RE: American Cancer Society
On 26 May 98 at 20:08, Dean Woodward wrote: > ... My own son is an MD, and I have been privvy to the extent to > which he goes to protect the lives entrusted to his care > So, please, let's not paint with so wide a brush that we tar those > good people who are devoting their lives to helping others live > longer, more comfortable, lives. And prevent any hope of productive discourse. Indeed, Dean makes my point again. > The present positive is that we have access to what is arguably > the most positive force yet made available to man - that is > colloidal silver. Now, be careful here, Dean. It's not PROVEN yet! > We can never bring this development to the majority of the people > without active, knowing, convinced participation of the main-stream > medical world. There are some things that may change this, but you're probably right. Influencing the mainstream certainly has to remain a part of our long term thinking, though not all. > I believe that ultimately we must form a non-profit, > publicly-supported, corporation which will take CS through the > arduous process of testing and justification to our government, in > the form of the FDA. This will be a *real* stretch for some! So let's be *REALLY CAREFUL TO STAY POLITE HERE FOLKS*. After all, just like this internet stuff, CS could take off so fast that the majority of people have it figured out before the gov't can get their hands around it's neck. Then they might not have any choice but to approve it. Or the same government could stonewall and derail any effort at legitimizing CS forever. Or worse, use the power we've given them to make it illegal or restrict it's use terribly. And how to prevent such a corporation from becoming a nightmare of corruption itself, funnelling the profits of CS to a priviledged few? There're plenty of folks here who will think it's a bad idea to ask the gov't for anything. So I don't have the answer. I'm just glad we don't have to decide this one today. > If we can do that it will be the first time in history, and will > be an historic event of the first order. Power to the people will > then be a reality. It would be historic, alright. And probably an indication of bigger changes to the balance of power than many of us would dare to hope for. Be well, Mike Mike D. wrote: > But as hard as it may be to deal with, please remember that some of > our own members are in medicine and science, and that there are good > people in the mainstream system *whom we need to reach*! > > So let's try not to offend our true friends... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: A little pep-talk...
Three cheers for the moderator! Thanks Mike---very good advice Sharon M. G. Devour wrote: > Keep right on suggesting things, Cisco and everybody, but just don't > anybody be so *definite* about what you say that somebody's gonna > get riled up about it. After all, *somebody's* going to object to > just about *anything* said here! > > I don't usually get flamed when I write because of liberal use of > qualifiers: shoulds, could's, might's, ought to's, maybe's, and > possibly's. It probably drives some people up the wall. (See, there I > did it again, I think ) Sounds wishy-washy, but it's a fact of > life coping with humanity in this environment. > > And if you're riled up by something, feel free to talk to me first! > I'll give you an ear and we'll see if anything needs doing. > > We do well enough here, folks. I'm eager to proceed. The next few > months should be really interesting. I know I'm going to be able to > devote more energy to this area in the near future. For example, I've > finally got the web-site disclaimer ready. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: American Cancer Society
Dean, My concern is not with the sincerity of the MD's, I know many and they truly do care. Some dont and feel only the AMA has the answers an no little people like us will ever find anything to help. My concern is with a 95% 10 year death rate from something being funded in massive amounts of tax and donation dollars. They have been pointed at Rife and CS, but againwe hear nothing. CS has been accepted in England. Cisco Dean Woodward wrote: > > I'm sure that there are some profit-motivated people in research who are > more interested in their income than they are in saving lives. I am also > sure that they are very much in the minority, and that more people in > research are as interested as you and I in seeing lives saved. My own son is > an MD, and I have been privvy to the extent to which he goes to protect the > lives entrusted to his care. I am 1000% sure that he would never suppress > information that would be of value to his patients in order to increase his > income. > > So, please, let's not paint with so wide a brush that we tar those good > people who are devoting their lives to helping others live longer, more > comfortable, lives. > > We don't need to do that. Let's concentrate on the positive, rather than the > negative. > > The present positive is that we have access to what is arguably the most > positive force yet made available to man - that is colloidal silver. We can > never bring this development to the majority of the people without active, > knowing, convinced participation of the main-stream medical world. If you > doubt this please read the book "A Remarkable Medicine Has Been Overlooked" > by Jack Dreyfus. Or, even better, read his book "The Lion of Wall Street" by > the same author which details his efforts to bring to the medical community > the truth - that Dilantin has a vast range of benefits apart from the > anticonvulsant role to which the medical establishment has relegated it. I > can personally attest to the truth of his mission in that thirty years ago > Jack Dreyfus' efforts saved my life. Thirty years later those efforts > continue to contribute to the quality of my life. > > We need convinced people who will help us establish not the truth of our > position on CS, but the TRUTH ABOUT CS! I believe that ultimately we must > form a non-profit, publicly-supported, corporation which will take CS > through the arduous process of testing and justification to our government, > in the form of the FDA. If we can do that it will be the first time in > history, and will be an historic event of the first order. Power