Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland on TNT
I agree, King is great. Deserves an Emmy nomination. But I can't give the rest of the cast a pass for that. I'm not even arguing that the portrayal's unrealistic. Maybe it represents a real-life precinct where most of the cops are white and Latino, and the criminals mostly black and Latino. I just still feel we need to have Brothers shown in a more varied light than this. I think next week's show focuses on a black cop, so maybe he'll be more central to the story? - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:49:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Southland on TNT I find the series remarkably honest, straight forward and faithful to its milieu - an anomaly for cop shows. All the things you mentioned are usually pet peeves of mine but they don't bother me in this instance. I can't really explain why except to say, for me, casting Regina KIng - and giving her so much to do - gives everybody else a ghetto pass. When the cops do something as simple as unbuckling their seat belts before exiting their cars to chase perpetrators - I don't remember ever seeing that in a cop show before - this is part of the verisimilitude that makes this show a pleasure for me to watch. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I'm really starting to have problems with this show. I like the cast, love Regina King's strong character. I even like the camera work, which has that Cops feel, but is done skillfully enough so that it doesn't irritate me. But my problem? The depiction of black people! I noticed this from the get-go, but other than the odd black cop with about 30 seconds of screen time, I see almost no positive black characters. The black women I've seen have all been victims: murdered drug users and prostitutes, pursued witnesses, aggrieved mothers (Oh Lawd, Lawd! Not my baby!!) The men are aggressors: the gangbangers who war on the streets, rich drug dealers who are Grade A stereotypes, young street thugs who literally sell out their girlfriends to criminals looking for them, arrogant high school football players who make light of assaulting women (We're one step away from the BCS. Ain't nobody gonna do nuthin' to me). And there was the really cool one where the young black boys took turns throwing rocks at the body of a naked murdered woman (black of course) ,and then filmed their exploits for the Net. I know we gots our problems in LA. I guess this show focuses on an area of the city that's mostly black and Latino and crime ridden. And maybe it's realistic that the cops patrolling that area are mostly white, but this is really starting to wear on me. Yeah yeah, the whites aren't perfect: we've got the cops who are alcoholics, the cops in dysfunctional marriages, the cops who are overly aggressive and hiding possible homosexuality, the cops who have no life outside of the job. But they're all cops at least--at least trying to uphold the law, not break it. There are even a few Latino cops to offset the Latino criminals frequently shown. But in the main, Brothers and Sisters ain't looking so good, especially the Brothers. I really am not liking this disproportionate display, and if this is how the show is to continue, then canceled or not, I'd have reevaluate watching it regularly.
[scifinoir2] Moon eclipses Twilight
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=10185124 LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Twilight fans didn't show up en masse for recent new movies starring Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, but they snapped up plenty of copies of The Twilight Saga: New Moon DVD when it went on sale at 12:01 a.m. Saturday. Summit Entertainment, the studio behind the teen vampire franchise, reported Tuesday that the DVD of the second installment in the Twilight saga sold more than 4 million units in its first weekend, surpassing the 3.8 million opening-weekend sales that the first Twilight racked up in 2009. That film went on to become the top-selling DVD of the year, with 9.2 million units sold.
[scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin.
[scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos
Every so often, famous folks appear in comic books to lend some real-world veracity to the spandex-clad antics. Sometimes the cameo works and everyone has clean, kitschy fun. Other times the cameo fucks up the plot beyond all comprehension. These are some of those other times. http://www.cracked.com/article_16031_the-5-most-insane-celebrity-comic-book-cameos.html
[scifinoir2] Superman vs. Spider-Man plus Ali vs. Superman
http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/499/
Re: [scifinoir2] Kurosawa Marathon Running on TCM - Last Night!
I missed Roshoman, but I did catch the last 90 minutes plus of Seven Samurai. Excellent film. I recorded the rest. Too bad they don't repeat them. One of the things that I loved about Kurosawa is the beauty of his cinematography. Every scene is like a portrait. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: They just finished showing Roshoman and Seven Samurai is playing now, to be followed by Yojimbo - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2010 8:21:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Kurosawa Marathon Running on TCM Now! To celebrate the upcoming 100th birthday of the late famed director Akira Kurosawa, Turner Classic Movies is running a Kurosawa marathon for the next three Tuesdays in March. Starting at 8 pm EST tonight, it kicks off with Ikiru, the story of a bureaucrat who finally decides to try living once he's been diagnosed with a fatal disease. That's followed by Throne of Blood, then The Hidden Fortress (which is said to be a major inspiration for Star Wars), and two other movies. The marathon's running for the next twelve hours on this first block. The marathon's culmination on Tuesday, March 23 is capped off by classic films Rashomon, The Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, and Ran. For those who've seen little to none of Kurosawa's work (and I'm unfortunately among that group), this is a golden opportunity to see one of the best and most influential directors in history. You can get the full schedule at the link below. While there, I suggest taking time to click on the sidebar links for each of the films, which give really great descriptions about each. http://www.tcm.com/thismonth/article/?cid=290045mainArticleId=290029 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea
I saw a documentary on this a couple of years ago hosted by Authur C. Clarke. He warned about the audience about how the dangers of global warming would settle the dispute. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea By NIRMALA GEORGE, Associated Press Writer Nirmala George, Associated Press Writer – Wed Mar 24, 9:29 am ET NEW DELHI – For nearly 30 years, India and Bangladesh have argued over control of a tiny rock island in the Bay of Bengal. Now rising sea levels have resolved the dispute for them: the island's gone. New Moore Island in the Sunderbans has been completely submerged, said oceanographer Sugata Hazra, a professor at Jadavpur University in Calcutta. Its disappearance has been confirmed by satellite imagery and sea patrols, he said. What these two countries could not achieve from years of talking, has been resolved by global warming, said Hazra. Scientists at the School of Oceanographic Studies at the university have noted an alarming increase in the rate at which sea levels have risen over the past decade in the Bay of Bengal. Until 2000, the sea levels rose about 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) a year, but over the last decade they have been rising about 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) annually, he said. Another nearby island, Lohachara, was submerged in 1996, forcing its inhabitants to move to the mainland, while almost half the land of Ghoramara island was underwater, he said. At least 10 other islands in the area were at risk as well, Hazra said. We will have ever larger numbers of people displaced from the Sunderbans as more island areas come under water, he said. Bangladesh, a low-lying delta nation of 150 million people, is one of the countries worst-affected by global warming. Officials estimate 18 percent of Bangladesh's coastal area will be underwater and 20 million people will be displaced if sea levels rise 1 meter (3.3 feet) by 2050 as projected by some climate models. India and Bangladesh both claimed the empty New Moore Island, which is about 3.5 kilometers (2 miles) long and 3 kilometers (1.5 miles) wide. Bangladesh referred to the island as South Talpatti. There were no permanent structures on New Moore, but India sent some paramilitary soldiers to its rocky shores in 1981 to hoist its national flag. The demarcation of the maritime boundary — and who controls the remaining islands — remains an open issue between the two South Asian neighbors, despite the disappearance of New Moore, said an official in India's foreign ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on international disputes. Bangladesh officials were not available for comment Wednesday. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Trapped in the Closet
http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/912 The R. Kelly cameos in this are priceless! ~rave!
