Re: CS>Measurement of Conductivity

2000-09-28 Thread Tony Moody
Hullo Ivan,
Its good to know that using a precision resistor is practically as good
as the calibration solutions. 
> 
> Is there a link to this circuit?
>
I'm not familiar with a link. 
I will undertake to scan the pages and post it , but not right now, I'm
moving house and need to concentrate on what goes where and when.
Ref. Elektor 304 circuits. #201 Conductance Meter. 910039 - 12
Regards.

Ivan Anderson wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tony Moody" 
> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> > Ivan,
> > I guess the complication of using a calibration solution is to cater
> for
> > any oxidation on the probes faces or to account for the probes not
> being
> > the exact size and distance apart. There must be some reason.
> > This circuit uses a 10kHz rectangular wave oscillator which is high
> > enough frequency to prevent electrolysis. DC voltage or current would
> > distort the measurement.
> 
> You're right... the use of a calibration solution is to compensate for
> the discrepencies in the sensing mechanism, and it makes sense to
> calibrate in a solution similar to the one you are measuring, but I have
> calibration solutions in silver nitrate, potasium chloride and sodium
> chloride, and have found that the precision resistor to be spot on. That
> may well change over time I suppose, but for the purpose of reading the
> concentration of CS, which is different from the theoretical measurement
> of Ag+ ions by some margin (although repeatable from batch to batch)
> some mis-calibration would not matter much.
> 
> > A 555 chip powers a resistance bridge (including the unknown
> > conductance) which feeds a TLC272 opamp with feedback to give X10
> > amplification, signal is then high quality rectified with the other
> > TLC272, buffered with another one and pumped through a 50uA meter for
> > indication.
> >
> > BTW They talk of using two pins from a print header, preferably gold
> > plated, for the probes. Also talks about a fixed distance apart but
> not
> > an enclosed volume.
> >
> > Tony
> 
> Is there a link to this circuit?
> 
> Regards - Ivan
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Re: CS>zappers

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Dear Wendy,

It does sound like your skeleton expericenccould have been a screen
memory.

barb
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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Chuck

Re:OH YEAH??
THWPP!!! (Opus the penguin).



"Snickergiggle.,...giggle...snortsmirk...



-Barb
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Re: CS>Golden toe nails

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Bricky,

Have you ever considered using one of these radionics devices on your trees. 
I have read such things properly used have  a high rate of getting rid of
things like parasites in crops.

Barb
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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Dear Chuck,

YOu can't win by tossing the game.  You have to play...no foreits allowed.

Barb...grinning evilly

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Re: CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Dear Chunk,

Yes when I make a batch of 4-theives vinegar just the horseradish peels the
paint off the walls.

---Barb
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CS>Testing and bother

2000-09-28 Thread Tim Eastman
O-kay, I know some of you nice folks test samples of CS. I just can't
remember which of you!
So could you post me on the side and give me s-mail directions etc?

Also my sister the metalurgical chemist is driving me nuts and swears up and
down that we're poisoning ourselves beyond repair. Could someone PLEASE
point me to a good webpage or an article in the archives which will show her
*chemically* why that which we produce ourselves is safe to use (barring
deliberate massive ingestions).

Ivan was helpful in some of his material posted to me and beyond that I am
looking for WHY our ppm and micron size is safe. I am not trying to give her
a bodyslam. I love her dearly and not all brothers and sisters in mid-life
can say that. But given her background in metalurgical chemistry is
difficult to *ahh hmmm* get a word in edgewise.

THis is old hat to the list so if you want to spare the bandwidth please
post direct to me.

THANK-YOU!

Tim Eastman


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CS>the silver list digest

2000-09-28 Thread Duncan Crow
Hello Mike;

I'm really into the digest but can you zip it into one file like the egroups
do?  This is a rather active list, and all this clicking on the attachments
is making my wrist sore..

Duncan


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Re: CS>Re: HVAC CS

2000-09-28 Thread Del Crow
Hey, ThanksThat is good of you!  I still haven't got my results back.
It took a week last time I sent some in.At 10:15 AM 28/09/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Del;
>
>I had not heard of anyone making CS as you described so I setup to make some.
>I use 12,000 VAC, electrodes 1" X 4" wet, spaced 3". Brew time 4 hours with
>very good DW C0 = .22 uS.
>
>The results are as follows: conductance (Cf) = 7 us at end of run.  C12hrs
= 4
>uS , the PPM is 4.2, and the T.E. is medium.
>
>There was a T.E. showing after 45 minutes.
>
>Just for Information.
>
>"Ole Bob"
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Re: CS>Re: HVAC CS

2000-09-28 Thread Del Crow
Hey, ThanksThat is good of you!  I still haven't got my results back.
It took a week last time I sent some in.At 10:15 AM 28/09/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Del;
>
>I had not heard of anyone making CS as you described so I setup to make some.
>I use 12,000 VAC, electrodes 1" X 4" wet, spaced 3". Brew time 4 hours with
>very good DW C0 = .22 uS.
>
>The results are as follows: conductance (Cf) = 7 us at end of run.  C12hrs
= 4
>uS , the PPM is 4.2, and the T.E. is medium.
>
>There was a T.E. showing after 45 minutes.
>
>Just for Information.
>
>"Ole Bob"
>
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Re: CS>new and need info!

