Re: [sdre-l]: what would you recomend...
<<>> I would definately recommend diary first, because it was their first... In my experience, the people that hear HIFTBSO first, seem to not end up liking sdre as much they should be liked. you know? Hearing the albums in the order in which they came out ... seems like a good idea because you can see how they have matured throughout the years. Like reading a book of their lives... (instead... listening to their lives).You do it in chronological order You don't pick up a book and read it from the last past page to the foreward. it wouldn't make sence. Same with their albums. It's a story of their lives... what goes on, growing up and realizing new things... don't you agree?
[sdre-l]: i think no one thinks enough
Someone wrote: I have to agree with you that SDRE has some lyrics that are too "intelligent" for most people. So of course the majority of the world is below comprehension, therefore that kind of music could never become "mainstream" or liked by the "majority"... I've always liked lines like "I dream to heal your wounds, but I bleed myself"... You know, Brittany Spears would just say "hey bro, I know you have problems, but i have problems too.." Not quite as poetic, but understood at its face value by almost everyone... So no, SDRE will never see the popularity it deserves, but that's ok... hi...my thoughts on that were not as positive as your own...i bet since jeremy writes all of his lyrics by making tapes of him making noises to their songs and having them all figure out what it sounds like he said, "they cant exactly be interpreted the same way he meant them. its just whatever the listener wants them to mean." whoever wrote that seems was in praise of theirself and critical of everyone else. it all depends on taste. and i don't think britney spears really writes that crap anyways. i think if some one elses style is to be strait to the point then that is their style and they shouldn't have to hide it under blankets of metaphors. and people who do use hidden meanings have a different style and that is how they should write.
Re: [sdre-l]: a little weird .... ummm ~> "ELECTRONIC MAIL"
You know, another type of music i've been really into lately is eastern music. Nothing western. More gypsy music, and arab. It's amazing.=)
Re: [sdre-l]: Batman
=) rad =) << Here is my dumb introduction... I'm still stuck on the batman thing. I used to love to listen to the soundtrack and I never really noticed that sunny day was on. After listening to it over and over for about 3 monthes I stoped. (this was before I got into "emo") Around a year ago I liked this guy who introduced me to sunny day. I right away went to the store to buy an album, all they had was diary. I fell in love with "song about an angel." I then bought "lp2", and "how it feels." I don't want to sit here and say oh my fav album is this because I will Just say I like diary alot. After listening to Sunny Day I went onto CDnow.com and went to relative to them... and it got me into liking emo. --Lisa >>
Re: [sdre-l]: a little weird .... ummm ~> "ELECTRONIC MAIL"
<< I don't know if it is the lame area in which I live, northeast Pennsylvania, or if I am not listening close enough, but I NEVER have heard SDRE/Jeremy on the radio anywhere. I have been listening to Sunny Day back since the Diary days. If anyone has any comments... feel free. >> I'm with you on that one. I don't even live in a "lame" area... i live in the east bay area, calif. And there is no sdre or jeremy on any radio stations, that i know of at all Never heard sdre on radio in the past 5 years or so that i've been into them. They are probably one of the only "emo" bands that i am into. If you were to look at all my other records... you would never think i was into sdre. hee heh They are THE MOST "popular" band (i guess you can say) that i am into. Most people are very suprised when they find out i'm into them.We have mutual friends though... (we=jeremy and will) ... so thats why i heard of them at the very beginning... other words i would have never been in that section of the record store. You know what i mean? heh he I'm more into (and i know maybe most of you would never have heard of these bands... if so, rad!) ... starting with the bigger bands: Neurosis, at the gates, will haven, multi facet, los crudos, dystopia, logical nonsense, sake, redscare, murder takes no holiday, current grimple stuff, ojo rojo, eldopa, submission hold, antischism, initial state, damad, buzzov*en, etc... etc.. and sunndy day real estate... jeremy solo.. is good... damn his voice is amazing. You (nice sdre fan) people should go to my web page and look around. Sign the guest book too, if you want. ( i want, heh he) ok, i go now. peace. _= ~ jessica ~ =_~> ~> ~> http://members.aol.com/thepitome5/index.html">how much longer do we have...
Re: [sdre-l]: introducing....
