.


Rick

Mike Laborde wrote:
Due to increasing costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out to 
me in no uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.


I've got to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more walls. 


Have a good season  RTR!





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RE: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Charles
That's a shame.


Charles Mims
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Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem.  You have a
perception problem.
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Subject: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

Due to increasing costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out
to 
me in no uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.

I've got to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more
walls. 

Have a good season  RTR!







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RE: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Devonna Snuggs


I care!!! I am sad!! -Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Behalf Of 
Rick McMahanSent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:35 PMTo: RollTideFan - 
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Goodbye Bama FansLeave it online for a day or so, Mike, and lets see 
how many people respond and say they care. 
Seriously.RickMike Laborde wrote: Due to increasing 
costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out to  me in no 
uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.  I've got 
to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more walls.  
 Have a good season  RTR!  
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Re: [RollTideFan] Coach Bryant

2005-08-12 Thread Dennis Evans

Joe Goodson wrote:

Wow.I was just sitting here pondering the wonder and beauty of his 
record at Bryant Denny Stadium..72 - 2 and no ties. 
 
Joe




It is an impressive stat but I think you have to keep in mind that in 
those days the Majority of Big games were played in Birmingham.  That 
being said, the Bryant Denny record is impressive and one any coach or 
school would love.


Dennis

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[RollTideFan] NCAA's Stupidty continues...

2005-08-12 Thread Charles








Im
searching for a news story on this. I heard it on my local morning news, but havent
found anything I can forward yet. But the story goes like this. U Georgia is
playing Boise State in the opener. One of the kids
from Boise has a father in Iraq. GA fans
found out about it and paid for the man to come home to see his kid play, but the
NCAA ruled that makes the GA fans Boise
boosters and the gift is disallowed. So the guy cant come home.



This is just
ridiculous. I heard an NCAA fan say on fox news yesterday that
if member schools dont agree with NCAA rulings they are free to pull
out. Well, maybe thats just what needs to be done.



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Re: [RollTideFan] NCAA's Stupidty continues...

2005-08-12 Thread kurt rasmussen
Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm searching for a news story on this.  I heard it on my local
 morning
 news, but haven't found anything I can forward yet.  

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/uga/0805/11gafans.html

Dogs fans show heart, but . . . 
 NCAA won't let them pay for dad's trip to game

 By CHIP TOWERS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
 Published on: 08/11/05
ATHENS — A group of Georgia football fans took up a collection to pay
for a Boise State player's father to fly from Baghdad to see his son
play against the Bulldogs in Athens.

But the NCAA rule book got in the way.

Dan Miller, father of Broncos sophomore guard Tad Miller, is a retired
police lieutenant who is training Iraqi police officers.

When Sam Hendrix of Signal Mountain, Tenn. — suthndawg to his fellow
Georgia fans on the Dawgvent, an Internet message board — read a story
in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution about the Millers, he started an
online movement to raise the $2,700 it will cost Dad to make it to
Sanford Stadium to see his son play in the home opener Sept. 3.

Within moments of suthndawg's post, there were 25 to 50 people who
offered to pledge money, said Ryan Crowe, a 25-year-old legal
assistant from Atlanta who offered to collect and distribute the funds.
It just took off from there.

But when Crowe checked with the two schools, he was told the UGA fans'
generosity would be a violation of NCAA bylaws regarding extra benefits
and expenses for student athletes and their families.

Ironically, by providing this money, these [Georgia] fans would in
effect become Boise State boosters, said Amy Chisholm, UGA's assistant
athletics director for compliance. The NCAA defines a booster as a
representative of an institution's athletics interests.

NCAA spokeswoman Gail Dent did not have an immediate response to
questions about the situation Wednesday.

Makes no sense to me, said Hendrix, a 56-year-old marketing
consultant. It just hits me that twice in a week, these people have
lost touch with reality.

The NCAA caused a furor when it ruled last week that member schools'
Native American mascots would no longer be allowed at championship
events.

Word of the Georgia fans' good intentions — and their being thwarted —
spread quickly via the Internet.

It was such a nice and giving gesture, I almost felt embarrassed,
said Kathy Miller, Tad's mother, who lives in Boise, Idaho. We
appreciate it so much. But we want people to know that the company Dan
contracts for pays for his RR every six months, and this will be his
first time home since January. So his travel is taken care of.

Perhaps they can collect money to send some underprivileged kids to
the game or something, she added.

Kathy Miller said the family received other overtures from Georgia
fans. One offered to host a party for the family when it arrives in
Athens. Miller said she is running everything by Boise State's
compliance office.

Said Crowe: Us Georgia fans love our football but, as a collective
group, we're pretty hospitable people.







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[RollTideFan] Are you a Democrat, Republican or Southern Republican

2005-08-12 Thread Mike Laborde
Forwarded from another list:


 Are you a Democrat, Republican or Southern Republican

 Here is a little test that will help you decide.


 Question: How do you tell the difference between Democrats,
 Republicans And Southern Republicans?

 The answer can be found by posing the following question:


 You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small

 children. Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes

 around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises

 Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you. You are carrying a
 Glock

 cal .40, and you are an expert shot?

 You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.


