Re: CS O2 research
Happy New Year Greetings to all Silver-List members
Larry Tankersley wrote:
.. to recognise the oxygen paradox - life's
requirement for a fuel that destroys lifeDenham Harman..
Reactive Oxygen Species {ROS}: Nascent Oxygen,Superoxide, H2O2
etc, are the main transport for Negative Air Ions [NAI]. Chronic lack of NAI
leads to
depressed Immune Resistance and Ill-health. Esoteric
revelations and scientific findings explain many of the healing effects of
air currents around trees, grass and natural waters, which are expressed in
ancient wisdom.
As for the future of the society and its members,Grisham notes that the
goal is to intervene where nature has left off.
There is only so much we can do with jungle juice biology,
To this very day, I still hug trees and swim in my birthday suit in
Mother nature's splendour, when nobody is looking.
http://www.biophotonen-online.de/abstract/abs2000-9.htm
KNOW what can be KNOWN based on what is KNOWN
untill what is KNOWN is proven erroneous.
Research by a Microbe-Minerals inter-action group using
Biological Forced Microscopy may throw some light on the
impact of Iron and Manganese on the production of oxidative stress by free
radicals.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/05/010518083923.htm
With regards
Lew
- Original Message -
From: larry tankersley la...@webtv.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 4:43 AM
Subject: CS O2 research
Dear list... The following abstract is from HMS BEAGLE [a site by
scientist for scientist]
If you feel the scientific method is invalid -for what ever reason-
you might want to skip this,as it deals with the pain staking process
needed to KNOW what can be KNOWN based on what is KNOWN untill what's
KNOWN is proven erroneous. Maybe science might be defined as a very high
level of conjecture? Things Change
And... perhaps one might want to read further if considering the use
of O2.
Rusting from Within
The Dark Side of O2
by Pamela Weintraub
Posted December 21, 2001 · Issue 117
Abstract
Free radicals produced as by-products of aerobic metabolism in
mitochondria contribute to certain neurodegenerative diseases and aging.
At the forefront of the fight against these scavengers, the Oxygen
Society and its members seek to understand the mechanisms of free
radical damage and develop interventions to slow the damage. Mention
oxygen society and you cannot help but evoke the image of some posh
Los Angeles club with interior chambers of pumped-in, purified oxygen,
and potent elixirs of juniper, eucalyptus, and sage. When it comes to
oxygen clubs, a search of the Internet shows those of a pro-oxygen
mindset to be plentiful, indeed. But unbeknownst to the public, say some
world-class scientists, the proprietors of these establishments have
made a mistake.
Oxygen is both essential and toxic.Enter a different type of oxygen
club: the Oxygen Society, a group of scientists determined to set the
oxygen worshippers straight. It is our very metabolism of oxygen, and
the resulting toxic by-products, that causes cancer, neurodegeneration,
aging, and death, the society says. Established only 15 years ago and
already boasting an elite membership of more than 1,200 scientists,
including three who have recently won the Nobel Prize, the
California-based society has a mission statement that should leave no
one confused: The Oxygen Society was established in 1987 in response to
a growing recognition of the 'dark side' of oxygen as a major issue for
the life sciences. The oxygen paradox tells us that oxygen is both
necessary for aerobic life and toxic to all life forms. Free radicals
and active oxygen species now touch every biological and medical
discipline. Efforts to counteract the damage caused by these species are
gaining acceptance as a basis for novel therapeutic approaches and the
field of preventive medicine is experiencing an upsurge of interest in
medically useful antioxidants.
According to Kent Lindeman, executive director of the society, the group
leads the charge against this Darth Vader of the body through its
conferences, workshops, education programs, and especially its journal,
Free Radical Biology and Medicine, the preeminent peer-reviewed
publication in the field. Recent issues carried articles on such weighty
topics as cell death, the impact of iron and manganese on the production
of free radicals, oxidative stress in athletes during extreme endurance
exercise, and oxidative stress in the brain during bacterial meningitis.
Colleagues scorned Harmon for saying we rust from the inside.The first
scientist to recognize the oxygen paradox - life's requirement for a
fuel that destroys life - was Denham Harmon, a chemist, as well as a
physician. It was back in the 1950s that he first compared the
production of free radicals, the charged, reactive oxygen molecules
generated as
Re: CSBubble Spa CS Question
In article 005c01c18ef8$5d356ae0$a76eb...@hdw2v, Kathryn Neff n...@ricc.net wrote: Oh yes, for those that asked what kind of spa bubbling pad it was and where I got itthe spa is a Conair Deluxe Thermal Spa with a remote controller..Model No. MBTS4you definitely want that I saw three or four models, (two brands) some cheaper, but they did not have all the bells and whistlesThe deluxe has a remote and you can have the bubble action speed on fast , med. or slow, also can have random action and pulsing action..I found the random was good on the body, it changed speed and action...it was also good to be able to make these selections from the tub and not have to reach the unit.This one cost me $80 on sale, it was $88 regular price..that is not a lot for the best one they had in that little store. (It is an old walmart with not much selection). I consider it money well spent. One question: Is the unit noisy? -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArthritis?....and Computers?