Re: [scifinoir2] Google switches to Hong Kong
I think that there are two ways to look at this. 1. Google is trying to impose American values on China. We have been guilty of doing something similar over the many years that this country has been around. Freedom of speech is something that does not exist fully in China and never has never existed on a large scale there. They have learned how to find a happy medium between being ruled with an iron fist and a free society. or 2. Google is doing what is right for all people. This seems to be the general consensus in the western world. It pretty much works on some levels but when it threatens the status quo and the government it breaks down very quickly. However, we have enjoyed the fruits of freedom of press and speech for so long that we believe everyone should have it as well. It is good for business and good for humanity as well. I got Google's back. :) On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: It's a cyber-war, y'all! Question is, whose money will reach farther? China will try to use political measures, no doubt, but their record's too bad to get them far in that aspect. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35981427/ns/technology_and_science-security/ BEIJING - China moved to block access to Google's Hong Kong site, The New York Times reported Tuesday, after the Internet giant began redirecting tens of millions of Chinese users to its uncensored server in the former British colony. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Sexual Healing
The latest in scientific testing reveals that some of the boys at South Park Elementary have a sex addiction problem. http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/267106
Re: [scifinoir2] Survivors
No, because I've stopped watching. It's still tagged to Saturdays in my part of the world, and I Autotune it for viewing, but invariably opt out a few minutes in for something else. Just isn't grabbing me anymore. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone notice that they changed the night the show comes on, AND have already started season 2??? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea
Mother Nature send both parties an n-mail (nature-mail). It's *mine*, suckers! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea By NIRMALA GEORGE, Associated Press Writer Nirmala George, Associated Press Writer – Wed Mar 24, 9:29 am ET NEW DELHI – For nearly 30 years, India and Bangladesh have argued over control of a tiny rock island in the Bay of Bengal. Now rising sea levels have resolved the dispute for them: the island's gone. New Moore Island in the Sunderbans has been completely submerged, said oceanographer Sugata Hazra, a professor at Jadavpur University in Calcutta. Its disappearance has been confirmed by satellite imagery and sea patrols, he said. What these two countries could not achieve from years of talking, has been resolved by global warming, said Hazra. Scientists at the School of Oceanographic Studies at the university have noted an alarming increase in the rate at which sea levels have risen over the past decade in the Bay of Bengal. Until 2000, the sea levels rose about 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) a year, but over the last decade they have been rising about 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) annually, he said. Another nearby island, Lohachara, was submerged in 1996, forcing its inhabitants to move to the mainland, while almost half the land of Ghoramara island was underwater, he said. At least 10 other islands in the area were at risk as well, Hazra said. We will have ever larger numbers of people displaced from the Sunderbans as more island areas come under water, he said. Bangladesh, a low-lying delta nation of 150 million people, is one of the countries worst-affected by global warming. Officials estimate 18 percent of Bangladesh's coastal area will be underwater and 20 million people will be displaced if sea levels rise 1 meter (3.3 feet) by 2050 as projected by some climate models. India and Bangladesh both claimed the empty New Moore Island, which is about 3.5 kilometers (2 miles) long and 3 kilometers (1.5 miles) wide. Bangladesh referred to the island as South Talpatti. There were no permanent structures on New Moore, but India sent some paramilitary soldiers to its rocky shores in 1981 to hoist its national flag. The demarcation of the maritime boundary — and who controls the remaining islands — remains an open issue between the two South Asian neighbors, despite the disappearance of New Moore, said an official in India's foreign ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on international disputes. Bangladesh officials were not available for comment Wednesday.
Re: [scifinoir2] Survivors
There seems to be logic missing from the characters on the show. For example, you leave the house to relocate and the boy goes home. Why do you need everyone to go to the house and leave the truck unguarded? The show is on Tuesdays now. Season 2 episode 1 played last night. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: No, because I've stopped watching. It's still tagged to Saturdays in my part of the world, and I Autotune it for viewing, but invariably opt out a few minutes in for something else. Just isn't grabbing me anymore. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone notice that they changed the night the show comes on, AND have already started season 2??? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea
sent. Pardon me. Long day at the screen. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mother Nature send both parties an n-mail (nature-mail). It's *mine*, suckers! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea By NIRMALA GEORGE, Associated Press Writer Nirmala George, Associated Press Writer – Wed Mar 24, 9:29 am ET NEW DELHI – For nearly 30 years, India and Bangladesh have argued over control of a tiny rock island in the Bay of Bengal. Now rising sea levels have resolved the dispute for them: the island's gone. New Moore Island in the Sunderbans has been completely submerged, said oceanographer Sugata Hazra, a professor at Jadavpur University in Calcutta. Its disappearance has been confirmed by satellite imagery and sea patrols, he said. What these two countries could not achieve from years of talking, has been resolved by global warming, said Hazra. Scientists at the School of Oceanographic Studies at the university have noted an alarming increase in the rate at which sea levels have risen over the past decade in the Bay of Bengal. Until 2000, the sea levels rose about 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) a year, but over the last decade they have been rising about 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) annually, he said. Another nearby island, Lohachara, was submerged in 1996, forcing its inhabitants to move to the mainland, while almost half the land of Ghoramara island was underwater, he said. At least 10 other islands in the area were at risk as well, Hazra said. We will have ever larger numbers of people displaced from the Sunderbans as more island areas come under water, he said. Bangladesh, a low-lying delta nation of 150 million people, is one of the countries worst-affected by global warming. Officials estimate 18 percent of Bangladesh's coastal area will be underwater and 20 million people will be displaced if sea levels rise 1 meter (3.3 feet) by 2050 as projected by some climate models. India and Bangladesh both claimed the empty New Moore Island, which is about 3.5 kilometers (2 miles) long and 3 kilometers (1.5 miles) wide. Bangladesh referred to the island as South Talpatti. There were no permanent structures on New Moore, but India sent some paramilitary soldiers to its rocky shores in 1981 to hoist its national flag. The demarcation of the maritime boundary — and who controls the remaining islands — remains an open issue between the two South Asian neighbors, despite the disappearance of New Moore, said an official in India's foreign ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on international disputes. Bangladesh officials were not available for comment Wednesday.