to the > people will then be a reality. > > With love, > > Dean Woodward > > -Original Message- > From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 8:08 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: American Cancer Society > > Hi all, > > This thread is being cross-posted into the silver-list from the > rife-list, so I realize it's not entirely intentional. And I agree we > have a *lot* to be suspicious about... > > But as hard as it may be to deal with, please remember that some of > our own members are in medicine and science, and that there are good > people in the mainstream system *whom we need to reach*! > > So let's try not to offend our true friends... > > Various folks wrote: > > > Those turkeys know what we know ... they know how to cure cancer > > but won't release the info because they are milking it for every > > dollar that they can get. > > > They know what it is not--the cure that is. They are beginning to > > "have to" start announcing microbial etiology because the evidence > > is overwhelming. > > > if it is approved by the fda it very well may be hazardous to > > living things--like homo sapiens! > > > CUT/POISON/BURN and get paid better than most people on the > > planet > > > You give these vultures too much credit. THEY do not know how to > > cure cancer > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To jo
RE: American Cancer Society
> From: "Dean Woodward" > To: > Subject: RE: American Cancer Society > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 20:08:33 -0500 > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com Dear Mr. Woodward, I do not mean to be argumentative with you, but let's look at the facts. I have a cousin who is an MD, and I know he would not risk the lives of his patients either. But let's look at the truth here. We are talking about the FDA, the AMA and the ACS. These organizations have shown time and time again they do not care for people. They only want to make a buck. Unfortunately, the MDs are regulated by these organizations and because they are licensed, must go according to the regulations set up by these organizations. If it not FDA approved, and the AMA doesn't recommend it, then the MD CAN'T tell people about it. No matter how well it works. Also, if you think that anyone can get colloidal silver FDA approved in this present time, you are sadly fooling yourself. Do you really think that the FDA is there just to approve things for MD to use to help people get well? Then why don't we have FDA approval on all the wonderful herbal remedies. Many of which have been proven to work by many medical researchers. Even the FDA has said that many of them work. Why can't your son prescribe his patients to take herbs instead of drugs? (Let him try and see how long he keeps his license!) Why would we want to spend millions of dollars to try to get FDA approval on colloidal silver when now we can make it for pennies and can use all we want to and give away and sell all we want to. To get the FDA, the AMA and the ACS to accept our alternative remedies is not the answer. The answer is to reach the people and change their attitudes away from thinking the FDA, AMA and ACS are GOD, and teaching them that alternatives work better than drugs in most cases, and they have almost no side effects. Name me one drug that has NO side effects. Most of them have death as a side effect!!! If you peel back all the layers of the medical machine, you will find the drug companies. They are the one running the show. And their only motive is MONEY! They only reason they would want to prolong your life is so they could get more of your money! I don't like giving an opinion that goes against someone else, but we have all been brainwashed by the powers that be (myself included, just 3 years ago I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly). But once you learn the truth, you can never be fooled again!!! Take care! I hope you can learn the real truth about the FDA, AMA and the ACS, and know that no matter how good hearted your son is, he is controlled by them and has very little choice but to do what they tell him to do. God Bless you and yours! Jim Einert, N.D. > I'm sure that there are some profit-motivated people in research who are > more interested in their income than they are in saving lives. I am also > sure that they are very much in the minority, and that more people in > research are as interested as you and I in seeing lives saved. My own son is > an MD, and I have been privvy to the extent to which he goes to protect the > lives entrusted to his care. I am 1000% sure that he would never suppress > information that would be of value to his patients in order to increase his > income. > > So, please, let's not paint with so wide a brush that we tar those good > people who are devoting their lives to helping others live longer, more > comfortable, lives. > > We don't need to do that. Let's concentrate on the positive, rather than the > negative. > > The present positive is that we have access to what is arguably the most > positive force yet made available to man - that is colloidal silver. We can > never bring this development to the majority of the people without active, > knowing, convinced participation of the main-stream medical world. If you > doubt this please read the book "A Remarkable Medicine Has Been Overlooked" > by Jack Dreyfus. Or, even better, read his book "The Lion of Wall Street" by > the same author which details his efforts to bring to the medical community > the truth - that Dilantin has a vast range of benefits apart from the > anticonvulsant role to which the medical establishment has relegated it. I > can personally attest to the truth of his mission in that thirty years ago > Jack Dreyfus' efforts saved my life. Thirty years later those efforts > continue to contribute to the quality of my life. > > We need convinced people who will help us establish not the truth of our > position on CS, but the TRUTH ABOUT CS! I believe that ultimately we must > form a non-profit, publicly-supported, corporation which will take CS > through the arduous process of testing and justification to our government, > in the form of the FDA. If we can do that it will be the first time in > history, and will be an historic event of the fir
RE: More technical questions.
