RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-02-05 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I do not think you were doubting him.  My husband is not an insider.   He
has just taken consulting gigs there for the past 15 years, while it
provides him with insight, believe me he would be the first to admit he does
not know about much that goes on there.  The reason that I want to ask his
friend, is because if 8 is coming out soon, than that might indicate a
problem.  I would like to know before I upgrade all our computers to 7

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:16 PM
To: SciFiNoir2
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



Not doubting him or you at all, Tracey. Sorry if it seemed that way. My only
exposure to M$-based product is what I fall across in sites and such. I've
stripped my system of everything M$-based that I could and maintain
functionality.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:38:44 -0800
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

  

 

My husband says it is not true.  He plays music with some guy who is way up
the food chain.  I'm going to ask him

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:19 PM
To: SciFiNoir2
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



Didn't Windows 7 just roll out the door? Why would there be such a rush to
push the next version out, even with competition being what it is?

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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Baxter

Myself, I'm seriously looking into going Mac, rather than dealing with M$'s 
crap.
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-02-05 Thread Mr. Worf
I'm going to mac expo next week. That's how serious I am about jumping ship.
The only thing that I enjoy on the pc is the free stuff and the games at
this point.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Myself, I'm seriously looking into going Mac, rather than dealing with M$'s
 crap.


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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Baxter

That's about it for me as well, Mr Worf. The only thing that keeps me from 
being a Mac user NOW is that echo inside my wallet.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:35:12 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release


















 



  



  
  
  I'm going to mac expo next week. That's how serious I am about jumping 
ship. The only thing that I enjoy on the pc is the free stuff and the games at 
this point. 


On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Myself, I'm seriously looking into going Mac, rather than dealing with M$'s 
crap.
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-02-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Same here. In doing job searches, I see a lot of jobs requiring Mac experience, 
primarily at colleges. But, with over a decade as a network admin, most of my 
experience has been with Windows, so I have to keep those skills up first and 
foremost. But, the need to learn Mac, coupled with my *desire* to learn Mac 
stuff, is on the agenda. Like you, it's the ducats at the moment standing in 
the way. I'm going to shell out a bit of dough to buy/build another desktop or 
two. 
Thank goodness I can learn Linux for free! :( 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 5:41:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release 






That's about it for me as well, Mr Worf. The only thing that keeps me from 
being a Mac user NOW is that echo inside my wallet. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com 
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:35:12 -0800 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release 




I'm going to mac expo next week. That's how serious I am about jumping ship. 
The only thing that I enjoy on the pc is the free stuff and the games at this 
point. 



On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@hotmail.com  
wrote: 





Myself, I'm seriously looking into going Mac, rather than dealing with M$'s 
crap. 



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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-02-01 Thread Martin Baxter

Anywhere here in the Atlanta area?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 02:00:09 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release


















 



  



  
  
  
There are places you can get an OEM copy of XP, so that if your laptop has a 
valid Microsoft license affixed, you can load the OEM copy.

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:22:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release








 



  



  
  
  


I'm not ina  rush for the upgrade either, Tracey. I've been on XP since I got 
this laptop back in '06, but I'll definitely have to go up when D.X. here gives 
up the ghost, unless I luck out and find a place that carries XP on disc for me 
to roll back to.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:54:14 -0800
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release


















 



  



  
  
  








I used to recruit for them back in  the day. Back then they had
a very high retention rate.  Until the sky fell last year, I was left with a
similar impression, but it could be just senior and middle level managers who do
not start their own thing stay forever.  Most of the people I meet there have
been their forever, or come back.  I here so few mangers quit that it is hard
to more up the ladder unless a new group is being formed .  God forbid you get
a project cancelled.  Finding another good spot up the food chain is really
hard.  

 

But I also have a few friends that say never again.  I know that
the only thing that could probably get my husband to go in as an employee is if
he got a full time gig with the experimental group. He likes working on 
experimental
projects.  I used to worry he was going to get an offer, but after the crash
last year, they slashed and burned many of the experimental groups so I doubt
if they will be making any more overtures any time soon.

