Re: [silk] the business of charity!?!

2009-03-24 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Bonobashi wrote:
 India. This has never been stated in so many words, but the examples speak 
 for themselves. The individual author responsible also needs to be known and 
 identified in his political context for the article to make full sense.

   
Well, it's a nice example to show how anybody can write anything without
thinking. We need to let his students know so that they can keep away
from him or sing that very famous Pink Floyd number (to him, in class)
about education, derisions and fat wives beating the crap out of the
teachers... what was that song now?

That said, any amount of punning will not make me pan down 100s of lines
to read what you have to say, however well it is composed. Come on,
please take a moment and try to delete at least a few lines before sending.

Does anybody know if I sigh will make for an awful pun in any language?

Venkat



Re: [silk] Prime Ministerial candidate

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
Also I think the trance band Enigma named a song Mea Culpa which means,
My fault or My blame (the root of the word culpable) in Latin.

Although it appears the local police may have tried to stop the party where
that music was played., lest there be obscene dancing... :-)

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:24 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Monday 23 Mar 2009 9:11:34 am Biju Chacko wrote:
   where
  the heck else would those of us who missed out on a classical
  education have come across the word?



Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
Scandinavian women in general are very sexually liberated (probably the most
in the world, although when it comes to being unshackled by traditional
views, the Aussies are supposed to be close if not more so, but I base that
solely on scuttlebutt). They are also very independent -- the most truly
equal in terms of gender relations I've seen -- like if you try to pick up
the check too often when going out (no one really dates there, in that
this formal courtship idea is viewed as somewhat anachronistic), you will
honestly anger the woman (as opposed to the cake-and-eat-it-too feminism
stage that I would argue is more the case in the US -- that battle is still
in the who has the power stage).

This openness is seen in examples such as the City of Copenhagen employing
topless women to hold speed limit signs to address a speeding problem in the
city. Paid for with taxpayer money. Or topless beaches. Or sexually explicit
content on TV. One might almost believe that the women there enjoy sex for
its own sake, and aren't afraid to want it. Shri Ram Sena would crap their
pants.

To spite the prognostications that loose sexual morals is a harbinger of
social distentegration, Scandinavia consistently scores as the highes
quality of living in the world. I dare say, looking at places that are
oppressive about sexuality, they are far further down on the list. I
wouldn't posit cause for coincidence, but it does make me picture Tyler
Durden leaning over to them on an airplane saying, ...so how's that working
out for you... being [so pure] (N.B. my change to his original quote which
was ...being clever, after Edward Norton's character says something about
single-serving friends)...

I speak of today's generation though -- my mom's generation was more
conservative and such -- they were growing up during the aftermath of WWII
where there was plenty of deprivation and devistation that needed to be
remedied. Not terribly different than the Boomer generation (who are seeming
to find Jesus in large numbers, and obnoxiously prosetylizing their new
enlightenment as if to demonstrate their solipcism that has harmed the US in
many ways). The younger generations in the US are pretty different, and more
overtly salacious (thanks, Paris Hilton...)

Having been smitten by a number of nordic damsels, I will say that one of
the thing that is so strange is the sheer percentage of young women who are
simply gorgeous. I leave it to the cultural geneticists to explain...

That said, Danish pronunciation can be a bitch. Your vexation is quite
entitled. But it's only 5.5M people. That's like a rounding-error in India.
So, in aggregate, just in pure numbers, there must be far more sex going on
in India than in Denmark. How do you like them butter cookies, Danes?!? :-)

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was born in the US to an Indian dad from Bangalore and a Danish mom.

 This is a true story.  One time I was in Helsingør, AKA Hamlet's
 hometown, at a technology conference, and I was single, and I met a
 comely young Danish woman, also single who looked at me That Way, and
 thought there might be something there, but I couldn't pronounce her
 first name and she didn't think that was cute, so I got nowhere.  I
 recognize that having a Danish mom doesn't make this your fault, but
 I'm still bitter.

  -Tim




Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur


 Welcome to the asylum, and please wipe the razors clean of blood after use.
 Your courtesy will be appreciated by other users.

I have a theory to solve problems that I call Occam's Razor-slashed
wrists, -- it states that whatever the most depressing explanation is,
that's the most likely one. I'll make sure to clean up after use. :-)



 PS: I happen to be a friend of the only fat Dane in Denmark. It started
 with pity and ended in friendship. I couldn't help feeling sorry for him; he
 married an Iyengar.

