Re: lyme/protocol
I am unfortunate enoughG to live in Texas and we have worse ticks this year. What are the list's thoughts as to a maintenance dose for us/dogs to keep the virus from taking hold, to kill it when it hits in other words. I have picked several ticks off the dogs so far this year and we also have ehrlichiosis and baberensis(sp?) to deal with in the dogs so I believe the CS would also nip these bad guys. What do you successfully treated lyme patients now use for maintenance? Deb -- Debbie McDonald Dear Debbie, I think that if I were out in ticky areas a lot, I`d just keep taking the active illness dose all the time. Can`t hurt, and it may keep the nasty little `chetes and their nasty friends from getting a foodhold. I took 3 swallows a day of about 30 PPM CS a day. Now I take a swallow every other day or so as a preventive, but I`m not in a tick area. I do tend to get UTIs a lot, and CS keeps those away. As to the dogs, just keep some in their drinking water all the time. I wish I knew an exact amount to tell you... Good luck! Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
psorisas
This is the first time I have sent mail on the Internet so I hope it is all right. I suffer from Psoriasis and have done for a long time, I have tried all sorts of treatment but no luck so far I am now trying colloidal silver . I was hoping that someone might be able to help me , how much do I take and should I spray some CS on it . A few years ago I had Arthritis and took colloidal silver and in a few months it had gone and so far it has not come back so I hope I can do the same thing with Psoriasis. John
Silver Meter
Will this device be of use to CS makers: http://www.hannainst.com/products/ion/93737.htm HI 93737 Silver Meter High Sensitivity: The Hanna HI 93737 measures silver from 0 to 0.6 mg/L in steps of 1/1000th of mg/L. This high resolution ensures better accuracy when keeping a tab on silver discharges. Easy-to-use: HI 93737 measures only silver and weighs about half a pound so that quick tests can be easily performed even by non-technical staff on-site. Supplied with Starter Kit This instrument comes complete with 2 cuvets, caps, 9V battery and instruction manual. Thanks, Sean -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS and yogurt
jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: Hi List, Well here is what you have all be waiting for! I did the experiment today using the yogurt and the colloidal silver. First I poured the water off the top of some yogurt. Then I made a slide using a drop of this. Checked this out (using a darkfield microscope and a power of 432x) and it was pretty active. Then I added enough CS to the rest to make it about a 40% CS solution (just a guess, a little less than 50/50). I let this set for about 10 minutes or so. Then I made a slide with a drop of this solution. It too was fairly active. Next I let both slides set for about 8 hours, and checked them again. This time the slide WITHOUT the CS was less active, and the slide WITH CS was more active. It did not kill the good bacteria, but in fact may have made it more active. My idea of how this happened is the colloidal silver may have killed out the bad bacteria and allowed the good to grow or become more active. The slide without the CS still had the bad bacteria growning that was hampering the good. Don't know, just an idea. I will try this experiment again to see if I get the same results. Also, I want to let some milk spoil and look at the bad bacteria in it, and then treat it with CS to see what happens. I also want to test different CS batches made in different ways as well. This CS was made in heated water with a bit of sea salt. I would guess the ppm is in the range of 25 to 35 ppm. This is just a guess, but it did look pretty good under the darkfield. I'll post more later as I get a chance to try the different experiments. Take care. Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Hi Jim If you are interested I will be happy to send you a complimentary bottle of COLL/AG-40 MILD SILVER PROTEIN,40PPM,.001 MICRONS,NITRATE AND NITRATE FREE.Just e-mail me your address and I will send it for your experiments. All I ask is you post the results to the silver list. Have an unbelievable day ARNIE FARBER http//www.silverbulletgold.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: lyme/protocol
Candace Hawthorne wrote: Hello List! I too, never got a rash or saw a tick. However I did receive a multitude of bug bites while in Texas, which is where my nightmare with Lyme began. I am unfortunate enoughG to live in Texas and we have worse ticks this year. What are the list's thoughts as to a maintenance dose for us/dogs to keep the virus from taking hold, to kill it when it hits in other words. I have picked several ticks off the dogs so far this year and we also have ehrlichiosis and baberensis(sp?) to deal with in the dogs so I believe the CS would also nip these bad guys. What do you successfully treated lyme patients now use for maintenance? Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: HPV