List: I heartily endorse that comment. I bought three different "steam-distilled" waters at our local supermarket. Here are the resistivities of these waters as measured by my (amateur) ohmmeter. Tap Water: 376,000 Ohms Reverse Osmosis Water: 690,000 Ohms "Janette Lee" Distilled Water: 903,000 Ohms "Ozarka" Distilled Water: 1,300,000 Ohms "Oasis" Distilled Water: 2,000,000 Ohms Now, I admit that my measurement techniques and equipment leave something to be desired. However, I tried to keep the test conditions the same for all tested samples. I am investigating acquiring a standard probe for measuring resistivity, and when I do I will report back to the group. In the meantime, use the very best distilled water you can find. Dean -Original Message- From: jein...@troi.csw.net [mailto:jein...@troi.csw.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 2:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: More technical questions. > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:10:52 -0500 > From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > The Hanna Instruments TDS1 is inexpensive and consistant; it adjusts for > temperature, too. > > By the way, a friend brought by a gallon of Sure- Fine "Distilled > water", bottled in Amarillo, TX, which was doing 'strange things' - > whiteish cloudyness in CS generating process... Tested 17ppm of > something = badly contaminated distilled water... probably tells us we > may not be able to trust the labels of all store bought water... if you > find a brand that tests 0 to 1 ppm with the TDS1, stick with it. I used a Hanna TDS1 to check some Sure-Fine "Distilled Water', bottled in Little Rock, AR, and it tested at 23ppm. I switched brands bought at the same store, and got distilled water at 1ppm. So it ain't all the same folks!!! Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: American Cancer Society
I'm sure that there are some profit-motivated people in research who are more interested in their income than they are in saving lives. I am also sure that they are very much in the minority, and that more people in research are as interested as you and I in seeing lives saved. My own son is an MD, and I have been privvy to the extent to which he goes to protect the lives entrusted to his care. I am 1000% sure that he would never suppress information that would be of value to his patients in order to increase his income. So, please, let's not paint with so wide a brush that we tar those good people who are devoting their lives to helping others live longer, more comfortable, lives. We don't need to do that. Let's concentrate on the positive, rather than the negative. The present positive is that we have access to what is arguably the most positive force yet made available to man - that is colloidal silver. We can never bring this development to the majority of the people without active, knowing, convinced participation of the main-stream medical world. If you doubt this please read the book "A Remarkable Medicine Has Been Overlooked" by Jack Dreyfus. Or, even better, read his book "The Lion of Wall Street" by the same author which details his efforts to bring to the medical community the truth - that Dilantin has a vast range of benefits apart from the anticonvulsant role to which the medical establishment has relegated it. I can personally attest to the truth of his mission in that thirty years ago Jack Dreyfus' efforts saved my life. Thirty years later those efforts continue to contribute to the quality of my life. We need convinced people who will help us establish not the truth of our position on CS, but the TRUTH ABOUT CS! I believe that ultimately we must form a non-profit, publicly-supported, corporation which will take CS through the arduous process of testing and justification to our government, in the form of the FDA. If we can do that it will be the first time in history, and will be an historic event of the first order. Power to the people will then be a reality. With love, Dean Woodward -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 8:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: American Cancer Society Hi all, This thread is being cross-posted into the silver-list from the rife-list, so I realize it's not entirely intentional. And I agree we have a *lot* to be suspicious about... But as hard as it may be to deal with, please remember that some of our own members are in medicine and science, and that there are good people in the mainstream system *whom we need to reach*! So let's try not to offend our true friends... Various folks wrote: > Those turkeys know what we know ... they know how to cure cancer > but won't release the info because they are milking it for every > dollar that they can get. > They know what it is not--the cure that is. They are beginning to > "have to" start announcing microbial etiology because the evidence > is overwhelming. > if it is approved by the fda it very well may be hazardous to > living things--like homo sapiens! > CUT/POISON/BURN and get paid better than most people on the > planet > You give these vultures too much credit. THEY do not know how to > cure cancer [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: More technical questions.
> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:10:52 -0500 > From: "Bruce K. Stenulson" > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > The Hanna Instruments TDS1 is inexpensive and consistant; it adjusts for > temperature, too. > > By the way, a friend brought by a gallon of Sure- Fine "Distilled > water", bottled in Amarillo, TX, which was doing 'strange things' - > whiteish cloudyness in CS generating process... Tested 17ppm of > something = badly contaminated distilled water... probably tells us we > may not be able to trust the labels of all store bought water... if you > find a brand that tests 0 to 1 ppm with the TDS1, stick with it. I used a Hanna TDS1 to check some Sure-Fine "Distilled Water', bottled in Little Rock, AR, and it tested at 23ppm. I switched brands bought at the same store, and got distilled water at 1ppm. So it ain't all the same folks!!! Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: American Cancer Society
Hi all, This thread is being cross-posted into the silver-list from the rife-list, so I realize it's not entirely intentional. And I agree we have a *lot* to be suspicious about... But as hard as it may be to deal with, please remember that some of our own members are in medicine and science, and that there are good people in the mainstream system *whom we need to reach*! So let's try not to offend our true friends... Various folks wrote: > Those turkeys know what we know ... they know how to cure cancer > but won't release the info because they are milking it for every > dollar that they can get. > They know what it is not--the cure that is. They are beginning to > "have to" start announcing microbial etiology because the evidence > is overwhelming. > if it is approved by the fda it very well may be hazardous to > living things--like homo sapiens! > CUT/POISON/BURN and get paid better than most people on the > planet > You give these vultures too much credit. THEY do not know how to > cure cancer [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Moderation in all things...