It's hard to beat the US for obesity (though the percentages vary quite a
bit from state to state). But there are corpulent Danes. Beer and pork can
add up, calorically.

I'm not sure what marrying an Iyengar means (I know of BKE Iyengar from
studying yoga, as well as the fact that the B stands for Bellur, which is
where he's from. That and a rupee will buy me some paan.). Can anyone
explain, so as to broaden my cultural knowledge?


Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Bonobashi wrote:
  Most of the list will be helpful, except for morose, cranky old buzzards and 
 mailing list fascists who are obsessed with top posting, and who have names 
 beginning with V and ending with i.
   
Ahem! ends with a 't', guess you're still smarting from the last time I
sighed. :)

-Venkat



Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
Regards,
Kiran

-original message-
Subject: Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member
From: Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in
Date: 24/03/2009 3:29 pm




--- On Tue, 24/3/09, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member
 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
 Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 2:45 PM
 
 
  Welcome to the asylum, and please wipe the razors
 clean of blood after use.
  Your courtesy will be appreciated by other users.
 
 I have a theory to solve problems that I call Occam's
 Razor-slashed
 wrists, -- it states that whatever the most depressing
 explanation is,
 that's the most likely one. I'll make sure to clean up
 after use. :-)
 
 
 
  PS: I happen to be a friend of the only fat Dane in
 Denmark. It started
  with pity and ended in friendship. I couldn't help
 feeling sorry for him; he
  married an Iyengar.
 
 It's hard to beat the US for obesity (though the
 percentages vary quite a
 bit from state to state). But there are corpulent Danes.
 Beer and pork can
 add up, calorically.
 
 I'm not sure what marrying an Iyengar means (I know of
 BKE Iyengar from
 studying yoga, as well as the fact that the B stands for
 Bellur, which is
 where he's from. That and a rupee will buy me some paan.).
 Can anyone
 explain, so as to broaden my cultural knowledge?

No problem at all!

An archaic term from the time that the Angle-ish language had not split from 
the nodal stem in Jutland, indicating that the designated person had achieved 
Valhalla. In modern parlance, he's up there with the Gods, feasting and 
wassailing, mainly on Ram's bisi bele baath (sic, very very sic), meaning the 
nectar of Rama.

Pleasure to be of help. Don't hesitate to call any time the old cultural 
knowledge needs a little handling. Most of the list will be helpful, except for 
morose, cranky old buzzards and mailing list fascists who are obsessed with top 
posting, and who have names beginning with V and ending with i.


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Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Bonobashi



--- On Tue, 24/3/09, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 From: Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com
 Subject: Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member
 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
 Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 3:30 PM
 Bonobashi wrote:
   Most of the list will be helpful, except for
 morose, cranky old buzzards and mailing list fascists who
 are obsessed with top posting, and who have names beginning
 with V and ending with i.
    
 Ahem! ends with a 't', guess you're still smarting from the
 last time I
 sighed. :)
 
 -Venkat

Oh no no no no no. 

Dear heavens, what a dreadful misunderstanding in the making!

I solemnly aver that I was referring to the resident haunt of the list, a close 
relative of Peeves of legend, who glories in the name of Veritabil Deniabiliti. 
My research shows that this is an Indo-Iranian forest deity represented in 
later English folk-lore and hunting legend as Hereward the Wake. VD prowls 
around the forest glades on the shores of the Caspian Sea, snapping up and 
feasting on laggards from the herds of wild swine found there in times of yore. 
Later, unfortunately, during the prosperous years of the Celtic tribes, these 
proud animals were shipped off by greedy Armenian carpet merchants who hadn't 
discovered carpets to the forests of Armorica. There they were the prey of 
blood-thirsty Gallic warriors banned from battle by their ritual uncleanliness 
at the time of the cutting of the holy mistletoe. VD was cut off from his 
natural prey, lost his corporeal form and became a list haunt, a peculiarly 
foul-smelling bogle who pounces on groups
 of merry-making e-mailers and can be evicted only by the utterance of powerful 
mantras of eldritch force.

Whatever could you have been thinking of? A great diplomatic calamity has been 
averted.


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Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:




 I solemnly aver that I was referring to the resident haunt of the list, a
 close relative of Peeves of legend, who glories in the name of Veritabil
 Deniabiliti.




