Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Who Are You Watching to Cover the DNC?

[Lockhart, Daryle]

OH how I wish BBC America was covering this convention. I was actually  
watching Black List on HBO last night but had the con on p-in-p so that  
when Senator Kennedy and Mrs. Obama came on I could watch live. I watched  
on CNN. As SOON as the speeches (and in the Obama's case, the after show)  
were over, I turned. I have no interest in any of the commentary that's  
coming about this convention.

I am watching this entire election at this point like I watch football. I  
support Chelsea FC, there's nobody that's going to convince me otherwise,  
least of all a writer who does not play premiership level football.

I like Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow a lot, but I can't listen to them  
during the election. Too much opinion, no interesting journalism. In my  
opinion, of course. I am very interested in world perception and impact of  
this election process. Impact on the world market. Impact of the world  
market on the process. I'm not getting any of that from the major  
networks, and the best independent coverage is on NPR.

I have to say one thing about this, and I promise I'll put the mic  
down...way to blow the best shot at legitimacy, Black media. NO coverage  
of the convention? NO exclusives last night? REALLY? TVOne is the leader  
in on the scene coverage, bringing us the DNC "After-Party". SERIOUSLY? An  
"after-party"? We WENT there with an After-Party? Disappointing. PLEASE  
someone tell me I am missing something.

Daryle


On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:19:49 -0400, B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> CNN is gag inducing. They have become Fox-lite and it's sad. Blitzer
> is a self important windbag, Anderson Cooper is becoming a troll and
> the rest is even worse.
>
> I watched MSNBC's coverage which was ok with the exception of
> Buchanan's racist babblings disguised as commentary. But Eugene
> Robinson, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman more than
> kept him in check.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> And, on an entirely serious note, I admit freely that I cried like
> a newborn during Senator Kennedy's speech.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>> --- On Mon, 8/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Who Are You Watching to Cover the
> DNC?
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:25 PM
>>
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>> We had the same experience, then. I was on CNN, went into the
> kitchen, realized Obama's sister wasn't being covered, and also,
> caught Carter's interview on PBS. That sold me. I've been
> increasingly dissatisfied with most news channels recently, populated
> as they are with large panels of analysts who have to shout over each
> other to get their five seconds' worth of TV time. PBS is
> intelligent, concise, and feels so much more relaxing. What a wonder
> not to suffer through people shouting over each other!
>>  
>>  -- Original message  --
>> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
>>
>>
>> I started with CNN on the HD TV. But when I went into the kitchen to
>> prepare my dinner, and didn't find the convention on any of the
>> network channels, I turned to PBS and stayed with PBS the rest of
> the
>> evening. No commercials, intelligent, concise commentary, and an
>> interview with Jimmy Carter, the greatest ex-president of all time,
> it
>> don't get much better than that!
>>
>> Truly enjoyed the whole Michelle Obama segment from the video about
>> her mother and father to her brother's introduction through her
>> bringing her "elegant and delightful" daughters up on stage to Obama
>> congratulating her via videotape.
>>
>> ~rave!
>>
>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote:
>> >
>> > What station are you watching to cover the Democratic National
>> Convention? As usual, I started out with CNN, but frankly that
>> station's been disappointing me recently. Maybe it started when t
>> hey
>> started hiring the likes of Pat Buchanan for equal time. Maybe it's
>> the Glenn Becks and other shrill loudmouths they brought on to
> answer
>> the call of Fox's shrill loudmouths. Maybe it's that all the anchors
>> and hosts have to pimp themselves out by saying "the best political
>> team on television" all the time; again, in homage to Fox. Or maybe
>> it's just the fact that I'm tired of the same old group of people
>> talking all the time. Whatever. I just noticed that everytime I
> turned
>> to CNN, Wolf Blitzer or Anderson Cooper or someone was yammering on
>> about polls and strategies, pulling out the fancy electronic maps
> and
>> fancy computer tricks, while in the background stuff was going on I
>> wanted to *see*. I was really upset when Obama's sister spoke and
> CNN
>> focused on Wolf Blitzer, while her voice co
>> > uld barely be heard in the background. Then Wolf threw out "the
> Best
>> Political Team on Tele

Re: [scifinoir2] Movie Reviews: Star Wars: The Clone Wars

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I am always amazed at how critics are so wrapped up in their own  
critic-ness that they forget what they are watching.

Star Wars IS a Saturday morning serial. That was the whole idea. The FANS  
turned it into something serious and philosophical. It is a saturday  
morning science-fiction series with nice effects. Just like at the end of  
the day, Dr. Who is for 8-12 year olds...of all ages. What exactly do  
people want Star Wars to BE? These critics act like someone made an  
animated sequel to "Gone With The Wind". It's STAR WARS.

I saw Clone Wars. I actually liked it a lot. I liked the original series  
of animated shorts as well, but this was pretty good too. The problem I  
had with it is my only problem with most Star Wars stories -- the new  
character. I don't really understand why we needed a new character. The  
War itself should have been enough.

To say that this picture cut corners on animation is to basically say that  
one does not understand animation. Which is fine. But that's not a flaw of  
this picture. Pixar has been allowed to get away with a multitude of sins  
by critics simply because they use bright colors. Clone Wars was done  
remarkably well. Great design based on worlds we are all familiar with.  
Nice stylized illustration of the main characters. The one thing critics  
need to be honest about is that if you have no interest in Star Wars, you  
will not like this picture. If you  do, you'll like this




Daryle




On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:47:50 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Movie Reviews: Star Wars: The Clone Wars
>
>
> http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0551746/
>
>
> 15 August 2008 10:36 AM, PDT
>
> http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI1MDIwMTczOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTI4MD
> E3MQ@@._V1._SY90_.jpg
>
> With each new release of a Star    
> Wars
> movie, the reviews grow harsher. The animated Star Wars: The Clone Wars
>   is being shot down by critics as  
> if
> it were a target in a video game -- with which it is being compared.  
> Roger
> Ebert   in the Chicago Sun-Times  
> says
> that producer George Lucas   has
> reduced the franchise "to the level of Saturday-morning animation." It  
> is,
> he writes, "a deadening film that cuts corners on its animation and  
> slumbers
> through a plot that (a) makes us feel like we've seen it all before, and  
> (b)
> makes us wish we hadn't." Joe Neumaier in the New York Daily News regards
> the film as "the latest indignity" to Star Wars
>   fans. Linda Barnard in the  
> Toronto
> Star comments that Lucas   has  
> "whored
> out the much-loved Star Wars    
> saga."
> And while some critics suggest that small children may enjoy the film,  
> Jason
> Anderson in the Toronto Globe & Mail warns, "parents may be perturbed by  
> the
> film's relentless violence." But Nathan Lee actually gives the movie a
> left-handed compliment in the New York Times, writing that it "comes as
> something of a surprise: it isn't the most painful movie of the year!"
> Likewise Roger Moore in the Orlando Sentinel writes that it is "actually
> better than expected." And writing in the Los Angeles Times, Michael  
> Ordoña
> grants that "there's knockout animation, facsimiles of popular characters
> and plenty of action. But anyone older than 8 with the majority of brain
> functions intact will have a bad feeling about this."
>
>



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"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking as we used  
when we created them." -- Albert Einstein



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Re: [scifinoir2] Traveling Faster Than the Speed of Light Possible ?

[Lockhart, Daryle]

You are correct. This is warp field theory, almost to the letter!


Thank you  for pointing it out -- and being correct!

Daryle

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:21:39 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> IMO, Alcubierre is the answer. I've got about thirty of his papers on  
> the subject, tucked away on thumb drives.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
> --- On Tue, 8/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Traveling Faster Than the Speed of Light  
> Possible ?
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 10:37 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Simple. "all" you have to do is manipulate spacetime and the tenth  
> dimension?!  Funny! Reminds me of how, when I was in the second grade, i  
> designed a transporter. I had a whole diagram drawn out: a beam emitter  
> to turn matter into energy, a radar dish to transmit the energy stream.  
> Drew the whole schematic on several sheets of notebook paper. I called a  
> friend of mine excitedly and told him I'd solved the Star Trek  
> transporter problem.  " All I need to do", I said "Is figure out the  
> middle sectin of my drawing how to turn matter to energy. Then I'm done!"
>  
> Isn't the description of this basically the same concept of Star Trek's  
> warp drive? That involves the concept of warping spacetime, surrounding  
> the ship in a bubble of subspace, which I guess is a lower dimension,  
> not a higher one. But my understanding of the warp drive concept is the  
> same thng: that spacetime moves faster than light, but the ship itself,  
> inside the bubble of the changing fabrics, doesn't move faster than c,  
> and therefore violates no laws...
>  
>  -- Original message  --
> From: "sincere1906" 
>
>
> Traveling Faster Than the Speed of Light: Two Baylor Physicists Have
> a New Idea That Could Make It Happen
>
> Aug. 11, 2008
> by Matt Pene
>
> http://www.baylor. edu/pr/news. php?action= story&story= 52090
>
> Two Baylor University scientists have come up with a new method to
> cause a spaceship to effectively travel faster than the speed of
> light, without breaking the laws of physics.
>
> Dr. Gerald Cleaver, associate professor of physics at Baylor, and
> Richard Obousy, a Baylor graduate student, theorize that by
> manipulating the extra spatial dimensions of string theory around a
> spaceship with an extremely large amount of energy, it would create
> a "bubble" that could cause the ship to travel faster than the speed
> of light. To create this bubble, the Baylor physicists believe
> manipulating the 10th spatial dimension would alter the dar
> k energy
> in three large spatial dimensions: height, width and length. Cleaver
> said positive dark energy is currently responsible for speeding up
> the expansion rate of our universe as time moves on, just like it did
> after the Big Bang, when the universe expanded much faster than the
> speed of light for a very brief time.
>
> "Think of it like a surfer riding a wave," said Cleaver, who co-
> authored the paper with Obousy about the new method. "The ship would
> be pushed by the spatial bubble and the bubble would be traveling
> faster than the speed of light."
>
> The method is based on the Alcubierre drive, which proposes expanding
> the fabric of space behind a ship and shrinking space-time in front
> of the ship. The ship would not actually move, rather the ship would
> sit in a bubble between the expanding and shrinking space-time
> dimensions. Since space would move around the ship, the theory does
> not violate Einstein's Theory of Rela
> tivity, which states that it
> would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate a massive
> object to the speed of light.
>
> String theory suggests the universe is made up of multiple
> dimensions. Height, width and length are three dimensions, and time
> is the fourth dimension. String theorists use to believe that there
> were a total of 10 dimensions, with six other dimensions that we can
> not yet identify because of their incredibly small size. A new
> theory, called M-theory, takes string theory one step farther and
> states that the "strings" that all things are made of actually
> vibrate in an additional spatial dimensional, which is called the
> 10th dimension. It is by changing the size of this 10th spatial
> dimension that Baylor researchers believe could alter the strength of
> the dark energy in such a manner to propel a ship faster than the
> speed of light.
>
> The Baylor physicists estimate that the amount of energy needed to
>
> influence the extra dimension is equivalent to the entire mass of
> Jupiter being converted into pure energy for a ship measuring roughly
> 10 meters by 10 meters by 10 meters.
>
> "That is an enormous amount of energy," Cleaver said. "We are still a
> very long ways off before we could create something to harness that
> type of energy."
>
> The paper appears in

Re: [scifinoir2] CSI Eyeing Fishburne to Replace Peterson

[Lockhart, Daryle]

And I will now watch this show for the first time since Aisha Tyler was on.


Daryle

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:38:23 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Film vet Laurence
>    
> Fishburne is
> close to signing a deal to join CBS'
>   
> CSI,
> sources tell TVGuide.com. Fishburne would fill the considerable void  
> being
> left when series front man William Petersen steps down after this  
> season's
> 10th episode.
>
> Fishburne will play a doctor/scientist who comes into the CSI as an
> outsider, and not as the team's new boss, CBS Entertainment president  
> Nina
> Tassler revealed at the TCA press tour. As a DNA expert, this new  
> character
> has identified a common profile among serial killers - and it's even in  
> his
> own genes.
>
> Petersen - who will continue on as an executive producer as well as put  
> in
> the occasional "special" appearance - is the third original cast member  
> to
> leave the show, following Jorja Fox and Gary Dourdan (each of whom will
> briefly resurface this season). - Matt Mitovich, with reporting by Craig
> Tomashoff and Mickey O'Connor
>
> http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Lauren
> ce-Fishburne-Csi/800044593
>



-- 

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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain, Obama to get the comic book treatment

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Ah so the TPB of "Civil War" finally made it over to the DC offices, I see.

By the way, IDW Publishing has some really neat books in their catalog,  
including "Star Trek: Year Four" and "Assignment Earth". They also have a  
Transformers book that  is set  in the industrial revolution era that  is  
simply  awesome.  Steampunk Transformers...what  could be better?

As for these titles...eh. I  guess if you  can give KISS a comic book  
series, why not a one off about Obama and McCain. What would be cool is if  
one of the publishers incorporated these candidates into their universes.  
Tony Stark's security briefing of Obama's staff? I'd buy that.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:00:39 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Interesting that you should post this, Brent because, as part of DC's  
> Final Night arc, there's a storyline involving threatened assassinations  
> of presidential candidates, which requires that superheroes begin  
> offering Secret Service-type protection for the candidates.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, brent wodehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: brent wodehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [scifinoir2] McCain, Obama to get the comic book treatment
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 4:27 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>http://ap.google. com/article/ ALeqM5ih3xTi9_  
> dtVNpxN7xxwlD8jl vfQgD9287H9O0
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>
>
> McCain, Obama to get the comic book treatment
>
>
>
> By DAVID TWIDDY
>
>
>
> KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - It's a year of superheroes in Hollywood, with the
>
> big-budget epics of Batman, Iron Man and the Hulk, but a big-budget
>
> production out of Washington, D.C., is carving a niche in the animation
>
> trend.
>
>
>
> Presumptive nominees John McCain and Barack Obama will star this fall in
>
> their own comic books put out by IDW Publishing, a San Diego-based
>
> publisher better known for telling the stories of robots ("The
>
> Transformers" ) and vampires ("30 Days of Night").
>
>
>
> Don't expect Captain America-versus- Superman hijinks or super-villains
>
> threatening the electoral process. Trading sound bites for word balloons,
>
> the books purport to tell McCain and Obama's life stories, independently
>
> researched and illustrated by a veteran team of writers and artists.
>
>
>
> "We're not doing anything that is sensational here," said IDW special
>
> projects editor Scott Dunbier, adding that neither campaign was involved
>
> in the development of the books. "We're sticking to the facts."
>
>
>
> On Oct. 8, the books will be released in comic book shops and go on sale
>
> online and for reading on cell phones.
>
>
>
> Comic book biographies have been written before - Marvel Comics had a
>
> best-seller in 1982 with a biography of Pope John Paul II. But Dunbier
>
> said the company is breaking new ground getting out fully researched
>
> comics on two candidates before Election Day.
>
>
>
> Dunbier said the nontraditional style of storytelling and visuals in
>
> comics may reach some voters more effectively than other types of media
>
> can.
>
>
>
> "We're not in the business of doing textbooks, but I think comic books
>
> really do have the great potential to inform and teach and do more than
>
> just standard superhero comics," he said.
>
>
>
> Customers can pre-order the books over the Internet through IDW, which
>
> also will sell them through cell phones with the help of Kansas  
> City-based
>
> uClick, the digital arm of newspaper feature distributor Universal Press
>
> Syndicate.
>
>
>
> uClick already sells a service allowing customers to view comics over
>
> their phones but the presidential comics will be part of a push to begin
>
> allowing customers to order whole books over their phone, said Jeff
>
> Webber, vice president of product development.
>
>
>
> "We'll be looking at how many people download to phones versus read them
>
> in print, which IDW should find interesting, as well as which (book) gets
>
> downloaded the most," Webber said. "This is a great opportunity to show
>
> people that there are comics on the phone."
>
>
>
> The McCain book, with art by Stephen Thompson, is being written by Andy
>
> Helfer, a veteran comic-book author who helped develop the books that
>
> later became the movies "Road to Perdition" and "A History of Violence."
>
> He also has written comic-book biographies of Ronald Reagan and Malcolm  
> X.
>
>
>
> Obama's biography is being written by novelist Jeff Mariotte, who has  
> also
>
> done comics on Superman, Spider-Man and Star Trek. Tom Morgan is doing  
> the
>
> art.
>
>
>
> J. Scott Campbell did both covers; each features its candidate in the
>
> classic superhero pose of squared shoulders and fists on hips with an
>
> American flag in the background.
>
>
>
> Campbell said it was probably inevitable that the covers are already
>
> generating controversy on the Internet as supporters of the two  
> candidates
>
> look for signs of 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "X-Files" Past its Prime?

[Lockhart, Daryle]

About 18 months ago, our very own Keith inspired me to start collecting my  
thoughts in a particular direction for possible future publication. The  
following is from that collection"

"If you showed season 4 of (the new) Dr. Who to someone in the year 1981,  
they would have nightmares. Not just because of the fact that the show now  
has an actual effects budget, or that there are Black people on the show,  
but because some of the ideas being introduced are just plain terrifying  
-- unless you've seen things like space shuttles disintegrating, 9/11, and  
"Shock & Awe". Now -- look at us. Violence, sex, sweat, racism... we're  
immune to it as a society! No wonder "Enterprise" wasn't as big a hit as  
"TNG" and "DS9", We don't want to know how the watch works...we just  want  
to know what time it is. (And can you please tell us the time in the voice  
of a woman with some sort of accent? Hologram, if you've got it. Thank  
you.) The future has become everything we wanted it to be...and now we are  
all bored out of our minds."


What will it take to make compelling science and speculative fiction in a  
society where billionaires build spaceships and there are earthquakes and  
floods every year?

Storytelling.

People watch(ed) X-Files for reality cues. We want(ed) to feel included.  
But the problem is...Mulder was right. And the show never challenged us to  
DO anything about it, just to debate whether or not what was happening and  
what was to come was actually real. Great thing about Star Trek is(was)  
that it chanllenged the viewer to make the future happen in a way that is  
cool and inclusive. Scaring people never gets anything done...unless what  
you want done is for people to stop. You can't get people to stop  
consuming fossil fuels when the leading industry in the country with the  
biggest  problem is AUTOMOTIVE. You can't get people to think for  
themselves and challenge authority on a show that will be right back --  
after this commercial break.


Enter -- the internet. X Files isn't past its prime -- it's just playing  
with old media.  X -Files should have been a web based series by 2002.



On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:55:07 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wishful, wistful thing more likely.  I want to believe.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:11 AM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "X-Files" Past its Prime?
>
> Well said. That's an interesting point , a very interesting point. Are
> people just complacent because they know no better, they've been  
> bamboozled,
> and someone with the proper words and voice can wake them up?
>
>  I just don't know. I remember even my conservative friends being more  
> vocal
> about abuses back in the day, when liberals and conservatives were  
> worried
> about many of the topics we discuss, topics "X-Files" covered. Now, news
> reports about wiretapping, Cheney clearly lying about the reasons for the
> Iraq invasion, trillions potentially wasted on Iraq, global warming,  
> banking
> malfeasance--I just don't see or hear the average Joe being as upset. It
> really does seem as if people have learned to accept--or ignore--things  
> they
> were worried about back then. And I do think the younger generations,  
> having
> grown up with the new definitions of privacy, seem less inclined to be
> worried about things like invasion of privacy and the dangers of tech  
> than
> us. It seems to me that even when people poll that they don't trust the
> government, their true words and deeds seem more focused on blaming easy
> targets for the world's woes, like illegal immigrants, lazy citizens of
> color, homosexuals, libe
>  rals,
> etc.
>
> I hope you're right, that someone just needs to wake up the masses. I  
> really
> hope they're just sleeping, not complicit.
>
>
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tagging of pets is mandatory. It is a part of a program to ultimately tag
> us. The head of the DHS, who was on the board of the tagging company, was
> advocating a tagging program for us until people got sick from it and his
> conflict of interest was disclosed. We do not seem as paranoid, because
> (CONSPIRACY THEORIST ALERT) Cheney and company decided that "we need a
> Pearl Harbor like event to get more control" and because media has
> consolidated more and there are only four major news outlets all run by
> people with strong gov't ties. The Pearl Harbor like event was 911. Many
> feel they were complacent, others feel they facilitated it, and a few  
> thing
> they orchestrated it. There is a lot of hard evidence that they either  
> were
> at least complacent or that the group of them are retarded. If you ever
> wondered how Germans could have let Nazi Germany happen, just take a hard
> look at Pos

Re: [scifinoir2] Alicia Keys To Sing James Bond Song

[Lockhart, Daryle]

...witness the end of the Amy Winehouse story. Amy and Mark Ronson were  
supposed to have this gig. This is a great career move for Alica Keys.  
This is one of the most anticipated Bond movies in years.


On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:53:10 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> By Garth Franklin Tuesday, July 29th 2008 2:45pm
>
> image Alicia Keys and Jack White (of The White Stripes fame) will sing  
> the
> theme song for the next James Bond movie "Quantum Of Solace" - the first
> duet ever to do a theme in the series twenty-two film history.
>
>
> White penned and produced the song which is entitled "Another Way To Die"
> and also plays the drums on the track. The soundtrack will be released
> October 28th, while the film itself will be released in North American
> theaters on November 7th.
>
>
> The pair beat out Amy Winehouse and Leona Lewis who had previously been
> rumored as the vocalists for the theme song.
>
> http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080729j.php
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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1217360371

[Lockhart, Daryle]

That computer is in England. Essex, I believe.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:16:35 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One of the reasons I posted Dave Barry's column about things you
> learn by age 50 here is number 13:
>
> 13) There apparently exists, somewhere in Los Angeles, a computer that
> generates concepts for television sitcoms. When TV executives need a
> new concept, they turn on this computer; after sorting through
> millions of possible plot premises, it spits out, "THREE QUIRKY BUT
> ATTRACTIVE YOUNG PEOPLE LIVING IN AN APARTMENT," and the executives
> turn this concept into a show. The next time they need an idea, the
> computer spits out, "SIX QUIRKY BUT ATTRACTIVE YOUNG PEOPLE LIVING IN
> AN APARTMENT." Then the next time, it spits out, "FOUR QUIRKY BUT
> ATTRACTIVE YOUNG PEOPLE LIVING IN AN APARTMENT." And so on. We need
> to locate this computer and destroy it with hammers.
>
> We need to locate this computer and destroy it with hammers!
>
> ~rave!
>
>> From: Tracey de Morsella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:05 PM
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Albert Fields'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> CINQUE ; 'Cleo'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Kai
> Pettaway'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Kera';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Michael Gordon'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Seku Brathwaite'; 'Valery Jean'; 'Wendell Theophilus
> Smith'; 'Whitney J Evans'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: My Take - "The Dark Knight" (No spoilers)
>>
>>
>>
>> Excellent review.
>>
>> It is my hope that The Dark Knight and Iron Man show the brainless
> suits in Hollyweird that good intelligent scripts and acting can be
> used in comic book filmmaking and yield massive profits.  I hope the
> dark knight and iron man are Fantastic Four, Electra, Tom Raider
> Killers.  Meaning:  I hope they start aiming for the top and stop
> avoiding dark, complex plots when it comes to Comic hero filming
> making.
>>
>> I'm not holding my breath
>>
>> From: Keith Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:30 PM
>> To: Aaron Zinnerman; Rod White; Tyreace Thompson; Robert Rambo;
> Barbara Dodd; Darivia Brown; Bryan Ballew; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Kerrance Wright'; 'Fred Williams'; 'Courtney
> Sullivan'; 'Kimberly Luft'; 'Tyrone Byrd'; 'don polite';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Aaron Holbert'; 'Clayton Harrison'; 'don
> polite'; 'Harvey George'; 'Kenny Cash'; 'Rodney Brown';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Holy Infinite Triumvirate'; 'Wes'
>> Cc: CINQUE ; 'Tracey de Morsella'; 'Gabriel, Dexter'; 'JohnScott
> Lucas'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: My Take - "The Dark Knight" (No spoilers)
>>
>> My quick take:  Like any True Believer (that's Marvel speak for a
> real fan for the unitiated) I often get a bit annoyed at those who
> see comics, scifi, and animation as silly stuff that's the domain of
> geeks and nerds. People who see in superheroes nothing but the "Wham!
> Bang!" of the 60s camp "Batman". I hate having to even discss whether
> comics deal with "real" life. I've seen drama in a comic as powerful
> as that in some of the better TV shows, learned as much about human
> nature from guys whocan fly as from Shakespeare.  But to dance with
> that devil this one time, I will say it: this is a "real" movie, not
> just a comic book one. "The Dark Knight" is a well written,
> intricately plotted movie,  full of amazing action, fine acting,
> stunning scenes and photograpy, and a penetrating look at the nature
> of redemption, worth, and madness. Oh yeah--and a guy named Joker is
> as crazy as you've heard. A must-see movie.
>>
>>
>> My full take: Wow.
>>
>> That's all I could say when the last scene of "The Dark Knight" had
> flashed across the screen, emotions spinning in my head like bright
> lights behind my eyeballs, leaving me dizzy with excitement and
> stunned at the same time.
>>
>> Building and expanding on the themes started in "Batman Begins",
> director Christopher Nolan's film will leave viewers drained but
> satisfied. From beginning to end, this is a sharp, exciting movie
>>
>> Things kicks off in high gear, as a band of masked gangsters pulls
> off a daring robbery of a mob-owned bank.  Their leader is
> called "the Clown", who later reveals himself at a meeting of major
> crime bosses as the Joker (Heath Ledger, who's as good as you've
> heard).
>>
>> A shuffling, disheveled, medium sized man, Joker walks slightly
> bent over, as if he were hurting or deformed in some way. He's
> completely unimpressive physically, but impossible to ignore given
> his greasy greenish hair, strange clothing, and twisted frightening
> clown makeup, which only accentuates the ghastly scar that is his
> mouth. Joker plans to rule crime in Gotham.  Things used to be
> better, he tells the bosses, before the Bat had them running scared.
> He can fix the problem by raining terror on the city and killing
> Batman.
>>
>> "This 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: My Take - "The Dark Knight" (spoilers)

[Lockhart, Daryle]

So now that I've seen everything but Watchmen (which I'm personally more  
excited about than Batman), I can objectively speak on this.

"The Dark Knight" was a gallon of Gatorade in the desert. It is simply not  
that great a picture. Spider-Man 2 was so much better than this movie I  
have lost count of the ways. The draw of this picture is the Joker. The  
most disappointing part of this picture was The Joker. Please hear me out.  
Heath Ledger did the dangon thing. He became the Joker. But the problem is  
that he fully became a 2 dimensional cardboard standup. I know no more  
about the Joker now than I did when Cesar Romero played him. This was just  
a better suit. Yes he was violent. But his jokes were horrible. He wasn't  
really that  scary. He was just randomly crazy with no backstory.

I do have to highly applaud this movie for finally ending. It may have  
ended an hour late, but it ended with a very clear period. No need for a  
third, everybody can walk away from this franchise satisfied with work  
well done. Now Christian Bale can go do other work and come back for the  
Kingdom Come movie or DK2.

Daryle


On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:49:42 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks. I love your stuff, so that's high praise. It took me a week to  
> think about it. I'm okay with this review, but less satisfied the more I  
> read it. Think I'll rework, reduce the summary and talk more about some  
> concrete stuff. So many things in there just screamed at me: the meeting  
> between Batman, Gordon and Dent where all actors are serious and  
> bringing their "A" game, as though a man in a bat suit discussig a Joker  
> were normal...the sweeping cityscapes and the way the camera swooped  
> down amongst Gotham (I hear the iMax versin is awesome)...the amazing  
> nightime events in Hong Kong and how that was shot...the wannabe Batman  
> imitators... the music that always gets me going.
> Yep, gotta redo this one, but thanks again for the compliment.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Great review! I am glad you took the time to absorb and reflect
> before you wrote it.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> My quick take: Like any True Believer (that's Marvel speak for a
> real fan for the unitiated) I often get a bit annoyed at those who see
> comics, scifi, and animation as silly stuff that's the domain of geeks
> and nerds. People who see in superheroes nothing but the "Wham! Bang!"
> of the 60s camp "Batman". I hate having to even discss whether comics
> deal with "real" life. I've seen drama in a comic as powerful as that
> in some of the better TV shows, learned as much about human nature
> from guys whocan fly as from Shakespeare. But to dance with that
> devil this one time, I will say it: this is a "real" movie, not just a
> comic book one. "The Dark Knight" is a well written, intricately
> plotted movie, full of amazing action, fine acting, stunning scenes
> and photograpy, and a penetrating look at the nature of redemption,
> worth, and madness. Oh yeah--and a guy named Joker is as crazy as
> you've heard. A must-see movie.
>>
>>
>> My full take: Wow.
>>
>> That's all I could say when the last scene of "The Dark Knight" had
> flashed across the screen, emotions spinning in my head like bright
> lights behind my eyeballs, leaving me dizzy with excitement and
> stunned at the same time.
>>
>> Building and expanding on the themes started in "Batman Begins",
> director Christopher Nolan's film will leave viewers drained but
> satisfied. From beginning to end, this is a sharp, exciting movie
>>
>> Things kicks off in high gear, as a band of masked gangsters pulls
> off a daring robbery of a mob-owned bank. Their leader is called "the
> Clown", who later reveals himself at a meeting of major crime bosses
> as the Joker (Heath Ledger, who's as good as you've heard).
>>
>> A shuffling, disheveled, medium sized man, Joker walks slightly bent
> over, as if he were hurting or deformed in some way. He's completely
> unimpressive physically, but impossible to ignore given his greasy
> greenish hair, strange clothing, and twisted frightening clown makeup,
> which only accentuates the ghastly scar that is his mouth. Joker plans
> to rule crime in Gotham. Things used to be better, he tells the
> bosses, before the Bat had them running scared. He can fix the problem
> by raining terror on the city and killing Batman.
>>
>> "This city needs a new class of criminal", he says at one point,
> "and I'm going to give it to them".
>>
>> All he requires in payment is—complete loyalty.
>>
>> With his lunatic appearance, wheedling, lisping voice, and tendency
> to fits of manic laughter, the Joker doesn't exactly impress the
> bosses. But after a few gruesome examples (parents take note, this is
> a violent flick) of what happens to those who cross him, they decide
> to let Joker give it a try. Soon Joker's inc

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What you need to know about WATCHMEN

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I love Watchmen and really hope that it does reasonably well so that  
graphic novels of that direction get turned into movies. Oh, who am I  
kidding, I  just want an "Authority" movie and I think it will only happen  
if people go see "Watchmen".

