Re: [SMW-devel] Question regarding the policy of freezing SMW 3.0 milestone issues

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Currently, 13 issues are open for milestone "SMW 3.0.0" [1].

How about adding a new tag "blocker" and mark those issues that are really 
mandatory to be solved before the next release. All others could go to 3.0.1 or 
3.1?

[1] 
https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A%22SMW+3.0.0%22

Am 13.09.2018 um 11:20 schrieb Jeroen De Dauw:
> Hey,
> 
> I am rather unhappy that the volunteer nature of the work keeps being brought 
> up as a reply to the release process not being good. Yes, you cannot 
> reasonably demand that a volunteer invests more of their time, or that they 
> spend it in a certain way. The issue here is a poor release process, which in 
> my view is quite orthogonal.
> 
> There are also many stakeholders beyond James that are affected, and they are 
> not irrelevant. Most noticeably the users of the software, which are not 
> getting access to long developed features. There are also the other people 
> that contribute to the software. Speaking for myself, I am not enthusiastic 
> at all to contribute to a project if it is not clear my improvements will see 
> the light of day in a reasonable time frame, and things I previously 
> contributed have been sitting in the dark for over a year. Such a situation 
> is also not appealing to potential contributors.
> 
> Some time ago I started work on adding visual editing to the Maps extension, 
> to be released as version 6.0. At some point I ran out of time having gotten 
> only part of the way there. As there was already useful functionality added, 
> I decided to just release that rather than potentially keeping it unavailable 
> for months. So the users win. And contributors to Maps know that their 
> contributions are likely to be released within a week or two.
> 
> The same could have been done for SMW 3.0 long ago. Instead, new features 
> have kept being added to the milestone.
> 
> Now if James does not want to spend time on doing a release that is his 
> decision. Should it also be his decision to block any release form happening 
> because he is the primary contributor, even if that throws all other 
> stakeholders under the buss? I don't think so. And yes, that is what is 
> happening. I have offered spending time on doing a 3.0 release in the past, 
> always getting a "you can't do this and don't rush me" type of reply.
> 
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Re: [SMW-devel] SMWQueryResult mock object for testing SemanticResultFormat

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roundtrip example

$sf = new SerializerFactory();
$queryResultJSON = json_encode( $sf->getSerializerFor( $queryResult
)->serialize( $queryResult ) );

$decodedQueryResult = json_decode( $queryResultJSON );
$queryResultFromJSON = $sf->getDeserializerFor( $decodedQueryResult
)->deserialize( $decodedQueryResult );

Am 03.08.2017 um 15:05 schrieb planetenxin:
> found
> 
> https://doc.semantic-mediawiki.org/classSMW_1_1Serializers_1_1QueryResultSerializer.html
> 
> Let's see if this can be used...


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Re: [SMW-devel] SMWQueryResult mock object for testing SemanticResultFormat

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found

https://doc.semantic-mediawiki.org/classSMW_1_1Serializers_1_1QueryResultSerializer.html

Let's see if this can be used...

Am 03.08.2017 um 14:37 schrieb planetenxin:
> Another option would be json_encode / json_decode but this would require
> implementing JsonSerializable interface as far as I can see.

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Re: [SMW-devel] SMWQueryResult mock object for testing SemanticResultFormat

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Another option would be json_encode / json_decode but this would require
implementing JsonSerializable interface as far as I can see.

@mwjames: any ideas suggestions from your side?

Am 03.08.2017 um 12:46 schrieb Stephan Gambke:
> Although, i just found a class QueryFactory, that has a function
> newQueryResult( Store $store, Query $query, $results = array(),
> $continue = false ) that might be of use.
> Maybe James HK has a better idea.



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Re: [SMW-devel] SMWQueryResult mock object for testing SemanticResultFormat

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Stephan, thanks for your feedback. In the meanwhile I had another idea.

How about creating test data from serialized SMWQueryResults?

I saw, that SMWQueryResult provides a serializeToArray() function [1].
Is there an easy way to "unserializeFromArray()"?

[1]
https://doc.semantic-mediawiki.org/classSMWQueryResult.html#a275ce1f7f02fe2e13ad73f49512185b6

Am 03.08.2017 um 09:58 schrieb Stephan Gambke:
> Yes, SRF does not have a lot of testing, so thx for improving and sorry
> for not having much to copy from! Maybe [0] could give you an idea on
> how to create your mock object. See [1] for documentation on how to work
> with mock objects.
> 
> Cheers
> Stephan
> 
> [0]
> https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticResultFormats/blob/master/tests/phpunit/Unit/Formats/TreeTest.php#L56
> 
> 
> 
> [1]
> https://phpunit.de/manual/4.8/en/test-doubles.html#test-doubles.mock-objects
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[SMW-devel] SMWQueryResult mock object for testing SemanticResultFormat

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I want to enhance existing SRF graph format test. My idea is, to create
a mock SMWQueryResult (=test data) that will be passed to function
getResultText (at the moment, could be getGraphvizCode or something later).

