MCT Fund Update
Fantastic response!! Past half way!! I'll be away for a few days so I can't promise when I'll have the next update available. It shouldn't be any later than Monday though. Have a nice weekend, Doug. For now the fund stands as follows: George N. Allengal...@cpcug.org- $20.00 W. D. Cavanaughchuck...@iamerica.net - $10.00 Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 ___ Total to Date $ 220.00 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Legal to prescribe already?
This is an interesting aricle at Joyce's web site. Almost sounds like it is legal to prescribe. bjs Clinical Use Report Of MSP Dr. Joseph J. Cardot Researchers have been warning the medical establishment for years that the indiscriminate use of antibiotics could spawn mutations in pathogens (bacterial, viral, and fungal), creating "Super Bugs" resistant to all known medications. The result, they warned, would create a "post antibiotic world" where common, as well as uncommon, infections would quickly escalate into fatal illnesses. The warning have been ignored; the result is that we are--right now--facing a major threat to human life from formally treatable infectious conditions. A friend of mine, Dr. Richard Callahan, York, NE, in a recent phone conversation remarked that, in his opinion, mutated pneumococcus nacteria and viral pneumonia will be killing thousands of Americans annually within five years. Bad news indeed. The good news is that Mild Silver Protein (MSP) may be an answer to the dilemma we are facing. I have operated a family practice for 37 years where I have treated all types of infections in patients varying in ages from infants to over ninety. Before prescribing any treatment I believe a doctor should determine if the patient might suffer harmful effects from the treatment. "First Do No Harm." The treatment should also offer the prospect of helping the patient recover. MSP meets both of the criteria. I started using a silver suspension in protocols for patients with infections in January of 1992. The first patient, a female, had "walking" viral pneumonia. She was placed on one tablespoon of the silver suspension t.i.d. She was asymptomatic the fourth day into treatment. I was astounded. I thought that it might have been a misdiagnosis. Since that first experience I have treated more than 50 cases of viral pneumonia with the same positive results. Time of treatment varies, due to patient condition and severity of infection, from four days to thirty days. The outcome, however, is consistently positive; the infection is cleared. Since that first experience I have included MSP in protocols for all types of infectious diseases with positive results. MSP has cleared reoccurring ear infections in children who were scheduled for tube surgery making the procedure unnecessary. Infectious fibromayalgia (Fibromyositis) and Sjogren's syndrome patients have benefitted from MSP therapy; MSP therapy helps many rheumatoid arthritis patients with synovial fluid infections that are causing inflammation to no longer need steroids. Systemic Candida Albicans is successfully treated with MSP. It is so effective we must start with small doses to control Herxheimer effect. Staph and other infections in the mouth (Gingivitis) have dramatically improved with MSP therapy. The Lyme disease spirochete (Borrelia burgdorferi) is eliminated using MSP therapy. I have records of Lyme patients who have been taking various antibiotics for three or more years who have become asymptomatic on MSP therapy after just three or four weeks of treatment. The average duration to rid the body of the spirochete is three to nine months. Systemic Candida Albicans frequently occurs in patients with Lyme; complicating the treatment and prolonging the duration of treatment. Lyme disease is far more prevalent than is generally known. Lyme has been reported in the U.S. in 43 states, and in all of Canada. I believe that reported cases of Lyme represent only about 20% of the actual number of Lyme cases. Lyme is routinely misdiagnosed as meningitis or as a "heat rash." A red rash is a typical symptom of Lyme. Ag-Cidal and Silvicidal* are proving to be IOO% effective in getting rid of the Lyme spirochete when they are included in the treatment protocol. The important thing about MSP therapy is that it is non-toxic. I have never observed any side effect from using MSP therapy, and I have used it in patients with all kinds of infections. In acute conditions as much as four tablespoons per day has been given, with no adverse reactions observed or reported. HIV positive patients have responded to MSP therapy if begun before the advanced Stages of full blown AIDS. Temple University studies indicate that MSP kills the HIV virus in vitro. I believe that the HIV can be completely eliminated by using higher concentrations of MSP than can be absorbed with oral dosing. In vivo studies should be done using 250 to 750 ppm MSP administered IV. Due to the fact that MSP is non-toxic in high concentrations, this could prove to be a God-sent treatment for the millions who are suffering and dying from AIDS related illnesses. The use of AZT and other chemotherapeutic drugs, in the vain attempt to treat AIDS is, in my view, simply death by prescription. These drugs destroy DNA and the immune system; a case of "the cure being as bad as the disease." Why not use a proven to be non-toxic
Re: Deer Tick
Reading this kinda' late, but watched a video of a presentation by a very well respected doctor in the lyme community. He said the spirochetes will make their way into the CNS and all tissues within 4 weeks, so waiting to test is not a good idea. Better to treat preventively and for a LONG time. My daughter was treated with 10 days amoxicillan when she was 3 for bulls-eye rash. Now she is 9 and sick with chronic lyme disease. Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: caster oil