Kris, list, You raise the right kind of issues, Kris. I hope my comments to you will speak to those raised by others as well... On 26 May 98 at 12:02, Kris Hermes wrote: > Although Daryll responded to Cisco's original message with > unnecessary character critique, he got some good points across. > ...so, in the end, Daryll was JUSTIFIED in giving his 2 cents (just > not in the way he did it). It seems a shame that he will not be > able to give that alternate point of view anymore, as he is no > longer on the list. I've spoken with Darryll off list, and I'll probably be staying in touch with him as he seems willing to remain on friendly terms. It *is* a shame he's not with us still. He's a more interesting person than he ever let us know publicly. But I have yet to persuade him that his actions need to change in any significant way. > As harsh as Daryll's original rebuttal was, I thought that Cisco's > rebuttal in turn was far worse. I think to be just, if the list is > going to penalize anybody in that altercation, it should be BOTH of > them. Cisco's counterattacks were personal and laced with aggression. I've spoken with him, and he quite realizes he also hurt the list. He sees that his reaction reduces his long term value to the community. The distinction I make between the two is that Darryll *initiated* the aggression. Would anyone suggest that Cisco did not seem to become the target of a campaign by Darryll to discredit anything he had to say? Cisco has listened, and I think learned from the experience. We'll be here to judge the results. Darryll, *may* have learned something, but as yet gives no indication of relenting in his criticism of anything Cisco says and his desire to "correct" other people. That's the state of things at the moment. > I have noticed that Cisco is well liked on this list (for good > reasons), and he has been consoled many times when people question > his methods. This is nice and it shows good camaraderie, but if it > means that every time disagreement occurs (even if it involves > nastiness), we side with the "preferred" list member, then we > begin to limit our thinking and exploration. I would like you to know it is very important to me to be fair to all members of the list to the best of my ability. My defense of Cisco is the same as I would give *any* of you if you were being unfairly criticized and attacked. If Cisco turns out to be so oversensitive he becomes a net liability to the list, he'll be dealt with as well. And he knows it! > There is NO ONE on this list that should claim to be the authority > on something that is still being investigated...it is not healthy! This is the whole key to getting along in such an idiologically diverse community. > And if we begin to ostracize those with opposing views, we become > no better than the existing "authority" of the orthodox medical > establishment. And that is indeed the last thing we want. I believe there is enough diversity of opinion among us, *expressed in a civil fashion*, that no error or dogmatism will stand for long. > Thanks for listening. Thanks for airing your feelings, Kris. I don't like dealing with these issues any more than you do, and I'm looking for ideas to help things go better the next time. I don't have many options. I can kick someone off the list. I can let them post and keep cleaning up the mess. I can turn on full moderation and approve every post before it goes out to the list. This last change would slow things to a crawl. I see that finally writing down the list rules and making sure they go out to new subscribers and get reposted occasionally will help avert these kinds of incidents. I'd like input to make sure these rules represent the consensus of the group. I'm deeply grateful for the support and assistance you've all given in the past. I hope I've addressed your concerns. I'm listening for your thoughts and ideas. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Where's the Silver? was Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Amen and amen! Love Dean -Original Message- From: Nancy B. [mailto:silverwo...@bigfoot.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 9:55 AM To: Silver-List Subject:Where's the Silver? was Re: Using Solar to Make CS Dear Silver List, I know for sure now that my first post about solar CS didn't make it. I must have not used my member address that time. The response to my repost has been overwhelming! I appreciate all objective information that has been posted. I will be turning edited versions of that over to my husband to review. I don't have a good handle on electronics myself, but he does. I got some good references off the list from a list member too; thanks, Bill. It would have been helpful if the subject on the list had been changed once the useful content had been exhausted. (Suggestions: "Bickering Brothers" or "Flaming Darts" or "Low PPM Silver Dung"). These Re: misnamed posts were a waste of my time. Self control on the internet regardless of your situation is far easier than when you are talking in person. There is no excuse for dumping trash on the list with so many opportunities to stop before pushing the send button. Second opinions and criticism regarding scientific views should be welcomed when presented objectively and constructively. But why pour salt on wounds or bring up negative emotion and unrelated or irrelevant side issues? Any emotional content should be that of emotional support, not destruction. A hostile atmosphere makes it awkward for someone like me to do anything other than ask a question, and then I have my doubts whether it's worth asking. (What if my question is deemed "stupid" by someone, or I misspell something???) Based on private emails I get, I wonder how much other good info is getting sent privately to avoid public rebuke? We must remember that both new & old list members are here for facts, not flareups. The bickering brothers ought to take their squabbling off the list and just stick to the facts and hypotheses here. You are at risk for loosing posting privileges. Doesn't that mean anything to you? Even if offenders remain on the list, their posts with insight may go unread due to past reputation. They can obscure legit posts like the 2 most recent I almost skipped. I thought the dung debate was continuing when in fact these posts simply clarified the yet unanswered questions that started the tiff. While I'm at it, another general suggestion: can we cut the petty criticism of typos and mis-spellings? I've seen this here and elsewhere too many times. This isn't a spelling bee. It always comes across as a cheap shot at somebody, often intending to hurt, not help. Otherwise it would have been brought up privately, not where everyone else could view it. MANY very intelligent people never could type well or spell, and some people have lost their ability to type or spell due to illness. Then there are some very intelligent people who can't communicate at all, like how Helen Keller was for years. We all have "fallen brains" (as my husband puts it). Just that some limitations are easier to hide than others. How blessed we are to have the internet to communicate, regardless of our IQ or abilities. Thank God for this list in particular. If I had to count on hand written messages to send and receive all this information, I'd still be on antibiotics, probably ruining my liver and my kidneys and more, and typing and spelling poorly due to neurological Lyme damage that CS has reversed for the most part. The good news is that poor spellers and typists on our list can improve their "appearance" for the sake of those who struggle to overlook it. A spell-checker (built into some mail programs like MS Outlook) can quickly make posts more readable. I set up my program to check every outbound email for spelling now. I'm surprised what it picks up. (It tries to clean up the letter I'm responding to as well; that's when I stop & send!) Personally, I have a lot more fun deciphering poorly spelled and typed posts that are rich in CS content than I have looking at a pile of dung very low in silver content -- too low to measure. Proverb for the day adapted for the silver list: How pleasant it is when brethren* of the silver list dwell together in harmony! *to be "PC" add, "and sistren"! Sincerely, Nancy B. http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/silver-works -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ.