2000-09-28 Thread Del Crow
Hi, Joe (in Ireland) this is Del,(in British Columbia, Canada) practically
half -way around the globe... sure, have strips cut.  My strips were rolled
out of one ounce ingots, then trimmed to  one-half inch by six and one-half
inches. Surface area (thin wire vs wide strips) might have a fairly large
effect one concentration-to-time ratio:  I noticed that one of the
commercially sold colloid-makers uses much the same configuration as I
do...about 6 inches submerged in a largejar, about two to two-and-a-half
inches apart; with 10,000volts AC they suggest it produces a product of
20ppm in two hoursI've looked for the Website again, but can't seem to
find it... but there is lots of info out there.One would only use
'sterling'silver in an emergency situation.At 04:12 PM 28/09/00 GMT, you
wrote:
>
>
>Hi All, my names Joe I'm Irish (in Ireland) just joined the list and am 
>already in need of your advice. I cannot get .999 silver wire.
>My local store only has .925 (sterling silver)wire or .999 sheets.
>Can I use a sheet instead and ask them to cut me strips and use them as 
>wire?
>They say the smallest would be 3mm. would these do?
>Thanks a lot!
>Joe
>
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CS>Silver Wire

2000-09-28 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Ya'all;

"Ole Bob" has some #14 --.999 pure silver wire.

The last wire I bought was $3.20 per foot plus about 55 cents postage.

System Tech Engineering
Robert L. Berger
12303 E.89th St.
Kansas City, MO 64138-5150

"Ole Bob"


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Re: CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread Magus
hehehe...

Like garlic, it keeps werewolves and vampires at bay:)

Good stuff.

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> When I want to flog myself, I take a piece of horseradish root from the market
> or from the backyard, and throw it in the Vitamix with a good splash of 
> vinegar.
> I've learned to be careful when it's that fresh. Talk about snapping to
> attention, living in the present, focus, etc..




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Re: CS>Cancer cure?? -- Have the patient report!!

2000-09-28 Thread Gaston
Hi Douglas,

I completely agree with you, with your suggestions about the patient to
write his own report,  and this list to contain a section covering  this
subject.

Gaston

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas Haack" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 6:26 PM
Subject: CS>Cancer cure?? -- Have the patient report!!


> Bob and list,
>
> It's of much less value when you -- as supplier of Zappers etc -- report a
> "cure". Have the patient write the report -- in their own words / hand--
> even scan it in or what ever. Yes, encourage these individuals to make
> their own report.
>
> This list could have a testimonial section.
>
> In Silvation, Douglas Haack
>
>
>
> Bob Squires wrote:
>
> > Dear list members;
> >
> > Wonderful news. Last evening a man called me to tell me that
> > his wife is getting better is gaining weight and feels wonderful . Six
> > months ago he called me to tell me that his wife had been diagnosed with
> > Pancratic cancer ,had gone through an extended period of chemotherapy
> > and then had been told there was no hope and that she had two to four
> > months to live. They bought  a Zapper and CS machine from me. They use
> > the machines together and they do the job . What a wonderful thing
> > Best wishesBob
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Re: CS>missing a point

2000-09-28 Thread Duncan Crow
I agree completely - when healthy the CS should help keep you that way.  and
about another post- I'd freely intermix the Beck and Clark prodedures, yes!
And include any other appropriate treatment becaust electromedical
treatments will not interfere with each other OR ineffective conventional
methods (usual precautions apply).


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: CS>missing a point


| Good argument for taking maintenance doses even when you're healthy!
| Chuck
| If you don't make the rules, you don't have to keep them. If you do make
the
| rules, you won't anyway.
|
| On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:36:36 -0700, "planner10" 
wrote:
|
| >Dear Duncan,
| >I happen to be healthy currently but have been through my share of
| >life-threatening experiences.I do not know if myself or any of my family
was
| >exposed to SV40. How does one find out? I just figured that since I take
a
| >dose or two of CS a day eventually all the bad stuff will be
| >killed.(If there is anything there to begin with.)
| >If CS takes care of 650 + viruses and bacteria, why not SV40.



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Re: CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
When I want to flog myself, I take a piece of horseradish root from the market
or from the backyard, and throw it in the Vitamix with a good splash of vinegar.
I've learned to be careful when it's that fresh. Talk about snapping to
attention, living in the present, focus, etc..
Chuck
Quantum physics predicts the past with 80% accuracy !

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:00:37 -0400, Magus  wrote:

>Have you tried it?


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Re: CS>new and need info!

2000-09-28 Thread Marsha Hallett

> If you want to wait for mail delivery I bet Marsha will see this and offer
to
> help at cost on silver wire.
Chuck

I did, but I have no more wire. I`ll just bet my STBX won`t help me get any
more, either. (He won`t even send me the rent money, so I had to borrow from
my 81 year old mom... grrr.)
Sorry...
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Re: CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread Magus
Have you tried it?

It beats the hell out of cortisone shots up into the sini or drugs that burn
and strip the mucus tissues.

The wasabi horseradish of the Japanese works well and is less rough on the
eyes. If I get this condition (less and less now that I am on the mucxusless
diet), I smear a slab of grated horseradish root onto a crisp or some
lettuce and enjoy.

BTW, this is the same cure for conjuctivitis.

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:09:35 -0400, Magus  wrote:
>
> >For sinus congestion:
> >
> >Go on the mucusless diet.
> >
> >Chop some onions; grate some horseradish. Inhale these and eat some.
> After you stop choking, and get up off the floor...
> Good Lord Magus, this needs warning labels!!
> Chuck
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Re: CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread Magus
Same diet, originally from Ehler.

Frances Mehner wrote:

> I would agree to delete dairy and I would add to eat as oil free a diet
> as possible.  Oils in any form phlegm me up.  There is a old book,
> "Mucousless Diet Healing System" that I read years ago that I thought
> had a lot of good ideas.  Other may agree or disagree. Frances


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Re: CS>Re:Zappers too

2000-09-28 Thread d.linen


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 Chuck
> Purranoia: the fear your cats are up to something !

Furrinstance: the telltale toilet paper up and down the hall !

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Re: CS>new and need info!

2000-09-28 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Joe,

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:12:48 GMT, "Seosamh *" 
wrote:

>Hi All, my names Joe I'm Irish (in Ireland) just joined the list and am 
>already in need of your advice. I cannot get .999 silver wire.
>My local store only has .925 (sterling silver)wire or .999 sheets.
>Can I use a sheet instead and ask them to cut me strips and use them as 
>wire?
>They say the smallest would be 3mm. would these do?