Found this on the newsgroups Can anyone dispute it with facts or should we do more digging? Deb > > > > castor oil contains ricin, one of the most potent poisons known. A single > > molecule will kill a cell (by chewing up ribosomes if memory serves). The > > oil > > is used as a cathartic. Not sure whether this is a true "stimulant > > cathartic" > > a class of drugs that too many women only learn to avoid after they have to > > consult a doctor because their colon doesn't work anymore. > > > > Avoid castor oil, if someone tells you it is healthful, see if they are also > > taking DDT pills and ask for a reputable reference. > > > > Robert Read, DVM, PhD > > Looked up ricin. Toxic indeed!! LD50 .001 ug/gram! But why do women > seem to fall victim to this? They just happen to use it more? And is > there really damage to the colon, given the 3-day turnaround time for > the lining? -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Testing
Just a quick thought. Since the report on Joyce's site covers CS effectiveness on 4 common bacteria, perhaps we should look into testing CS for anti-viral effectiveness. There are also anti-fungal claims for CS that should be verified as well. Does anyone have a pointer to such test results already or do you think this would be an original and valuable contribution? Regards to all, Doug. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS Lab Tests
Okay, guys, here's the fly in the ointment. I had volunteered 10 bucks-- maybe it got routed wrong (and I really appreciate the record keeper in this matter; I'm no good at that sort of thing, and don't want to learn to be good.) Since it got misplaced in the shuffle, after I heard that the results were already in, I kept quiet because I really don't like to waste money-- too hard to come by some days-- and replication of honest test results seems a waste to me and I really don't want to contribute to that. 'Course I never made it to the list, so ole stingy gut me shoulda kept mum-- NOT!! I'm too committed to openness, especially with such a terrific group as this. What a wonderful thing that we're willing to put our money where our mouths are. Since this test has now been done twice, I suggest some other project. And Bob seems to be a natural leader. I nominate him Secretariat/National Treasure/Presidio. How 'bout if we send him (or whomever we elect) money-- whatever we're comfortable with-- and then come to a consensus about how to spend it. I would, however, suggest that we do as we've done on this: wait till we do a pretty thorough investigation to see if we can obtain whatever information we're after without cost. With money in hand, we'll be able to expedite this thing. Frankly, it's a risk. Bob may turn out to be a con man who runs off to Mexico with our $4.35; but I'm as willing to bet that he's responsible as I'm willing to admit that I'm not going to handle anyone else's money. I trade commodities for a living, and it makes me nervous handling my own money. Marsha, speaking of money, I have the money order to send you, and I'll mail it today. Thanks for the silver, gorgeous. Wil C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Testing CS?
Dear List; I don't mean to throw a wet blanket on the noble efforts to get CS tested here. BUT, I think it would be misguided to think that it may somehow make CS mainstream if that is our intention. If it is for your own personal knowledge and all of that, that is fine. Now that I have upset everyone, I had the misforture to pay the Quackwatch web site a close inspection. It is truely SCAREY. They got the laws on their side and are pushing for more and they aren't afraid to use them. Not only do they go after individuals, the writing is on the wall for many companies, some of which I do busness and have been satisfied with. I would not be surprised that these people may attempt to take some sort of action on some of the alternative newsgroups. I don't know if writing them would help or really make things worse. Right now, I think the latter. It appears that ONE of their motives is money for themselves. I sure hope everyone takes some time to VISIT their lovely site. I can tell you up front that WHATEVER you are doing is WRONG and they encourage YOU to take action against the companies that have hoodwinked you into buying their products. In California, the INDIDIVUAL consumer, has the SAME power as the Attorrny General. Weather I am being overly concerned or not, I certainly am IMPRESSED! Here is one example. I hope that everyone realizes that there is the other side of the coin on anything. This is not the main page, but it will take you there. bjs http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/donsbach.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS Lab Tests
Hi folks. I'm back. I was out of town for a few days. I haven't had time to read all of my 150+ messages yet, so I don't know where we stand on the issue of having our own tests run by a reputable lab. (the Silver List is the biggest culprit). However, I heard back from the company that makes the Grapefruit Seed Extract (G.S.E., but not to be confused with grape seed extract). They are faxing me a copy of their lab tests which compared G.S.E. to CS, Chlorine, etc. I haven't seen them yet, but I appreciate their openness in sharing the reports. I'll post again as soon as I've had a chance to review them. It will be interesting to see if we can learn anything about the characteristics of the CS used for comparison purposes (ppm, who made it, etc.). Have a nice day! Bob Wells
Re: make your own c.s.