Loved this, Wood-Dweller. Is your middle name Uderzo  by any Serendiptix
chance?

Cheers, Deepa.


Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
On 24/03/2009, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
  Regards,
  Kiran
 
 I think I was the target, not you. :)



Oops! Still getting used to my new phone and must have sent it by mistake.

My top-posting days are a distant memory..I got enough mails on that :)

Kiran


Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Bonobashi



--- On Tue, 24/3/09, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 From: Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com
 Subject: Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member
 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
 Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 4:06 PM
 Bonobashi wrote:
  Dear heavens, what a dreadful misunderstanding in the
 making!
 
  I solemnly aver that I was referring to the resident
 haunt of the list, a close relative of Peeves of legend, who
 glories in the name of Veritabil Deniabiliti. My research
 shows that this is an Indo-Iranian forest deity represented
 in later English folk-lore and hunting legend as Hereward
 the Wake. VD prowls around the forest glades on the shores
 of the Caspian Sea, snapping up and feasting on laggards
 from the herds of wild swine found there in times of yore.
 Later, unfortunately, during the prosperous years of the
 Celtic tribes, these proud animals were shipped off by
 greedy Armenian carpet merchants who hadn't discovered
 carpets to the forests of Armorica. There they were the prey
 of blood-thirsty Gallic warriors banned from battle by their
 ritual uncleanliness at the time of the cutting of the holy
 mistletoe. VD was cut off from his natural prey, lost his
 corporeal form and became a list haunt, a peculiarly
 foul-smelling bogle who pounces on groups
   of merry-making e-mailers and can be evicted
 only by the utterance of powerful mantras of eldritch
 force.
 
  Whatever could you have been thinking of? A great
 diplomatic calamity has been averted.
    
 You should seriously consider a career in mashups. Nice
 imagination and
 a good mix of PGW, GU, JRRT... who did I miss?

I had rather hoped that the phrase master wordsmith would have floated through 
your mind. It didn't? I Sigh, in a pig's eye to quote an old Romany rhyme.

The answer is Samit Basu.



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Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Bonobashi wrote, [on 3/24/2009 4:48 PM]:

 I had rather hoped that the phrase master wordsmith would have floated 
 through your mind. It didn't? I Sigh, in a pig's eye to quote an old Romany 
 rhyme.
 
 The answer is Samit Basu.

I tried the first book, _The Simoqin Prophecies_ (recommended by mmk)
and bounced hard off it. Trying too hard to be clever, I thought.

/me leans back to watch the fun, having provided the straight line of
the week.

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



[silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Vinayak Hegde
http://conferences.ted.com/TEDIndia/register.php

More Infomation at
http://www.ted.com/index.php/pages/view/id/72

-- Vinayak



Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Bonobashi



--- On Tue, 24/3/09, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Thaths tha...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member
 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
 Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 6:53 PM
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:36 AM,
 Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com
 wrote:
  Bonobashi wrote:
  Dear heavens, what a dreadful misunderstanding in
 the making!
 
  I solemnly aver that I was referring to the
 resident haunt of the list, a close relative of Peeves of
 legend, who glories in the name of Veritabil Deniabiliti. My
 research shows that this is an Indo-Iranian forest deity
 represented in later English folk-lore and hunting legend as
 Hereward the Wake. VD prowls around the forest glades on the
 shores of the Caspian Sea, snapping up and feasting on
 laggards from the herds of wild swine found there in times
 of yore. Later, unfortunately, during the prosperous years
 of the Celtic tribes, these proud animals were shipped off
 by greedy Armenian carpet merchants who hadn't discovered
 carpets to the forests of Armorica. There they were the prey
 of blood-thirsty Gallic warriors banned from battle by their
 ritual uncleanliness at the time of the cutting of the holy
 mistletoe. VD was cut off from his natural prey, lost his
 corporeal form and became a list haunt, a peculiarly
 foul-smelling bogle who pounces on groups
   of merry-making e-mailers and can be evicted
 only by the utterance of powerful mantras of eldritch
 force.
 
  Whatever could you have been thinking of? A great
 diplomatic calamity has been averted.
 
  You should seriously consider a career in mashups.
 Nice imagination and
  a good mix of PGW, GU, JRRT... who did I miss?
 
 And all that VD stuff!? Straight out of a public health
 film shown to
 navy longshoremen during the war.
 