Sunny day stuff is on the radio? i didn't know that. Out of all the bands i am into, they are by far the most "well known." (one of the only "emo" bands too, hehe hee) So i guess that doesn't suprise me, wow. Thats how people got into them so quick, all of a sudden. Thats cool though, really it is. Learn something new every day, right? Take care every body. << I did try introducing myself a bit ago, but I don't think the message went through. So, I'll try again. Hmm, I got into SDRE by hearing Pillars and HIFTBSO on the radio (gasp) on a preview show, and, incidentally, I have not heard them since which gives you an idea of the abysmmal taste in music in my neck of the woods. That, and having heard they were good, compelled me to get How it feels... and that CD rocks, I do believe it is the best of the three full-length albums. I got the other two in reverse order, and just picked up Diary a couple weeks ago. I also had the chance to see the band in Spokane, and had tickets and the whole she-band, except that two days before I sprained my ankle rather severly and spent the night of the in the hospital, which is a terrible place to sleep. I live approx. 40 miles N. of Spokane, WA, which is across the state from Seattle and a polar opposite of that city. Suffice to say, I'll just thrilled to be leaving for college in Portland, OR next year. Other bands I like include: Pearl Jam, REM, the Wallflowers, the Cure, Bauhaus, Soundgarden, and a host of other bands which I can't remember, as well as Celtic/Native American traditional music. I have one sister who is the coolest person I know and has blue-purple spiked hair, something like Lars from Rancid, except not quite as tall. talk to y'all later D living in the mainstream is such a lame dream--[Henry Rollins] >>
Re: [sdre-l]: POLL: results; new poll
knowing it was sunny day? circles. I want to see the results from yo' last poll. peace.
Re: [sdre-l]: (no subject)
i read all of these daily. << i was wondering how many people see this daily or close to it it seems like there is only a couple people here?? ? >>
[sdre-l]: please read this, not sdre related, but very important to me...
I know this isn't sunny day related, but please take the time to read this, it's about Puerto Rico, and the shit it has to put up with by the american government... My whole family on both sides all still lives in puerto rico, and this island it talks about is a small island off the coast of PR. My moms whole family owned most of the island... many years back, and the us governmaent took it away from them... for the damn military.. anyways please read this..my cousin sent this to me. thanks, Jessica... FUERA LA MARINA DE VIEQUES * April 22, 1999 On April 19, 1999, American F-18 fighter planes, on a routine bombing maneuver over the island of Vieques (a small island of approximately 8,000 inhabitants 7 miles off the SE coast of Puerto Rico belonging to the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico), dropped "by mistake" two five-hundred pound bombs on a guard-post on Camp Garcia, US Navy. The incident resulted in the death of David Sanet, a security guard employed by a private company, and the wounding of four others, whose names have not yet been released. The four individuals wounded are being hospitalized at Fort Roosevelt (Puerto Rico), and the US Navy refuses to comment on their condition. This tragedy is only the latest incident in a history of US Naval presence on Vieques that extends back to the early 1940's, when the Navy expropriated 26,000 acres of land, more than 72 percent of the island's total area. This land was stolen primarily to use for artillery drills, bombing exercises, and munitions storage. The effects of this expropriation were devastating to the local population. The Playa Grande Sugar Mill, the center of the island's modest economy, was forced to close, and a severe social and economic crisis ensued. The US Interior Department planned to alleviate this crisis by relocating the island's entire population to Saint Croix, US Virgin Islands, and granting control of the remaining territory to the Navy. Fierce opposition quelled these plans, and every additional attempt at relocation over the course of twenty years. In 1964, the residents of Barrio Esperanza, on Vieques's south coast, organized opposition to stop the last forcible effort to relocate the remaining population. Opposition hasn't been limited to a defensive posture, however. The residents of Vieques have banded together in a number of aggressive efforts to halt the US Military's exploitation of the island. Fishermen of Vieques have demonstrated repeatedly against bombing and against restrictions limiting their use of the sea. There have been numerous demonstrations to raise public awareness to the catastrophic ecological consequences of the Navy's island operations. In 1983, the Governor of Puerto Rico, Carlos Barcelo, added his own voice to the popular opposition by issuing formal charges against the Navy for ecological damage caused to Vieques. Today, in the wake of this senseless bombing, the demonstrations continue. The island's population has vowed to stage continuous protest, and the fishermen have said that they will fish in restricted waters. The Mayor of Vieques, Manuela Santiago, has drafted a "cease and desist" resolution to permanently halt all military operations on the island. This resolution, once passed by the Vieques Municipal Assembly, will serve as the consummate declaration of collective opposition to American Military presence on the island. Please voice your support for the struggle of Vieques by: 1. Appending your name to this petition to President William Clinton and Secretary of Defense William Cohen. 2. Forwarding this petition to as many individuals as possible. If your name on the petition is #50, #100, #150 ... please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Petition to: The President of the United States of America, William Clinton, and US Secretary of Defense, William Cohen. We, the undersigned, are outraged at American Naval operations on the island of Vieques. The more than five decade long use of 72 percent of the island for artillery drills, bombing exercises, and storage of munitions has ravaged the environment, has dislocated the island's population, and has now resulted in loss of human life. In accordance with Vieques Mayor Manuela Santiago's resolution, we petition that the US Navy cease and desist all operations on the island of Vieques. Note: It is best if you highlight the text in its entirety and COPY it onto a new outgoing message, add your name to the bottom of the list, then send it on. Thanks. 1. Kevin Hoffman, San Diego, CA 2. Aned Yarelis Muniz Gracia, Corozal, PR 3. Dr. Rev. Thomas Marshall, Santa Cruz, CA 4. Alba Yarimar Muniz Gracia, Corozal, PR 5. Freddie Marrero, New York, NY 6. Heidi J. Figueroa Sarriera, Trujillo Alto, PR 7. Edwin Ramos Martmnez, Trujillo Alto, PR 8
Re: [[sdre-l]:SF show?
