CS3r batch of cs

2002-05-24 Thread Roger D Ragain
Hello Everyone,

Following suggestions from list members like

Using Walgreens dw
Stirring by hand every half hour
Cleaning the electrodes 2.5 hours into the process
Using 4 ounces of cs as a starter
I was able to make a batch of cs in less than 4 hours. I can't give an
exact time as I went to check on it at exactly 4 hours and the process
had stopped.HURRAH! This batch looks as if it would have been
totally clear if the cs used as a starter had been clear to start with.
There are NO silver oxide deposits to filter but, I'm  wondering if I
should filter it anyway after 36 hours?

Thank you to those who replied to my previous e-mails.  I think I will
try the aquarium bubbler idea as my next experiment. Unfortunatley I
wasn't paying attention to the type of tubing used to attach to the air
stone and I must have deleated it as I look through some saved e-mails
looking for the reference. Can someone tell me the name of the hard
tubing again. 

Roger Ragain
Cahokia, Illinois
United States of America
E-mail:   rrag...@juno.com

CSFW: Natural Diet and Holisitc Pet Care seminar in Ohio

2002-05-24 Thread Connie


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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 02:04:38 -0400
To: Lisa Baird agil...@columbus.rr.com
Subject: Natural Diet and Holisitc Pet Care seminar in Ohio

Dear List Owner, We are hosting a seminar this summer that I am very
excited about. If it would not be in violation of your list rules, would
you mind posting the following for your members? I am sure others in the
OH/MI/KY/IN/PA area would like to see Kymythy and learn more about
natural diet and holistic pet care.

Thank you,
Lisa Baird
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Kymythy Schultze ~~  Holistic care of dogs and cats (1 Day)

July 6th, 2002 - Kymythy Schultze.
The topic will be Holistic Care for Dogs and Cats covering
homeopathy, natural nutrition and much more!
Kymythy, an Animal Health Instructor and Clinical Nutritionist is also
the author of Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats, the Ultimate
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Re: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread Ode Coyote
  Place a bowl of CS and a bowl of water n front of him and see which he
preferrs.
 Many cats [and dogs] like the CS better and it certainly won't hurt him.
 Cs has helped one of my cats skin condition a great deal.
Ken


At 07:18 PM 5/23/02 -0700, you wrote:
My cat (neutered male) just finished his second set of antibiotics. He
still pees without much coming out and he licks himself (no delicate way
to put it)  it seems to be irritated STILL. This has been going on for
over a month. Anyway I would like to try the CS on him. How much and how
often do folks recommend and how strong of a solution in PPM?
Thanks,
Janet


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CSBill to Boost Industry Fees That Fund FDA

2002-05-24 Thread Connie


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60149-2002May22.html

QUOTE:
Bill to Boost Industry Fees That Fund FDA
Critics Fear Conflicts
 
By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 23, 2002; Page A01

With little public discussion and limited debate on Capitol Hill, Congress
is 
moving to substantially expand the program through which companies pay large
fees to the Food and Drug Administration to review their new drug
applications -- making the agency increasingly dependent on the businesses
that it regulates.
END QUOTE




Re: CSBill to Boost Industry Fees That Fund FDA

2002-05-24 Thread Gary Green

On Friday, May 24, 2002, at 08:56  PM, Connie wrote:

With little public discussion and limited debate on Capitol Hill, 
Congress is
moving to substantially expand the program through which companies pay 
large

fees to the Food and Drug Administration to review their new drug
applications -- making the agency increasingly dependent on the 
businesses

that it regulates.
END QUOTE


Just business as usual from the people that gave you the Lone-Nut theory 
and the Magic-Bullet.


RE: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread John Reeder
I don't give my cats much choice. CS is in all of the cat water dishes
around the house. They both appear to be very healthy.

John

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 4:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFor cats? 


  Place a bowl of CS and a bowl of water n front of him and see which he
preferrs.
 Many cats [and dogs] like the CS better and it certainly won't hurt him.
 Cs has helped one of my cats skin condition a great deal.
Ken


At 07:18 PM 5/23/02 -0700, you wrote:
My cat (neutered male) just finished his second set of antibiotics. He
still pees without much coming out and he licks himself (no delicate way
to put it)  it seems to be irritated STILL. This has been going on for
over a month. Anyway I would like to try the CS on him. How much and how
often do folks recommend and how strong of a solution in PPM?
Thanks,
Janet


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Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-05-24 Thread M. G. Devour
Jan writes:
 Now I'm confussed, I thought making a batch takes only 20 minutes or
 so ( to get 20 ppm). There's so much conflicting information. With a 4
 hour batch, don't the batteries go dead? 