Daryle


On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:11:37 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am a big Alan Moore fan ("From Hell," "V for Vendetta," "League of
> Extraordinary Gentlemen") but I, too, have never read his "Watchman"
> graphic novel.  I was surprised to see it was published in 1986
> (seems long ago) and that TIME magazine rated it as one of the 100
> best novels of all time.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> The trailer shown before "The Dark Knight" really intrigued me.
> I've never read "Watchmen", but determined to do so after seeing it.
> Empire magazine (a really good British mag that focuses on film and
> scifi) recently did a spread on the movie. They detailed some of the
> changes to the characters from the comic to the movie.
>>
>> Whether the movie is good or not, i'm excited because it's all new
> to me. How often do I get to approach any kind of scifi/comic
> property where I know *nothing* about it? Don't know any characters'
> names, their powers or motivations, who the villains are, what time
> period or reality this series took place in--nothing.  How cool is it
> to discover something brand new after 30+ years of inhaling scifi and
> comics?!  To  a lesser extent, I found myself cautiously excited
> before seeing "Hancock", because that too was something complelety
> new to me. I was guessing and wondering and in the dark the whole
> film. Kewl!
>> -- Original message --
>> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/chi-watchmen-
> 0728_coverjul28,0,4606257.story
>> chicagotribune.com
>>
>> MOVIES
>>
>> What you need to know about 'Watchmen'
>>
>> By Glenn Jeffers
>>
>> Chicago Tribune reporter
>>
>> July 28, 2008
>>
>> Who watches the Watchmen?
>>
>> Soon, we will.
>>
>> At least, that's what Warner Bros. and DC Comics are counting on
> when
>> their next comic book adaptation, "Watchmen," hits theaters in
> March.
>> Many moviegoers got a sneak peek of the film before seeing " The
> Dark
>> Knight."
>>
>> Plainly defined, "Watchmen" is a 1986 graphic novel written by
> British
>> writer Alan Moore ("From Hell," "V for Vendetta") and illustrated by
>> Dave Gibbons. It is perhaps the most celebrated title in comicdom
> and
>> has been showered with accolades including a Hugo Award, science
>> fiction's highest honor. Time listed it as one of its top 100
>> English-language novels.
>>
>> "Watchmen" touched on many Reagan-era themes, including the Cold War
>> and the nuclear arms race. But, ultimately, it moved comic books
> away
>> from the kitschy, kids-only image of the '60s and '70s and proved
> the
>> genre could handle more complex, adult drama.
>>
>> Originally released as a 12-issue limited series, "Watchmen" focuses
>> on a group of retired heroes living in an alternative version of
> 1985
>> New York. When one of them, The Comedian, is murdered, the rest
>> uncover a plot that could spark a nuclear war between the United
>> States and the Soviet Union.
>>
>> Here's what you need to know to enter the "Watchmen" world.
>>
>> The Characters
>> Dr. Manhattan (a.k.a. Jon Osterman)
>>
>> Played by: Billy Crudup ("Almost Famous," "Big Fish")
>>
>> Trapped inside an intrinsic field generator during a test run,
>> scientist Jon Osterman was ripped apart by the ensuing explosion.
>> Somehow his consciousness survived, and he rebuilt himself as a
>> glowing, blue-skinned being with a dislike for pants. The only
>> super-powered hero in the Watchmen universe, Dr. Manhattan can do
> just
>> about anything, from rearranging any kind of matter to
> teleportation.
>>
>> Interesting fact: Crudup will star in the upcoming film, "Public
>> Enemies," which was filmed around the Chicago area. He'll play J.
>> Edgar Hoover, who allegedly also had issues with clothing.
>>
>> Rorschach (a.k.a. Walter Kovacs)
>>
>> Played by: Jackie Earle Haley ("Little Children")
>>
>> Wearing a black-and-white mask that resembles a Rorschach test, this
>> vigilante patrols the streets of New York. Spewing conspiracy
> theories
>> and smelling like a trash bin, Rorschach is considered more of a
>> brutal nuisance than a help. But he's the first to realize that The
>> Comedian's death is more than just a run-of-the-mill homicide.
>>
>> Interesting fact: As in the graphic novel, the inkblot pattern on
>> Rorschach's mask will change in the movie, thanks to motion-capture
>> technology and visual effects.
>>
>> The Comedian (a.k.a. Edward Blake)
>>
>> Played by: Jeffrey Dean Morgan ("P.S. I Love You")
>>
>> Amoral, misogynistic and a borderline sadist, The Comedian took
> pride
>> in doling out punishment, which he served not only to criminals, but
>> to protest

Re: [scifinoir2] Rosario is so...(was: Batman Villains & Casting Speculation)

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Right on.

I should update the group that I am no longer the President of the Thandie  
Newton appreciation society. I am a high ranking member, but no longer the  
#1. The thing about being a new Dr. Who person is that I went through the  
whole "Rose" era, and have really been liking the Donna Noble era,  but I  
have been watching the Martha Jones episodes at the same time. Why didn't  
anybody warn me about Freema? Bring her BACK!!


Daryle


On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:34:46 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> To paraphrase the old song, if liking her is wrong, Daryle, you don't  
> wanna be right.
>
> Right?
>
> "My father said, 'When in doubt, castle."- Kurt Vonnegut
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
> --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Lockhart, Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Lockhart, Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Rosario is so...(was: Batman Villains &  
> Casting Speculation)
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 10:25 AM
>
> Hmm. I never did the Roxann v. Rosario comparison. As I do it now, I  
> still
> have to side with Rosario. Maybe it's the new yawka in me...maybe it's
> her being of comic book lineage and a truer science fiction fan...maybe I
> just like HER.
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:01:01 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> She's so fine
>> (Do-lang-do-lang-do-lang)
>> Wish she were mine
>> (Do-lang-do-lang-do-lang)
>> (So fine) oh yeah
>> (She's so fine) she's so fine
>> (So fine) uh-huh
>> (She's so fine)
>> She's so fine.
>>
>> As my pappy used to say, "there's no accounting for taste and
> ya'll
>> don't have any!"
>>
>> ~rave!
>>
>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, I'm not overly WOW'd by Rosario either...However the
> other
>> Dawson, Roxan, rings my chimes quite nicely...especially in the rare
>> really sexy outfits I've seen her in...
>>>
>>> "I am me," said the stranger, "and I work for the ones
> who pay my
>> fee...and that's not you." - The Side Street Chonicles by
>> C.W. Badie
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting
> Speculation
>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 6:54 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, Keith, you're not. When I saw her in MiB2, I was
> out-of-my-seat-
>> "WOW" (as my cousin Buford can testify to). Now, I'm not
> that moved by
>> her.
>>>
>>> "My father said, 'When in doubt, castle." -
> Kurt Vonnegut
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 7/23/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net > comcast.net> wrote:
>>> From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net 
>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting
> Speculation
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:29 PM
>>>
>>> Gawd with an awful movie Catwoman was! If someone were to tackle it,
>> I'd suggest Nolan. Pitoff (or whatever the hell that director's
> name
>> was) just saw a woman in a tight costume and took it there. Selena
>> Kyle could make for a more complex character by far, and in Nolan's
>> hands I think she'd trump Michelle Pfeiffer's rendition of the
> character.
>>>
>>> By the way, love the list for this movie, but am I the only guy who
>> just doesn't get why so many men find Rosario Dawson all that?
>>>
>>>  -- Original message  --
>>>
>>> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
>>>
>>> > Catwoman - With memories of Halle Berry's franchise-killing
> spin-off
>>>
>>> still fresh in fans' minds, don't expect Catwoman to be
> prowling
>>>
>>> around Nolan's Gotham City anytime soon.>>
>>>
>>> Why everybody always hating on CATWOMAN (the most successful female
>>>
>>> superhero comic book movie of all time)?
>>>
>>> I see the only way to rectify this is for me to make a sequel called
>>>
>>>

Re: [scifinoir2] Rosario is so...(was: Batman Villains & Casting Speculation)

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Hmm. I never did the Roxann v. Rosario comparison. As I do it now, I still  
have to side with Rosario. Maybe it's the new yawka in me...maybe it's   
her being of comic book lineage and a truer science fiction fan...maybe I  
just like HER.


On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:01:01 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> She's so fine
> (Do-lang-do-lang-do-lang)
> Wish she were mine
> (Do-lang-do-lang-do-lang)
> (So fine) oh yeah
> (She's so fine) she's so fine
> (So fine) uh-huh
> (She's so fine)
> She's so fine.
>
> As my pappy used to say, "there's no accounting for taste and ya'll
> don't have any!"
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I'm not overly WOW'd by Rosario either...However the other
> Dawson, Roxan, rings my chimes quite nicely...especially in the rare
> really sexy outfits I've seen her in...
>>
>> "I am me," said the stranger, "and I work for the ones who pay my
> fee...and that's not you." - The Side Street Chonicles by
> C.W. Badie
>>
>> --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting Speculation
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 6:54 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No, Keith, you're not. When I saw her in MiB2, I was out-of-my-seat-
> "WOW" (as my cousin Buford can testify to). Now, I'm not that moved by
> her.
>>
>> "My father said, 'When in doubt, castle." - Kurt Vonnegut
>>
>> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>> --- On Wed, 7/23/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net  comcast.net> wrote:
>> From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net 
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting Speculation
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
>> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:29 PM
>>
>> Gawd with an awful movie Catwoman was! If someone were to tackle it,
> I'd suggest Nolan. Pitoff (or whatever the hell that director's name
> was) just saw a woman in a tight costume and took it there. Selena
> Kyle could make for a more complex character by far, and in Nolan's
> hands I think she'd trump Michelle Pfeiffer's rendition of the character.
>>
>> By the way, love the list for this movie, but am I the only guy who
> just doesn't get why so many men find Rosario Dawson all that?
>>
>>  -- Original message  --
>>
>> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
>>
>> > Catwoman - With memories of Halle Berry's franchise-killing spin-off
>>
>> still fresh in fans' minds, don't expect Catwoman to be prowling
>>
>> around Nolan's Gotham City anytime soon.>>
>>
>> Why everybody always hating on CATWOMAN (the most successful female
>>
>> superhero comic book movie of all time)?
>>
>> I see the only way to rectify this is for me to make a sequel called
>>
>> CATWOMEN. No plot. Just hot women prancing about in high heels and
>>
>> catsuits. Scheduled to appear: Serena Williams, Sanaa Lathan, Rosario
>>
>> Dawson, Monica Belluci, Kerry Washington, Scarlett Johansson, Angelina
>>
>> Jolie, Kenya Moore, Melyssa Ford and, reprising the role that made her
>>
>> infamous: Halle Berry (co-starring her fabulous pregnancy breasts).
>>
>> ~rave!
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>



-- 

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking as we used  
when we created them." -- Albert Einstein



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1216951245

[Lockhart, Daryle]

The female superhero film argument is destroyed by two pictures - Kill  
Bill 1 and 2. The Bride is a superhero, just no cape. If we can accept  
Batman, we can accept Beatrice. And in both  pictures cases you  have good  
director and good script.

Daryle


On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:25:32 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree Garner wasn't the best and the woman on Angel would have been
> perfect, but with them writing it like a TV movie, they really destroyed  
> its
> chances - more than the casting.I thought Tomb Raider II was better  
> than
> Tomb Raider I, but I still think it could have been a stronger franchise  
> and
> that the idea that women super heroes can't make money has not really  
> been
> tested with a good script, director and heroine all in one.   Spidey
> definitely had too many villains and plotlines and focus on CGI and I
> thought Spidey's personality change was done poor.  What is interesting  
> is
> that Nolan did the same thing with the storylines and it worked.  He had
> five to eight villains and a romance and it worked beautifully
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:31 AM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting Speculation
>
> Second Tomb Raider wasn't the best script, but look at it again and note
> what a good *spy* movie was lurking at its core. I've said since then,  
> Jolie
> should be setup to be the female answer to Bond. Although I tire of
> overexposed actors, she's good enough for that track, but you're right,
> casting saved that movie's poor script.
> Elektra, i have a basic problem with Jen Garner (or Affleck). She's a  
> good
> actress and good with actions scenes, but I never bought her as Elektra.
> There's a basic look and bearing that Elektra has, a penetrating coldness
> hiding the woman inside, that Garner doesn't convey. She just never  
> *looked*
> like the raven-haired Greek killing beauty of the comics. There was an
> actress on Angel who had electrical powers who I thought had a more
> dangerous edge to her, and who has dark black hair. I think this was the
> same lady who was pushing Michael around on the recent season of "Prison
> Break". She or someone like her wouild have been a better choice to me.
> With Spidey 3, Nolan would have probably cut one or more villains. I'm
> curious as to how he'd have modified the fight scenes, which are just
> horrible affairs of bad CGI and quick scene cuts. Nolan is definitely  
> not a
> fan of using a bunch of CGI. Note all the scenes in The Dark Knight were  
> CGI
> could have been used, but he used the old-fashioned stuntmen and stuff.
>
> Lord I miss the old days when wire work, plastic models, and brave  
> stuntmen
> were used more than bad CGI
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Electra could have been a hit. I'm not convinced the problem with Electra
> was casting. They dialed it in using that Fantastic Four approach to  
> Super
> Hero Movie making and it tanked after the first weekend due to word of
> mouth. In my opinion Tomb Raider suffers from the same scripting problem,
> but casting saved them. Just imagine Electra and Tomb Raider in the hands
> of Nolan or Raimi (before Spidey Three)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:34 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting Speculatio
>
> One reason is the take done on them, they're produced by idiot men with
> videogame and music video sensibilities and abilities, who are all about
> flash over substance. They focus on the tight costumes, the sexuality,
> over-the-top fight scenes, and they throw out some trash like some kind  
> of
> Spice Girls Grrrl Power superheroine flick. Elecktra and Catwoman are
> perfect examples of how they can't see past the surface, and get no  
> talent
> hacks to create a film...
>
> I say again, see Angelina Jolie's performance in the second Tomb Raider  
> to
> see how a tough female should be portrayed.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Well, technically Elektra made back more of its budget, but I don't
> think anyone can dispute that Catwoman was a critical and commercial
> flop.
>
> Superheroine films have yet to catch the public's eye. The reasons
> for that are probably many.
>
> Justin
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:10 AM, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Catwoman - With memories of Halle Berry's franchise-killing spin-off
>> still fresh in fans' minds, don't expect Catwoman to be prowling
>> around Nolan's Gotham City anytime soon.>>
>>
>> Why everybody always hating on CATWOMAN (the most success

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting Speculation

[Lockhart, Daryle]

The real reason behind the flop of Tomb Raider 2 was that the game  
franchise was irrelevant by the time they released the movie. It would be  
like releasing a "Pitfall!" movie now. Now is the time for a HALO series  
in CGI.

I think Hollywod is about to make a huge mistake by doing  what it always  
does. Now is the time to take chances. Now is not the time for Angelina  
Jolie with a British accent and pout. Now is the time for Jolie in an  
Invisibles movie, no matter WHAT happens with "Watchmen". Studios have to  
stop  finding vehicles for her to carry and put her to WORK. One thing I  
have to give Halle Berry, at least she gave "Die Another Day" a go.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:53:04 -0400, Mike Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> The flop of Tomb Raider 2 was what cause Halle Berry's James Bonb spin
> off to get cancelled. And the reason why we won't see a Tomb Raider 3
> anytime soon. They spend $118m on TR2 and barely made a profit off the
> movie.
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:31 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Second Tomb Raider wasn't the best script, but look at it again and note
>> what a good *spy* movie was lurking at its core. I've said since then,  
>> Jolie
>> should be setup to be the female answer to Bond. Although I tire of
>> overexposed actors, she's good enough for that track, but you're right,
>> casting saved that movie's poor script.
>> Elektra, i have a basic problem with Jen Garner (or Affleck). She's a  
>> good
>> actress and good with actions scenes, but I never bought her as Elektra.
>> There's a basic look and bearing that Elektra has, a penetrating  
>> coldness
>> hiding the woman inside, that Garner doesn't convey. She just never  
>> *looked*
>> like the raven-haired Greek killing beauty of the comics. There was an
>> actress on Angel who had electrical powers who I thought had a more
>> dangerous edge to her, and who has dark black hair. I think this was the
>> same lady who was pushing Michael around on the recent season of "Prison
>> Break". She or someone like her wouild have been a better choice to me.
>> With Spidey 3, Nolan would have probably cut one or more villains. I'm
>> curious as to how he'd have modified the fight scenes, which are just
>> horrible affairs of bad CGI and quick scene cuts. Nolan is definitely  
>> not a
>> fan of using a bunch of CGI. Note all the scenes in The Dark Knight  
>> were CGI
>> could have been used, but he used the old-fashioned stuntmen and stuff.
>>
>> Lord I miss the old days when wire work, plastic models, and brave  
>> stuntmen
>> were used more than bad CGI
>>
>> -- Original message --
>> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Electra could have been a hit. I'm not convinced the problem with  
>> Electra
>> was casting. They dialed it in using that Fantastic Four approach to  
>> Super
>> Hero Movie making and it tanked after the first weekend due to word of
>> mouth. In my opinion Tomb Raider suffers from the same scripting  
>> problem,
>> but casting saved them. Just imagine Electra and Tomb Raider in the  
>> hands
>> of Nolan or Raimi (before Spidey Three)
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:34 PM
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting Speculatio
>>
>> One reason is the take done on them, they're produced by idiot men with
>> videogame and music video sensibilities and abilities, who are all about
>> flash over substance. They focus on the tight costumes, the sexuality,
>> over-the-top fight scenes, and they throw out some trash like some kind  
>> of
>> Spice Girls Grrrl Power superheroine flick. Elecktra and Catwoman are
>> perfect examples of how they can't see past the surface, and get no  
>> talent
>> hacks to create a film...
>>
>> I say again, see Angelina Jolie's performance in the second Tomb Raider  
>> to
>> see how a tough female should be portrayed.
>>
>> -- Original message --
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Well, technically Elektra made back more of its budget, but I don't
>> think anyone can dispute that Catwoman was a critical and commercial
>> flop.
>>
>> Superheroine films have yet to catch the public's eye. The reasons
>> for that are probably many.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:10 AM, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Catwoman - With memories of Halle Berry's franchise-killing spin-off
>>> still fresh in fans' minds, don't expect Catwoman to be prowling
>>> around Nolan's Gotham City anytime soon.>>
>>>
>>> Why everybody always hating on CATWOMAN (the most successful female
>>> superhero comic book movie of all time)?
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy.
>> http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>> --

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting Speculation

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Just wanna say that Jolie's British accent annoys me to no end. First time  
was interesting, but now, enough is enough. Jolie is really good as the  
exotic girl with guns, but Bond is more than a guy with toys and cars.  
Well, the Bond BOOKS anyway.


Daryle


On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:31:18 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Second Tomb Raider wasn't the best script, but look at it again and note  
> what a good *spy* movie was lurking at its core. I've said since then,  
> Jolie should be setup to be the female answer to Bond. Although I tire  
> of overexposed actors, she's good enough for that track, but you're  
> right, casting saved that movie's poor script.
> Elektra, i have a basic problem with Jen Garner (or Affleck). She's a  
> good actress and good with actions scenes, but I never bought her as  
> Elektra.  There's a basic look and bearing that Elektra has, a  
> penetrating coldness hiding the woman inside, that Garner doesn't  
> convey. She just never *looked* like the raven-haired Greek killing  
> beauty of the comics. There was an actress on Angel who had electrical  
> powers who I thought had a more dangerous edge to her, and who has dark  
> black hair. I think this was the same lady who was pushing Michael  
> around on the recent season of "Prison Break". She or someone like her  
> wouild have been a better choice to me.
> With Spidey 3, Nolan would have probably cut one or more villains. I'm  
> curious as to how he'd have modified the fight scenes, which are just  
> horrible affairs of bad CGI and quick scene cuts. Nolan is definitely  
> not a fan of using a bunch of CGI. Note all the scenes in The Dark  
> Knight were CGI could have been used, but he used the old-fashioned  
> stuntmen and stuff.
>
> Lord I miss the old days when wire work, plastic models, and brave  
> stuntmen were used more than bad CGI
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Electra could have been a hit. I'm not convinced the problem with Electra
> was casting. They dialed it in using that Fantastic Four approach to  
> Super
> Hero Movie making and it tanked after the first weekend due to word of
> mouth. In my opinion Tomb Raider suffers from the same scripting problem,
> but casting saved them. Just imagine Electra and Tomb Raider in the hands
> of Nolan or Raimi (before Spidey Three)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:34 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Batman Villains & Casting Speculatio
>
> One reason is the take done on them, they're produced by idiot men with
> videogame and music video sensibilities and abilities, who are all about
> flash over substance. They focus on the tight costumes, the sexuality,
> over-the-top fight scenes, and they throw out some trash like some kind  
> of
> Spice Girls Grrrl Power superheroine flick. Elecktra and Catwoman are
> perfect examples of how they can't see past the surface, and get no  
> talent
> hacks to create a film...
>
> I say again, see Angelina Jolie's performance in the second Tomb Raider  
> to
> see how a tough female should be portrayed.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Well, technically Elektra made back more of its budget, but I don't
> think anyone can dispute that Catwoman was a critical and commercial
> flop.
>
> Superheroine films have yet to catch the public's eye. The reasons
> for that are probably many.
>
> Justin
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:10 AM, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Catwoman - With memories of Halle Berry's franchise-killing spin-off
>> still fresh in fans' minds, don't expect Catwoman to be prowling
>> around Nolan's Gotham City anytime soon.>>
>>
>> Why everybody always hating on CATWOMAN (the most successful female
>> superhero comic book movie of all time)?
>>
>



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1216582810

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I know I would consider buying a ka-razor.

Sorry.


On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:39:34 -0400, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We're gonna get you for that on, Martin...'Cause we need some get back!
>
> “I am me,” said the stranger, “and I work for the ones who pay my  
> fee...and that's not you." - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W.  
> Badie
>
> --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Got a brand new bag? James Brown items  
> auctioned
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 6:32 AM
>
> Do they have anything to help me get on the good foot?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
> --- On Sat, 7/19/08, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Got a brand new bag? James Brown items auctioned
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 7:31 AM
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> James Brown mementoes ranging from his signature capes to a medical
>
> bracelet fetched thousands of dollars Thursday at an auction, which
>
> the soul icon's children protested.
>
>
>
> Fans and collectors packed a Christie's salesroom as more than 300
>
> lots of Brown's belongings were sold, bringing in a total of
>
> $857,688, the auction house said. Bidding rocketed past estimates for
>
> many of the items, which included some of the Godfather of Soul's
>
> furniture, musical instruments and a poem Muhammad Ali wrote for him.
>
>
>
> "Late Show with David Letterman" band leader Paul Shaffer bid $32,500
>
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> to win the medical bracelet, which went for more than 100 times its
>
> presale estimate, Christie's said. The bracelet said Brown, singer of
>
> hits such as "Papa's Got a Brand New Bag" and "I Got You (I
> Feel
>
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> Brown died of heart failure on Christmas Day 2006, at age 73. His
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> Court-appointed trustees announced in January that the singer's
>
> possessions would be auctioned, in part to pay taxes his estate owed.
>
> His former business managers tried unsuccessfully to block Thursday's
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>
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>
> Al Sharpton's radio show. "At end of the day, everything went."
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> On the auction block went the denim jumpsuit Brown wore for the 1974
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> concert preceding the "Rumble in the Jungle" boxing bout between Ali
>
> and George Foreman. The jumpsuit, embellished with studs spelling
>
> out "GFOS," for "Godfather of Soul," sold for $25,000,
> Christie's
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> Ali's typewritten poem — "King James Brown by Muhammad Ali, The
>
> World's Greatest Poet, King of all Poets, On Behalf of the People of
>
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>
>
>
> Brown was known for donning and doffing elaborate capes during his
>
> shows, and some of them were among the auction's highlights. An
>
> intricately beaded, black satin cape went for $47,500; a blue satin
>
> one embroidered with "Thy Name Is Godfather of Soul" fetched $35,000.
>
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> The buyers' names weren't released. All the prices included the
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Re: [scifinoir2] FW: More on Top Superheroes

[Lockhart, Daryle]

The GLC IS DC's biggest soap opera. One scandal after another. The  
weakness to yellow thing is EXACTLY why I am a Kyle Rayner fan. His ring  
didn't have that weakness. The first set of ION stories were great,  
including the way John mentored Kyle. (and after a while, vice versa)

Daryle

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:41:38 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wow, the GLC has more twists and turns than a soap opera. For some  
> reason I was never a huge fan of GL. I think the whole weakness to  
> yellow thing was a big turnoff for me. What a contrivance. Now that it's  
> gone that's cool, but man was the explanation lame! A creature of  
> yellow, the embodiment of fear and doubt?? Give me a break!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm not sure if that's the character;'s name, but I'm certain that he is  
> Daxamite. And yes, they did change Gardner for about an hour, making him  
> the last member of a race of shapeshifters. (Let's just call that  
> phoning in your job, comic-style...) But he's back, one of the  
> front-line commanders during the battle between the GLC and the Sinestro  
> Corps. And the backstory I remember on Gardner was that he was supposed  
> to have gotten Hal Jordan's ring, but that Jordan, during that infamous  
> test-flight-gone-wrong, basically flew between Gardner and the ring.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: More on Top Superheroes
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 11:47 AM
>
> Abin-Sur, the Lantern who gave Hal his ring, is a Daxamite? I thought  
> Abin's skin was reddish in color, and he was from a different race? I  
> didn't know he was from Daxam. Wow!
>
> Is Guy Gardner still a GL? I thought a few years back he became some  
> kind of cyborg or shape shifter or something. I know he could morph is  
> arm into a gun, for example. I thought he was Vuldoon or somethign like  
> that and gave up his Power Ring?
>
> And didn't Kyle Rayner become Ion, an incredibly powerful being?
>
> I'd be more interested in seeing a villain list of powers. Start talking  
> about guys like Darkseid, Thanos (who actually went toe-to-toe with  
> *Odin* for a while!), Graviton, Count Nefaria, Solomon Grundy, Sinestro,  
> etc., and you have some beings that could give seriously hell to some of  
> the heroes on this list.
>
>  -- Original message  --
>
> From: Martin 
>
> Keith, you mention Green lanterns, which made me think of two more  
> potentials left off. Guy Gardner and Abin Sur (?- not certain if that's  
> his name). Guy, for thsoe who've really kept up their comic-reading for  
> years, was initially introduced as comic-relief, but he's since been  
> evolved into a major-league Lantern. Abin Sur is Daxamite, possessing  
> all the powers of Superman, hampered only by a case of near-fatal  
> leadpoisoning, which his ring constantly has to compensate for in order  
> to keep him alive. Barring that, he (and Gardner as well) are both  
> candidates to be the fabled "greatest Lantern ever", which is due to eb  
> settled soon in the post-Final Crisis run.
>
> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net  comcast.net> wrote:
>
> From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net 
>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: More on Top Superheroes
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
>
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 11:20 AM
>
> You have to make several corrections to this list. For one thing  
> Franklin Richards is currently depowered, so he's out of consideration  
> for now. For another, like I said, Wanda Maximoff (the Scarlet Witch)  
> has vast reality-warping powers--enought to reshape the entire Earth  
> with a new timeline. She belongs somewhere in the top ten. The writer  
> here must not have read the recent World War Hulk we discussed, wherein  
> it appears Hulk is stronger than Sentry. Also, they say Superman is pure  
> and simply the strongest superhero that is. Depends on which incarantion  
> of Supes you're talking about. For the last twenty years hes been  
> strong, but no where near strong enough to move planets like back in the  
> day.
>
> Also, I'd move Thor up the list (and by the way, they use a picture of  
> the alternate Thor from the "Ultimate" universe). Nowadays, Thor is the  
> ruler of Asgard and in possession of the "Odinpower", so he's basically  
> darn near a cosmic-level entity. As such, I think he could take Sentry,  
> Surfer, and Hulk. And if the king of the gods Thor is allowed on the  
> list, then let's put Phoenix back on there!
>
> An interesting thing about such conversations is "potential" power  
> versus "realized" power. Many heroes have amazing powers, but are  
> sometimes vulnerable due to various emotional or other factors. For  

1215965913

[Lockhart, Daryle]

So what YOU want is a Green Lantern CORPS movie. As a Green Lantern fan,  
I'm with you. That would be great. I don't know how you market that to  
people right now.