I had a look at existing tests [1] and docs [2][3] as well as
CoreMockObjectRepository Class [4] but could not find an example how to
create a mock for SMWQueryResult.

Is creating a mock for SMWQueryResult a good idea at all?

Could someone help with an example?

Many thx!

[1]
https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticResultFormats/tree/master/tests/phpunit/Unit/Formats
[2] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Using_mock_objects
[3]
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_result_printers#Writing_tests
[4]
https://doc.semantic-mediawiki.org/classSMW_1_1Tests_1_1Utils_1_1Mock_1_1CoreMockObjectRepository.html#a0346be0a0d6284eaea8e79228455ac09

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[SMW-devel] Dead links to smw.org/doc

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It seems, that the docs are no longer available on semantic-mediwiki.org.

Example: semantic-mediawiki.org/doc/classSMWDataItem.html

Could this be fixed as it creates a lot of dead links in google etc.

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Re: [SMW-devel] Dead links to smw.org/doc

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Karsten,

sorry, I was unclear. The links are indeed not dead but redirects you to
smw.org Main Page.

Would be great to have the doxygen running again soon.

/Alexander

Am 21.12.2015 um 13:07 schrieb kghbln:
> Thanks for the note. Indeed doxygen in not installed on the new server
> yet. However I would have thought that links like these are
> automatically redirected to the smw.o homepage instead of pointing to
> the void. Need to have a look at the rewrite rules.
> 
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Re: [SMW-devel] Obtain data as simple array

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I just came across this old question because we need to execute an ask 
query from php and work with the results.

Is an internal API call really the best/most efficient way to do this?

/Alexander

Am 31.01.2013 um 17:29 schrieb Yury Katkov:
> Hi-hi!
>
> I would use SMW ask API for that. The returning json object is little
> bit complex, but this is not usually a big problem
> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Ask_API
> -
> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:21 PM,  > wrote:
>
> __
>
> Hello, I am hacking SMW, because I need to retrive some data from
> the mediawiki database and use it to render skin. I know this is the
> dirty hack, but I do not see another way.
>
> I need execute query like this
>
> {{
>
> #ask: [[Title picture::+]] [[Category: some category]]
>
> | ?Title picture
>
> | format = ## here some special format ? ##
>
> | limit=10
>
> }}
>
> and receive the answer like a simple array
>
> array(0 => array("self" => Title object,
>
> "Title_picture" => Title object),
>
> 1 => array("self" => Title objec 
>
> .
>
> While the actual data is receiving by format function, specified in
> the query, I dont have any idea how to receive data like simple
> array. Do I need to write my own format function ?
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[SMW-devel] TypeID Info on smw.org

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I'm thinking of annotating pages of category 'Datatypes' on smw.org with 
typeID information (_wpg, _num, ...) and show them in the overview table 
[1]. This would be helpful as a reference if you are working with the API.

What do you think?

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] D3.js

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... I like Exhibit 3 because of a clearer (optical) design and numerous 
export formats of filtered values (Keshif seems to put everything to 
Google - bah).

/Alexander


 Of the three, Keshif's UI feels the most alive - there's always
 something happening as you move the mouse around. I don't know whether
 that's useful or not, and I'd be curious to hear anyone's opinions on
 these browsing interfaces. In theory, the SMW system could support any
 one of these - it has supported Exhibit in the past, and I think it
 could again, although maybe people find one of the other options superior.

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[SMW-devel] [SF] Embedded Special:RunQuery creates strange charaters

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Hi,

embedded {{Special:RunQuery/Map_query}} creates strange characters like

UNIQ225794f6d43c6688-h-0--QINU

before headings or with {{#tree:}} parser function from 
Extension:TreeAndMenu. I'd guess that there are also other cases where 
this happens.

Example: http://scratchpad.referata.com/wiki/Test_TreeAndQuery

Any ideas?

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Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Embedded Special:RunQuery creates strange charaters

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I found another hint that may help debugging:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:NewPageCSS#Outputs_nonsense

Am 08.10.2014 08:20, schrieb planetenxin:
 Hi,

 embedded {{Special:RunQuery/Map_query}} creates strange characters like

 UNIQ225794f6d43c6688-h-0--QINU

 before headings or with {{#tree:}} parser function from
 Extension:TreeAndMenu. I'd guess that there are also other cases where
 this happens.