Sheets cut into strips or bars are fine -- better, IMO, than wire.
Just make sure they're .999 fine silver.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn  (CDP, KB0ZDF)


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Re: CS>Re:Zappers too

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:22:06 GMT, dtmil...@midiowa.net (Dean T. Miller) wrote:

>>(for example: those on CS for a couple of months should check their tongues. I
>>noticed that a coating had disappeared.)
>
>From what I've heard, not having that coating is a good thing (isn't
>it?).

Indeed!!!
Chuck
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Re: CS>new and need info!

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
In a pinch, Joe,
Some silver coins are .999. I believe the canadian dollar is bullion. The point
is, these and bullion bars are available at coin shops which are everywhere.
Just ask about purity. You don't want circulation silver coins which are only
about 90% pure.
Silver is mallable and easily cut and pounded into any desired shape.

If you want to wait for mail delivery I bet Marsha will see this and offer to
help at cost on silver wire.
Chuck
Pure drivel tends to drive away ordinary drivel!


On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:12:48 GMT, "Seosamh *"  wrote:

>
>
>Hi All, my names Joe I'm Irish (in Ireland) just joined the list and am 
>already in need of your advice. I cannot get .999 silver wire.
>My local store only has .925 (sterling silver)wire or .999 sheets.
>Can I use a sheet instead and ask them to cut me strips and use them as 
>wire?
>They say the smallest would be 3mm. would these do?
>Thanks a lot!
>Joe
>
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Re: CS>Re:Zappers too

2000-09-28 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 03:57:43 -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

>Uhhh, initial instructions that I glean from Beck lectures and such, indicate 2
>hour sessions daily for 2 months.

Sounds good to me.  Let's see ... 4 Hz for 2 hours = 28,800 pulses --
which is about 2.88 minutes of pulses from Clark's Zapper.   :)

>I do have some chronic conditions that most of us have and I do check for
>changes whenever I try something new.
>(for example: those on CS for a couple of months should check their tongues. I
>noticed that a coating had disappeared.)

>From what I've heard, not having that coating is a good thing (isn't
it?).


-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn  (CDP, KB0ZDF)


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Re: CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:09:35 -0400, Magus  wrote:

>For sinus congestion:
>
>Go on the mucusless diet.
>
>Chop some onions; grate some horseradish. Inhale these and eat some.
After you stop choking, and get up off the floor...
Good Lord Magus, this needs warning labels!!
Chuck
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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
Why do I have this STRONG feeling that I should capitulate?
Every time I get involved with weird women I definitely lose.
OK, You win...
Chuck
-_->

Q: How many women with PMS does it take to screw in a
light bulb?

A: One. ONE!! And do you know WHY it only takes ONE? Because no one 
else in
this house knows HOW to change a light bulb. They don't even know the 
bulb
is BURNED OUT. They would sit in this house in the dark for THREE DAYS
before they figured it OUT. And once they figured it out they
wouldn't be able to find the light bulbs despite the fact that 
they've been
in the SAME CUPBOARD for the past SEVENTEEN YEARS. But if they did, 
by some
miracle, actually find the light bulbs, TWO DAYS LATER the chair that 
they
dragged from two rooms over to stand on to change the
STUPID light bulb would STILL BE IN THE SAME SPOT!! AND UNDERNEATH IT 
WOULD
BE THE CRUMPLED WRAPPER THE STUPID @*!#$% LIGHT BULBS CAME IN! WHY?! 
BECAUSE
NO ONE IN THIS HOUSE EVER CARRIES OUT THE GARBAGE!! IT'S A WONDER WE 
HAVEN'T
ALL SUFFOCATED FROM THE PILES OF GARBAGE THAT ARE
12 FEET DEEP THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE. THE HOUSE!! IT WOULD TAKE 
AN ARMY
TO CLEAN THIS...
I'm sorry...what did you ask me?

Blessings,

Kandy
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On 28 Sep 2000 10:30:40 GMT, mfin...@lynchburg.net wrote:

>So Chuck,
>
>You think I can't out weird you?  Not that I was trying mind you, but now
>that you have tossed down a gautlet.  How weird would it take to outweird
>you.I warn you...I am world class  weird.  Or perhaps better said  "out
>of this world-class" weird.
>
>Barb


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CS>Re: HVAC CS

2000-09-28 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Del;

I had not heard of anyone making CS as you described so I setup to make some.
I use 12,000 VAC, electrodes 1" X 4" wet, spaced 3". Brew time 4 hours with
very good DW C0 = .22 uS.

The results are as follows: conductance (Cf) = 7 us at end of run.  C12hrs = 4
uS , the PPM is 4.2, and the T.E. is medium.

There was a T.E. showing after 45 minutes.

Just for Information.

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Re: CS>Golden toe nails

2000-09-28 Thread Brickeyk
Thanks Barb for the info.  I sprayed my Italian Plums with the dark Cs also.  
The plums looked great, very little brown rot, when opened they still had a 
fly larva crawling inside, or some kind of little bug.  The dark Cs helped 
the brown rot but did nothing for the parasites.
Brickey


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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
OH YEAH??
THWPP!!! (Opus the penguin).