 

These are very strange times at Microsoft.   It’s almost
cannibalistic.  The company is trying to redefine itself beyond windows and
Office, but those groups work to undercut groups working to compete with Apple,
Google,Sony, etc.  So efforts to move beyond the desktop are often harmed by
insiders before they even go up against would be competitor

 

My husband just started as a consultant with the Microsoft Apple
group last week.  He hated Vista, but likes 7.  We still run XP for our
business, but he is considering switching us over to 7.  I going to have to put
my ear to the ground about 8.  But my gut is to wait, because there seems to
always be some major bug.  If we move to 7, I will be in no hurry to jump to 8

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:40 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release





 





They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn over
rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5. 



The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are
supposed to be a secret. After all of the hype about windows 7 now
we find out that just a year later that they will be releasing windows 8? That
is a little disappointing.



On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
wrote:



 



I guess it’s payback time for how they
are laying off, reducing salaries and overworking the Microsoft crew.

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mr. Worf

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release









 





M$ is pissed!





Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release



Less than six
months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a former
Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software giant's product
releases schedule for the next three years.






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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-02-01 Thread Martin Baxter

I may not have the option of waiting. I'm into my fourth year on this laptop, 
and I run it daily. The wear's starting to show.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:41:38 -0800
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release


















 



  



  
  
  








When vista came out, all the people at Microsoft groaned about
having to use it.  That was a horrible sign.

 

They seem to really like 8, so I’m going to wait a until late  and
do an upgrade.I want to see what bugs they find a little longer

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:22 PM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release





 





I'm not ina  rush for the upgrade either, Tracey. I've been on XP since I
got this laptop back in '06, but I'll definitely have to go up when D.X. here
gives up the ghost, unless I luck out and find a place that carries XP on disc
for me to roll back to.



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:54:14 -0800

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release



  







 



I used to recruit for them back in  the day. Back then they
had a very high retention rate.  Until the sky fell last year, I was left
with a similar impression, but it could be just senior and middle level
managers who do not start their own thing stay forever.  Most of the
people I meet there have been their forever, or come back.  I here so few 
mangers
quit that it is hard to more up the ladder unless a new group is being formed
.  God forbid you get a project cancelled.  Finding another good spot
up the food chain is really hard.  

 

But I also have a few friends that say never again.  I know
that the only thing that could probably get my husband to go in as an employee
is if he got a full time gig with the experimental group. He likes working on
experimental projects.  I used to worry he was going to get an offer, but
after the crash last year, they slashed and burned many of the experimental
groups so I doubt if they will be making any more overtures any time soon.

 

These are very strange times at Microsoft.   It’s
almost cannibalistic.  The company is trying to redefine itself beyond
windows and Office, but those groups work to undercut groups working to compete
with Apple, Google,Sony, etc.  So efforts to move beyond the desktop are
often harmed by insiders before they even go up against would be competitor

 

My husband just started as a consultant with the Microsoft Apple
group last week.  He hated Vista, but likes 7.  We still run XP for
our business, but he is considering switching us over to 7.  I going to
have to put my ear to the ground about 8.  But my gut is to wait, because
there seems to always be some major bug.  If we move to 7, I will be in no
hurry to jump to 8

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:40 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release





 





They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn over
rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5. 



The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are
supposed to be a secret. After all of the hype about windows 7 now
we find out that just a year later that they will be releasing windows 8? That
is a little disappointing.



On
Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
wrote:



 



I guess it’s payback time for how they are laying off, reducing
salaries and overworking the Microsoft crew.

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mr. Worf

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release









 





M$ is pissed!





Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release



Less
than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a
former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software giant's
product releases schedule for the next three years.





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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-02-01 Thread Martin Baxter

Not doubting him or you at all, Tracey. Sorry if it seemed that way. My only 
exposure to M$-based product is what I fall across in sites and such. I've 
stripped my system of everything M$-based that I could and maintain 
functionality.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:38:44 -0800
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release


















 



  



  
  
  








My husband says it is not true.  He plays music with some guy
who is way up the food chain.  I’m going to ask him

 





From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Martin
Baxter

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:19 PM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release





 





Didn't Windows 7 just roll out the door? Why would there be such a rush to push
the next version out, even with competition being what it is?