 Example: http://scratchpad.referata.com/wiki/Test_TreeAndQuery

 Any ideas?

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Re: [SMW-devel] Rating system

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Hi Ben,

are you aware of this discussion: 
https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Yury_Katkov/s13n_stands_for_semantification

/Alexander

Am 16.05.2014 04:47, schrieb Benjamin Pelletier:
 I have a Semantic MediaWiki installation http://ropewiki.com/ that has
 a large number of Canyon pages
 http://ropewiki.com/index.php/Category:Canyons, where each of those
 pages describes a different hiking trip. These pages
 http://ropewiki.com/index.php/Havasu_Canyon have a number of
 properties on them, one of them being Quality (how good of a trip it
 is).  Currently, editors can edit the wikitext to change this property.
   I would like make a feature that allows people to vote on what Quality
 they think a particular Canyon is, and then the overall Quality (based
 on the votes received) would be displayed on the page.  I can think of a
 few different ways this might be done, but I was hoping to get some
 advice from people who are really familiar with Semantic MediaWiki for
 which method is likely to produce the best results with the least effort.

 == Single Voting data wiki page ==
 I could make an extension that automatically edits a particular wiki
 page (perhaps Voting data) in response to a click.  It would read the
 existing content, add the new vote, recalculate ratings, generate
 semantic properties with those ratings, and save the new page version.
   I'm not sure if this is possible, but it seems like the best solution
 if it is.  Although, there might be a problem eventually if, say, 300
 people each vote on 10 canyons, then my page size is going to be like
 60k (which may cause performance issues?)

 == Stand-alone widget ==
 I could make an extension that injects custom PHP that talks to an
 entirely separate (non-MediaWiki) database to store and report the
 voting data.  This same approach would work on any website, even if it
 wasn't a MediaWiki install.  The down side of this approach is that I
 have no idea how I would (could?) integrate the voting results into a
 semantic search.  Can semantic data be stored stably in the SMW database
 without being defined in any wikitext?

 == Per-page voting data ==
 I could maybe make an extension that automatically edits the current
 page and injects an additional vote line so all the quality votes for a
 given page are stored on that page.  But, this seems like the most
 difficult option, and there would be a bunch of voting data junk in the
 wikitext content.

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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

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+1 for 2.0 for the same reason, Ryan mentioned.

Am 20.01.2014 15:45, schrieb Ryan Glasnapp:
 The 10.0 versioning makes logical sense, however,  2.0 makes a whole lot more 
 sense from an end users standpoint. People are going to get confused with the 
 large jump, and wonder where the other versions are (and may also not 
 understand why the jump was made).

 Also, it maintains some consistency with MediaWiki's versioning system.

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Re: [SMW-devel] Making SMW semver.org compliant

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+1 for using the semver.org definitions. This is especially important in 
managed (enterprise) IT environments (ITIL...) where major changes 
triggers different processes. It is also important to tag all 
extensions. This is very often not the case yet...

/Alexander

Am 17.01.2014 10:41, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
 Hi,

 +1 to dropping the initial 1. that will never ever change.

 However, since the 1 was unchanged since we are out of beta, it seems to
 me that we are currently treating the second number as our major
 version. In other words, we are at version 9.0.1 and the next version
 should be 10.0.0. This is a bit like what was done for Java ;-).

 I don't think users will be overly confused or upset in any case. Having
 more relevant first digits will certainly be good for clarity.

 Cheers,

 Markus

 On 16/01/14 20:34, Jeroen De Dauw wrote:
 Hey,

 I think it would be nice if SMW was http://semver.org/ compliant.

 This means version numbers would look like MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH with a
 possible stability suffix. This is very close to what we are already
 doing, except that we are sticking a 1. in front of it. Having this
 shifted by one might not be confusing to people familiar with the SMW
 release cycle, though might be surprising to those who are not.

 How about switching to this schema for out next major release, which
 would then end up being 2.0?

 If we make this switch, the next major release seems like the best point
 to do this. Coincidentally one advantage to picking this release for
 such a change is that it makes us skip 1.10, which some users might
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Video] Semantic MediaWiki 1.9 install using Composer

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James,

thanks for creating and sharing the videos!

/Alexander

Am 19.12.2013 12:14, schrieb James HK:
 Hi,

 I had some spare minutes on my hand so I thought I'd make a quick
 video [1] that explains in plain and simple terms on how to install
 Semantic MediaWiki 1.9 using Composer.

