RE: CSHannah Tds Meter

1999-09-01 Thread Alex C. Torres
Dear P Yanko,
Just received in two days my two TDS form Hanna... they really work. I
ordered via email. Go to the email option. write your info and credit card
info, and send it. In a few minutes you will have the confirmation of your
order...
Alex Torres M.D.

-Original Message-
From: P Yanko [mailto:eagl...@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 4:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSHannah Tds Meter


Having looked at the web site, I attempted to order one of these,
Cant complain about the service their is none !!!

Have e-mailed Hannah usa, australia, canada. Absolutley NO Replies.
Guess someone else got them on a good day.

P Yanko



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CSOT,How old are you?

1999-09-01 Thread Debbie McDonald
http://www.inconnect.com/~genoone/psych/htm
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CSHow to take Silver

1999-09-01 Thread Amy
Hi all!  I'm new to the list and have been watching
patiently to potentially see what I need ... and
have not.  So here I come!  I have this great new
handy dandy bottle of 10PPM Colloidal Silver Solution
in my hand.  Says very little about how to take it.
Does say to take an ounce a day.  However ... I'm 
wondering when is the best time?  Early?  Bedtime?
Empty stomach?  Full?  Have not been able to find 
the answer to that one so I'm putting it out to you
wise folks.  And with the recent FDA wrangling I'm 
going to order a case AND order a silver making kit!
I used to take it years ago when I was DX with 
Systemic Candida but I don't remember much about 
it (except it was WAY expensive!  Have found a 
more reasonable source!).  Thanks in advance! 
Love,Amya...@goodnet.com


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Re: CSHow to take Silver

1999-09-01 Thread Janine
Amy, it doesn't matter when you take it! Just take it when it is conveinent
for you. Don't bother buying a case if you are going to by a CS generator!
As far as how much to take, that is up to you to experiment. If it upsets
your stomach take it with food. I personally take it FOR an upset stomach. I
use about 3-4   4oz. glasses a day right now, until I get better. Good luck
Amy and welcome to the list.

Janine


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CSThanks

1999-09-01 Thread Janine
Andrew,
I received my Beck paper yesterday, I read the whole thing avidly and thank
you very much!  I look forward to building Dr. Beck's zapper as soon as I
get the parts. I would like to build the water ozonizer too but is is too
expensive for me. I appreciate your sharing your story with the list. I
intend to share my new found knowledge with a friend who was recently
diagnosed with lung cancer. I look forward to getting well from my own
mysterious gastrointestinal ailments. thank you so very much. :~)

Janine
janin...@icehouse.net


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Re: CSHannah Tds Meter

1999-09-01 Thread Janine
Alex,   what is their URL?  for Hanna TDS meter? thanks

Janine


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Re: CSIon size was buying CS

1999-09-01 Thread Ivan Anderson
Hi Bob,

Well lets see, webelements provide three or four different atom
sizes, some derived theoretically and others empirically, and
five measurements of the monovalent ion. The size depends upon
the geometry and the environment.

The Tanner calculation is for the *effective* ion size in an
aqueous environment. The wave method (in water? sonic or light?)
has wide use in scientific instruments, but from what I have seen
so far is reaching its limits at these sizes.

But the difference is not large and may lie in the margin of
error.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: Tai-Pan l...@fbtc.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 1999 06:01
Subject: Re: CSIon size was buying CS


 Ivan Anderson wrote:
 
  James,
  go here :
 
http://www.tannerm.com/electrochemistry/ion_speeds/IonSpeeds.htm
 
   Hi Ivan,
  In the Tanner web page on ion mobility they calculated the ion
radii.
   Found the calculation of Ag+1 radius via the Stokes-Einstein
Equation
 to be interesting. It shows a radii of 1.49A (0.149nm) while
wave
 mechics shows 1.37A. A neutral Ag is considered to be 1.44A.
Any
 thoughts on this ?

   Bless you  Bob Lee
 --
 oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
   l...@fbtc.net



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CSfine silver supplier

1999-09-01 Thread Janine
Marsha,   you mentioned a company that sells fine silver wire for CS
generation, unfortunately I lost the name of it, could you please post the
info again? thanks.
Janine


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RE: CSOT,How old are you?

1999-09-01 Thread Robert Ratliff
Page can't be found.

Best Regards, Robert Ratliff
SE Tenn. 
bobratl...@iname.com

-Original Message-
From: Debbie McDonald [mailto:lullw...@flash.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT,How old are you?


http://www.inconnect.com/~genoone/psych/htm
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CSFAQ #1

1999-09-01 Thread Elmatti
Dear Katarina, Mike and List
   This is the question and answer to start our FAQ
Thanks this is great. God bless you all. 
Bob


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CSbatteries

1999-09-01 Thread Janine
Does anyone have any experience with 9 volt battery chargers? I was
considering purchasing one but can't find one that will charge 2 or 4 9 volt
batteries at once. At the rate I'll be using 9 volt batteries I should buy
stock in the companies! Thanks
Janine


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CSSilver List Vendor's FAQ!