What's a TDS meter, and where do I get one? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
MCT Fund Update
OK, it seems that we have at least some interest in getting our own testing done, so for now let's press on. Thanks to all who've pledged. Almost half way there already!! Anyone hear from Bob Wells yet? Also, again, please hold all checks until we reach the magic number and work out all the logistics. For now the fund stands as follows: Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 ___ Total to Date $ 190.00 For CHC and any other newcomers: We are collecting pledges to handle the cost of laboratory testing of CS at different concentrations against different pathogens For George Martin: I agree that knowing the blood levels vs the ingested levels would be very valuable info. Maybe after this is done we could have a volunteer take a very specific dose on a daily basis for a month then have their blood tested for CS levels. I would be more than happy to serve as the guinea pig myself. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Wound Care - LONG!!
Take Noni (Morinda is a good brand)--It helps with tissue regeneration and wound healing and immune functions. You can apply it directly on the wound. Also, when you take the Colloid of Silver, keep it in your mouth for at least 6 minutes, since it takes about that long to kill pathogens in vitro. When I have a toothache, I leave the silver in my mouth until the pain goes away. Also, support your immune system with the nutrients it needs. (Your White Blood Cells will have to work overtime to get rid of the dead cells. And take plenty of greens and antioxidants to help with the detoxing. :) Joyce On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Carl J. wrote: > Will soon be facing an open draining wound from a necrotizing > (dying) squamous cell carcinoma tumor of the jaw. I am an LPN (inactive > status) and will be doing wound care on the site. It hasn't opened yet, > but I want to be prepared. > My objectives are simple: to keep the wound clean (free of > debris), free from infection, pain free, and to facilitate healing while > minimizing scaring. While I know that it would be difficult to heal > completely due to the nature of the beast - I want to optimize wound > management. While supplies such as bandages, tape, etc. are readily > available from local pharmacies. I need your help/experience in wound > management using herbal methods. Don't really want to go towards > 'normal' pharmaceuticals i.e. Neosporine, etc. I believe once you begin > that route you end up in a circle of killing some organisms while > quietly growing another. I want to keep the wound clean from the get-go > and thus minimize the chance of infection and thus having the expense of > obtaining a wound culture & sensitivity (C&S). > Normal wound care involves cleansing/irrigating the wound with H2O2, > if debris is present, and then rinse with normal saline. I intend to > cleanse with Colloidal Silver, apply a herb based ointment/salve for > healing and to apply a Telfa (non-stick) type pad, and bandage as > appropriate. > My question is this: In reading through "NATURAL HEALING WITH > HERBS" by Humbart Santillo B.S., M.H. I've come across many various > herbs for wound care and need some guidance. Any sources on the web? > Thanks, > Carl > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Wound Care - LONG!!
Will soon be facing an open draining wound from a necrotizing (dying) squamous cell carcinoma tumor of the jaw. I am an LPN (inactive status) and will be doing wound care on the site. It hasn't opened yet, but I want to be prepared. My objectives are simple: to keep the wound clean (free of debris), free from infection, pain free, and to facilitate healing while minimizing scaring. While I know that it would be difficult to heal completely due to the nature of the beast - I want to optimize wound management. While supplies such as bandages, tape, etc. are readily available from local pharmacies. I need your help/experience in wound management using herbal methods. Don't really want to go towards 'normal' pharmaceuticals i.e. Neosporine, etc. I believe once you begin that route you end up in a circle of killing some organisms while quietly growing another. I want to keep the wound clean from the get-go and thus minimize the chance of infection and thus having the expense of obtaining a wound culture & sensitivity (C&S). Normal wound care involves cleansing/irrigating the wound with H2O2, if debris is present, and then rinse with normal saline. I intend to cleanse with Colloidal Silver, apply a herb based ointment/salve for healing and to apply a Telfa (non-stick) type pad, and bandage as appropriate. My question is this: In reading through "NATURAL HEALING WITH HERBS" by Humbart Santillo B.S., M.H. I've come across many various herbs for wound care and need some guidance. Any sources on the web? Thanks, Carl -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
