Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who
Mr Worf, that was The Infinity Quest, a 12-parter that was up on YouTube for several months, until the Beeb pulled it, because of the massive number of downloads. I never thought of it as being kid-friendly, because most of the people downloading it were my age. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen a couple of Dr.Who cartoons (they were with Tennant and Martha Jones) so its possible that they are trying to blend the two into something kid friendly to build a merchandising stream. This is an obvious bad idea. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I keep hoping that it's a matter of wanting to lighten the show up a bit after several years of sombre, adult, even grim shows under Eccleston and Tennant. That would be okay. But you're right: it's starting to have more of the feeling of something written for pre-teens on Saturday mornings. What's that spinoff about his past Companion: The Sarah Jane Chronicles or something? it has the same breezy feeling as that show, and that show is obviously written with kids in mind, seeing as how a kid is a central character. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:18:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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I did see an episode on youtube, but the first one that I saw was an hour plus long movie. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, that was The Infinity Quest, a 12-parter that was up on YouTube for several months, until the Beeb pulled it, because of the massive number of downloads. I never thought of it as being kid-friendly, because most of the people downloading it were my age. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen a couple of Dr.Who cartoons (they were with Tennant and Martha Jones) so its possible that they are trying to blend the two into something kid friendly to build a merchandising stream. This is an obvious bad idea. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I keep hoping that it's a matter of wanting to lighten the show up a bit after several years of sombre, adult, even grim shows under Eccleston and Tennant. That would be okay. But you're right: it's starting to have more of the feeling of something written for pre-teens on Saturday mornings. What's that spinoff about his past Companion: The Sarah Jane Chronicles or something? it has the same breezy feeling as that show, and that show is obviously written with kids in mind, seeing as how a kid is a central character. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:18:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E
Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who
All of the Doctor Who cartoons are now available on Netflix. Pretty much all of the seasons of Doctor Who from the all of the Doctor's is now on Netflix. So if you REALLY want to see everything you can. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen a couple of Dr.Who cartoons (they were with Tennant and Martha Jones) so its possible that they are trying to blend the two into something kid friendly to build a merchandising stream. This is an obvious bad idea. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I keep hoping that it's a matter of wanting to lighten the show up a bit after several years of sombre, adult, even grim shows under Eccleston and Tennant. That would be okay. But you're right: it's starting to have more of the feeling of something written for pre-teens on Saturday mornings. What's that spinoff about his past Companion: The Sarah Jane Chronicles or something? it has the same breezy feeling as that show, and that show is obviously written with kids in mind, seeing as how a kid is a central character. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:18:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
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Mr Worf, that must've been another animated feature. (I think there were a couple out there.) The Infinity Quest vignettes were all short features. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I did see an episode on youtube, but the first one that I saw was an hour plus long movie. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, that was The Infinity Quest, a 12-parter that was up on YouTube for several months, until the Beeb pulled it, because of the massive number of downloads. I never thought of it as being kid-friendly, because most of the people downloading it were my age. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen a couple of Dr.Who cartoons (they were with Tennant and Martha Jones) so its possible that they are trying to blend the two into something kid friendly to build a merchandising stream. This is an obvious bad idea. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I keep hoping that it's a matter of wanting to lighten the show up a bit after several years of sombre, adult, even grim shows under Eccleston and Tennant. That would be okay. But you're right: it's starting to have more of the feeling of something written for pre-teens on Saturday mornings. What's that spinoff about his past Companion: The Sarah Jane Chronicles or something? it has the same breezy feeling as that show, and that show is obviously written with kids in mind, seeing as how a kid is a central character. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:18:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10