Chuck

I support everyone's right to be an idiot. I may need it myself someday.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:08:40 +, "M. G. Devour"  wrote:

>Uh Oh! Don't get trapped into responding to Chuck's tag lines! 
>Anything after his signature is one of his wonderful rotating random 
>wisecracks! Don't take'em as a personal challenge... PLEASE!
>
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Re: CS>zappers

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
It opened for me.
Sometimes it's TOD (time of day, traffic load et al).
Sometimes it's browser. I keep 4 on my machine, and if one has difficulty, I'll
try another. IE usually works, then I go to Opera. Inegma is cute and very
small. I seldom use Netscape anymore as it tends to call home and I don't care
for spyware.
Chuck
I really hate this damned machine,
 I wish that they would sell it.
  It never does quite what I want,
 but only what I tell it.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:13:53 -0400, "KIM BROWN"  wrote:

>Ivan and All,
>
>I sure wish I could open this site!  Can the owner of this site email me
>privately?  I was on this list last year and I trust Ivan's opinion (among
>others).
>
>Hi Mike!  Nice to see Chuck is still here!  LOL
>
>Best,
>Kim
>
>> Hi Kim,
>>
>> The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here.
>> http://www.annexmfg.com/
>>


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Re: CS>new and need info!

2000-09-28 Thread Wwench9
Joe - by the way...I hope these .999 sheets are pure silver...
DON'T USE STERLING!!!

Good health to you!

Jules


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Re: CS>new and need info!

2000-09-28 Thread Wwench9
Hiya Joe - welcome aboard!!

You can definitely use the sheets - just cut them up.  I personally use .999 
silver
bezel which is about 1-2cm in width - I think its easier to handle and there 
is the question of the larger surface areawhich the experts can debate 
for you.

Hope this helps,

Jules


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Re: CS>new and need info!

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Dear Joe, 

I am sure some of the engineers on this list will confirm this, but when I
first got into making colloidal silver what I read said NEVER use "sterling
silver"  only use the .999 pure stuff.  The other can be toxic as I
understand it.You can get the pure wires from SOTA INstruments  at I
think http://www.sota.com
 I think they will ship internationally.  They are somewhere in Canada.  SOme
others on this list may also sell the wires.  But while you are waiting do
not risk your health with sterling silver.  I just happen to be online now. 
I am not an engineer, but I am sure there are dozens on this list who can
help you.

Barb
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CS>new and need info!

2000-09-28 Thread Seosamh *



Hi All, my names Joe I'm Irish (in Ireland) just joined the list and am 
already in need of your advice. I cannot get .999 silver wire.

My local store only has .925 (sterling silver)wire or .999 sheets.
Can I use a sheet instead and ask them to cut me strips and use them as 
wire?

They say the smallest would be 3mm. would these do?
Thanks a lot!
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Re: CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread Frances Mehner
I would agree to delete dairy and I would add to eat as oil free a diet
as possible.  Oils in any form phlegm me up.  There is a old book,
"Mucousless Diet Healing System" that I read years ago that I thought
had a lot of good ideas.  Other may agree or disagree. Frances

tosca...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> What foods are of concern in this diet? I would imagine dairy but what else?
> 
> ma...@chaldea.com wrote:
> > For sinus congestion:
> 
> Go on the mucusless diet.
> 
> Chop some onions; grate some horseradish. Inhale these and eat some.
> 
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Re: CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread toscano2
What foods are of concern in this diet? I would imagine dairy but what else?

ma...@chaldea.com wrote:
> For sinus congestion:

Go on the mucusless diet.

Chop some onions; grate some horseradish. Inhale these and eat some.


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Re: CS>zappers

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson
Kim,
maybe you need to copy and paste the URL into your browser.
It opens for me.

http://www.annexmfg.com/

Ivan.


- Original Message -
From: "KIM BROWN" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2000 01:13
Subject: Re: CS>zappers


> Ivan and All,
>
> I sure wish I could open this site!  Can the owner of this site email
me
> privately?  I was on this list last year and I trust Ivan's opinion
(among
> others).
>
> Hi Mike!  Nice to see Chuck is still here!  LOL
>
> Best,
> Kim



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Re: CS>zappers

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson
Nancy,

The most sensitive component (555 timer) is good to 15V, so it should be
ok to just hook it up.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: "Nancy Steele" 
To: "Ivan Anderson" ; 
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2000 00:26
Subject: RE: CS>zappers


> Ivan
> If I wanted to run a Clark zapper on 12 volt would I have to do
something
> special so as not to burn anything up or ruin it or the effect in some
way,
> or just hook it up straight into 12 volt?
> Thanks
> Nancy



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Re: CS>zappers

2000-09-28 Thread KIM BROWN
Ivan and All,

I sure wish I could open this site!  Can the owner of this site email me
privately?  I was on this list last year and I trust Ivan's opinion (among
others).

Hi Mike!  Nice to see Chuck is still here!  LOL

Best,
Kim

> Hi Kim,
>
> The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here.
> http://www.annexmfg.com/
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RE: CS>zappers

2000-09-28 Thread Nancy Steele
Ivan
If I wanted to run a Clark zapper on 12 volt would I have to do something
special so as not to burn anything up or ruin it or the effect in some way,
or just hook it up straight into 12 volt?
Thanks
Nancy

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From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>zappers


Hi Kim,

The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here.
http://www.annexmfg.com/

These are very professional units, operating at about 13V and
incorporate the 'BioWave' technology which keeps the square wave square
when connected to the body. I am using this in my own zappers with the
owners permission

This site is owned by one of the list members who may make himself known
or not.

For those with a technical ability, the circuit posted by Bill Biagioli
is very good, if a bit difficult to implement.

If one wanted to improve the basic Clarke zapper, then using a 12V
supply is the way to go...13.5V if you can, may need to ensure the 555
timer is not the CMOS type.
I sent 15V through mine...boy was that a wake up call.

Ivan.




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CS>sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread Magus
For sinus congestion:

Go on the mucusless diet.

Chop some onions; grate some horseradish. Inhale these and eat some.


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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Dear Ken,

You are right to a point about trying to live quietly.  Unfortunately they
are working on ways to not let us do that.   Created wars,  bioweapons
experiments, false oil shorteges with a bad winter looming.  Mandated
vaccines.  Taxation into  poverty.  Thingsl like that.  They won't let us
live in peace.  SO now what?

barb
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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Der Mike,

But I WANT to have fun with Chuck.  He seems really neat.  I think toying
with him for a few days would be delightfully amusing.  Girls just wanta
have fuuunnn.