 Thaths

An unfortunate - a MOST unfortunate juxtaposition. None could regret the 
inadvertent nominal proximity of an unmentionable situation with an agreeable 
bon viveur more than I. If only those silly Indo-Scythe and Wessons had broader 
vocabularies!!

Strange are the ways of Fate...



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Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Bonobashi

trimmed under protest, by orders of His Heiliness

  The answer is Samit Basu.
 
 I tried the first book, _The Simoqin Prophecies_
 (recommended by mmk)
 and bounced hard off it. Trying too hard to be clever, I
 thought.
 
 /me leans back to watch the fun, having provided the
 straight line of
 the week.


Just for that, nobody will pay attention to you; you will be left abandoned in 
your ankle-chains, while everybody troops off to see the Java sea-chimpanzee 
(now why does the situation seem familiar?)


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Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Bonobashi

trimmed under protest, by orders of His Heiliness

  The answer is Samit Basu.
 
 I tried the first book, _The Simoqin Prophecies_
 (recommended by mmk)
 and bounced hard off it. Trying too hard to be clever, I
 thought.
 
 /me leans back to watch the fun, having provided the
 straight line of
 the week.


Just for that, nobody will pay attention to you; you will be left abandoned in 
your ankle-chains, while everybody troops off to see the Java sea-chimpanzee 
(now why does the situation seem familiar?)


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[silk] DoppelGaenger

2009-03-24 Thread Bonobashi

Sorry for the double post.

That's what happened when being pressurised by tyrannical maintenance mechanics.


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Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Mayank Dhingra
Is it just me or $2,400 is a bit too much ?


Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
I think they assume companies will pay it, and, at least in the US, they are
inured to such figures. But yeah, I think it's too much. I think they only
want people who don't think that. Remember: conferences are businesses. They
make money.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Mayank Dhingra dhingra.may...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it just me or $2,400 is a bit too much ?



Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Amitha Singh
I thought so too... or is it just a plain typo by the designer... meant to
be $240?? :)


==
amitha singh
3 Head - ahead in thought
www.3headdesign.com 
== 

Hesitating to act because the whole vision might not be achieved, or
because others do not yet share it, is an attitude that only hinders
progress. -- MK Gandhi




-Original Message-
From: silklist-bounces+amitha=3headdesign@lists.hserus.net
[mailto:silklist-bounces+amitha=3headdesign@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf
Of Mayank Dhingra
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:18 PM
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

Is it just me or $2,400 is a bit too much ?




Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Amitha Singh
H... are they trying to fill their debut session in India with 10 people
in the audience then? LOL
Okay, okay... 12 people?

Anyway, given whatever equity they have, I don't understand the tendency of
brands coming into a market like India and making the same mistakes, say, a
Tommy did when they came in for example (not that I am too fond of the Tommy
brand, but TED, I like!:) )




-Original Message-
From: silklist-bounces+amitha=3headdesign@lists.hserus.net
[mailto:silklist-bounces+amitha=3headdesign@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf
Of Mahesh Murthy
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:45 PM
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

TED in the US is $6000. This I guess is the PPP price :-)

On Mar 24, 2009 7:40 PM, Amitha Singh ami...@3headdesign.com wrote:

I thought so too... or is it just a plain typo by the designer... meant to
be $240?? :)


==
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www.3headdesign.com
==

Hesitating to act because the whole vision might not be achieved, or
because others do not yet share it, is an attitude that only hinders
progress. -- MK Gandhi

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Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

I do hear satish jha is offering discounts over and above the ppp price to
india-gii members. He didnt get too warm a reception for that (but then a
lot of people didnt quite appreciate his enthusiastic olpc boosting there)

Mahesh Murthy [24/03/09 19:45 +0530]:

TED in the US is $6000. This I guess is the PPP price :-)

On Mar 24, 2009 7:40 PM, Amitha Singh ami...@3headdesign.com wrote:

I thought so too... or is it just a plain typo by the designer... meant to
be $240?? :)


==
amitha singh
3 Head - ahead in thought
www.3headdesign.com
==

Hesitating to act because the whole vision might not be achieved, or
because others do not yet share it, is an attitude that only hinders
progress. -- MK Gandhi

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Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 TED in the US is $6000. This I guess is the PPP price :-)

Where's the recession discount?