Candace Hawthorne wrote: To Date HPV is incurable, like the herpes virus. Authors Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw state in their book Life Extension that the herpes virus is killed by BHT. Book is older, has this been proven/disproven?? Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS and yogurt
jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: Hi List,I made a slide with a drop of this solution. It too was fairly active. Next I let both slides set for about 8 hours, and checked them again. This time the slide WITHOUT the CS was less active, and the slide WITH CS was more active. It did not kill the good bacteria, but in fact may have made it more active. My idea of how this happened is the colloidal silver may have killed out the bad bacteria and allowed the good to grow or become more active. The slide without the CS still had the bad bacteria growning that was hampering the good. Don't know, just an idea. Allowed the good to grow, that is absolutly FANTASTIC! I wonder what a man made antibiotic(anti-life) would do. I sure appreciate your work Jim. As simple as it is, I think it is about the best I have seen. It was getting a little old relying on my nose. Wish I never sold my micrscope, now I'm itching to buy another one. bjs -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS Cystic Fibrosis
Dameon is giving us some great insights into his treatment and experience. He's put together of a *lot* of different things which are helping him survive the disease. Thank you, sir! For the rest of us, I think we should try to become as well informed as we can, so we are able, like Dameon, to assemble a complement of tecniques to sustain our health or solve our health problems. CS is a useful component for such a regimen and a versitile tool. We need to continue to build our understanding of CS. That's what this group's for. There seems to be an on-going debate about which silver is the best. I know this: Concentration and penetration are key: If the particles are smaller, they'll get into more places and be more affective. The WaterOz product has obviously been effective for Dameon. When he first made contact with us, I was skeptical of it because of the high concentration claimed. This attitude comes from the baseless claims *some* vendors make, and simply *not* having the facilities to test and compare and categorize all the different products that are competing for our attention. I want to be able to *know* the particle size and concentration of a product, and have some way to objectively measure the effectiveness of a preparation. Without that, although we might know from Dameon's experience that WaterOz works, we won't know what *other* preparations might work, and most importantly, we won't know *why*. I'd like to resist the temptation to classify any one product as *best*, since different features are better in different situations. For some, cost might be more critical than a certain degree of effectiveness, particularly when dealing with less demanding conditions. For others, cost is no object. Then we've got folks for whom do-it-yourself is essential, like Cisco's folks out in Guam. What all have in common is the need to know that what they buy or make is safe and effective enough to produce results. Ultimately, I'd like us to be able to classify the various CS preparations, equipment, and methods by valid measures and properties. Then we could examine any new technique or product and be able to say, with reasonable certainty, whether or not it will work for its intended use. Then people will have the *most* options, because they will discover that a lot of different products work, and be able to avoid the ones that won't, and be able to tell the difference. I hope all this makes it clear why I view this brand of silver water so important. It's important because it *works*. What I want to know is *why*. Then we could point to the kinds of equipment that you would need to make something as good, or know why that wouldn't be practical. In any case, we at least would know our options. ... Everytime I look at a bottle of drugs now I cringe and hope that WaterOz keeps on working so that I never have to go on them again! Amen to that! Thank you Dameon. I wish you well, brother. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: HPV
To Date HPV is incurable, like the herpes virus. If anything can kill the HPV it would be CS, at the least keep it very suppressed. I no longer get cold sores due to taking CS. And it killed my Lyme disease. HPV is the virus that causes Cervical Cancer, it is extremely common, 80% to 90% of the population is infected. Many have HPV for years, it is silent until you get a abnormal pap smear, or some sort of lesion. And at the later stages can be painful for women. Candace -Original Message- From: tosca...@ix.netcom.com tosca...@ix.netcom.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 8:59 PM Subject: HPV Does anyone know if CS or even colloidal gold would help with killing HPV, or human papillomavirus? Any facts, ideas, or anecdotes (positive or negative) are appreciated. Tahnk you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re:
Hello List!