In article 3c2b5819.a9fee...@new.co.za, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote: Dear Lew, The colours on my pc are good. The monitor does not need degaussing, it is really OK for other sites and programs. I think the problem is with your site. I have no problem with his site. Try using a different browser. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: nebulizers
In article ncbbllipahioenbmipamcekcgeaa.edkas...@pacbell.net, Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation under $20 (new). Wonder if this would work for C-S Probably not. If it's anything like the oil nebulizer I have that uses an aquarium pump, the output is a tiny amount of mist. Also, an oil nebulizer is designed for a more viscous liquid than CS. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSStates ask for more power to quarantine
There is a statute already packaged that will be distributed to the states. I had a copy but lost it in the matrix; no doubt it will resurface as more people begin to snap to what is happening now. Basically, it says: 1. If the state public health agency declares a biological emergency, 2. The Governor shall declare martial law. 3. Anyone, (presumably without the proper papers---someone has do the arresting) may be arrested, handcuffed, transported in any form of conveyance whatsoever; 4. To any destination; 5. And shot up with any substance whatsoever. In the event you are injured in any manner whatsoever, or killed, or separated from your loved ones or loose all of your property and belongings, you have no remedy against those who have harmed you. It is in the statute. Of course, the statute conflicts with basic law, but that has never stopped them. Everyone not in the areas where they start doing this will say, It's too bad, but it is for the greater good---i.e. doesn't affect me. They don't even have to demonstrate that you are in the infected area. Silver will protect us against virtually any epidemic, but it can not protect us against such a clever and well organized imposition of tyranny. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSStates ask for more power to quarantine http://nandotimes.com/healthscience/v-text/story/196479p-1907757c.html Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar Influence on the Production of ElectrochemicalColloidal Silver.htm
No, I'm suggesting that periodic changes in light disrupt sleep patterns to some extent and that people who are not sleeping have more light to go about mischief in. This morning, I awoke at 4 AM with the moon shining in and my body fully thought it was time to get up. Ken At 11:01 AM 12/27/01 -0500, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: The change in behavior due to the full moon may have more to do with additional light than tidal forces. I know I find it hard to sleep during a full moon just because it's lighter out. Surely you are not suggesting that a full moon is brighter than daylight. If light had this much effect it would be obvious when making CS during the day vs during the night. Unless the spectrum is important. The moon has almost no infrared and uv in it's light like the sun does. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSanimals and CS
List, I live with a massage therapist and two dogs. My human friend, though very interested in holistic health, does not always do what he knows is best for him (for instance, he drinks too much coffee and likes to eat white flour, sweet cakes). However, he's always very supportive of the various things I do to help myself. The basic medical care and feeding of the dogs (I BARF them, or feed them Bones And Raw Food) is left to me. Several months ago, I began substituting Colloidal Silver for the dogs' water. Paul remarked (I think to his surprise) that the dogs are drinking much more now that the CS is in their bowl. And the water they'd had was good, alkaline water made with my water electrolysis unit--so it wasn't as though they were drinking lousy water. This has so impressed Paul that he is now taking Colloidal Silver every day. I thought you might be interested to know. And the dogs are basically very healthy. (Haven't seen 'em turn gray yet!) Regards, Nina Silver (who is becoming VERY fond of her name) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS started too late.
- Original Message - From: Mike Fuller car...@touch88.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:11 PM Subject: Re: CSCS started too late. Oranges, like all citrus fruit, are mucolytic, that is they help break up the mucous (Oz spelling :-) Foods such as dairy products are mucous forming (mucogenic). Perhaps you were thinking of the increase in mucous flow when you eat oranges. This is simply the mucous breaking up and discharging much more easily, which is exactly what your body needs to do. It is the supression of mucous discharge that leads to worsening health problems. Mike, Just one thought about citrus and mucous. People who are allergic to citrus produce more mucous--in which case, the oranges WOULD be mycolytic. Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS brewing mixture
Russ said: What did you mean: 3 quarts of DW mixed with one quart of CS in a 1-gallon pickle jar, brewed for one hour Do you mean you brew a quart, then dilute it with 3 qt. DW? Tx. Russ, I take a quart of CS (that I already brewed) and mix it with 3 quarts of DW in a 1-gallon pickle jar. This gives me one gallon of CS when through brewing. I save a quart of that for brewing the next batch, or use all four quarts to brew 4 gallons of CS, using four 1-gallon pickle jars. Terry __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS vs. homeopathic remedy?
A member of my CSCats-dogs list recently purchased this ''CS'' product. http://www.thepowerstore.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/dpower2/htmlos.cgi/710.2.228255 9111315095181/dbpsprod/frameindex.html I am a new student to homeopathy. I have been trying to formulate verbally an opinion/comment on this product but having trouble putting to words with my limited knowledge. Per my understanding of homeopathy, the remedy is actually the energy of the original substance (in this case silver-Argentum metallicum). The labeling on her bottle says a 5X potency. What I find confusing about their marketing; via their website they state 24ppm. (the statement of 24ppm is missing from the bottle labeling) Would it not be impossible to have 24ppm CS in the bottle if it is a 5X potency of a silver remedy? Perhaps they started with a drop of 24 ppm to begin their succussion sp to reach the 5X potency? I also wonder how this site has missed the hand of the FDA? Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBubble Spa CS Question
John: No, it is not noisy at all.the unit sits on the floor(it has a 9 ft hose) so that you can have it away from the tub...use the remote to select options. The air forced through the mat creates the bubbles covering the entire length of the tubyour feet receive as much massage as your hips One question: Is the unit noisy? -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS O2 research
FHLew wrote: To this very day, I still hug trees and swim in my birthday suit in Mother nature's splendour, when nobody is looking. A Reichi healer friend of mine says that you can categorize energies as positive and negative, and that they are opposite from us for trees. Thus you can give your negative energy to a tree by hugging it, and it will give you it's positive energy, and you both will benefit by the exchange. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: NYC Resuce Workers
I went to ground zero a week ago, inside the closed area for a half hour. There was a strong wind blowing and I came away with an upper respiratory infection. George
Re: CScritique please/lunar influence
Thanks so much for all the comments and critiques I got to my question. A newbie to CS chose this as his method for his home brewI could not decide why he chose a protocol that seemed so restrictive, and IMHO anal. His response... It seemed a ''cool method''. Best wishes, Connie From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:12:53 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScritique please Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 05:37:56 -0800 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS vs. homeopathic remedy?