Cheeni



[silk] Cold Fusion: The Return

2009-03-24 Thread Udhay Shankar N
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16820

Neutron tracks revive hopes for cold fusion

* 15:33 23 March 2009 by Colin Barras
* For similar stories, visit the Energy and Fuels Topic Guide

Twenty years to the day that two electrochemists ignited controversy by
announcing signs of cold fusion at an infamous press conference in Utah
(watch a video of the 1989 event), a separate team has made a similar
claim in the same US state. But this time, the evidence is being taken
more seriously.

Back in 1989, Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons at the University of
Utah announced the tantalising prospect of abundant, almost-free energy,
but their claims of fusion reactions in a tabletop experiment were
dismissed by nuclear physicists, not least because such reactions
normally occur inside stars. The small quantity of extra energy they
found was widely considered a fluke or the result of experimental error.

Now Pamela Mosier-Boss and colleagues at Space and Naval Warfare Systems
Command (SPAWAR) in San Diego, California, are claiming to have made a
significant discovery – clear evidence of the products of cold fusion.

On 23 March, the team presented its work at the American Chemical
Society's spring conference in Salt Lake City, Utah, a few months after
the study was published in a peer-reviewed journal (Naturwissenschaft,
DOI: 10.1007/s00114-008-0449-x).
Plastic fantastic

Using a similar experimental setup to Fleischmann and Pons, the
researchers found the tracks left behind by high-energy neutrons,
which, they suggest, emerge from the fusion of a deuterium and tritium atom.

The team used a low-tech particle detector: a plastic called CR-39 that
is otherwise used for spectacle lenses. When CR-39 is bombarded with
subatomic charged particles, a small pit forms in the material with each
impact.

The researchers placed a sample of CR-39 in contact with a gold or
nickel cathode in an electrochemical cell filled with a mixture of
palladium chloride, lithium chloride and deuterium oxide (D2O),
so-called heavy water. When a current was passed through the cell,
palladium and deuterium became deposited on the cathode.
Triple tracks

After two to three weeks, the team found a small number of triple
tracks in the plastic – three 8-micrometre-wide pits radiating from a
point (see diagram, top right). The team says such a pattern occurs when
a high-energy neutron strikes a carbon atom inside the plastic and
shatters it into three charged alpha particles that rip through the
plastic leaving tracks. No such tracks were seen if the experiment was
repeated using normal rather than heavy water.

Johan Frenje at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, an expert at
interpreting CR-39 tracks produced in conventional high-temperature
fusion reactions, says the team's interpretation of what produced the
tracks is valid.

I must say that the data and their analysis seem to suggest that
energetic neutrons have been produced, he says, although he would like
to see the results confirmed quantitatively.

More controversial is the team's suggestion for the process that
produced the neutrons. High-energy neutrons are unlikely to be produced
by a normal chemical reaction, says Mosier-Boss. So, it's possible, she
says, they are created during the fusion of deuterium and tritium atoms
tightly packed in palladium framework at the cathode. The tritium also
being a product of the fusion of two deuterium atoms.

Some researchers in the cold fusion field agree. In my view [it's] a
cold fusion effect, says Peter Hagelstein, also at the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology.
Alternative theory

Others, though, are not convinced. Steven Krivit, editor of the New
Energy Times, has been following the cold fusion debate for many years
and also spoke at the ACS conference. Their hypothesis as to a fusion
mechanism I think is on thin ice … you get into physics fantasies rather
quickly and this is an unfortunate distraction from their excellent
empirical work, he told New Scientist.

Krivit thinks cold fusion remains science fiction. Like many in the
field, he prefers to categorise the work as evidence of low energy
nuclear reactions, and says it can be explained without relying on
nuclear fusion.

In 2006, Allan Widom at Northeastern University in Boston and Lewis
Larsen of Lattice Energy, LLC, suggested that the key to the process was
oscillating surface plasmons – waves of energy rippling through
electrons on the surface of the electrode.

They said that the rough surface of the palladium on the electrode
focuses the energy into small pits, where it can be transferred to a
single electron. The high-energy electron can then shoot into the
nucleus of a nearby deuterium atom and combine with a proton to release
a neutron and a neutrino (European Physical Journal C, DOI:
10.1140/epjc/s2006-02479-8).