CS Changing Color
Hi List, I made up a quart of CS using a Sota Blood zapper unit 5 days ago... nice golden/yellow. I put it in a clean brown glass container and put it a dark kitchen cabinet. I noticed yesterday that the color had changed to a pale green/yellow... Can anyone offer Some suggestions as to what is going on? Used store-bought "steam distilled" water. The Bottle was as clean as can be (as far as I can tell)... Bill -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Solar panels & CS
Hello, I believe the moderator had sufficient "off list" discussions with Daryll to take the action that was done. Am I right Mike? I have to watch things myself from being too "preachy" I know the facts and they work for me most times. When something works I want the whole world to benefit. It's the lead a horse make him drink thing. Mike is right about syntax using suggestions, personal testamonies. Sometimes I jump in without being asked so, we're human. However most times when both trains of thought are right we compromise and talk about this and that and finally arrive at a conclusion. When your fighting as hard as you can in the place were you've been put, where you live and breathe every day and someone steps on that inner place where your personal pride about yourself lives,(quiet, non verbal appreciation of yourself) then it hurts real bad. Most people get mad first, even when the spot inside is bleeding to death, but we get over it and go on and realize that we're still only human inspite of ourselves. A person once told me if I couldn't be humble, then I would be humiliated sooner or later. So I get humiliated now and then. I think it levels the playing field. The communication thing just keeps happening. Some are gifted, others have to try real hard. This is a good group!! Susan > >I have noticed that Cisco is well liked on this list (for good reasons), >and he has been consoled many times when people question his methods. >This is nice and it shows good camaraderie, but if it means that every >time disagreement occurs (even if it involves nastiness), we side with >the "preferred" list member, then we begin to limit our thinking and >exploration. There is NO ONE on this list that should claim to be the >authority on something that is still being investigated...it is not >healthy! >And if we begin to ostracize those with opposing views, we become no >better than the existing "authority" of the orthodox medical >establishment. Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Solar panels & CS
Before Daryll was removed from the list, he mentioned that you could just as easily take the smaller solar panel and charge a "rechargeable" battery, of the type most are using on this list. This means that one can store energy for use when the sun is not shining, even with a smaller battery set up than Cisco's. It is merely a scaled down version of what Cisco had suggested. As a side note: Although Daryll responded to Cisco's original message with unnecessary character critique, he got some good points across. In fact, it was later revealed that Cisco was giving out information for high volume CS production...so, in the end, Daryll was JUSTIFIED in giving his 2 cents (just not in the way he did it). It seems a shame that he will not be able to give that alternate point of view anymore, as he is no longer on the list. As harsh as Daryll's original rebuttal was, I thought that Cisco's rebuttal in turn was far worse. I think to be just, if the list is going to penalize anybody in that altercation, it should be BOTH of them. I have noticed that Cisco is well liked on this list (for good reasons), and he has been consoled many times when people question his methods. This is nice and it shows good camaraderie, but if it means that every time disagreement occurs (even if it involves nastiness), we side with the "preferred" list member, then we begin to limit our thinking and exploration. There is NO ONE on this list that should claim to be the authority on something that is still being investigated...it is not healthy! And if we begin to ostracize those with opposing views, we become no better than the existing "authority" of the orthodox medical establishment. Thanks for listening. Kris > -- > From: Jade[SMTP:intel...@itis.com] > Sent: Monday, May 25, 1998 7:16 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: Solar panels & CS > > At 12:09 AM 5/26/98 +1000, you wrote: > > > Regarding the debate on using various sized solar panels to make > CS, I got > the impression that the larger ones recommended by Cisco were > necessary to > charge a battery. This battery could be used to make CS at any time, > day or > night, sunny or cloudy. However, to DIRECTLY charge a CS generator, > the > smaller solar panels might suffice. This could only be done during > sunny > daylight hours, however. Is this interpretation correct?? > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: More technical questions.