Y'all should recognise this... 1 minute per ppm is normally claimed for 
recipes that use a bit of salt or brine solution as a 'starter.'

Jan, most of us have stopped using salt and are using various methods
to make CS with just distilled water. On the downside, it takes longer
and produces 'fluffy' deposits on the negative electrode that you have
to deal with somehow. The upside is it avoids having to wonder what 
*else* is in it, and also produces smaller particles and/or a higher 
ionic content.

Many of us started out with the sort of recipe you're using, and the
fact that you're seeing results is not surprising. Don't worry that
anything you've done so far is wrong. Try out some of the suggestions
you're going to get and see what happens, okay?

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-05-24 Thread Jan
Now I'm confussed, I thought making a batch takes only 20 minutes or so
( to get 20 ppm). There's so much conflicting information. With a 4 hour
batch, don't the batteries go dead?  How strong is the CS then? Sorry to
be a newbie asking so many dumb questions. I'm using CS to treat myself
for hepatitis C, so I want to get this right. My life is at stake here.
And I have no health insurance and I'm not about to pay $20,000 for
interferon and to feel worse. I've only been doing the CS for a couple
of weeks now and I do feel better, except for the first week I felt kind
of spacey and out of it like you feel after a really long nap. Thanks
for this group.

Jan

Roger D Ragain wrote:

  Hello Everyone, Following suggestions from list members like

* Using Walgreens dw
* Stirring by hand every half hour
* Cleaning the electrodes 2.5 hours into the process
* Using 4 ounces of cs as a starter

 I was able to make a batch of cs in less than 4 hours. I can't give an
 exact time as I went to check on it at exactly 4 hours and the process
 had stopped.HURRAH! This batch looks as if it would have been
 totally clear if the cs used as a starter had been clear to start
 with. There are NO silver oxide deposits to filter but, I'm  wondering
 if I should filter it anyway after 36 hours? Thank you to those who
 replied to my previous e-mails.  I think I will try the aquarium
 bubbler idea as my next experiment. Unfortunatley I wasn't paying
 attention to the type of tubing used to attach to the air stone and I
 must have deleated it as I look through some saved e-mails looking for
 the reference. Can someone tell me the name of the hard tubing
 again. Roger Ragain
 Cahokia, Illinois
 United States of America
 E-mail:   rrag...@juno.com


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Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-05-24 Thread Marshalee Hallett

 Now I'm confussed, I thought making a batch takes only 20 minutes or so
 ( to get 20 ppm). There's so much conflicting information. With a 4 hour
 batch, don't the batteries go dead?  How strong is the CS then? Sorry to
 be a newbie asking so many dumb questions. I'm using CS to treat myself
 for hepatitis C, so I want to get this right. My life is at stake here.
 And I have no health insurance and I'm not about to pay $20,000 for
 interferon and to feel worse. I've only been doing the CS for a couple
 of weeks now and I do feel better, except for the first week I felt kind
 of spacey and out of it like you feel after a really long nap. Thanks
 for this group.

 Jan

Dear Jan, Everybody seems to have a right way to do it. I do mine in an
hour, color is clear, taste is minimal. I don`t stir, bubble, filter, or
heat the water. My CS works just fine!
Good luck to you!!!
Love,
Marshalee


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Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-05-24 Thread John A. Stanley
In article 007501c20333$0def57c0$7c92b...@laptop,
wolfcreek1 wolfcre...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hi Jan ~

Roger is making his CS in a quart mason jar, so if you are making yours in a
small glass, 20 minutes may be sufficient.  The larger the container, the
longer the cook time.

Also, the different current and voltage levels used in the various CS
generators will affect how long a batch takes.

-- 
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Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-05-24 Thread wolfcreek1
Hi Jan ~

Roger is making his CS in a quart mason jar, so if you are making yours in a
small glass, 20 minutes may be sufficient.  The larger the container, the
longer the cook time.

Julie  Critters
- Original Message -
From: Jan mtm...@pcweb.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


 Now I'm confussed, I thought making a batch takes only 20 minutes or so
 ( to get 20 ppm). There's so much conflicting information. With a 4 hour
 batch, don't the batteries go dead?  How strong is the CS then? Sorry to
 be a newbie asking so many dumb questions. I'm using CS to treat myself
 for hepatitis C, so I want to get this right. My life is at stake here.
 And I have no health insurance and I'm not about to pay $20,000 for
 interferon and to feel worse. I've only been doing the CS for a couple
 of weeks now and I do feel better, except for the first week I felt kind
 of spacey and out of it like you feel after a really long nap. Thanks
 for this group.