 What do you do?

 ~~~

 Democrat's Answer:

 Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!

 Does the man look poor! Or oppressed?

 Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?

 Could we run away?

 What does my wife think?

 What about the kids?

 Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out
 of  his hand?

 What does the law say about this situation?

 Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it?

 Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message
 does this send to society and to my children?

 Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?

 Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to
 wound me?

 If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away
 while he was stabbing me?

 Should I call 9-1-1?

 Why is this street so deserted?

 We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this
 happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.

 This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends
 for few days and try to come to a consensus.

 ~

 Republican's Answer:

 BANG!

 ~

 Southern Republican's Answer:

 BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

 BANG! click.(sounds of reloading).

 BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

 BANG! click

 Daughter: Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver
 Tips or Hollow Points?









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RE: [RollTideFan] NCAA's Stupidty continues...

2005-08-12 Thread Charles

It's absolutely ludicrous.  It seems that any last vestiges of common sense
have been eradicated from the NCAA.  I think it's time for some major
schools to part company with them.  The $$$ hit would be hard, but
temporary.

Charles Mims
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  

Dogs fans show heart, but . . . 
 NCAA won't let them pay for dad's trip to game

 By CHIP TOWERS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
 Published on: 08/11/05
ATHENS - A group of Georgia football fans took up a collection to pay
for a Boise State player's father to fly from Baghdad to see his son
play against the Bulldogs in Athens.

But the NCAA rule book got in the way.
 



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Re: [RollTideFan] NCAA's Stupidty continues...

2005-08-12 Thread JVWatts

Dogs fans show heart, but . . .


NCAA won't let them pay for dad's trip to game
   



 


By CHIP TOWERS
   


The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
 


Published on: 08/11/05
   


ATHENS — A group of Georgia football fans took up a collection to pay
for a Boise State player's father to fly from Baghdad to see his son
play against the Bulldogs in Athens.

But the NCAA rule book got in the way.

Dan Miller, father of Broncos sophomore guard Tad Miller, is a retired
police lieutenant who is training Iraqi police officers.

When Sam Hendrix of Signal Mountain, Tenn. — suthndawg to his fellow
Georgia fans on the Dawgvent, an Internet message board — read a story
in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution about the Millers, he started an
online movement to raise the $2,700 it will cost Dad to make it to
Sanford Stadium to see his son play in the home opener Sept. 3.

Within moments of suthndawg's post, there were 25 to 50 people who
offered to pledge money, said Ryan Crowe, a 25-year-old legal
assistant from Atlanta who offered to collect and distribute the funds.
It just took off from there.

But when Crowe checked with the two schools, he was told the UGA fans'
generosity would be a violation of NCAA bylaws regarding extra benefits
and expenses for student athletes and their families.

Ironically, by providing this money, these [Georgia] fans would in
effect become Boise State boosters, said Amy Chisholm, UGA's assistant
athletics director for compliance. The NCAA defines a booster as a
representative of an institution's athletics interests.
 

Yet somebody in Mobile with all kinds of ties to UcheaT can send cash to 
Tee Martin and Roy Adams can blab all over the place about money he's 
provided

to kids from other schools and they're not considered boosters


NCAA spokeswoman Gail Dent did not have an immediate response to
questions about the situation Wednesday.

 


Well of course not


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Re: [RollTideFan] Coach Bryant

2005-08-12 Thread JVWatts




It is an impressive stat but I think you have to keep in mind that in 
those days the Majority of Big games were played in Birmingham.  That 
being said, the Bryant Denny record is impressive and one any coach or 
school would love.


Dennis

Rick McThis was the point I was trying to makeThanks 
DennisJVWatts


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[RollTideFan] Tired Of Being On Welfare

2005-08-12 Thread JVWatts
A guy walks into the local welfare office, marches straight up to the 
counter and says, Hi...  You know, I just HATE drawing welfare. I'd 
really rather have a job.




The social worker behind the counter says, Your timing is excellent. We 
just got a job opening from a very wealthy old man who wants a 
chauffeur/bodyguard for his nymphomaniac daughter. You'll have to drive 
around in his Mercedes, but he'll supply all of your clothes.  Because 
of the long hours, meals will be provided. You'll be expected to escort 
her on her overseas holiday trips.  You will have to satisfy her sexual 
urges. You'll have a two-bedroom apartment above the garage. The 
starting salary is $200,000 a year.




The guy says, You're bullshittin' me!



The social worker says, Yeah, well, you  started  it.












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[RollTideFan] Tickets

2005-08-12 Thread Robert Springfield

Does anyone on this list, know when the season tickets are to be UPS out?

Thanks for all the information

Robert

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Re: [RollTideFan] Tickets

2005-08-12 Thread dsnuggs
supposed to be today Robert!!!




 Does anyone on this list, know when the season tickets are to be UPS
 out?
 
 Thanks for all the information
 
 Robert
 
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[RollTideFan] For The First Time In My Life

2005-08-12 Thread JVWatts
I saw regular gas @ 2.50 a gallongranted it was BP but the others 
won't be far behindI wonder if YUGO's can still be found


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Re: [RollTideFan] Tickets

2005-08-12 Thread Joe Goodson
I'll take any tickets for games that anyone can't attend.  Just let me know 
where to send the cash.


:-)
Joe

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to 
have a property in his rights.

James Madison
- Original Message - 
From: dsnuggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Tickets



supposed to be today Robert!!!





Does anyone on this list, know when the season tickets are to be UPS
out?

Thanks for all the information

Robert

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Re: [RollTideFan] Tickets

2005-08-12 Thread atticusjd
Alabama football ticket shipments delayed

 

For Alabama football fans, the anxious wait for their season 
football tickets to arrive has just become a few days longer.  Word came late 
Thursday that all University of Alabama season tickets, originally to be 
shipped on Friday, August 12, would be delayed a few days.

 

“Late Thursday afternoon, we were informed by our ticket printing 
company in Arkansas that our season ticket shipments were being delayed,” said 
Rhoda Vaughn, athletic ticket manager.  “For weeks, we’ve been telling our 
customers that August 12th would be the ship date, and until Thursday 
afternoon, we had no reason to doubt that.  Needless to say, we were very 
disappointed with the news.”

 

Vaughn added that similar calls from the Arkansas ticket printing 
company were made to several ticket offices across the country, including at 
least five schools from the Southeastern Conference.  “It’s certainly no 
consolation, but several schools were given the same news regarding their 
season tickets,” Vaughn said.  “Obviously, we’ll be following up with our 
ticket printing company to identify and address these issues.”

 

United Parcel Service (UPS), which is contracted by the Athletic 
Ticket Office to ship the season tickets, is also contracted to ship road game 
tickets.  “Unlike our season tickets, which are shipped from our ticket 
printing company in Arkansas, our road game tickets are shipped from our 
offices here on campus, and they’re all ready to go,” Vaughn said.  
“However, so that the receipt of season tickets and road game tickets can be 
simultaneous, we will hold the road game ticket shipments for a few days until 
we’re informed of a new ship date of the season tickets.  Once we get a firm 
ship date, we’ll then release the road game ticket shipment so they can enter 
the UPS system at the same time and hopefully be delivered to our customers at 
the same time.”

 

Likewise, UPS is contracted to ship most of the TIDE PRIDE 
amenities packages, while some are mailed through the United States Postal 
Service.  “The amenities packages that are scheduled to be shipped by UPS are 
ready to go,” said Tommy Ford, director of TIDE PRIDE, “but we’re holding 
them until we hear word on the season ticket shipment.  It has always been our 