On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:53:31 -0400, gwashin891 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm probably bucking the trend here but I don't think Hal can carry a GL  
> movie alone.   And in this age a movie needs all the help it can get to  
> succeed.  And this means getting ALL  of the fans on board.  NOT just  
> Hal's.   This this is reason why I still think the first GL movie should  
> be an ensemble piece centering on Hal, John, and Kyle.  They can bring  
> in Guy and the others in the next film (or give him a smaller part in  
> the first one).
>
>
> -GTW
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2008, at 9:11:19 AM, "Lockhart, Daryle"  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From:   "Lockhart, Daryle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:Re: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern?
> Date:   July 13, 2008 9:11:19 AM EDT
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Clearly he could do Hal Jordan. The question is -- is that what people 
> want to see? Almost an entire generation has grown up seeing John  
> Stewart 
> animated. The generation before that are divided between being Kyle and 
> Hal fans.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:01:35 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>
>> He could do Hal Jordan. Heck, he could do Guy Gardner, if he wanted. 
>> Even the monster-truck rally-loving JLI incarnation.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
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>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern?
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>>
>> Knight - has been blabbing this week about wanting to swap  
>> super-villainy
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Re: [scifinoir2] Warners, DC Plan Superhero Film Future

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Warner Brothers has had success in animated features with their DC  
characters, whereas Marvel hasn't been. Why they want to get into the live  
action game is beyond me. If anything they should develop these projects  
for TV and show them on their affiliated networks like Disney.




On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:35:31 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Warners, DC Plan Superhero Film Future
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> Drawing up a roadmap for comic book movie success.
>
>
> by Brian Linder 
>
> July 11, 2008 - It's a fact: Despite having a huge library of legendary
> comic book superheroes to draw from, DC Comics has not capitalized on  
> their
> catalogue the way Marvel has. But that could be about to change. Yes,  
> it's
> been said before, but this time DC and Warner Bros. mean business.
>
> According to Variety, the studio and publisher are holding high-level  
> talks
> right now to come up with a master plan to bring their potential  
> blockbuster
> comic properties to the big screen.
>
> Details of the "superhero summit," as the trade calls it, are being kept
> secret. The studio simply issued the following statement: "We're  
> constantly
> looking at how best to exploit the DC Comics characters and properties."
>
> To their credit, DC does have Watchmen coming to a theater near you, but
> that falls beyond the realm of their classic titles. And they've got  
> future
> film plans for Batman and Superman, but questions remain about other  
> popular
> heroes in the DC pantheon.
>
> Green Lantern is in development, as well as The Flash. Wonder Woman  
> seems to
> have stalled. We're hoping to soon hear more on the status of Green
> Arrow/Super Max. And, of course, there's the troubled Justice League  
> waiting
> in the wings.
>
> Furthermore, Shazam! is supposedly coming our way courtesy of Get Smart's
> Peter Segal. Teen Titans has been announced, but has gone mostly silent
> since last year. Remember Plastic Man? Aquaman is highly-anticipated,  
> but it
> doesn't seem to be in active development. And let's not forget about
> Supergirl, although she surely won't make an appearance until/unless  
> Warners
> gets Superman right.
>
> We'll have more on all of these super-flicks as news breaks.
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Re: [scifinoir2] starship troopers 3

[Lockhart, Daryle]

There is a pretty nice little following for these movies. Casper van Diem  
is really  in touch with his fans and is active in online social networks  
promoting himself and his projects.


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> Marian, I learned of this abomination last week, through another group  
> of mine, kindly including a YouTube trailer link. (The background noise  
> you hear is of me, gagging.)
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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> Subject: [scifinoir2] starship troopers 3
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: [scifinoir2] Downey Jr. Is Ritchie's "Sherlock"

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Guy Ritchie directing Robert Downey, Jr. is great. If They stay truer to  
the books than the movies, this could be even better.  Guy  has a way of  
telling a great dark British story so this could be the best Holmes film  
ever. I guess the only question is what role Jason Statham will play!


On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:40:17 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
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> Caught this as well somewhere yesterday. Again, can't knock the casting.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 8:51 PM
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> A reimagining of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's super sleuth, the new version
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> who is
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> also producing. This also marks the first post-"Iron Man" project that
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[Lockhart, Daryle]

Clearly he could do Hal Jordan. The question is -- is that what people  
want to see? Almost an entire generation has grown up seeing John Stewart  
animated. The generation before that are divided between being Kyle and  
Hal fans.



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> He could do Hal Jordan. Heck, he could do Guy Gardner, if he wanted.  
> Even the monster-truck rally-loving JLI incarnation.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
> --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Tracey de Morsella  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern?
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:03 AM
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> Eckhart Eyeing Green Lantern?
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> Two-face wants more superhero action.
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>
>
> by Orlando Parfitt  , IGN UK
>
>
>
> UK, July 4, 2008 - Aaron Eckhart - AKA Harvey Dent/Two-Face in The Dark
>
> Knight - has been blabbing this week about wanting to swap super-villainy
>
> for super-heroism in his next role.
>
>
>
> When asked by iFMagazine  6438>
>
> if he would be up for donning spandex in the future, he said: "Is it for  
> me?
>
> Are you nuts. I want my piece."
>
>
>
> He also had this to say about the rumours he might be in the running for
>
> Captain America: "I don't know, I'm getting older - I don't know if there
>
> are any old superheroes. " When reminded of Robert Downey Jr. in Iron  
> Man, he
>
> said "That's true, bas**rd!"
>
>
>
> Instead, its D.C.'s The Green Lantern that he's a fan of: "I've forgotten
>
> his characteristics and what he does, but I remember liking the Green
>
> Lantern a lot."
>
>
>
> No matter which character he plays, he's definitely open to making  
> another
>
> superhero adaptation after his experiences on The Dark Knight.
>
>
>
> "I would, because they're fun to do," says Eckhart. "I had fun doing this
>
> movie. I like action in general. I like to run around and be on cool
>
> motorcycles. I always get a tinge of jealousy when I see it and I'm not  
> in
>
> it. I don't know what's left. It would have to be a good script and a  
> good
>
> director."
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Re: [scifinoir2] Fw: U.S. Dominance in Space Slips

[Lockhart, Daryle]

It was a good run while it lasted!


On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:00:28 -0400, Amy Harlib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

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> U.S. Finds It's Getting Crowded Out There
> Dominance in Space Slips as Other Nations Step Up Efforts
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> By Marc Kaufman
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Wednesday, July 9, 2008; A01
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> China plans to conduct its first spacewalk in October. The European  
> Space Agency is building a roving robot to land on Mars. India recently  
> launched a record 10 satellites into space on a single rocket.
>
> Space, like Earth below, is globalizing. And as it does, America's  
> long-held superiority in exploring, exploiting and commercializing "the  
> final frontier" is slipping away, many experts believe.
>
> Although the United States remains dominant in most space-related fields  
> -- and owns half the military satellites currently orbiting Earth --  
> experts say the nation's superiority is diminishing, and many other  
> nations are expanding their civilian and commercial space capabilities  
> at a far faster pace.
>
> "We spent many tens of billions of dollars during the Apollo era to  
> purchase a commanding lead in space over all nations on Earth," said  
> NASA Administrator Michael D. Griffin, who said his agency's budget is  
> down by 20 percent in inflation-adjusted terms since 1992.
>
> "We've been living off the fruit of that purchase for 40 years and have  
> not . . . chosen to invest at a level that would preserve that  
> commanding lead."
>
> In a recent in-depth study of international space competitiveness, the  
> technology consulting firm Futron of Bethesda found that the globalizing  
> of space is unfolding more broadly and quickly than most Americans  
> realize. "Systemic and competitive forces threaten U.S. space  
> leadership," company president Joseph Fuller Jr. concluded.
>
> Six separate nations and the European Space Agency are now capable of  
> sending sophisticated satellites and spacecraft into orbit -- and more  
> are on the way. New rockets, satellites and spacecraft are being planned  
> to carry Chinese, Russian, European and Indian astronauts to the moon,  
> to turn Israel into a center for launching minuscule "nanosatellites,"  
> and to allow Japan and the Europeans to explore the solar system and  
> beyond with unmanned probes as sophisticated as NASA's.
>
> While the United States has been making incremental progress in space,  
> its global rivals have been taking the giant steps that once defined  
> NASA:
>
>
> · Following China's lead, India has announced ambitious plans for a  
> manned space program, and in November the European Union will probably  
> approve a proposal to collaborate on a manned space effort with Russia.  
> Russia will soon launch rockets from a base in South America under an  
> agreement with the European company Arianespace, whose main launch  
> facility is in Kourou, French Guiana.
>
>
> · Japan and China both have satellites circling the moon, and India and  
> Russia are also working on lunar orbiters. NASA will launch a lunar  
> reconnaissance mission this year, but many analysts believe the Chinese  
> will be the first to return astronauts to the moon.
>
>
> · The United States is largely out of the business of launching  
> satellites for other nations, something the Russians, Indians, Chinese  
> and Arianespace do regularly. Their clients include Nigeria, Singapore,  
> Brazil, Israel and others. The 17-nation European Space Agency (ESA) and  
> China are also cooperating on commercial ventures, including a rival to  
> the U.S. space-based Global Positioning System.
>
>
> · South Korea, Taiwan and Brazil have plans to quickly develop their  
> space programs and possibly become low-cost satellite launchers. South  
> Korea and Brazil are both developing homegrown rocket and  
> satellite-making capacities.
>
> This explosion in international space capabilities is recent, largely  
> taking place since the turn of the century. While the origins of Indian,  
> Chinese, Japanese, Israeli and European space efforts go back several  
> decades, their capability to pull off highly technical feats -- sending  
> humans into orbit, circling Mars and the moon with unmanned spacecraft,  
> landing on an asteroid and visiting a comet -- are all new developments.
>
> A Different Space Race
>
> In contrast to the Cold War space race between the United States and the  
> former Soviet Union, the global competition today is being driven by  
> national pride, newly earned wealth, a growing cadre of highly educated  
> men and women, and the confidence that achievements in space will bring  
> substantial soft power as well as military benefits. The planet-wide  
> eagerness to join the space-faring club is palpable.
>
> China has sent men into space twice in the past five years and plans  
> another manned mission in October. More than any other country besides  
> the United States, exper

Re: The Renaissance Period of Sci-Fi TV RE: [scifinoir2] ...and "Jeremiah" Marathon on Sci-Fi

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Whoa. I see someone has forgotten (or is it forgiven) "Malcolm & Eddie".

I have been in a few discussions where the demise of X-Files was blamed  
for the demise of Sci-Fi on TV. For me it was when Voyager jumped the  
shark. (bringing in 7 of 9)  Once Sci-Fi becomes "girl in tight space  
suit", we're usually headed for a time out. And right  now we are in time  
out.  It's going to take a BIG picture to  bring  it  back.

Personally though, I like sci-fi being underground and commercial free.

Daryle

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:51:16 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Jeremiah" made me realize that both Perry and Jamal-Warner were good  
> actors who'd grown past their hit shows' roles. I wonder: did anyone  
> else in Hollywood notice their performances, or just dismiss the show as  
> just scifi?
>
> Absolutely  I remember those days! My wife and I always go out to dinner  
> on fridays, usually home by  9 pm. It was always so cool because I could  
> come in and enjoy a full evening of scifi. Remember back when Showtime  
> was also airing "Total Recall 2070"? I enjoyed that show as well.  
> Coupled with Stargate, which was on Showtime for a while, Odyssey 5, and  
> the broadcast channels, yeah, it was indeed a renaissance.  Back then  
> there was still X-Files, Space: Above and Beyond (which, thanks to the  
> glut of scifi,  I actually didn't get to watch in first run), Xena and  
> Hercules were still going (which I often caught on Saturday afternoons  
> when resting from errands, and was great), there was still Star Trek of  
> some sort on the air, and even over on Cartoon Network, we were getting  
> Justice League and Batman Beyond.
>
> My VCR was running all the time. It was so much out, like I said, i  
> missed Space: Above and Beyond, an fell behind on shows I watched  
> casually, like Xena. But how cool was it to turn on the tube at almost  
> any time of the day or night on weekends and catch some kind of scifi,  
> fantasy, or animated show that we could enjoy?  Miss those days...
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> After I saw him on Jeremiah, I started liking Priestly and loved him on  
> Tru
> Calling. I agree with you assessment of both lead actors on the show. .
> I miss that show and Odyssey 5 as well. I never understood why Showtime
> did not keep Friday Sci-Fi and instead decide to build a second night of
> shock value shows that they are into now. With all the speculative  
> fiction
> talent out there, it is too bad that Sci-Fi has not figured out how to do
> Sci-Fi. Instead we get the most plotless night on television, scare
> tactics, ghosting hunting, wrestling and show like painkiller Jane
>
> When both Sci-Fi and Showtime had Friday Sci-Fi line-ups, and CBS was
> showing Sci-Fi late nights, I was single. I know this makes me sound like
> a total geek, but during the season, I ending up doing Fridays in, and  
> going
> out on Saturdays and Sundays. Do you remember how there were like four to
> seven Sci-Fi shows in syndication that would be come on throughout the
> weekend in most markets back in those days? To add to that, Fox was  
> working
> to sustain a Sci-Fi Friday as well. Meanwhile UPN, TNT and the other
> networks were trying out Sci-Fi shows and superhero comic shows where
> everywhere. Those were truly the renaissance days of Sci-Fi viewing.
> Sigh
>
> What I do not understand is why Sci-Fi movies make the most money in
> Hollywood, yet Sci-Fi shows do so poorly on TV
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:23 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] ...and "Jeremiah" Marathon on SciFi
>
> Yeah, I watched. The ep with Jason Priestley is one I hadn't seen before,
> and was good. Like a lot of actors who were considered good luckin, or
> nearly "pretty boys", Priestly plays a good psycho.
> Watching "Jeremiah" is always an experience for me. It was an engaging  
> show.
> I'm always struck at the acting ability of both Luke Perry and Malcolm
> Jamal-Warner. They each have real screen presence, bringing maturity and
> gravitas to their roles. I admit to being surprised at how confident and
> even noble both characters came off. Amazing that another  
> post-apocalyptic
> scifi show would showcase the acting skills of veterans of a teen drama  
> and
> a family sitcom.
> I miss the show, miss the whole mystery behind Valhalla, the military men
> still left, the dude (was that a computer?) who was manuevering for
> conquest. A real shame that show is gone
>
> and yeah, it and Odyssey 5 and others really make me miss those heady  
> days
> when both SciFi and Showtime gave us a whole lot of scifi shows on the
> weekends.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Keith I missed this message earlier 

Re: The Renaissance Period of Sci-Fi TV RE: [scifinoir2] ...and "Jeremiah" Marathon on Sci-Fi

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Showtime is a horrible place for Sci-Fi shows, because nobody has  
Showtime. People get HBO because it's HBO, you know the name, it has all  
your favorite things, and so that's what their premium channel is.  
Showtime doesn't stand out enough, and now, post-Dexter, you can just hang  
out for a year and get the Showtime shows on CBS.

Next year Oprah and Tyler Perry are getting cable networks.  I sort of  
wish someone would do a deal with Speilberg or someone like that, because  
then there would be an actual network for science fiction programming.


On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:38:41 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After I saw him on Jeremiah, I started liking Priestly and loved him on  
> Tru
> Calling.  I agree with you assessment of both lead actors on the show.  .
> I miss that show and Odyssey 5 as well.   I never understood why Showtime
> did not keep Friday Sci-Fi and instead decide to  build a second night of
> shock value shows that they are into now.  With all the speculative  
> fiction
> talent out there, it is too bad that Sci-Fi has not figured out how to do
> Sci-Fi.  Instead we get the most plotless night on television, scare
> tactics, ghosting hunting, wrestling and show like painkiller Jane
>
> When both Sci-Fi and Showtime had Friday Sci-Fi line-ups, and CBS was
> showing Sci-Fi late nights,  I was single.  I know this makes me sound  
> like
> a total geek, but during the season, I ending up doing Fridays in, and  
> going
> out on Saturdays and Sundays.  Do you remember how there were like four  
> to
> seven Sci-Fi shows in syndication that would be come on throughout the
> weekend in most markets back in those days?  To add to that, Fox was  
> working
> to sustain a Sci-Fi Friday as well.  Meanwhile UPN, TNT and the other
> networks were trying out Sci-Fi shows and superhero comic shows where
> everywhere.  Those were truly the renaissance days of Sci-Fi viewing.
> Sigh
>
> What I do not understand is why Sci-Fi movies make the most money in
> Hollywood, yet Sci-Fi shows do so poorly on TV
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:23 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] ...and "Jeremiah" Marathon on SciFi
>
> Yeah, I watched. The ep with Jason Priestley is one I hadn't seen before,
> and was good. Like a lot of actors who were considered good luckin, or
> nearly "pretty boys", Priestly plays a good psycho.
> Watching "Jeremiah" is always an experience for me. It was an engaging  
> show.
> I'm always struck at the acting ability of both Luke Perry and Malcolm
> Jamal-Warner. They each have real screen presence, bringing maturity and
> gravitas to their roles. I admit to being surprised at how confident and
> even noble both characters came off. Amazing that another  
> post-apocalyptic
> scifi show would showcase the acting skills of veterans of a teen drama  
> and
> a family sitcom.
> I miss the show, miss the whole mystery behind Valhalla, the military men
> still left, the dude (was that a computer?) who was manuevering for
> conquest. A real shame that show is gone
>
> and yeah, it and Odyssey 5 and others really make me miss those heady  
> days
> when both SciFi and Showtime gave us a whole lot of scifi shows on the
> weekends.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Keith I missed this message earlier when I posted my Jeremiah message.  
> Did
> you watch it? I also feel sad when I watch it or Odyssey 5. For a decade
> Showtime on Friday nights was the place to be if you when a sci-fi fan.
> During that time that had about eight sci-fi shows featured on Friday
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:20 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] ...and "Jeremiah" Marathon on SciFi
>
> Which show, Jeremiah or Burn Notice?
>
> -- Original message --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> In a message dated 7/10/2008 8:13:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Wow, talk about good stuff: "Burn Notice" on USA, and SciFi Channel's
> running
> a block of "Jeremiah" shows. Those are always good to revisit
>
> What was the premise of the show?
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] ...and "Jeremiah" Marathon on SciFi

[Lockhart, Daryle]

It was a science fiction show on Showtime Network. Doomed.



On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:33:05 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It seems like a good show. Why was it canceled?
>
>
>
> **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Negative Stereotypes R US (IN CLASS WITH HANCOCK)

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Okay, I have just seen this movie last night. This was hands down one of  
the best written, designed, cast, and acted superhero movies of all time.  
The only thing that would have made this better for me would be a script  
by Grant Morrison or Warren Ellis. (This would have guaranteed even MORE  
drinking, to be sure) I think that Will was the perfect choice for this  
character. I have read the reviews this morning. In my opinion, the  
negative ones have been completely off the mark. Some of the negative ones  
have been from people I totally respect, but there seems to be an age  
thing going on, which is odd. The reviews read like people who have seen  
the trailer and not the entire picture.


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Hancock was NOT an alcoholic. Hancock was NOT homeless. He was ABANDONDED.  
Left to think he was alone. He was doing things with powers with no  
knowledge of his purpose. This is a PERFECT movie to take young Black male  
children to. I have also read the criticisms of how it took a white man to  
get him to see his purpose. ALSO incorrect. Hancock and Ray needed each  
other. Ray was a washed up publicist with a dream to save the world.  
Hancock put him on track. Gave him something tangiable to focus on. I have  
also read the MANY MANY people who have issue with Hancock going to jail.  
Again, people seem to have been watching the pictures moving but not what  
was going on. Hancock going to jail was totally symolic. He was smashing  
through Los Angeles with no regard to the damage he was causing. This  
isn't Reed Richards or Bruce Wayne who can pay for this with no problem,  
this is a dude with no idea where he's from. No job. His 'fortress of  
solitude' is a trailer.

Next up, the whole 'white woman' issue. I think this is where casting was  
done particularly well. If these are two immortal people with powers, they  
have been around long before there was a United States. And so wouldn't it  
make sense that an African woman and African man would be the surviving  
ones? This isn't Uma Thurman, this is a woman born in Johannesburg. Would  
the STORY have been better if this were Nona Gaye instead of Charlize  
Theron? I'm actually not sure. I loves me some Nona, but wouldn't the  
criticism have been "Why did the Black woman have to dump him and leave  
him at the hospital like that?" Additionally, we don't know enough about  
these characters to assume that they have always been the race that they  
appear to be. I think the casting was progressive Hollywood. If we want  
two immortal Black people, we should make "Wild Seed".

It's been really disappointing that "Iron Man" has gotten deeper reviews  
and better  character analysis than "Hancock". It's probably why Black  
actors don't take/get offered roles like this often.

Daryle



On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:35:04 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> (from BlackScienceFictionandHorror listserv):
>
> IN CLASS WITH HANCOCK
>
> By Biko Agozino
>
> I have just seen the box office hit movie, Hancock, with my two
> teenage sons and their 12 year old cousin. As usual, after seeing a
> movie with the kids, we engaged in debates about the representations
> and subtle messages in the movie. I asked the young men if they
> liked the film and they all agreed that it was a great film. I asked
> them what they liked about it and they said that Will Smith was the
> greatest superhero ever. Then they asked me if I liked the movie and
> I said no that I did not. Why not? They all asked in unison.
>
> I asked the children to compare Will Smith's character with other
> super heroes played by white actors. They said that all super heroes
> have their nemeses because people are suspicious of those who have
> superhuman powers. Many people dislike Superman and Batman and
> Spiderman especially when they are slow to beat the bad guys or when
> the bad guys impersonate them and make it look like the bad things
> were being done by the superheroes. Sometimes people dislike the
> superhero because they envy the superpower or because they fear that
> he may use the same power to defeat them if they did anything
> naughty by themselves. So they were not surprised that people were
> complaining about John Hancock in the movie, it comes with being a
> superhero.
>
> I asked the young men if they knew of any superhero who was
> unemployed, or an alcoholic, or who slept rough on the streets, or
> used foul language, or tried to pinch the bum of women on the
> streets or called them bitches, or bullied children who were
> bullies, or had no girlfriend or family or went to prison just to
> learn how to say `good job', or chased another man's wife?
>
> I told them that I suspected that Hollywood used these stereotypes
> to send the wrong messages to young black men and help to continue
> leading them astray. Some young black men may see the movie and
> believe that abusing large bottles of whiskey might give them
> superpowers. These are co

Re: [scifinoir2] Latest "Hulk" may not spawn a sequel

[Lockhart, Daryle]

So what we have learned is that there are a fixed number of Hulk fans in  
the world. Got it. Doesn't matter who does the picture, only a set amount  
of people are going to  come out and see it. Okay, so now Leterrier can go  
on and make other movies? Great! Because That, after all, is what you want  
if you are a director...a chance to do a range of successful work.




On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:13:37 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080709/121559147200.html
>
> Latest "Hulk" may not spawn a sequel
>
> Wednesday July 9 1:17 AM ET
>
> It's a tale of two movies, with an oddly similar ending.
>
> Five years ago, "Hulk," the first movie based on Marvel's hulking
> green comic book character, rang up $245 million in worldwide box
> office but was widely dismissed as a commercial failure.
>
> The second attempt, "The Incredible Hulk," amped up the fun factor
> and dialed down the brooding of director Ang Lee's original but is
> unlikely to gross significantly higher than its predecessor and might
> not spawn a sequel. And it's been dubbed a success.
>
> What gives?
>
> "We're happy with the financial results, even if they (only) reach
> the first film's levels," a Marvel insider insisted. "Having a sequel
> is not the definition of success."
>
> That's fortunate, as even outpacing the first film's worldwide haul
> by 10% looks optimistic at this point, and that's not likely to stoke
> enthusiasm for a franchise follow-up anytime soon.
>
> After four weekends, the Louis Leterrier-directed "The Incredible
> Hulk" has earned $125 million, the same as what "Hulk" had pulled in
> at the same time in its run. "Hulk" finished with $132 million, and
> its successor is unlikely to do much better.
>
> Its foreign rollout is still in progress, with comics-friendly Japan
> among the territories the remake has yet to bow, but it appears
> likely that the Edward Norton starrer will struggle to reach $130
> million internationally. The first film tallied $113.2 million
> overseas.
>
> Action films tend to outperform internationally, though comic book
> adaptations can be a different matter if the fan base skews American.
> Marvel touts the Hulk comic franchise as its second most popular
> worldwide, after Spider-Man.
>
> "All we can say as a studio is that we are very pleased with the
> result," Universal domestic distribution president Nikki Rocco said.
>
> Despite the similarity of the Hulk films' theatrical runs,
> industryites suggest the lighter tone of the second film makes it
> more the vehicle to generate sequels, and some suggest the remake
> will prove a more lucrative DVD title than the Eric Bana-starring
> original. On the other hand, production costs and marketing expenses
> were steeper the second time around, totaling more than $200 million.
> The first film cost about $150 million to make.
>
> Still, the dark original so turned off the Hulk character's fanboy
> base as to require a complete reworking of its big-screen rendering
> before a film franchise could be christened.
>
> But Marvel has yet to greenlight a Hulk sequel. So other observers
> suggest the films' most important distinction lies simply in how well
> market expectations were managed in advance of their respective bows.
>
> "Hollywood is always about perception," said David Davis, managing
> partner and entertainment analyst at Arpeggio Partners in Los
> Angeles. "The first Hulk (movie) had such high expectations after the
> NBC-Universal merger and was supposed to be critical-favorite Ang
> Lee's breakout commercial blockbuster.
>
> "Then with the new Hulk film, Marvel was able to underplay the
> importance of the success after the great success of 'Iron Man' this
> summer," Davis said. "So the new one overdelivered, relative to its
> underpromise."
>
> The Marvel-produced, Paramount-distributed "Iron Man" has fetched
> more than $563 million at the worldwide box office.
>
> Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
>
>
>



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1215621949

[Lockhart, Daryle]

This movie is the winner of the "how a badly done TV series spinoff can  
ruin the memory of a great movie" award. This is actually my #2 favorite  
John Carpenter Film. (Escape From New York is my #1). Carpenter really did  
his thing up until "Memoirs of an Invisible Man", I think. I have hated  
everything he's done since then.



On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:16:47 -0400, B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ditto. I do forget that it was a John Carpenter film.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On all fronts, naught but agreement.
>>
>> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only
> angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt
> Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country"
>>
>> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [scifinoir2] I saw STARMAN this weekend
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 10:38 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently saw STARMAN again on satellite this
> weekend.  I love this
>>
>> movie.  While I am a fan of several John Carpenter movies,
> HALLOWEEN,
>>
>> ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, THE THING and BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA to
>>
>> name them all, I have always thought STARMAN was his most fully
>>
>> realized film.
>>
>>
>>
>> In fact, since STARMAN doesn't look or play like a John Carpenter
>>
>> movie, I often forget he directed it.  It looks like something from
>>
>> Steven Spielburg's early catalog, something nestled neatly between
>>
>> CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND and ET.  Made in 1984, the movie
>>
>> holds up well and doesn't look dated as it could because the
> narrative
>>
>> takes place mainly in a barren American west that has remained fixed
>>
>> and stubborn in the succeeding two and a half decades.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both Jeff Bridges and Karen Allen give excellent performances.
> Watching
>>
>> Bridge's Starman become more human as Allen's character becomes more
>>
>> wide-eyed and ethereal is wonderful.
>>
>>
>>
>> ~rave!
>>
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[Lockhart, Daryle]

h! BET hasn't released their list yet.