On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:52:52 -0500, Connie wufn...@stargate.net wrote: I am a new student to homeopathy. I have been trying to formulate verbally an opinion/comment on this product but having trouble putting to words with my limited knowledge. Per my understanding of homeopathy, the remedy is actually the energy of the original substance (in this case silver-Argentum metallicum). The labeling on her bottle says a 5X potency. The term homeopathy appears to have been bastardized! 5X is an unusual potency. What I find confusing about their marketing; via their website they state 24ppm. (the statement of 24ppm is missing from the bottle labeling) Would it not be impossible to have 24ppm CS in the bottle if it is a 5X potency of a silver remedy? I think you would expect no discernable silver in a homeopathic remedy. Instead, the energy pattern of the substance is what's important. 24ppm is pretty high for even a regular CS brew. 5 to 10 ppm being common. Perhaps they started with a drop of 24 ppm to begin their succussion sp to reach the 5X potency? I also wonder how this site has missed the hand of the FDA? I doubt that it will... You are an educated consumer, the bane of the huckster! Chuck Whenever you're holding all the cards, why does everyone else turn out to be playing chess? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Poinsettia CS
I gave my daughter some cs to use on her Christmas tree. She decided to put some on her Poinsettia plant as well, which she watered with it and then sprayed it on the leaves, after a very short while the leaves started to curl and the plant died. Has any one else experienced this? Can anyone explain why this happens? The cs is made by HVAC method, and I believe it is approx 70% ionic and 30% particles, is clear and measures 14 ppm. Thanks in advance for your response. Dave Sawatzky
Re: CSCS brewing mixture
Hmmm...When you add the 3 qt. DW, is that the finished product, or are you saying that you spike 3 qts. DW with 1 pt. CS to jump-start the brewing process?? Tx. --Russ - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:43 AM Subject: CSCS brewing mixture Russ said: What did you mean: 3 quarts of DW mixed with one quart of CS in a 1-gallon pickle jar, brewed for one hour Do you mean you brew a quart, then dilute it with 3 qt. DW? Tx. Russ, I take a quart of CS (that I already brewed) and mix it with 3 quarts of DW in a 1-gallon pickle jar. This gives me one gallon of CS when through brewing. I save a quart of that for brewing the next batch, or use all four quarts to brew 4 gallons of CS, using four 1-gallon pickle jars. Terry __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Poinsettia CS
Not from the CS. My sister uses it on all her plants with good results. Did the soil dry out? Did she have in in a window? Marshall Dave Sawatzky wrote: I gave my daughter some cs to use on her Christmas tree. She decided to put some on her Poinsettia plant as well, which she watered with it and then sprayed it on the leaves, after a very short while the leaves started to curl and the plant died.Has any one else experienced this?Can anyone explain why this happens? The cs is made by HVAC method, and I believe it is approx 70% ionic and 30% particles, is clear and measures 14 ppm. Thanks in advance for your response. Dave Sawatzky -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: nebulizers: Opps!
Opps . I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation there suggested retail price is $19.95. Wonder if this would work for C-S . From Starwest.1-800--800-4372 web site but does not have pictures. web http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/default.asp NOTE: I read the wrong description !!! item number #266350 is for $19.95 its a small unit with a simple heating element.up to 500 sq ft item number 266350 retails $48.89 (wholesale $29.95) is for the description above plus says that the oil vapor created by the glass nebulizer stays suspended in the air for longer periods of time and cover 900 sq ft. The fine print reads that it should not be used with heavy oils and suggests dilution with alcohol or water. compare this to an earlier Post by Dave ... Drugstore.com sells the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. I have purchased 4 of these for friends that do not have internet access. They can be purchased without prescription, and they work very well. One person cleared up his pneumonia, my sister is presently using one for her lung cancer and in her last report the tumor had reduced in size. The Omron Nebulizer does not require oxygen or external compressor. It has a built in air pump, runs on 115 volts, and comes with all accessories required to make a very fine mist. Also included is a video tape showing how to use it and clean it. Dave I couldn't fine the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. at drugstore.com (I sent them email) but came across a ultraviolet mist humidifier for $79.95 ..] Only Slant/Fin's Exclusive Ultraviolet Germicidal Technology Can Deliver 99.999% Germ-Free Warm Mist $79.99 www.drugstore.com unit at http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40613catid=25429trx=GFI-0-; trxp1=25429trxp2=40613trxp3=1btrx=BUY-GFI-0- Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanimals and CS
- Original Message - From: ol...@aol.com To: ni...@bestweb.net Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: Re: CSanimals and CS Nina: We have two middle-aged neutered male house cats. How much CS should we start with to the regular water bowl? What PPM do you use? How much does one increase at a time? At what point does one level off for maintenance? Can one put CS in with our Beta? We've had it for 8 months! Same questions as above as to the fish. What's your opinion as to giving a 12 year old German Shepherd CS? He has the problem in the hind quarters. He's otherwise in good shape. We've tried to get him to take flaxseed oil mixed in his 'wet food' but he most of the time vomits it up. We pulverize MSM and Gluclosomine (sp?) into his 'wet food' at alternating times. He takes that OK. If you have the time, we would like your opinion and/or experience in this area. Thanks, Thom Thom, Thank you for allowing me to share your question and my answer with the entire Silver List. As you will discover the more you read the CS posts, there are many knowledgeable people on this list. And I think that many people will be interested in exploring the issues that you