Electrons and protons don't have trouble attracting, Widom told New
Scientist, and he says the explanation conforms to the Standard Model of

Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Amitha Singh

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com
wrote:
 TED in the US is $6000. This I guess is the PPP price :-)

Where's the recession discount?

Cheeni
[Amitha Singh] btw, does the concept of PPP still exist? Considering
recession?





Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Bonobashi



--- On Tue, 24/3/09, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member
 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
 Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 7:50 PM
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM,
 Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in
 wrote:
 
 
  trimmed under protest, by orders of His
 Heiliness
 
The answer is Samit Basu.
  
  Trying too hard to be clever, I
   thought.
 
  Just for that, nobody will pay attention to you
 
 
 I only hope that's true -- I forgot Udai gave the caveat
 that this is
 archived and available online. Therefore I deny all
 responsibility for the
 former posts by someone with sureptitious access to my
 account that may have
 offended hypocritical American feminists, Hindu
 conservatives who have
 members who use violence to further their cause, Danish
 women, born-again
 Baby Boomers, and people with good taste.
 
 Because apparently the vogue on freedom of discussion is,
 if you are
 offended, you try to punish the offender by censure and
 direct action to
 deprive one of  economic means. Even if you're not a
 celebrity endorsor
 who's violated some conservative social value.
 
 Everyone's great, especially those most easily offended,
 and plain toast
 with milk is the tastiest meal one can have... 
 (please don't hurt me,
 people who research others online for some large paying
 entity...)
 
 Timoriously and repentantly,
 Ravi


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Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Thaths
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Amitha Singh ami...@3headdesign.com wrote:
 [Amitha Singh] btw, does the concept of PPP still exist? Considering
 recession?

PPP is essential to these recessionary times. AIG, Merrill Lynch, Bank
of America, Citibank, Northern Rock, Royal Bank of Scotland, - all
beacons of Public Private Partnership's success.

Thaths
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Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Madhu Menon

Thaths wrote:

PPP is essential to these recessionary times. AIG, Merrill Lynch, Bank
of America, Citibank, Northern Rock, Royal Bank of Scotland, - all
beacons of Public Private Partnership's success.


What? You're not talking about Point-to-Point Protocol?


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Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan

 PPP is essential to these recessionary times. AIG, Merrill Lynch, Bank
 of America, Citibank, Northern Rock, Royal Bank of Scotland, - all
 beacons of Public Private Partnership's success.


 What? You're not talking about Point-to-Point 
 Protocol?http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=39295417270


Wow! Now there's an acronym gone rogue!

I was thinking purchasing power parity. However, I've realized that if
you're living in Bangalore, PPP really doesn't apply except for rent
(groceries don't apply for bachelor me).

I've had a comparable or higher quality meal in Seattle (excluding wine and
tip) for about the same price as a 3 course meal at say Sunny's.

Kiran


Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Biju Chacko
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Madhu Menon c...@shiokfood.com wrote:
 Thaths wrote:

 PPP is essential to these recessionary times. AIG, Merrill Lynch, Bank
 of America, Citibank, Northern Rock, Royal Bank of Scotland, - all
 beacons of Public Private Partnership's success.

 What? You're not talking about Point-to-Point Protocol?

Oh. I thought he meant the pee-pee protocol -- which I am currently
trying to teach my son.

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Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
 I've had a comparable or higher quality meal in Seattle (excluding wine and
 tip) for about the same price as a 3 course meal at say Sunny's.
   
You should try the lunch at FB. Nice variety... Sunny's is overpriced IMO.



Re: [silk] DoppelGaenger

2009-03-24 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Bonobashi wrote:
 Sorry for the double post.

 That's what happened when being pressurised by tyrannical maintenance 
 mechanics.

   
Beep Beep!



Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Priyanka Sachar
like Mahesh said, it is actually much more and has been priced much lower in
India.BTW there are 100 free entries as well, out of which 80 will be
Indians.

the application process for getting a fellowship which enables u to go
free starts from April 24th

2009/3/24 Mayank Dhingra dhingra.may...@gmail.com

 Is it just me or $2,400 is a bit too much ?



Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan

 You should try the lunch at FB. Nice variety... Sunny's is overpriced IMO.


The ham with orange sauce and the extensive wine list keeps calling me back,
but I will give FB a go. From the looks of their website, they look more
expensive than Sunny's.

Why don't we have a silk meetup there since there have been some newcomers
to the list (myself included)?