preference, as well as UPS’s, for the amenities and the tickets to go out and 
be delivered at the same time.  We’ll also delay any amenities packages that 
are scheduled to be mailed through the Post Office.”

 

Anyone who ordered Alabama single game tickets will be receiving 
them earlier via the United States Postal Service.  “Our single game tickets 
had already been taken to the Post Office and were already in the mail 
system,” Vaughn said.  “The mailing of those could not be delayed, so 
they’ll be delivered earlier than the other items.”

 

Vaughn said that the Ticket Office hopes to hear by Monday when the season 
tickets will be shipped.  “Despite the delay, season tickets will arrive to 
our customers in plenty of time for our home opener on September 3rd.” 

When your tickets are shipped, you will receive an email shipping notification. 
This notification will include your tracking number link which will allow you 
to easily track your package.



-Original Message-
From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Aug 12, 2005 9:42 PM
To: 
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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Tickets

I'll take any tickets for games that anyone can't attend.  Just let me know 
where to send the cash.

:-)
Joe

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to 
have a property in his rights.
James Madison
- Original Message - 
From: dsnuggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Tickets


 supposed to be today Robert!!!




 Does anyone on this list, know when the season tickets are to be UPS
 out?

 Thanks for all the information

 Robert

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[RollTideFan] DAMN INDIANA WIND!!

2005-08-11 Thread kurt rasmussen
ripped my BAMA flag. 

kurt




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RE: [RollTideFan] DAMN INDIANA WIND!!

2005-08-11 Thread Joel Perry
Did it tump over your trailer too?

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Subject:[RollTideFan] DAMN INDIANA WIND!!

ripped my BAMA flag.

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RE: [RollTideFan] DAMN INDIANA WIND!!

2005-08-11 Thread kurt rasmussen
Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did it tump over your trailer too?

Nah.  I got it secured to some trees with a couple of come-alongs.

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[RollTideFan] Fwd: CNN Breaking News

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Laborde
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Cc:
Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:25:39 -0400
Subject: CNN Breaking News


 -- British Airways cancels all flights in and out of London's
 Heathrow Airport until 1 p.m. ET (1700 GMT) Friday.




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RE: [RollTideFan] Fwd: CNN Breaking News

2005-08-11 Thread Lizard Fish

Because of a worker's strike.  The baggers and ticket agents are upset because 
of the way British Airways is handling the food
caterer for the airlines.

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 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:59 PM
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 Cc:
 Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:25:39 -0400
 Subject: CNN Breaking News
 
 
  -- British Airways cancels all flights in and out of 
 London's Heathrow 
  Airport until 1 p.m. ET (1700 GMT) Friday.
 
 
 
 
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[RollTideFan] Practice Schedule?

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Laborde
Anybody have a practice schedule or know where to find one without bugging UA?





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Re: [RollTideFan] Practice Schedule?

2005-08-11 Thread kurt rasmussen
Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anybody have a practice schedule or know where to find one without
 bugging UA?

http://www.ladyinred.net/news

Tentative Practice Schedule

• Thursday, August 11th - 2:30 p.m.: Practice
• Friday, August 12th - 2:30 p.m.: Practice
• Saturday, August 13th - 2:30 p.m.: Practice
• Sunday, August 14th - 8:30 a.m. and 3:30 p.m.: Practice
• Monday, August 15 - 2 p.m.: Practice (Scrimmage)
• Tuesday, August 16 - 8:30 a.m. or 7:30 p.m.: Practice
• Wednesday, August 17 - 2:15 p.m.: Practice
• Thursday, August 18 - 8:30 a.m. and 3:30 p.m.: Practice
• Saturday, August 20 - 8:30 a.m. and 3:30 p.m.: Practice and Scrimmage
 at 3:30
• Sunday, August 21 - 7 p.m.: Practice
• Monday, August 22 - 8:30 a.m. and 7:30 p.m.: Practice
• Tuesday, August 23: Practice (Scrimmage)

kurt


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RE: [RollTideFan] Fwd: CNN Breaking News

2005-08-11 Thread Charles
Fire the lot of them...


Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
Laugh and the world laughs with you; snore and you sleep alone.   Anthony
Burgess 
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Fwd: CNN Breaking News


Because of a worker's strike.  The baggers and ticket agents are upset
because of the way British Airways is handling the food
caterer for the airlines.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Practice Schedule?

2005-08-11 Thread Jeff Todd
www.tiderinsider.com

HTH

Slef E.

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Anybody have a practice schedule or know where to find 
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[RollTideFan] Before and After..

2005-08-11 Thread kurt rasmussen
Like a MIGHTY COLOSSUS OF YORE, she flew proud and brave. For nearly six Fortnights. The winds outta the North blew and blew. Relentlesstormentors they were...Today, they broke her back.Ain't but one place directly north of Kokomo Indiana that would do such to a shrine of mine.In South Bend they are..Before.

After.



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RE: [RollTideFan] Fwd: CNN Breaking News

2005-08-11 Thread kurt rasmussen
Damn Union labor..  

Gonna break Amerika's back they are! 

kurt

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 Because of a worker's strike.  The baggers and ticket agents are
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Re: [RollTideFan] Fwd: CNN Breaking News

2005-08-11 Thread Rick McMahan


($1) to President Ronald Reagan...

Rick

Charles wrote:

Fire the lot of them...


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Because of a worker's strike.  The baggers and ticket agents are upset
because of the way British Airways is handling the food
caterer for the airlines.



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-- British Airways cancels all flights in and out of 


London's Heathrow 


Airport until 1 p.m. ET (1700 GMT) Friday.




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Re: [RollTideFan] Practice Schedule?

2005-08-11 Thread Rick McMahan


Kristy has one of the best, most informative, Bama sites on the WWW. If 
you're on the list, Kristy, here's a BIG SHOUT OUT to you!


ROLL TIDE ROLL!
Rick


kurt rasmussen wrote:

Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Anybody have a practice schedule or know where to find one without
bugging UA?



http://www.ladyinred.net/news

Tentative Practice Schedule

• Thursday, August 11th - 2:30 p.m.: Practice
• Friday, August 12th - 2:30 p.m.: Practice
• Saturday, August 13th - 2:30 p.m.: Practice
• Sunday, August 14th - 8:30 a.m. and 3:30 p.m.: Practice
• Monday, August 15 - 2 p.m.: Practice (Scrimmage)
• Tuesday, August 16 - 8:30 a.m. or 7:30 p.m.: Practice
• Wednesday, August 17 - 2:15 p.m.: Practice
• Thursday, August 18 - 8:30 a.m. and 3:30 p.m.: Practice
• Saturday, August 20 - 8:30 a.m. and 3:30 p.m.: Practice and Scrimmage
 at 3:30
• Sunday, August 21 - 7 p.m.: Practice
• Monday, August 22 - 8:30 a.m. and 7:30 p.m.: Practice
• Tuesday, August 23: Practice (Scrimmage)

kurt




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Re: [RollTideFan] Practice Schedule?

2005-08-11 Thread kurt rasmussen

Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Kristy has one of the best, most informative, Bama sites on the WWW.
 If 
 you're on the list, Kristy, here's a BIG SHOUT OUT to you!

PREECH!! 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Before and After..

2005-08-11 Thread Joe Goodson



Damn! Don't they have needle and thread up 
there? You got my sympathies.
Joe
"In the End, we will remember not the words of 
our enemies, but the silence of our friends." - Martin Luther King Jr. 
(1929-1968) 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  kurt rasmussen 
  
  To: RTF@rolltidefan.net 
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:17 
  PM
  Subject: [RollTideFan] Before and 
  After..
  
  Like a MIGHTY COLOSSUS OF YORE, she flew proud and brave. 
  For nearly six Fortnights. The winds outta the North blew and 
  blew. Relentlesstormentors they were...Today, they broke 
  her back.Ain't but one place directly north of Kokomo Indiana that 
  would do such to a shrine of mine.In South Bend they 
  are..Before.
  
  After.
  
  
  
  Damn domers.kurt --- Won't back down! 
  
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[RollTideFan] Coach Bryant

2005-08-11 Thread Joe Goodson



Wow.I was just sitting here pondering the 
wonder and beauty of his record at Bryant Denny Stadium..72 - 2 and no 
ties. 

Joe
"In the End, we will remember not the words of 