raise. In answer to your general question about feeding animals CS: Many people, including myself, simply fill the animal's bowl with 5 to 12 PPM (part per million) Colloidal Silver. The animals drink it *instead* of water. This is a preventive measure. It's even more important, if the animal is sick, to replace all water with CS--that is, unless the animal has too many detox reactions too quickly. In a human, a detox response can include fatigue, headache, nausea and even vomiting, and discharges through the skin. The animal experts on this list will know more than I what constitutes a detox reaction in a dog. The age of the animal shouldn't make a difference in whether you feed it Cs--though again, it's best to monitor the animal and see how it behaves. You ask about a Beta. I'm not familiar with this term, so can't make any suggestions. As for fish--I have no idea! I tend to think not, but perhaps someone else has had experience with this. Why are you giving your 12-year-old German Shepherd flax oil? You say that he vomits it. Perhaps he isn't digesting fats very well and is lacking the enzyme lipase. If it were my dog, I'd be feeding him Wobenzymes, an enzyme supplement that comes from Europe and that in Germany, outsells all the allopathic anti-inflammatory medications combined because it works so well, naturally. You also say that your Shepherd eats wet food. Is this homemade, or from a commercial dog company? Most commercial dog and cat foods contain the flesh, fur and feathers of euthanized animals, as well as indigestible high-cellulose fiber hulls from grain hulled in grain mills. There are a number of BARFers on this list (including myself) -- people who BARF their dogs. In this case, BARF doesn't mean vomit, but rather Bones And Raw Food or Bio-Active Raw Food. I feed my 11-year-old and 8-year-old dogs raw foods, as close to what their ancestors eat in the wild, and my animal friends have never been healthier. You might want to research the work of Ian Billinghurst on the internet. Good luck with your pets, and don't be shy about asking questions on the list. There are many people in all stages of learning here, and we're all glad to help each other. Regards, Nina Silver -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSReasons for Newbie confusion on color
From http://www.elixa.com/silver/ The CS-300D produces solutions equal to or better than the finest available on the market! We have improved the design without increasing the cost to make premium, ultrafine yellow solutions, with particle size in the range considered optimal (0.005 - 0.015 microns in diameter), and outperform any system on the market, guaranteed. From http://www.all-natural.com/cosilver.html For more detailed information on the CS-300 Unit and how to make yellow Colloidal Silver, the very best available today, CLICK HERE. From http://www.angelcities.com/members/pathways/cs/making.htm Color will usually deepen after sitting for a number of hours. A yellow colored colloidal silver can also be made with your generator by using distilled water without any saline solution. For best results, use no more than eight ounces of hot water in a tall narrow glass to put as much silver in the water as possible. Process time will be around 45 minutes because of the reduced conductivity of the water. Keep an eye on your solution. If you forget about it and go to the movies you will end up with a highly concentrated brown sludge. I do not recommend ingesting high concentrations undiluted. If you do make a brown sludge you can put a small amount in a glass of water and stir. It should turn the water yellow, or, in higher concentrations, amber. From http://www.bioelectric.ws/eng/silver-instr.html After two hours when the particles are evenly dispersed in the water the color should be light yellow or golden yellow. Other colors indicate the particle size is slightly larger than the ideal size which may be due to using a low quality distilled water. If there is no color then clean the electrodes and treat another cup of water for 25 minutes. Now I am confused...it seems like they MOSTLY say yellow
Re: CSRE: nebulizers
Who is marketing it, is it on a website? Leo Ed Kasper wrote: I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation under $20 (new). Wonder if this would work for C-S ed kasper, still in santa cruz, ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSanimals and CS
I have had good experiences with CS when giving it to my reptiles. i've knocked out two particularly nasty infections that would have taken weeks and weeks of constant fussing with disinfectants and antibiotics. yuck to that. dave CONSUMER GENERAL'S WARNING: To Neutralize the Dangerous Effects of Any Radical Movement, the Marketplace Will Employ Repressive Tolerance, Oppressive Exclusion or Suppressive Ridicule.
CSCS: Bettas
Can one put CS in with our Beta? We've had it for 8 months! and: You ask about a Beta. I'm not familiar with this term, so can't make any suggestions. As for fish--I have no idea! I tend to think not, but perhaps someone else has had experience with this. OK, you guys, listen up, Marshalee the Perfectionist here... It is Betta, pronounced Bet-uh not Bayta. Beta is a Greek letter. Betta is a Siamese Fighting Fish. Got it? Sorry, that is one of my pet peeves, as I have been a Betta owner and fancier for many years. Yes, CS is good for Bettas. Mine is in a one gallon glass bowl, not one of those abominable tiny prisons, which also makes me cringe, as Bettas love to swim freely. (They also appreciate a water temp. of 80 degrees, not room temp. Amazing how active they are when given room, heat and good food!) When I`m not so broke, I`m getting him a five gallon aquarium. Now and then I put some CS into his freshly changed water, about a teaspoonful. Doesn`t seem to hurt him any, and I`ve had this fellow for over a year, so far so good! He is unusual in color, he has a deep blue body, with blue-edged golden fins! (By the way, for the Newbies out there, who missed my rant of several months ago, the word is preventive, not preventatative, ie.what CS is so good at doing!) OK, I`ll shut up for now!!! :o) Love, Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFuture trends
Hi Lew, I've got a better insight on your words of wisdom since noticing the date of your last posting (Thursday, 28 December 2017 13:37) Thank you for sharing with us present day mortals :-) Regards, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: nebulizers: Opps!