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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Didn't Windows 7 just roll out the door? Why would there be such a rush to push 
the next version out, even with competition being what it is?
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-31 Thread Martin Baxter

I'm not ina  rush for the upgrade either, Tracey. I've been on XP since I got 
this laptop back in '06, but I'll definitely have to go up when D.X. here gives 
up the ghost, unless I luck out and find a place that carries XP on disc for me 
to roll back to.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:54:14 -0800
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release


















 



  



  
  
  








I used to recruit for them back in  the day. Back then they had
a very high retention rate.  Until the sky fell last year, I was left with a
similar impression, but it could be just senior and middle level managers who do
not start their own thing stay forever.  Most of the people I meet there have
been their forever, or come back.  I here so few mangers quit that it is hard
to more up the ladder unless a new group is being formed .  God forbid you get
a project cancelled.  Finding another good spot up the food chain is really
hard.  

 

But I also have a few friends that say never again.  I know that
the only thing that could probably get my husband to go in as an employee is if
he got a full time gig with the experimental group. He likes working on 
experimental
projects.  I used to worry he was going to get an offer, but after the crash
last year, they slashed and burned many of the experimental groups so I doubt
if they will be making any more overtures any time soon.

 

These are very strange times at Microsoft.   It’s almost
cannibalistic.  The company is trying to redefine itself beyond windows and
Office, but those groups work to undercut groups working to compete with Apple,
Google,Sony, etc.  So efforts to move beyond the desktop are often harmed by
insiders before they even go up against would be competitor

 

My husband just started as a consultant with the Microsoft Apple
group last week.  He hated Vista, but likes 7.  We still run XP for our
business, but he is considering switching us over to 7.  I going to have to put
my ear to the ground about 8.  But my gut is to wait, because there seems to
always be some major bug.  If we move to 7, I will be in no hurry to jump to 8

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:40 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release





 





They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn over
rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5. 



The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are
supposed to be a secret. After all of the hype about windows 7 now
we find out that just a year later that they will be releasing windows 8? That
is a little disappointing.



On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
wrote:



 



I guess it’s payback time for how they
are laying off, reducing salaries and overworking the Microsoft crew.

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mr. Worf

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release









 





M$ is pissed!





Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release



Less than six
months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a former
Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software giant's product
releases schedule for the next three years.






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Lies,
half-truths and distortions are commonplace when it comes to rumors of new
products, product release dates and management shakeups in the software
industry. CodeGuru has
the latest scuttlebutt from a blogger who posted his version of Microsoft's
product release timeline through 2012. 

If it was a practical joke, Microsoft officials aren't laughing. 


A man who claimed to have worked for Microsoft until mid-January posted on
his blog in early December a list of upcoming, unannounced products and his
guesses on when they will ship. 


On that list is Windows 8, which the former employee—Chris Green—pegs as
being released to manufacturing (RTM) on or around July 1, 2011.
Green's list also predicts Office 2012 is targeted to RTM in July 2012, and
Windows Server 2012 as going to RTM in July 2012. 


Earlier this week, that December post, and the chart that the former
employee compiled, were spotted by Stephen Chapman

RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-31 Thread Martin Baxter

And, for the Official Record, martin finds that he doesn't give a crap about 
M$'s money-grubbing ways. Their just rewards are coming, the minute they splash 
down in the Tenth Circle.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:55:55 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release


















 



  



  
  
  M$ is pissed!



Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

Less
than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to
be a former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software
giant's product releases schedule for the next three years.












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Lies, half-truths and distortions are
commonplace when it comes to rumors of new products, product release
dates and management shakeups in the software industry. CodeGuru has the latest 
scuttlebutt from a blogger who posted his version of Microsoft's product 
release timeline through 2012.
If it was a practical joke, Microsoft officials aren't laughing. 