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I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Adrianne, so am I. The whole pe felt a little rushed. Was good, but could've been better. They seem to be trying to develop the Weeping Angels for use as a future foe. The introduction of the militant Church feels like a lift from several of the DW New Adventures novelizations, a military police force called Adjuticators. And River Song's character, now that I see this, feels like another New Adventures character, Professor Bernice Summerfield (also an archaeologist), who has a bit of a shady past. (Can't wait to find out why River was in prison, or the secret she has! (Which was probably the reason she and the future Doctor broke up.)) On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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That should be the whole piece. Pardons. It's early. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Adrianne, so am I. The whole pe felt a little rushed. Was good, but could've been better. They seem to be trying to develop the Weeping Angels for use as a future foe. The introduction of the militant Church feels like a lift from several of the DW New Adventures novelizations, a military police force called Adjuticators. And River Song's character, now that I see this, feels like another New Adventures character, Professor Bernice Summerfield (also an archaeologist), who has a bit of a shady past. (Can't wait to find out why River was in prison, or the secret she has! (Which was probably the reason she and the future Doctor broke up.)) On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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Mr Worf, I'm hoping that it's a matter of building up to something. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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The comparison to Benny was first made by a good friend of mine, who initially liked her in the first two parter she showed up in. Now she thinks she's an annoying rip off and hates her. The fact that she's lost her sex appeal also aided in this... Actually it's pretty clear they were not only NOT lovers but she actually kills him in the future. I don't think they were married, hon. Sorry. :( ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Adrianne, so am I. The whole pe felt a little rushed. Was good, but could've been better. They seem to be trying to develop the Weeping Angels for use as a future foe. The introduction of the militant Church feels like a lift from several of the DW New Adventures novelizations, a military police force called Adjuticators. And River Song's character, now that I see this, feels like another New Adventures character, Professor Bernice Summerfield (also an archaeologist), who has a bit of a shady past. (Can't wait to find out why River was in prison, or the secret she has! (Which was probably the reason she and the future Doctor broke up.)) On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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They've had five episodes already. Build up to what? A lackluster finale? I kept getting told to give Moffat a chance in spite of my misgivings, and I dearly wanted to eat my words with a glass of Chianti. But so far it looks like I'm right. Moffat just isn't up for the task, and I hope someone else takes over who has the passion for the job, ability to do good characters, and good scripts. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I'm hoping that it's a matter of building up to something. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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KILLS HIM? I admit that I had to step out on the show for a minute. Must've missed that. Still, I stick by my belief. The looks she gives him are ones I've given to many a woman in my life. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: The comparison to Benny was first made by a good friend of mine, who initially liked her in the first two parter she showed up in. Now she thinks she's an annoying rip off and hates her. The fact that she's lost her sex appeal also aided in this... Actually it's pretty clear they were not only NOT lovers but she actually kills him in the future. I don't think they were married, hon. Sorry. :( ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Adrianne, so am I. The whole pe felt a little rushed. Was good, but could've been better. They seem to be trying to develop the Weeping Angels for use as a future foe. The introduction of the militant Church feels like a lift from several of the DW New Adventures novelizations, a military police force called Adjuticators. And River Song's character, now that I see this, feels like another New Adventures character, Professor Bernice Summerfield (also an archaeologist), who has a bit of a shady past. (Can't wait to find out why River was in prison, or the secret she has! (Which was probably the reason she and the future Doctor broke up.)) On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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I think she eventually becomes his traveling companion. Unfortunately, the length that this is stretching out is becoming a little annoying. The only thing I like is that she is a lot more proactive than reactive than most of the other people that have traveled with him in recent memory. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: KILLS HIM? I admit that I had to step out on the show for a minute. Must've missed that. Still, I stick by my belief. The looks she gives him are ones I've given to many a woman in my life. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: The comparison to Benny was first made by a good friend of mine, who initially liked her in the first two parter she showed up in. Now she thinks she's an annoying rip off and hates her. The fact that she's lost her sex appeal also aided in this... Actually it's pretty clear they were not only NOT lovers but she actually kills him in the future. I don't think they were married, hon. Sorry. :( ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Adrianne, so am I. The whole pe felt a little rushed. Was good, but could've been better. They seem to be trying to develop the Weeping Angels for use as a future foe. The introduction of the militant Church feels like a lift from several of the DW New Adventures novelizations, a military police force called Adjuticators. And River Song's character, now that I see this, feels like another New Adventures character, Professor Bernice Summerfield (also an archaeologist), who has a bit of a shady past. (Can't wait to find out why River was in prison, or the secret she has! (Which was probably the reason she and the future Doctor broke up.)) On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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And I daresay, Mr Worf, that that speaks to the experience she had by being a companion. And, like the Doctor, she knows how to reach out when help is needed, as he did when he worked (probably still does) with the Shadow Proclamation. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I think she eventually becomes his traveling companion. Unfortunately, the length that this is stretching out is becoming a little annoying. The only thing I like is that she is a lot more proactive than reactive than most of the other people that have traveled with him in recent memory. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: KILLS HIM? I admit that I had to step out on the show for a minute. Must've missed that. Still, I stick by my belief. The looks she gives him are ones I've given to many a woman in my life. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: The comparison to Benny was first made by a good friend of mine, who initially liked her in the first two parter she showed up in. Now she thinks she's an annoying rip off and hates her. The fact that she's lost her sex appeal also aided in this... Actually it's pretty clear they were not only NOT lovers but she actually kills him in the future. I don't think they were married, hon. Sorry. :( ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Adrianne, so am I. The whole pe felt a little rushed. Was good, but could've been better. They seem to be trying to develop the Weeping Angels for use as a future foe. The introduction of the militant Church feels like a lift from several of the DW New Adventures novelizations, a military police force called Adjuticators. And River Song's character, now that I see this, feels like another New Adventures character, Professor Bernice Summerfield (also an archaeologist), who has a bit of a shady past. (Can't wait to find out why River was in prison, or the secret she has! (Which was probably the reason she and the future Doctor broke up.)) On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Can you give a bit of info about these New Adventures books? Where they books only? Are they considered part of the official continuity, or just potential alternate reality treatments not to be seen as Who canon? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 6:38:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who Adrianne, so am I. The whole pe felt a little rushed. Was good, but could've been better. They seem to be trying to develop the Weeping Angels for use as a future foe. The introduction of the militant Church feels like a lift from several of the DW New Adventures novelizations, a military police force called Adjuticators. And River Song's character, now that I see this, feels like another New Adventures character, Professor Bernice Summerfield (also an archaeologist), who has a bit of a shady past. (Can't wait to find out why River was in prison, or the secret she has! (Which was probably the reason she and the future Doctor broke up.)) On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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Just finished watching this episode and it made me nod off twice. I like river song and I think she will be his companion in season 6 or 7 and they will explain the full connection. She know's everything about him and has a full journal..so if she is not his wife there is some deep relation. Anyway if you have Xbox 360 The Shara Jane Chronicles are available on BBC America -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
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The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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i have to agree Amy Pond is very boring as a companion. She doesn't stand out amongst all those who have traveled with him. I'm ready for the Doctor to regenerate and for Amy Pond to go back home. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
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I keep hoping that it's a matter of wanting to lighten the show up a bit after several years of sombre, adult, even grim shows under Eccleston and Tennant. That would be okay. But you're right: it's starting to have more of the feeling of something written for pre-teens on Saturday mornings. What's that spinoff about his past Companion: The Sarah Jane Chronicles or something? it has the same breezy feeling as that show, and that show is obviously written with kids in mind, seeing as how a kid is a central character. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:18:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Keith, the New Adventures were initially just books, but have since gone into audiobook and radio formats. They aren't considered official canon by the Beeb, but many fans take them as such. Here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_New_Adventures In addition to Bernice Summerfield, they've also introduced a number of companions who are every bit as beloved as the ones you know from the series run. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Can you give a bit of info about these New Adventures books? Where they books only? Are they considered part of the official continuity, or just potential alternate reality treatments not to be seen as Who canon? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 6:38:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who Adrianne, so am I. The whole pe felt a little rushed. Was good, but could've been better. They seem to be trying to develop the Weeping Angels for use as a future foe. The introduction of the militant Church feels like a lift from several of the DW New Adventures novelizations, a military police force called Adjuticators. And River Song's character, now that I see this, feels like another New Adventures character, Professor Bernice Summerfield (also an archaeologist), who has a bit of a shady past. (Can't wait to find out why River was in prison, or the secret she has! (Which was probably the reason she and the future Doctor broke up.)) On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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This is a horribly inappropriate comparison--for now--but the change in pacing, characterization, and tone reminds me of the shift from Tim Burton's first two Batman movies, to when Schumacher took over. The one with Val Kilmer--Batman Forever--wasn't horrible, but it was a major reduction in maturity and writing over what had come before... - Original Message - From: Mike Street streetfor...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:23:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who i have to agree Amy Pond is very boring as a companion. She doesn't stand out amongst all those who have traveled with him. I'm ready for the Doctor to regenerate and for Amy Pond to go back home. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