Re: [scifinoir2] Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea
It was a very beautiful place. Why they couldn't share it I dunno. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: sent. Pardon me. Long day at the screen. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mother Nature send both parties an n-mail (nature-mail). It's *mine*, suckers! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea By NIRMALA GEORGE, Associated Press Writer Nirmala George, Associated Press Writer – Wed Mar 24, 9:29 am ET NEW DELHI – For nearly 30 years, India and Bangladesh have argued over control of a tiny rock island in the Bay of Bengal. Now rising sea levels have resolved the dispute for them: the island's gone. New Moore Island in the Sunderbans has been completely submerged, said oceanographer Sugata Hazra, a professor at Jadavpur University in Calcutta. Its disappearance has been confirmed by satellite imagery and sea patrols, he said. What these two countries could not achieve from years of talking, has been resolved by global warming, said Hazra. Scientists at the School of Oceanographic Studies at the university have noted an alarming increase in the rate at which sea levels have risen over the past decade in the Bay of Bengal. Until 2000, the sea levels rose about 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) a year, but over the last decade they have been rising about 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) annually, he said. Another nearby island, Lohachara, was submerged in 1996, forcing its inhabitants to move to the mainland, while almost half the land of Ghoramara island was underwater, he said. At least 10 other islands in the area were at risk as well, Hazra said. We will have ever larger numbers of people displaced from the Sunderbans as more island areas come under water, he said. Bangladesh, a low-lying delta nation of 150 million people, is one of the countries worst-affected by global warming. Officials estimate 18 percent of Bangladesh's coastal area will be underwater and 20 million people will be displaced if sea levels rise 1 meter (3.3 feet) by 2050 as projected by some climate models. India and Bangladesh both claimed the empty New Moore Island, which is about 3.5 kilometers (2 miles) long and 3 kilometers (1.5 miles) wide. Bangladesh referred to the island as South Talpatti. There were no permanent structures on New Moore, but India sent some paramilitary soldiers to its rocky shores in 1981 to hoist its national flag. The demarcation of the maritime boundary — and who controls the remaining islands — remains an open issue between the two South Asian neighbors, despite the disappearance of New Moore, said an official in India's foreign ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on international disputes. Bangladesh officials were not available for comment Wednesday. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Kurosawa Marathon Running on TCM - Last Night!
Great minds, rave! [?][?] On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Ha-ha, I hear you! - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:39:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Kurosawa Marathon Running on TCM - Last Night! Just filled two holes in my cinematic cultural literacy. Currently taping Yojimbo. Funny thing: I'm watching Seven Samurai and whenever the old village elder came toddling out bent over his cane I had to resist the urge to shout out Yoda! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They just finished showing Roshoman and Seven Samurai is playing now, to be followed by Yojimbo - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2010 8:21:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Kurosawa Marathon Running on TCM Now! To celebrate the upcoming 100th birthday of the late famed director Akira Kurosawa, Turner Classic Movies is running a Kurosawa marathon for the next three Tuesdays in March. Starting at 8 pm EST tonight, it kicks off with Ikiru, the story of a bureaucrat who finally decides to try living once he's been diagnosed with a fatal disease. That's followed by Throne of Blood, then The Hidden Fortress (which is said to be a major inspiration for Star Wars), and two other movies. The marathon's running for the next twelve hours on this first block. The marathon's culmination on Tuesday, March 23 is capped off by classic films Rashomon, The Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, and Ran. For those who've seen little to none of Kurosawa's work (and I'm unfortunately among that group), this is a golden opportunity to see one of the best and most influential directors in history. You can get the full schedule at the link below. While there, I suggest taking time to click on the sidebar links for each of the films, which give really great descriptions about each. http://www.tcm.com/thismonth/article/?cid=290045mainArticleId=290029 330.gif347.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea
Mr Worf, through years of living, I've learnt one thing. Hew-mons don't share well. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: It was a very beautiful place. Why they couldn't share it I dunno. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: sent. Pardon me. Long day at the screen. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mother Nature send both parties an n-mail (nature-mail). It's *mine*, suckers! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea By NIRMALA GEORGE, Associated Press Writer Nirmala George, Associated Press Writer – Wed Mar 24, 9:29 am ET NEW DELHI – For nearly 30 years, India and Bangladesh have argued over control of a tiny rock island in the Bay of Bengal. Now rising sea levels have resolved the dispute for them: the island's gone. New Moore Island in the Sunderbans has been completely submerged, said oceanographer Sugata Hazra, a professor at Jadavpur University in Calcutta. Its disappearance has been confirmed by satellite imagery and sea patrols, he said. What these two countries could not achieve from years of talking, has been resolved by global warming, said Hazra. Scientists at the School of Oceanographic Studies at the university have noted an alarming increase in the rate at which sea levels have risen over the past decade in the Bay of Bengal. Until 2000, the sea levels rose about 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) a year, but over the last decade they have been rising about 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) annually, he said. Another nearby island, Lohachara, was submerged in 1996, forcing its inhabitants to move to the mainland, while almost half the land of Ghoramara island was underwater, he said. At least 10 other islands in the area were at risk as well, Hazra said. We will have ever larger numbers of people displaced from the Sunderbans as more island areas come under water, he said. Bangladesh, a low-lying delta nation of 150 million people, is one of the countries worst-affected by global warming. Officials estimate 18 percent of Bangladesh's coastal area will be underwater and 20 million people will be displaced if sea levels rise 1 meter (3.3 feet) by 2050 as projected by some climate models. India and Bangladesh both claimed the empty New Moore Island, which is about 3.5 kilometers (2 miles) long and 3 kilometers (1.5 miles) wide. Bangladesh referred to the island as South Talpatti. There were no permanent structures on New Moore, but India sent some paramilitary soldiers to its rocky shores in 1981 to hoist its national flag. The demarcation of the maritime boundary — and who controls the remaining islands — remains an open issue between the two South Asian neighbors, despite the disappearance of New Moore, said an official in India's foreign ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on international disputes. Bangladesh officials were not available for comment Wednesday. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Survivors