A man who claimed to have worked for Microsoft until mid-January
posted on his blog in early December a list of upcoming, unannounced
products and his guesses on when they will ship. 
On that list is Windows 8, which the former employee—Chris
Green—pegs as being released to manufacturing (RTM) on or around July
1, 2011. Green's list also predicts Office 2012 is targeted to RTM in
July 2012, and Windows Server 2012 as going to RTM in July 2012. 
Earlier this week, that December post, and the chart that the
former employee compiled, were spotted by Stephen Chapman, a blogger
who already has a bit of a track record for finding sensitive Microsoft
product timing documents. 
Chapman publicized Green's chart in a post on the Microsoft Kitchen blog 
(formerly known as the UX Evangelist blog) Wednesday. 

Green, whose name and former company e-mail address appears on
at least one apparent Microsoft document online, did not respond to a
request for comment by press time. 
Microsoft Kitchen's Chapman said he does not know Green and
can't vouch for the accuracy of the future product names and dates,
although he noted on his blog that Green's chart includes caveats
regarding the accuracy of the information. 


Read the full story at CodeGuru:


Cover Blown on Windows 8 Release?
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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-31 Thread Tracey de Morsella
My husband says it is not true.  He plays music with some guy who is way up
the food chain.  I'm going to ask him

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:19 PM
To: SciFiNoir2
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



Didn't Windows 7 just roll out the door? Why would there be such a rush to
push the next version out, even with competition being what it is?

  _  

Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it
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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-31 Thread Tracey de Morsella
When vista came out, all the people at Microsoft groaned about having to use
it.  That was a horrible sign.

 

They seem to really like 8, so I'm going to wait a until late  and do an
upgrade.I want to see what bugs they find a little longer

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:22 PM
To: SciFiNoir2
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



I'm not ina  rush for the upgrade either, Tracey. I've been on XP since I
got this laptop back in '06, but I'll definitely have to go up when D.X.
here gives up the ghost, unless I luck out and find a place that carries XP
on disc for me to roll back to.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





  _  

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:54:14 -0800
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

  

 

I used to recruit for them back in  the day. Back then they had a very high
retention rate.  Until the sky fell last year, I was left with a similar
impression, but it could be just senior and middle level managers who do not
start their own thing stay forever.  Most of the people I meet there have
been their forever, or come back.  I here so few mangers quit that it is
hard to more up the ladder unless a new group is being formed .  God forbid
you get a project cancelled.  Finding another good spot up the food chain is
really hard.  

 

But I also have a few friends that say never again.  I know that the only
thing that could probably get my husband to go in as an employee is if he
got a full time gig with the experimental group. He likes working on
experimental projects.  I used to worry he was going to get an offer, but
after the crash last year, they slashed and burned many of the experimental
groups so I doubt if they will be making any more overtures any time soon.

 

These are very strange times at Microsoft.   It's almost cannibalistic.  The
company is trying to redefine itself beyond windows and Office, but those
groups work to undercut groups working to compete with Apple, Google,Sony,
etc.  So efforts to move beyond the desktop are often harmed by insiders
before they even go up against would be competitor

 

My husband just started as a consultant with the Microsoft Apple group last
week.  He hated Vista, but likes 7.  We still run XP for our business, but
he is considering switching us over to 7.  I going to have to put my ear to
the ground about 8.  But my gut is to wait, because there seems to always be
some major bug.  If we move to 7, I will be in no hurry to jump to 8

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:40 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn
over rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5. 

The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are
supposed to be a secret. After all of the hype about windows 7 now we find
out that just a year later that they will be releasing windows 8? That is a
little disappointing.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tracey de Morsella
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote:

 

I guess it's payback time for how they are laying off, reducing salaries and
overworking the Microsoft crew.

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



M$ is pissed!


Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

Less than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to
be a former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software
giant's product releases schedule for the next three years.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-31 Thread Keith Johnson
There are places you can get an OEM copy of XP, so that if your laptop has a 
valid Microsoft license affixed, you can load the OEM copy. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:22:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release 






I'm not ina rush for the upgrade either, Tracey. I've been on XP since I got 
this laptop back in '06, but I'll definitely have to go up when D.X. here gives 
up the ghost, unless I luck out and find a place that carries XP on disc for me 
to roll back to. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com 
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:54:14 -0800 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release 








I used to recruit for them back in the day. Back then they had a very high 
retention rate. Until the sky fell last year, I was left with a similar 
impression, but it could be just senior and middle level managers who do not 
start their own thing stay forever. Most of the people I meet there have been 
their forever, or come back. I here so few mangers quit that it is hard to more 
up the ladder unless a new group is being formed . God forbid you get a project 
cancelled. Finding another good spot up the food chain is really hard. 