Micah~ No it is not at the bottom of the hill (too small in there...)
it is at fort mason. ( i live here, but i think i'm gonna miss
them... leaving for 3 months to puerto rico visit family and all...)
And yeah i think it is on july 3rd, because the next night, they be playing
in southern california (again, mandy... you can see them this time...) You
from the bay area micah? good luck finding all the info out, and getting
your ticket. peace.
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Re: [sdre-l]: bueller....? bueller....?
<< Re: the July 3rd show in SF does ANYONE have specific info? brian? why is this date not on the official site? have tickets gone on sale yet? anyone on the list going to this gig? gettin ansy...ana. >> ===>>> If i'm in town, i'll be going... But most likely i'll be outta here by then =(... Which is alright i guess, how often do we get to travel / ... how often do we see sdre... well it is a pretty close match, but sorry guys i think traveling sounds a little more appealing right now heh heee (it's always nice to get away isn't it?) ~>jessica (i know this is very much not sdre related, but just to add this in... last night at san quentin: Manny Babbit was executed... very intense night, mellow protest, candles, etc...=> This man was a vietnam vet poor, black, man who was sent to war at age 17 (((remember in the 60's racism was a big thing, and so the U.S. sent all the minorities before sending over any of the whites.))) This government taught him how to kill, and how to fight, how to hate, etc... We lost that war, and many men came back mentaly ill, crazy both from war, and that agent orange crap. They refused to treat many of them, and gave these men (that were still alive) no respect. Manny Babbit was crazy from war, and acted crazy... he would hide in bushes all the time pretending to be shooting all these people, wearing army gear, etc... Well one night while acting out his "flashed back" crazy memories of the war, he scared a woman walking by and led her to have a heart attack. She died. Now Manny went to trial, and lacking money, he got a public defender defending him.The public defender was a drunk (they are now proving) and handled his case very poorly. Manny was put on death row... for first degree murder. (did i mention that he's black...that didn't have anything to do with it right? nah)Now, it's almost 10 years later. Manny was murdered last night in a gas chamber.. while all we can do, was stand out side in silence. People ask why those boys in Colorado shot all those kids at school?Why? Well look at our examples Our government teaches these vets. to be savages, go off and kill, protecting them, and murdering others in their names... Then when they get back, the government spits on them, turns their backs to this illness they have developed, and when an infortunate thing happends on behalf of this illness that should have been taken care of, the government takes care of it with vengance. and violence solve all problems with violence, kill kill kill They teach those to kill, and when they kill ~ they teach them that "killing is bad", by killing them. I ask anyone who has read this just to pray, or meditate, or think, or whatever you do about Manny Babbit.And the other people waiting in line to be murdered, by those who taught us to murder. .Love one another. Thanks for reading this XjessicaX
Re: [sdre-l]: SDRE
In a message dated 99-05-03 14:19:03 EDT, TinyTigre1 writes: << hey you dork...they didnt even play in southern california until november 20th of last year. that was their first show ever in california, so no, she really didnt have a chance to see them live. ~carissa >> Heh Heh you make me laugh...