Frank (& List) I'll offer my 2 cents worth: Frank Matzka wrote: > > Just curious, but is there any difference in using rectified AC as > opposed to DC current in the making of CS? > My generator is based on Thomas Miller's design using a 24 Vac > transformer rectified to provide DC. Now, this as I understand it, would > supply the DC at what ever pulses the supply is (in Australia 50 Hz). So > what difference if any does the 50 per sec pulses of electricity do to > the production rather than a continuous consistent supply? A pulsed DC will work fine, and in fact will be beneficial in minimizing the "growth of crystals" spoken of by many who are working with a constant current DC source. A Half wave rectified supply would be desirable and the simplest way to achieve this (single diode.) > What's the best way to measure the conductivity of my water before and > after? I have used a digital mutimeter which didn't register anything > meaningful. And also an old old old multimeter I built myself years ago. > This gave me the following readings which I'm not confident of trusting. > I noticed different readings depending on how much of the probes I > immersed. > > Tap water 50k ohm > Filtered tap water 50 k ohm > My first CS batch 200k ohm(unknown ppm and made using > the distilled water below) > bottled distilled waterunreadable > > Is there a simple circuit I can construct to measure this? Your measurement probes are the critical factor; make a set simply by taking the cap of a 35mm film container, and inserting 2 small stainless steel machine screws about 3/8" apart, with the heads flush with the surface you will set against the CS water surface. Hook meter leads to these two screws. If you get more elaborate and use solder lug connections, with good connectors on the oposite ends to plug into your meter, you can begin to get consistant, reproducable results. As you've already discovered, contact wetted surface and spacing are both critical to achieving meaningful measurements with a meter. Temperature also affects conductivity. The Hanna Instruments TDS1 is inexpensive and consistant; it adjusts for temperature, too. By the way, a friend brought by a gallon of Sure- Fine "Distilled water", bottled in Amarillo, TX, which was doing 'strange things' - whiteish cloudyness in CS generating process... Tested 17ppm of something = badly contaminated distilled water... probably tells us we may not be able to trust the labels of all store bought water... if you find a brand that tests 0 to 1 ppm with the TDS1, stick with it. > > Does anyone know of the best or simplest way to make distilled water on > the stove top? I remember some mention of a dual stage process to get > rid of the low volatile impurites first. Any ideas ? An activated carbon Filter should extract the volatiles; prefiltering with a Rubbermaid or Britta water filter pitcher is probably a good start; others may have more info on this. Briefly: Fabrication of your own distillation equipment was discussed about 5 weeks ago; Stainless steel is recommended, (Stainless Steel Pressure cooker with a fabricated / added SS "splash guard" inside over the steam outlet) with Nylon II tubing being able to handle high temperature for condenser fabrication, inside a CPVC water jacket; High temperature silicone rubber tubing will provide flexible couplings where needed; clean all components thoroughly before drinking the finished product! > > Hopefully other people also benefit by my questions and any answers > given, hopefully I can eventually contribute once I get going fully. > > Regards...Frank > > -- There's a lot more info on CS on 'The Alternate Health Approaches Forum' at: http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth Bruce K. Stenulson Applied Technology -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: American Cancer Society
YO! What has changed with these people in 100 years.CUT/POISON/BURN and get paid better than most people on the planet.HHH I need a new occupation! The fact is that of 1000 people who go to them 50% die in the first 5 years.and of the balance only 5 percent survive another 5 years.he lets give them more money to kill peopleHAR! HUMOR, I dont buy into itI have seen it happen and we have a new CANCER CLINIC open on island110,000 people and we have a 4 million dollar clinic on Guam.I am impressednice parking lot they are expecting lots of people230 spaces. Cisco Susan M. Yensen wrote: > > >-Original Message- > >From: Reid Smith > >To: Z > >Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 5:07 AM > >Subject: Re: American Cancer Society > > >> That's the same way I feal and one of the reasons that I started the > >>Rife Foundation. Those turkeys know what we know and I'd bet anything > >>I own agianst a donut that they know how to cure cancer but won't release > >>the info because they are milking it for every dollar that they can get. > **REid, > > They know what it is not--the cure that is. They are beginning to "have > to" start announcing microbial etiology because the evidence is > overwhelming. This makes their treatments null and void. > > Watch and see how the pharmaceutical co's get involved even more with this. > incidently if it is approved by the fda it very well may be hazardous to > living things--like homo sapiens! > > Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer > Susan > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Where's the Silver? was Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Dear Silver List, I know for sure now that my first post about solar CS didn't make it. I must have not used my member address that time. The response to my repost has been overwhelming! I appreciate all objective information that has been posted. I will be turning edited versions of that over to my husband to review. I don't have a good handle on electronics myself, but he does. I got some good references off the list from a list member too; thanks, Bill. It would have been helpful if the subject on the list had been changed once the useful content had been exhausted. (Suggestions: "Bickering Brothers" or "Flaming Darts" or "Low PPM Silver Dung"). These Re: misnamed posts were a waste of my time. Self control on the internet regardless of your situation is far easier than when you are talking in person. There is no excuse for dumping trash on the list with so many opportunities to stop before pushing the send button. Second opinions and criticism regarding scientific views should be welcomed when presented objectively and constructively. But why pour salt on wounds or bring up negative emotion and unrelated or irrelevant side issues? Any emotional content should be that of emotional support, not destruction. A hostile atmosphere makes it awkward for someone like me to do anything other than ask a question, and then I have my doubts whether it's worth asking. (What if my question is deemed "stupid" by someone, or I misspell something???) Based on private emails I get, I wonder how much other good info