Another reason why I've quit on it. When common sense leaves, so does Martin. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: There seems to be logic missing from the characters on the show. For example, you leave the house to relocate and the boy goes home. Why do you need everyone to go to the house and leave the truck unguarded? The show is on Tuesdays now. Season 2 episode 1 played last night. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: No, because I've stopped watching. It's still tagged to Saturdays in my part of the world, and I Autotune it for viewing, but invariably opt out a few minutes in for something else. Just isn't grabbing me anymore. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Did anyone notice that they changed the night the show comes on, AND have already started season 2??? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea
yeah! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:48:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea Mother Nature send both parties an n-mail (nature-mail). It's *mine*, suckers! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea By NIRMALA GEORGE, Associated Press Writer Nirmala George, Associated Press Writer – Wed Mar 24, 9:29 am ET NEW DELHI – For nearly 30 years, India and Bangladesh have argued over control of a tiny rock island in the Bay of Bengal . Now rising sea levels have resolved the dispute for them: the island's gone. New Moore Island in the Sunderbans has been completely submerged, said oceanographer Sugata Hazra, a professor at Jadavpur University in Calcutta . Its disappearance has been confirmed by satellite imagery and sea patrols , he said. What these two countries could not achieve from years of talking, has been resolved by global warming , said Hazra. Scientists at the School of Oceanographic Studies at the university have noted an alarming increase in the rate at which sea levels have risen over the past decade in the Bay of Bengal. Until 2000, the sea levels rose about 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) a year, but over the last decade they have been rising about 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) annually, he said. Another nearby island, Lohachara, was submerged in 1996, forcing its inhabitants to move to the mainland, while almost half the land of Ghoramara island was underwater, he said. At least 10 other islands in the area were at risk as well, Hazra said. We will have ever larger numbers of people displaced from the Sunderbans as more island areas come under water, he said. Bangladesh, a low-lying delta nation of 150 million people, is one of the countries worst-affected by global warming. Officials estimate 18 percent of Bangladesh's coastal area will be underwater and 20 million people will be displaced if sea levels rise 1 meter (3.3 feet) by 2050 as projected by some climate models . India and Bangladesh both claimed the empty New Moore Island, which is about 3.5 kilometers (2 miles) long and 3 kilometers (1.5 miles) wide. Bangladesh referred to the island as South Talpatti. There were no permanent structures on New Moore, but India sent some paramilitary soldiers to its rocky shores in 1981 to hoist its national flag . The demarcation of the maritime boundary — and who controls the remaining islands — remains an open issue between the two South Asian neighbors, despite the disappearance of New Moore, said an official in India's foreign ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on international disputes. Bangladesh officials were not available for comment Wednesday.
Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos
NOTHING for Archie vs The Punisher [?][?] And I never heard of that John Walsh/Outsiders team up. BTB- was there *supposed* to be an ad for a manga-sales website with a very loli-looking girl attached there? [?][?] On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Every so often, famous folks appear in comic books to lend some real-world veracity to the spandex-clad antics. Sometimes the cameo works and everyone has clean, kitschy fun. Other times the cameo fucks up the plot beyond all comprehension. These are some of those other times. http://www.cracked.com/article_16031_the-5-most-insane-celebrity-comic-book-cameos.html 363.gif361.gif362.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Way the Hell OT: Stars and Fans Show Support for Bullock
Oh, and five: this isn't the Digital Age, it's the Ironic Age. I'm using my own digital bullhorn to shout into your faces my opinion that other people shouldn't opine their opinions about Bullock and James, telling you I don't care about what they care about while asking you to care about my caring about their unfounded caring. (ow! Think I just got caught in some kind of philosophical feedback loop!) People all the time now decry others for their pontificating and opinionating, but it's okay when *they* do it. Irony baby, enough to make Andy Warhol weep! - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:29:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Way the Hell OT: Stars and Fans Show Support for Bullock Why do we want to read anything about the latest Hollywood scandal? This article caught my attention for four things reading it made think upon: One: Does the term no comment exist anymore? Keanu Reeves said he sent wishes for everyone, which I assume is for the cheating dope as well. He's a fairly private guy and probably doesn't want to say anything in public, but there go the mics stuck in his face again. The celebrity reporters are always asking celebs their opinions on things that frankly they probably don't know, care, or want to talk about to the media. How about just no comment to make the leeches go away? Two: the growth of social media and sophisticated Internet/telecom is inundating us with the opinions of people whose opinions really don't matter, but now they have digital bullhorns to shout them in our ears. Do I really care what some lady from Millionaire Matchmaker or Meagan McCain have to say about Jesse James? Do we really need all the bandwidth taken up by personal messages of love and support sent to stars from people who don't even know these people, or whose opinions aren't that insightful? (Do you really care if I care? yeah, i know this is a bit ironic!) Three: Holly Robinson-Peete illustrates the two above. She calls it a love story gone bad. Marrying a dude who'd shown a penchant for strippers and porn stars is a love story? Well, I guess in some quarters, but come on. This'd be like me marrying Madonna or Courtney love, and then tripping when the wife turns out to be crazy and addictive. I'm still tripping over Peete's acting like a giddy schoolgirl when John Mayer said she was fine, which was a bit over-the-top even before she realized he's a nutty bigot. Proof that not everyone should be putting their opinions out into ether all the time. Just say no comment Holly... Four: Betty White Rocks! She wants to kick James' a$$?! Now that's the best laugh i've had all week! * [Yahoo Entertainment News] http://omg.yahoo.com/news/stars-offer-messages-of-support-for-sandra-bullock/37928?nc By Alison Rosen, Yahoo! Jesse James might want to avoid showing his face in Tinseltown -- or any town -- for a while. Not only has Sandra Bullock gained the public's sympathies (if your friends are anything like ours, they're firmly on Team Sandy), but celebrities are also coming out to show their support in messages ranging from diplomatic to scathing. In the midst of the second Blind Side premiere cancellation -- neither Berlin nor London will be receiving their scheduled Sandy face time -- stars have been revealing their feelings about the turmoil surrounding Bullock, whose husband of nearly five years, Jesse James, allegedly cheated on her with a tattoo model while Bullock was filming The Blind Side. When Bullock's Speed co-star Keanu Reeves was asked if he wanted to send her well-wishes , he told a reporter,Yes, of course, I mean for everyone. Fellow Oscar winner Mo'Nique offered to lend Bullock an ear , saying, Sandra, if you need me, sugar, call me, baby... Betty White is reportedly furious at James and can't say his name without cursing. Apparently White, who co-starred with Bullock in The Proposal, wants to kick James' a--. A number of stars took to Twitter to express their feelings. An angry Patti Stanger of The Millionaire Matchmaker said, Sandra: don't need to be with a loser like Jesse while Meghan McCain was perplexed: what the hell Jesse James?!?! Holly Robinson-Peete was sad: I'm depressed abt Sandra Bullock...Was such a beautiful love story. channeling strength 2her- Maria Menounos was equally heartbroken: sandra b: my heart bleeds for you. Sending you a huge hug, lots of love and hope-there is a good man for you out there.you deserve better. The messages come in the wake of tabloid reports that Bullock and James are consulting with divorce attorneys. But Bullock's rep says these reports are false. While Bullock is taking a break from the public eye at the moment, James hasn't shirked his job responsibilities. Word has it he went back to work