But I also have a few friends that say never again. I know that the only thing 
that could probably get my husband to go in as an employee is if he got a full 
time gig with the experimental group. He likes working on experimental 
projects. I used to worry he was going to get an offer, but after the crash 
last year, they slashed and burned many of the experimental groups so I doubt 
if they will be making any more overtures any time soon. 



These are very strange times at Microsoft. It’s almost cannibalistic. The 
company is trying to redefine itself beyond windows and Office, but those 
groups work to undercut groups working to compete with Apple, Google,Sony, etc. 
So efforts to move beyond the desktop are often harmed by insiders before they 
even go up against would be competitor 



My husband just started as a consultant with the Microsoft Apple group last 
week. He hated Vista, but likes 7. We still run XP for our business, but he is 
considering switching us over to 7. I going to have to put my ear to the ground 
about 8. But my gut is to wait, because there seems to always be some major 
bug. If we move to 7, I will be in no hurry to jump to 8 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf 
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:40 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release 





They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn over 
rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5. 

The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are 
supposed to be a secret. After all of the hype about windows 7 now we find 
out that just a year later that they will be releasing windows 8? That is a 
little disappointing. 


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tracey de Morsella  
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com  wrote: 





I guess it’s payback time for how they are laying off, reducing salaries and 
overworking the Microsoft crew. 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On 
Behalf Of Mr. Worf 
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release 







M$ is pissed! 



Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release Less than six months after the 
release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a former Microsoft employee 
posted a timeline outlining the software giant's product releases schedule for 
the next three years. 



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Lies, half-truths and distortions are commonplace when it comes to rumors of 
new products, product release dates and management shakeups in the software 
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version of Microsoft's product release timeline through 2012. If it was a 
practical joke, Microsoft officials aren't laughing. 
A man who claimed to have worked for Microsoft until mid-January posted on his 
blog in early December a list of upcoming, unannounced products and his guesses 
on when they will ship. 
On that list is Windows 8, which the former

RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I guess it’s payback time for how they are laying off, reducing salaries and 
overworking the Microsoft crew.

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



M$ is pissed!


Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

Less than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a 
former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software giant's 
product releases schedule for the next three years.

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Lies, half-truths and distortions are commonplace when it comes to rumors of 
new products, product release dates and management shakeups in the software 
industry. CodeGuru http://www.codeguru.com/  has the latest scuttlebutt from 
a blogger who posted his version of Microsoft's product release timeline 
through 2012. 

If it was a practical joke, Microsoft officials aren't laughing. 

A man who claimed to have worked for Microsoft until mid-January posted on his 
blog in early December a list of upcoming, unannounced products and his guesses 
on when they will ship. 

On that list is Windows 8, which the former employee—Chris Green—pegs as being 
released to manufacturing (RTM) on or around July 1, 2011. Green's list also 
predicts Office 2012 is targeted to RTM in July 2012, and Windows Server 2012 
as going to RTM in July 2012. 

Earlier this week, that December post, and the chart that the former employee 
compiled, were spotted by Stephen Chapman, a blogger who already has a bit of a 
track record for finding sensitive Microsoft product timing documents. 

Chapman publicized Green's chart in a post on the Microsoft Kitchen blog 
(formerly known as the UX Evangelist blog) Wednesday. 

Green, whose name and former company e-mail address appears on at least one 
apparent Microsoft document online, did not respond to a request for comment by 
press time. 

Microsoft Kitchen's Chapman said he does not know Green and can't vouch for the 
accuracy of the future product names and dates, although he noted on his blog 
that Green's chart includes caveats regarding the accuracy of the information. 


Read the full story at CodeGuru: 
Cover http://www.codeguru.com/cpp/w-p/system/misc/article.php/c16773/  Blown 
on Windows 8 Release?