I too, never got a rash or saw a tick. However I did receive a multitude of
bug bites while in Texas, which is where my nightmare with Lyme began. I
was on antibiotics for six months, I.V. and orals simultaneously. I did feel
a little better from the antibiotics but was far from well. Just before I
was to stop the antibiotic regimen, scared to death to stop, knowing that
the Lyme would just knock me right back down again. I was praying to find
an answer to my dilemma. And one day on the Lyme NG I saw mentioned CS, then
thanks to a member of this list Marsha Hallett who gave me the confidence to
use the CS to treat my Lyme. It worked magnificently, I was extremely ill
from the Herx for three months straight. However I took very high doses of
CS for five months to make certain that the Lyme was truly gone, and it was
and still is. I finished the CS in October and today I am healthy and
feeling great!
I was extremely ill for three years before I was finally properly diagnosed.
I was originally told I had MS due to some neurological symptoms that were
brought on by the Lyme. If they were not mis diagnosing me the docs would at
times would look at me strange when I would real off all of the symptoms I
was experiencing. Anyway, for those of you who suffer from Lyme there is
hope with CS. I am going to list the dosing guidelines that I used to treat
my Lyme with CS.
DOSAGE Must Coincide With Body Weight
The initial 1st (first) week dosage in all cases should only be 1/2
(one-half) teaspoon only once (1) a day in the morning as the Colloidal
Silver at 30 ppm (THIRTY) is so effective that if you start the therapeutic
dosage of more than 1/2 (one-half) teaspoon per 1 (one) day you may put
yourself into bed with a severe herxheimer or Candida reaction from all the
dead bacteria piling up waiting to be expelled from your bloodstream.
Thereafter your dosage of Colloidal Silver absolutely must correspond to
your body weight for the protocol to be successful as CS is allopathic-the
more you take the buffer it works and conversely the less you take for your
body weight the less it will be able to do for you. Again: The dosage can be
more but not less than that required for your body weight for it to work
and for to be successful.
The dosage baseline of {4} (four) teaspoons (20 ml.) morning immediately
upon arising l (one) hour before breakfast, and 4 (four) teaspoons (20 ml.)
evening 2 (two) hours after supper, is based on an average infection for a
120 (one hundred and twenty) pound individual.
The dosage also must be tailored to the severity of the infection. which
means you must increase the dosage (after you have adjusted the initial
dosage to your weight), if you have had a chronic, severe, or long term
infection.
It is crucial that:
Your starting-beginning baseline dosage (before you tailor dosage to your
symptomatology) must correspond to your body weight. This means the baseline
dosage must be increased a minimum of 1 (one) teaspoon (5 ml.) every time
you take a dosage, to accommodate every 30 (thirty) pound increment in body
weight.
For example: A 210 lb. individual must increase their baseline dosage to 7
(seven) teaspoons (3i ml.) in the morning and 7 (seven) teaspoons (35 ml.)
in the evening.
The following outline is the basic initial dosage reference:
120 lb. man, woman or child = 4 (four) tsps. morning and 4 (four) tsps.
evening.
150 lb. = 5 (five) tsps. morning and 5 (five) tsps. evening.
180 lb. = 6 (six) tsps. morning and 6 (six) tsps. evening.
210 lb. = 7 (seven) tsps. morning and 7 (seven) tsps. evening.
Just to confirm:
A 60 (seventy) lb. child would respectively require a dosage of 2 (two)
teaspoons [10] (ten) ml. in the morning and 2 (two) teaspoons [10] (ten)
ml.1 in the evening.
respective dosage you then stay at that dosage until you ameliorate all of
your symptomatology. If because of the severity or the chronic state of your
infection you plateau and have a stubborn symptom that you cannot knock out
at this dosage-then increase your dosage by I (one) teaspoon additional in
the morning and 1 (one) teaspoon additional in the evening for 2 (two)
weeks.
This should make a big difference to your recovery. If not yet, increase the
dosage again by another l (one) teaspoon in the morning and I (one)
teaspoon in the evening for the following two weeks and stay on the
respective additional dosage until you do ameliorate that symptom.