---Barb
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Re: Cs and oil was Golden toe nails

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Dear Ivan,

One puts the CS on first, and then smears the oil over it.  Even seals it in.

Barb
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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread Ode Coyote

  Anarchy definitely works with mature intelligent people and I've seen
some groups of 15/20,000 people doing it for weeks in spite of the included
average people.   But the mature and intelligent were doing most of the work.
 Unfortunatly, most of this planets occupants are not so mature or
intelligent and a goodly number stopped growing at the terrible 2s
[crybabies and tyrants...same thing]...many of whom became politicians who
truely represent the majority who would manipulate others in the same
manner if given the chance.
 The tyrants know that the sheeple are the same as they are and gaurd
against giving them that chance.
 Those who would lead by force [vs example], do lead...and that's why the
world is as it is.
 The only choice left to the intelligent and mature is to not follow or
lead by force, but live as example. [very quietly]
 Ken

At 04:11 AM 9/28/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Yes,
>I was referring to the 3rd definition as below.
>BTW, can one be a strict anarchist? Seems a oxymoron (military intellegence).
>   Chuck
>Don't try to out-weird me--I get stranger things than you free with my
breakfast
>cereal!
>
>an·ar·chism (an'?r-kiz'?m)
>n.
>1 The theory or doctrine that all forms of government are oppressive and
>undesirable and should be abolished.
>
>2 Active resistance and terrorism against the state, as used by some
anarchists.
>
>3 Rejection of all forms of coercive control and authority: “He was
inclined to
>anarchism; he hated system and organization and uniformity” (Bertrand
Russell).
>
>
>On 28 Sep 2000 7:17:21 GMT, mfin...@lynchburg.net wrote:
>
>>Dear Chuck,
>>
>>Why yes, in the strictest definition of the word  I am an anarchist. 
>>LIbertarinaism is the closest I can come to my real philosophies, but in
>>the end I would be best defined as a person in favor of cooperative
>>anarchy.  I am against all govenment whatsoever.I believe that mature
>>intelligent people can accomplish any goal via intent and cooperation among
>>one another.  Governments are just self-serving restrictive bodies.   In my
>>definition,  anarchy is not chaos which is how most people define it, but
>>structured  freedom in how I define it.
>>
>>Barb
>>Michael Lee Finney
>>   michael.fin...@acm.org
>>   michael.fin...@computer.org
>
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Re: CS>THE UGLY YELLOW

2000-09-28 Thread Ode Coyote
  I've been soaking my socks dripping in CS for over a year to cure toenail
fungus and my nails have not turned yellow.  In fact, the yellowish
portions of the fungus nails are now white and healthy.
 Was he using yellow CS?  That color will deposit on glass...maybe toenails
too.
 Hydrogen peroxide removes the color from glass almost instantly.
 Ken


At 06:38 PM 9/27/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Common guys,
>Lets play this story back.  The guy's feet and heels are cracking.  Skin is
>flaking.  The toe nails are a normal color at the time.  Foot soak in CS
>turns the nails yellow.  The nails, like bones have their own components of
>protien.
>
>You coulld marinate crab claws in barely grass pure' and probably turn them
>green. Strong chlorox turns nylon yellow.  Tetracycline turns kids teeth
>black or gray. Maybe the fellow had shower water residue from earlier and
>flouride and orther trace minerals in the water that interacted and turned
>the toenails  yellow.
>
>If I were a guy, I'd let them grow back (6 months white) and only take
>cotton swabs of CS to the cracks in skin.  I would take a good B-complex 3 x
>a day.  Review my diet.   Soak feet in Epson salts for minerals and look
>into Dermatology on the Internet to find somethiing.  You coulld have a
>skin fungus and a Croft Zapper worn in your sock would help if not cure any
>germ problems.  It still might be a way your processing oils.  I'd get some
>fresh Alo Vera plant  or maybe iodine (Hilda Clark says it's good on many
>germs).  For good luck I'de make sure there was some cold pressesed salmoon
>oil around too.  Good luck. Silvia
>.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: john rigby 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:07 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Golden Toenails
>
>
>>Hi Marlene,
>>I don't wish to sound alarmist, but this is a RBN ( real bad
>>news) basic health thing. The human body under severe threat puts
>>out many warnings beginning with stomach discomfort and ending
>>with Cancer.
>>Your DH is very severely malnourished.
>>Here is a typical list of increasing severity that is pretty
>>universal for Caucasians:
>>
>>Eyes lose shine
>>Hair straightens, dries.
>>Lassitude begins
>>Eyes hurt, water, vision lessens.
>>Change of body odours - particularly feet. bad news.
>>Athletes foot or Herpes (Cold Sores) develops ... getting
>>serious!
>>Heels crack - splits develop seriously and bleed ..
>>very serious!
>>
>>There are many well-documented steps on the way "out", this is
>>just the early stages. Later comes things like Varicose veins,
>>Angina, Allergies, Diabetes, Ulcers, Heart "Attacks", Cancer (
>>last chance warning... :-)  )
>>
>>But at this point, ("Foot Death")  probably a short fast, 5-7
>>days, will do wonders and a strictly slow start re-eating regime
>>with never again all the things you like! :-)
>>No Fast Foods - at all ever!
>>No microwaved anything.
>>No sugar
>>No booze
>>No ordinary Salt - EVER . Get Macrobiotic or natural sea salt (
>>always grey in colour - never eat by putting on things put it in
>>cooking)
>>No meat for at least a year. ( By then you won't want to go back
>>anyway)
>>Lots of white cheese but only home-made.
>>
>>Otherwise, whatever you do, do not go near anyone/anything with
>>infectious potential. This level of symptom is a  warning of a
>>seriously depleted so-called "immune" system.
>>IMPORTANT NOTE:!!
>> THIS IS ALL IN MY HUMBLE OPINION!! Nothing contained herein
>>should be construed as medical advice and should be subjected to
>>strict further investigation before taking any action and all of
>>the foregoing is merely anecdotal and should be considered as
>>Computer Software with all of the disclaimers pertinent and
>>normal to its performance.
>>
>>Cheers?,
>>
>>John.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: 
>>To: 
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 10:45 PM
>>Subject: CS>Golden Toenails
>>
>>
>>> Another question:  My dh has been having sooo much trouble for
>>the past year
>>> with cracking feet to the point where they bleed and it is even
>>hard for him
>>> to walk!  I thought maybe soaking them in CS might help him so
>>I made him a
>>> big batch to put in a foot soaking tub that he could keep
>>reusing.  Well, the
>>> first time he used it he soaked his feet for probably 15
>>minutes or so and
>>> his toenails all turned this ugly yellow color!  Consequently,
>>he has not
>>> used it again!  Anyone know about this?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Marlene
>>> <")))><
>>>
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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread M. G. Devour
Uh Oh! Don't get trapped into responding to Chuck's tag lines! 
Anything after his signature is one of his wonderful rotating random 
wisecracks! Don't take'em as a personal challenge... PLEASE!