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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
My husband says that the release dates always slip out and they know they will. 
  It is so common place that these leaks are pretty much included in the 
planning of the release.  If you think back over the years, we have always had 
a heads up on the release dates

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



M$ is pissed!


Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

Less than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a 
former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software giant's 
product releases schedule for the next three years.

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Lies, half-truths and distortions are commonplace when it comes to rumors of 
new products, product release dates and management shakeups in the software 
industry. CodeGuru http://www.codeguru.com/  has the latest scuttlebutt from 
a blogger who posted his version of Microsoft's product release timeline 
through 2012. 

If it was a practical joke, Microsoft officials aren't laughing. 

A man who claimed to have worked for Microsoft until mid-January posted on his 
blog in early December a list of upcoming, unannounced products and his guesses 
on when they will ship. 

On that list is Windows 8, which the former employee—Chris Green—pegs as being 
released to manufacturing (RTM) on or around July 1, 2011. Green's list also 
predicts Office 2012 is targeted to RTM in July 2012, and Windows Server 2012 
as going to RTM in July 2012. 

Earlier this week, that December post, and the chart that the former employee 
compiled, were spotted by Stephen Chapman, a blogger who already has a bit of a 
track record for finding sensitive Microsoft product timing documents. 

Chapman publicized Green's chart in a post on the Microsoft Kitchen blog 
(formerly known as the UX Evangelist blog) Wednesday. 

Green, whose name and former company e-mail address appears on at least one 
apparent Microsoft document online, did not respond to a request for comment by 
press time. 

Microsoft Kitchen's Chapman said he does not know Green and can't vouch for the 
accuracy of the future product names and dates, although he noted on his blog 
that Green's chart includes caveats regarding the accuracy of the information. 


Read the full story at CodeGuru: 
Cover http://www.codeguru.com/cpp/w-p/system/misc/article.php/c16773/  Blown 
on Windows 8 Release?




-- 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Mr. Worf
They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn
over rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5.

The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are
supposed to be a secret. After all of the hype about windows 7 now we find
out that just a year later that they will be releasing windows 8? That is a
little disappointing.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote:



  I guess it’s payback time for how they are laying off, reducing salaries
 and overworking the Microsoft crew.



 *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
 *Sent:* Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release





 M$ is pissed!**

 *
 Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release*

 Less than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to
 be a former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software
 giant's product releases schedule for the next three years.

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 *Lies, half-truths and distortions are commonplace when it comes to rumors
 of new products, product release dates and management shakeups in the
 software industry. CodeGuru http://www.codeguru.com/ has the latest
 scuttlebutt from a blogger who posted his version of Microsoft's product
 release timeline through 2012.*

 If it was a practical joke, Microsoft officials aren't laughing.

 A man who claimed to have worked for Microsoft until mid-January posted on
 his blog in early December a list of upcoming, unannounced products and his
 guesses on when they will ship.

 On that list is Windows 8, which the former employee—Chris Green—pegs as
 being released to manufacturing (RTM) on or around July 1, 2011. Green's
 list also predicts Office 2012 is targeted to RTM in July 2012, and Windows
 Server 2012 as going to RTM in July 2012.

 Earlier this week, that December post, and the chart that the former
 employee compiled, were spotted by Stephen Chapman, a blogger who already
 has a bit of a track record for finding sensitive Microsoft product timing
 documents.

 Chapman publicized Green's chart in a post on the Microsoft Kitchen blog
 (formerly known as the UX Evangelist blog) Wednesday.

 Green, whose name and former company e-mail address appears on at least one
 apparent Microsoft document online, did not respond to a request for comment
 by press time.

 Microsoft Kitchen's Chapman said he does not know Green and can't vouch for
 the accuracy of the future product names and dates, although he noted on his
 blog that Green's chart includes caveats regarding the accuracy of the
 information.
 Read the full story at CodeGuru:
 Cover Blown on Windows 8 
 Release?http://www.codeguru.com/cpp/w-p/system/misc/article.php/c16773/



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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I used to recruit for them back in  the day. Back then they had a very high 
retention rate.  Until the sky fell last year, I was left with a similar 
impression, but it could be just senior and middle level managers who do not 
start their own thing stay forever.  Most of the people I meet there have been 
their forever, or come back.  I here so few mangers quit that it is hard to 
more up the ladder unless a new group is being formed .  God forbid you get a 
project cancelled.  Finding another good spot up the food chain is really hard. 
 