is getting sent privately to avoid public rebuke? We must remember that both new & old list members are here for facts, not flareups. The bickering brothers ought to take their squabbling off the list and just stick to the facts and hypotheses here. You are at risk for loosing posting privileges. Doesn't that mean anything to you? Even if offenders remain on the list, their posts with insight may go unread due to past reputation. They can obscure legit posts like the 2 most recent I almost skipped. I thought the dung debate was continuing when in fact these posts simply clarified the yet unanswered questions that started the tiff. While I'm at it, another general suggestion: can we cut the petty criticism of typos and mis-spellings? I've seen this here and elsewhere too many times. This isn't a spelling bee. It always comes across as a cheap shot at somebody, often intending to hurt, not help. Otherwise it would have been brought up privately, not where everyone else could view it. MANY very intelligent people never could type well or spell, and some people have lost their ability to type or spell due to illness. Then there are some very intelligent people who can't communicate at all, like how Helen Keller was for years. We all have "fallen brains" (as my husband puts it). Just that some limitations are easier to hide than others. How blessed we are to have the internet to communicate, regardless of our IQ or abilities. Thank God for this list in particular. If I had to count on hand written messages to send and receive all this information, I'd still be on antibiotics, probably ruining my liver and my kidneys and more, and typing and spelling poorly due to neurological Lyme damage that CS has reversed for the most part. The good news is that poor spellers and typists on our list can improve their "appearance" for the sake of those who struggle to overlook it. A spell-checker (built into some mail programs like MS Outlook) can quickly make posts more readable. I set up my program to check every outbound email for spelling now. I'm surprised what it picks up. (It tries to clean up the letter I'm responding to as well; that's when I stop & send!) Personally, I have a lot more fun deciphering poorly spelled and typed posts that are rich in CS content than I have looking at a pile of dung very low in silver content -- too low to measure. Proverb for the day adapted for the silver list: How pleasant it is when brethren* of the silver list dwell together in harmony! *to be "PC" add, "and sistren"! Sincerely, Nancy B. http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/silver-works -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Calcium
Haloo, silver list and Jim! I want to report a success! Jim got me thinking about the soreness I was experiencing in my lower back, hips, and thighs. I began to wonder if it might be calcium deficiency on top of the pulled muscles I was recovering from. So I had Rosie buy me a carton of one of those orange juices with added calcium citrate. I only needed to drink a couple of glasses of it, and by the second day I was almost without pain! I've got s much to learn about this body of mine! Thank you for the good advice, Jim. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Easy experiment
I'm sure this has been done a dozen times already on the list but just for fun I took 2 double shot glasses and filled them both with milk that was about to expire. To one glass I added one eyedropper full of CS. Homemade and of unknown concentration but a nice golden yellow. I put both glasses side by side on top of the nice warm refrigerator. In about 36 hours the untreated milk had curdled in a most disgusting fashion while the CS treated milk looked just as it did when first poured. As a final test, and to get an unbiased opinion, I put both glasses on the floor where the family cat promptly lapped up the CS milk and ran like hell from the curdled stuff. I know most folks on this list don't need any convincing but if you're looking for a cheap, easy way to demo the reality of the CS effect to skeptical friends then this is pretty effective. Best to all, Doug -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: American Cancer Society
>-Original Message- >From: Reid Smith >To: Z >Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 5:07 AM >Subject: Re: American Cancer Society >> That's the same way I feal and one of the reasons that I started the >>Rife Foundation. Those turkeys know what we know and I'd bet anything >>I own agianst a donut that they know how to cure cancer but won't release >>the info because they are milking it for every dollar that they can get. **REid, They know what it is not--the cure that is. They are beginning to "have to" start announcing microbial etiology because the evidence is overwhelming. This makes their treatments null and void. Watch and see how the pharmaceutical co's get involved even more with this. incidently if it is approved by the fda it very well may be hazardous to living things--like homo sapiens! Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
A little pep-talk...
On 26 May 98 at 22:47, Cisco wrote: > I guess I keep forgetting that you all dont make quantities like we > are forced to do.so I guess my sight is rather narrow...[munch] > ...with all I read everyone wants to make lots of it...so small > quantities never made any sense to me.sorry for my > confusion. Remember, folks, we all need to be smart enough to judge things for ourselves. If it doesn't apply to you, or doesn't sound quite right, then let's find out why and learn from it! Keep right on suggesting things, Cisco and everybody, but just don't anybody be so *definite* about what you say that somebody's gonna get riled up about it. After all, *somebody's* going to object to just about *anything* said here! I don't usually get flamed when I write because of liberal use of qualifiers: shoulds, could's, might's, ought to's, maybe's, and possibly's. It probably drives some people up the wall. (See, there I did it again, I think ) Sounds wishy-washy, but it's a fact of life coping with humanity in this environment. And if you're riled up by something, feel free to talk to me first! I'll give you an ear and we'll see if anything needs doing. We do well enough here, folks. I'm eager to proceed. The next few months should be really interesting. I know I'm going to be able to devote more energy to this area in the near future. For example, I've finally got the web-site disclaimer ready. In the meantime we've had a couple new "first batch" initiations. Be proud of yourselves, folks! Things are coming along, a little slowly at times, but coming along. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: test
TJ, Exactly what kind of test was this, was a placebo utilized and were the results certifedif you dont post the entire test will will be forced to ignore such tests in the futureHUMOR!>> Cisco tj garland wrote: > > test > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Distilled H20