our enemies, but the silence of our friends." - Martin Luther King Jr. 
(1929-1968) 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Coach Bryant

2005-08-11 Thread JVWatts
What you have to consider is the teams he coached against in BDS as 
compared to the one's he coached against in B'ham.JVWatts


Joe Goodson wrote:

Wow.I was just sitting here pondering the wonder and beauty of his 
record at Bryant Denny Stadium..72 - 2 and no ties. 
 
Joe


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silence of our friends.

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[RollTideFan] Yahoo! News Story - Envoys: Iran Faces Sept. Deadline on Nukes - Yahoo! News

2005-08-11 Thread JVWatts

 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has sent you a news article.
(Email address has not been verified.)

Personal message:

Bush needs to grow some balls and take a line from JFK and just tell 
Iran and that little gook in North Korea, Either shut the nuclear 
programs down or we'll shut them down for you.




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Re: [RollTideFan] Coach Bryant

2005-08-11 Thread Rick McMahan
Hell Jamie have you already forgotten the sucky recent loses to teams 
like Central Florida and Northern Illinois at BDS. It doesn't matter who 
the teams were, 72-2 is 72-2! Not a flame, JMHO.


Rick

JVWatts wrote:
What you have to consider is the teams he coached against in BDS as 
compared to the one's he coached against in B'ham.JVWatts


Joe Goodson wrote:

Wow.I was just sitting here pondering the wonder and beauty of his 
record at Bryant Denny Stadium..72 - 2 and no ties.  




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Re: [RollTideFan] Coach Bryant

2005-08-11 Thread Rick McMahan

His Legion Field record is 68-15-5.

Rick

Rick McMahan wrote:
Hell Jamie have you already forgotten the sucky recent loses to teams 
like Central Florida and Northern Illinois at BDS. It doesn't matter who 
the teams were, 72-2 is 72-2! Not a flame, JMHO.


Rick

JVWatts wrote:

What you have to consider is the teams he coached against in BDS as 
compared to the one's he coached against in B'ham.JVWatts


Joe Goodson wrote:

Wow.I was just sitting here pondering the wonder and beauty of 
his record at Bryant Denny Stadium..72 - 2 and no ties.  





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RE: [RollTideFan] Bush criticizes NCAA decision that affects FSU

2005-08-10 Thread Devonna Snuggs
I think the majority of the country realizes what a stupid ass decision this
is EXCEPT the dumb f*cks at the ncaa.


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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2130079

Bush criticizes NCAA decision that affects FSU
Associated Press

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Gov. Jeb Bush criticized NCAA officials Tuesday for
their decision to penalize Florida State University for using an
American Indian nickname and symbols.

The governor said the Seminole Tribe of Florida supports the school's
use of its name and NCAA officials had insulted the university and
Seminole Indians by calling the nickname hostile and abusive.

I think they insult those people by telling them, 'No, no, you're not
smart enough to understand this. You should be feeling really horrible
about this.' It's ridiculous, Bush said.




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RE: [RollTideFan] Poor-formance review

2005-08-10 Thread Devonna Snuggs
Okay so the OC and DC get a raise and extension but CMS only gets an
extension.makes a lot of sense!  Rader should be shown the door IMO

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http://tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050809/NEWS/50809002/1011

BREAKING NEWS:  Rader, Kines get raises, contract extensions

By Adam Jones
Staff Writer
August 09, 2005
TUSCALOOSA | Contracts for University of Alabama assistant football
coaches Dave Rader and Joe Kines were extended two years and each were
given a raise in a short trustee committee meeting Tuesday.

Both Rader, offensive coordinator, and Kines, defensive coordinator,
contracts were extended to June 30, 2007. Rader’s annual salary was
increased from $212,000 to $217,000, while Kines’ salary went from
$212,000 to $240,000.  [...]

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[RollTideFan] NCAA and Injuns

2005-08-10 Thread Charles












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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-10 Thread Bryan Benefield
We can warm up on the French. They're slightly more
realistic than a heavy bag.

--- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There ya go, that's the true Irish spirit. We'll
 need to invite a few of 
 our Scottish brethren and have a brawl, just leave
 the Brits and the 
 French out of it.
 
 Rick
 
 Bryan Benefield wrote:
  Let's drink first like true Irishters.
  
  --- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 I'm game. With sparing gear or without? Makes no
 difference to me.
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 Bryan Benefield wrote:
 
 Wanna fight about it?
 
 --- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Excellent point. As am Irishman, that mascot
 name
 
 is
 
 definitely 
 offensive to me. :)
 
 RTR!
 Rick
 
 
 
 Rusty wrote:
 
 
 I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but if
 
 indian mascots are offensive
 
 
 to Native Americans and cannot be tolerated,
 when
 
 does Notre Dumb have to
 
 
 stop being the fighting irish?  Talk about a
 
 stereotype...surely they meet
 
 
 the hostile and abusive standard set by the
 
 ncaa.
 
 
 
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[RollTideFan] FW: I Love My Job!!

2005-08-10 Thread JVWatts


-Original Message-
*From:* Connie Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2005 10:42 PM
*To:* Nance, Bobby
*Cc:* Bray, Gail; Day, Glenda; Bryan, Karl; Watts, Kerry; Mom; Todd; 
Motley, Cindy; Daddy; Dan; Dwight; Eddie

*Subject:* I Love My Job!!

I love My Job!

This is even funnier when you realize it's real! The next time you have 
a bad day at work... think of this guy.


Rob is a commercial saturation diver for Global Divers in Louisiana. He 
performs underwater repairs on offshore drilling rigs.
Below is an e-mail he sent to his sister. She then sent it to radio 
station 103.2 FM in Ft. Wayne, Indiana, which was sponsoring a worst job 
experience contest. Needless to say, this story won.


Hi Sue:

Just another note from your bottom-dwelling brother. Last week I had a 
bad day at the office. I know you've been feeling down lately at work, 
so I thought I would share my dilemma with you to make you realize it's 
not so bad after all. Before I can tell you what happened to me, I first 
must bore you with a few technicalities of my job.
As you know, my office lies at the bottom of the sea. I wear a suit to 
the office. It's a wet suit. This time of year the water is quite cool. 
So what we do to keep warm is this: We have a diesel powered industrial 
water heater. This $20,000 piece of equipment sucks the water out of the 
sea. It heats it to a delightful temperature. It then pumps it down to 
the diver through a garden hose, which is taped to the air hose. Now 
this sounds like a darn good plan, and I've used it several times with 
no complaints. What I do, when I get to the bottom and start working, is 
take the hose and stuff it down the back of my wet suit. This floods my 
whole suit with warm water. It's like working in a Jacuzzi.
Everything was going well until all of a sudden, my butt started to 
itch. So, of course, I scratched it. This only made things worse.
Within a few seconds my butt started to burn. I pulled the hose out from 
my back, but the image was done. In agony I realized what had happened. 
The hot water machine had sucked up a jellyfish and pumped it into my suit.
Now, since I don't have any hair on my back, the jellyfish couldn't 
stick to it. However, the crack of my butt was not as fortunate. When I 
scratched what I thought was an itch, I was actually grinding the 
jellyfish into the crack of my butt.
I informed the dive supervisor of my dilemma over the communicator. His 
instructions were unclear due to the fact that he, along with five other 
divers, were all laughing hysterically.
Needless to say I aborted the dive. I was instructed to make three 
agonizing in-water decompression stops totaling thirty-five minutes 
before I could reach the surface to begin my chamber dry decompression.
When I arrived at the surface, I was wearing nothing but my brass 
helmet. As I climbed out of the water, the medic, with tears of laughter 
running down his face, handed me a tube of cream and told me to rub it 
on my butt as soon as I got in the chamber. The cream put the fire out, 
but I couldn't poop for two days because my butt was swollen shut.
So, next time you're having a bad day at work, think about how much 
worse it would be if you had a jellyfish shoved up your butt. Now repeat 
to yourself, I love my job, I love my job, I love my job



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RE: [RollTideFan] Bush criticizes NCAA decision that affects FSU

2005-08-10 Thread Lizard Fish
 
 I think the majority of the country realizes what a stupid 
 ass decision this is EXCEPT the dumb f*cks at the ncaa.
 
The CNN QuickVote poll today is about the NCAA decision.