Need the latest food guide for Bangalore.

Kiran


Re: [silk] TED India Registrations now open

2009-03-24 Thread Ravi Bellur
I'm game!




 Why don't we have a silk meetup there since there have been some newcomers
 to the list (myself included)?

 Need the latest food guide for Bangalore.

 Kiran



Re: [silk] the business of charity!?!

2009-03-24 Thread ss
On Tuesday 24 Mar 2009 11:12:07 am Bonobashi wrote:
 The article itself is tendentious; Christian contributions bad and meant
 for perverted priests and houses of worship where the innocent are
 converted, Muslim contributions go to buy bullets and bandannas, Hindu
 contributions are not Hindu contributions, they are morally committed
 individuals doing their humble bit for the upliftment of Mother India. This
 has never been stated in so many words, but the examples speak for
 themselves. The individual author responsible also needs to be known and
 identified in his political context for the article to make full sense.

This is the point.

NGOs in general are being seen as agents of the dying Church in the West 
seeking to harvest souls in India. Incredulity and contempt are the usual 
reactions to this - but remember that incredulity and contempt did nothing to 
either Osammy or Dubya - who both carried on with what they felt they had to 
do.

There is a wide ad spreading feeling that NGOs are a front for both evangeilsm 
and jihad. Only one NGO needs to be shown to have even a remote conenction 
with such activities to tar the whole bunch. 

This is a very real thing - as real as the Ram Sene and Varun Gandhi. What 
will start happening is physical attacks against NGO.s If they use jeeps - 
guess what will burn first? 

Exactly what can be done about this - other than sarcasm and contempt?

shiv





Re: [silk] the business of charity!?!

2009-03-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

ss [25/03/09 06:07 +0530]:

Exactly what can be done about this - other than sarcasm and contempt?


getting the fellow thrown out of his comfortable tenure at iim-b might
help, for a start. maybe a formal complaint to the dean of iim-b for
whatever good it will do?

voting out the bjp / other sangh parivar parties (whose ideologues seem to
be the ones mainly behind these tirades) in the election would certainly
help.



Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread ss
On Tuesday 24 Mar 2009 3:42:49 pm Venkat Mangudi wrote:
 Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
  Regards,
  Kiran

 I think I was the target, not you. :)

Have you considered that V could all be targets and just not I

Sigh would not rule out such a possibility.

shiv



Re: [silk] the business of charity!?!

2009-03-24 Thread ss
On Wednesday 25 Mar 2009 7:08:38 am Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 getting the fellow thrown out of his comfortable tenure at iim-b might
 help, for a start. maybe a formal complaint to the dean of iim-b for
 whatever good it will do?

This is pointless. There are a thousand others like him sending out 
information that you don't get to read. You read this guy only because it is 
your tendency to read a particular segment of the English media.

He is expressing an opinion and your reaction, with respect, is reminiscent of 
the desire to personally punish people with contrarian opinions as shown by 
both the Taliban and the Ram Sene.


 voting out the bjp / other sangh parivar parties (whose ideologues seem to
 be the ones mainly behind these tirades) in the election would certainly
 help.

This is the only option. Get political support for your view.

Exactly what is being done about that?

shiv





Re: [silk] the business of charity!?!

2009-03-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Ah no. Not really. I simply believe in removing the root causes.

That dimwitted and loudmouthed academic is - as you point out - simply an
example case.  And my proposal to boot him out was prompted more by a
desire to see IIMs have actual quality in place rather than simply
punishing him.

On the other hand, having the bjp voted out of power in all the states its
currently dangerously active in (gujarat and karnataka now) would certainly
go far to remove the threat of such ideologies being backed by state power

ss [25/03/09 08:48 +0530]:

On Wednesday 25 Mar 2009 7:08:38 am Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

getting the fellow thrown out of his comfortable tenure at iim-b might
help, for a start. maybe a formal complaint to the dean of iim-b for
whatever good it will do?


This is pointless. There are a thousand others like him sending out 
information that you don't get to read. You read this guy only because it is 
your tendency to read a particular segment of the English media.


He is expressing an opinion and your reaction, with respect, is reminiscent of 
the desire to personally punish people with contrarian opinions as shown by 
both the Taliban and the Ram Sene.




voting out the bjp / other sangh parivar parties (whose ideologues seem to
be the ones mainly behind these tirades) in the election would certainly
help.