Mike D.

> So Chuck,
> 
> You think I can't out weird you?  Not that I was trying mind you,
> but now that you have tossed down a gautlet.  How weird would it
> take to outweird you.I warn you...I am world class  weird.  Or
> perhaps better said  "out of this world-class" weird.
> 
> Barb

chuck's tag line robot wrote:
> Don't try to out-weird me--I get stranger things than you free
> with my breakfast cereal! 

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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
So Chuck,

You think I can't out weird you?  Not that I was trying mind you, but now
that you have tossed down a gautlet.  How weird would it take to outweird
you.I warn you...I am world class  weird.  Or perhaps better said  "out
of this world-class" weird.

Barb
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Re: CS>Re: sinus congestion

2000-09-28 Thread Ode Coyote
  Sit upside down on the couch [feet over the back and head dangling down
and drip some CS into the nose.  It'll flood the sinuses all the way to the
tear ducts and make you cry.  Stay that way for a few minutes...or as long
as you can stand it.
 Go blow your nose.
 Ken


At 11:16 AM 9/27/00 EDT, you wrote:
>Help!  Any suggestions for curing sinus congestion and the attendant 
>postnasal drip would be appreciated. 
>
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Cs and oil was Golden toe nails

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson
Have you actually tried mixing cs with oil? :-)

How did it go?

Might need a little water soluble lecithin or somesuch.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2000 19:17
Subject: Re: CS>Golden toe nails


> Dear Brickey,
>
> Have you tried making and adding garlic oil mixed with CS to your
feet. ,
> Easy enough to do.  JUst chop up galic cloves into olive oil.  Let
them set
> for a few ours and you have galic oil. Or you can rub galic bulbs on
> straight. most fungi do not like garlic.  Also add corn starch to your
> socks. It is a major drying agent and most fungi can't survive the
dryness.
>
> Barb
> Michael Lee Finney
>michael.fin...@acm.org
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Re: CS --- no pain --- hence no swelling?

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson

- Original Message -
From: "spiroflx" 

> September 26, 2000
> To Fred, Ivan and others interested in this topic:
> A neighbor of mine, who is an MD, explained to me that fluids
containing
> positive electrons (cations) --- such as CS --- when applied
externally to
> burns and wounds will stop pain messages from reaching the brain by
> inhibiting the flow of electrons (negative) across pain junctures in
the
> body. As a consequence of this interruption of communication of "the
pain
> message" would this not also stop consequential swelling from taking
> place? --- Spiroflex

Hi Spiroflex,

Your neighbour may well be correct in that CS does seem to attenuate
pain, but the mechanism by which this occurs is probably different to
the one he mentioned.

Electrons do not provide the 'current' in organic wires (nerves) rather
it is ions that flow in nerves, primarily potassium and sodium with
calcium providing a switch in many cases. Fast pain, which is localised
in the skin tissue is provided by the sensor end of a nerve, the
dendrite (little tree) which has its equivalent in CS generation as the
treeing of the cathode. These dendrites have gated channels which are
influenced by chemicals heat and cold, when the gates open ions are able
to flow through which changes the electrical potential across the gated
membrane. When the change in potential reaches a threshold an ionic
pulse is sent down the nerve which eventually ends in the firing of a
synapse in the sensory area in the brain.

Slow pain works in much the same manner, but is influenced by chemicals
which may be found at the site of injury and results in the ache or
strong diffuse pain which may linger even when the cause is removed.

The pain of a wound may be stopped by restoring the electrical
conductivity of the wounded or diseased area, which is measurably
disrupted at these sites. This is the way that products like Silverlon
reduce pain so dramatically, by providing a conductive sleave over the
injured area allowing the body's electrical field to normalise (and no
doubt normalising the gated membrane potential). It is likely that
zappers have a similar effect.

Inflammation is not the result of pain impulses but rather the release
of chemicals from damaged tissue or toxins from pathogens, and is a
necessary part of damage control and tissue repair. These same processes
can also cause pain either chemically or nerve damage or pressure.

There is of course a little more to this process, but I hope this
nutshell gives you the basics.

Regards
Ivan.


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Re: CS>getting started

2000-09-28 Thread Nick Grant
Hi Ivan

Can you tell me how much it would cost me for your machine (generator),
distilled water, or the other, and anything else I need.

I will get my husband to read the info up on how to make it etc, he is more
the mathematician than I.  Is there some instructions that go with the
generator?

I seem to be feeling this is all very difficult.  I have three small
children, not alot of time, and even less energy.  I need it SIMPLE as
possible.  I don't understand half of what is talked about on the list with
regards to specifics.

Is there somewhere in the archives that is a good place to start.  The
problem with the archives I found was, you had to know what you were looking
for in the first place!