Should college teams be barred from using American Indian nicknames and 
symbols?

Yes   16% 22,001 votes
No84%115,165 votes


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Re: [RollTideFan] Poor-formance review

2005-08-10 Thread Joe Goodson

IAWTP!
Joe

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence 
of our friends.

- Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:22 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Poor-formance review

 Rader should be shown the door IMO


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[RollTideFan] The official Rolltidefan search engine

2005-08-09 Thread kurt rasmussen
http://www.logogle.com/ggl.php?hl=jalo=Rolltidefan

kurt




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[RollTideFan] Soo..

2005-08-09 Thread kurt rasmussen
The boys went to register for skrewell in lovely downtown Greentown,
IN. yesterday afternoon.  Wearing Bama football jerseys as is the norm.
 They walk into the counselors' office and low and behold the guy has a
huge framed and matted picture of Coach Bryant hanging on the wall.

Woof.

Gawds I love Bama football! 

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[RollTideFan] Wrong fight?

2005-08-09 Thread Charles








My Note:
I dont agree with this editorial, not even a small bit. But it is
interesting reading.



Wrong fight

Our
position: In trying to protect its fighting Indian mascot, FSU is off base.



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Florida State University is
fighting the wrong fight in trying to keep its Seminole mascot that many
American Indians find offensive. Ideally, the institution and its fans will
recognize that before embarking on an expensive and embarrassing court battle.

FSU's fans consider Chief Osceola leading the Seminoles onto the
football field and sticking a flaming spear into the turf a treasured
tradition.

But American Indians have complained for years about the stereotypes portrayed
at FSU and on other college campuses. Dozens of schools have listened to the
concerns and changed their mascots out of respect to those who complained,
while FSU and 17 other schools have not.

The NCAA Executive Committee last week responded by banning schools that
display hostile or abusive mascots from playing in championship
tournaments, affecting all sports but football.

FSU President T.K. Wetherell not surprisingly took issue with this, arguing
that the Seminoles mascot is a tribute to the fighting spirit of the Florida
Seminole. But Mr. Wetherell can't escape the fact that, intended or not, the
images of Osceola in war paint and thousands of fans doing the Seminole
Chop portray American Indians as savages.

In his anger, Mr. Wetherell vowed to sue the NCAA. That would be a mistake,
sending the message that FSU is willing to fight to the end for the right to
offend people. It is a stand no respected institution of higher learning should
take.

An even bigger mistake would be to portray such a lawsuit as a battle against
political correctness. The step taken by the NCAA is not an attempt to kowtow
to interest groups. This is a recognition by the organization that these images
-- historically accurate or not -- offend many of those whose cultures are
being portrayed.

Presumably Mr. Wetherell would not support calling FSU's teams the Pickaninnies
and starting each game with students in blackface tap-dancing out to the
50-yard-line for a spirited rendition of Camp Town Races.

Times change. Just as black men resent being called boy and adult
women wince at being referred to as girls, American Indians object
to terms like the Braves, Savages and Redmen. Why? Because demeaning terms
justify and encourage subtle discrimination against individuals in the group.
It perpetuates prejudice and keeps people in those groups on society's lower
rung.

FSU's defense that the Seminole Tribe of Florida has voted to endorse the use
of the symbols by FSU really serves only to bolster the NCAA's argument. The
leaders of the larger Seminole Tribe of Oklahoma -- where the United States
relocated Seminoles they could find after fighting three wars -- cheered the
NCAA decision.

That only shows that FSU and others can't pick which Seminoles they want to
listen to. FSU should listen to the concerns of American Indians and remove the
offensive images.





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Re: [RollTideFan] Wrong fight?

2005-08-09 Thread rspoon17
Charles,

Where is this from?  

Rusty

P.S. - You might be interested in 
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/12333609.htm
which brings up the case I mentioned early in this dicussion - the Fighting 
Irish.  And don't even get me started on the Wake Forest Demon Deacons...
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Wrong fight?

2005-08-09 Thread PIRATESPT
it has nothing to do...with being offensive...its just a straight out power 
struggle.  The tail trying to wag the dogUnder paid, under age editorial 
writers dont impress me.  Basically, I could care less if FSU changes their 
mascot or not...but I want it to be their choice.  Oh...were the Ole Miss 
Rebels 
on the list...?If it is...it is the only one in the SEC..however...to be 
fair...the Commodores...hey...its gotta change...the stories I could 
tellThe fact is he bought the failed university of nashville...put in 
some money 
(stolen money) and named it for himself...but...let the old dead fart be 
honored!!Same thang about Osceola and his murderous band...Do it like the 
Mississippi flag...have an election!

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Re: [RollTideFan] Wrong fight?

2005-08-09 Thread kurt rasmussen
 for the leprechaun to sleep with the
fishes?

We have come to a seminal moment in the history of America's collegiate
athletics, and I do not mean the team names at Florida State.

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[RollTideFan] Poor-formance review

2005-08-09 Thread kurt rasmussen
http://tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050809/NEWS/50809002/1011

BREAKING NEWS:  Rader, Kines get raises, contract extensions

By Adam Jones
Staff Writer
August 09, 2005
TUSCALOOSA | Contracts for University of Alabama assistant football
coaches Dave Rader and Joe Kines were extended two years and each were
given a raise in a short trustee committee meeting Tuesday.

Both Rader, offensive coordinator, and Kines, defensive coordinator,
contracts were extended to June 30, 2007. Rader’s annual salary was
increased from $212,000 to $217,000, while Kines’ salary went from
$212,000 to $240,000.  [...]

kurt




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[RollTideFan] Bush criticizes NCAA decision that affects FSU

2005-08-09 Thread Rick McMahan

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2130079

Bush criticizes NCAA decision that affects FSU
Associated Press

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Gov. Jeb Bush criticized NCAA officials Tuesday for 
their decision to penalize Florida State University for using an 
American Indian nickname and symbols.


The governor said the Seminole Tribe of Florida supports the school's 
use of its name and NCAA officials had insulted the university and 
Seminole Indians by calling the nickname hostile and abusive.


I think they insult those people by telling them, 'No, no, you're not 
smart enough to understand this. You should be feeling really horrible 
about this.' It's ridiculous, Bush said.


An NCAA official previously said other Seminole tribes were opposed to 
the use of the name. On Tuesday, NCAA spokesman Bob Williams said 
officials believe their decision was made on sound legal ground.


We recognize this is an emotional issue in Florida, and in other parts 
of the country there are people who feel just as strongly being 
opposed, Williams said.


The university has until Feb. 1 to make a formal appeal to the NCAA 
executive committee.


Eighteen schools have an American Indian logo or mascot that will be 
prohibited by the NCAA during postseason events, starting in February.


The nicknames will not be allowed on team uniforms and mascots will not 
be allowed to perform at games, the NCAA announced Friday. Cheerleaders 
and band members also will be barred from using American Indian 
nicknames or logos beginning in 2008.


Attorney Barry Richard has agreed to represent the school in its case 
against the NCAA, Florida State President T.K. Wetherell said. Richard 
successfully led the legal challenge on behalf of President Bush during 
the 2000 election recount in Florida.


If you have the Seminole Tribe and Gov. Bush on your side, how can you 
go wrong? said Florida State Vice President Lee Hinkle.


Bush said the NCAA must have better things to do than sit around 
worrying about the nicknames adopted by its member institutions.


How politically correct can we get? Bush asked. The folks that make 
these decisions need to get out more often.


--

Rick




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[RollTideFan] Tuesday's Practice ...

2005-08-09 Thread Rick McMahan




photos...click the link and enjoy. 

http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=TLDate=Category=TSPHOTOArtNo=004Ref=PHProfile="">







Roll Tide Roll!
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RE: [RollTideFan] Billy Wayne?