This is the only option. Get political support for your view.

Exactly what is being done about that?

shiv







Re: [silk] the business of charity!?!

2009-03-24 Thread ss
On Wednesday 25 Mar 2009 8:52:18 am Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 Ah no. Not really. I simply believe in removing the root causes.

 That dimwitted and loudmouthed academic is - as you point out - simply an
 example case.  And my proposal to boot him out was prompted more by a
 desire to see IIMs have actual quality in place rather than simply
 punishing him.

That dimwitted and loudmouthed academic is an acquaintance of mine and I have 
asked him if he would be interested in defending himself on this list so 
that intelligent convesration can occur.

Perhaps.

shiv



[silk] Off topic rhetorical taunt

2009-03-24 Thread ss
On Wednesday 25 Mar 2009 8:52:18 am Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
  my proposal to boot him out was prompted more by a
 desire to see IIMs have actual quality in place rather than simply
 punishing him.

Suresh - I found this to be an interesting statement, which I believe can be 
applied in another way.

The Ram Sena, in beating up girls, were prompted more by a desire to have 
quality Indian culture in place rather than simply punishing girls.

tit for tat.

shiv




Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Bonobashi



--- On Wed, 25/3/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member
 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
 Date: Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 7:08 AM
 
 -Inline Attachment Follows-
 
 On Tuesday 24 Mar 2009 3:42:49 pm
 Venkat Mangudi wrote:
  Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
   Regards,
   Kiran
 
  I think I was the target, not you. :)
 
 Have you considered that V could all be targets and just
 not I
 
 Sigh would not rule out such a possibility.
 
 shiv

I was reading my mail during breakfast, paging up and came across this unawares.

The costs: Half a cup of coffee, a mouthful of bread with pineapple jam and a 
MAC keyboard. This is being written on the desktop; the MAC is stark in death 
in the corner.

You will be getting a bill.



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[silk] Cats and Coffee warnings Re: Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Jeez, its been several years since I last posted on usenet but CC warnings
were a staple of such threads.

'Before you read this, keep your coffee aside and move your cat off your
lap to the floor, or you are going to laugh so hard, you'll spill the
coffee on your keyboard, and scare the cat so it scratches you'

Failure to tag posts that way were met with precisely your 'you owe me a
keyboard' reaction.

It is gratifying to see old traditions observed so religiously. Some of
shiv's friends would probably wipe away a tear of happiness for that :)

suresh

Bonobashi [25/03/09 09:25 +0530]:

I was reading my mail during breakfast, paging up and came across this
unawares.

The costs: Half a cup of coffee, a mouthful of bread with pineapple jam and a 
MAC keyboard. This is being written on the desktop; the MAC is stark in death 
in the corner.

You will be getting a bill.




[silk] Daring trains..

2009-03-24 Thread Gautam John
http://englishrussia.com/?p=2367

Ugh. I'd hate to think what the result would be in India...

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Re: [silk] Daring trains..

2009-03-24 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Gautam John wrote:
 http://englishrussia.com/?p=2367
   
Well, I am convinced that the menhir delivery man would say These
russians are crazy.



Re: [silk] Daring trains..

2009-03-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Venkat Mangudi [25/03/09 11:08 +0530]:

Gautam John wrote:

http://englishrussia.com/?p=2367
  

Well, I am convinced that the menhir delivery man would say These
russians are crazy.


Gautam asked what'd happen if this were to take place in India.

I guess the guy doing it would just have to hope nobody was using the train
toilets at the time .. indian train toilets basically having a hole at the
bottom that drops it all onto the tracks.

having a lot of crap land on your back every time you try this trick isnt
going to make it powerfully attractive, eh.



Re: [silk] Introduction - New Member

2009-03-24 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Bonobashi wrote:
 I was reading my mail during breakfast, paging up and came across this 
 unawares.
   
Paging up? Surely shiv does not top-post!
 The costs: Half a cup of coffee, a mouthful of bread with pineapple jam and a 
 MAC keyboard. This is being written on the desktop; the MAC is stark in death 
 in the corner.
   
Keyboards have MAC addresses now? ;-)



Re: [silk] Daring trains..

2009-03-24 Thread Gautam John
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 Gautam asked what'd happen if this were to take place in India.

That apart, any train buffs on the list? Do Indian locos and
compartments have sufficient clearance to attempt this?



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