On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:11:49 -0400, B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What? No Black Vulcan?
>
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Whoever wrote that needs to be pimp-slapped. Seriously.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>> --- On Tue, 7/8/08, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Black Voices Top 25 Black Superheroes
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 10:20 PM
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://blackgeekdom .com/blog/
>>
>>
>>
>> (from Blackgeekdom/ blog)
>>
>>
>>
>> Black Voices Top 25 Black Superheroes (Warning!! This is really
> ignorant)
>>
>>
>>
>> July 2nd, 2008
>>
>>
>>
>> Written by: Lobo
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>> ·0 Comments
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>> Source: Blackvoices
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>>
>>
>> Have you ever read somthing that was so ignorant and derogatory,
> that
>>
>> you don't what to say or how to address it.   Well if  you haven't
>>
>> here it is.   I don't know if this is a bad attempt at humor or
> just a
>>
>> really bad list by a ignorant person.
>>
>> 1Handi-Man (Damon Wayans)
>>
>> 2Storm (Halle Berry)
>>
>> 3Panthro (Earle Hyman)
>>
>> 4D.L. Hawkins  `Heroes' (Leonard Roberts)
>>
>> 5Meteor Man (Robert Townsend)
>>
>> 6Blade (Wesley Snipes)
>>
>> 7Hancock (Will Smith)
>>
>> 8Afro Samurai (Samuel L. Jackson )
>>
>> 9Green Lantern (John Stewart)
>>
>> 10   Autobot Jazz (Transformers)
>>
>> 11   Luke Cage
>>
>> 12   Spawn
>>
>> 13   Blankman (Damon Wayans)
>>
>> 14   Mister Terrific
>>
>> 15Black Goliath
>>
>> 16   Steel (Dr. John Henry Irons)
>>
>> 17   Hong Kong Phooey (Scatman Crothers)
>>
>> 18   The Brown Hornet
>>
>> 19   Black Ranger (Zack Taylor)
>>
>> 20   The Falcon
>>
>> 21   Cyborg
>>
>> 22   Pootie Tang (Lance Crouther)
>>
>> 23   Black Panther
>>
>> 24   Morpheus
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>> 25   Frozone
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Bale Says 'No' to Boy Wonder

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Yes, I totally agree, but most people who don't really read the books just  
know Cap as a solo act. Very few even realize the Super Serum aspect to   
his origin. You could do a Captain America project and never even  
reference the War.



On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:22:18 -0400, B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Actually I think Bucky's story and Cap's guilt over his apparent
> death are central to the modern Cap mythos. The loss of Bucky was
> always on open wound in Cap's psyche. Cap actively sought out
> surrogates for Bucky time and time again.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Lockhart, Daryle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> This isn't Captain America, where you can tell the story without
> Bucky.
>> This is Batman, as in..."Batman and Robin". The PROBLEM is that
> quite
>> often Robin has been portrayed as this kiddie figure, but he is
> QUITE an
>> interesting character and contrast to Batman. One of my favorite
> Batman
>> series of books is where Robin is killed. What great writing!
> Bruce's
>> humanity comes to the surface and you have this incredibly
> vulnerable
>> humanity play with all the anger and sadness coming out. I think
> Bale is
>> way off. Nobody wanted to see another BATMAN movie yet he proved
> everybody
>> wrong by acting well. I think there should totally be a movie with
> Robin.
>>
>> Now, if they try the PENGUIN...THEN I'm with him -- chain me up.
>>
>>
>> Daryle
>>
>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:48:03 -0400, B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with Bale. Please keep Robin out of this mythos. Trying to
>> > kiddie it up by adding Robin would wreck the feel of these movies.
>> >
>> > Catwoman is a good choice for a villain but I'd rather see a scary
>> > and serious take on Two-Face. The latest trailer gives a little
>> > glimpse of Aaron Eckhart in Two Face mode and it's good.
>> >
>> > I'd love to see more Ra's Al Ghul. Maybe have Talia and the
> remnants
>> > of the League of Assassins searching Gotham for Ra's and the man
>> > who "killed" him.
>> >
>> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Street" 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> He can't dictate the direction of the Batman..cause right now
> he's
>> >> being over shadowed by Heath Ledger so the fate of Batman going
>> >> forward does not lie in having Christan Bale play Batman. Robin
> is a
>> >> necessary figure...but next movie I would like to see them really
>> > take
>> >> on Catwoman.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Martin  wrote:
>> >> > I can see his thinking somewhat.
>> >> >
>> >> > Robin, in all of the Bat-flicks to date, has been little more
>> > than comic
>> >> > relief. If a good writer were to factor in the recent changes
> in
>> > the Robin
>> >> > character from the comics, it would be another matter.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>> >> >
>> >> > --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Tracey de Morsella 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > From: Tracey de Morsella 
>> >> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Bale Says 'No' to Boy Wonder
>> >> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> >> > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 2:07 AM
>> >> >
>> >> > Bale Says 'No' to Boy Wonder
>> >> >
>> >> > Star shows little love for sidekick.
>> >> >
>> >> > by Orlando <http://movies. ign.com/email. html> Parfitt, IGN UK
>> >> >
>> >> > UK, July 3, 2008 - We've got some spurious online gossip
>> > regarding the
>> >> >
>> >> > direction of Christopher Nolan's Batman series.
>> >> >
>> >> > Apparently, Christian Bale -- who plays the caped crusader in
> the
>> > franchise
>> >> >
>> >> > -- has said: "If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films,
>> > I'll be
>> >> >
>> >> > chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work."
>> >> >
>> >> > The quote was flagged up by AintItCool and came from the New
> York
>> > Magazine,
>> >> >
>> >> > but originated on the World Entertainment News Net

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Bale Says 'No' to Boy Wonder

[Lockhart, Daryle]

This isn't Captain America, where you can tell the story without Bucky.  
This is Batman, as in..."Batman and Robin". The PROBLEM is that quite  
often Robin has been portrayed as this kiddie figure, but he is QUITE an  
interesting character and contrast to Batman. One of my favorite Batman  
series of books is where Robin is killed. What great writing! Bruce's  
humanity comes to the surface and you have this incredibly vulnerable  
humanity play with all the anger and sadness coming out. I think Bale is  
way off. Nobody wanted to see another BATMAN movie yet he proved everybody  
wrong by acting well. I think there should totally be a movie with Robin.

Now, if they try the PENGUIN...THEN I'm with him -- chain me up.


Daryle

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:48:03 -0400, B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree with Bale. Please keep Robin out of this mythos. Trying to
> kiddie it up by adding Robin would wreck the feel of these movies.
>
> Catwoman is a good choice for a villain but I'd rather see a scary
> and serious take on Two-Face. The latest trailer gives a little
> glimpse of Aaron Eckhart in Two Face mode and it's good.
>
> I'd love to see more Ra's Al Ghul. Maybe have Talia and the remnants
> of the League of Assassins searching Gotham for Ra's and the man
> who "killed" him.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> He can't dictate the direction of the Batman..cause right now he's
>> being over shadowed by Heath Ledger so the fate of Batman going
>> forward does not lie in having Christan Bale play Batman. Robin is a
>> necessary figure...but next movie I would like to see them really
> take
>> on Catwoman.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I can see his thinking somewhat.
>> >
>> > Robin, in all of the Bat-flicks to date, has been little more
> than comic
>> > relief. If a good writer were to factor in the recent changes in
> the Robin
>> > character from the comics, it would be another matter.
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> > From: Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Bale Says 'No' to Boy Wonder
>> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 2:07 AM
>> >
>> > Bale Says 'No' to Boy Wonder
>> >
>> > Star shows little love for sidekick.
>> >
>> > by Orlando  Parfitt, IGN UK
>> >
>> > UK, July 3, 2008 - We've got some spurious online gossip
> regarding the
>> >
>> > direction of Christopher Nolan's Batman series.
>> >
>> > Apparently, Christian Bale -- who plays the caped crusader in the
> franchise
>> >
>> > -- has said: "If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films,
> I'll be
>> >
>> > chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work."
>> >
>> > The quote was flagged up by AintItCool and came from the New York
> Magazine,
>> >
>> > but originated on the World Entertainment News Network.
>> >
>> > http://movies. ign.com/articles /886/886008p1. html
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [scifinoir2] Davies: It's OK If David Tennant Leaves 'Doctor Who'

[Lockhart, Daryle]

If the show survived ROSE leaving, the show will survive an 11th Doctor.

I am one of the new Doctor Who fans who only started watching with  
Eccleston, and I have to say, Tennant is one of my favorites.

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:12:56 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't either.  He is a difficult act to follow, but not impossible.  I
> really would love to see Nesbitt in the role
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Martin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:40 AM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Davies: It's OK If David Tennant Leaves 'Doctor
> Who'
>
> Contrary to what so many think, it won't be the death knell of the show  
> if
> Tennant leaves. The fans will stay. It's just a matter of the stories and
> the acting being consistent and strong enough to *keep* them there. And,  
> in
> the Beeb's case, a willingness to keep the show in one time slot.  
> (They've
> been bouncing it around a lot Across the Pond, mostly for the sake of
> sporting events, but occasionally for no good reason. Maybe stupidity in
> television programming *isn't* limited to H'Wood...)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
> --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Tracey de Morsella  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> From: Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Davies: It's OK If David Tennant Leaves 'Doctor  
> Who'
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 2:50 AM
>
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> Davies: It's OK If David Tennant Leaves 'Doctor Who'
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> This story contains MAJOR SPOILERS for the fourth season finales  
> episodes of
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> "Doctor Who" which have yet to appear in the United States.
>
>
>
> In what might be considered one of the best "Doctor Who" cliffhangers of  
> all
>
> time, David Tennant's 10th Doctor is mortally wounded and the final  
> seconds
>
> have fans seeing him go into regeneration mode.
>
>
>
> But is this truly the end of Tennant's work in "Doctor Who"?
>
>
>
> Outgoing executive producer Russell T. Davies won't say for sure, but he
>
> tells The Daily MIrror   that "Doctor Who" will go  
> on
>
> with or without the star.
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> handed over to Tom Baker," he said. "I was 11 when Jon Pertwee left and  
> it
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> broke my heart. But then along came Tom and he was just spectacular in  
> it,
>
> so I suspect that will happen again."
>
>
>
> Head honchos at BBC, as well as some of the fans, were concerned when the
>
> series decided to hand things over from Christopher Eccleston to Tennant
>
> after the first season, but fans made the transition quite easily, Davies
>
> said.
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> "We change our cast every year, and our viewing figures go up," he said.  
> "It
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> David
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> was the best Doctor every because you are talking to an old 'Doctor Who'
>
> fan, and I love them all."
>
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>
> Very few people have had a chance to see the fourth season finale, which
>
> airs in the United Kingdom Saturday night. Not even the Controller of BBC
>
> One or the network's head of drama. But Davies has seen it ... more than
>
> once.
>
>
>
> "There are probably 10 of us who have watched it, including David ... and
>
> Catherine Tate. That's about it," Davies said. "I've seen it about 15  
> times.
>
> I'm busy at the moment, but I had an hour off yesterday at 3 p.m. and I
>
> watched it again because it is such an exciting episode. And I will be
>
> watching it on Saturday night at home in Manchester with my boyfriend.
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>
> Trek can't do this! Even Star Wars can't do this.' All those things have
>
> spaceships and monsters, but this has a temp from Chiswick played by
>
> Catherine Tate, and Billie Piper with a great big gun. We have got Freema
>
> [Agyeman], who gets a remarkable story, and some of her best material  
> ever.
>
> It plays to 'Doctor Who's' strength."
>
>
>
> Fans had a chance to see yet another regeneration at the end of the  
> episode,
>
> but that is only the beginning of "Journey's End."
>
>
>
> Read the rest at:
>
>
>
> This story contains MAJOR SPOILERS for the fourth season finales  
> episodes of
>
> "Doctor Who" which have yet to appear in the United States.
>
>
>
> In what might be considered one of the best "Doctor Who" cliffhangers of  
> all
>
> time, David Tennant's 10th Doctor is mortally wounded and the final  
> seconds
>
> have fans seeing him go into regene

Re: [scifinoir2] WarGames returns to theaters

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I'm all for this. I love watching 80s movies on movie screens with better  
sound systems. Ever since I went to see the Star Trek episode in HD a  
while back, I have really been into movie theaters again. I have decided  
that it's the movies that were crappy and over-priced. Theaters are still  
good. One of the things I miss about New York are the movie theaters

Count me in for this. And if anyone finds a "Night Of The Comet"  
screening, I'm your man...

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:32:53 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Sorry, all. Clicked "Send" too soon.
>
> I guess this is for those who want to sit in the theater and take in the  
> full experience. Doesn't appeal at all to me. If I want the digital  
> dance, I'll go over to my friend Marcus' house, watch it on his 42" HD  
> rig. It'll cost me a lot less.
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only  
> angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt  
> Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country"
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ltGHlRRV8
>
> --- On Mon, 7/7/08, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [scifinoir2] WarGames returns to theaters
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 12:28 PM
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>http://featuresblog s.chicagotribune .com/entertainme  
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> A cyberthriller about a young computer geek who accidentally triggers
>
> a countdown to World War III will play in more than 300 theaters on
>
> July 24.
>
>
>
> If you thought to yourself, "That sounds like `WarGames,' " well, give
>
> yourself a cookie. It is "WarGames"—the original 1983 film and not a
>
> remake.
>
>
>
> That this 25-year-old Matthew Broderick/Ally Sheedy movie would be
>
> returning to hundreds of theaters, including 15 in the Chicago area,
>
> gives an indication of how digital technology is transforming the
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Re: [scifinoir2] See what happens when geeks take over a town?

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I wonder how much it would cost to rename my county Golgafrincham...Or  
Stovelkor...The tourism revenue would be tremendous!

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:51:30 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zh27yMnLQe4



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Re: [scifinoir2] "Ain't It Cool" didn't think that it was...

[Lockhart, Daryle]

One of the things that confuses me most about this is how Mike refuses to  
accept that once he found Shrek,  his career had found its calling. He can  
do (that one Scottish sounding) animated voices for the next 20 years and  
everyone will love him. Produce a bunch  of movies. Maybe even direct. But  
one more Austin Powers movie will destroy  everything he's worked for.

Adam Sandler wins the "next Eddie Murphy award". No other SNL alumn has  
been as successful in various genres of work.



On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:40:31 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> I *know*, Daryle. Ever since I read this, I've been looking at the  
> trailer every time it comes on, ignoring the obvious detrimental effects  
> it was having on my soul, trying to see if there might've been  
> *something* I missed. But I can only find *more* egregious things with  
> each viewing.
>
> "Lockhart, Daryle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is the first  
> time in a long time that I have heard both professional
> critics and the man on the street say in unison that a movie was
> absolutely unwatchable.
>
> The reviews of this movie make "Gigli" look like "Spider-Man 2".
>
>
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:57:59 -0400, Martin
> wrote:
>
>> SO sorry, forgot to put "Sorta OT" in front of the subject line...
>>
>> Martin  wrote:
>> I've seen kinder executions, folks...
>> =
>> Harry says, 'If Shit Got THE LOVE GURU On It, Shit Would Wipe It Off!'
>>  Harry says, 'If Shit Got THE LOVE GURU On It, Shit Would Wipe It Off!'
>> Unfuckingbelievably unspeakably awful. THE LOVE GURU is astonishingly
>> rancid. There's a part of me, that wants THE LOVE GURU to make like 75
>> Million opening weekend. Why? So that the entire - giant film going
>> audience marks Mike Myers' death as a comedian.
>> Reviews of this film are nearly universally grotesquely negative - and
>> with good reason. With this film, Myers puts a shotgun in the mouth of
>> comedy and kills it. This isn't merely a bad film, but a painful
>> experience that you keep telling yourself to leave. However, I have a
>> very strong belief in witnessing the terror. People had to survive the
>> Holocaust to hold those responsible, responsible. This film isn't as bad
>> as the Holocaust. Nothing could be. But in the realm of film going
>> experiences - it's a third trimester abortion. It is a pregnant woman
>> smoking a cigarette and drinking a Coors Light.
>> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37138
>> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will
>> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man
>> Without A Country"
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will
>> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man
>> Without A Country"
>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] "Ain't It Cool" didn't think that it was...

[Lockhart, Daryle]

This is the first time in a long time that I have heard both professional  
critics and the man on the street say in unison that a movie was  
absolutely unwatchable.

The reviews of this movie make "Gigli" look like "Spider-Man 2".


On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:57:59 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> SO sorry, forgot to put "Sorta OT" in front of the subject line...
>
> Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
> I've seen kinder executions, folks...
> =
> Harry says, 'If Shit Got THE LOVE GURU On It, Shit Would Wipe It Off!'
>  Harry says, 'If Shit Got THE LOVE GURU On It, Shit Would Wipe It Off!'
> Unfuckingbelievably unspeakably awful. THE LOVE GURU is astonishingly  
> rancid. There's a part of me, that wants THE LOVE GURU to make like 75  
> Million opening weekend. Why? So that the entire - giant film going  
> audience marks Mike Myers' death as a comedian.
> Reviews of this film are nearly universally grotesquely negative - and  
> with good reason. With this film, Myers puts a shotgun in the mouth of  
> comedy and kills it. This isn't merely a bad film, but a painful  
> experience that you keep telling yourself to leave. However, I have a  
> very strong belief in witnessing the terror. People had to survive the  
> Holocaust to hold those responsible, responsible. This film isn't as bad  
> as the Holocaust. Nothing could be. But in the realm of film going  
> experiences - it's a third trimester abortion. It is a pregnant woman  
> smoking a cigarette and drinking a Coors Light.
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37138
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
>
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1213895692

[Lockhart, Daryle]

"Mr. Monk In Outer Space", a novel based on characters from one of my  
favorite TV shows, "Monk". A really fun read so far. This particular story  
combines two

Descriptive blurb:

"When Adrian Monk investigates the murder of Conrad Stipe, the legendary  
creator of the cult hit TV series BEYOND EARTH, he finally meets people  
who are even more obsessive-compulsive than he is — science fiction fans.  
One of the fans could be the killer who, wearing an elephant nose and  
dressed in a starship uniform, gunned Stipe down. To find the murderer,  
Monk enters the bizarre culture of science fiction fandom with the help of  
the world's leading expert on the show... his agoraphobic brother Ambrose."


On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:15:56 -0400, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> I'm in the midst of the new William Gibson, Spook Country. I'm torn thus  
> far because it's the first Gibson novel I've ever read where I didn't  
> like any of the characters. I want to finish it before make a full  
> assessment of the book but honestly, I've been trudging through it.
>
> Next up is the Complete Hitchhiker's Guide. I'm revisiting it for the  
> first time in over a decade.
>
> What's every one else reading?
>
> B
>
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1213388199

[Lockhart, Daryle]

No word on whether the two events are related.



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Re: [scifinoir2] Drivers turn to blow-up dolls to beat traffic rules

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I have seen this in NJ and MD since the early 90s in HOV lanes. Yes, they  
get away with it. It looks hilarious.


On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:54:10 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do they get away with it?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Martin
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:49 AM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Albert Fields';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CINQUE; 'Cleo'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Drivers turn to blow-up dolls to beat traffic
> rules
>
> They're just getting around to this down there? I've been seeing this  
> here
> in Atlanta since the day I moved here, back in '86.
>
> Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thu Jun 12, 12:02 PM ET
> Drivers in New Zealand's largest city of Auckland are turning to  
> inflatable
>  passengers to try and beat transit lane rules.
> Blow-up dolls, shop mannequins and dogs dressed up as children have all
> been
>  used to try and justify driving in lanes where vehicles are required to
> have
>  at least three occupants.
> "There were some odd people that tried these antics," North Shore city
>  council traffic safety manager Andre Dannhauser told Reuters.
> Drivers caught trying to beat the system are fined NZ$150
> ($114).
> Enforcement officers taking pictures of offending cars in transit lanes
> have
>  been treated to a wide range of excuses from caught-out motorists,
>  Dannhauser said.
> "The most common one is the imaginary passengers they claim we couldn't  
> see
>  because they were so small," Dannhauser said.
> For a while some enterprising students charged a small fee to get driven
>  past the enforcement officers, before running back up the road to repeat
> the
>  trick. "The money they generated from that was not enough to pay for the
>  beer for the thirst they generated," Dannhauser said. (NZ$1=$1.32)
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080612/od_nm/dolls_odd_dc_1&printer=1;_ylt=ApvJ
>  pKUdEmh.N2OJ0oDM_ZIZ.3QA
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get
> organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A
> Country"
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] FW: [AFAMHED] Observation: No black boys in bookstores

[Lockhart, Daryle]

They are in the comic book stores. They are at the video game stores. They  
are online. They are getting their haircut. Bookstore chains are so busy  
being newsstands and coffee shops and music stores that they have missed  
the whole point.

I rarely buy books in a bookstore. I know what I want and Amazon all day.  
(Shame on me, I need to find and support a Black online vendor)

When we had the comic book store, most of my customers were male. Half of  
them were Black. Now that it's gone, when I go to the nearest shop, I see  
LOTS of young Black men there. On Tuesdays and Saturdays, you can find 10  
brothers between the ages of 8 and 50 in the course of an hour -- easily.  
My son and I REGULARLY hit the comic book store.  We also  hit  up a store  
that  specializes in books and toys for home schooled kids.  He isn't  
home-schooled, but the books are enjoyable and give him an advantage in  
Kindergarten.




On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:53:00 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Would that it weren't so...I went into two bookstores yesterday (B&N and  
> Borders), and the only other Black men inside *worked there*. And that's  
> been pretty much a consistent experience throughout my life.
>
> Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: African-Americans in Higher Education
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas, Leroy
>  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:16 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: [AFAMHED] Observation: No black boys in bookstores
> I was in Barnes & Noble over a week ago with my daughter who just  
> graduated
>  from high school.  We were discussing her recent prom date and another  
> young
>  man with whom she had gone on a few dates.  We both concluded that they  
> were
>  not young men that she could see herself with in a serious relationship.
> Then, she said something that surprised me, but made me feel good.  She
>  said, "My ideal guy is someone I would meet in a bookstore."  I hadn't
>  realized that all of those years of taking her to bookstores since she  
> was
>  old enough to walk had such an impact on her.  She plans to study  
> creative
>  writing and art in college starting this fall.  Then she said, "Dad,  
> think
>  about it.  Have we ever seen a black male in a bookstore, a child or
>  teenager?"  I thought about it for a few moments.  I know I used to say  
> to
>  her over the years that I wish I saw more black kids in bookstores with
>  their parents.  We always noted the Asians and white families and could  
> not
>  help but wonder where were the kids that looked like her.
> So I thought long and hard and, with no exaggeration, I can say after  
> over
>  15 years of Borders and Barnes & Noble trips, I cannot recall ever  
> seeing a
>  black male child in anyone of them.  We have seen young black girls on
>  occasion.  We always see the college-age black females.  But never black
>  males.  I can say that there are black male adults-some  
> "do-it-yourselfers"
>  and presumably grad students--occasionally reading at one of the areas  
> where
>  snacks are served.
> But my daughter and I both agreed that we cannot recall a black male  
> child
>  or teen in any of the many bookstores we have visited.  And I have been  
> in
>  stores from coast to coast, north and south.  Girls? Yes.  Boys?  It's  
> both
>  sad and frightening.  I mentioned this to a few colleagues and they say  
> that
>  they have made similar observations-and they offered their reasons for  
> this
>  phenomenon.  I didn't want to discuss reasons.  I am still trying to  
> wrap my
>  brain around my own experience, because I am concerned about how this  
> has
>  affected my daughter.
> Is my experience unique (I sure hope so!), or has anyone here had the  
> same
>  experience?
> LT
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Short Star Trek Trivia Quiz

[Lockhart, Daryle]

you too?!! I don't even know WHY I know that. I can't recall  what   
episode or movie I would have known that form yet I got it right. Scary.


On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:51:37 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Martin is terrified right now.
>
> Despite openly loathing all Trek save DSNine and Enterprise, I hit a  
> perfect score including, as the pollster said, the ultimate geek  
> question of knowing KEEROOK's SN without needing to look  
> it up.
>
> brent wodehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:  
> http://html.wesh.com/sh/quizine/833776/index.html
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
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Re: [scifinoir2] Battlestar Finale! - What the Frak? No New Battlestar Until 2009

[Lockhart, Daryle]

So then...are we over "frak"? can we get back to "frell"?

I must admit, I used "so say we all" in a meeting last week.


On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:31:15 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Pardon me, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a frak...
>
> That much of a break may lose me as a fan, frankly. I'd probably plug in  
> for the finale, just to see what's developed, go into the Skiffy boards  
> to register my supreme dislike, then leave the BG portion of the boards  
> forever. Provided that it doesn't dissolve on its own, that is. I don't  
> now how many of you even peek in, but a few of the one-time hardcore BG  
> fans have quietly crept over into the DW and SJA portions of the Skiffy  
> boards, to quietly post away.
>
> Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote: Battlestar Galactica fans are  
> well-advised to sit back and savor this
>  Friday's midseason finale, because the balance of Season 4 - the series'
>  last, lest we forget - won't be hitting the tube until after "the first  
> of
>  the year," says executive producer Ronald D. Moore. And that's a  
> best-case
>  scenario.
> At a Wednesday-night screening of this week's episode, Moore explained to
>  TVGuide.com that even though they are currently filming the series'  
> final
>  scenes, the "practical realities" of post-production - coupled with the
>  formidable end-of-year competition presented by new fall series,  
> baseball
>  and football - places the onset of the final episodes at the start of  
> 2009,
>  at the earliest. "Realistically, there's no way to get back on the air
>  faster," he apologetically added.
> What's your take? Sure to be worth the wait? Or does it sound like a
>  frakkin' eternity? -
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Shyamalan calls his "Happening" a fun B movie

[Lockhart, Daryle]

1.  I saw the byline and got happy. I am clearly going through Trek  
withdrawal.

2.  I saw Night on BBC this morning. He raised an interesting point about  
the public perception that he's fallen off.  He said "To say "he's a good  
guy, he makes good pictures" is not good journalism. You have to say  
something either overly negative or positive."




On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:19:46 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> By Michelle Nichols
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSN1146617320080611?pageNumber=2&v
> irtualBrandChannel=0
>
> NEW YORK (Reuters) - Director M. Night Shyamalan is best known for the
> Oscar-nominated global hit "The Sixth Sense," but fans should be under no
> illusions about his latest thriller, "The Happening."
>
> "I wanted it to be a fantastic, fun B-movie," Shyamalan told Reuters in a
> recent interview about the eighth film he has written and directed. "The  
> No.
> 1 thing is I want people to say: 'That was a really fun B-movie.'"
>
> After his 2006 flop "Lady In the Water," which was slammed by critics and
> grossed just $73 million at the box office worldwide, some critics say  
> the
> pressure is on the 37-year-old Indian-born American, so he has returned  
> to
> what he does best -- scaring people.
>
> His two previous "scary" movies, 1999's "The Sixth Sense" starring Bruce
> Willis and 2002's "Signs" starring Mel Gibson, made more than $1.7  
> billion
> globally between them. But analysts are puzzled as to how "The Happening"
> will do when it opens around the world this week.
>
> "His box office record has been all over the map, but he's held to such a
> high standard because of how well 'The Sixth Sense' did," said Paul
> Dergarabedian, box office analyst for Media By Numbers.
>
> "I don't think this is going to be 'Lady in the Water,'" he said. "This  
> is
> definitely going to be a stronger opening then that. The marketing has  
> been
> pretty strong, and audiences are always intrigued by M. Night Shyamalan."
>
> Brandon Gray, president of movie Web site Box Office Mojo, agreed. But he
> added that because Shyamalan is promoted as a key selling point -- his  
> name
> appears above the title on movie posters -- a box office failure is more
> harmful to him.
>
> "Even though 'Lady in the Water' is by no means the greatest flop ever  
> and
> 'The Village' did a lot of business, it just disappointed a lot of  
> people,"
> Gray said.
>
> "The Happening," starring Mark Wahlberg and Zooey Deschanel, sees an
> invisible killer spread throughout the U.S. Northeast, leaving people  
> asking
> if it is a terrorist attack, a government conspiracy or an unexplainable  
> act
> of nature.
>
> "There's so many things to be paranoid about right now," said Shyamalan,
> adding he wanted to play on people's fears for the future about such  
> things
> as terrorism and climate change. "I was so clear about what kind of  
> movie I
> was making."
>
> After seeing the movie, Shyamalan hopes audiences will nervously wonder  
> if
> "that could really happen" and maybe even feel guilty about how they  
> might
> be harming the planet.
>
> But early reviews have panned the 20th Century Fox film.
>
> "The movie seems more like a '50s science-fiction film of extreme  
> paranoia
> or an episode of 'The Twilight Zone' that even at a swiftly paced 90  
> minutes
> feels padded," The Hollywood Reporter's Kirk Honeycutt wrote.
>
> Variety's Justin Chang wrote: "After an initial bloom of interest, the  
> Fox
> release will likely wilt quickly."
>
> Reuters/Nielsen
>
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Battlestar Finale! - What the Frak? No New Battlestar Until 2009

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I stopped watching at the second episode.  I will wait until 09 and watch  
the whole season. When is Caprica due to  come out?