2005-08-08 Thread White, Billy Wayne \(GE Consumer Industrial\)



Yep, still 
here. Right after I joined we had a death in the family and I haven't been 
around much since.But I've about got that all squared away and ready 
forBamafootball.
Even though I 
haven't been active in posting,I have enjoyed the Bama email, or at least 
those that make it through the profanity filter! I have a feeling I'll 
miss several emails and maybe all from some posters!
Roll 
Tide! 
Uncle 
Wayne 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Rick 
  McMahanSent: Monday, August 01, 2005 5:49 PMTo: 
  RTFSubject: [RollTideFan] Billy Wayne?Whatever happened to our newbie? He said hi, introduced 
  himslef, then promptly disappeared. Our wierdnesses must of freaked him 
  out. :-) Uncle Wayne, 
  you still out there?Roll Tide!!Rick 
Mc.
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RE: [RollTideFan] Billy Wayne?

2005-08-08 Thread Devonna Snuggs



Sorry 
for your loss! Glad you are still here though and haven't been 'scared' 
away

RTR!!

Devonna

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of White, Billy Wayne (GE 
Consumer  Industrial)Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 12:44 
AMTo: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion 
ListSubject: RE: [RollTideFan] Billy Wayne?
Yep, still 
here. Right after I joined we had a death in the family and I haven't been 
around much since.But I've about got that all squared away and ready 
forBamafootball.
Even though I 
haven't been active in posting,I have enjoyed the Bama email, or at least 
those that make it through the profanity filter! I have a feeling I'll 
miss several emails and maybe all from some posters!
Roll 
Tide! 
Uncle 
Wayne 

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Rick 
  McMahanSent: Monday, August 01, 2005 5:49 PMTo: 
  RTFSubject: [RollTideFan] Billy Wayne?Whatever happened to our newbie? He said hi, introduced 
  himslef, then promptly disappeared. Our wierdnesses must of freaked him 
  out. :-) Uncle Wayne, 
  you still out there?Roll Tide!!Rick 
Mc.
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RE: [RollTideFan] Trip To Columbia SC

2005-08-08 Thread Devonna Snuggs
the alumni office has a trip, I believe.  Sorry, I don't know of any hotels
close to the area.





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Does anyone know if anybody is getting a trip up to Columbia SC or tell me
some motels close to the field? Where will the team be staying at in
Columbia?


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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-08 Thread Bryan Benefield
Wanna fight about it?

--- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Excellent point. As am Irishman, that mascot name is
 definitely 
 offensive to me. :)
 
 RTR!
 Rick
 
 
 
 Rusty wrote:
  I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but if
 indian mascots are offensive
  to Native Americans and cannot be tolerated, when
 does Notre Dumb have to
  stop being the fighting irish?  Talk about a
 stereotype...surely they meet
  the hostile and abusive standard set by the
 ncaa.
  
 
 
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-08 Thread Rick McMahan

I'm game. With sparing gear or without? Makes no difference to me.

Rick



Bryan Benefield wrote:

Wanna fight about it?

--- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Excellent point. As am Irishman, that mascot name is
definitely 
offensive to me. :)


RTR!
Rick



Rusty wrote:


I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but if


indian mascots are offensive


to Native Americans and cannot be tolerated, when


does Notre Dumb have to


stop being the fighting irish?  Talk about a


stereotype...surely they meet


the hostile and abusive standard set by the


ncaa.






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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-08 Thread Bryan Benefield
Let's drink first like true Irishters.

--- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm game. With sparing gear or without? Makes no
 difference to me.
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 Bryan Benefield wrote:
  Wanna fight about it?
  
  --- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 Excellent point. As am Irishman, that mascot name
 is
 definitely 
 offensive to me. :)
 
 RTR!
 Rick
 
 
 
 Rusty wrote:
 
 I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but if
 
 indian mascots are offensive
 
 to Native Americans and cannot be tolerated, when
 
 does Notre Dumb have to
 
 stop being the fighting irish?  Talk about a
 
 stereotype...surely they meet
 
 the hostile and abusive standard set by the
 
 ncaa.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [RollTideFan] Odd Yet Interesting

2005-08-07 Thread Lizard Fish

Also from the same site:

http://www.ne-o.co.uk/vw.html


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[RollTideFan] Whizzzz (Non)

2005-08-07 Thread TIDE1



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An American tourist in London decides to skip the tour group and 
explore the city on his own. He wanders around, seeing the sights, 
occasionally stopping at a quaint pub to soak up the local culture, 
chat with the lads, and have a pint of stout.

After a while, he finds himself in a very high class neighborhood, 
big stately residences, no pubs, no stores, no restaurants, and 
worst of all, NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS.

He really, really had to go, after all those stouts.

He finds a narrow side street, with high walls surrounding the 
adjacent buildings, and decides to use the wall to solve his problem. 

As he unzipping, he is tapped on the shoulder by a London Bobby, 
who says, I say sir.

I'm very sorry Officer, replies the American, but I really, really 
HAVE TO GO, and I can't find a public restroom.

Ah yes, says the Bobby, just follow me sir.

He leads him to a back delivery alley, then along a wall to a gate, 
which he opens.

In there, points the Bobby. Whiz away, sir, anywhere you want. 

The fellow enters and finds himself in the most beautiful garden he 
has ever seen, manicured grass lawns, statues, fountains, sculptured 
hedges, and huge beds of gorgeous flowers, all in perfect bloom. 

Since he has the cop's blessing, he unburdens himself and is greatly 
relieved.

As he goes back through the gate, he says to the Bobby, that was 
really decent of you. Is that what you call 'British Hospitality'?

No sir, replies the Bobby, that is what we call the French Embassy.




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[RollTideFan] 27 days....

2005-08-07 Thread Joe Goodson



1 hour and 23 minutes
"I have often regretted my speech, never my 
silence." - Xenocrates (396-314 B.C.)
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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-07 Thread JVWatts

Rusty wrote:


when does Notre Dumb have to stop being the fighting irish?  Talk about a 
stereotype...surely they meet the hostile and abusive standard set by the 
ncaa.

RS


Executive Committee Chairman Walter Harrison, however, already has set the
NCAA's sights on details as small as the spear on a Seminoles helmet.

An institution may adopt whatever mascots it wishes; that's an
institutional matter that involves their integrity and autonomy as an
institution, said Harrison, president of the University of Hartford, on a
conference call. 




(But as a national association, we believe that mascots,
nicknames or images deemed hostile or abusive in terms of race, ethnicity or
national origin should not be visible at the championship events that we
control.)

 

In that sentence right thereIt makes Fighting Irish just as 
offensive as BravesI also think they should make South Carolina 
and Jax State stop using the term GamecocksIt's arggin' animal 
abuse to fight chickensand what about Bengal Tigers That's an 
endangered speciesI'm offended that they're not more sensitive to 
the concenrs and feelings of animals and animal rights activistsJVWatts


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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-07 Thread Joe Goodson
All of this touchy feely politically correct bullshit is getting on my last 
nerve.  They should just flush the NCAA to the bottom of the sea and start 
all over.


Joe

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence 
of our friends.

- Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)
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Rusty wrote:

when does Notre Dumb have to stop being the fighting irish?  Talk about a 
stereotype...surely they meet the hostile and abusive standard set by 
the ncaa.


RS


Executive Committee Chairman Walter Harrison, however, already has set the
NCAA's sights on details as small as the spear on a Seminoles helmet.

An institution may adopt whatever mascots it wishes; that's an
institutional matter that involves their integrity and autonomy as an
institution, said Harrison, president of the University of Hartford, on a
conference call.



(But as a national association, we believe that mascots,
nicknames or images deemed hostile or abusive in terms of race, ethnicity 
or

national origin should not be visible at the championship events that we
control.)


In that sentence right thereIt makes Fighting Irish just as 