Re: [sdre-l]: re: SDRE
=) c o n g r a d u l a t i o n s = ) << wow! i've gathered much information from everyone, and it looks like i'll FINALLY get to see Sunny Day live sooni'm all smiles over it! mandy >>
Re: [sdre-l]: SDRE
A little judgemental? sorry hun... i was completely polite, and simply asking why you hadn't gotten the chance to see them live...i mean you could have said," i've been out of town everytime they have come through er somethin" thats rad you've been a fan for years, and you don't need to to explain anything to me. =) damn. << hey...i wouldn't call you mean..but i would call you a little judgemental...just because i haven't seen them live doesn't mean i'm not a fan,there's lots of bands that i admire that i haven't seen live...YET, and like i said i'm the only SDRE fan I know...the point is I do want to see them..I plan on seeing them...i hope thats a good enough explanation for youmandy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mandy, i don't mean to be mean, but if you've liked > sdre for years, why > haven't you ever seen them live? They've been to > southern cal before... > heh hei dunno, just wonderin, it seems weird to > miss them if you are such > a long devoted > fan. >>
Re: [sdre-l]: Lil' Red Hearts
THATS RAD. << OK. Dude: I found myself in New York this weekend (and lucky me, the Pot Fest was held this weekend as well, hehe). I strolled down to a record store in search of Sunny Day, tracked them down, and flipped thru a pretty extensive collection. The images on them were relatively crappy, and there was no mention of SubPop anywhere on many of them, so I presumed that several kids had put together compilations or live recordings or whatever, and somehow the store bought them. There were three odd CD covers on the rack that were simple brown paper with minimal writing. I grabbed the perfect one, noted the handwriting looked like Jer-yummy's, but immediately dismissed it, flipped it over to find a heart w/ "Jeremy" written in it, and thought, "How gay. Why the hell would someone do such a corny thing as pulling the lead singer's name in a heart? Duh." As I was making my purchase, I asked the guy behind the counter if the CDs where made by the public, and he half-scoffingly replied, "We get stuff through the record companies. Sunny Day's a small enough band that they'll make a thousand copies of a recording and distribute it." So idiot girl here, slowly starts to piece all the glaring evidence together, after being blinded by cynicism. The three brown covers must have been a product of Jeremy, and whoever else, spending hours upon hours in a studio next to a stack of live recordings, copying them onto CDs, armed with paper bags, scissors, glue, a couple different color pens, and cutesy little stamps, intending to identify and engineer little pockets for those CDs. Um, dude, that seriously KICKS-ASS! That is so EXTRAORDINARILY thoughtful, he wins many a_little_red_star for such an endeavor. Does anyone know anything about these? Anyone seen them? Any idea how many exist? Am I completely off-base on them being handmade by the demi-god himself? I intended to scan the cover, and I will if anyone wants to see it, but I can't do it right now... >>
Re: [sdre-l]: SDRE
Mandy, i don't mean to be mean, but if you've liked sdre for years, why haven't you ever seen them live? They've been to southern cal before... heh hei dunno, just wonderin, it seems weird to miss them if you are such a long devoted fan. << hey! i honestly never even knew Sunny Day Real Estate had such a big following..ok so i know that sounds pretty lame, but nobody i know...and i mean nobody has even heard of them...i've been listening to them for years and i think they're the most beautiful band i've ever heard...but you know how those closed minds are..hard to get through...anyhow i'm glad i found this site, and this mailing list..my next mission is to see them live..i've only heard nothing but good things about their shows (i'll make one of those close minded friends of mine go with me!) : ) hopefully they'll be in So Cal soon! this is really cool..thanks for listening! mandy >>
Re: [sdre-l]: emo tag....hip hop thread
Mikie. you need to hear some more hip hop not this tribe called quest bullshit...they aint hip hopok i guess they are fi you think so, but look out there (not big record stores or mtv) but other places... and there are some hard working individuals, who have a lot to say and express it in a hip hop way... << there are only a few hip hop bands out there even worth being listened tootribe called quest, and US3...they both rawk...very political mikie! >>
Re: [sdre-l]: emo tag.