I live in Christchurch by the way, for your posting info.

Thanks Ivan

Tracy.
- Original Message -
From: Ivan Anderson 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2000 18:10
Subject: Re: CS>getting started


>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nick Grant" 
>
> > Hi Ivan
> >
> > Firstly, I am not your competition.  I only want to make the stuff to
> sell
> > to friends and family, and word of mouth etc.  I would really
> appreciate
> > your help and I don't know much about making it and what I need to
> start and
> > I have heard you sell generators.  True?  How do I get de-ionized or
> > distilled water.  My friend makes it by boiling her water and making
> it
> > while the water is warm.  Is our water not pure enough to do this?
>
> Hi Tracy,
>
> I'm not realy worried about competition, after all I make the best
> Colloidal Silver in the world at the most reasonable prices...
>
> I was more worried about someone making for sale a medicine which they
> knew little about!
>
> Distilled water can be had from your local chemist.. you may need to
> order it in, or I can sell you Purified Water BP which I purchase in
> bulk from a bio-lab supplier.
>
> You cannot make stable CS in anything but distilled or in some cases RO
> water.
>
> > Secondly, where abouts do you live in New Zealand.  My friend brought
> her
> > machine of some guy down South, wondering if it's you.
>
> I live in Auckland, so I guess it wasn't me. Funny thing is that I sell
> most of my generators overseas, I guess with the dollar at US$0.42 this
> makes sense.
>
> I can sell you a generator no problem, either the little current limited
> job or something to your specs, let me know.
>
> > Look forward to your advice and help getting started.
>
> You need to do some self study to understand the process and how to
> measure it, I will help when I can, can't be fairer than that Tracy.
>
> Regards - Ivan.
>
>
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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
Yes,
I was referring to the 3rd definition as below.
BTW, can one be a strict anarchist? Seems a oxymoron (military intellegence).
Chuck
Don't try to out-weird me--I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast
cereal!

an·ar·chism (an'?r-kiz'?m)
n.
1 The theory or doctrine that all forms of government are oppressive and
undesirable and should be abolished.

2 Active resistance and terrorism against the state, as used by some anarchists.

3 Rejection of all forms of coercive control and authority: “He was inclined to
anarchism; he hated system and organization and uniformity” (Bertrand Russell).


On 28 Sep 2000 7:17:21 GMT, mfin...@lynchburg.net wrote:

>Dear Chuck,
>
>Why yes, in the strictest definition of the word  I am an anarchist. 
>LIbertarinaism is the closest I can come to my real philosophies, but in
>the end I would be best defined as a person in favor of cooperative
>anarchy.  I am against all govenment whatsoever.I believe that mature
>intelligent people can accomplish any goal via intent and cooperation among
>one another.  Governments are just self-serving restrictive bodies.   In my
>definition,  anarchy is not chaos which is how most people define it, but
>structured  freedom in how I define it.
>
>Barb
>Michael Lee Finney
>   michael.fin...@acm.org
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Re: CS>New and Need Help!!

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson
Since I stopped using my mw oven I have wondered what to do with it!
Glad this made the list!

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: "Duncan Crow" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2000 05:52
Subject: Re: CS>New and Need Help!!


> Hi; this is a private reply to your post...
>
> I've been making CS for more than 2 years, and tried low and
high-voltage CS
> and I like the high-voltage more.  I'm using VERY good tap water.  Our
water
> won awards as the best Canada has. Most folks use distilled. I'm
trying that
> next week.
>
> A real good, cheap way to get a high-voltage CS maker is to recycle a
> microwave oven. The votage supplied to the magnetron is 4000 volts DC.
Once
> the electrodes are spliced in and the magnetron removed, the unit is
safe
> because you still use the door locks, etc...to stop anyone from
touching hot
> electrodes. And you still get to use the timer, too.
>
> Make sure the electrodes are held about 2" spaced apart by say,
cut-out
> plastic lids.
>
> My old microwave is  a small one, holding a 1.8 liter jar nicely.
Makes a
> jar in 1min 20secs from cool undistilled water.
>
> (take precautions- you will be working with a high-voltage capacitor
> connection)
> ciao
> Duncan



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Re: CS Turned Charcoal

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson
How long is long term? 2yrs 1mth and counting, and still no fall out or
change in any way.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2000 03:11
Subject: Re: CS Turned Charcoal


> Most spray bottles are made from a plastic that allows CO2 to diffuse
through
> rather easily.  CO2 will combine with water and produce carbonic acid,
and acid
> will cause CS to aggregate and settle out over the long term.
>
> Marshall



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Re: CS>First Batch kinda clear

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson

- Original Message -
From: "Tim Eastman" 


> Well I just ran my first batch. LV
>
> Used a radioshack "wall wart" 13.5/30v adapter and 16oz of DW. About 4
wet
> inches of silver wire 14GA 2" apart.
>
> I ran 15 minutes at 30v and 30 minutes at 13.5v (per Dean's rec.)
>
> It just finished like 5 minutes ago and it seems quite clear - very
clear.
> One of the rods is quite a bit darker than the other. Other than that
I
> really don't know if I have CS or not. Will this "color" amber out
once it
> disperses through the DW? I removed the rods right away - I figured if
there
> was no more current might as well dismantle the wires.

It may get some colour in 24 - 48 hrs. If you leave the rods in the
water over night it is possilbe that the concentration will rise by a
few ppm. You can also get an idea of the progress of silver electrode
dissolution by noting the change in voltage and current. The resistance
of the water will decrease as silver ions enter it and can be calculated
by dividing the voltage by the current and multiplying the answer by
1000 if the current was measured in miliamps.

> Dean guessed at about 8PPM. What might the micron size be if I am not
seeing
> "color" but only darker silver wire?

Particle size will be around the 1nm (0.001 microns) mark or less.

> Thanks from the newbie.
>
> Tim and Theresa Eastman

Ivan.