offensive as BravesI also think they should make South Carolina and 
Jax State stop using the term GamecocksIt's arggin' animal abuse to 
fight chickensand what about Bengal Tigers That's an endangered 
speciesI'm offended that they're not more sensitive to the concenrs 
and feelings of animals and animal rights activistsJVWatts


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[RollTideFan] Trip To Columbia SC

2005-08-07 Thread 1tide1
Does anyone know if anybody is getting a trip up to Columbia SC or tell me some 
motels close to the field? Where will the team be staying at in Columbia?


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[RollTideFan] Former professional ball player arrested in raid

2005-08-06 Thread kurt rasmussen
http://www.al.com/news/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/news/1123332310139870.xmlcoll=3

Former professional ball player arrested in raid
Saturday, August 06, 2005
By JEFF AMY
Staff Reporter

Former professional football player Ralph Lahquan Staten was arrested
early Friday by Mobile County sheriff's deputies on charges of cocaine
trafficking and possession of marijuana.

Staten, 30, was arrested after deputies raided a trailer in a mobile
home park at 5530 Natchez Highway in Wilmer. Deputies found powdered
and crack cocaine totaling a little more than two ounces and a small
amount of marijuana, according to Christina Bowersox, spokeswoman for
the Sheriff's Department. Deputies also seized a handgun and two
vehicles.

Staten was an all-state player at Mary G. Montgomery High School before
signing as a linebacker with the University of Alabama in 1993. Staten
was suspended by coach Gene Stallings for breaking team rules, but was
also chosen as an all-SEC player.

He was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens in the seventh round of the 1997
NFL draft and played two seasons. After being released, he played with
the Mobile Seagulls of the Indoor Professional Football League and from
2000 to 2002 in the Canadian Football League.

While a member of the Ravens, Staten was arrested when a 9 mm
semiautomatic handgun was found in his car after he failed to negotiate
a curve and struck a guardrail. In a previous incident, Staten was
charged with drunken driving when his car collided with another in
Baltimore County.

Staten was arrested on similar drug charges in a 2004 traffic stop but
was never prosecuted, according to court records. He was being held in
Mobile County Metro Jail Friday pending a Monday bond hearing.

Bowersox said deputies were investigating to see whether other people
are involved. 

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[RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-06 Thread Charles
.

Schools that have already been awarded NCAA championships won't have their
hosting sites revoked but must take reasonable steps to cover up offending
logos, which can be found anywhere from a painted sign on the centerfield
scoreboard to the grass on a soccer field.

Florida State is not scheduled to host any postseason events. But the school
has been awarded baseball regionals on an almost annual basis and may now
have hosted its last this spring.

The NCAA is also giving schools until Aug. 1, 2008, to remove offending
references on their mascots, cheerleaders, dance teams, band uniforms and
paraphernalia during championship competition.

Wetherell vowed the references wouldn't be removed altogether. This
university will forever be associated with the 'unconquered' spirit of the
Seminole Tribe of Florida.

Ted Hutton of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel contributed to this report.
Emily Badger can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Arthur Dent: You know, it's at times like this, when I'm stuck in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young. Ford Prefect: Why? What did she tell you? Arthur Dent: I don't know.
I didn't listen. 



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[RollTideFan] University of Alabama Alumni Association of Indiana

2005-08-06 Thread kurt rasmussen


http://mywebpages.comcast.net/uaindiana/index.html

Congratulations are in order for both the Men's Alabama Basketball team
and our new head coach Mike Price. [...]

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[RollTideFan] Odd Yet Interesting

2005-08-06 Thread Mike Laborde
http://www.ne-o.co.uk/fshock.html









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RE: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-06 Thread Rusty
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but if indian mascots are offensive
to Native Americans and cannot be tolerated, when does Notre Dumb have to
stop being the fighting irish?  Talk about a stereotype...surely they meet
the hostile and abusive standard set by the ncaa.

RS

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Ban stuns Seminoles
NCAA bars American Indian mascots and symbols from tournaments -- FSU
threatens legal fight

By Emily Badger | Sentinel Staff Writer Posted August 6, 2005 


TEAM NAMES CLASSIFIED AS 'HOSTILE AND ABUSIVE'
.  Alcorn State University BRAVES
.  Arkansas State University INDIANS
.  Bradley University BRAVES
.  Carthage College REDMEN
.  Catawba College INDIANS
.  Central Michigan University CHIPPEWAS
.  Chowan College BRAVES
.  Florida State University SEMINOLES
.  Illinois-Champaign?s ILLINI
.  Indiana University of Pa. INDIANS
.  Louisiana-Monroe INDIANS
.  McMurry University INDIANS
.  Midwestern State University INDIANS
.  Mississippi College CHOCTAWS
.  Newberry College INDIANS
.  University of Utah UTES
.  North Dakota FIGHTING SIOUX
.  Southeastern Oklahoma State SAVAGES 




TALLAHASSEE -- The NCAA on Friday took its strongest stance yet against
American Indian mascots and imagery, announcing that 18 schools -- including
Florida State -- cannot host postseason competition as long as their current
names and logos are in place. They must also cover up or remove references
to those logos when traveling to NCAA championships.

The decision, which stunned Florida State officials, came out of Thursday's
annual meeting of the NCAA's Executive Committee and Division I board of
directors. The NCAA had asked 30 schools this spring to submit reports on
whether their mascots, team names and pageantry violated the association's
principles of cultural diversity. When the issue finally reached the
Executive Committee on Thursday, few expected such a decisive policy after
years of the NCAA's hands-off approach to mascots.

NCAA President Myles Brand singled out 18 schools as having prima facie
hostile and abusive symbols, and advocates praised that list for including
what they consider the biggest offenders, such as Florida State, Illinois,
Utah and North Dakota.

The executive committee did not specify exactly what would be considered
hostile and abusive. That definition may take years to evolve, with Florida
State one of the first schools Friday to threaten a lawsuit.

Executive Committee Chairman Walter Harrison, however, already has set the
NCAA's sights on details as small as the spear on a Seminoles helmet.

An institution may adopt whatever mascots it wishes; that's an
institutional matter that involves their integrity and autonomy as an
institution, said Harrison, president of the University of Hartford, on a
conference call. But as a national association, we believe that mascots,
nicknames or images deemed hostile or abusive in terms of race, ethnicity or
national origin should not be visible at the championship events that we
control.

The NCAA does not control the college football bowl system, meaning the new
policy may have limited effect on Division I football. But Harrison said he
hoped the Bowl Championship Series would follow the same procedures. Big 12
Commissioner Kevin Weiberg, currently chair of the BCS, was not prepared to
comment Friday.

FSU President T.K. Wetherell said in a statement that he intends to pursue
all legal avenues to overturn the decision, and he pointed to a resolution
passed June 17 by the Seminole Tribe of Florida embracing the university's
use of the Seminole name and imagery.

That the NCAA would now label our close bond with the Seminole people as
culturally 'hostile and abusive' is both outrageous and insulting,
Wetherell said.

The rules as we understand them would have us cover the Seminole name and
symbol as if we were embarrassed, and any committee that would think that is
a proper and respectful treatment of Native Americans should be ashamed.

The new policy will take effect in February -- beginning, for example, with
next year's NCAA basketball tournament -- to allow schools a chance to
complain. But both Harrison and Brand stressed that the decision was four
years in the making. Harrison was also confident it would stand up in court.

While many advocacy groups were celebrating the decision Friday, the
Seminole Tribe of Florida joined Florida State in its anger.

You have non-natives making a decision about native names, said Max
Osceola, a member of the Seminole Tribe of Florida's tribal council. Maybe
it took them four years, but it's been a lifetime we've been known as the
Seminoles.

The NCAA took into consideration the resolution the Seminole Tribe of
Florida passed June 17. But the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma has

Re: [RollTideFan] University of Alabama Alumni Association of Indiana