The key is that you increase and tailor the dosage to the point whereby you
aggressively knock out any remaining symptoms that are attributable and due
to the current active Borrelia Burgdorferi infection. You must treat until
all active symptoms are gone-so you are basically asymptomatic, as this is
your main guideline to know how much to, and how long to treat.
N.B. The spirochetes re-cycle every 30 (thirty) days if there are any
remaining in your body. This means that some sensitive individuals will
notice a flare up of their
Re: CS and yogurt
Thank you, Jim! Excellent work. It's exciting to see experimentation in progress. I look forward to your future postings! Dameon (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' I Hope To Become The Man That My Cat Thinks I Am ___ It may not be art, but for some of the most unique wallpaper tiles in the Universe, check out the ones I made at this joint Web site. You can now preview immediately what they'll look like on your screen by clicking OUTSIDE the left side of each preview tile. The later pages have the newer stuff and it's changing all the time. While there, read the read this section and say hi to Louis; it's really his site. http://louisr.home.mindspring.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS Cystic Fibrosis
Because Joyce Inouye jinou...@ccsf.cc.ca.us had some questions: There seems to be an on-going debate about which silver is the best. I know this: Concentration and penetration are key: If the particles are smaller, they'll get into more places and be more affective. WaterOz silver has particles so small that it will even penetrate spinal fluid (claims the company). They'll also expell from the body more completely after doing their work (claims pro-CS sources). I can't prove any of this, but I know that enough CS must penetrate my heavily damaged lung tissue containing great amounts of very thick phlegm or it's worthless. Obviously, WaterOz does that or my cultures would not be coming back clear. Plus, CF is not *really* a lung disease per say, the destruction is just more critical there; it's really a BODY disease in that it affects all kinds of other systems, too (like the pancreas, kidneys, bowels and sinuses). So the more the silver can penetrate, the better! And I have yet to hear of a home-brew kit that will produce completely clear liquid at the stated 100+PPM of WaterOz that is still clear -- they all have some tint: Golden or amber. I've seen CS as dark as maple syrup! If there's a tint, then light is refracting off LARGER-than-WaterOz particles. Everyone I know of having good results with their home-brewed CS isn't dealing with a disease as deadly as mine, so their bodies have room for error -- mine doesn't. And if they *do* have a disease as deadly as mine or don't think their CS is doing the job, they should switch to WaterOz before it's too late (my opinion). There are serious *reasons* why most CF victims die by 20 and many long before that. At 42, I am very ancient. If WaterOz is *working for me*, then that's important progress in the *treatment of* this disease (and if it ain't broke, don't fix it!). Besides the smaller and more uniform size, is there a difference when you drink the silver? See above and all past postings. Is it more effective? See above and all past postings. What's different about the silver that makes you partial to it? See above and all past postings. Have you tried Soto's silver maker? No. Since you mentioned only the concentration and appearance of the silver, I wondered whether you were favoring WateOz by intellectual reasoning instead of by its effectiveness. I favor it because the proof's in the puddin'. I don't have the room to play intellectual reasoning games: I almost died twice in the past 7 months. This disease plays hardball. At 20 I had the rare opportunity of actually watching a CF victim die right in front of me while in the hospital for my own IV drug treatment. My room was across the hall from this poor girl's. It was the middle of the night and I couldn't sleep. In all the comotion, nobody noticed me standing there. That changed me. To this day I wonder what forces were at work to bring that about since it is very unusual and restricted. I decided that night to fight and now I am one of the oldest CF victims in the world. Years ago when I was in much better health I did a lot of intellectualizing about avaliable solutions -- now I go with gut reaction: If it works, I stick with it til something makes the spinning top wobble. *Then* I get intellectual about what's causing the problem and immediately switch modes. Like recently: I began craving orange juice *bigtime*, so instead of juicing oranges, I broke open canned oj. Then I began to notice that every time I drank it I'd have terrific coughing spasms. When I checked the label I found that it contained oranges from Brasil and Mexico -- places where there's little or no restrictions on the use of very bad pesticides (like DDT!). NO MORE OJ. SPASMS STOPPED. Do you feel better? I never really feel better having CF, it's just more of a tolerable situation when using WaterOz and not the drugs. In my entire life I had ONE DAY where I actually felt completely free of the disease and very good, but I won't go into that because it's too complicated and had a lot to do with many circumstances. The goal here is to keep lung damage from progressing til a major breakthrough in transplant or regeneration methodologies occurs. The hope is that I can hold out long enough to actually get new versions of my own lungs (grown in a big jar in Sweden, probably) so there's no rejection complications from someone else's tissue. Even the idea of having another person's lungs repulses me -- even IF science solves the rejection problems. I'll go with that if I have to, but I'd actually prefer getting a new pair of my own lungs that still have the CF problem, than to have someone else's organs! I can deal with this disease now for the rest of my life, I just need to breathe better! With new lungs from my own tissue that don't have all the scar-tissue of my present versions, I can keep them going til I'm 90 and feel like a million bucks! I know so much about good nutrition and preventing lung damage now that it
Just received my Hanna TDS-1!
