[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-25 Thread Minh Nguyen

Hi Michael,

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:40 AM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:


SNIP

 If you also used the author/reviewer system as I do in the release
 notes no confusion should arise and you mention all people getting
 credit on the ticket :)

 Thoughts?

Holy bit bucket! What a simple, yet effective idea! OK, I've gone
through the release tour at

http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1

and have synced the credit there with the release notes for the alpha0
and the various rc's. As yet, there are still two tickets to
summarize: namely #5230 and #5706, which are both related to 3-D
graphics. The Australian mirror just recently has a local copy of the
Sage 3.4.1 source distribution. I haven't yet compile that on my local
machine, so it would be some time in the next 24 hours before I can
finish off the release tour.

Anyway, you might want to look at the credit for #5180. On the wiki page

http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1

for the release tour of Sage 3.4.1, David Loeffler has put down Georg
S. Weber, Chris Kurth and himself as contributors of code for that
ticket. The patch  5180-arithgroups.patch on that ticket certainly has
Chris Kurth as an author. So at the moment, after David's edit the
credit for #5180 goes like this: David Loeffler, Georg S. Weber, Chris
Kurth. This is inconsistent with the release note for 3.4.1.rc0, in
which only David Loeffler is listed as the code contributor, with
Georg Weber as reviewer.

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[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-25 Thread mabshoff



On Apr 24, 11:01 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Michael,

Hi Minh,

 for the release tour of Sage 3.4.1, David Loeffler has put down Georg
 S. Weber, Chris Kurth and himself as contributors of code for that
 ticket. The patch  5180-arithgroups.patch on that ticket certainly has
 Chris Kurth as an author. So at the moment, after David's edit the
 credit for #5180 goes like this: David Loeffler, Georg S. Weber, Chris
 Kurth. This is inconsistent with the release note for 3.4.1.rc0, in
 which only David Loeffler is listed as the code contributor, with
 Georg Weber as reviewer.

Well, Georg says:

For the record:

I do not count the last patch as worth mentioning in any release
notes, especially all credit for the code should go to Dave. (Errors
in the additional patch are completely mine, of course!)

Cheers, gsw

I do not see any mention where David suggests that Georg should share
authorship credit.

Re the missing Chris Kurth authoership credit - I changed it in my
current version, but that has not been posted.

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 Regards
 Minh Van Nguyen

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-25 Thread Minh Nguyen

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:10 AM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:



 On Apr 24, 11:01 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Michael,

 Hi Minh,

 for the release tour of Sage 3.4.1, David Loeffler has put down Georg
 S. Weber, Chris Kurth and himself as contributors of code for that
 ticket. The patch  5180-arithgroups.patch on that ticket certainly has
 Chris Kurth as an author. So at the moment, after David's edit the
 credit for #5180 goes like this: David Loeffler, Georg S. Weber, Chris
 Kurth. This is inconsistent with the release note for 3.4.1.rc0, in
 which only David Loeffler is listed as the code contributor, with
 Georg Weber as reviewer.

 Well, Georg says:

 For the record:

 I do not count the last patch as worth mentioning in any release
 notes, especially all credit for the code should go to Dave. (Errors
 in the additional patch are completely mine, of course!)

 Cheers, gsw

 I do not see any mention where David suggests that Georg should share
 authorship credit.

 Re the missing Chris Kurth authoership credit - I changed it in my
 current version, but that has not been posted.

OK, on the release tour for 3.4.1, I've changed the code credit for
#5180 to David Loeffler and Chris Kurth.

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Minh Van Nguyen

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[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-24 Thread mabshoff



On Apr 22, 11:40 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Michael,

Hi Minh,

 My policy thus far is to list the author(s) of the patch(es). The case
 you mentioned above was a result of me misreading ticket #5146. This
 is because for the patch variety_patch.3.patch, I saw the description
 Updated with some of Martin's comments so I assumed that Martin had
 some direct input. I tried to be generous in attributing credit.