 SMW 1.9 only requires three steps in order to be full functional:

 # 1 Install MediaWiki
 # 2 Add composer require mediawiki/semantic-media-wiki @dev
 # 3 Run php update.php

 The videos show an out-of-the box MW 1.22 installation with no
 additional settings required in LocalSettings. Of course if you need
 to adjust some of the default settings then this has to been done
 after the installation.

 The installation of Semantic Result Formats can be viewed in a
 separate video [2].

 I hope the videos are helpful to some users.

 PS: @dev is being used as no official release have been made in
 connection with SMW 1.9 and composer.

 PSS: For an upgrade guideline, see [3].

 [1] https://vimeo.com/82255034

 [2] https://vimeo.com/82258857

 [3] 
 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Help_talk:Installation/MW_1.22_and_SMW_1.9beta_install/upgrade

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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW integration in other tools

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Hi Bernhard,

we usually use Data Integration Tools to extract, transform, load (ETL) 
data from and to SMW using the MediaWiki API.

This approach is generic and saves us from creating tool specific 
extensions. This way, one can easily integrate other databases, excel, 
web services, SAP Solutions and so on.

If you scan the market for ETL tools you might find some promising 
candidates...

/Alexander Gesinn

Am 12.11.2013 08:40, schrieb Krabina Bernhard:
 Hi,

 as great as SMW is by itself, I'd like to hear your thoughts or experiences 
 regarding integration in or collaboration with other tools.

 In some cases, SMW can be a real competitor to other bigger solutions, in 
 other it might not have a chance to compete. Many other tools offer wikis as 
 well and we know, how poor they perform compared to SMW. So the question is, 
 how could an integration of SMW be done? With what other tools? What would be 
 feasible and what not?

 Let me share my first thoughts:

 Microsoft Sharepoint
 
 * focus: portal/document management
 * SMW replacing the internal wiki

 Liferay
 ---
 * focus: enterprise portal
 * SMW replacing the internal wiki
 * 
 http://www.liferay.com/de/documentation/liferay-portal/6.2/user-guide/-/ai/working-together-with-the-wiki-liferay-portal-6-2-user-guide-08-en
 * http://www.liferay.com/de/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/Wiki+Portlet
 * the wiki is completely integrated with Liferay’s user management, tagging, 
 and security features.
 * Java-based

 Alfresco
 
 * focus: document management
 * SMW replacing the internal wiki
 * Java-based
 * PHP Api

 Drupal
 ---
 * focus: web cms
 * usecase unclear...
 * PHP based!

 Zimbra/Zarafa/OpenText..
 ---
 * focus: groupware
 * SMW adding wiki to the groupware, importing/exporting content (LDAP, vcard, 
 ical)...

 others?

 -Bernhard

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Re: [SMW-devel] SRF Filtered calendar view released

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Hey guys,

that's AWESOME! Really cool.

/Alexander

Am 14.11.2012 16:06, schrieb Neill Mitchell:
 Hi all,

 I am pleased to announce the final release of the calendar view
 functionality for the result format filtered, part of the Semantic
 Result Formats extension.

 This view outputs the query results into a calendar and provides dynamic
 filtering. In addition the functionality to switch between views has
 been added, much in the same way as the old exhibit format.

 Further details at:
 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Filtered_format

 Example usage can be seen at:
 http://wiltshireparentcarercouncil.co.uk/en/Children_Calendar
 and
 http://www.prescientsoftware.co.uk/wpcc_dev/index.php/User:Stephan_Gambke 
 (showing
 the view switching and distance slider)

 == Download ==

 Git repository:
 git clone
 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats.git

 == Requirements ==

 * SMW 1.18 beta 2 and later.
 * MediaWiki 1.17.2 or later
 * A javascript capable browser.

 Many thanks to Stephan Gambke for coding this. As always, he has done an
 absolutely fantastic job.
 The project was sponsored by Prescient Software.

 Cheers
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[SMW-devel] Multilingual property labels in Special:Browse ($smwgTranslate)

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Hi,

I tried to figure out how to enable multilingual labels for properties 
in Special:Browse:

*s et $smwgTranslate=true
* added interwiki link to database
* added interwiki link to my property page [[en:MyProp_en]]

$smwgTranslate is disabled and can not be enabled.

  ## -- FEATURE IS DISABLED --
  # Setting this to true allows to translate all the labels within
  # the browser GIVEN that they have interwiki links.
  ##
  $smwgTranslate  
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/doc/SMW__Settings_8php.html#f00ddf2f8f874b5ad0b86b7f0d04c27d
  =false;


Is there another recommended way (system messages?) to have property 
labels translated? Is there a way to enable this feature?


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