VERY TRUE... =) << I've always considered punk and hip hop to be very similar. The both involve music that inspires a whole movement and lifestyle. They are both (if they are thoughtful and meaningful) very political and smart. Both movements also seek to make changes in society, while society as a whole has considered the music to be threatening.maybe i'm an asshole In a message dated 99-05-01 00:08:06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << THERE ARE A LOT OF HIP HOP BANDS OUT THERE: THAT ARE VERY POLITICAL... AND NOT TALKING ABOUT RAPE-ING BITCHES, AND POPPIN' CAPS IN PEOPLE'S ASSES ECT.LIKE "the coup" FROM OUT HERE (OAKLAND) OR "black star" OR "the roots" I GUESS THOSE ARE PRETTY UNDERGROUND COMPARED TO WHAT YOU MAY SEE OF HIP HOP (I.E. WHATS ON/OR HAS BEEN ON MTV) ANYWAY, YOU SHOULD CHECK THOSE GROUPS OUT I MENTIONED IF YOU WANT TO HEAR POLITICAL HIP HOP... DAMN GOOD LYRICS.=) xJESSICAx >> >>
Re: [sdre-l]: show on the 4th of july
AT THE DRIVE IN DOES ROCK... THEY BE SO GOOD. << hey guys, if you have the opportunity to see at the drive-in live, DON'T MISS THEM !!! i have never seen sdre live, but at the drive in live is the best show i have ever seen !!! I'm not kiddingthose guys are INCRDIBLE !!! check out their album in casino ourt before the show...if you know the songs, you'll appreciate more the show think.. DON't MISS THIS SHOW IF YOU CAN GO Thibault brazen 29, Palettes 1212 GENEVA SWITZERLAND >>
Re: [sdre-l]: emo tag.
THERE ARE A LOT OF HIP HOP BANDS OUT THERE: THAT ARE VERY POLITICAL... AND NOT TALKING ABOUT RAPE-ING BITCHES, AND POPPIN' CAPS IN PEOPLE'S ASSES ECT.LIKE "the coup" FROM OUT HERE (OAKLAND) OR "black star" OR "the roots" I GUESS THOSE ARE PRETTY UNDERGROUND COMPARED TO WHAT YOU MAY SEE OF HIP HOP (I.E. WHATS ON/OR HAS BEEN ON MTV) ANYWAY, YOU SHOULD CHECK THOSE GROUPS OUT I MENTIONED IF YOU WANT TO HEAR POLITICAL HIP HOP... DAMN GOOD LYRICS.=) xJESSICAx << this is my first post, other than my hello thing. well, anyway, i have to disagree with one of the things said. i am not a huge fan of rap.hip-hop, but some of it does have some good thoughts and ideas. for one example, look at arrested development. i dont know much about them at all, but i remember hearing some of their stuff in a friends car. i remember one song specifically where they are talking about political prisoners and the such...i dont know. oh well. sorry for being off topic. byebye. .gregory.* >>
Re: [sdre-l]: portland tix
GO TO TICKETWEB.COM tHATS WHERE I GO TO GET TICKETS ON LINE. xJESSICAx << hey everyone. =) i went to the mcmenamins website to try to buy tix online for the portland show on the 27th, but they weren't selling them on there. is this just because they don't go on sale til tomorrow or is there somewhere else i need to go to get tix? if someone could clear me up that would be great. thanx. take care. =) john np: model engine "the lean years tradition" >>
Re: [sdre-l]: PDX show!
In a message dated 99-04-28 22:23:05 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << WOo hoo! So, its all offical now, saw the ad in the Willamette Weekly. Sdre playing crystal ballroom may 27th. Tickets on sale this Saturday. woo fucking hoo. jane. >> Wheres the crystal ballroom?probably not in my state never heard of it...
Re: [sdre-l]: OTS Promise Ring
In a message dated 99-04-27 19:26:18 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Any reason for the PromiseRing hatred, and what bands am I allowed to like Thank you, God of indie for pointing me in the right direction. What kind of clothes do you wear so I can be MORE like you?? Marc >> heh hee Your funny marc. : end sarcasm :
Re: [sdre-l]: UW show last night!
<< I think the people who didn't get to go to the show are entitled to free videos from it. What do ya say? Jared >> Thats what I'm talkin about...Anyone who video taped Sunny Day, hook me up...;) <~ (lets pretend those are puppy dog eyes, begging) I've seen sdre a number of times already and haven't had the chance to video tape them... i would love a copy. I live down here in the bay area (oakland), so i couldn't go to the show... :(...in Seattle. I was born there, and lived there for a while (along with a lot of other places.. heh hee) peace X jessica X* http://members.aol.com/thepitome5/index.html">how much longer do we have... *
Re: [sdre-l]: uoregon
In a message dated 99-04-19 19:54:50 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << hey, any oregonites have the 411 on the u oregon show in may?? where to get tickets??? info about the venue?? i'd be willing to fly out cuz it's around my birthday.all the info would be grately appreciated. thanks, jamie in chicago* >> I'm not from oregon, (oakland baby, heh hee) but i'm sure you can tickets through ticketweb.com~ ~ ~ ~ ~you need a credit card/debit card though. Just know where they be playing at peace. X jessica X