2005-08-06 Thread Bryan Benefield
mebbe theyre awaiting somethin better to put up, like
makin' it to #24 on the coaches pole...

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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-06 Thread Rick McMahan
Excellent point. As am Irishman, that mascot name is definitely 
offensive to me. :)


RTR!
Rick



Rusty wrote:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but if indian mascots are offensive
to Native Americans and cannot be tolerated, when does Notre Dumb have to
stop being the fighting irish?  Talk about a stereotype...surely they meet
the hostile and abusive standard set by the ncaa.





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[RollTideFan] Gamecock's New Starting QB

2005-08-06 Thread Rick McMahan

SOS is impressed...

http://paulwesterdawg.blogspot.com/2005/08/caption-contest-spurrier-looks-on.html


Rick



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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-06 Thread PIRATESPT
If this is true...it amounts to another genocide on American Indiansjust 
another way to forget they were ever hereI dont care what they call Notre 
Dame...I will hate them till the day I die

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Re: [RollTideFan] Seen this poll yet?

2005-08-06 Thread Joe Goodson
Auburn gets no respect.and rightfully so.  If Bama had finished the 
previous season ranked #2, it would have been in the top 5 in the pre season 
poll.  I'll guarantee that.


Joe

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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Seen this poll yet?



kurt rasmussen wrote:


Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://www.ucsrankings.com/

Bama #3 ??!?!?!?!



Crack... Dude's on crack.

kurt


The coach's poll is out and the Tide is 24th.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm

Dennis

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[RollTideFan] FOOTBALL FIX!!!!!!!!!!

2005-08-06 Thread Mike Laborde
NFL preseason ball starts today @ 5:00 CDT on ESPN.

It ain't Bama but it's football!

THANK YOU GOD!








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Re: [RollTideFan] University of Alabama Alumni Association of Indiana

2005-08-06 Thread kurt rasmussen

A pla of mine I sent this to said that he thot that Indiana BAMA fans 
were like the rest of BAMA fans.  They live in the past.  Indiana Bama
fans not quite so much. 

heh..

kurt
--- Bryan Benefield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mebbe theyre awaiting somethin better to put up, like
 makin' it to #24 on the coaches pole...
 
 --- kurt rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  http://mywebpages.comcast.net/uaindiana/index.html
  
  Congratulations are in order for both the Men's
  Alabama Basketball team
  and our new head coach Mike Price. [...]
  
  Deer Lowered.
  
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Re: [RollTideFan] Seen this poll yet?

2005-08-06 Thread Rick McMahan

Joe Goodson wrote:
Auburn gets no respect.and rightfully so.  If Bama had finished the 
previous season ranked #2, it would have been in the top 5 in the pre 
season poll.  I'll guarantee that.




Only if Bear Bryant was the coach.

Rick



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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL FIX!!!!!!!!!!

2005-08-06 Thread Mike Laborde
Did anyone else notice the air raid siren going off after touchdowns? Kinda
appropriate in Japan on August 6th, wouldn't you say?




--- Original Message ---
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 18:23:58 -0500, Rick McMahan wrote:
 GREAT!, IT'S ALREADY HALFTIME BEFORE I RECEIVED THE FREAKING
 MESSAGE! ;-)

 Go Dirty Birds
 Rick


 Mike Laborde wrote:
 NFL preseason ball starts today @ 5:00 CDT on ESPN.

 It ain't Bama but it's football!

 THANK YOU GOD!













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Re: [RollTideFan] FOOTBALL FIX!!!!!!!!!!

2005-08-06 Thread Rick McMahan
GREAT!, IT'S ALREADY HALFTIME BEFORE I RECEIVED THE FREAKING 
MESSAGE! ;-)


Go Dirty Birds
Rick



Mike Laborde wrote:

NFL preseason ball starts today @ 5:00 CDT on ESPN.

It ain't Bama but it's football!

THANK YOU GOD!





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Re: [RollTideFan] Odd Yet Interesting

2005-08-06 Thread Ken Harness

unh
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http://www.ne-o.co.uk/fshock.html









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Re: [RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-06 Thread John R. Wodziak

At 17:33 06-08-05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If this is true...it amounts to another genocide on American Indiansjust
another way to forget they were ever hereI dont care what they call Notre
Dame...I will hate them till the day I die


I care what they call Notre Dumb. Shite, you can call them AweBum and
they would still be Irish or CowLovers and stupid.

The Seamanoles should be retired (like Bibby Bowdown) but the NC$$$
 name restriction, means that the NC$$, should be put out to pasture.




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[RollTideFan] Former Bama Kicker Watches His Historic House Burn

2005-08-05 Thread kurt rasmussen
nbc13.com
Former Bama Kicker Watches His Historic House Burn

POSTED: 2:09 pm CDT August 4, 2005

FLORENCE, Ala. -- A century-old two-story house owned by one of
Alabama's former star football players sustained heavy damage during a
fire in the city's historic district.

Van Tiffin became a part of Crimson Tide folklore when his last-second,
52-yard field goal defeated rival Auburn in 1985. He stood helplessly
yesterday afternoon as he watched firefighters put out the fire.

Tiffin said he and his wife bought the home several months ago and had
been renovating it. The blaze was reported to shortly before noon and
according to firefighters the home is salvageable.

An investigator said the fire apparently started as roofers were
welding the portion of the roof that covers the porch to the roof's
sloped portion.

No one was in the house when the fire started.

One firefighter was treated for apparent heat exhaustion and smoke
inhalation

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[RollTideFan] Tide Opener on Pay-Per-View

2005-08-05 Thread kurt rasmussen
Tide Opener on Pay-Per-View 

  By Mitch Dobbs 
Date: Aug 4, 2005

Alabama's season opener against Middle Tennessee will be available for
purchase on pay-per-view, Crimson Tide Sports Marketing Director of
Broadcasting Tom Roberts said Thursday evening. 


Roberts made the announcement on the network’s weekly call-in show,
“Hey, Coach!”. DirectTV and Dish Network channel information and
availability will be released at a later date. 

Kickoff for the game will be 6 p.m. 

Alabama's second game of the year, versus Southern Miss, will be
broadcast on espn2 beginning at 6:45 p.m. Game three against South
Carolina in Columbia, S.C. is scheduled for a 2:30 p.m. CT start with
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Re: [RollTideFan] Trivia Question

2005-08-05 Thread piratespt

Hes got a job...coaching college ball at Millsapsa long comeback-Original Message-From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.netSent: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:50:15 -0500Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Trivia Question


Touching his man-tits or clapping. One of the two.




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 I was at the O'Charley's in Gardendale today  they had an
 autographed photo of Dumbose.  Can you guess what he was doing in
 the photo?  I laffed out loud.







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Re: [RollTideFan] Trivia Question

2005-08-05 Thread Bryan Benefield

His secretary?
--- Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Touching his man-tits or clapping. One of the two.
 
 
 
 
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 On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:28:16 -0500, Pat Smoot wrote:
 
  I was at the O'Charley's in Gardendale today 
 they had an
  autographed photo of Dumbose.  Can you guess what
 he was doing in
  the photo?  I laffed out loud.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[RollTideFan] Does Anybody Know About Torn ACL's????

2005-08-05 Thread JVWatts
My daughter came home last night complaining about her knee 
hurtingI'm used to it being that she's always been the athletic and 
rough and tumble type. She said she hurt it while stretching at band 
practice. I didn't notice anything telling about it, but I iced it down 
and made her elevate it.
She came home from school today and could hardly walk. I asked her 
specifically where it was hurting and she pointed to the muscle, tendon, 
ligament, thingy that runs to the back and inside of the kneeI'm 
worried this may be an ACL tear

Any advice I've never dealt with that type of injury

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[RollTideFan] NCAA - Nat. Collegiate Arsehole Assoc.

2005-08-05 Thread Bryan Benefield
.


The board also approved a two-year contract extension
for Brand. His deal was to run through Dec. 31, 2007
and now includes an indefinite two-year rollover.






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