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:18:23 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Battlestar Galactica fans are well-advised to sit back and savor this
> Friday's midseason finale, because the balance of Season 4 - the series'
> last, lest we forget - won't be hitting the tube until after "the first  
> of
> the year," says executive producer Ronald D. Moore. And that's a  
> best-case
> scenario.
>
> At a Wednesday-night screening of this week's episode, Moore explained to
> TVGuide.com that even though they are currently filming the series' final
> scenes, the "practical realities" of post-production - coupled with the
> formidable end-of-year competition presented by new fall series, baseball
> and football - places the onset of the final episodes at the start of  
> 2009,
> at the earliest. "Realistically, there's no way to get back on the air
> faster," he apologetically added.
>
> What's your take? Sure to be worth the wait? Or does it sound like a
> frakkin' eternity? -
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Open Letter to Certain White Women Threatening to Wi...

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Well, there's your post 15 minutes ago about Dr. King

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:12:34 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In a message dated 6/10/2008 6:59:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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>
> Disagreeing with us has nothing to do with the perception that you have  
> some
> issues with Black men.
>
> Again,
> From what posts do you reference that I hate black men?
>
>
>
> **Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best
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Re: [scifinoir2] Spielberg Wants To Take Back DreamWorks

[Lockhart, Daryle]

This is VERY interesting. This is akin to Warren Buffet announcing he's  
buying something. It's about to be hot. Independent studios are about to  
be the way to go, looks like. Marvel is having a great first year,   
Weinstein is doing fine...this is a good call.

I notice this comes after Transformers has made its number from theaters  
and home video.

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:44:33 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Spielberg Wants To Take Back DreamWorks
>
>
> 10 June 2008 10:28 AM, PDT
>
> http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIyMTQyNDAxOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTE2Nz
> QxMQ@@._V1._SY90_.jpgSteven Spielberg  
> 
> is planning to make DreamWorks a separate, independent film company  
> again --
> and is trying to raise more than $1 billion in financing to do so, the
> Hollywood Reporter reported today (Tuesday), citing no sources.  
> Spielberg,
> who reportedly plans to terminate his personal contract with Paramount at
> the end of the year, has made no decision yet on who would distribute
> DreamWorks' movies, but, according to the trade paper, he is leaning  
> toward
> Universal, although he might use a potential distribution deal as  
> leverage
> in his negotiations with Paramount, which acquired DreamWorks in 2006.  
> The
> Reporter also indicated that Disney and Fox may also propose deals to
> distribute DreamWorks' product.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/news/ns003/#ni0246309
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Green Hornet Gets Release Date

[Lockhart, Daryle]

It really was a neat show! I can't wait for when they show the Batman  
crossover episodes! On the station I watch it on, American Life Channel  
(or something like that),  it comes on right after Batman, so they may  
actually air the two back to back!



On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:24:19 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ha-ha! But wasn't the Green Hornet a serious TV series?
>
> -- Original message ------
> From: "Lockhart, Daryle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>
>> I think him and Steven Chow would make for a fun movie. As you will
>> recall, I've only been watching Green Hornet for a year now, so I'm no
>> expert, but I can see pairing the two of these guys up. As the Hornet,  
>> he
>> always has the coat on anyway, so Seth wouldn't have to work out TOO  
>> much.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:17:15 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> > wow, Rogen as the Green Hornet? Is this going to be more serious or
>> > humorous? Is he going to cut his hair and hit the gym?
>> >
>> > -- Original message --
>> > From: "Tracey de Morsella"
>> >
>> > Green Hornet Gets Release Date
>> >
>> > UPDATE: Rogen talks about the film.
>> >
>> > by Orlando Parfitt, IGN UK
>> >
>> > UK, June 5, 2008 - Rumours began to circulate
>> > a while back that
>> > Knocked Up's Seth Rogen was considering writing the script for - and
>> > possibly starring in - Sony's 21st century update of The Green Hornet.
>> >
>> > Well, it seems those rumours were true all along, with Entertainment
>> > Weekly
>> > confirming that the studio has greenlit Rogen's involvement as scribe  
>> and
>> > star, also unveiling a release date in the process.
>> >
>> > The film - which revolves around the titular crime-fighter and  
>> alter-ego
>> > of
>> > Britt Reed, a bored newspaper magnate who fights crime with his  
>> sidekick
>> > Kato (famously played in the '60s TV show by Bruce Lee) - has been
>> > pencilled
>> > in for a June 25, 2010 U.S. release.
>> >
>> > UPDATE: IGN recently caught up with Rogen where he discussed a number  
>> of
>> > aspects of the film. Firstly, he confirmed that Green Hornet will be a
>> > PG-13, saying, "That's an action movie, you can do anything
>> > violence-wise."
>> > Apparently Stephen Chow hasn't signed on for the role of Kato, but his
>> > name
>> > has come up in negotiations and he said they would "love to have him."
>> >
>> > "We weren't even sure going in we could be more of a Jet Li type guy  
>> who
>> > maybe isn't the funniest guy in the world, but he's physically very
>> > impressive, or whether it would be more of a Stephen Chow type guy who
>> > can
>> > do martial arts, but clearly has a sense of humour. In the version  
>> that
>> > we've made, it seems like a Stephen Chow type guy would be more  
>> suitable
>> > for
>> > the role. Again, until they officially greenlight it, it's hard to  
>> make
>> > any
>> > of those decisions," Rogen continued.
>> >
>> > The tone of the film will be a "very intense action movie" but also
>> > focus on
>> > the humorous nature of the relationship between Kato and the titular
>> > central
>> > character. "A lot of comedy comes from that," he said. "It's kind of a
>> > funny
>> > dynamic and a funny relationship and no movies really did that except
>> > Batman
>> > & Robin. No movies did that well."
>> >
>> > Rogen said he and Sony are now actively searching for directors, but
>> > no-one
>> > has yet
>> >
>> > http://movies.ign.com/articles/879/879433p1.html
>> >
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1213135419

[Lockhart, Daryle]

This statement is not only false and irresponsible, it is telling.

There is sooo much great music out there that is not only positive and NOT  
by criminals, but better in quality! The problem is that for 10-15 years  
radio made these people stars and, in many cases, straight up REFUSED to  
play independent artists. They REFUSED to make stars. They played records  
 from major labels almost EXCLUSIVELY. If TJMS took R. Kelly out of its  
rotation, and added some Jhelisa, Carleen Anderson, Young Disciples,  
Jazzyfatnastees, or Omar, they would not only have a show without anybody  
with a criminal case, they'd also have a more interesting show.

On this topic specifically though, I submit this:

What if Robin Thicke said something really racist one day? What if Michael  
McDonald abused children? These artists would never be heard on Black  
radio again.

So then why is it such a "challenge" to stop playing R. Kelly?



On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:51:02 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "I we didn't play songs by criminals, we wouldn't play any songs at  
> all"  Jay Anthony Brown on the Tom Joyner Morning Show.  The gang was  
> discussing whether or not they should play R. Kelley songs if he's  
> convicted of child pornography and whatever else he's charged with. They  
> then went on to discuss others whose music they do play, including Bobby  
> Brown (drugs, speeding, child support, all seen as "minor"),  James  
> Brown (spousal abuse, discharge of firearm, fleeing police), Rick James  
> (imprisonment, abuse of that lady he burned with a cig), Michael Jackson  
> (not convicted, but guilty in many minds).
>
> Interesting conversation, and not, for once, something you can put only  
> on Black people. The likes of Hank Williams, JR., Waylon Jennings,  
> Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, and the modern so-called "bad boys" have  
> histories replete with drug abuse, theft/embezzlement, violence, etc.
>
> Hmm, maybe Jay is right: if we didn't play music by criminals or nuts,  
> we'd probably be left with Pat Boone and Lawrence Welk tunes!
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Green Hornet Gets Release Date

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I think him and Steven Chow would make for a fun movie. As you  will  
recall, I've only been watching Green Hornet for a year now, so I'm no  
expert, but I can see pairing the two of these guys up.  As the Hornet, he  
always has the coat on anyway, so Seth wouldn't have to work out TOO much.



On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:17:15 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> wow, Rogen as the Green Hornet? Is this going to be more serious or  
> humorous? Is he going to cut his hair and hit the gym?
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Green Hornet Gets Release Date
>
> UPDATE: Rogen talks about the film.
>
> by Orlando  Parfitt, IGN UK
>
> UK, June 5, 2008 - Rumours began to circulate
>  a while back that
> Knocked Up's Seth Rogen was considering writing the script for - and
> possibly starring in - Sony's 21st century update of The Green Hornet.
>
> Well, it seems those rumours were true all along, with Entertainment  
> Weekly
> confirming that the studio has greenlit Rogen's involvement as scribe and
> star, also unveiling a release date in the process.
>
> The film - which revolves around the titular crime-fighter and alter-ego  
> of
> Britt Reed, a bored newspaper magnate who fights crime with his sidekick
> Kato (famously played in the '60s TV show by Bruce Lee) - has been  
> pencilled
> in for a June 25, 2010 U.S. release.
>
> UPDATE: IGN recently caught up with Rogen where he discussed a number of
> aspects of the film. Firstly, he confirmed that Green Hornet will be a
> PG-13, saying, "That's an action movie, you can do anything  
> violence-wise."
> Apparently Stephen Chow hasn't signed on for the role of Kato, but his  
> name
> has come up in negotiations and he said they would "love to have him."
>
> "We weren't even sure going in we could be more of a Jet Li type guy who
> maybe isn't the funniest guy in the world, but he's physically very
> impressive, or whether it would be more of a Stephen Chow type guy who  
> can
> do martial arts, but clearly has a sense of humour. In the version that
> we've made, it seems like a Stephen Chow type guy would be more suitable  
> for
> the role. Again, until they officially greenlight it, it's hard to make  
> any
> of those decisions," Rogen continued.
>
> The tone of the film will be a "very intense action movie" but also  
> focus on
> the humorous nature of the relationship between Kato and the titular  
> central
> character. "A lot of comedy comes from that," he said. "It's kind of a  
> funny
> dynamic and a funny relationship and no movies really did that except  
> Batman
> & Robin. No movies did that well."
>
> Rogen said he and Sony are now actively searching for directors, but  
> no-one
> has yet
>
> http://movies.ign.com/articles/879/879433p1.html
>
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1213135207

[Lockhart, Daryle]

John Edwards is 55 Years old. Barack Obama is 46. Even 4 years ago Edwards  
was not "a young guy with good hair."

Edwards lost the nomination because he was coupled with the lamest  
candidate the Democratic party could find. And you KNOW this.

What's with you and race/politics? You get emotional and then go  
completely off track -- often. We always end up at the same place when you  
join a conversation regarding race. Then you act like you're beeing ganged  
up on, but in reality folks (the same folks) are just correcting you,  
because you say stuff like this. Stuff that's just WRONG.  Why do you  
keep  doing this?

I guess I should ask why *I* keep doing this.


On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:28:36 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In a message dated 6/10/2008 3:34:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Edwards did not finish his first term
>
> So I was wrong. Edwards still did not get the nomination. He was a young  
> guy
> with good hair. So why should Obama get different treatment? He is  
> black. You
> don't touch that.
>
>
>
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1213134464

[Lockhart, Daryle]

King died because he was shot dead on a hotel balcony. He was assassinated  
because he spoke against the Vietnam war and because he was working to  
organize labor.

Nobody is saying you are racist. It has been suggested that you are a but  
hateriffic where Obama is concerned, and it could be concluded that it is  
because he is a Black male.




On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:32:40 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In a message dated 6/10/2008 3:35:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> For you it is all about race (specifically putting down Black men)
>
> I don't believe that if you criticize black men or the actions of any  
> black
> man, it makes you racist. A person should be able to say that they  
> disagree
> with someone without being labeled a racist. That is what King died for.
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] 'Willie Horton' admaker taking aim at Obama

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I went to the website.  There are many a white folk fear mongering jewel  
there.  Like this classic from the the "about us" page:

"Obama is a liberal, only slightly more stylish than Jesse Jackson and Al  
Sharpton, but equally dedicated to the same causes. He will not bring  
unity or harmony rather he will bring back the confusion, depression and  
humiliation of the dismal Carter era."

Translation: "don't look at what he has already DONE, look at what I am  
telling you."



On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:51:24 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> And so, it begins...
>
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I am curious to see how  
> the Obama campaign will counter this. On its
> face it is false - the Governor suspended Illinois' death penalty
> because Illinois' on-going process of gaining convictions was so
> flawed that many men convicted to death were found to be not guilty of
> the crimes they were convicted.
>
> Now, don't get it twisted, like Bill Maher I am in favor of both
> abortion and the death penalty - "whatever keeps the expressway
> moving" - but I do not support the death penalty because its
> implementation is so often flawed.
>
> ~rave!
>
> www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-adjun09,0,6559592.story
> chicagotribune.com
>
> 'Willie Horton' admaker taking aim at Obama
>
> By Richard B. Schmitt
>
> Tribune Newspapers
>
> June 9, 2008
>
> WASHINGTON — On a Web site he calls ExposeObama.com, Floyd Brown, the
> producer of the "Willie Horton" ad that helped to defeat Michael
> Dukakis in 1988, is preparing an encore.
>
> Brown is raising money for a series of ads that he says will show Sen.
> Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to be out of touch on an issue of fundamental
> concern to voters: violent crime.
>
> A video already on the Internet attacks the presumptive Democratic
> nominee for opposing a bill while an Illinois legislator that would
> have extended the death penalty to gang-related murders.
>
> "When the time came to get tough, Obama chose to be weak. ... Can a
> man so weak in the war on gangs be trusted in the war on terror?" it  
> asks.
>
> Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said, "Sen. Obama has a record that
> demonstrates he is both tough and smart on crime."
>
> Though crime has taken a back seat in the presidential race to the
> Iraq War and the economy, some Republicans think Obama is vulnerable
> on that issue—and they hope to inject it into the campaign.
>
> The vast amount of crime-fighting in the U.S. is done at the state and
> local level, not in the White House. Critics say the issue of crime is
> used primarily to exploit voter fears and stir up prejudices.
>
> The "Willie Horton" ad focused on a black Massachusetts felon who
> raped a woman while on weekend furlough from prison. Dukakis, the
> Democratic presidential candidate in 1988, was governor at the time
> and supported the program.
>
> Also Sunday, presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain and Obama
> rejected an offer from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and ABC News
> to host the first proposed presidential town hall because they do not
> want it limited to one TV network.
>
> Los Angeles Times; The Associated Press contributed.
>
> Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune
>
>
>
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Open Letter to Certain White Women Threatening to Wi...

[Lockhart, Daryle]

As for the anti-Black male talk, I personally remember you going off for  
two days about Obama like a month or so ago, and it sure sounded like you   
were going off because he was a Black man. But it doesn't really matter,  
you feel how you feel.

HOWEVER...if you call what Cheney did to Edwards being slammed, I would  
highly suggest you invest in a DVR, or make sure that what you watched was  
the actual debate and not something edited or filtered. I watched those  
debates. Cheney had one hit for the night: "Senator Gone". That was it.  
Edwards whooped Cheney's behind.

There are two main reasons why we're not complainig about Vice President  
Edwards today:

1. Karl Rove and his remarkably accurate understanding of the fear life of  
Americans.
2. Who in the hell is John Kerry.



On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:12:41 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What anti black male talk? I want to know what anti black male talk?
> You do have more experience with white male recruiters, My experience  
> with
> white males is that it is the new generation of women who are at fault.
> John Edwards ran as Vice President. He was slammed by Dick Cheney at the
> debates. Edwards came off as a rich pretty boy with good hair who care  
> for the
> poor. Nobody care for his message.  I am not sure if he won any state.  
> He did
> well in Iowa. However the race came down to history. A black man and a  
> (white)
> woman. The media had made its choice.
> Richardson a Hispanic man and governor with diplomat experience was not  
> even
> in the running. Hispanics do not have the political power or history  in  
> this
> country. According to the media, it was not their time.
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] The Black House

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I see your Black House and raise you:

http://theobamapound.com/

...this has become THE image of the day.




On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:37:48 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://youtube.com/watch?v=QarvIYjhWjA
>
> nuff said!
>
> ~rave!
>



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1211912544

[Lockhart, Daryle]

It's now official - Sex & the City fans are the biggest geeks in the world.

[ source:  
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/2008/05/27/woman_pays_19k_for_bogus_premiere_ticket/2483/
   
]


NEW YORK, May 27 (UPI) -- A woman said she was scammed out of $19,000 when  
she tried to buy on eBay a ticket to Tuesday night's "Sex and the City"  
premiere and after-party in New York.

The New York Post said Ella Sherman flew from her home in Singapore to see  
the movie and party with the stars after she bought a "Sex and the City"  
themed package on eBay through the fledgling travel business Destination  
on Location.

The trip was supposed to include accommodations at a luxury Manhattan  
hotel, as well as tickets to the premiere and after-party, shopping trips  
to the Jimmy Choo and Patricia Field boutiques and admittance to the  
members-only club Soho House.

The Post said the travel company told Sherman after she paid the $19,000  
that it could no longer offer tickets to the premiere and after-party.

Joanne Konstantinakos, a partner in Destination, told the newspaper  
Sherman's money hasn't been refunded because the travel company fell prey  
to a fraudulent seller.

Although New Line offered Sherman a free ticket to the premiere after a  
call from the Post, Sherman is still disappointed.

"It was the after-party that was the big thing for me," she said.

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Re: [scifinoir2] $175 burger: you want gold with that?

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Here's the thing: Ever go out and buy a drink? Similar markup. I have  
ordered a bottle of $9 wine at a restaurant and paid $40. Hell, you can  
pay $6 for a glass of $3 beer at an average pub! So a $175 burger seems  
high, and IS high, but there's really no difference between an $18 burger  
(which I have actually seen) and this one, the cost  of the burger did not  
change.


On Fri, 23 May 2008 02:30:06 -0400, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'll get my ex to make it...keep the gold foil crap...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   The Food channel ahs a great series of shows about different types of  
> food, and travels all over the country to showcase places that serve the  
> best of them. They've done this for ice cream, hot dogs, pizza,  
> barbecue, and hamburgers. Their show on burgers talked about this place.  
> Evidently the kobe beef is from Japan, and the cows are literally raised  
> with tender lovin' care--almost like humans. They're not stressed, get a  
> special diet, even get massaged in some cases!
>
> I know that my spending six bucks on a burger and shake represents the  
> income of a week's hard labour for some people in the world, but this is  
> crazy. No wonder some people in the world sometimes look on us with  
> anger. there's splurging and there's decadence.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "ravenadal"
> (Enough of this Obama talk - lets talk about something REALLY
> important like...$175 hamburgers!)
>
> ~rave!
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080520/od_nm/hamburger_dc
>
> $175 burger: you want gold with that? By Daniel Trotta
>
> 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
>
>
> Its creators admit it is the ultimate in decadence: a $175 hamburger.
>
> The Wall Street Burger Shoppe just raised its price from $150 to
> assure its designation as the costliest burger in the city as
> determined by Pocket Change, an online newsletter about the most
> expensive things in New York.
>
> "Wall Street has good days and bad days. We wanted to have the
> everyday burger (for $4) ... and then something special if you really
> have a good day on Wall Street," said co-owner Heather Tierney.
>
> The burger, created by chef and co-owner Kevin O'Connell, seeks to
> justify its price with a Kobe beef patty, lots of black truffles,
> seared foie gras, aged Gruyere cheese, wild mushrooms and flecks of
> gold leaf on a brioche bun.
>
> The eatery sells 20 or 25 per month in the fine dining room upstairs
> versus hundreds of $4 burgers each day at the diner counter
> downstairs, Tierney said.
>
> Pocket Change previously designated the double truffle burger at
> Daniel Boulud's DB Bistro Moderne as the most expensive at $120, and
> the Burger Shoppe set out to top that.
>
> Boulud's creation -- available only during black truffle season from
> December to March -- rose to $150 this past season, so the Burger
> Shoppe raised its price on Monday to $175.
>
> "Our burger is not about the price," said Georgette Farkas, a Boulud
> spokeswoman. "If you are making something concerned only about the
> price, you are off in the wrong direction."
>
> Without truffles, Boulud's burger costs $32. It has a ground sirloin
> patty stuffed with red wine braised short ribs.
>
> O'Connell said the Burger Shoppe was "finding the ultimate expression
> of each one of the ingredients."
>
> "The concept was like a mushroom-bacon-Swiss cheese burger, which is
> my favorite sort of burger," he said.
>
> The burger comes with golden truffle mayonnaise, Belgian-style fries
> and a mixed greens and tomato salad. O'Connell pairs the dish with
> many fine wines, a lager or a toasted brown beer, or ginger ale.
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Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Hillary Raises Assassination Issue: Defends Long-Running Campaign

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Okay, that's it. Call the sandman. Get her outta there while we can stop  
the bleeding. This can ONLY end badly.


On Fri, 23 May 2008 17:33:09 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wonderful woman..
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Susan Smith Ross
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:25 PM
> To: The-Vine AKA; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Hillary Raises Assassination Issue: Defends Long-Running  
> Campaign
>
>
>
> Hillary Raises Assassination Issue
>
>
> Defends Long-Running Campaign
>
>
> By Geoff Earle
>
>
>  
>
> May 23, 2008 --
>
> Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy
> while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.
>
> "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the
> California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all  
> remember
> Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand
> it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.
>
>  OUSEL/80522033&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL> Watch a video of the editorial
> board meeting here.
>
> Obama's camp immediately fired back.
>
> "Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was
> unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," Obama campaign spokesman
> said in a statement.
>
> Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls  
> Argus-Leader's
> editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained
> that, "People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa."
>
> Obama, the first African-American to advance so far in the race for the
> White House, has faced threats, sources have said.
>
> Robert Kennedy, the younger brother of President John F. Kennedy, was  
> gunned
> down in 1968 after winning the California primary. He had been a hero on  
> the
> left for his civil rights agenda and calls to end the war in Vietnam.
>
> Barack Obama, who leads Clinton by nearly 200 delegates and has already
> secured a majority of pledged delegates, has been the subject of threats.
> Early in the campaign, the Secret Service gave him a security detail at  
> the
> request of Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Illinois).
>
> Clinton criticized an "urgency" to end the campaign prematurely, saying,
> "Historically, that makes no sense."
>
> She later issued an apology for the remark.
>
> "I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire  
> nation
> and in particular the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I  
> certainly
> had no intention of that whatsoever," the former first lady said.
>
> Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson defended the comments to The Post, "She  
> was
> talking about the length of the race and using the '68 election as an
> example of how long the races in the past have gone -- she used her
> husband's race in the same vein."
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1211556279

[Lockhart, Daryle]

The thing about  Quarterlife is that it shows just how NBC doesn't get it.  
They only brought the show on because of the strike -- they saw how more  
people were watching that show online than were watching the nonsense they  
were pushing. Now that they have the Olympics they are bailing. I would  
like to do the math on how much money was spent on the one season shows  
--  most of them were horrible ideas that were greenlighted for no other  
reason than to  fulfilll contractual agreements.  How much  advertising  
money was WASTED during these shows.

Daryle

On Fri, 23 May 2008 09:50:59 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> If you all want proof conclusive that H'Wood knows naught of what it  
> does, look no further than "quarterlife". Barely lasted 1/24th of a  
> life, canceled after its first ep, the morning after said ep aired.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, after  
> strikes, aborted seasons, rushed finales, and cult followings, a lot of  
> shows have gotten the ax. Here's the latest list of all cancellations to  
> date, with some thoughts of mine:
> CBS' Canceled Shows
> Cane -   Guilty pleasure, this nighttime soap. Cast was good, looked  
> good, did good melodrama. But not much market for this type of show  
> anymore. :(
>  Jericho -Gonna miss this series, especially a show that had such a  
> strong, intelligent, capable black man in an important role
>  Kid Nation -   like there's not enough reality TV on anyway?
>  Moonlight -  Tracey sang it's praises, and just when I started  
> watching, it gets canned. Dumb move, CBS!  :(
>  Power of 10 -  Good riddance to more dumb game shows
>  Shark - a nother guilty pleasure. Started strong with great actor James  
> Woods, started drifting recently. Not surprised, but a wasted  
> opportunity.
>  Secret Talents of the Stars
>  Viva Laughlin - never watched it
>  Welcome to the Captain - never watched it
> ABC's Canceled Shows
> Big Shots
>  Carpoolers - watched one minute and almost choked, it was so bad
>  Cashmere Mafia - ditto
>  Cavemen - who was smoking what to greenlight this trash. What's next:  
> "Gieco Gekko: New York Detective"?
>  Dance War: Bruno vs. Carrie Ann -- let's just assume I hate all  
> reality/dance/game/singing shows right now
>  Here Come the Newlyweds
>  Just for Laughs
>  Men in Trees - decent, but not as good as Northern Exposure. still, it  
> filled a niche, not sure why it was canned.
>  Miss/Guided - never saw it
>  Notes From the Underbelly - never saw it
>  October Road - watched five minutes. awful
>  Oprah's Big Give - I like Oprah mostly, but was tired of seeing her  
> everywhere. And even a worthwhile reality show grates nowadays...
>  Women's Murder Club - decent show, deserved more  of a chance, but in a  
> reality/CSI/Law and Order world, had little chance. Maybe on Lifetime...?
> The CW's Canceled Shows
> Aliens in America - skirted the edge with racial stereotyping, but  
> mostly funny and intelligently writt--no wonder it was cancelled!
>  Beauty and the Geek - 'bout *F#l!! time
>  Crowned: The Mother of All Pageants
>  CW Now
>  Girlfriends - always fun, though drifted recently. Still, the longest  
> running sitcom on TV and one with a Black cast deserved a better sendoff  
> than this
>  Life Is Wild - not interested..
>  Online Nation
>  Pussycat Dolls Presents: Girlicious ---
>  WWE Smackdown! -- there is a God
> FOX's Canceled Shows
> Anchorwoman - never saw it
>  Canterbury's Law - never saw it
>  K-Ville -- someday Anderson's dramatic ability will be appreciated.  
> Show had potential. At least he's on Law and Order, but won't get to act  
> as much
>  Nashville
>  New Amsterdam - watched two eps, didn't really interest me
>  Next Great American Band
>  The Return of Jezebel James Unhitched
> NBC's Canceled Shows
> 1 vs. 100
>  Amne$ia
>  Bionic Woman - schizophrenic writing did this one in, as did the  
> angst-ridden angle of the star and her sister. Should have been Sackhoff  
> in the lead role...
>  Clash of the Choirs
>  Journeyman - some reason I just didn't get into this one. Guess I  
> compared it (unfavorably) to the British version of "Life on Mars", and  
> found it wanting...
>  Las Vegas - never watched it much,  but it was throwaway fun, perfect  
> for a Friday night
>  My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad
>  Phenomenon
>  quarterlife
>  Scrubs - it had a decent run and I think Zach was ready to leave. So no  
> tears
>  The Singing Bee
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Oopps - Subject Typo-- RE: Bale to Terminate Batman Times Three

[Lockhart, Daryle]

McG directing Christian Bale in a Terminator movie?

Either this is going to be the best thing ever or the worst thing on a  
screen since Episode 1.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 18:53:31 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> From: Tracey de Morsella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:52 PM
> To: 'scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: Bale to Terminate Batman Times Three
>
>
>
> Bale to Terminate Times Three
>
>
> Dark Knight star signed for Terminator trilogy.
>
>
> http://movies.ign.com/articles/875/875447p1.html
>
>
> by Brian Linder 
>
> starring in the upcoming Terminator franchise reboot. The Dark Knight  
> star
> is signed for an entire trilogy of flicks in which he'll play resistance
> leader John Conner.
>
> The producers of Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins, which has  
> already
> begun filming, revealed the scoop to BBC News.
>
> Producer Victor Kubicek said, "Christian was our first choice and he's a  
> big
> fan of The Terminator, so we're very lucky. But with Batman he's already
> done the whole franchise thing, so we weren't sure he'd respond."
>
> "Luckily," said The Halcyon Company's Derek Anderson, "he read the script
> and he loved it, so he's signed on for all three."
>
> There's no word on whether the other Terminator Salvation stars -- Sam
> Worthington, Anton Yelchin, Common, Moon Bloodgood -- will be reprising
> their roles in subsequent flicks.
>
> The next Terminator installment, directed by McG, will make its bow
> worldwide on May 22, 2009.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] $175 burger: you want gold with that?

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Only if I can get a $5 milkshake with it.