1999-09-01 Thread Becky Mahoney
Greetings!

The Silver List serves a diverse community of people interested in
Colloidal Silver. One of the things that draws us together is the
hope of overcoming the hype that surrounds this interesting material.
Our policy is to share what we know and admit what we don't know.

A modest consensus has emerged as to what we know about CS. There's
ample room for debate, but many of the claims that circulate in the
CS marketing world are thoroughly discredited here.

We have a number of vendors on the list with products and services
related to CS who have contributed their knowledge to this consensus.
Although I do not endorse them or their products and services, I can
say that they know what we know -- *and* what we don't know.

The list remains a non-commercial forum, but the question of who 
these vendors are and what they have to sell comes up regularly. For 
this reason we've built the Silver List Vendors FAQ.

The listings are in no particular order. None of the information 
provided has been verified. Instructions for submitting an entry to 
the FAQ are at the end, as is the DISCLAIMER.

Warmest thanks to Becky Mahoney for her generosity in putting 
together this FAQ.


  {   The Silver List Vendors FAQ   }
~~
~~

 Ron Brennen
 Bebe Mfg. Co.

I have been making my CS generator for family, friends, and word of
mouth for about a year and a half. I sell the complete outfit for
$59.50 with lab type filter and 27 volt DC power supply. The complete
package contains a 16 OZ. mason jar,plexiglass top to hold the 999
silver 14 ga. wires and filter.The lab type filter only allows
particles smaller than 2.5 microns t0 pass thru insuring a
consistantly uniform product. The price is $59.50 plus $3.50 shipping
by priority mail. I also sell colloidal gold and silver in 2 and 4 OZ.
amber glass bottles. Silver 2 OZ. $5.,4OZ. $9. Gold 2 OZ.$7. 4 OZ.$12.

 The Bebe Mfg. Co. 
 P.O.Box 403
 Weirsdale, FL 32195
 Tel/Fax (352) 753-3177.

~~
~~

Ivan Anderson
Health Research  Technology Ltd.

Manufacturer of Colloidal Silver, CS based products, CS
Generators, Electromedical Devices.

Colloidal silver:
Colloidal silver is manufactured to Phamaceutical standards.
Filter sterilised to 0.2 micron. Batches bioburden tested and
assayed, by accredited laboratory. Test results available from
HRT. Batch numbers collated and tracked.

 20 ppm:
  200ml   (7.5oz)   Amber bottles:
  1+NZ$13.00, US$6.50
  5+NZ$12.00, US$6.00
  10+   NZ$10.00, US$5.00

 Bulk per litre:
  1L+   NZ$40.00,US$20.00
  5L+   NZ$38.00,US$19.00
  10L+  NZ$34.00,US$17.00
  20L+  NZ$30.00,US$15.00

Other concentrations are available.

Colloidal Silver Generators:

CSGenIII
Current limited, develops 30volts from a single 9V battery or AC
wall adaptor. Supplied with 200ml lidded generating container,
silver electrodes, amber glass bottle, instructions and general
infromation.
Makes clear 10 ppm silver colloid; 1 hour in hot water, 2 hours
in cold water.

NZ$80.00  US$40.00

All prices plus shipping.

 Health Research  Technology
 Email: i...@win.co.nz
 Telephone +64 (9) 529 1551

~~
~~

  Peter D.McLennan, electronics technician

I have designed and manufacture a colloidal silver generator kit...
the Silverdrop generator kit This kit has the features of:- -pulsed
dc operation -27V colloid generation...good process time -current
limit circuitry.particle size results in golden cs -fault
indication -inbuilt meter monitors process current..for repeatable
results -battery test pushbutton.checks battery charge -includes
silver electrode set,batteries,reaction/storage
vessel,filters,instructions... a complete kitjust add distilled
water.Price  A$185 (+pp)


 Peter D.McLennan
 96 Jersey Road
 Dharruk,NSW 
 AUSTRALIA 2770
 email to;  brpete...@msn.com.au

~~
~~

  Allisons Apothecary

Home of the $49.95 Colloidal Silver Generator.  We have a very 
comprehensive site with information on colloidal silver and
colloidal silver generators.  We also offer many supplies for 
most of your colloidal silver needs.  Stop on by for your free
sample of colloidal silver and colloidal silver information booklet!