I just received my Hanna TDS-1 yesterday. It cost me $14.95 plus shipping. The first thing I did was to test the water from my kitchen faucet. We have our own well. It tested at 78-79 ppm. Then I tested the water from our Amway water filter. It registered 74-75 ppm. I next tested distilled water made by my Sears distiller. It tested at 1ppm. I also tested the store-bought distilled water. It also tested 1-2 ppm. So far, so good. I tested my home-brewed CS, and it tested at 18-20 ppm. We make it with 3 9v batteries hooked in series and attached to the silver wire. We do not have a light bulb connected to the series, though I want to make this improvement soon. The silver wire is held in place by a board in which I drilled a couple of small holes about half an inch apart. I got the silver wire (.999 pure) from a place suggested by Marsha (Liahona). I place the board over an 8 oz Kerr bottling jar relatively full of distilled water. I use the board mostly because someone suggested that, ideally, the wire shouldn't touch the bottle, and it seems easier to manage the contraption this way. We let the thing run until one of the leads is pretty gunky. We haven't been very careful about timing. We simply assume that when the annode is pretty covered with flakes and the water seems yellowish in color we have an adequate concentration of CS. I'm pretty happy with the 18-20 ppm result of the last batch. Just for fun, my wife tested a commercial variety of CS that we have on hand. It claims to be 10 ppm. You can imagine my surprise when it tested at 98 ppm. Now I'm confused. Either my TDS-1 isn't calibrated correctly (and therefore all of my measurements are suspect) or the commercial brand I have is under-rated. Maybe I should have both my home brew and the commercial stuff tested at a lab? What might this cost? By the way, one thing I've noticed is that when I drink colloidal silver, I can't taste it with my tongue, but the taste buds at the back of my throat sense a metallic type of flavor that sticks for a bit. Bob
CS and yogurt
Hi List, Well here is what you have all be waiting for! I did the experiment today using the yogurt and the colloidal silver. First I poured the water off the top of some yogurt. Then I made a slide using a drop of this. Checked this out (using a darkfield microscope and a power of 432x) and it was pretty active. Then I added enough CS to the rest to make it about a 40% CS solution (just a guess, a little less than 50/50). I let this set for about 10 minutes or so. Then I made a slide with a drop of this solution. It too was fairly active. Next I let both slides set for about 8 hours, and checked them again. This time the slide WITHOUT the CS was less active, and the slide WITH CS was more active. It did not kill the good bacteria, but in fact may have made it more active. My idea of how this happened is the colloidal silver may have killed out the bad bacteria and allowed the good to grow or become more active. The slide without the CS still had the bad bacteria growning that was hampering the good. Don't know, just an idea. I will try this experiment again to see if I get the same results. Also, I want to let some milk spoil and look at the bad bacteria in it, and then treat it with CS to see what happens. I also want to test different CS batches made in different ways as well. This CS was made in heated water with a bit of sea salt. I would guess the ppm is in the range of 25 to 35 ppm. This is just a guess, but it did look pretty good under the darkfield. I'll post more later as I get a chance to try the different experiments. Take care. Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