On Tue, 20 May 2008 16:55:54 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> (Enough of this Obama talk - lets talk about something REALLY
> important like...$175 hamburgers!)
>
> ~rave!
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080520/od_nm/hamburger_dc
>
> $175 burger: you want gold with that? By Daniel Trotta
>
> 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
>
> Its creators admit it is the ultimate in decadence: a $175 hamburger.
>
> The Wall Street Burger Shoppe just raised its price from $150 to
> assure its designation as the costliest burger in the city as
> determined by Pocket Change, an online newsletter about the most
> expensive things in New York.
>
> "Wall Street has good days and bad days. We wanted to have the
> everyday burger (for $4) ... and then something special if you really
> have a good day on Wall Street," said co-owner Heather Tierney.
>
> The burger, created by chef and co-owner Kevin O'Connell, seeks to
> justify its price with a Kobe beef patty, lots of black truffles,
> seared foie gras, aged Gruyere cheese, wild mushrooms and flecks of
> gold leaf on a brioche bun.
>
> The eatery sells 20 or 25 per month in the fine dining room upstairs
> versus hundreds of $4 burgers each day at the diner counter
> downstairs, Tierney said.
>
> Pocket Change previously designated the double truffle burger at
> Daniel Boulud's DB Bistro Moderne as the most expensive at $120, and
> the Burger Shoppe set out to top that.
>
> Boulud's creation -- available only during black truffle season from
> December to March -- rose to $150 this past season, so the Burger
> Shoppe raised its price on Monday to $175.
>
> "Our burger is not about the price," said Georgette Farkas, a Boulud
> spokeswoman. "If you are making something concerned only about the
> price, you are off in the wrong direction."
>
> Without truffles, Boulud's burger costs $32. It has a ground sirloin
> patty stuffed with red wine braised short ribs.
>
> O'Connell said the Burger Shoppe was "finding the ultimate expression
> of each one of the ingredients."
>
> "The concept was like a mushroom-bacon-Swiss cheese burger, which is
> my favorite sort of burger," he said.
>
> The burger comes with golden truffle mayonnaise, Belgian-style fries
> and a mixed greens and tomato salad. O'Connell pairs the dish with
> many fine wines, a lager or a toasted brown beer, or ginger ale.
>
>
> Copyright © 2008 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication
> or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without
> the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for
> any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in
> reliance thereon.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Please do not go out into public saying things like this.

Iraq HAD a government. We KILLED them. And replaced them with people WE  
WANTED there. Please go get a 4th grade history book and you will be  
reminded that this country was founded by insurgents. This is supposed to  
be a British colony.

On Tue, 20 May 2008 08:48:50 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Talking to insurgents that are not even recognize by the Iraq government  
> will
> not help the situation.



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Re: [scifinoir2] Success seems to have sped by 'Speed Racer'

[Lockhart, Daryle]

My son is a Speed Racer fan. Big time. We saw the movie and loved it. We  
watch the old 60's series on DVD at least twice a month on weekends. Love  
it. We saw this new "speed Racer", whatever it is...and we're treating it  
like Star Trek. We act like the latest series never happened and that the  
show ended with a movie that was not receieved well. But we will always  
have TOS...

Interestingly enough, he and his friends love the Iron Man animated  
series. I don't like it at all, there are too many wise cracks from Tony  
Stark for me.

Daryle

On Mon, 19 May 2008 13:38:42 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You definitely do not belong on Saturday Night Live.  You are too funny
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Martin
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:17 AM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Success seems to have sped by 'Speed Racer'
>
> Tracey, I saw the first ep, and I say this in reply.
>
> Jacqueline Susann said "Once Is Not Enough". She didn't see that ep...
>
> Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The one on Nick now is not good.  However, I could only get through about
>  five minutes.,   Has anyone else seen it?
> -Original Message-
>  From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:51 PM
>  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>  Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Success seems to have sped by 'Speed Racer'
> No, the one on Nick is brand new. The one I have on VHS is the original
>  Americanized version from the '60s. In between those two there was  
> another
>  Speed Racer that was horrible.
> -- Original message --
>  From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Oh so that isn't new? You are right, it is horrible
> -Original Message-
>  From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:53 AM
>  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Success seems to have sped by 'Speed Racer'
> In a message dated 5/18/08 1:25:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > I still love the classic old Speed Racer cartoon. I have about five
>  > videotapes, for ten eps total. They're still great, still funny. Of
>  course, I've
>  > only seen the Americanized, dubbed, cleaned up version. Never seen the
>  original
>  > anime with its greater violence and blood.
>  > There was a newer Speed Racer cartoon back in the 90s, I believe. It
>  sucked.
>  > This new 'toon, with Speed's son at a racing academy? Might be even
> worse.
>  >
> It does. Saw 3 eps of it on Nicktoons.
> -GTW
> **
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: `Star Wars' kid Abrams aims to reinvent `Trek' world

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Frakes directed Insurrection.

On Thu, 15 May 2008 19:39:49 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For me, First Contact was the best of the recent Trek movies.  They were
> never able to recapture the magic of that movie.  I wonder why they did  
> not
> bring Frakes back to do the two follow up movies
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of ravenadal
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:12 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: `Star Wars' kid Abrams aims to reinvent `Trek'
> world
>
> Which reminds me...I finally saw "Nemesis" on satellite this
> weekend.  It was a pleasant enough way to spend a Saturday morning at
> home with an open laptop, a tankard of coffee and my morning
> newspapers handy, but I would have been mad as heck if I had paid
> first run movie house prices to see it.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> i hear Nimoy was pleased, so I'll keep an open mind.
>> By the way, Mr. Abrams, it's "Trekkie", not "Trekker".
>>
>> -- Original message --
>> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_en_mo/film_star_trek
>>
>> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie WriterThu May 1, 7:28 AM ET
>>
>> J.J. Abrams grew up more a fan of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo than
> of
>> James Kirk and his Vulcan buddy Spock. So why is a self-professed
>> "Star Wars" kid directing "Star Trek"?
>>
>> "It was an opportunity to take what I think has been a maligned
> world
>> - to sound crass, a franchise - and treat it in a way that made it
>> something that I wanted to see," said Abrams, who recently finished
>> shooting on "Star Trek," due in theaters May 8, 2009. "To take the
>> characters, the thoughtfulness, the personalities, the sense of
>> adventure, the idea of humanity working together, the sense of
> social
>> commentary and innovation, all that stuff. To take it and apply it
> in
>> a way that felt genuinely thrilling."
>>
>> Abrams, creator of TV's "Lost" and "Alias" whose big-screen credits
>> include "Mission: Impossible III," shared some "Trek" thoughts with
>> The Associated Press in an interview to promote the DVD release of
> his
>> monster movie "Cloverfield."
>>
>> While he enjoyed the TV show about Capt. Kirk, First Officer Spock
> and
>> their Enterprise crew mates, Abrams said he was not a rabid fan.
>>
>> In this age of make-or-break opening weekends, the revival of the
>> franchise seven years after the last movie ("Star Trek: Nemesis")
>> flopped may depend on introducing a new generation to the exploits
> of
>> the 23rd century explorers rather than just hooking old fans.
>>
>> "The whole point was to try to make this movie for fans of movies,
> not
>> fans of `Star Trek,' necessarily,'" Abrams said. "If you're a fan,
>> we've got one of the writers who's a devout Trekker, so we were able
>> to make sure we were serving the people who are completely enamored
>> with `Star Trek.' But we are not making the movie for that
> contingent
>> alone.
>>
>> "You can't really make a movie for them. As soon as you start to
> guess
>> what you think they are going to want to see, you're in trouble. You
>> have to make the movie in many ways for what you want to see
> yourself,
>> make a movie you believe in. Then you're not second-guessing an
>> audience you don't really have an understanding of."
>>
>> After the 1960s TV show went off the air, it remained alive in
>> syndication, and the original cast led by William Shatner as Kirk
> and
>> Leonard Nimoy as Spock was reunited for six big-screen movies.
>>
>> Four more movies followed starring Patrick Stewart and the cast of
> the
>> 1980s and '90s update "Star Trek: The Next Generation," while the
>> "Trek" universe expanded to include three other TV series.
>>
>> Abrams' "Star Trek" takes the franchise back to its beginning, with
> a
>> young cast re-creating the Enterprise crew: Chris Pine as Kirk,
>> Zachary Quinto as Spock, Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy, Simon Pegg as
>> engineer Scott, John Cho as helmsman Sulu, Zoe Saldana as
>> communications officer Uhura and Anton Yelchin as navigator Chekov.
>>
>> "It's a chance to see what Kirk and Spock would look like done now,"
>> Abrams said. "What's thrilling about it is how great the cast is,
> how
>> remarkably talented and funny and just spot-on they all are."
>>
>> Nimoy also reprises his role as the older Spock, though Shatner -
>> whose Kirk was killed at the end of the seventh movie, "Star Trek:
>> Generations" - does not appear.
>>
>> Abrams would not share plot details, saying only that the movie
> would
>> remain faithful to the original while breaking new ground in action,
>> drama and visual effects, which are being crafted by "Star Wars"
>> creator George Lucas' Industrial Light and Magic outfit.
>>
>> "I feel like this is so unlike what you expect, so unlike the `Star
>> Trek' you've seen. At th

Re: [scifinoir2] Peter Fonda Joins SCI FI's Revolution Pilot

[Lockhart, Daryle]

So basically this show is "Earth 2 - part 2"? Instead of New Pacifica,  
it's New America? I'll give it a try,  but I dunno...given all the other  
show remakes, why not just fix 'Earth 2' and bring it back?

On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:39:11 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> nothing really much on the plot yet, but Fonda and the writing/producing  
> staff are pretty strong. Might be worth a look.  Wonder will this focus  
> on politics and such (building a new government, political struggles),  
> or be focused on dealing with Nature and aliens, disease and such?
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Fonda Joins SCI FI's Revolution
>
> Peter Fonda has joined the cast of SCI FI Channel's upcoming two-hour  
> pilot
> Revolution, about a planet colonized by humans, Mark Stern, executive  
> vice
> president of original programming, told SCI FI Wire.
>
> Oscar nominee Fonda plays the patriarch grandfather of the Hart family,
> which has taken over "New America," a planet 50 light-years from Earth.  
> The
> pilot also stars Billy Campbell, David Smith, Steve Sandvoss, Brooklyn
> Sudano and Rowena King.
>
> "Peter is going to be playing the role of Lawrence Fortis, who is the
> patriarch grandfather of the clan," Stern said at a press day in  
> Pasadena,
> Calif., earlier this month.
>
> Revolution is created and written by Ed Redlich (Shark, Without a Trace)  
> and
> John Bellucci (Jack and Bobby, Without a Trace), who will both serve as
> executive producers, along with executive producer Simon West (Lara  
> Croft,
> Tomb Raider) and co-executive producer Jib Polhemus for Simon West
> Productions. The pilot is from CBS Paramount Network Television.
>
> New America is a colony settled by the "United State of America" on a  
> planet
> resembling our own. The pilot centers on the Hart family, one of the
> founding families of New America.
>
> Fonda was nominated twice for an Academy Award and played Mephistopheles  
> in
> Ghost Rider, Pipeline in Escape From L.A. and Chuck Browning in  
> Futureworld.
> On TV, he was in Supernova and A Thief of Time. Fonda next appears in
> Journey to the Center of the Earth 3D this summer. --Mike Szymanski
>
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=53811
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Iron Man's suit: Can we build it?

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Looks like if we solve the "power source" problem, not only will this suit  
work, but the energy crisis will be over as well.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:06:57 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Well, if I can't have repulsors, fuggedaboutit. I've got people to  
> launch into the next season, and conventional weapons just won't cut  
> it...
>
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-iron-man-suit-photos,0,6455199.photogallery
>
> Iron Man's suit: Can we build it?
>
> By Julia Keller | Tribune critic
>
> Jet boots? Repulsor rays? Super-strong metal? Is it all just fiction? No.
>
> Constructing a superhero
>
> So you're a genius, and you have all the dough in the world, plus lots
> of time on your hands. Using existing technology, could you cobble
> together an Iron Man suit like the one Tony Stark makes in the movie?
> James Kakalios, a University of Minnesota physics professor (who may
> or may not sport a secret identity of his own --we're really not at
> liberty to say), has given it some thought. We've distilled his
> opinions. (Marvel / May 13, 2008)
>
> 1. CYBERNETIC HELMET? Sure.
>
> Voice-activation software is already available. But how about the hard
> part -- making a computer respond to thought commands, whether spoken
> aloud or not? A colleague of Kakalios' at the University of Minnesota,
> biomedical engineering professor Bin He, is hard at work on a device
> that uses an electroencephalograph (EEG) to pick up signals sent by
> the firing of neurons in the brain. Neurons create electrical
> currents, and those currents create electrical and magnetic fields.
> The EEG retrieves the signals and converts them into computer
> commands. Instead of flipping a switch, then, you can just think about
> what you want to do -- fire a weapon, say -- and the helmet takes care
> of the rest. In real life, Bin He's work is intended to benefit people
> with disabilities or prosthetic limbs. (Marvel / May 13, 2008)
>
> 2. POWER SOURCE? Um ... not so much.
>
> "There are ways of generating as much power as Tony Stark needs -- but
> not in a convenient, small form," Kakalios says. OK, smart guy: What
> about antimatter, long rumored as a potential source of endless,
> compact energy that won't contribute to global warming? For every
> particle of matter in the universe, there is an antimatter particle.
> When the particles meet, they become pure energy. Yet matter and
> antimatter are a bit like a couple after a nasty divorce: The moment
> they touch, it's instant annihilation. So how do you store the
> antimatter until you need it? Moreover, antimatter is not like oil or
> gas; it has to be produced in physics laboratories, and the energy
> required to produce it almost completely cancels out any energy
> benefit that might be derived from the antimatter. (Marvel / May 13,  
> 2008)
>
> 3. REPULSOR RAYS? Nope.
>
> It's that power thing again. If you want to send lightning bolts -- or
> laser beams, more likely -- shooting out of your palms, you have to
> carry along a power source big enough to generate them. To make a beam
> "powerful enough to melt a fist-size hole through a half-inch steel
> plate," Kakalios says, "would require an energy pulse of over 2
> gigawatts of power, greater than the output of a nuclear power plant."
> (Marvel / May 13, 2008)
>
> 4. JET BOOTS? Forget it.
>
> If we say "power" again, will you smack us with an extension cord?
> "Iron Man is out racing F-22 jet planes (as seen in this screen
> capture from a video game) -- but those jet planes have big wings
> filled with jet fuel," Kakalios notes. "He isn't carrying very much in
> the way of rocket fuel." Again, the challenge isn't so much how to
> create the power required to lift a human body off the ground and send
> it zipping through the clouds, but rather how to do so without lugging
> around a power plant on your back. (Marvel / Sega / May 1)
>
> 5. SUPER-STRONG METAL? Bingo.
>
> The U.S military is already experimenting with body armor -- called
> "exoskeletons -- that provide force amplification, Kakalios says.
> "They enable someone to lift 200 pounds as if they were lifting 20
> pounds." The drawback: "The exoskeletons I've seen," Kakalios
> cautioned, "have long power cords trailing behind them." As far as
> finding a material that would stand up to enemy attack, titanium --
> named for the Titans of Greek myth -- might do the trick. Titanium
> alloys, which resist corrosion, are used today for weapons and
> aircraft. Titanium is as strong as steel, with only about half the
> weight. That means a suit for a real-life Iron Man, Kakalios
> estimates, might only weigh about 150 pounds -- not a problem for a
> buff guy such as Stark. (Marvel / May 13, 2008)
>
>
>
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
>
> [Non-text portions of 

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Black is finally in fashion at Vogue

[Lockhart, Daryle]

1. "The Hip Hop and R&B Popoulation is a multi-billion dollar,  
multicultural market with a median age of around 30. The Hip Hop and R&B  
population includes people who  are in the market for yachts as well as  
people who are comparing health insurance providers for their families.  
Vibe is a magazine that needs to actually find its focus right now, but  
please don't marginalize hip-hop. I am of the true hip-hop generation, and  
I own Yamamoto, Armani, And Sean John suits. To  imply that  because I'm  
into a specific kind of music I have less taste or class is not just  
insulting, it's inaccurate.

2. From Wikipedia: "Vogue publishes a magazine based entirely on fashion,  
life and design." From that entry, you can find Caroline Weber's  
description of it from the New York Times in December, 2006: "Vogue is to  
our era what the idea of God was, in Voltaire’s famous parlance, to his:  
if it didn’t exist, we would have to invent it. Revered for its editorial  
excellence and its visual panache, the magazine has long functioned as a  
bible for anyone worshiping at the altar of luxury, celebrity and style.  
And while we perhaps take for granted the extent to which this trinity  
dominates consumer culture today, Vogue’s role in catalyzing its rise to  
pre-eminence cannot be underestimated."

This is not a magazine for the beautiful  upscale put together woman. It  
is a series of historical documents that will be part of many other  
documents that people in the future wil look back upon and judge us with.  
How do I know this?  because if you  want to  know what people did for a  
living in the 60s you look up documents to that  effect. If you  want to   
know what they  LOOKED LIKE, you  look up old magazines. THis is why   
EBONY magazine was so important, because before it was invented, You   
could look  back and assume taht "LIFE" magazine implied what all LIFE  
looked like. Which was mostly white. NOW you can look back and see that  
not only was Star Trek important, but that Nichelle Nichols was on Star  
Trek, and you can read an interview with her in her own words.

Vogue Magazine, and any magazine with a high ciurculation, has two  
responsibilities: one to its advertisers, and two to be accurate. In the  
case of Fashion magazines, in the 21st Century, there is no excuse. If  
General Motors and Proctor & Gamble can have ethnic peopole in THEIR ads,  
and they are selling stuff people actually USE, then surely these fashion  
brands can knock it off. The editorial staffs of these magazine must first  
make their magazine more reflective of the fantasy they are trying to   
sell. White women wish they  had Halle Berry's body  just as much as they  
wish they had Heidi Klum's. Thandie Newton looks great in Gucci. Alek Wek  
and Oluchi Onweagba have bodies that illustrate a designer's new dress  
just as well as Nadine Wolfbeisser or Victoria Wallace -- if not better!

It's easy to dismiss this as "it's just  fashion" --  believe me I  
understand -- but in many cases, it's not. It's culture. It's history.


On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:26:24 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In a message dated 5/14/2008 10:05:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Good question. The answer is: "Vogue" has a larger circulation than
> "Vibe." And so, if you're going to be the official documentation of
> fashion culture, having nothing but white people in your photo essays is
> Completely inaccurate. The fact is that until somebody Black, Brown, or
> Asian rocks your design, it's not hot.
>
> Vibe does not cater to everyone. They cater the hip hop and R&B  
> population.
> The urban market. That is very limiting. Vogue markets itself as the  
> magazine
> for the beautiful upscale put together woman.  It can add more non white
> models. However it is not going to add models that look as if they just  
> stared in a
> hip hop video. It does not matter the color of the model it is the image  
> that
> you portray. Just look at the models in Ebony and Essence. They have a  
> certain
> look. It has changed over the years. You will still not see a lot of  
> models
> with braids in there either.
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Black is finally in fashion at Vogue

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Good question. The answer is: "Vogue" has a larger circulation than  
"Vibe". And so, if you're going to be the official documentation of  
fashion culture, having nothing but white people in your photo essays is  
completely inaccurate. The fact is that until somebody Black, Brown, or  
Asian rocks your design, it's not hot. Fashion journalism is documentation  
of culture. And the TRUTH about the culture is that it is mad diverse.

The illusion of the white fashion ideal is something purposely being done  
by editors at magazines. Maybe not maliciously, but it is being done.

The big deal is history. Yes, there are little girls who look at Vogue and  
say "I want to look like that" but really they are saying " I want to live  
a glamourous lifestyle." There are enough movies that show that being a  
model is a crazy life choice now. in the 21st Century, that lifestyle is  
not exclusive to whites.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:31:58 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't see what the big deal is. If you look at black magazines, there  
> is a
> certian "look" You will not see many models that have dark skin or have
> braids. I don't seem to understand why people point the fingers at  
> whites.
>
>
>
>
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> favorites at AOL Food.
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>
>
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>



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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Black is finally in fashion at Vogue

[Lockhart, Daryle]

As if all the CNN transmissions they've been monitoring all these years  
wasn't enough.

On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:11:23 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Reason number 61 while the Vulcans haven't contacted us yet...
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Independent.co.uk
>
> Black is finally in fashion at Vogue
>
> By Ian Johnston and Photini Philippidou
> Sunday, 27 April 2008
>
> It's an open secret in the fashion industry: black models rarely get
> jobs on catwalks, in magazines and on billboards. According to
> executives, they do not inspire women to spend money.
>
> Apart from Naomi Campbell in one Louis Vuitton advertisement this
> season, it would be difficult to find a single black model in a
> prominent position in a magazine. Carole White of the Premier Model
> Agency says she has received casting briefs requesting "no ethnics"
> and adds: "According to magazines, black models don't sell."
>
> The leading British photographer Nick Knight says: "The fashion
> industry and the advertising industry are steeped in racism. You just
> have to look around at the number of black girls you see in ads –
> virtually nil. Among the main fashion brands, they are completely
> under-represented. It's shocking and atrocious."
>
> Mr Knight blames business people at the top of the industry. A common
> attitude among them, he says, is that black models are "not
> aspirational" or "don't sell in Asia". He goes on: "I have tried to
> redress the balance. It is enormously important to use black models
> and models of different ethnic backgrounds."
>
> Now a counterattack to the racism of the fashion industry is coming
> from an unlikely source: Vogue Italia. The July issue of the
> fearsomely cutting-edge quarterly will feature black models almost
> exclusively, shot by the photographer Steven Meisel.
>
> Franca Sozzani, editor-in-chief of Vogue Italia, told The Independent
> on Sunday: "We are using a lot of black models, like Iman, not only
> the models of today – a lot of different girls." Asked why she had
> decided to do this, she said: "Because nobody is using black girls. I
> see so many beautiful girls and they were complaining that they are
> not used enough."
>
> Ms Sozzani admitted the issue could yet prove to be unpopular among
> some in Italy, where the xenophobic Northern League is part of the
> new coalition led by Silvio Berlusconi: "Maybe in our country it is
> not the best idea. But I don't care. I think it is not my problem if
> they don't like it – it's their problem."
>
> Sarah Doukas, managing director of model agency Storm, says: "There
> has been frustration over the years from a lot of ethnic models,
> stylists and editors who have felt that they were not working as much
> as some of their Caucasian counterparts."
>
> But she added: "There has been a shift recently: supportive media
> coverage has had an impact on the fashion industry."
>
> Nick Knight welcomes the prospect of Vogue Italia's all-black edition
> but adds a note of caution: "I hope all the advertising goes in that
> issue."
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] The Electric Company Returns

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Hands down, the best TV related news I have heard all year.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 02:26:48 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> The Electric Company Returns
>
>
> Morgan Freeman, Spider-Man celebrate new job opportunity.
>
>
> by Travis Fickett 
>
> May 13, 2008 - Cue the "lights on" metaphors, because PBS is bringing The
> Electric Company back to television. The updating of the kids' classic,
> produced by the Sesame Workshop, will be aimed at 6 to 9 year olds. The
> series will once again focus on helping children learn - with a specific
> goal of increasing reading habits.
>
> The original series ran from 1971 to 1977 and featured a much younger  
> Morgan
> Freeman in a variety of sketches and vignettes, including playing  
> Dracula.
> No word yet on what future mega-star will take the role of host on the  
> new
> show. The original series also featured vignettes with Spider-Man, and  
> it's
> unclear whether Marvel Studios will be allowing their character to
> participate in the children's series.
>
> Variety reports the Sesame Workshops Scott Cameron as saying: "The  
> literacy
> crisis today is as pervasive and alarming as it was in 1971 when we  
> created
> the first version of The Electric Company. We know that if struggling
> readers don't get the literacy help they need by the end of second grade,
> they are in danger of never catching up."
>
> http://tv.ign.com/articles/873/873830p1.html
>
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Ledger's Joker Action Figures Sell Out In Minutes

[Lockhart, Daryle]

That employee of TRU obviously doesn't have an eBay account. You will be  
able to get one -- it will just cost you $300.


On Fri, 09 May 2008 15:04:40 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ledger's Joker Action Figures Sell Out In Minutes
>
> Batman fans have cleaned out New York toy stores' entire supply of Heath
> Ledger  's Joker action figure,  
> within
> minutes of them going on sale. Devotees of the comic book series lined up
> early to clear shelves of the $9.99 toy, which shows Ledger in his final
> completed role before his premature death in January from an accidental  
> drug
> overdose, aged just 29. An employee of Times Square's Toys R Us store  
> says,
> "There are none left in the warehouse. You will be waiting a while if you
> want one." Some fans are believed to be buying up stock, convinced the
> figure is a collector's item - others are selling them on auction
>
>
>
>
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[scifinoir2] "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins"

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I wish I could preface this with something witty and/or funny, but I  
cannot. Just click. WAIT. Sit DOWN. THEN Click.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/


Right. See?



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Re: [scifinoir2] Smallville's Big Chloe Problem

[Lockhart, Daryle]

What exactly is the criteria for a show to be cancelled these days? Eureka  
has basically become a totally different show, calling itself Eureka, and  
now Smallville's two most popular stars have left. My every sane  
definition, these shows are done. They have finished what they started.  
Why  continue something that you know to be broken,  when you can start  
something new that works?

On Fri, 09 May 2008 13:26:43 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It looks like  
> Smallville's about to take another, potentially lethal, hit.
>
> Just a week after it was announced
>  villes-Michael-Rosenbaum/800038719>  that Michael Rosenbaum would not be
> returning full time as Lex next season, sources confirm to me exclusively
> that Allison Mack  
>  ,
> arguably Smallville's most popular heroine, may be the next to go.
>
> This marks quite a turnaround from a few months ago, when I deemed Mack a
> lock    
> to
> come back next season. And I wasn't the only one. Although a deal wasn't
> signed at the time, Smallville insiders tell me that all indications were
> that the actress was on board for Season 8.
>
> But then Rosenbaum terndered his resignation and everything fell apart.
>
> "Allison's camp used Michael leaving as leverage in the negotiations with
> [Warner Bros.]," says one Smallville source, who adds that Kristin  
> Kreuk's
> decision to only return for a handful of episodes as Lana only  
> strengthened
> Mack's bargaining position. "They need Chloe now more than ever - and
> Allison's people know it." (Mack's reps declined to comment for this  
> story.)
>
> But will the studio suits budge? In this climate, with ratings down by
> double digits and belt-tightening going on everywhere, no one is  
> optimistic.
> However, everyone pretty much agrees about one thing: Smallville can't
> afford to lose Mack right now. "If Allison leaves, they've essentially  
> got
> Lois and Clark left," notes one insider. "And that show's been done  
> before."
>
> So, what do you think? Should Warner Bros. man up and give Mack what  
> she's
> probably been worth all along? Or are you OK with Smallville turning into
> Lois & Clark: The Early Years?
>
> http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report
> /Ausiello-Scoop-Allison/800039168
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: [natural-health-forum] Pollution may influence baldness, study says

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I have a full head of hair that grows really fast. I have been shaving my  
head on purpose for about a year now. I started because I had a white  
patch that was growing  really randomly and I didn't want to color my hair  
(I don't want to be that guy looking like he's hiding his age, I'd rather  
everything just turn white), and I have to say...I get nothing but  
positive feedback. My wife and daughter love it, and I think women who are  
not my wife and daughter like it as well. I don't understand why people  
feel like being bald is a bad thing. I guess because if I wanted to grow  
an Afro I could it's not the same thing as losing your hair,  but being   
bald,  especially now, doesn't seem to be a bad thing!



On Wed, 07 May 2008 08:16:23 -0400, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Baldness is caused by having more testosterone than all those hairy
> girly-men.
> (That is my story and I am sticking to it!)
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren
> Chandler
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:42 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [natural-health-forum] Pollution may influence baldness,
> study says
>>
>>
>>
>> Pollution may influence baldness, study says
>>
>>
>>
>> Pollution may be one factor in the onset of baldness, says a new
> study from
>> researchers at the University of London. Genetic factors are believed to
>> play the largest role in bringing about baldness, but men who live in
>> heavily polluted areas may experience hair loss sooner or more
> dramatically
>> than those in less polluted locales. The researchers found that
> carcinogens
>> and other chemicals in the air appear to be able to stop hair from
> growing
>> by blocking mechanisms that produce the protein hair is made from.
> "We think
>> any pollutant that can get into the bloodstream or into the skin and
> into
>> the hair follicle could cause some stress to it and impair the
> ability of
>> the hair to make a fiber," said Mike Philpott of the University of
> London's
>> school of medicine. "There are a whole host of carcinogens and
> toxins in th
>> e environment that could trigger this." Next up for study: Could
> bald heads
>> really be
>>
> > 50F7B533> solar panels for love machines?
>>
>>
>>
>> sources:
>>
> > 50F7B533> Daily Mail,
>>
> > 50F7B533> Telegraph
>>
>> from: grist.org
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: `Star Wars' kid Abrams aims to reinvent `Trek' world

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Recently, "Insurrection"  has been on cable, and I  watched it because it  
was on one of the HD channels. In my opinion, "Nemesis" is not better.  
"Nemesis" is pretty  bad. And even though "Insurrection" put us in the  
middle of a TNG episode with a race we never heard  of, it was still good  
ol' Star Trek. "Nemesis" could have been the greatest Trek movie of all  
time, because we'd all been waiting for a kick-ass Romulan fight, but then  
they throw this "Reman" stuff in and two sub plots that were completely  
unneccessary: the cloning of Picard and the discovery of a Data ptototype.  
For the EXACT same budget, they culd have told a story of the return of  
Lor and how he rallied a crew of Romulans to come for the Enterprise, and  
then it would have actually made sense to call the picture "Nemesis".