 James Allison
 4844 East Waltann Lane
 Scottsdale, Arizona  85254
 (602) 569-8618
 http://apothecary.hypermart.net
 apothec...@home.com

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RE: CSIon size was buying CS

1999-09-01 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Whew!
James Osbourne, Holmes

a...@trail.com

-Original Message-
From:   Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz]
Sent:   Wednesday, September 01, 1999 5:44 AM
To: Silver-List
Subject:Re: CSIon size was buying CS

Hi Bob,

Well lets see, webelements provide three or four different atom
sizes, some derived theoretically and others empirically, and
five measurements of the monovalent ion. The size depends upon
the geometry and the environment.

The Tanner calculation is for the *effective* ion size in an
aqueous environment. The wave method (in water? sonic or light?)
has wide use in scientific instruments, but from what I have seen
so far is reaching its limits at these sizes.

But the difference is not large and may lie in the margin of
error.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: Tai-Pan l...@fbtc.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 1999 06:01
Subject: Re: CSIon size was buying CS


 Ivan Anderson wrote:
 
  James,
  go here :
 
http://www.tannerm.com/electrochemistry/ion_speeds/IonSpeeds.htm
 
   Hi Ivan,
  In the Tanner web page on ion mobility they calculated the ion
radii.
   Found the calculation of Ag+1 radius via the Stokes-Einstein
Equation
 to be interesting. It shows a radii of 1.49A (0.149nm) while
wave
 mechics shows 1.37A. A neutral Ag is considered to be 1.44A.
Any
 thoughts on this ?

   Bless you  Bob Lee
 --
 oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
   l...@fbtc.net



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CSSilver

1999-09-01 Thread EJohns9525
Marsha,

Could you post address and info etc needed to get silver from you?

A friend needs new wires.

Thanks,
Edith


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CSNew To This

1999-09-01 Thread Margie L Krick

Hi Everyone,

We are a big time beginner at this and would like some input answered by
you people that know about this subject. We will sure appreciate this.
First off the machine we ended up with is called
Butterfly from Butterfly ProductsP.O. Box 1729, Hillsboro, NH 03244 ,
1800-433-2623
It is a pulse type I think it is called because there is two little
lights on the front that pulses back and forth. Also on the front is a
push on and off button and a turner upper  knob. This machine is called a
plant growth stimulator for legal reasons I guess. Found the address to
send off for it in one of Wayne Green books from the internet
http://www.waynegreen.com   $155.00 includes postage
The book we first found it in is called The Bioelectrifier Handbook 28
pages.
This machine is black in color about the size of a 5 stick margarine box
at the greo. store.
It has one attachment in the back for either the bioelectrifer or the
colloidal silver maker cord.
The bioelectrifier is a three foot cord about the size of a typical
extension cord with what looks like 3 inch copper ends at the end of the
elctric cord. Looks just like pieces of copper house wiring to us.
The other cord is thin electrical cord thin like a little headset cord on
a portable sterio with 10 inch silver wires about the thickness of baggie
ties maybe a little thicker. It is also a 3 foot cord.
The machine runs on a 9 volt battery. According to the book it is
generating the exact same frequency and voltage as a bioelectrifier and
has a voltage multiplier curcuit built in.
This is supposed to be able to make 1 ppm per minute of colloidal silver.

After cruising the internet we became confused at all the machines. 
Any input will be appreciated. Feel free to e-mail us 
Thanks a bunch in advance. We will anxiously be waiting for replies.

Angelica


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #519

1999-09-01 Thread Margie L Krick


Mouser Catalogue
1-800-346-6873
This is what we found in a small pamplet someone uses for all his parts.
We don't know anything about this area just want to know how to use a
purchased pulsing type for our own use. 

Angelica


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cs for contacts?

1999-09-01 Thread Michael C McNeill
Anyone use CS for a sterile rinse with your contact lenses?

Rejoice in the small steps!!
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Re: CSsprains Brooks B.

1999-09-01 Thread johnphil
I would like to have seen your post last year on soft tissue trauma and
the magnetic pulser, but I wasn't here then. Any chance of reposting it?

I read the info on the mag. pulser on Beck's site but all it talked
about was HIV and aids, so I decided it wasn't for me.  Is there
anywhere I could find out its other uses?John


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CS making CS what and why and how

1999-09-01 Thread Elmatti

Katarina wrote:

 I've been following the increasingly technical discussions of the
 parameters for making CS with increasing awe at the the minds of
 those of you who can figure out this stuff -- and I hope eventually
 someone will summarize it all for those of us who are
 technologically handicapped.

Never fear! For someone claiming to be technologically impaired, 
you've acquitted yourself handsomly below. g

 But meanwhile I'm back to my quest to make the best CS I can with
 the generator I already have, which is the Bob Beck Silver Pulser,
 and I want to summarize what I think I know? and see if I got it
 or am way off base.

Okay, the silver pulser outputs a modest DC voltage that turns on and 
off rather quickly, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if the CS 
generator hookup for it just lets you use the power supply directly 
or if it uses the pulsed output. In either case, it will produce good 
CS.

 I assume that because my generator does not limit it's power it is
 unlikely that I can make high ppm cs without making larger
 particles.

If you get the ppm up high enough, the current flow will increase and 
you will start making larger particles. That is exactly right!
 
 It seems to me that it is agreed that larger amounts of lower ppm cs
 will have the same effect as small amounts of higher ppm cs
 (although they might not be as easy to use for a sinus infection
 because of having to get more up there).

Yes, you simply have to use *enough*, whatever that turns out to be 
for you, your CS, and your condition. Using a spray bottle or nasal 
inhaler for the sinuses as well as taking it by mouth will probably 
work for you if my and others' results are an indication. 
Concentration does not seem critical.

 And it seems to me that smaller particle size probably means more
 effective - unless you are going after larger bugs - so I'd rather
 try to make smaller particle size at a lower ppm if necessary. Am I
 accurate in assuming that if the cs I make is gold it will have
 larger particles than if it is clear? So If I want smaller particles
 I should run the generator for less time and get a clear sol. 

There are two ways to get clear sol:  1) limit the current so that 
the particle size never gets too big, 2) don't make your CS very 
strong.

If the CS is gold then the particles will be bigger than the clear if 
it was made with low current. But plenty of people have had fine 
results with the golden, so don't dismiss it. 

Of course your sol will start out clear and stay clear for a while,
until you get it strong enough to notice the color. Part of that is
because it is the low current part of the generating process before
the current ramps up, as you suspect, and part because it's just not 
concentrated enough to see.

The irony is many of us started out making clear CS using salt and 
people started hammering on it as being inferior to the golden CS. 
Then the High Voltage AC advocates, (and now even the the Low Voltage 
high tech folks) started belittling golden for not being clear like 
theirs is! 

Don't worry. What you're making will be just like the stuff many of
us have used with good results.

 The clear sol has weaker tyndall - does that mean it probably has a
 lower ppm?

If it's been made with low current, long slow generation, then the 
ppm might be even higher. In that case the tyndall is weak because 
the particles just don't reflect in the visible spectrum and your 
laser passes right through.

If it's weaker because you stopped sooner, then it's just weaker, or 
possibly both small and weak.

If you let it run 'til you get noticeable color, you'll have probably 
made a range of particle sizes, the largest of which should be okay 
if you don't try to run too long.

 I do know that I need to experiment with different waters and that
 if I find a good one then I may be able to get stronger tyndall but
 still have it be clear - correct?

To be clear, you'd have to limit the current enough not to start 
making the bigger particles. Still, I'd not worry.

One way to tell the *relative* purity of your water is whether it 
takes more or less time to start producing visible particles when 
starting with plain water (no starter). Longer is purer.

 Also, I think I am going to quit heating the water because it seems
 to hurry the process and end up with it gold colored quicker - which
 means bigger particles?

Actually, Peter Lindemann, who is one of the folks who suggested 
heating the water, said to do it because it resulted in *smaller* 
particles, which he claims to have observed using electron microscopy 
of samples.

It's not necessary, but doesn't hurt, and does speed things up.

 And lastly, if I bend the silver wires so that they are further
 apart it seems to take much longer for the tyndall to appear - is
 this because it is much weaker for longer or is it because they are
 smaller particles?

Probably some of both? If they are really close together and you move 
them to where 

Re: CSRe[2]: CS and braces

1999-09-01 Thread Bill Schramm
careful here.  Carbon DIoxide is necessary for you to breathe.  Carbon
MONoxide can kill you.  So is carbon a toxic or a nontoxic element?
Some people need iron supplements to prevent anemia, but for other people
iron supplements could be fatal (hemachromatosis patients).  So is iron a
toxic or nontoxic element?

The point is although CS may be nontoxic in itself, the potential to react
with other substances to form harmful compounds needs to be investigated.

In this case I don't think there is anything to worry about.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Earle sear...@ix.netcom.com
To: johnphil silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:26 PM
Subject: CSRe[2]: CS and braces



j The question about CS and braces and dentures makes me wonder if it
j would harm metal fillings.  Discoloration wouldn't matter but wouldn't
j want to harm my fillings from swishng CS or if there would be a chemical
j reaction that would release something toxic.   John


Your metal fillings are toxic to begin with. How could a
non-toxic element like silver make them more so?

Sam



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