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Keith, I might've liked The Sarah Jane Chronicles back when I was a kid. No, I take that back. I wouldn't have. Never been enough of a kid to enjoy a Kid POV. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I keep hoping that it's a matter of wanting to lighten the show up a bit after several years of sombre, adult, even grim shows under Eccleston and Tennant. That would be okay. But you're right: it's starting to have more of the feeling of something written for pre-teens on Saturday mornings. What's that spinoff about his past Companion: The Sarah Jane Chronicles or something? it has the same breezy feeling as that show, and that show is obviously written with kids in mind, seeing as how a kid is a central character. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:18:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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It's also reminded me of when we first met River Song in the library and the voice of the dead kept talking through the communicator On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com
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Yeah, Mike. Point away from the writers for recycling that trick. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@gmail.com wrote: It's also reminded me of when we first met River Song in the library and the voice of the dead kept talking through the communicator On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Get Social and Follow Me: Join me on Facebook http://facebook.com/mikestreet Follow me on Twitter Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Join the Harlem NY Community http://www.facebook.com/harlemny and at http://HarlemSocial.com -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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I have seen a couple of Dr.Who cartoons (they were with Tennant and Martha Jones) so its possible that they are trying to blend the two into something kid friendly to build a merchandising stream. This is an obvious bad idea. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I keep hoping that it's a matter of wanting to lighten the show up a bit after several years of sombre, adult, even grim shows under Eccleston and Tennant. That would be okay. But you're right: it's starting to have more of the feeling of something written for pre-teens on Saturday mornings. What's that spinoff about his past Companion: The Sarah Jane Chronicles or something? it has the same breezy feeling as that show, and that show is obviously written with kids in mind, seeing as how a kid is a central character. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:18:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who The soldier's voice was probably the creepiest point of the show but they didn't utilize it correctly. I think they are trying to keep it under 12 friendly. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: i'm reluctantly agreeing with you, Adrianne, and was it Daryl? I kept waiting for the show to feel creepy and suspenseful, and it just felt...there. The pacing remains too fast, with lots of scene cuts, the Doctor pretty much going from relaxed to panicked, but there seems to be no underlying strong writing to bolster all the surface action. There were a couple of moments--SPOILERS--such as when the dead soldier's voice is being used by the Angels, and the realization that the army of Angels is waking up. But they go from slow to hyper so quickly, i don't get to feel the buildup of drama or tension. I'm also not feeling his Companion quite yet. Her character's a bit sketchy. Even Alex Kingston--a really gifted actress--came off as a bit bland. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:20:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I just watched the show. They ended the first part rather abruptly. I was so surprised that I thought my dvr cut off the last minute of it. The quality of writing has dropped dramatically this season. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who
I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...?
Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who
It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...?
Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who
Without spoiling too much, I think they ruined a good villain and alienated a chunk of the audience towards the end with a really bad character decision. That's all I can say without spoilers. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: It's a two-parter, so maybe the conclusion will be good? Did you dislike the way it ended only, or the entire show? I will say, it didn't have quite the suspense and eerie feeling of the first ep. - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:47:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weeping Angels Return to Dr. Who I won't spoil the ending, but needless to say...am unimpressed. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Lots of folks here have not felt any love for the new Dr. Who, but perhaps tonight's ep will be different? Called The Time of Angels, it's a revisit to the classic, creepy Weeping Angels introduced a couple of years ago. The ep is written by Steven Moffat, who wrote the original Angels treatments, so maybe it'll be good...?