Well, if someone posts a 3 kb reviewer patch for a 250kb patch (#5180
for example) I tend to give a person reviewer credit. In fact,
anything marked as reviewer patch should not get author credit. Often
enough someone fixes a tiny issue in a patch and just posts the
changed original patch of the author - this happens quite often when
people use queues. I would prefer if the notes I post for each alpha
and rc would match the credit mentioned in the release tour. That way
it is easy enough for someone to complain if they shouldn't or didn't
get credit and the two different documents would be in sync, i.e. you
see on list when I fix things and you should let me know if anyone
complained about the release tour.  Because I took a look at the
changes by David Loeffler I gave Chris Kurth partial author credit for
#5180.

If you also used the author/reviewer system as I do in the release
notes no confusion should arise and you mention all people getting
credit on the ticket :)

Thoughts?

 --
 Regards
 Minh Van Nguyen

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-23 Thread Minh Nguyen

Hi Michael,

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 it would be good if you contributed a feature to Sage 3.4.1 to check
 the release tour at

   http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1

 and edit what is there already in case it can be improved or add
 something in case it is missing.

 Minh: You seem to list both author[s] and reviewer[s] for credit, but
 it seems better to either only list the author or make clear who author
 [s] and reviewer[s] were. I see that Martin Albrecht already changed
 that for one ticket and I think he is correct.

My policy thus far is to list the author(s) of the patch(es). The case
you mentioned above was a result of me misreading ticket #5146. This
is because for the patch variety_patch.3.patch, I saw the description
Updated with some of Martin's comments so I assumed that Martin had
some direct input. I tried to be generous in attributing credit.

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Regards
Minh Van Nguyen

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[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-23 Thread Minh Nguyen

Hi folks,

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 it would be good if you contributed a feature to Sage 3.4.1 to check
 the release tour at

   http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1

 and edit what is there already in case it can be improved or add
 something in case it is missing.

Can someone please help me showcase the features of #5450? In
particular, it would be good to have some images of 3-D plots that the
ticket is meant to fix/add/feature. My net connection is pretty poor
so I can't directly download Sage 3.4.1 or upgrade to it. For most
features, I would just use sage.math. Doing a 3-D plot would give me a
jmol object saved under the directory $HOME/.sage, but I can't figure
out how to view 3-D plots using sage.math.

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[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout

Minh Nguyen wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 it would be good if you contributed a feature to Sage 3.4.1 to check
 the release tour at

   http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1

 and edit what is there already in case it can be improved or add
 something in case it is missing.
 
 Can someone please help me showcase the features of #5450? In
 particular, it would be good to have some images of 3-D plots that the
 ticket is meant to fix/add/feature. My net connection is pretty poor
 so I can't directly download Sage 3.4.1 or upgrade to it. For most
 features, I would just use sage.math. Doing a 3-D plot would give me a
 jmol object saved under the directory $HOME/.sage, but I can't figure
 out how to view 3-D plots using sage.math.
 

I think of that patch as more of a bugfix than a new feature, so i 
didn't think it was necessary to mention in the release notes.  However, 
it should make the plotting quite a bit faster (you can plot lots of 
points in not very much time, but it's harder to plot lots of spheres). 
  Maybe one of the best applications would be a 3d vector field, where 
you want to plot lots and lots of vectors very quickly.

So maybe the plot_vector_field3d function would provide a good example 
(see http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/2646).  I've posted a 
picture there.  Basically, that command (the last function defined in 
the comments on the ticket) should provide a lot more responsive picture 
than before, because it now plots line3d objects instead of full arrow 
objects.

I've published an example here: http://sagenb.org/home/pub/474/

You can get the picture by clicking on the Get Image link next to the 3d 
plot after adjusting the angle to whatever you want.

For what it's worth, that plot_vector_field3d at #2646 just needs some 
documentation, and then I think it's ready to go into Sage too.



Jason

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