Mike and all, I guess I keep forgetting that you all dont make quantities like we are forced to do.so I guess my sight is rather narrow. If you look ahead and realize the need of quantity some of my stuff will applybut for personal needs only the smaller systems are what you need. I just thought and dont ask me why, that systems like we utilize are a standardwith all I read everyone wants to make lots of it...from mouth wash to douche to burn treatment, and even moreso small quantities never made any sense to me.sorry for my confusion. Cisco M. G. Devour wrote: > > Hallelujah! I'm glad Zeke's finally got that web page working... > > I'm an enthusiastic do-it-yourselfer and I have always liked the idea > of solar energy projects. These folks sell kits and are even going to > publish a do-it-yourself guide. I like'em! > > I don't know anything more about them than is on their web site, but > I enjoyed my visit. It makes me want to go out and build me a solar > distiller! Cool! > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > On 26 May 98 at 4:42, Dean wrote: > > > I just tried the link http://www.zekes.com/~aguadelsol > > And it worked fine. > > > > Dean > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Distilled H20
Hallelujah! I'm glad Zeke's finally got that web page working... I'm an enthusiastic do-it-yourselfer and I have always liked the idea of solar energy projects. These folks sell kits and are even going to publish a do-it-yourself guide. I like'em! I don't know anything more about them than is on their web site, but I enjoyed my visit. It makes me want to go out and build me a solar distiller! Cool! Be well, Mike D. On 26 May 98 at 4:42, Dean wrote: > I just tried the link http://www.zekes.com/~aguadelsol > And it worked fine. > > Dean [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: silver-digest Digest V98 #143
On 25 May 98 at 22:51, jerry w. wrote: > Every time I download one of these files and try to read it there is > a problem about not all the files being there or something. this > happens with other downloads also not just this one. I don't know > what it is that is wrong but it is OK. I just need to UN-Subscribe > to the Digest version of the silver-list. Thanks- I tried jerry w The only thing I could suggest is if you have a limit on the message size your e-mail program will retrieve for you. I seem to recall an option like that in some of the e-mail and newsreader software I've used. There might be an option to either not retrieve, or to *truncate* messages over xx kilobytes in size. The digest is set to go out every 24 hours, or when it reaches 40 kilobytes in size, whichever comes first. Good luck! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: American Cancer Society
You give these vultures too much credit. THEY do not know how to cure cancer Though their eyes are wide open they are blind. They are milking C for research dollars. Just another type of welfare recipient. Your Federal taxes support these bums. Dan -Original Message- From: Reid Smith To: Z Date: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 5:07 AM Subject: Re: American Cancer Society >>Don't give them a cent. >>Spend it on alternatives. >>Dan > > That's the same way I feal and one of the reasons that I started the >Rife Foundation. Those turkeys know what we know and I'd bet anything >I own agianst a donut that they know how to cure cancer but won't release >the info because they are milking it for every dollar that they can get. > >Take Care > >Reid > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Solar panels & CS
Dear list, Another thing that must be concidered also is that our good friend Cisco is talking gallons while the little twenty dollar panel may be sufficient for 8 ounces over maybe an hour and a half or so if the sky is clear. (my guess on the time.) At 11:16 AM 5/25/98, you wrote: >At 12:09 AM 5/26/98 +1000, you wrote: >> > Regarding the debate on using various sized solar panels to make CS, I > got >the impression that the larger ones recommended by Cisco were necessary to >charge a battery. This battery could be used to make CS at any time, day or >night, sunny or cloudy. However, to DIRECTLY charge a CS generator, the >smaller solar panels might suffice. This could only be done during sunny >daylight hours, however. Is this interpretation correct?? > I Pray That I Can Become The Man That My Dog Thinks I Am --> Harvey Flatbush <-- ha...@iomet.com http://www.iomet.com <-- Ione, Washington --> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Solar panels & CS
At 12:09 AM 5/26/98 +1000, you wrote: > Regarding the debate on using various sized solar panels to make CS, I got the impression that the larger ones recommended by Cisco were necessary to charge a battery. This battery could be used to make CS at any time, day or night, sunny or cloudy. However, to DIRECTLY charge a CS generator, the smaller solar panels might suffice. This could only be done during sunny daylight hours, however. Is this interpretation correct?? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Distilled H20
I just tried the link http://www.zekes.com/~aguadelsol And it worked fine. Dean -Original Message- From: gabriel joseph anast [mailto:sagr...@iname.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 1:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: Distilled H20 http://www.zekes.com/~aguadelsol Cisco wrote: > Listers, > > http://www.zekes.com/~aquadelsol/ > > This is where we started.it is all thereand they are good > people. Sorry folks but my old antique puter and my limited server > capabilities just dont deal well with sending lots of Megs of > information.so ya gotta go do the surfin > did you say that this link will work in the future? I couldn't get it to work... * Gabe -- AIM: sagress, ICQ: 11424803 SNAIL: Box 307, Lobelville, TN 37097 Consider all original material public domain. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Distilled H20
Cisco wrote: > Listers, > > http://www.zekes.com/~aquadelsol/ > > This is where we started.it is all thereand they are good > people. Sorry folks but my old antique puter and my limited server > capabilities just dont deal well with sending lots of Megs of > information.so ya gotta go do the surfin > did you say that this link will work in the future? I couldn't get it to work... --Gabe -- AIM: sagress, ICQ: 11424803 SNAIL: Box 307, Lobelville, TN 37097 Consider all original material public domain. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: off-topic Wondering?
Dave & Caroline wrote: > alt.folklore.herb Is the one I subscribe to. try herbi...@majordomo.com This guy: sbro...@earthlink.net is the moderator. Mail him to see how to get on the list. When I was on the list it was /very/ prolific... maybe 30 messages a day. Lots of good info. --Gabe -- AIM: sagress, ICQ: 11424803 SNAIL: Box 307, Lobelville, TN 37097 Consider all original material public domain. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