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Re: CS>Re:Zappers too

2000-09-28 Thread CKing001
Uhhh, initial instructions that I glean from Beck lectures and such, indicate 2
hour sessions daily for 2 months.

Now, I just got the device (Sota) about a week ago, so I'm not the best source
for info. There's nothing terribly wrong with me either except for terminal
sense of humor. (I know it's gonna get me killed).
 
I do have some chronic conditions that most of us have and I do check for
changes whenever I try something new.
(for example: those on CS for a couple of months should check their tongues. I
noticed that a coating had disappeared.)

I was wondering if anyone on the list had something dramatic.
Your relief of sinus conditions certainly qualifies.
Chuck
Dyslexics have more fnu !

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 04:31:43 GMT, dtmil...@midiowa.net (Dean T. Miller) wrote:

>
>Okay.  How long are you supposed to use Beck's machine?  Perhaps I've
>been misinformed about that, too.


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Re: CS>THE UGLY YELLOW

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson


>
> If I were a guy, I'd let them grow back (6 months white) and only take
> cotton swabs of CS to the cracks in skin> .

A bit of sandpaper would sort this out.


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Re: CS>zappers

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan Anderson

Hi Kim,

The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here.
http://www.annexmfg.com/

These are very professional units, operating at about 13V and
incorporate the 'BioWave' technology which keeps the square wave square
when connected to the body. I am using this in my own zappers with the
owners permission

This site is owned by one of the list members who may make himself known
or not.

For those with a technical ability, the circuit posted by Bill Biagioli
is very good, if a bit difficult to implement.

If one wanted to improve the basic Clarke zapper, then using a 12V
supply is the way to go...13.5V if you can, may need to ensure the 555
timer is not the CMOS type.
I sent 15V through mine...boy was that a wake up call.

Ivan.




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Re: CS Why I Am into healing an life-extension so no more Roses die

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
The below to me beings the tears of frustration to my eyes that we do not
make life-extension a national priority so that no more Roses die.._Barb


GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL

The first day of school our professor introduced himself and challenged us
to get to know someone we didn't already know. I stood up to look around
when a gentle hand touched my shoulder. I turned around to find a wrinkled,
little old lady beaming up at me with a smile that lit up her entire being.

She said, "Hi handsome. My name is Rose. I'm eighty-seven years old. Can I
give you a hug?" I laughed and enthusiastically responded, "Of course you
may!" and she gave me a giant squeeze. "Why are you in college at such a
young, innocent age?" I asked.

She jokingly replied, "I'm here to meet a rich husband, get married, have a
couple of children, and then retire and travel."

"No seriously," I asked. I was curious what may have motivated her to be
taking on this challenge at her age. "I always dreamed of having a college
education and now I'm getting one!" she told me. After class we walked to
the student union building and shared a chocolate milkshake. We became
instant friends. Every day for the next three months we would leave class
together and talk nonstop. I was always mesmerized listening to this "time
machine" as she shared her wisdom and experience with me.

Over the course of the year, Rose became a campus icon and she easily
made friends wherever she went. She loved to dress up and she reveled in
  the attention bestowed upon her from the other students. She was living 
it up.

At the end of the semester we invited Rose to speak at our football banquet.

I'll never forget what she taught us. She was introduced and stepped up to
the podium. As she began to deliver her prepared speech, she dropped her
three by five cards on the floor. Frustrated and a little embarrassed she
leaned into the microphone and simply said "I'm sorry I'm so jittery. I gave
up beer for Lent and this whiskey is killing me! I'll never get my speech
back in order so let me just tell you what I know."

As we laughed she cleared her throat and began:

"We do not stop playing because we are old; we grow old because we stop
playing. There are only four secrets to staying young, being happy, and
achieving success. "You have to laugh and find humor every day. "You've got
to have a dream. When you lose your dreams, you die. We have so many
people walking around who are dead and don't even know it!"

"There is a huge difference between growing older and growing up. If you
are nineteen years old and lie in bed for one full year and don't do one
productive thing, you will turn twenty years old. If I am eighty-seven
years old and stay in bed for a year and never do anything I will turn
eighty-eight. Anybody can grow older. That doesn't take any talent or
ability. The idea is to grow up by always finding the opportunity in
change."

"Have no regrets. The elderly usually don't have regrets for what we did,
but rather for things we did not do. The only people who fear death are those
with regrets."

She concluded her speech by courageously singing "The Rose." She challenged
each of us to study the lyrics and live them out in our daily lives.
At the years end Rose finished the college degree she had begun all those
years ago. One week after graduation Rose died peacefully in her sleep. Over
two thousand college students attended her funeral in tribute to the
wonderful woman who taught by example that it's never too late to be all
you can possibly be.

If you read this, please send this peaceful word of advice to your friends
and family, they'll really enjoy it! We send these words in loving memory
of ROSE.

Remember, GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY, GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL!

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Re: CS>Golden toe nails

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Dear Brickey,

Have you tried making and adding garlic oil mixed with CS to your feet. ,
Easy enough to do.  JUst chop up galic cloves into olive oil.  Let them set
for a few ours and you have galic oil. Or you can rub galic bulbs on
straight. most fungi do not like garlic.  Also add corn starch to your
socks. It is a major drying agent and most fungi can't survive the dryness.

Barb
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Re: CS>Re Anarchy

2000-09-28 Thread mfinney
Dear Chuck,

Why yes, in the strictest definition of the word  I am an anarchist. 
LIbertarinaism is the closest I can come to my real philosophies, but in
the end I would be best defined as a person in favor of cooperative
anarchy.  I am against all govenment whatsoever.I believe that mature
intelligent people can accomplish any goal via intent and cooperation among
one another.  Governments are just self-serving restrictive bodies.   In my
definition,  anarchy is not chaos which is how most people define it, but
structured  freedom in how I define it.

Barb
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