Probably won't work; it will distill the sol, emitting water vapor and leaving the Ag behind. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRE: nebulizers: Opps! Opps . I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation there suggested retail price is $19.95. Wonder if this would work for C-S . From Starwest.1-800--800-4372 web site but does not have pictures. web http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/default.asp NOTE: I read the wrong description !!! item number #266350 is for $19.95 its a small unit with a simple heating element.up to 500 sq ft item number 266350 retails $48.89 (wholesale $29.95) is for the description above plus says that the oil vapor created by the glass nebulizer stays suspended in the air for longer periods of time and cover 900 sq ft. The fine print reads that it should not be used with heavy oils and suggests dilution with alcohol or water. compare this to an earlier Post by Dave ... Drugstore.com sells the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. I have purchased 4 of these for friends that do not have internet access. They can be purchased without prescription, and they work very well. One person cleared up his pneumonia, my sister is presently using one for her lung cancer and in her last report the tumor had reduced in size. The Omron Nebulizer does not require oxygen or external compressor. It has a built in air pump, runs on 115 volts, and comes with all accessories required to make a very fine mist. Also included is a video tape showing how to use it and clean it. Dave I couldn't fine the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. at drugstore.com (I sent them email) but came across a ultraviolet mist humidifier for $79.95 ..] Only Slant/Fin's Exclusive Ultraviolet Germicidal Technology Can Deliver 99.999% Germ-Free Warm Mist $79.99 www.drugstore.com unit at http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40613catid=25429trx=GFI-0-; trxp1=25429trxp2=40613trxp3=1btrx=BUY-GFI-0- Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Poinsettia CS
Guessing. Dead soil microorganisms. Lots of others have successfully cured fungus on other plants by spraying the leaves. Or, the famous x factor. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Dave Sawatzky [mailto:dsawa...@mb.sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:49 AM To: Silver-List@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Poinsettia CS I gave my daughter some cs to use on her Christmas tree. She decided to put some on her Poinsettia plant as well, which she watered with it and then sprayed it on the leaves, after a very short while the leaves started to curl and the plant died. Has any one else experienced this? Can anyone explain why this happens? The cs is made by HVAC method, and I believe it is approx 70% ionic and 30% particles, is clear and measures 14 ppm. Thanks in advance for your response. Dave Sawatzky
CSGraviola for cancer
Anyone had any experience with graviola? Would appreciate some impute. John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSimple CS brewing
Russ, Take a 1-gallon pickle jar (empty). Pour in 3 quarts of distilled water. Now pour in 1 quart of Colloidal Silver (gotten from wherever you can, including buying, borrowing or making it yourself by whatever method you already know - I can email you instructions for making it with low-voltage). Hang two silver wires down into the jar, on opposite sides of the jar (mine are 9 long). Hook up 110-120 VDC to the silver wires. Let brew for 60 minutes. Wipe off the wires, strain the CS (I use coffee filters). Use one quart of this CS as starter for the next batch. Savvy? __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: nebulizers: Opps!
That is not a nebulizer, it is a mist. I was corrected on this point earlier. Leo Ed Kasper wrote: Opps . I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation there suggested retail price is $19.95. Wonder if this would work for C-S . From Starwest.1-800--800-4372 web site but does not have pictures. web http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/default.asp NOTE: I read the wrong description !!! item number #266350 is for $19.95 its a small unit with a simple heating element.up to 500 sq ft item number 266350 retails $48.89 (wholesale $29.95) is for the description above plus says that the oil vapor created by the glass nebulizer stays suspended in the air for longer periods of time and cover 900 sq ft. The fine print reads that it should not be used with heavy oils and suggests dilution with alcohol or water. compare this to an earlier Post by Dave ... Drugstore.com sells the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. I have purchased 4 of these for friends that do not have internet access. They can be purchased without prescription, and they work very well. One person cleared up his pneumonia, my sister is presently using one for her lung cancer and in her last report the tumor had reduced in size. The Omron Nebulizer does not require oxygen or external compressor. It has a built in air pump, runs on 115 volts, and comes with all accessories required to make a very fine mist. Also included is a video tape showing how to use it and clean it. Dave I couldn't fine the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. at drugstore.com (I sent them email) but came across a ultraviolet mist humidifier for $79.95 ..] Only Slant/Fin's Exclusive Ultraviolet Germicidal Technology Can Deliver 99.999% Germ-Free Warm Mist $79.99 www.drugstore.com unit at http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40613catid=25429trx=GFI-0-; trxp1=25429trxp2=40613trxp3=1btrx=BUY-GFI-0- Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: nebulizers: Opps!
That is not a nebulizer, it is a mist. I was corrected on this point earlier. Ed Kasper wrote: Opps . I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation there suggested retail price is $19.95. Wonder if this would work for C-S . From Starwest.1-800--800-4372 web site but does not have pictures. web http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/default.asp NOTE: I read the wrong description !!! item number #266350 is for $19.95 its a small unit with a simple heating element.up to 500 sq ft item number 266350 retails $48.89 (wholesale $29.95) is for the description above plus says that the oil vapor created by the glass nebulizer stays suspended in the air for longer periods of time and cover 900 sq ft. The fine print reads that it should not be used with heavy oils and suggests dilution with alcohol or water. compare this to an earlier Post by Dave ... Drugstore.com sells the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. I have purchased 4 of these for friends that do not have internet access. They can be purchased without prescription, and they work very well. One person cleared up his pneumonia, my sister is presently using one for her lung cancer and in her last report the tumor had reduced in size. The Omron Nebulizer does not require oxygen or external compressor. It has a built in air pump, runs on 115 volts, and comes with all accessories required to make a very fine mist. Also included is a video tape showing how to use it and clean it. Dave I couldn't fine the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. at drugstore.com (I sent them email) but came across a ultraviolet mist humidifier for $79.95 ..] Only Slant/Fin's Exclusive Ultraviolet Germicidal Technology Can Deliver 99.999% Germ-Free Warm Mist $79.99 www.drugstore.com unit at http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40613catid=25429trx=GFI-0-; trxp1=25429trxp2=40613trxp3=1btrx=BUY-GFI-0- Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Poinsettia CS
Hi Dave, How do you make your HVAC??? If it is make by the arc method with an air blanket then you have a good sized ppm of NO3 !!! that is part of nitric acid. My HVAC ARC CSmade with a CO2 blanket will have no more and 0.0 to 2.0 ppm of NO3. I have seen some made in ait with 27 ppm of NO3, and that is disaster. Since Dr Bill Bagioli and my self developed the HVAC ARC method, please tell me exacly what you are doing. It can be great stuff with 98+% ionic silver or a real disaster. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSReasons for Newbie confusion on color
Hi Connie, Pure hype. who wants yellow CS Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS brewing
WOULD YOU SEND ME THE INSTRUCTIONS ON MAKING A CS GENERATOR. I AM NEW TO YOUR LIST, BUT VERY INTERESTED. SEND TO stewpidas...@aol.com. THANKS
Re: CSGraviola for cancer
Hi John, I have a friend whose husband had prostate cancer. It is now in remission and they swear by Graviola. My friend follows holistic medicine and definitely didn't want to follow traditional medicine's treatment of prostate cancer. She spent hundreds of hours researching her options, choose Graviola, and now sings the praises of Graviola. The traditional medical Dr. told them whatever you are doingkeep do it! She gave me this web site: http://www.rain-tree.com/n-tense.htm I have no affiliation with this site and neither does she. I'm only passing on a successful testimony of a person I trust. She had her husband use N-Tense which has Graviola in it. I was so impressed with her story that I put the site in my cancer cure folder (which I keep in case I or one of my loved ones develops cancer). If you go to that site you will find a lot of information on other ingredients and Graviola. From my friends testimony I know, if a Doctor told me I had cancer, I would place an order for N-Tense the same day. Also, in my cancer cure folder I have noni juice which is currently doing wondrous things for another friend of mine who has breast cancer. Best of luck and Happy New Year to all on the list! LP
Re: CSSimple CS brewing
It is posts like this, directed at beginners, that are so helpful to me. Thanks Terry. I know this works for you, and not everyone will make their stuff the way you do. That is okay with me. Terry, could you email me instructions for making it with low voltage? What do you mean by hooking up 110-120 VDC? Leo Terry Chamberlin wrote: Russ, Take a 1-gallon pickle jar (empty). Pour in 3 quarts of distilled water. Now pour in 1 quart of Colloidal Silver (gotten from wherever you can, including buying, borrowing or making it yourself by whatever method you already know - I can email you instructions for making it with low-voltage). Hang two silver wires down into the jar, on opposite sides of the jar (mine are 9 long). Hook up 110-120 VDC to the silver wires. Let brew for 60 minutes. Wipe off the wires, strain the CS (I use coffee filters). Use one quart of this CS as starter for the next batch. Savvy? __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS brewing
If you strain your stuff with coffee filters, does that mean you are straining out excessive CS out of your solution? Leo Terry Chamberlin wrote: Russ, Take a 1-gallon pickle jar (empty). Pour in 3 quarts of distilled water. Now pour in 1 quart of Colloidal Silver (gotten from wherever you can, including buying, borrowing or making it yourself by whatever method you already know - I can email you instructions for making it with low-voltage). Hang two silver wires down into the jar, on opposite sides of the jar (mine are 9 long). Hook up 110-120 VDC to the silver wires. Let brew for 60 minutes. Wipe off the wires, strain the CS (I use coffee filters). Use one quart of this CS as starter for the next batch. Savvy? __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLunar CS making
..Now if the moon phase can influence such an observeable phenomenom as floatation of logs, I don't think it too much of a stretch to consider its influence on the formation of colloids, whose stability is dependant on the ability of the water to support the particles. Regards, Mike Fuller But it is a huge stretch of the imagination. A log at near neutral bouyancy need only swell by a few percent (or alternately, expell a few percent moisture) to successfully float down a river. Silver colloid particles are 10 times the density of water, and remain suspended by brownian motion - a temperature dependent thermal effect, augmented by the zeta potential and any actual excess charge present. The two phenomena are chalk and cheese. ..The canine and the feline families manifest uncanny abilities which have great survival values in their respective vibrational planes but are rare ocurrences amongst humans in our 35th - 40th Octave world for seeing and hearingHearing is sensory dissociation without concentrationThe whole human body is a finely tuned electomagnetic sense organ in resonance, It is a cohesive manifestation of vibrationasl states of electromagnetism : light, sound and geometryWith regards, Lew Would like to know just what a vibrational plane is, what our 35th - 40th Octave world actually means (for instance - just what are the frequencies, and what is vibrating?), and how a human body can be fully or even partly described as a cohesive manifestation of vibrational states of electromagnetism (for starters, about 99.97% of our mass is of nuclear origin, which is not electromagnetic). I'm new to the list and have been reading with interest speculation regarding CS production. Japanese artist/photographer Masaru Emoto's book The Message from Water suggests that human vibrational energy, thoughts, words, and ideas affect the molecular structure of water. http://www.adhikara.com/water.html Regards, Donna Indeed he suggests it, and purports to prove it with photos. But has it been consistently reproduced by others - thus establishing it as a principle of nature? Put it this way; how many list members are going to slap a sticker on the side of their bottle of CS, with a message like I love you, and really expect that to make some positive difference? Or, following the gist of the recent reintroduction of Michael Theroux's article on lunar influence on CS production, should we be assiduously consulting Solunar charts before brewing CS? Hugging trees may indeed make the hugger feel better, but don't discount good old psychological factors before putting it down to exchange of positive and negative energies, for instance. Many concerned scientists think we are entering a new dark age, where magic and mysticism are reclaiming the ground won so hard by scientific progress over the last three centuries or so. To be sure, establishment science doesn't have all the answers, and there is a tendency to ignore phenomena that doesn't fit the mould. However the scientific method holds a rigour completely unmatched by mysticism whose pseudoscientific terminology merely gives the impression of really knowing. The unfortunate practice of carelessly or craftily blending together proven fact and speculation/folklore with the intent of making it look like a consistent whole is to be avoided like the plague. Hey, is there anyone else on this list who thinks like I do - if there is then have some balls and add your voice please! regards, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au
Re: CSThe Spot: Off Topic
Do you get UFO sightings as well there? It could be a ground signal area. Judith. 'Mystery Spot' is in my home town Santa Cruz, CA. scientist come to offer their explanations, best they say is that its an illusion... but it works. Been there several times, and the guides will let you bring any equipment you want to test. Many people like Terry said, bring their own levels, cameras, watches, walkie-talkies. Some things common is that people get dizzy and when walking down the stairs people are leaning backwards until they cross outside the area and the next step they're leaning forward as one would naturally walk down stairs. Golf balls roll uphill !!!, Pendulum swings counter clockwise (normal for Australians, but not for elsewhere, USA. People of equal height standing 3 feet apart - on a level surface, proved by your own carpenters level, change places and their heights change. Proved again by your own photographs! It does appear to be outside the intent of the person. But again, this is California and people do have their own reality here. BTW, the Mystery Spot has not been approved or endorsed by the FDA, and does not make any claims what-so-ever. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Spot When I was in High school, I got a job one summer at a tourist attraction called, The Mystery Spot. (This is in Calif.) It was an area about 100 yards across in which gravity, it was claimed, pulled at an angle, rather than straight down. The buildings were built slanted, we were told, to accentuate the angle (which was up to about 12-18 degrees over from straight vertical). I thought it was all silliness when I first went to work there. Then I noticed certain anomalies. One of them was that everyone's digital watches were giving the wrong time, every time, several hours wrong, when the customer got out of the Spot. What this would have to do with gravity, I don't know, but it happened. Also, 2-way radios did not work in the Spot. Because this was well known, folks would bring their walky-talkys and one person would go into the Spot and one would stay in the parking lot. They could not communicate with each other. No voices, just static. Someone would bring in a long carpenters level, and lay it on a bench or step inside the Spot, and one end would clearly be higher than the other, even though the bubble showed it to be level. They had old, yellowed newspaper article clippings displayed under glass telling about the 11 other Spots that had been found around the world. There was even an article describing how a US military base in Africa had to be dismantled and moved because of all the accidents that kept happening there (car accidents, planes crashing, falling down stairs), because gravity didn't pull straight down. Interesting. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar CS making
There probably is, you're exemplifying the standard sceptic. I used to be as sure as you, but not anymore. I DO find the world to be more fun now, too... BTW, what is your age? Chuck This mind intentionally left blank. On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:59:16 +1100, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Hey, is there anyone else on this list who thinks like I do - if there is then have some balls and add your voice please! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSReasons for Newbie confusion on color
From http://www.elixa.com/silver/ The CS-300D produces solutions equal to or better than the finest available on the market! We have improved the design without increasing the cost to make premium, ultrafine yellow solutions, with particle size in the range considered optimal (0.005 - 0.015 microns in diameter), and outperform any system on the market, guaranteed. Just how was the particle size measured? If someone would volunteer to send a sample of this cs to the Colloidal Science Lab. we will measure the particle size distribution and post the results. frank key http://www.ColloidalScienceLab.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFuture trends
Greetings Mike, Seeing is believing. Computers can get back at you when you over work them. I have just changed my browser and I did not configire it right during installation. Thanks for the correction. Opera6, a downloadable a try-out, seems to be fast. I am like any of you mortals, absorbing and imbibing things which I should not and trying to unlearn things which I should while in medical school. Trapped in the time-tunnel between Past and Future, it is like walking in thin air with feet on the ground.in the etheric-material zone. With regards Lew - Original Message - From: Mike Fuller car...@touch88.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 6:57 AM Subject: CSFuture trends Hi Lew, I've got a better insight on your words of wisdom since noticing the date of your last posting (Thursday, 28 December 2017 13:37) Thank you for sharing with us present day mortals :-) Regards, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS started too late.
So what you are saying, is that when my husband eats oranges and gets mucousy straight away, this is good? Where is the mucus coming from? I would say this is more an allergic reaction, as it oranges seem to trigger his body to produce mucus. I know this is not the same as in the case of a cold. I was always taught to stay away from oranges when you got a cold. Grapefruit is fine, but not oranges... anyone know more about this? Not that I don't believe what you are saying just wondering who is right and who is wrong... Just read Nina's post there are a fair number of people who are allergic to oranges, so maybe when one has a cold, if they think they might be at all sensitive to oranges...don't have them! I saw Lord of the Rings last night - really good. Also had an ice-cream at the movies, and had a really bad reaction to it. My throat swelled up and it was awful. I AM allergic to milk. Had hoped it might had diminished, but alas didn't spoil the movie though. I would have had to die quietly so as not to upset my husband who is an avid fan :) Tracy Tracy - Original Message - From: Mike Fuller car...@touch88.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 28 December 2001 14:11 Subject: Re: CSCS started too late. Hi Tracy, Sorry, but I think you have this a little wrong: I wouldn't be taking orange juice when you have a cold, as it will increase mucus production. Oranges are extremely mucus forming. Oranges, like all citrus fruit, are mucolytic, that is they help break up the mucous (Oz spelling :-) Foods such as dairy products are mucous forming (mucogenic). Perhaps you were thinking of the increase in mucous flow when you eat oranges. This is simply the mucous breaking up and discharging much more easily, which is exactly what your body needs to do. It is the suppression of mucous discharge that leads to worsening health problems. Regards, Mike Fuller Hoping everyone had a mucous-free Christmas. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar CS making
The scientific method does not exist in reality, that is to say, in a pure sense, as contemplated in your post below. All we have in the real world are imperfect attempts at it. If it were more transparent to the public (as is our court system) we would all acknowledge this fact. Leo Kevin Nolan wrote: ..Now if the moon phase can influence such an observeable phenomenom as floatation of logs, I don't think it too much of a stretch to consider its influence on the formation of colloids, whose stability is dependant on the ability of the water to support the particles. Regards, Mike Fuller But it is a huge stretch of the imagination. A log at near neutral bouyancy need only swell by a few percent (or alternately, expell a few percent moisture) to successfully float down a river. Silver colloid particles are 10 times the density of water, and remain suspended by brownian motion - a temperature dependent thermal effect, augmented by the zeta potential and any actual excess charge present. The two phenomena are chalk and cheese. ..The canine and the feline families manifest uncanny abilities which have great survival values in their respective vibrational planes but are rare ocurrences amongst humans in our 35th - 40th Octave world for seeing and hearingHearing is sensory dissociation without concentrationThe whole human body is a finely tuned electomagnetic sense organ in resonance, It is a cohesive manifestation of vibrationasl states of electromagnetism : light, sound and geometryWith regards, Lew Would like to know just what a vibrational plane is, what our 35th - 40th Octave world actually means (for instance - just what are the frequencies, and what is vibrating?), and how a human body can be fully or even partly described as a cohesive manifestation of vibrational states of electromagnetism (for starters, about 99.97% of our mass is of nuclear origin, which is not electromagnetic). I'm new to the list and have been reading with interest speculation regarding CS production. Japanese artist/photographer Masaru Emoto's book The Message from Water suggests that human vibrational energy, thoughts, words, and ideas affect the molecular structure of water. http://www.adhikara.com/water.html Regards, Donna Indeed he suggests it, and purports to prove it with photos. But has it been consistently reproduced by others - thus establishing it as a principle of nature? Put it this way; how many list members are going to slap a sticker on the side of their bottle of CS, with a message like I love you, and really expect that to make some positive difference? Or, following the gist of the recent reintroduction of Michael Theroux's article on lunar influence on CS production, should we be assiduously consulting Solunar charts before brewing CS? Hugging trees may indeed make the hugger feel better, but don't discount good old psychological factors before putting it down to exchange of positive and negative energies, for instance. Many concerned scientists think we are entering a new dark age, where magic and mysticism are reclaiming the ground won so hard by scientific progress over the last three centuries or so. To be sure, establishment science doesn't have all the answers, and there is a tendency to ignore phenomena that doesn't fit the mould. However the scientific method holds a rigour completely unmatched by mysticism whose pseudoscientific terminology merely gives the impression of really knowing. The unfortunate practice of carelessly or craftily blending together proven fact and speculation/folklore with the intent of making it look like a consistent whole is to be avoided like the plague. Hey, is there anyone else on this list who thinks like I do - if there is then have some balls and add your voice please! regards, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au
CSRe: NYC Resuce Workers
Christiane, Lung problems are caused by many different things. I can imagine that at ground zero, breathing all that particulate materiaal, much of it could have been sand or clay. Breathing sand causes a particularly dibilitating illness called silicosis. What happens is that fine particles of silica sand get lodged in the lungs, and nothing will remove this. I recently read about a seabee who was sandblasting paint off of the deck of a ship, and for what ever reason was not wearing a mask. Within about twenty minutes he breathed enough, fine grained particulate sand to mess him up for life. In this case colloidal silver will not be of any special help. I think that breathing sand on an occasional basis, over a period of years, must have serious, deleterious effects. I also read a few years ago that sand from the Sahara, wafting across the Atlantic, is a serious health concern for New Yorkers. Reid Christiane wrote: Jim, I live nearby..and I have a friend working at ground zero. He worked daily for the first month and a half, and now only works there a couple of times per week. He is a NYC police officer. I personally hadn't heard about the lung issues, but then again, I haven't talked to him in a few weeks. Our schedules have not been conducive to communication in the weeks before the holidays. I nebulize with CS, but am not familiar with the ozone and peroxide being used with it. I am more than willing to share the info with him, but would need details. I apologize if this info has been posted on the list in the past few weeks, but I haven't had the time to read the posts either. I can pass on any info that anyone might feel is helpful. Thanks for the idea, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
