[scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ââ¬Ë The Incredible Hulk ââ¬â¢ A rep for Norton responded to the statement
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the chance to use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get something approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film and rom-com circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not a thing at all against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching the same old people. One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I get to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't recognize a single actor in The Secret in Their Eyes, which helped me really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out Winter's Bone, which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm really psyched about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix
[scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
Ruffalo might be a good choice. He and Downey were great together in Zodiac. I plan on seeing Winter's Bone too but our arthouse still isn't showing it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the chance to use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get something approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film and rom-com circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not a thing at all against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching the same old people. One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I get to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't recognize a single actor in The Secret in Their Eyes, which helped me really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out Winter's Bone, which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm really psyched about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
You live in Austin? Surprised it hasn't reached there yet. It came to Atlanta last weekend. I want to catch it before it's gone. I'll mix it with a standard H'Wood movie for contrast this weekend; probably The Karate Kid for simple fun, then delay Inception until next weekend. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:26:23 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Ruffalo might be a good choice. He and Downey were great together in Zodiac. I plan on seeing Winter's Bone too but our arthouse still isn't showing it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the chance to use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get something approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film and rom-com circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not a thing at all against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching the same old people. One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I get to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't recognize a single actor in The Secret in Their Eyes, which helped me really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out Winter's Bone, which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm really psyched about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun
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I'm not seeing this guy as the Hulk but I guess we'll have to wait and see. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America
[scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick
I'm in Des Moines. Neither of the local arthouse theaters is showing it. Maybe next week. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: You live in Austin? Surprised it hasn't reached there yet. It came to Atlanta last weekend. I want to catch it before it's gone. I'll mix it with a standard H'Wood movie for contrast this weekend; probably The Karate Kid for simple fun, then delay Inception until next weekend. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:26:23 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Ruffalo might be a good choice. He and Downey were great together in Zodiac. I plan on seeing Winter's Bone too but our arthouse still isn't showing it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the chance to use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get something approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film and rom-com circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not a thing at all against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching the same old people. One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I get to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't recognize a single actor in The Secret in Their Eyes, which helped me really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out Winter's Bone, which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm really psyched about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged
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He wouldn't be my first choice but he's a damned good actor. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: I'm not seeing this guy as the Hulk but I guess we'll have to wait and see. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce
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Oh, okay, guess that explains it? I don't know much about Des Moines. How'd you end up there? Atlanta is a very cool city in terms of getting cool cultural things. Very vibrant indie, African-American, Jewish, female, and gay scenes mean a lot of great plays and film festivals come this way. I can remember seeing films like Like Water for Chocolate, Blue Velvet, and Robocop at indie theatres here, back before they had mainstream releases. All were actually treated as indie films on first release. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:22:18 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I'm in Des Moines. Neither of the local arthouse theaters is showing it. Maybe next week. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: You live in Austin? Surprised it hasn't reached there yet. It came to Atlanta last weekend. I want to catch it before it's gone. I'll mix it with a standard H'Wood movie for contrast this weekend; probably The Karate Kid for simple fun, then delay Inception until next weekend. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:26:23 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Ruffalo might be a good choice. He and Downey were great together in Zodiac. I plan on seeing Winter's Bone too but our arthouse still isn't showing it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the chance to use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get something approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film and rom-com circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not a thing at all against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching the same old people. One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I get to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't recognize a single actor in The Secret in Their Eyes, which helped me really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out Winter's Bone, which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm really psyched about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played
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Which explains why all 3 of those films were unique and hits. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Oh, okay, guess that explains it? I don't know much about Des Moines. How'd you end up there? Atlanta is a very cool city in terms of getting cool cultural things. Very vibrant indie, African-American, Jewish, female, and gay scenes mean a lot of great plays and film festivals come this way. I can remember seeing films like Like Water for Chocolate, Blue Velvet, and Robocop at indie theatres here, back before they had mainstream releases. All were actually treated as indie films on first release. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:22:18 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I'm in Des Moines. Neither of the local arthouse theaters is showing it. Maybe next week. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: You live in Austin? Surprised it hasn't reached there yet. It came to Atlanta last weekend. I want to catch it before it's gone. I'll mix it with a standard H'Wood movie for contrast this weekend; probably The Karate Kid for simple fun, then delay Inception until next weekend. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:26:23 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Ruffalo might be a good choice. He and Downey were great together in Zodiac. I plan on seeing Winter's Bone too but our arthouse still isn't showing it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the chance to use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get something approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film and rom-com circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not a thing at all against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching the same old people. One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I get to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't recognize a single actor in The Secret in Their Eyes, which helped me really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out Winter's Bone, which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm really psyched about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comscifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner
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We moved here 5 years ago for a job transfer and we like it a lot. We have two great arthouse theaters, The Fleur which is practically around the corner from my house and the Varsity. The Fleur has been playing The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo to huge crowds on one of it's screens so it's pushed the schedule back. TGWTDT, Harry Brown and The Secret In Their Eyes just finished multi-week runs so hopefully we'll get Winter's Bone in the next week or so. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Oh, okay, guess that explains it? I don't know much about Des Moines. How'd you end up there? Atlanta is a very cool city in terms of getting cool cultural things. Very vibrant indie, African-American, Jewish, female, and gay scenes mean a lot of great plays and film festivals come this way. I can remember seeing films like Like Water for Chocolate, Blue Velvet, and Robocop at indie theatres here, back before they had mainstream releases. All were actually treated as indie films on first release. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:22:18 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I'm in Des Moines. Neither of the local arthouse theaters is showing it. Maybe next week. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: You live in Austin? Surprised it hasn't reached there yet. It came to Atlanta last weekend. I want to catch it before it's gone. I'll mix it with a standard H'Wood movie for contrast this weekend; probably The Karate Kid for simple fun, then delay Inception until next weekend. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:26:23 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Ruffalo might be a good choice. He and Downey were great together in Zodiac. I plan on seeing Winter's Bone too but our arthouse still isn't showing it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the chance to use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get something approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film and rom-com circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not a thing at all against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching the same old people. One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I get to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't recognize a single actor in The Secret in Their Eyes, which helped me really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out Winter's Bone, which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm really psyched about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't
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I'm not gonna sue you, rave. Just look at you reeally strangely for the next six to eight weeks... Martin (David Spade Hater since David Spade first appeared in public) On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward
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You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here
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Yeah, yeah, yeah - buh-bye! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: I'm not gonna sue you, rave. Just look at you reeally strangely for the next six to eight weeks... Martin (David Spade Hater since David Spade first appeared in public) On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From â The Incredible Hulk â A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy
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(removing the strange look advisory now) [?] On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, yeah, yeah - buh-bye! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: I'm not gonna sue you, rave. Just look at you reeally strangely for the next six to eight weeks... Martin (David Spade Hater since David Spade first appeared in public) On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return
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Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From â The Incredible Hulk â A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble cast. However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week
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I *really* don't see Spade! Next you'll be recommending Rob Schneider or (shudder!) Paulie Shore! :( - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:10:58 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we
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I have no issue with comedic actors though, since H'Wood is replete with comedians who turned out to be amazing dramatic actors: Whoopi Goldberg, Robin Williams, Richard Pryor (who never got a vehicle to showcase how could he could have been dramatically), etc. Many people probably don't know that Eric Bana is really an accomplished comedian with a background that's more reminiscent of old vaudeville than what we see in America nowadays. Movies like the first Hulk, Syrianna, Troy, etc., coupled with his physique and looks, have him labeled as a serious/romantic actor, but comedy is his first gig. Hugh Jackman is the same way. A tall, buff, handsome guy who quickly gets considered for action/dramatic/romantic roles, he's an accomplished song-and-dance man like those of old. I guess I can see why so many Aussie and Brit actors get work in America: it seems more of them still come from the old school systems where they're expected to do plays and learn a bunch of skills for stage as well as just screen. It's why the likes of Patrick Stewart or others can fluidly move from drama to comedy, futuristic scifi to period pieces, TV to movies to one man shows on stage. In America, so many of the up-and-comers want to be famous instantly, they try to jump immediately to movies. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:24:28 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I *really* don't see Spade! Next you'll be recommending Rob Schneider or (shudder!) Paulie Shore! :( - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:10:58 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out on a limb and thought David Spade. (So sue me). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul who worked very well as Banner in the series. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need
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Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From â The Incredible Hulk â A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble cast. However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi Beyond ! Marvel
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Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart dar...@... So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward
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Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ââ¬Ë The Incredible Hulk ââ¬â¢ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy
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How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been in discussions to return to the role. This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light, the rep told the site. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He
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Wow, thanks for the correction! Is the book any better? Like I said, I've never been a fan, and the whole Red Hulk and Son of Hulk storylines haven't drawn me in at all. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:17:25 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it purposefully misleading and claiming that his client had been
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Dude, he would be freaking awesome as Banner! I wonder if the suits would think he looks too creepy, like Phoenix? He'd meet the criteria for this new edgy Banner Brent mentioned. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:41:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ A rep
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This is inspired casting. Jackie Earle Haley can be self-effacing and even sweet-natured and you can believe this monster resides within him. Haley looks like a Herb Trimpe character. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: How about Jackie Earle Haley? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some fighting skills. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Thanks for the update. Though snarky, isn't Banner still frail and weak looking? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be awesome. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. What's up with Banner's behaviour? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for Avengers Flick Keith, if they want flavor-of-the-week, Michael Cera would be a great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games with everyone around him. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: They need to quit worrying about name actors and just get an actor who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the puny Banner we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother on Two and A Half Men. Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. - Original Message - From: Daryle Lockhart daryle@ So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. * On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's The Avengers, a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a statement to HitFix . VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,' Feige told the site. Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the coming weeks. The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert Downey Jr. ( Iron Man ), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), Chris Evans (Captain America: The First Avenger), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson ( Iron Man 2's Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero roles in team-up film The Avengers. VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From âââ¬ÃÅ The Incredible Hulk âââ‰â¢ A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling
