Re: CSvortex
How in the Sam Hill can this be dated 01 Jan 2000 Nell On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:37:38 -0800 THE TROLL broompi...@netzero.net writes: Hi Robert and List. When you say vortex on the other bottle, do you mean the plastic tube that connects the two bottles? The vortex is the actual cyclone shaped swirl of water and that is what I meant when I used the word. To start, the water goes in the bottle with the magnets on it. then the plastic gizmo screws on to the bottle, then the other bottle screws into the gizmo. Now you have sort of an hour glass looking thing with the magnet bottle 3/4 to 7/8 full of water on the bottom and the empty bottle on top. Hold the bottom of the the empty bottle with your right hand and pick up the bottom of the magnet bottle with your left hand and as you are rotating the assembly to get the bottle of water to be on top, start moving your left hand in a quickly paced clockwise circular motion as though you were wiping up a spill on the kitchen table. By the time you get the bottles upright, the water should be swirling around fast enough for the vortex action to get started. I am left-handed and it is a simple and natural motion for me but I suspect a right-handed person will need to work at it a bit before it is a comfortable thing to do. ALSO, something you mentioned just caused me to have a (hot?) flash. I previously had said that the magnets wanted to be close to the neck of the bottle. Now, I see the wisdom of the magnets being near the widest portion of the funnel part of the bottle. The water is swirling around the fastest at that point and I believe that is desirable. My magnets are a little less than 2 long (and a little less than 1 wide)and span the distance between the wide part and the neck and that is why I was concerned about the magnet being close to the neck. David Robert Ratliff wrote: That's what I thought, but the one I bought had magnets on one bottle and the vortex on another bottle. The small round magnets are very near the large portion of the second bottle. I tried to make magnetized water per there instructions, but the water does not move inside two closed bottles. -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
Re: CSvortex
In a message dated 10/19/1999 6:14:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bobratl...@iname.com writes: Robert Is that the one that sells for $13.95? wong That's what I thought, but the one I bought had magnets on one bottle and the vortex on another bottle. The small round magnets are very near the large portion of the second bottle. I tried to make magnetized water per there instructions, but the water does not move inside two closed bottles. Best Regards, Robert Ratliff SE Tenn. bobratl...@iname.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSvortex
joanie...@juno.com wrote: How in the Sam Hill can this be dated 01 Jan 2000 Nell On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:37:38 -0800 THE TROLL broompi...@netzero.net writes: Why, Nell, How did you know I hired Sam Hill to check my computer for YK2 bugs?? I fired him...sucker forgot to reset the date and time. He'll never get another job in this town! David -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSpower supply
Ivan How do you do this? Very poor with electronics or electricity. wong In a message dated 10/19/1999 8:42:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdev...@mail.id.net writes: You'll might want to throw a current limiting resistor in line with things, so that dead short current will not exceed a few milliamps. Assuming that you're using a couple of silver wire electrodes, this will prevent peak current from getting above a milliamp or so. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSVortex made easy
In a message dated 10/17/1999 2:04:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, broompi...@netzero.net writes: Just a follow-up to provide an example. I have a 2 liter bottle with a cap that has a 3/8 hole in it. I have attached the magnets on the shoulder by the neck. David Wouldn't just swirling water in a coke bottle to create a vortex for a few minutes work? Must the water drain from one bottle to the other or it's just to pass by the magnets? wong need some space to get the water swirling around) and with finger over the hole, star swirling the water in what will be a clockwise direction when up side down and just as I am removing finger from the hole, I am inserting the neck into a gallon milk jug. The neck just fits in and the jug will support the vortex bottle. Actually, the jug opening is just a bit too small to let in enough air. It works! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Dear Dana, Where is located this girl? Maybe the D.K. machine or the Vibroclast can help her... just a tough... or the Polyatomic Oxygen? To us the P. Atomic Oxygen is giving really amazing results! Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: den...@perle.com [mailto:den...@perle.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 3:10 PM To: silverl...@eskimo.com Subject: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help?? Hello CS listers- This is completely off topic and I apologize for that but I am devastated at the news I received today. I am asking for any help you wonderful people might have because I do not know where else to turn. A very dear friend of mine has a 7 year old daughter who has been diagnosed with an inoperable brain glioma. Up until today, she has been in a research program for a new type of chemotherapy that has worked to keep the cancer isolated and under control. Today, they were told that she must go off of the program because there is a high risk of Leukemia associated with the dosage of chemo she has been receiving. The hospital and doctors will not take responsibility for this have essentially told them that there is nothing else they will do for her. Unfortunately, I am not a doctor and do not know any other details regarding the type of chemo she was receiving. I only know that thus far it has helped keep her here with us and now her parents fear the worst. Please, if anyone has any info at all, could you share it with me. If you would prefer, you can email me directly at den...@perle.com. Thank you all so much...please say a prayer for the Henry family...they really need it. Dana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSpower supply
What voltage are you running these days Wong? The resistor value can be calculated using R = V/I (resistance in ohms equals the voltage divided by the current in amps. For 12 Volts and assuming a 2mA short circuit current then a 6000 ohm (6K0) resistor will suffice but is probably not necessary. [ I have found in my system the load resistance (CS solution) is about 20K ohms at 12 to 15 ppm. As the load resistance is higher than the determined limiting resistor value, the actual current does not reach the chosen current, in fact the limiting resistor further limits the current, in this case, to 0.46mA (12V divided sum of load and limiting resistor) and is therefore not required] The actual current without a limiting resistor is 0.6mA which I feel is a pretty good maximum. For 36V in my system an 18K0 resistor will limit the short circuit current to 2mA. In actual current terms, the current will be 0.95mA, with a load resistance of 20K ohms. For a 27V a 7K0 resistor will limit the actual current to 1mA and will have a short circuit current of about 4mA. This resistor (just a cheap 1/4 watt resistor from your local electronic shop) is wired in series, that is, placed between one electrode and its power source wire. You don't need to solder it, just wrap one leg around the silver electrode and grab the other leg with the alligator clip of your power supply lead. Regards - Ivan. - Original Message - From: wong...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; i...@win.co.nz Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 1999 21:53 Subject: Re: CSpower supply Ivan How do you do this? Very poor with electronics or electricity. wong In a message dated 10/19/1999 8:42:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdev...@mail.id.net writes: You'll might want to throw a current limiting resistor in line with things, so that dead short current will not exceed a few milliamps. Assuming that you're using a couple of silver wire electrodes, this will prevent peak current from getting above a milliamp or so. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSenzyme info
Thanks for that Robert, Most interesting. Have you seem the MUCOS web site: http://www.mucos.de/uk/index.htm lots of enzyme info and test results of enzyme therapy. Cheers - Ivan. - Original Message - From: Robert Ratliff bobratl...@iname.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 1999 03:28 Subject: CSenzyme info FYI http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-044.shtml Best Regards, Robert Ratliff SE Tenn. bobratl...@iname.com - -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSpower supply
Hi there Tom, All of those options will generate perfectly good CS. Follow the link bellow to find a protocol for using a 9 Volt AC adaptor. This is probably the simplest generator possible, but produces good clear CS and is repeatable batch to batch. http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html?mID=10918 I can supply you with a graph that shows expected concentration vs time, let me know. You will catch on to the jargon in no time. Regards - Ivan. - Original Message - From: Tom Bellino tbell...@nwa.quik.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 18 October 1999 22:58 Subject: CSpower supply We have a AC adapter 120AC to 9Volt , 500 MA . Can this be used in place of a 9 volt battery? We also have 3 l2 V 2ah batteries with charger. Is it possible to use 2 of these as a power supply? Just recently joined the list and have a ton of questions and will appreciate all the help I can get. Greatly confused by some of the terms used in posts. Tom Bellino the bookmender bookmend...@bcg.net www.bookmenders.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS Production
I have seen a number of responses on this list as to current limiting, polarity switching, etc. But I have enough electrical/electronic experience to know that there is many variables with this that needs covered. Let me relay my limited experience with this. I was hunting a source of silver and decided that the easiest one to obtain for me was bullion bars in the one troy ounce size. I found these easily at a coin dealer. I cleaned them and then using alligator clamps above the water line, put them into some distilled water with the clamps above the surface of the water. I used a wide mouthed pint Mason jar with the bars opposite each other against the sides. I have a DC bench power supply that I connected to this and set it at 27 volts. I turned the power supply on and let this set up run for a few hours. At the end of this time, the solution was fairly clear and one of the bars had a fair build up of a dark flaky surface I took to be silver. I have taken this to mean that some silver was deposited on this electrode. From my reading on this list, I have come to the conclusion that it came from a high current flow during the process. I reversed the polarity on the next run and the deposits came loose and dropped into the bottom of the jar or floated to the top as thin flakes. One question I have is if the polarity is switched every minute, what happens to these deposits? Are they kept in solution as colloidal silver or are they just dropped to the bottom anyway but with little build up on the electrodes? I put a plastic lid on the jar and left the contents sit without the electrodes in it till the next day. The color turned a rich gold by then. I have no way to judge the PPM of this solution. But what I would like to know is, with the greater surface area of these bars and the distance between them being different with different set ups, can one just use the current strength as a judgment as to the silver being put into solution over a certain time period? And by keeping this at a lower rate, control the silver micron size by lowering the blast off rate? I have seen where some have inserted a resistor to limit voltage/amperage in these setups. Does this not slow down the early formation of the solution when the resistance of the same is high? Would not the control of the current be better as some have suggested along with polarity switching? It would seem to me that this would give better control under the chances of other variables like electrode size, distance apart, solution concentration, etc. Am I correct in this reasoning? In doing this, it would seem that changes in electrode size and other factors could be discounted more. Thanks for any comments that those of you with more experience can give me. I have been buying my colloidal silver for some time and I use it to control infections as I have a chronic lung disease. I have found that when I get an infection that starts to limit my breathing, by putting colloidal silver in a nebulizer setup, I can help keep these infections down and get relief quickly. Much more quickly than with antibiotics. It has been a very positive help for me. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS, to make or not to make money...PLEASE READ!
In a message dated 10/19/99 6:26:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sinaj...@aol.com writes: When I was a newbie people helping people without trying to make a buck impressed me. If this was just a list where people were trying to sell their wares I would have passed it all up and blew it off totally. Of course I like the thought of people giving things away, but if they have money invested in their product they will go broke in a short time. I'm very greatfull to those on this list that offer to sell you a product and give you all the information you need for free. Linda -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Dear Dr. Torres- We are in Chicago, Illinois. Can you email me privately to find out about the treatments you are speaking of? I am very interested in learning more about them. Thank you Dana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSChemtrail protests
Re: CSChemtrail protests
I don't know why it didn't attach, so here is the url instead. Marshall http://www.tiac.net/users/tobya/chemprotest.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS ppm standard
I've read many e-mails on this forum about achieved ppm, but little on how the parties accomplished and confirmed their results. It would be nice to create a data base of methods in order to create a standard. I have seen a couple of e-mails which addressed using a volt-ohm-meter to read ppm. Example: 4usec/cm = 1/250kohms; this measurement appears to be achieved by placing the VOM probes in the CS solution at a spacing of 1cm. Example2: 1ppm = 1.6usec/cm (+/- 20%); If both examples are correct then 5ppm would be equal to 5ppm X 1.6usec/cm = 8usec/cm 8usec/cm = 1/R = 125kohms resistance between the VOM probes which are spaced 1cm apart in the CS solution. If we can gather data from known ppm solutions using the above method ,a rough standard could be established and everyone would know about what strength of CS solution they have produced. Resistance measurements of 5ppm, 10ppm, 20ppm, and 30ppm should give a well rounded data base. I realize that their are many other factors to consider when trying to measure ppm. The purpose of this e-mail is to try and establish a standard by which everyone can use without purchasing some expensive high tech device. If a simple standard has already been established, what is it? I would like to know if anyone has a recipe for making colloidal silver salve. Thank you, BillH -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSChemtrail protests
Attachment has no content. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 8:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSChemtrail protests File: ATT2.txt -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question
Hi Nicole, I don't know if this will help with insomnia - but maybe someone else on the list can give us more information. Hulda Clark reccomends taking Ornithine at night while you are on her parasite herbs -- to fight insomnia. I've been doing the parasite herbs and I am very restless at night if I don't take four capsules of the ornithine. Don't know how it works or whether it would help with Lyme die off - maybe someone can tell us. I didn't understand - do you take your acidophilus (and I hope Bifidus too) in Am or Pm? Just make sure you seperate it from the cs. Take care and hope you feel much better soon. Katarina Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:59:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Fraser on_ne_change_...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOOPS.. Message-ID: 19991019195934.20104.rocketm...@web1702.mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello again! I am sorry I didn't see your other message! PLEASE disregard my other e-mail! ;0) Oh thank you..I am VERY thankfull I wasn't on abx long before damage was done as well! I was leary to take them in the first place.. I am glad you agree about the fast and CS.:0) I figured if they tell you you can have herbal tea..why not cs? It isn't exactly a capsule or pill you know? It is just silver water..so I didn't think there was any harm in it..but I read the website and they are firm on no supplements so i thought I would see if others felt the same as me or not. But thanks for your advice because I was thinking of taking the acidophilus still with the fast. Like at night like I usually do. The herx I guess gives me worse insomnia as it is! I take it in the morning or afternoon. I don't mind if I herx..I have been through quite a lot as it is and just want to get well. But I will just decrease the CS if I herx too bad. Thank you for the warm welcome to the list, and I REALLY appreciate your advice and help! :0) I am looking forward to seeing how the cleanse makes me feel. I did a 2 day juice fast before and felt GREAT..I felt a little tired and had some symptoms..but at the same tim I just felt I don't know clear or something? I felt I could do more...so now thanks to you I will;0) Have a great day! Nicole:O) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS[Fwd: CSIntestine, Pt6]
:-) -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Greetings beautieous jewels of the CS art, LYMPHATICS,con`t The composition of tissue fluid is similar to that of blood plasma. It is a colorless or yellowish fluid possessing an alkaline reaction, a salty taste and a faint odor. When examined under the microscope, it is seen to consist of cells floating in a clear liquid. Lets look at the composition of blood plasma and lymph (tissue fluid): Blood plasma lymph Specific gravity 1.051.02 Red cellsmany a few White cells many granulocyte count lower lymphocyte count higher Blood platelets many none Blood proteins high content low content Waste products low content high content Nutrients high content low content clotting quickly slowly Colloidal protein high low; gobulin absent Water,sugar,salt are about the same concentration in both The process of tissue fluid formation is continual. The lymph system supplements the capillaries and veins in the return of tissue fluid to the blood. Its composition is the consequence of the varying needs and wastes of different tissues at different times. The loss and gain average out and its composition is pretty constantly maintained. The fluids in the serous, cerebrospinal,synovial cavities, the eye and ear vary. The lymph drainage system is called the lymph vascular system. Even with this drainage fluid may accumulate in the tissue spaces. In the tissues we find the *closed ends* of minute lymph capillaries, which are comparable to and often larger than the blood capillaries. The lymph capillaries unite to form *lymphatics* , the lymphatics form into large vessels until they converge into two large ducts; the thoracic duct and right lymphatic duct. These ducts empty the lymph into the vein system and return the lymph to the blood system. The lymphatic system has valves in it ,which forces the lymph to go in one direction only. There is no pump as such, the fluid being forced to move by the action of your muscles and respiration (breathing). Deep breathing,as in exercise, helps the lymph move, as well as the contraction of the muscles while exercising. A normal body without regular exercise is a body half dead from toxin build up and no lymphatic flow.It can not be stressed enough how important exercise is to the body. We have evolved as active creatures. The lymph capillaries are a single layer of endothelial cells, having a dentated outline. In general the lymph vessels accompany and are closely parallel to the veins. Lynph vessels are found in every tissue and organ that contains blood vessels. In the interior of the body they lie in the submucous tissue throughout the whole of the length of the gastropulmonary and genitourinary tracts. They are in the first three layers of the mucous membrane,the epithelium,basement membrane and stroma.Refer to part two. The lymphatics that have their orgin in the villa and micro villa of the small intestine are called *lacteals*. During the process of digestion they are filled with chyle,which is white from the fat proteins in it. The lymphatics carry tissue fluid (lymph) from the tissues to the veins. Here it becomes mixed with the blood, enters the superior vena cava, and then the right atrium of the heart. LYMPH NODES Lymph nodes are small, oval or bean shaped bodies which are in the lymphatic system. They vary in size from a pin head to almound size. All lymph must pass thru at least one lymph node on its way back to the blood. This is vital to the health of the body. A node has a slight depression on one side called a *hilus*. The lymph vessels enter and leave through the hilus. The node contains fibrous bands called *trabeculae* which divide the node,dividing it into irregular spaces, which communicate freely with each other. The irregular spaces are occupied by a mass of lymphoid tissue,which,however,does not fill them but leaves a narrow channel for the passage of lymph. The lymph enters by the *afferent* vessels,circulates through the node and leaves by the *efferent* vessels. No lymph ever reaches the blood with passing through at least one node. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSBob Berger address?
Dear Everyone, Does anyone have Bob Berger's info on how to send him samples for ppm testing? Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSVortex made easy
Hi Wong, You wrote: Wouldn't just swirling water in a coke bottle to create a vortex...or it's just to pass by the magnets? I use swan-necked bottles labelled N and S to make magnetized water and I use either one to create a vortex. A Cognac Otard 0.7 litre bottle has a long and slender neck with a pulp stopper. The Cognac Otard bottle comes in two colours: Transparent and Deep Green. I rather you choose the transparent one. My buddies gave me a carton of Cognac Otard bottles- empty ones ! See if you can get a pair of this type If you have a N and a S magnet and two slender neck bottles with over-hanging lips like that of the Cognac Otard bottle, you are on to create a turbulent vortex. Firstly, fix the magnets 3'' above the broadest part of the bottle. I usually fill the bottle with distilled water leaving the upper two and a half inches empty. I add a teaspoonful of colloidal minerals to the bottle of distilled water. I leave it for 10 minutes for revitalization while I get ready the other bottle.You will notice that the circular borders of the bottle's mouth overhang the slender neck of the bottle by 1/2 . So when you invert the filled bottle with fixed magnets over the waiting, empty bottle and the two properly aligned and balanced, what you see is something looking very much like an elongated hourglass. You will see Nature's forces at work creating a vortex of churning water above and water rushing pass the magnets to splash into the receptacle bottle below. Honestly, I do not know which direction I must swirl because I am living near the equator. I just simply make a swirling motion a few times and down it. I really hope you can get hold of two discarded Cognac Otard bottles for your experiment and use. These shapely bottles make attractive ornaments. With regards Lew wong...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/17/1999 2:04:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, broompi...@netzero.net writes: Just a follow-up to provide an example. I have a 2 liter bottle with a cap that has a 3/8 hole in it. I have attached the magnets on the shoulder by the neck. David Wouldn't just swirling water in a coke bottle to create a vortex for a few minutes work? Must the water drain from one bottle to the other or it's just to pass by the magnets? wong need some space to get the water swirling around) and with finger over the hole, star swirling the water in what will be a clockwise direction when up side down and just as I am removing finger from the hole, I am inserting the neck into a gallon milk jug. The neck just fits in and the jug will support the vortex bottle. Actually, the jug opening is just a bit too small to let in enough air. It works! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSvortex
Hi Folks! I reread the article to see if I could find any clue to the question about stirring in one container. It appears that there is good news. Here is a section of the article. I have emphasized parts. - Which of these methods will produce the maximum efficient structuring? Lets look at the worst first. Simply putting the water into a closed container, placing 2 magnets on either side of the container and shaking vigorously for 1 minute will produce a slight structuring - hardly enough to bother with. The vortex combined with the magnetic field is the best. Providing you remember to take into account the Zeta potential - one of the 5 essential factors that determines a colloids life and effectiveness. Too much of a magnetic charge can make your structure (and its resulting colloid) almost worthless. In between is the stirring method. Put the water into a cup or glass and STIR IT WITH A MAGNET, SWIFTLY ENOUGH FOR A VORTEX to form in the liquid. Stir for 30 seconds. Let the water stand for 6 minutes at least. This produces structuring four times better than the shaking method. REPEAT REPEAT THE STIRRING METHOD AFTER THE FIRST SIX MINUTES AND YOU'LL MAKE IT ALMOST AS GOOD AS THE FUNNEL METHOD, WHICH FOLLOWS. With the funnel method you acquire a funnel that produces a vortex of swirling of the water as it empties. Not all funnels will do this. The swirl should be in a clockwise direction. Attach one or two magnets to the outside of the funnel, on opposite sides, down near the narrow end, with the positive side and negative sides in toward the funnel. Pour the water through the funnel (making sure of the swirling action). Let stand at least 6 minutes and repeat. This method produces an excellent structure, but it only works well if you're doing a quart or more at a time. The article also gives some clues as to how we might test to see if we are doing anything right. I'm workin' on it. Keep Drinkin' --- David -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSVortex made easy
Hi All you Guys I am sorry but seem to be missing something here, are the south seeking faces of the magnets against the bottle or the other way around? James H-McMillan David Bolin wrote: Hi Folks! Just a quickie. You only need one bottle and its cap with a hole in it for the vortex part. Instead of a matching bottle for storage, find a bottle that has an opening just a bit bigger than the neck and cap of the vortex bottle. The vortex bottle neck will just fit inside the storage bottle neck and all will work just as well. If you don't have the tools to make a hole (3/8 or so), you can take the cap from a spring water sports bottle. It already has a hole (~ 1/2) in it , so if you pull the knob up to drinking position and saw across just below the knob, you are almost there. There will still be some of the tube left, but now you can see how much more you have to saw/file/chew off to get to where it is almost flat. These caps seem to vary in style and shapes, so that is why I am not being very specific. The main thing is to saw or file it to the point where going any farther will start to open the hole wider. So, that's it. A bottle and cap w/hole, a bottle into which the other bottle neck will fit, and some magnets. Can it get any simpler?? Time to cut Z. Good luck, David -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNew to group
Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna
Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Dear Dana Try a zapper? According to Hulda Clarck it stops cancer in its tracks, then you work on the the toxins and parasites. James H-McMillan den...@perle.com wrote: Hello CS listers- This is completely off topic and I apologize for that but I am devastated at the news I received today. I am asking for any help you wonderful people might have because I do not know where else to turn. A very dear friend of mine has a 7 year old daughter who has been diagnosed with an inoperable brain glioma. Up until today, she has been in a research program for a new type of chemotherapy that has worked to keep the cancer isolated and under control. Today, they were told that she must go off of the program because there is a high risk of Leukemia associated with the dosage of chemo she has been receiving. The hospital and doctors will not take responsibility for this have essentially told them that there is nothing else they will do for her. Unfortunately, I am not a doctor and do not know any other details regarding the type of chemo she was receiving. I only know that thus far it has helped keep her here with us and now her parents fear the worst. Please, if anyone has any info at all, could you share it with me. If you would prefer, you can email me directly at den...@perle.com. Thank you all so much...please say a prayer for the Henry family...they really need it. Dana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSVortex made easy
fhlew wrote: (To Wong) I really hope you can get hold of two discarded Cognac Otard bottles for your experiment and use. These shapely bottles make attractive ornaments. With regards Lew Wong, If you can't get two discarded Cognac Otard bottles, get two full ones, I'll empty and discard them for you. Gee, I'm a nice guy. David -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSVortex made easy
Hi James! The article says to have the magnets on opposite sides of the bottle and with one magnet having it's north pole facing the water while the other magnet has it's south pole facing the water. That is what I did originally. The pepper plants and the strawberry plant seemed to love it. Since some folks magnetize water by placing it on the south pole of a powerful magnet to make south water and also make north water with the north pole, I am now setting up a system to make gallons-at-a-time SOUTH water by having all the south pole of the magnets facing the water. Can't wait to see the results! David James H-McMillan wrote: Hi All you Guys I am sorry but seem to be missing something here, are the south seeking faces of the magnets against the bottle or the other way around? James H-McMillan -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNew to group
Hi Anna, Teach me the handwriting in your posting. Then only , I will tell. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna
Re: CSNew to group
This is from personal experience only. I have found that CS has difficulty when mucus is involved. I feel it is probably due to the lack of mobility of the particles in the mucus. I have found though that taking NAC (N-Acetyl-L-Cyhsteine) which is an antioxidant and amino acid is very effective in clearing the mucus, and then the CS can do it's magic. I find the combination for myself and members of my family to work very well for congestion, sinus problems and so forth. Others here have used neubilizers, and I think they probably are good way to go as well, but I have had no experience with them. Marshall Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna
Re: CS Kitty Treatment
Katrina, how much CS into Kitty water per day. Thanks, the lady with the ill kitty is very excited and said the the symptoms of your kitten are just like the kitty she has. Thanks Deborah __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Thank you for responding - can you email me privately to discuss this treatment? Thank you so very much for your response- Dana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSLew Fong, Lucida Handwriting 14pt. Now tell
-Original Message- From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com; Anna G Warmuth awarm...@uslink.net Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:26 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to group Hi Anna, Teach me the handwriting in your posting. Then only , I will tell. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna
Re: CSNew to group
Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Dear Anna, Hi, and welcome! We had a fellow on our list a while ago who had Cystic Fibrosis. He is now gone on, Bless his soul, but for the last while he had no lung infections with CS use. We all wish he`d found out about CS years ago...sigh I hope this will help. Good luck! Marsha, a former Lyme sufferer cured with CS...
Re: CSLast plea for help
Hello Katrina I have a testimonial for CS. My husband has myasthenia gravis. For approx. eight months he has been totally exhausted, dragging himself up the few steps into the house after work, and making it to the bed for the rest of the night. He started taking CS and within a few days he had enough energy to mow the lawn and stay up till 11 or 12 PM. Carol Ryan - Original Message - From: Katarina Wittich kato...@mindspring.com To: Silver A silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 1:17 AM Subject: CSLast plea for help Hey everyone, well, so far the Uses of CS FAQ is not doing very well. I have received only three stories of uses for CS. That's right, three. So either there really aren't that many uses for cs -- or you guys think that everyone else is sending them in and so no-one has -- or you would prefer to answer people's questions on an individual basis. I just thought it would be easier if there was a FAQ that people could refer to for the basics so that list time would be spent on more detailed questions and answers. So, please, please, send me your testimonials on your personal uses of CS and try to remember to include what amounts of what ppm cs used and for how long. Thanks so much, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSvortex
hi group...does anyone have plans fro building a structured water/ vorte machine which we could make ourselves? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSVortex made easy
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:10:25 EDT, wong...@aol.com wrote: Incidentally, I drilled a 3/8 hole in the bottle cap, 3/4 filled with water and turned it upside down. No water flow. How you do dat? That's a childs magician trick! Air pressure is keeping the water from escaping. Does it stay in even when you swirl the bottle? You may have to increase the hole size. Chuck Being in politics is like being a football coach-- you have to be smart enough to understand the game and stupid enough to think it's important -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net