 

But I also have a few friends that say never again.  I know that the only thing 
that could probably get my husband to go in as an employee is if he got a full 
time gig with the experimental group. He likes working on experimental 
projects.  I used to worry he was going to get an offer, but after the crash 
last year, they slashed and burned many of the experimental groups so I doubt 
if they will be making any more overtures any time soon.

 

These are very strange times at Microsoft.   It’s almost cannibalistic.  The 
company is trying to redefine itself beyond windows and Office, but those 
groups work to undercut groups working to compete with Apple, Google,Sony, etc. 
 So efforts to move beyond the desktop are often harmed by insiders before they 
even go up against would be competitor

 

My husband just started as a consultant with the Microsoft Apple group last 
week.  He hated Vista, but likes 7.  We still run XP for our business, but he 
is considering switching us over to 7.  I going to have to put my ear to the 
ground about 8.  But my gut is to wait, because there seems to always be some 
major bug.  If we move to 7, I will be in no hurry to jump to 8

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:40 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn over 
rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5. 

The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are 
supposed to be a secret. After all of the hype about windows 7 now we find 
out that just a year later that they will be releasing windows 8? That is a 
little disappointing.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote:

 

I guess it’s payback time for how they are laying off, reducing salaries and 
overworking the Microsoft crew.

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



M$ is pissed!


Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

Less than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a 
former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software giant's 
product releases schedule for the next three years.

 http://www.internetnews.com/software/email.php/3861506  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

2010-01-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Don’t hold be to this.  But Chris said there is no talk of 8 that he has heard 
of, but he has not done any work there since July.   I tend to believe them, 
because someone we know there would have been saying something.  Everybody 
seems to be buzzing about 7.  He has a friend right below Balmer.  I’m going to 
ask him the next time I see him.  You have me curious

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:54 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 






I used to recruit for them back in  the day. Back then they had a very high 
retention rate.  Until the sky fell last year, I was left with a similar 
impression, but it could be just senior and middle level managers who do not 
start their own thing stay forever.  Most of the people I meet there have been 
their forever, or come back.  I here so few mangers quit that it is hard to 
more up the ladder unless a new group is being formed .  God forbid you get a 
project cancelled.  Finding another good spot up the food chain is really hard. 
 

 

But I also have a few friends that say never again.  I know that the only thing 
that could probably get my husband to go in as an employee is if he got a full 
time gig with the experimental group. He likes working on experimental 
projects.  I used to worry he was going to get an offer, but after the crash 
last year, they slashed and burned many of the experimental groups so I doubt 
if they will be making any more overtures any time soon.

 

These are very strange times at Microsoft.   It’s almost cannibalistic.  The 
company is trying to redefine itself beyond windows and Office, but those 
groups work to undercut groups working to compete with Apple, Google,Sony, etc. 
 So efforts to move beyond the desktop are often harmed by insiders before they 
even go up against would be competitor

 

My husband just started as a consultant with the Microsoft Apple group last 
week.  He hated Vista, but likes 7.  We still run XP for our business, but he 
is considering switching us over to 7.  I going to have to put my ear to the 
ground about 8.  But my gut is to wait, because there seems to always be some 
major bug.  If we move to 7, I will be in no hurry to jump to 8

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:40 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



They seem to waste a lot of their talent there. They have about a 50% turn over 
rate with 2 years. That number increases dramatically by year 5. 

The RTM dates are flexible. The problem is the info about products that are 
supposed to be a secret. After all of the hype about windows 7 now we find 
out that just a year later that they will be releasing windows 8? That is a 
little disappointing.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote:

 

I guess it’s payback time for how they are laying off, reducing salaries and 
overworking the Microsoft crew.

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:56 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

 



M$ is pissed!


Blogger: Windows 8 Set for July 2011 Release

Less than six months after the release of Windows 7, a blogger claiming to be a 
former Microsoft employee posted a timeline outlining the software giant's 
product releases schedule for the next three years.

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