Insurrection, in retrospect, was a really good 8th season TNG episode, and  
is great to watch -- on TV. Had it been a two-parter on TV, I'd be talking  
about how great it was and it would be on my top 10 TNG episode list.

On Tue, 06 May 2008 23:12:19 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> well i paid full price to see "Nemesis", just as I've paid to see  
> *every* Trek movie that's ever come out. It was weak and disappointing.  
> only thing I can say is that it was better than "Insurrection".  I still  
> can't figure out who was smoking what when they wrote that script:  a  
> Romulan based on Picard's DNA. Why?  The android B4? Why? Why kill Data  
> only to basically recreate DAta in B4? Why was B4 lying out in the dirt  
> anyway?  A trap? Did you also notice the disturbing similarity of  
> "Nemesis" to "The Wrath of Khan?"  A guy with an old grudge, who's given  
> to making speeches, the space battle of the ships going toe-to-toe.  
> Seemed like a  major retread to me.
>
> As for being mad about wasting money. I went through a period years ago  
> when I was between jobs, hundreds of miles from family (and money!), had  
> just lost my car, so was on the bus, and was literally counting pennies  
> while job hunting. I actually spent the dough to catch two buses, then  
> walk half a mile to a theatre, so I could pay to see Star Trek V: The  
> Final Frontier! Talk about disappointed! And i did this on a Saturday  
> too. I was so bummed when I got home that day!
>
> My wife to her credit didn't give me grief about spending money to see  
> the movie, knowing what a Trekkie I am. That's why I'm still with this  
> lady...
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Which reminds me...I finally saw "Nemesis" on satellite this
> weekend. It was a pleasant enough way to spend a Saturday morning at
> home with an open laptop, a tankard of coffee and my morning
> newspapers handy, but I would have been mad as heck if I had paid
> first run movie house prices to see it.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> i hear Nimoy was pleased, so I'll keep an open mind.
>> By the way, Mr. Abrams, it's "Trekkie", not "Trekker".
>>
>> -- Original message --
>> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_en_mo/film_star_trek
>>
>> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie WriterThu May 1, 7:28 AM ET
>>
>> J.J. Abrams grew up more a fan of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo than
> of
>> James Kirk and his Vulcan buddy Spock. So why is a self-professed
>> "Star Wars" kid directing "Star Trek"?
>>
>> "It was an opportunity to take what I think has been a maligned
> world
>> — to sound crass, a franchise — and treat it in a way that made it
>> something that I wanted to see," said Abrams, who recently finished
>> shooting on "Star Trek," due in theaters May 8, 2009. "To take the
>> characters, the thoughtfulness, the personalities, the sense of
>> adventure, the idea of humanity working together, the sense of
> social
>> commentary and innovation, all that stuff. To take it and apply it
> in
>> a way that felt genuinely thrilling."
>>
>> Abrams, creator of TV's "Lost" and "Alias" whose big-screen credits
>> include "Mission: Impossible III," shared some "Trek" thoughts with
>> The Associated Press in an interview to promote the DVD release of
> his
>> monster movie "Cloverfield."
>>
>> While he enjoyed the TV show about Capt. Kirk, First Officer Spock
> and
>> their Enterprise crew mates, Abrams said he was not a rabid fan.
>>
>> In this age of make-or-break opening weekends, the revival of the
>> franchise seven years after the last movie ("Star Trek: Nemesis")
>> flopped may depend on introducing a new generation to the exploits
> of
>> the 23rd century explorers rather than just hooking old fans.
>>
>> "The whole point was to try to make this movie for fans of movies,
> not
>> fans of `Star Trek,' necessarily,'" Abrams said. "If you're a fan,
>> we've got one of the writers who's a devout Trekker, so we were able
>> to make sure we were serving the people who are completely enamo

Re: [scifinoir2] `Star Wars' kid Abrams aims to reinvent `Trek' world

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Depends on who ya ask. I've never been a Trekkie. I HATE that term. Always  
been a Trekker or "a Star Trek person".

On Tue, 06 May 2008 21:14:55 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> It changed back, Keith? A few years ago, I used "Trekkie" and got my  
> head bitten off by someone who *insisted* on "Trekker".
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear Nimoy was pleased, so I'll keep  
> an open mind.
> By the way, Mr. Abrams, it's "Trekkie", not "Trekker".
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "ravenadal"
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_en_mo/film_star_trek
>
> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie WriterThu May 1, 7:28 AM ET
>
> J.J. Abrams grew up more a fan of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo than of
> James Kirk and his Vulcan buddy Spock. So why is a self-professed
> "Star Wars" kid directing "Star Trek"?
>
> "It was an opportunity to take what I think has been a maligned world
> — to sound crass, a franchise — and treat it in a way that made it
> something that I wanted to see," said Abrams, who recently finished
> shooting on "Star Trek," due in theaters May 8, 2009. "To take the
> characters, the thoughtfulness, the personalities, the sense of
> adventure, the idea of humanity working together, the sense of social
> commentary and innovation, all that stuff. To take it and apply it in
> a way that felt genuinely thrilling."
>
> Abrams, creator of TV's "Lost" and "Alias" whose big-screen credits
> include "Mission: Impossible III," shared some "Trek" thoughts with
> The Associated Press in an interview to promote the DVD release of his
> monster movie "Cloverfield."
>
> While he enjoyed the TV show about Capt. Kirk, First Officer Spock and
> their Enterprise crew mates, Abrams said he was not a rabid fan.
>
> In this age of make-or-break opening weekends, the revival of the
> franchise seven years after the last movie ("Star Trek: Nemesis")
> flopped may depend on introducing a new generation to the exploits of
> the 23rd century explorers rather than just hooking old fans.
>
> "The whole point was to try to make this movie for fans of movies, not
> fans of `Star Trek,' necessarily,'" Abrams said. "If you're a fan,
> we've got one of the writers who's a devout Trekker, so we were able
> to make sure we were serving the people who are completely enamored
> with `Star Trek.' But we are not making the movie for that contingent
> alone.
>
> "You can't really make a movie for them. As soon as you start to guess
> what you think they are going to want to see, you're in trouble. You
> have to make the movie in many ways for what you want to see yourself,
> make a movie you believe in. Then you're not second-guessing an
> audience you don't really have an understanding of."
>
> After the 1960s TV show went off the air, it remained alive in
> syndication, and the original cast led by William Shatner as Kirk and
> Leonard Nimoy as Spock was reunited for six big-screen movies.
>
> Four more movies followed starring Patrick Stewart and the cast of the
> 1980s and '90s update "Star Trek: The Next Generation," while the
> "Trek" universe expanded to include three other TV series.
>
> Abrams' "Star Trek" takes the franchise back to its beginning, with a
> young cast re-creating the Enterprise crew: Chris Pine as Kirk,
> Zachary Quinto as Spock, Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy, Simon Pegg as
> engineer Scott, John Cho as helmsman Sulu, Zoe Saldana as
> communications officer Uhura and Anton Yelchin as navigator Chekov.
>
> "It's a chance to see what Kirk and Spock would look like done now,"
> Abrams said. "What's thrilling about it is how great the cast is, how
> remarkably talented and funny and just spot-on they all are."
>
> Nimoy also reprises his role as the older Spock, though Shatner —
> whose Kirk was killed at the end of the seventh movie, "Star Trek:
> Generations" — does not appear.
>
> Abrams would not share plot details, saying only that the movie would
> remain faithful to the original while breaking new ground in action,
> drama and visual effects, which are being crafted by "Star Wars"
> creator George Lucas' Industrial Light and Magic outfit.
>
> "I feel like this is so unlike what you expect, so unlike the `Star
> Trek' you've seen. At the same time, it's being true to what's come
> before, honoring it," Abrams said. "I can say the effects for `Star
> Trek' have never, ever been done like this. ... I can only tell you
> the idea of the universe of `Star Trek' has never been given this kind
> of treatment."
>
> Copyright © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The
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> authority of The Associated Press.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr Who versus Sarah Jane

[Lockhart, Daryle]

You can be Black and be on BBC, but there are rules.

You must be:

1) emotionless
2) first generation british (from African or Jamaican heritage)
3) have hair no longer than 1.5 inches long




On Mon, 05 May 2008 12:11:30 -0400, marian_changling  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh Lawd!  People would claim that the BBC was trying to
> (a) propagate a gay lifestyle (2 men!)
> (b) internationalize a profoundly British show ('cause Black folks
> can't be British!)
>
> On a serious note, it would be interesting where THAT companion would
> want to be taken.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> interesting take. So, i guess a tall, muscular Black man--straight
> at that--wouild never be his companion?  :)
>>
>
>





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[scifinoir2] Marvel follows up with the death blow (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

[Lockhart, Daryle]

source: marvel.com


This morning Marvel Studios announced four new films slated for 2010 and  
2011, including two Avengers-related movies!

With Iron man's cinematic debut currently blasting through box offices  
throughout the country, fans can expect a second film to hit theaters on  
April 30, 2010! And a few months later in July, the mighty Thor himself  
will wield his enchanted hammer across the big screen courtesy of director  
Matthew Vaughn!

Pumped yet? You should be—and you haven't heard the best part! The summer  
of 2011 will kick off in style with a Captain America movie, followed just  
two short months later with the July-debuting Avengers!

Want the very first looks at how the Marvel movie universe is already  
tying together? Be sure you stick to your seats until the very end of  
"Iron Man"—yes, all the way through the credits! There's an extra special,  
extra exciting, extra scene guaranteed to thrill!

Plus, as first revealed at New York Comic-Con 2008, catch Robert Downey,  
Jr.'s cameo as Tony Stark in "The Incredible Hulk," smashing into theaters  
on June 13!

That noise you hear in the background is the sound of Marvelites the world  
over rejoicing, True Believer! So get ready, because these next few years  
are going to be one heck of a good time!

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr Who versus Sarah Jane

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I think Helen Mirren's success sort of raised the idea that "true actors  
do BBC". Ian McDiarmid and Alexanger Siddiq have done "MI-5", and of  
course we all know about the Patrick Stewart episode of "Extras".

If only actors would think the same of PBS in America.

On Mon, 05 May 2008 11:03:56 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> good call!
> Dench has done serial TV, miniseries (including one that aired on  
> "Masterpiece" last night), plays, and movies.  I wonder if British  
> actors move between those world more than American stars? It's only been  
> in the last few years that movie stars have started coming back to TV.   
> It used to be taht TV was seen as a jumping-off point for the big  
> screen, but now HBO and other cable outlets have made TV drama more  
> respectable.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Lockhart, Daryle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>
>> Ah, so you watched that show too. Did you ever notice in "Tomorrow Never
>> Dies" where Geoffery Palmer plays Admiral Roebuck? I believe it's the  
>> only
>> other project he and Judid Dench have ever played together.
>>
>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:08:26 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> > I like McDonnell too, loved her in "Passion Fish", which,  
>> incidentally,
>> > starred Alfre Woodard.
>> > Was that series with Dench "As Time Goes By"?
>> >
>> > -- Original message --
>> > From: "Tracey de Morsella"
>> > I agree. My list of actresses in that category is similar. They are
>> > Dench,
>> > Alfre Woodward, Helen Mirren and Mary Mc Donnell, however Cicely and
>> > Felicia
>> > are favs too.
>> >
>> > IK first got hooked on Dench watching her in a BBC romantic comedy on
>> > PBS.
>> > The name escapes me
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>> On
>> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:14 PM
>> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr Who versus Sarah Jane
>> >
>> > she's one of the best, most engaging actresses around. Be it drama,
>> > action,
>> > light comedy on PBS, Dench always shines. I love watching her in  
>> anything
>> > she does. Helen Mirren is also like that for me, and a small number of
>> > other
>> > actresses: Alfre Woodward, Cicely Tyson in her prime, Felicia Rashad
>> >
>> > -- Original message --
>> > From: "Tracey de Morsella"
>> > I was thinking that I'd liked to see her as a companion. I love her  
>> as M
>> > in
>> > James Bond. I could see her bringing some of that attitude to the
>> > character
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>> On
>> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 4:44 PM
>> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr Who versus Sarah Jane
>> >
>> > actually, dude, Judi Dench as a dry-witted companion would be  
>> hilarious!
>> >
>> > -- Original message --
>> > From: Martin
>> > Come on, Keith, that's obvious.
>> >
>> > He 903 years old. We all know how those old guys get... ;D
>> >
>> > Seriously, in a real-world sense, it's ratings. Who would you tune in  
>> to
>> > watch as a companion- Judi Dench or Billie Piper?
>> >
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, Who fans, why does--or
>> > do--the
>> > Doctor(s) pick up single women all the time? Does the Doctor truly  
>> always
>> > accidentally bump into these women in time of danger and have to whisk
>> > them
>> > away? I know he must be lonely, so is it possible he seeks out  
>> travelling
>> > companions? Why young women primarily?
>> >
>> > -- Original message --
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > ha-ha, slow your roll! By "young women who shouldn't be near that
>> > danger", I
>> > mean young people who he just picks up and takes into a world for  
>> which
>> > they're unprepared. Sure they're tough and smart and plucky, but none  
>> of
>> > them exactly have

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr Who versus Sarah Jane

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Two dudes in a Tardis traveling through time and space is a one season  
show of 12 episodes, because the human dude is going to completely screw  
up the space/time continuum by falling in love with some girl in the year  
508302 and bringing her back to prehistoric Australia.




On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:09:20 -0400, marian_changling  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think that Martin is correct on the purely commercial site. Young
> women appear to the young men that the BBC saw as the core audience.
> Also, the character of the doctor started out as old to middle age.
> They needed someone younger in the series.  A young man presents
> father/son issues.  Adric was always competing against the doctor.
> Captain Jack saw himself as an equal.  They wanted someone culturally
> lower on the totem pole.  Alas, women have always filled that role.
> They are usually the ones who have to have everything explained to
> them; they serve as the surrogate for the audience.
>
> I really like the line that the writers are dancing.  They are
> allowing the doctor to be depend on the emotional intelligence of his
> companions, even as he remains the scientific core of the series.
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> By the way, Who fans, why does--or do--the Doctor(s) pick up single
> women all the time? Does the Doctor truly always accidentally bump
> into these women in time of danger and have to whisk them away? I
> know he must be lonely, so is it possible he seeks out travelling
> companions? Why young women primarily?
>>
>> -- Original message --
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ha-ha, slow your roll! By "young women who shouldn't be near that
> danger", I mean young people who he just picks up and takes into a
> world for which they're unprepared. Sure they're tough and smart and
> plucky, but none of them exactly have training, do they? Heck, most
> of the time they're not even allowed to use the tech the Doctor has
> at his disposal. I say "women" because that's all he gets. If the
> Doctor took young men, old men, whatever, I'd say the same thing:
> it's rather odd how he keeps picking up inexperienced people for
> travelling companions.
>>
>> -- Original message --
>> From: "marian_changling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I had not heard that. But I have a U.S. ip address. I know that some
>> BBC sites block based your originating web site. The British list
> that
>> I subscribe to doesn't mention that rumor, but maybe it will show up
>> in the next few days. Interesting. I had always heard that he walked
>> away in an effort not to be typecast.
>>
>> As a side note, a quick google shows that he was here in New Orleans
>> filming a movie in 2006. That would have caused a double-take on my
>> part, to walk into the Doctor when I walked to lunch.
>>
>> And hey--what's the meaning of "young women, who frankly, shouldn't
> be
>> anywhere near such danger"? I'm middle-aged now, but I still recall
>> my fury and being told that 'girls don't behave like that'. Don't
> put
>> us in a box, sir. We want adventure also.
>>
>> (marian)
>>
>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
>> >
>> > I think that harder edge you mention is what I miss sometimes. Dr.
>> Who can be wild, sometimes silly fun. the Doctors--the recent ones,
> at
>> least--are always cracking jokes in the midst of danger. They come
> and
>> run around time and space with young women, who, frankly, shouldn't
> be
>> anywhere near such danger. They fight all kinds of goofy-looking
>> creatures. But then, you get these moments of deep angst or danger:
>> the Dalek war with the Time Lords, the spirit of the Tardis
>> manifesting itself and taking over Rose, the look on the Doctor's
> face
>> (Eccleston) when the death of his people are mentioned. Eccleston
> was
>> just perfect to let those moments of sadness, anger, or even rage
>> shine through. Like the new guy too, just liked Eccleston a bit
> better.
>> >
>> > I heard the other day on a show Eccleston was let go from the
> part.
>> I originally thought he chose not to continue in the role. Which is
> it?
>> >
>> >
>>
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>>
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Daryle Lockhart
Daryle Lockhart, Ltd./Defiant Pictures
"We can'

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr Who versus Sarah Jane

[Lockhart, Daryle]

y come and
> run around time and space with young women, who, frankly, shouldn't be
> anywhere near such danger. They fight all kinds of goofy-looking
> creatures. But then, you get these moments of deep angst or danger:
> the Dalek war with the Time Lords, the spirit of the Tardis
> manifesting itself and taking over Rose, the look on the Doctor's face
> (Eccleston) when the death of his people are mentioned. Eccleston was
> just perfect to let those moments of sadness, anger, or even rage
> shine through. Like the new guy too, just liked Eccleston a bit better.
>>
>> I heard the other day on a show Eccleston was let go from the part.
> I originally thought he chose not to continue in the role. Which is it?
>>
>>
>
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>
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> organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A
> Country"
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Re: [scifinoir2] Iron Man 2 in 2010

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Agreed.  Me either. I almost read that last one, not remembering the  
rumors taht  had been flying around.  Talk to you  all tomorrow!

On Fri, 02 May 2008 16:53:04 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am booked for 9:30pm me and my kid...I have not done a first weekend  
> in years...but I am so hyped that I am not reading anymore posts for  
> Iron Man tonight.
>
> peace
>
> Bree
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Tracey de Morsella
> Date: Friday, May 2, 2008 4:44 pm
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Iron Man 2 in 2010
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>
>> No one is surprised about this announcement are they?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Iron Man 2 in 2010
>>
>>
>> Paramount big cheese talks sequels.
>>
>>
>> by Orlando Parfitt, IGN UK
>>
>>
>>
>> UK, May 2, 2008 - The first movie has only just hit theatres,
>> but already
>> the money men behind Iron Man are considering when to release a
>> sequel.
>>
>> Brad Grey, the big cheese at Paramount, told U.S. showbiz series
>> Entertainment Tonight that assuming the first film makes a whole
>> heap of
>> money, he sees no reason why the second shouldn't come out in
>> the same week
>> in two years time (7th May 2010).
>>
>> Now assuming release schedules stay the same, this would put the
>> film up
>> against The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn
>> Treader, which is
>> pencilled to open in the same week.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Obama Mashup: The Empire Strikes Barack

[Lockhart, Daryle]

wow, that was fast! it's down already!

Daryle


On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:21:14 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Remember Baracky? (If you don't, too bad; MGM had it removed last week.)
> Well, the creators have found another movie through which to promote the
> pro-Obama narrative. Watch it before George Lucas does!
>
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/02/obama-mashup-the-empire-s_n_99827.h
> tml
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blake's 7 Return

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Well, remember...we never saw Avon get shot!

There  have, of course, been a few theories as to what happened to the  
crew in the end, and this has always lent itself to the idea that Blake's  
7 doesn't really have to be the same people, and as you see from the last  
season, you don't even need Blake. I  think, however, that you need Avon's  
presence somehow, and Paul Darow agrees.


Daryle

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:18:19 -0400, maidmarian_thepoet  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh wow--I still remember watching this series.  And the
> ending!  "Forever Knight"'s end was almost a tribute to the end of the
> Blake's 7 series.  How on earth are they going to restart this one?
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Blake's 7 poised for Sky comeback
>> A new remake of sci-fi series Blake's 7 could soon return to
> television
>> screens, Sky One has revealed.
>
>


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when we created them." -- Albert Einstein



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Re: [scifinoir2] Paltrow explains why she did ‘Iron Man’

[Lockhart, Daryle]

People saw "Shallow Hal" and Shakespeare In Love, what Robert probably  
SAID was "Don't you want to  make a movie people will actually see...and  
remember...get paid in real money for it?"


On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:30:01 -0400, brent wodehouse  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24359915/
>
> Paltrow explains why she did ‘Iron Man’
>
> Actress says Downey Jr. convinced her to do film ‘people actually see’
>
> Access Hollywood
>
> April. 28, 2008
>
>
> LOS ANGELES - They’ve opened the movie around the world and now the stars
> of “Iron Man” are gearing up for the film’s US release, this Friday.
>
> The summer’s first potential blockbuster stars Robert Downey Jr. as the
> Iron Man, and drama-film darling Gwyneth Paltrow as his love interest,
> Christine Everhart. Taking on the role puts Paltrow in some illustrious
> company - Nicole Kidman, Halle Berry, Jennifer Garner, Kirsten Dunst and
> Kate Bosworth, all of whom have played superhero leading ladies.
>
> While the part is something new for Paltrow, she was convinced to take it
> on after her leading man suggested she break out of the art film market.
>
> ”(Robert) was very sweet when he called me, and I think we had both kind
> of been doing these kind of labor of love art films that had been seen by
> like 16 people, and he said to me ‘Don’t you wanna be in a movie that
> people actually see?’” Paltrow recounted. “And I thought ‘I never thought
> of that!’ So, I’m really, really glad that I did it.”
>
> Thanks to the joys Paltrow experienced making the film and the enthusiasm
> already surrounding it, she is looking forward to, perhaps, a sequel.
>
> “I [am] so happy people are loving it, and getting so excited about it,
> but the truth is that the experience was so wonderful, and such a happy,
> happy time. That’s really why I’m so happy that I did it,” she said. “The
> idea that there could be another one, and we could get our little family
> back together - it would be great.”
>
> Another thing Paltrow is excited over is Hollywood employing herself, Liv
> Tyler and Maggie Gylenhaal in this summer’s biggest action films - “Iron
> Man,” “The Incredible Hulk” and “Batman: The Dark Knight,” respectively.
>
> “What’s nice is that the three of us are, not to say other people aren’t,
> but we’re really committed to our work as actors,” Paltrow said. “I think
> we’ve all come from a lot of independent cinema, we come from a kind of
> different world. I think it’s very cool that we’re being embraced by
> mainstream Hollywood in that way because they could easily cast
> 18-year-old girls, who are more attractive, and had lovelier busts than
> us. I think it says a lot for the movies that they wanted women who are
> interesting, and who are from more kind of the more independent world.”
>



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Re: [scifinoir2] Which Summer Blockbuster do you want to see more?

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Yeah, the Tony Stark cross over is going to be really interesting to me,  
because I think at this point we should be seeing "Avegngers" movies so  
that we can just start  telling better stories with these characters.  
What's sad is that there's a Punisher movie coming  and nobody  even cares.

I saw the revised cartoon, well, part of the first episode.  It's like how  
you used to have had to do a breakfast cereal for a hit movie, I guess you  
have to do a cartoon as well. I have all the original series episodes on  
DVD, and my son has been schooling his friends when they come over by  
showing them. It's really funny watching 4-6 year olds sitting staring at  
the screen in amazement at animation that looks like filmation by  
comparison to what we're used to now.

As for the shop, I am, as of now, totally out of the comic book retail  
business.



On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:32:40 -0400, Tracey de Morsella  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is so cool, they have me in kente and scarab (sp) earrings.  Alas it  
> is
> in storage in Texas, but we plan on retrieving all our stuff soon.  It's  
> one
> of my favorite pictures.  When we get it back, I will scan it and send  
> it.
>
> Regarding Speed Racer, I'm not excited about it, but I agree that it's  
> going
> to be a hit and my daughter is going to force me to see it often.  So,  
> your
> merchandising prediction is spot on.  Has anyone seen the cartoon.  I  
> tried
> getting into it using on-demand but only lasted about 5 minutes. That did
> not use the Japanese style of drawing and I had adjustment problems.  By  
> the
> way, they added a Black side-sick.
>
> By the way, I kept hearing there were movie cross-overs but I did not  
> know
> it was going to be Stark.
>
> I'm so sorry to hear about your store.  Are you totally out of the  
> business
> now?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Daryle Lockhart
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:49 AM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Which Summer Blockbuster do you want to see  
> more?
>
> All those who want to see the drawing of Trace with Racer X join me
> with raised hands.
>
> My son and his friends are usually my barometer for which summer
> property has the most merchandising legs. It's Speed Racer -- hands
> down. I don;t  know why Pixar is wasting their time with Wall-E.
> Speed Racer is going to be the biggest movie nobody is going to admit
> to seeing. I'm personally charged and can't wait to see the Mach 5's
> redesigned steering wheel. I have read the movie adaptation. Just
> forget the cartoon you've seen and enjoy the action. I actually think
> this movie is going to be great fun, but remember - the cartoon had
> bizarre dialogue, so the movie only takes that and turns it up.
>
> Count me in for Iron Man, and I expect to be mad at the complete
> marginalization of Rhodes' character. but I need to see this suit
> design in action for my own sanity.
>
> I will also be one of the 12 people on opening day to see "Hulk"
> because I really like the director's work --AND the fact that Robert
> Downey Jr is playing Tony Stark in this movie. Just a cameo, I'm
> sure, but I really like this idea, and think that it should be done
> more often.
>
> As an aside, due to a bad economy and my own non willingness to "ride
> it out until the market turns around", I have sold my store location,
> and closed my comic book retail business. I really wanted to see if
> this summer's movies resulted in increased book sales,  but business
> was really tough, so my hats off to the shops who are able to turn
> this summer into cash! The great part about this is that I get to  go
> see this summer's movies as a fan without having to think about
> merchandising.
>
> On Apr 28, 2008, at 12:32 AM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:
>
>> Saw this poll on scifi. Which Summer Blockbuster do you want to see
>> the
>> most? Will you be passing on any?
>>
>> Indiana Jones
>>
>> Iron Man
>>
>> Incredible Hulk
>>
>> Dark Knight
>>
>> Speed Racer
>>
>> I have a picture of me and racer X drawn by some cartoonists who
>> use to work
>> for me, so that should give you some idea of how much I liked Speed
>> Racer as
>> a kid, but I'm not feeling Speed Racer. I really want to. What is
>> really
>> haunting me is Heath Ledger's Joker. I know people said it was
>> cruel when
>> it was alleged that he took his character development too far with the
>> Joker, but from the trailers I've seen, he gave a legendary
>> performance that
>> eclipse Joker and is Oscar worthy. I've never been that big of an
>> Iron man
>> fan, but For some reason, I'm drawn to Robert Downey Jr.'s
>> performances, so
>> I think I will be checking this one out too. I'm not looking
>> forward to a
>> Hulk reboot, but again, I'm drawn to Edward Norton's performances
>> as well,
>> so That is a DVD rental. Despite a good cast, without Connery or John
>> Rhys-Davies, I can't seem

Re: [scifinoir2] Dolphin dies after collision during Sea World trick

[Lockhart, Daryle]

That's why they end up  leaving us before the Vogons make way for the  
bypass.

So long and thanks for all the fish indeed.

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:04:21 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Just heard about this. So danged sad. Didn't deserve to go out trying to  
> make stupid hew-mons laugh
>
> Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:  
> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/04/28/dolphin.death/?imw=Y
>    > &iref=mpstoryemail
> CNN) -- A 30-year-old dolphin at Sea World has died after colliding with
>  another dolphin while performing aerial tricks, the Orlando, Florida,
>  amusement park said Monday.
> The incident occurred about 4:30 p.m. Saturday at the Discovery Cove  
> area of
>  the park, according to a statement by Sea World spokeswoman Becca Bides.
> The animals were in the center of the lagoon and not near guests, she  
> said.
> The dolphin who died was named Sharky. The other dolphin, Tyler, is being
>  watched by veterinarians but appears to be fine, Bides said.
> "This is an unfortunate, random incident," Bides said in a written
>  statement.
> "While it is not unusual to have two animals performing aerial behaviors  
> at
>  the same time, we are reviewing the situation to ensure even such a  
> random
>  incident does not occur again."
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will  
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man  
> Without A Country"
> -
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Re: [scifinoir2] Black 7 Return

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Somehow I missed this on Thursday. It's funny, now that Star Trek is no  
longer an issue, all sorts of things can be done in Science fiction  
television. I hope they can do the same for this as BBC has done for Dr.  
Who.

Daryle

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:01:45 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Blake's 7 poised for Sky comeback
> A new remake of sci-fi series Blake's 7 could soon return to television
> screens, Sky One has revealed.
> The satellite channel has given the green light for the development of  
> two
> 60-minute scripts for a "potential event series".
> Blake's 7, which originally ran on BBC One between 1978 and 1981,  
> followed a
> gang of rebels fighting an evil federation that ruled the galaxy.
> It is not yet known if and when production on the series will begin.
> "The time is ripe for a revival of a show that represents the best  
> traditions
> of the genre, not to mention one of the best-loved and most successful  
> dramas
> of all time," Elaine Pyke, commissioning editor for drama at Sky One,  
> Two and
> Three, said.
> Sky is working alongside Blake's 7 Productions, a subsidiary of Blake's 7
> Media who owns the licence to the show.
> The planned new episodes would follow recent re-workings of other sci-fi
> shows Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica and Bionic Woman.
> The original Blake's 7 series featured Gareth Thomas as lead character  
> Roj
> Blake and Paul Darrow as cynical-but-charming computer fraudster Kerr  
> Avon.
> In 2003 Darrow was involved in plans to make a new TV mini-series, but it
> fell through.
> A series of Blake's 7 radio dramas featuring Colin Salmon and Daniela  
> Nardini
> were broadcast last year on BBC7.
>
>
>
> **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used  
> car
> listings at AOL Autos.
> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
>
>
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[scifinoir2] [OT but worth it] NAD Tells Wal-Mart to Stop Savings Claim

[Lockhart, Daryle]

NAD Tells Wal-Mart to Stop Savings Claim
Found That $2,500 Figure Did Not Require Shopping at Chain
By Jack Neff

Published: March 31, 2008

BATAVIA, Ohio (AdAge.com) -- Wal-Mart should discontinue the implied  
advertising claim that consumers can save $2,500 annually by shopping  
there, the National Advertising Division of the Council of Better Business  
Bureaus recommended in a statement today.

The claim was part of the "Save Money. Live Better" ad campaign by  
Interpublic Group of Cos.' Martin Agency, Richmond, Va., that launched  
last year, early executions of which said, "Wal-Mart saves the average  
family $2,500 per year."

Wal-Mart, in an Advertising Age story on the claim in November,  
acknowledged that people don't need to shop at the retailer to realize the  
savings. The $2,500 figure came from 2005 and 2007 studies by the  
economics consulting firm Global Insight that found the very presence of  
Wal-Mart in a geographic market accounted for the savings, as competitors  
also cut prices in response to arrival of the discount retailer's stores.

Claim still on website
Wal-Mart has since dropped the claim from TV and magazine ads, though it  
remains on the retailer's website. A spokeswoman said Wal-Mart has  
modified the website to make it clearer that people need not necessarily  
shop at Wal-Mart to get the $2,500 in savings.

"We're pleased the NAD found the express claim was supported," she said.  
"Our intended message was substantiated."

Several media reports on the Wal-Mart campaign last year said people get  
the $2,500 savings by shopping at the retailer. And the NAD in its  
statement said the implied claim in the ads was precisely that: "Families  
that shop at Wal-Mart will save $2,500 per year more than families [that]  
shop at other stores."




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[scifinoir2] [sorta-OT] iCarly iis TV/Web Hit Thanks to UGC

[Lockhart, Daryle]

The trend is quickly becoming to break a show online and NOT on TV. Here's  
a case study on how a show that nobody was watching on TV became a hit.  
Network 23 is full effect, y'all. "U.G.C.", by the way, is short for User  
Generated Content. U.G.C. used to be called L.A.Z.Y., but that was too  
long to type.


iCarly Is TV/Web Hit Thanks to UGC
March 31, 2008
Mike Shields

Most of the thousands of amateur talents who post videos online are  
unlikely to see their work displayed anywhere other than YouTube. But now  
kid performers regularly have a real shot at their 15-seconds of fame,  
thanks to Nickelodeon. And in the case of iCarly, user-generated content  
is helping to drive a hybrid TV/Web hit.

The tween-targeted show, which stars Amanda Cosgrove as a girl who  
produces her own popular Webcast, has seen its online audience surge  
alongside its ratings since its premiere last September. iCarly.com  
accounted for a whopping 20 percent of Nick.com’s traffic in February,  
when the site drew 2.7 million unique users, up 24 percent versus January,  
according to Nickelodeon’s numbers.

Margie Cohn, Nick’s exec vp of original programming and development, said  
that for a single series to garner one fifth of the site’s traffic— 
particularly a live action show—is no small feat, considering Nick.com  
reaches over 8 million unique users. “It’s pretty astounding,” she said.  
“It’s really about the kind of show it is.”

Indeed, the kind of show it is—a Web show within a TV show—is key to  
iCarly’s multiplatform success. The show’s stars regularly implore kids to  
visit iCarly.com, where there is a regular slate of original video  
content. “We’re not doing supplemental programming,” explained Cohn.  
“There is a pitch and catch between the show and the Web. iCarly.com is  
basically an extension of what we are.”

Plus, as much as any show on TV, kids are encouraged to contribute their  
own content to iCarly. To date, Nickelodeon has received close to 100,000  
videos from kids—many of the goofy talent variety (girl takes glasses off  
with feet). Some of these clips are broadcast during episodes as part of  
Carly’s fictional Webcast.

Todd Krieger, senior vp at Publicis’ Denuo, predicted that iCarly’s open  
philosophy regarding UGC could set a precedent, particularly for  
Nickelodeon’s parent company. “It will be really interesting to see what  
will happen in two to three years,” he said.

“Will MTV be able to capture those kids? You don’t see this kind of  
programming yet. In the future, is iCarly something they will look at and  
say, ‘we need to do more of this’?”

Re: [scifinoir2] Pegg Plays Scotty in `Star Trek' Movie, Up to Star in 3 Potential "Trek" Movies

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Two MORE Star Trek films? set PRE-TOS? So we're all  supposed to pretend  
the whole show never happened? By the time THREE of these movies are done  
it will be 2013!! We will NEVER pick up  where the stories left off. I   
knew this was a bad idea to do a prequel.

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:53:54 -0400, brent wodehouse  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g7_I0u8-HMjQlYSyy7nbsTu0CVogD8VKJ7L81
>
> Pegg Plays Scotty in `Star Trek' Movie
>
> By DERRIK J. LANG - 1 hour ago
>
>
> LOS ANGELES (AP) - Simon Pegg won't be beaming up any differences for his
> take on starship Enterprise's chief engineer "Scotty" in the upcoming
> "Star Trek" film.
>
> "I am playing `Scotty,' but James Doohan is `Scotty,'" Pegg told The
> Associated Press at the "Run Fatboy Run" premiere afterparty at Les Deux
> nightclub Monday night.
>
> Doohan played "Scotty" in the '60s TV series and in several movies.
>
> "I tried to approach the role like he did. He's a Scottish engineer who
> works in outerspace. He's a bit of a brawler. I didn't try to facilitate
> change," the 38-year-old British actor said.
>
> In "Run Fatboy Run," which opens Friday, Pegg wears short-shorts as an
> fumbling Londoner who begins training for a marathon to impress his ex.
>
> He's more coy about what his Montgomery "Scotty" Scott will look like in
> the J.J. Abrams-directed "Star Trek," expected on the big screen next  
> year.
>
> "I couldn't possibly tell you what I wear in `Star Trek,'" Pegg said.
>
> Pegg said he finished shooting the film, which stars Chris Pine as Capt.
> James T. Kirk and Zachary Quinto as Spock, last week. Pegg said he's
> signed up to star in three potential "Trek" movies.
>
> "I'm looking forward to doing that for the next few years," he said.
> "Hopefully, I'll do a lot in between, too."
>
> Other celeb attendees at the "Run Fatboy Run" premiere included Pegg's
> co-stars Thandie Newton, India de Beaufort and Harish Patel; Oscar winner
> Diablo Cody; Jemaine Clement and Bret McKenzie of HBO's "Flight of the
> Conchords"; and John Krasinski, Eddie Izzard and Jonathan Silverman.
>
> On the Net:
>
> * "Run Fatboy Run": http://www.runfatboyrunmovie.com/
>
>




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Re: [scifinoir2] Children of Men Comes To TV

[Lockhart, Daryle]

"so bad it was funny" = the episodes with Isiah Washington.

"so bad I could cry" = all dialogue with Katie Sackhoff.

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:31:17 -0400, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Which raises an obvious question. Was there any point at which it was
> so bad it was funny or was it just network stank?
>
> B
> --- "Lockhart, Daryle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> That one line you just wrote about the bionic goldfish IDEA was
>> beter
>> written than every episode of The new Bionic Woman show.
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:23:26 -0400, Bosco Bosco
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Amazing. I might actually watch an episode based on the idea that
>> it
>> > was actually worse than the original.
>> >
>> > I'm gonna write a show about a bionic goldfish now.
>> >
>> > B
>> > --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bosco, three words.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, it was.
>> >>
>> >> Isiah Washington, the one decent thing about the entire
>> production,
>> >> was utterly wasted.
>> >>
>> >> Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>  I didnt watch the Bionic Woman. Was it actually worse than the
>> >>  original. I would think there could be no way that would be
>> >> possible.
>> >>  Given the guys done okay things with BSG, I would think there's
>> at
>> >>  least a 10% chance this won't make me gnaw my own heart out in
>> >>  protest.
>> >>
>> >>  Bosco
>> >>  --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>> >>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  > After seeing what Eick did to Bionic Woman, I'm terrified
>> >> They
>> >>  > are
>> >>  > going to destroy a classic
>> >>  >
>> >>  > Daryle Lockhart wrote:
>> >>  > > It's time once again to play "Ruin That Sci-Fi idea"!
>> today's
>> >>  > contestant
>> >>  > > is: Sci Fi Channel!
>> >>  > >
>> >>  > > How many episodes will it take for SFC to ruin THIS idea?
>> >>  > >
>> >>  > > I have money on... one. Anybody else?
>> >>  > >
>> >>  > >
>> >>  > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:23:27 -0400, Tracey de Morsella
>> >> (formerly
>> >>  > Tracey L.
>> >>  > > Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>  > >
>> >>  > >
>> >>  > >> Eick Adapts Children For TV
>> >>  > >>
>> >>  > >> Bionic Woman executive producer David Eick told SCI FI
>> Wire
>> >> that
>> >>  > he's
>> >>  > >> working on a pilot script for a proposed TV series based
>> on
>> >>  > Children of
>> >>  > >> Men, P.D. James' SF novel, which also inspired Alfonso
>> >> Cuaron's
>> >>  > 2006
>> >>  > >> film of the same name.
>> >>  > >>
>> >>  > >> "It's really taking root more in the origins of the novels
>> in
>> >>  > that it
>> >>  > >> will focus on the cultural movement in which young people
>> >> become
>> >>  > the
>> >>  > >> society's utter focus," Eick (Battlestar Galactica) said
>> in
>> >> an
>> >>  > interview
>> >>  > >> at SCI FI Channel's upfront presentation to advertisers in
>> >> New
>> >>  > York on
>> >>  > >> March 18. "Much like our culture, whenever Lindsay Lohan
>> does
>> >>  > something
>> >>  > >> [and] it becomes the headline of every news show, it's
>> about
>> >>  > how, when
>> >>  > >> you don't have a responsibility to the next generation and
>> >>  > you're free
>> >>  > >> to do whatever you want, where do you draw the line?"
>> >>  > >>
>> >>  > >> Eick added that Children of Men will question how society
>> >>  > defines
>> >>  > >> responsibility, freed

Re: [scifinoir2] Children of Men Comes To TV

[Lockhart, Daryle]

That one line you just wrote about the bionic goldfish IDEA was beter  
written than every episode of The new Bionic Woman show.

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:23:26 -0400, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Amazing. I might actually watch an episode based on the idea that it
> was actually worse than the original.
>
> I'm gonna write a show about a bionic goldfish now.
>
> B
> --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Bosco, three words.
>>
>> Yes, it was.
>>
>> Isiah Washington, the one decent thing about the entire production,
>> was utterly wasted.
>>
>> Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  I didnt watch the Bionic Woman. Was it actually worse than the
>>  original. I would think there could be no way that would be
>> possible.
>>  Given the guys done okay things with BSG, I would think there's at
>>  least a 10% chance this won't make me gnaw my own heart out in
>>  protest.
>>
>>  Bosco
>>  --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  > After seeing what Eick did to Bionic Woman, I'm terrified
>> They
>>  > are
>>  > going to destroy a classic
>>  >
>>  > Daryle Lockhart wrote:
>>  > > It's time once again to play "Ruin That Sci-Fi idea"! today's
>>  > contestant
>>  > > is: Sci Fi Channel!
>>  > >
>>  > > How many episodes will it take for SFC to ruin THIS idea?
>>  > >
>>  > > I have money on... one. Anybody else?
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:23:27 -0400, Tracey de Morsella
>> (formerly
>>  > Tracey L.
>>  > > Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >> Eick Adapts Children For TV
>>  > >>
>>  > >> Bionic Woman executive producer David Eick told SCI FI Wire
>> that
>>  > he's
>>  > >> working on a pilot script for a proposed TV series based on
>>  > Children of
>>  > >> Men, P.D. James' SF novel, which also inspired Alfonso
>> Cuaron's
>>  > 2006
>>  > >> film of the same name.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> "It's really taking root more in the origins of the novels in
>>  > that it
>>  > >> will focus on the cultural movement in which young people
>> become
>>  > the
>>  > >> society's utter focus," Eick (Battlestar Galactica) said in
>> an
>>  > interview
>>  > >> at SCI FI Channel's upfront presentation to advertisers in
>> New
>>  > York on
>>  > >> March 18. "Much like our culture, whenever Lindsay Lohan does
>>  > something
>>  > >> [and] it becomes the headline of every news show, it's about
>>  > how, when
>>  > >> you don't have a responsibility to the next generation and
>>  > you're free
>>  > >> to do whatever you want, where do you draw the line?"
>>  > >>
>>  > >> Eick added that Children of Men will question how society
>>  > defines
>>  > >> responsibility, freedom and a sense of values when it doesn't
>>  > >> necessarily believe humans will survive as a species. "So
>> it's a
>>  > very
>>  > >> compelling, I think, human question that science fiction has
>>  > always
>>  > >> explored extremely provocatively," he said. "It's not really
>> a
>>  > war show
>>  > >> like the movie was. It's more an exploration of that issue."
>>  > >>
>>  > >> Eick is writing Children of Men now, even as he closes out
>> SCI
>>  > FI
>>  > >> Channel's original series Battlestar Galactica and prepares
>> for
>>  > >> production on SCI FI's recently green-lighted prequel series
>>  > Caprica.
>>  > >> Eick's Bionic, meanwhile, has been canceled by NBC. (NBC is
>>  > owned by NBC
>>  > >> Universal, which also owns SCI FI Channel and SCIFI.COM.)
>> --Ian
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Re: [scifinoir2] "Street Fighter" cast gets Kreuk, Klein

[Lockhart, Daryle]

When you're starting from "We'd rather you forgot that this already  
failed..." you are doomed.

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:23:03 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> "Producers would rather you forgot 1994's "Street Fighter"..."
>
> No problem there. I'll be forgetting this one too, proactively.
>
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
> www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-street-fighter-cast_pmar21,1,6816178.story
>  chicagotribune.com
> "Street Fighter" cast gets Kreuk, Klein
> March 21, 2008
>  Click here to find out more!
> Watch out, Superman. Lana Lang is squeezing into some tights of her own.
> Kristin Kreuk, whoplays the love interest of a young Man of Steel on
>  The CW's "Smallville," has been cast as Chun-Li (pictured at left),
>  the fast-kicking, high-flying star of the upcoming "Street Fighter:
>  The Legend of Chun-Li."
> The film is based on the immensely popular video game from Capcom.
>  (Producers would rather you forgot 1994's "Street Fighter," the Jean
>  Claude Van Damme film panned by critics and gamers alike.)
> Few details about the new film are available, except that it is built
>  around an ensemble cast but will focus on, well, the legend of Chun-Li.
> According to her IMDB biography, the Indonesia-born Kreuk is of
>  Chinese and Dutch ancestry and has a purple belt in karate.
> Other cast members include Neal McDonough as the villain M. Bison,
>  Michael Clarke Duncan as boxer Balrog, the Black Eyed Peas'Taboo as
>  Vega and Chris Klein as Charlie Nash.
> Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune
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Re: [scifinoir2] Iron Man and X-Men Return to TV

[Lockhart, Daryle]

The bad TV lover in me is excited to see how badly they  destroy Iron Man.  
I actually  bought the Fantastic Four DVDs. They are horribly written but  
I must watch.

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:37:39 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> agreed. I feel the same way about theatrical movies centred around only  
> Logan or Magneto. That waters down the group dynamic and diversity that  
> makes the X-Men so exciting.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> While Wolverine was one of my favorite characters, I do not like the
>> idea of a whole series focused on him. I realize they are doing it to
>> maximize the impact of the franchise but, doing so could severely
>> diminish the quality of the show if you ask me.
>>
>> Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote:
>> > Iron Man and X-Men Return to TV
>> > Cable network gears up for mighty Marvel mayhem with mutants and  
>> machines.
>> > by Travis Fickett
>> > http://tv.ign.com/articles/860/860844p1.html
>> >
>> > March 19, 2008 - It was only a matter of time before The X-Men and
>> > Wolverine returned to animated television, and with an Iron Man movie
>> > coming to theaters, a series based on the character is now fait  
>> accompli
>> > as well. Enter the Nicktoons Network, who is bringing the marvel
>> > properties to the air in two new series, Wolverine and the X-Men and
>> > Iron Man: The Animated Series.
>> >
>> > According to the Hollywood Reporter, both shows have a series  
>> commitment
>> > of 26 episodes, set to debut in the first quarter of 2009. Each show
>> > will consist of half hour episodes. No comment yet from the other  
>> X-Men
>> > about the clear preference given to Wolverine in the title.
>> >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic gives ITV2 record ratings

[Lockhart, Daryle]

LOL...I love it. So then maybe Fox in the US should have a show starring  
Paul Darrow and it will be a big hit!

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:44:14 -0400, Brent Wodehouse  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And from the Mirror World...
> ---
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7292135.stm
>
> Bionic gives ITV2 record ratings
>
>
> The first episode of US TV drama The Bionic Woman has given ITV2 its
> largest ever audience, initial figures suggest.
>
> The show, starring former EastEnders actress Michelle Ryan, was watched  
> by
> an average of 2.2 million viewers, according to overnight figures.
>
> The digital channel's previous best was 1.9 million viewers for
> Footballers' Wives: Extra Time in 2005.
>
> But the remake of the 1970s favourite is expected to be axed by US  
> network
> NBC after just one series.
>
> The first episode was a hit in the US, attracting 13.9 million viewers
> when it made its debut in September.
>
> But it has since suffered in the ratings. Only eight episodes were aired
> before the writers' strike affected production and it has yet to be
> recommissioned.
>
> The show's UK debut at 2100 GMT on ITV2 beat Channel 4's The Woman Who
> Stops Traffic, which attracted 736,000 viewers.
>
> BBC One's Hotel Babylon was the most watched programme at that time, with
> five million viewers.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Dolphin rescues stranded whales

[Lockhart, Daryle]

Something tells me the masters of humanity are the dolphins and whales.

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:40:23 -0400, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> A little interspecies cooperation...wonder if the Masters of Humanity  
> were paying attention.
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: See the video
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/nz.whales.ap/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
>
>
> WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP)  -- A dolphin swam up to two distressed
> whales that appeared headed for death in a beach stranding in New
> Zealand and guided them to safety, witnesses said Wednesday.
>
> The actions of the bottlenose dolphin -- named Moko by residents who
> said it spends much of its time swimming playfully with humans at the
> beach -- amazed would-be rescuers and an expert who said they were
> evidence of the species' friendly nature.
>
> The two pygmy sperm whales, a mother and her calf, were found stranded
> on Mahia Beach, about 500 kilometers (300 miles) northeast of the
> capital of Wellington, on Monday morning, said Conservation Department
> worker Malcolm Smith.
>
> Rescuers worked for more than one hour to get the whales back into the
> water, only to see them strand themselves four times on a sandbar
> slightly out to sea. It looked likely the whales would have to be
> euthanized to prevent them suffering a prolonged death, Smith said.
>
> "They kept getting disorientated and stranding again," said Smith, who
> was among the rescuers. "They obviously couldn't find their way back
> past (the sandbar) to the sea."
>
> Along came Moko, who approached the whales and led them 200 meters
> (yards) along the beach and through a channel out to the open sea.
>
>   "Moko just came flying through the water and pushed in between us and
> the whales," Juanita Symes, another rescuer, told The Associated Press.
> "She got them to head toward the hill, where the channel is. It was an
> amazing experience. The best day of my life."
>
> Anton van Helden, a marine mammals expert at New Zealand's national
> museum, Te Papa Tongarewa, said the reports of Moko's rescue were
> "fantastic" but believable because the dolphins have "a great capacity
> for altruistic activities."
>
> These included evidence of dolphins protecting people lost at sea, and
> their playfulness with other animals.
>
> "We've seen bottlenose dolphins getting lifted up on the noses of
> humpback whales and getting flicked out of the water just for fun," van
> Helden said.
>
> "But it's the first time I've heard of an inter-species refloating
> technique. I think that's wonderful," said van Helden, who was not
> involved in the rescue but spoke afterward to Smith.
>
> Smith speculated that Moko responded after hearing the whales' distress
> calls.
> advertisement
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> "It was looking like it was going to be a bad outcome for the whales ...
> then Moko just came along and fixed it," he said. "They had arched their
> backs and were calling to one another, but as soon as the dolphin turned
> up they submerged into the water and followed her."
>
> After the rescue, Moko returned to the beach and joined in games with
> local residents, he said.
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[scifinoir2] hulu.com - 250 TV shows and movies online

[Lockhart, Daryle]

http://www.hulu.com/browse/genre/tv

Check the genre page of Hulu.coma LOT of shows we've been talking  
about are here. It will be very difficult to convince certain people (like  
me) to watch Network TV this summer.



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[scifinoir2] LATimes: Hollywood's endangered entrepreneurs

[Lockhart, Daryle]

[source:  
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/movies/la-et-goldstein11mar11,0,040.story
  
]


With the demise of New Line's Bob Shaye, is the last of the old guard  
being pushed aside?
By Patrick Goldstein, THE BIG PICTURE
March 11, 2008

IT'S hard to imagine New Line Cinema without Bob Shaye, its prickly  
paterfamilias. The company is being absorbed into Time Warner's Warner  
Bros. film division, with Shaye and most of the employees being cast  
adrift. Long after he'd sold his company in 1993, Shaye continued to treat  
New Line as his personal mom-and-pop movie store.

During the company's "Lord of the Rings" heyday, Shaye would host a  
pre-Oscar party at his stylish home off Mulholland Drive. One night I  
found myself chatting with the New Line founder when one of his aides  
scurried over, eyes bright with big news. Shaye's then boss, Time Warner  
chieftain Richard Parsons, had arrived. "Shall I bring him over?" the aide  
asked breathlessly.

Irritated at being interrupted, Shaye waved him away, saying, "He can  
wait."

As the curtain rings down on New Line, a bigger question remains: Is there  
still room for entrepreneurs in today's corporate entertainment business?  
One thing seems certain. The new breed of entrepreneur will look very  
different from the generation that produced Shaye and others like him.

Rumpled and shaggy, rarely seen in a business suit, Shaye was unimpressed  
by the corporate pashas who run today's media conglomerates. Shaye tended  
to trust his own instincts, sometimes for the best -- being the only  
person in Hollywood willing to let Peter Jackson make his "Lord of the  
Rings" trilogy -- and sometimes for the worse, hastening his demise by  
ducking out last year to direct a flop ("The Last Mimzy") at a time when  
New Line was in a downward spiral.

Most of the stories about New Line's demise last week focused on the  
company's recent string of failures. But New Line left us with an  
impressive body of work because it was run by an entrepreneur always  
willing to roll the dice. Aided by his longtime production chief, Michael  
DeLuca, who left the studio in 2001, Shaye helped create the modern-day  
comedy business, making stars out of Jim Carrey ("The Mask"), the Farrelly  
brothers ("Dumb and Dumber"), Mike Myers ("Austin Powers"), Chris Tucker  
("Rush Hour") and Will Ferrell ("Elf").

New Line championed a host of young African American talent, making such  
films as "Menace II Society," "Set It Off" and the "Friday" series. It  
also showcased the work of such daring filmmakers as John Waters, Robert  
Altman, Terrence Malick and Paul Thomas Anderson.

Never blessed with the glad-handing skills of Harvey Weinstein, Shaye  
drove Anderson away by trying to edit his last film, got sued by Jackson  
over profits from "Rings," alienated the Farrellys and lost most of his  
comedy stars to bigger studios who offered higher salaries and fewer blunt  
Shaye-style critiques of their work.

STILL, historians will look back at the last few years as a pivotal moment  
in the movie business. Shaye was the last of Hollywood's true  
owner-entrepreneurs, bowing out just two years after DreamWorks' founders  
sold their studio to Viacom and three years after Harvey and Bob Weinstein  
were forced out of Miramax after years of battles with the studio's Disney  
owners.

In a way, Shaye's struggles with Time Warner weren't so different from  
David Geffen's spitting match last summer with Sumner Redstone or the  
Weinsteins' bickering with then Disney czar Michael Eisner. Entrepreneurs  
often have seller's remorse -- just ask Ted Turner, the colorful creator  
of CNN, who fumed for years after selling his company to Time Warner in  
1996. (Shaye would probably still be around if Turner, who bought New Line  
in 1993, hadn't sold his empire to Time Warner.) When you've built  
something from the ground up, it's hard to take orders from a corporate  
overlord whose priorities involve schmoozing stock analysts and boosting  
quarterly earnings.

"New Line was always an extension of Bob's own passions and desire," says  
Brett Ratner, who made five films at the studio, including the "Rush Hour"  
series. "At other studios, I deal with people who have to report to GE or  
Time Warner, but at New Line, if I wanted an actor and the money wasn't in  
the budget, I'd just call Bob and it was either yes or no. I was asking  
the guy who bought the first pencil at the company. You felt like you were  
making a movie for Jack Warner or Sam Goldwyn. The company had a face, and  
it was Bob's."

A business of constant change, show business rewards new energy and fresh  
ideas. In the record business, the original label founders have all cashed  
out. The new entrepreneurs are often performers themselves, with hip-hop  
artists like Jay-Z, Dr. Dre, 50 Cent and Eminem leading the way, having  
turned themselves into brands far more familiar than the faceless  
conglomerat

Re: [scifinoir2] A new, gun-toting Captain America

[Lockhart, Daryle]

I just caught up with Cap (and the rest of Marvel) on what became a 10  
hour flight last night. Captain America is a great, great comic right now.  
I dare say killing off Steve was the best thing for this story. I read  
bunch of Marvel stuff, and for as much as I didn't see how  it would play  
out...the Registration Act storyline has brought Marvel BACK! Even Bad  
Fantastic Four issues (as the current one is) are great because you're  
more invested in the characters.

Speaking of Skrulls, even She-Hulk was more enjoyable to read. I'm not  
sure I dig what Hudlin is doing with the Skrulls in Black Panther, but at  
least they're there, which  makes it interesting.



On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:18:27 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cap's comic has been really good for a while now. Go back and find the  
> whole "Winter Soldier" storyline that helped bring this along. The  
> action is good, i love the art work, and Bucky, the Skull and others are  
> cool. By making the Black Widow front and center they've brought back  
> that Cold War spy novel feeling. Even the Falcon's interesting in this  
> book! And Tony Stark--whom some may "boo hiss!" because of his role in  
> bringing about the new world of the Superhuman Registration Act--is  
> portrayed in an interesting mannger. He keeps fighting his guilt over  
> the battle with STeve and Steve's death, but still doing what he thinks  
> is right in bringing on this near police-state. Really fun stuff.
> And in April, all of Marvel gets rocked with "Secret Invasion", wherein  
> we'll find out how many Skrulls have been impersonating superheroes,  
> supervillains, and people in positions of power, and for how long. From  
> what the Marvel guys are saying, it's huge!
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From March 6, 2006 issue of Rolling Stone:
>
> Metaphors for the effects of the Bush Presidency on the American
> spirit don't get any harsher than this one: Last year, Captain
> America, who had been fighting Nazis, supervillians and sometimes his
> own government in the pages of Marvel comic books since 1941, was shot
> dead.
>
> And now, in the series' latest sign of the times, a new, more morally
> compromised character has taken over the stars-and-stripes uniform:
> Cap's former kid sidekick, Bucky, who spent a few years as a
> brainwashed Russian assassin and is now a gun-toting killer.
>
> Ed Brubaker, the former indie-comics writer who's been working on
> Captain America since 2004, sees his riveting version of the comic as
> an "espionage thriller." "It's not meant to be totally reflective of
> the American psyche," he says. "But at the same time, I'm part of the
> American psyche, so maybe there is something of that seeping out there."
>
> In an even more directly relevant plot line, longtime CAp villain the
> Red Skull is now the head of a multinational corporation - and he's
> aiming to destroy the country by foreclosing on mortgages and driving
> up oil prices. Brubaker has been hoping to do that storyline ever
> since the Enron scandal. "How much of our country are we giving away
> to these vast corporations that have no one to answer to at all!" he
> says. "If there's any politics of my own in the book, it's that part."
>
>
>
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