[scifinoir2] Toshiba, Bill Gates-backed Terrapower plan to develo p ‘traveling wave’ nuclear reactors
Toshiba, Bill Gates-backed Terrapower plan to develop ‘traveling wave’ nuclear reactors By Andrew Nusca http://www.smartplanet.com/search/?q=Andrew+Nusca | Mar 24, 2010 | *2* Commentshttp://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-takes/toshiba-bill-gates-backed-terrapower-plan-to-develop-traveling-wave-nuclear-reactors/5379/#comments - Share - Email - Digg - Facebook - Twitter - Google - Delicious - StumbleUpon - Newsvine - LinkedIn - My Yahoo - Technorati - Reddit - Print - Recommend0 http://i.bnet.com/blogs/traveling_wave_reactor_mit_220px.jpgJapanese electronics giant *Toshiba* is in talks with a company backed by Microsoft chairman Bill Gates to jointly develop advanced nuclear reactors that can reuse their own fuel. Toshiba, the world’s No. 3 chipmaker and owner of U.S. nuclear firm * Westinghouse*, said it was in preliminary talkshttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L5SC20100323?type=technologyNewswith the Gates-backed firm *TerraPower* http://intellectualventureslab.com/?tag=terrapower to develop traveling-wave nuclear reactorshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_reactor, which are designed to use depleted uranium as fuel. Conventional light-water reactors require refueling once every several years. In contrast, TWRs can run for up to 100 yearshttp://www.technologyreview.com/energy/22114/page2/without refueling. Small TWRs could be used in emerging markets, where overcapacity can be an issue. Gates himself could invest several billion dollars of his own money in the project. Terrapower is a spin-off of *Intellectual Ventures*, a think tank created by former Microsoft chief scientist *Nathan Myhrvold*. For now, the talks with TerraPower are only that: talks. But Toshiba has been developing its own miniature nuclear reactors that can operate continuously for 30 years, and believes that the technology used in those reactors http://www.technologyreview.com/video/?vid=266 could be applied to traveling-wave reactors. One problem with TWRs: finding materials that can withstand nuclear reactions for such long periods of time. Commercializing the technology could take more than 10 years. [via Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62L5SC20100323?type=technologyNews ] *Related on SmartPlanet: * - Bill Gates on ‘innovating to zero’ carbon emissionshttp://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-takes/bill-gates-on-innovating-to-zero-carbon-emissions/4374/ - Gates says give for health care, invest in energyhttp://www.smartplanet.com/technology/blog/rethinking-healthcare/gates-says-give-for-health-care-invest-in-energy/795/?tag=content;col1 -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea
There's a lesson there. I hope they hear it. Probably not though. They seem to always been on the verge of war on a regular basis. I think it must be the British influence on their culture. I saw something recently on tv a few skirmishes happening in east India and in northern india where they are trying to regain their independence. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, through years of living, I've learnt one thing. Hew-mons don't share well. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: It was a very beautiful place. Why they couldn't share it I dunno. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: sent. Pardon me. Long day at the screen. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mother Nature send both parties an n-mail (nature-mail). It's *mine*, suckers! On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Disputed isle in Bay of Bengal disappears into sea By NIRMALA GEORGE, Associated Press Writer Nirmala George, Associated Press Writer – Wed Mar 24, 9:29 am ET NEW DELHI – For nearly 30 years, India and Bangladesh have argued over control of a tiny rock island in the Bay of Bengal. Now rising sea levels have resolved the dispute for them: the island's gone. New Moore Island in the Sunderbans has been completely submerged, said oceanographer Sugata Hazra, a professor at Jadavpur University in Calcutta. Its disappearance has been confirmed by satellite imageryand sea patrols, he said. What these two countries could not achieve from years of talking, has been resolved by global warming, said Hazra. Scientists at the School of Oceanographic Studies at the university have noted an alarming increase in the rate at which sea levels have risen over the past decade in the Bay of Bengal. Until 2000, the sea levels rose about 3 millimeters (0.12 inches) a year, but over the last decade they have been rising about 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) annually, he said. Another nearby island, Lohachara, was submerged in 1996, forcing its inhabitants to move to the mainland, while almost half the land of Ghoramara island was underwater, he said. At least 10 other islands in the area were at risk as well, Hazra said. We will have ever larger numbers of people displaced from the Sunderbans as more island areas come under water, he said. Bangladesh, a low-lying delta nation of 150 million people, is one of the countries worst-affected by global warming. Officials estimate 18 percent of Bangladesh's coastal area will be underwater and 20 million people will be displaced if sea levels rise 1 meter (3.3 feet) by 2050 as projected by some climate models. India and Bangladesh both claimed the empty New Moore Island, which is about 3.5 kilometers (2 miles) long and 3 kilometers (1.5 miles) wide. Bangladesh referred to the island as South Talpatti. There were no permanent structures on New Moore, but India sent some paramilitary soldiers to its rocky shores in 1981 to hoist its national flag. The demarcation of the maritime boundary — and who controls the remaining islands — remains an open issue between the two South Asian neighbors, despite the disappearance of New Moore, said an official in India's foreign ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on international disputes. Bangladesh officials were not available for comment Wednesday. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Tight school budgets
Frigen politicians have to cut school budgets and everything else so they can give another war [image: wtf photos videos] -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos
I actually remember reading Ali vs Superman when I was a kid. That's how you know a book has jumped the shark. :) Almost as bad as the Harlem Globetrotters on Giligan's Island. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Every so often, famous folks appear in comic books to lend some real-world veracity to the spandex-clad antics. Sometimes the cameo works and everyone has clean, kitschy fun. Other times the cameo fucks up the plot beyond all comprehension. These are some of those other times. http://www.cracked.com/article_16031_the-5-most-insane-celebrity-comic-book-cameos.html Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos
Here's a question. When Superman's dad sent him to earth, did he know that his son would have superpowers? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's stuff like that that made me celebrate The Crisis on Infinite Earths, the aftermath of which saw John Byrne's revamping of Superman. Still some of the best Superman books of the last twenty years came in the couple of years after the Crisis. I especially loved it when Byrne had Superman kill for the first and only time (He killed Zod and his cohorts, who'd come to his Earth from an alternate reality Earth. They actually came from the universe of the pre-Crisis Superman, and were thus dozens of times stronger than Byrne's Superman. He had no choice but to kill them). That ultimately led to him exiling himself to outer space for a time to work on a mental issue (he developed a split personality due to the guilt). That's where he met Mongol and the device that became the Eradicator. It was also during that period that Krypton as a planet of cold, dispassionate people was revealed. Good mature stuff! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:13:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos I actually remember reading Ali vs Superman when I was a kid. That's how you know a book has jumped the shark. :) Almost as bad as the Harlem Globetrotters on Giligan's Island. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Every so often, famous folks appear in comic books to lend some real-world veracity to the spandex-clad antics. Sometimes the cameo works and everyone has clean, kitschy fun. Other times the cameo fucks up the plot beyond all comprehension. These are some of those other times. http://www.cracked.com/article_16031_the-5-most-insane-celebrity-comic-book-cameos.html Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos
Hmm that is interesting. Sounds like a good read. I remember seeing the leaping to the top of buildings in the first issue but not much of the details. I always wondered why they never gave superman psychic or other powers. Here is another question. Why didn't superman have more technology? Wouldn't he have been trained by the crystals with all of the knowledge of krypton? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Depends on what version and who's writing the origin story. In the original premiere way back in 1936 (?), *all* Kryptonians had powers, even on their home planet. They traveled by leaping up to 800 feet at a time. At that time, the basis of their powers was that they were genetically advanced and superior to humans, and had denser, stronger bodies because Kryptonian was larger and denser than Earth, with a higher gravity. That Superman was later retconed to be said to be the Superman of Earth 1. Th Superman we grew up reading about had an odd mix of powers, based on super dense body as well as absorption of yellow sunlight. This one, to my memory, came from a Krypton where no one had superpowers because the sun was red (they somehow never got it straight with the superdense molecules). So i don't think his dad knew he'd have powers. In the movies, Jor-El states that Earth's son and lighter gravity would give Kal an advantage over humans. In the post-Crisis Superman, i don't believe Jor-El knew that the yellow sun would give Kal-El powers. He chose Earth because he felt that, though primitive, humans still had the passion and emotions that Kryptonians had lost. In this telling, Kryptonians wore full body suits that monitored and cared for their bio functions, didn't touch each other, didn't have sex (babies were conceived in the lab and then grown in artificial wombs), and didn't express affection. Jor-El wanted Clark to grow up on a planet not so sterile. Now that we have yet another Superman another the second Crisis, I'm not sure what his origin story is... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:28:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos Here's a question. When Superman's dad sent him to earth, did he know that his son would have superpowers? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's stuff like that that made me celebrate The Crisis on Infinite Earths, the aftermath of which saw John Byrne's revamping of Superman. Still some of the best Superman books of the last twenty years came in the couple of years after the Crisis. I especially loved it when Byrne had Superman kill for the first and only time (He killed Zod and his cohorts, who'd come to his Earth from an alternate reality Earth. They actually came from the universe of the pre-Crisis Superman, and were thus dozens of times stronger than Byrne's Superman. He had no choice but to kill them). That ultimately led to him exiling himself to outer space for a time to work on a mental issue (he developed a split personality due to the guilt). That's where he met Mongol and the device that became the Eradicator. It was also during that period that Krypton as a planet of cold, dispassionate people was revealed. Good mature stuff! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:13:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos I actually remember reading Ali vs Superman when I was a kid. That's how you know a book has jumped the shark. :) Almost as bad as the Harlem Globetrotters on Giligan's Island. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Every so often, famous folks appear in comic books to lend some real-world veracity to the spandex-clad antics. Sometimes the cameo works and everyone has clean, kitschy fun. Other times the cameo fucks up the plot beyond all comprehension. These are some of those other times. http://www.cracked.com/article_16031_the-5-most-insane-celebrity-comic-book-cameos.html Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos
Correction. The Superman from the '30s is Superman 2 from the Earth 2 universe. His people were simply superiour to us by nature. He didn't have psychic powers, but he was said to be a genius. The Superman of the comics from the 60s or so on (the one in the movies) and the one that's the one we know is Superman 1 from the Earth One universe. At one point, he had some kind of super hypnosis and super ventriloquism (no fooling!) powers, but no psychic ones. the only time I ever saw anything like that was in the movie Superman 2, where Clark kissed Lois and made her forget his secret identity. As for Superman's tech, again that depends on the writer and the version. In most versions he keeps all the tech in the Fortress, and doesn't have much on him at any given time. In most versions he knows how to utilize the tech. In most early (pre-movie) versions, he simply learns Kryptonian tech through years of working with it in the Fortress, aided at times by computers and robot servants. In the pre-Crisis days, he was so good he built androids to pose as him and Supergirl when he needed to have both Clark and Superman appear in the same place. The movies introduced the concept of his in utero training, as well as the training by his father's avatar in the crystalline Fortress. In the post-Crisis John Byrne comics, he was instantly given the knowledge of Krypton after a hologram of his father imparted it directly into his brain. In the first cartoons, he didn't have that instant knowledge, but had access to it through the Brainiac computer in the Fortress. In the cartoons and the post-Crisis books, one gets the impression that Clark doesn't spend a great deal of time working with the Kryptonian tech, though, as in both situations, Dr. Hamilton and John Henry Irons (Steel) seem to have a better handle on utilizing Kryptonian tech than Clark does. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:57:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos Hmm that is interesting. Sounds like a good read. I remember seeing the leaping to the top of buildings in the first issue but not much of the details. I always wondered why they never gave superman psychic or other powers. Here is another question. Why didn't superman have more technology? Wouldn't he have been trained by the crystals with all of the knowledge of krypton? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Depends on what version and who's writing the origin story. In the original premiere way back in 1936 (?), *all* Kryptonians had powers, even on their home planet. They traveled by leaping up to 800 feet at a time. At that time, the basis of their powers was that they were genetically advanced and superior to humans, and had denser, stronger bodies because Kryptonian was larger and denser than Earth, with a higher gravity. That Superman was later retconed to be said to be the Superman of Earth 1. Th Superman we grew up reading about had an odd mix of powers, based on super dense body as well as absorption of yellow sunlight. This one, to my memory, came from a Krypton where no one had superpowers because the sun was red (they somehow never got it straight with the superdense molecules). So i don't think his dad knew he'd have powers. In the movies, Jor-El states that Earth's son and lighter gravity would give Kal an advantage over humans. In the post-Crisis Superman, i don't believe Jor-El knew that the yellow sun would give Kal-El powers. He chose Earth because he felt that, though primitive, humans still had the passion and emotions that Kryptonians had lost. In this telling, Kryptonians wore full body suits that monitored and cared for their bio functions, didn't touch each other, didn't have sex (babies were conceived in the lab and then grown in artificial wombs), and didn't express affection. Jor-El wanted Clark to grow up on a planet not so sterile. Now that we have yet another Superman another the second Crisis, I'm not sure what his origin story is... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:28:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos Here's a question. When Superman's dad sent him to earth, did he know that his son would have superpowers? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's stuff like that that made me celebrate The Crisis on Infinite Earths, the aftermath of which saw John Byrne's revamping of Superman. Still some of the best Superman books of the last twenty years came in the couple of years after the Crisis. I especially loved it when Byrne had Superman
Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos
Sorry if this is long and confusing, but as the character is 80-plus years old, he's got a *lot* of different stories. I can recall at least five different major incarnations of Superman in the comics: One: from creation in the 30s to the 50s. Later retconned as Superman 2. The one who originally couldn't fly, had to jump everywhere, and whose powers were based on body density and inherit superpowers. Superman 1 originally was very weak compared to his successor and his own later powers. For example, this one could be hurt by something like an exploding weapon fired from a tank. Also called the Golden Age Superman, he was a member of the Justice Society. Clark Kent thought of himself as more the real person, and just wore the costume on the job. Two: the Silver Age Superman from the 60s to the 80s. Officially Superman 1, the model for the movies. This one is the godlike Superman who could push Earth out of orbit, and whose powers were a strange mix of molecular density and yellow sunlight. This is the one who used a lot of Kryptonian tech. An interesting aside, this Superman thought of himself as Kal-El, who used Clark Kent as a mask to hide his identity. This is also the superman who had major powers as Superbaby and Superboy. Three: the post-Crisis Superman of John Byrne and the cartoon from the 80s. Often called the weak superman, this one originally was much weaker, powers back closer to Superman 2 at the beginning. He could fly, but couldn't reach light speed, could only hold his breath for a couple of hours, and could lift maybe a building, not the Earth. This Superman had no super dense muscles, owing all his power to absorption of yellow sunlight. Gone were a lot of the things from the Silver Age Superman: the androids, the super cats, monkeys, and horses, all colors of Kryptonite except green. Superbaby and Superboy never existed, this version's powers developing slowly over years, not reaching full potential until adulthood (the last power he developed was flight, when he was somewhere around 16 - 18). Byrne's take on this character was that he thought of himself as Clark Kent, who used the mask of Superman to hide his identity. Clark Kent was also a very confident, successful guy, not the nerdy wimp of the old days (think Clark on Smallville). My personal fave of all the incarnations, closely followed by Superman 2. Four: The post-Infinite Crisis Superman. I don't know much about this one, not having read the books for two years now (thanks to Civil War, House of M, Secret Invasion, Siege, etc.). It appears that the writers are moving him back closer to the Silver Age Superman. His powers are going way up again (which I don't like), the various colors of Kryptonite are back, a lot of Kryptonians are back (from kandor I believe?). Clark is back to being a nerdy, wimpy guy, and it appears Superman is closer to being the real person. Not my fave version... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:57:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos Hmm that is interesting. Sounds like a good read. I remember seeing the leaping to the top of buildings in the first issue but not much of the details. I always wondered why they never gave superman psychic or other powers. Here is another question. Why didn't superman have more technology? Wouldn't he have been trained by the crystals with all of the knowledge of krypton? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Depends on what version and who's writing the origin story. In the original premiere way back in 1936 (?), *all* Kryptonians had powers, even on their home planet. They traveled by leaping up to 800 feet at a time. At that time, the basis of their powers was that they were genetically advanced and superior to humans, and had denser, stronger bodies because Kryptonian was larger and denser than Earth, with a higher gravity. That Superman was later retconed to be said to be the Superman of Earth 1. Th Superman we grew up reading about had an odd mix of powers, based on super dense body as well as absorption of yellow sunlight. This one, to my memory, came from a Krypton where no one had superpowers because the sun was red (they somehow never got it straight with the superdense molecules). So i don't think his dad knew he'd have powers. In the movies, Jor-El states that Earth's son and lighter gravity would give Kal an advantage over humans. In the post-Crisis Superman, i don't believe Jor-El knew that the yellow sun would give Kal-El powers. He chose Earth because he felt that, though primitive, humans still had the passion and emotions that Kryptonians had lost. In this telling, Kryptonians wore full body suits that monitored and cared for their bio functions, didn't
Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
I think that books will go on to exist in some form or another. People were probably thinking the same thing when books replaced scrolls. The problem that I have been worried about is that we are not really passing on antiques to the next generation. Only electronic gadgets. There really hasn't been many new painters out there. Only in digital form which will not be passed on. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
I worry about that too. By the way, I was listening to an NPR show on that recently. the guest mentioned that, when the ability to mass produce books was developed, some people decried the ease with which words could be written down, because books would destroy our ability to remember things! They actually thought the concept of people having to remember large amounts of history was better for the mind--and these were Europeans saying this! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:42:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman I think that books will go on to exist in some form or another. People were probably thinking the same thing when books replaced scrolls. The problem that I have been worried about is that we are not really passing on antiques to the next generation. Only electronic gadgets. There really hasn't been many new painters out there. Only in digital form which will not be passed on. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos
I grew up a Marvel snob. I thought the DC comic heroes were incredibly lame. I mean, come on, Superman's disguise is a pair of glasses? Aquaman's power is he talks to fishes? But I am always fascinated by how incredibly dense comic book origin stories become. I mean, jeez louise, you almost need a PhD to parse some of this stuff. (All the X-Men permutations just make my head hurt). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Sorry if this is long and confusing, but as the character is 80-plus years old, he's got a *lot* of different stories. I can recall at least five different major incarnations of Superman in the comics: One: from creation in the 30s to the 50s. Later retconned as Superman 2. The one who originally couldn't fly, had to jump everywhere, and whose powers were based on body density and inherit superpowers. Superman 1 originally was very weak compared to his successor and his own later powers. For example, this one could be hurt by something like an exploding weapon fired from a tank. Also called the Golden Age Superman, he was a member of the Justice Society. Clark Kent thought of himself as more the real person, and just wore the costume on the job. Two: the Silver Age Superman from the 60s to the 80s. Officially Superman 1, the model for the movies. This one is the godlike Superman who could push Earth out of orbit, and whose powers were a strange mix of molecular density and yellow sunlight. This is the one who used a lot of Kryptonian tech. An interesting aside, this Superman thought of himself as Kal-El, who used Clark Kent as a mask to hide his identity. This is also the superman who had major powers as Superbaby and Superboy. Three: the post-Crisis Superman of John Byrne and the cartoon from the 80s. Often called the weak superman, this one originally was much weaker, powers back closer to Superman 2 at the beginning. He could fly, but couldn't reach light speed, could only hold his breath for a couple of hours, and could lift maybe a building, not the Earth. This Superman had no super dense muscles, owing all his power to absorption of yellow sunlight. Gone were a lot of the things from the Silver Age Superman: the androids, the super cats, monkeys, and horses, all colors of Kryptonite except green. Superbaby and Superboy never existed, this version's powers developing slowly over years, not reaching full potential until adulthood (the last power he developed was flight, when he was somewhere around 16 - 18). Byrne's take on this character was that he thought of himself as Clark Kent, who used the mask of Superman to hide his identity. Clark Kent was also a very confident, successful guy, not the nerdy wimp of the old days (think Clark on Smallville). My personal fave of all the incarnations, closely followed by Superman 2. Four: The post-Infinite Crisis Superman. I don't know much about this one, not having read the books for two years now (thanks to Civil War, House of M, Secret Invasion, Siege, etc.). It appears that the writers are moving him back closer to the Silver Age Superman. His powers are going way up again (which I don't like), the various colors of Kryptonite are back, a lot of Kryptonians are back (from kandor I believe?). Clark is back to being a nerdy, wimpy guy, and it appears Superman is closer to being the real person. Not my fave version... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:57:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Five Most Insane Celebrity Comic Book cameos Hmm that is interesting. Sounds like a good read. I remember seeing the leaping to the top of buildings in the first issue but not much of the details. I always wondered why they never gave superman psychic or other powers. Here is another question. Why didn't superman have more technology? Wouldn't he have been trained by the crystals with all of the knowledge of krypton? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Depends on what version and who's writing the origin story. In the original premiere way back in 1936 (?), *all* Kryptonians had powers, even on their home planet. They traveled by leaping up to 800 feet at a time. At that time, the basis of their powers was that they were genetically advanced and superior to humans, and had denser, stronger bodies because Kryptonian was larger and denser than Earth, with a higher gravity. That Superman was later retconed to be said to be the Superman of Earth 1. Th Superman we grew up reading about had an odd mix of powers, based on super dense body as well as absorption of yellow sunlight. This one, to my memory, came from a Krypton where no one had superpowers because the sun was red (they somehow
Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
I think the problem with memorization is that it opens up the door for memory lapses and distortions. Books make things more stable. In a digital world in our current state, things are a lot more fluid. Pictures, audio, video, can all be modified, changed, distorted. Dead actors can appear in new commercials etc. In the right situation it can make figuring out the truth impossible. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I worry about that too. By the way, I was listening to an NPR show on that recently. the guest mentioned that, when the ability to mass produce books was developed, some people decried the ease with which words could be written down, because books would destroy our ability to remember things! They actually thought the concept of people having to remember large amounts of history was better for the mind--and these were Europeans saying this! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:42:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman I think that books will go on to exist in some form or another. People were probably thinking the same thing when books replaced scrolls. The problem that I have been worried about is that we are not really passing on antiques to the next generation. Only electronic gadgets. There really hasn't been many new painters out there. Only in digital form which will not be passed on. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] In America
I just finished watching Jim Sheridan's In America. I remembered when this little film got 3 Oscar nominations back in 2004 (Best Actress for Samantha Morton, Best Supporting Actor for Djimon Hounsou and Best Screenplay for Sheridan). At the time I was like WTF? because I had never heard of it (it made $25 million at the box office, which is kinda impressive because I don't know anybody who saw it). I was intrigued primarily because of Hounsou's Supporting Actor nod (like Denzel Washington's Glory character Trip, who ran for President, Hounsou didn't win). Well, I just saw it and it is a remarkable little film. Both the acting nods were well deserved and, frankly, Paddy Considine should have been nominated for Best Actor as well for he carries much of the movie. Hounsou's performance is problematic because it is the archetypal magic negro role. I won't spoil the ending for you but you all know what magical negroes do. Also, the Irish immigrant family embodied by Considine, Morton and the wonderfully guileless Bolger sisters, Sarah and Emma, seem to land in a candy-colored, magical realist New York City. Sure, times are hard and they live in a tenement, but the girls roller skate on hardwood floors, attend Catholic school and walk unmolested to an old fashioned ice cream parlor run by African immigrants. Still, the movie is full of wonderful little grace notes and is worthy of all the awards it won. ~rave!
[scifinoir2] what if: immortality
I was watching the tv show American Greed. The show was about a guy named Shalom Weiss who ripped off over $450 million from an insurance company here in the US. At his trial he was charged with 845 years for his crimes. The question that popped into my head after watching the show was what if tomorrow they develop something that allowed us to live forever. What happens to people in prison? Would they be forced to stay in jail for 1000 or 15000 years? Or even worse, the rest of eternity? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