 Jan

 Roger D Ragain wrote:

   Hello Everyone, Following suggestions from list members like
 
 * Using Walgreens dw
 * Stirring by hand every half hour
 * Cleaning the electrodes 2.5 hours into the process
 * Using 4 ounces of cs as a starter
 
  I was able to make a batch of cs in less than 4 hours. I can't give an
  exact time as I went to check on it at exactly 4 hours and the process
  had stopped.HURRAH! This batch looks as if it would have been
  totally clear if the cs used as a starter had been clear to start
  with. There are NO silver oxide deposits to filter but, I'm  wondering
  if I should filter it anyway after 36 hours? Thank you to those who
  replied to my previous e-mails.  I think I will try the aquarium
  bubbler idea as my next experiment. Unfortunatley I wasn't paying
  attention to the type of tubing used to attach to the air stone and I
  must have deleated it as I look through some saved e-mails looking for
  the reference. Can someone tell me the name of the hard tubing
  again. Roger Ragain
  Cahokia, Illinois
  United States of America
  E-mail:   rrag...@juno.com


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Re: CS DISTILLED WATER.

2002-05-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
Gary Green wrote:

 On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 05:12 AM, larry tankersley wrote:

  In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This amazing
  technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a
  diagnostic and therapeutic tool.

 After reading this sentence I think anyone with two grey cells to rub
 together will hit the delete button.  No credibility what so ever.

What are you saying?  That consciousness can not be a diagnostic or
therapeutic tool?  Are you saying that doctors have no conciousness?  They may
be wrong a lot, but the are also right quite often, and they do diagnosis when
awake normally.

There are many examples of conciousness being a diagnostic tool. Everything
from doctors knowing how to diagnose and interpret their instruments, to
muscle testing, Clarks' diagnostic machine, dreaming what a problem is and
dowsing.  All can be very good diagnostic tools.  Without them nothing would
ever get diagnosed.

Same for therapeutic tools.  Although less often used, it can be quite
powerful.  Everything from cancer patients visualizing their cancers
shrinking, people taking a placebo and getting cured, to Reiki, to Christian
Healing to prayer is using conciousness as a therapeutic tool. The mind is
very powerful, and it can cure just as well as make you sick.

Marshall


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Re: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote:

   Place a bowl of CS and a bowl of water n front of him and see which he
 preferrs.
  Many cats [and dogs] like the CS better and it certainly won't hurt him.
  Cs has helped one of my cats skin condition a great deal.

I am not sure it is because of the CS specifically.  They seem to prefer some
taste to the water.  They will also pick toilet water and water from a bowl
filled with algae over pure clean water as well in my experience.

Marshall


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Re: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread bonnie schmidlkofer

- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley
 I am not sure it is because of the CS specifically.  They seem to prefer
some
 taste to the water.  They will also pick toilet water and water from a
bowl
 filled with algae over pure clean water as well in my experience.

My dogs would rather drink from a bucket of rainwater (with algae) outside
than what is in their water bucket.  I always put CS in their inside water
bucket along with some regular water.  Maybe it's the oxygen in the outside
water that they prefer...???  Seems to me that algae release oxygen as a
byproduct.

Thank goodness I've never owned a toilet-water-drinking dog...

Bonnie


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Re: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread Neilinthegarden
In a message dated 5/24/2002 9:15:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
mdud...@execonn.com writes:


 
 I am not sure it is because of the CS specifically.  They seem to prefer 
 some
 taste to the water.  They will also pick toilet water and water from a bowl
 filled with algae over pure clean water as well in my experience.
 
 Marshall

My sick cat adores drinking Prill water with a little CS in it.
Neil


Re: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread Tony Moody
Hullo Janet,
The CS could be any strength, 3pp to 20ppm. whatever you have.
Pour some CS over his food. Maybe mix some of it together. Mine demand more. 

Also add CS to his drinking water. I have a gallon bowl and I toss in a glass
(1/4 litre)of CS once a day. The bowl is cleaned and filled about twice a week. 

At your own risk you could try to give him a dose of CS using a syringe without
needle. I aim at trying to get about 15ml (1/2oz) of CS down the hatch twice per
day at least. This is enough to get him drinking on his own. OK here's what i
do. Cat on carpet so his claws have a grip on something, left hand on scruff and
lift slightly, without detaching feet from carpet, to get him at a slight
disadvantage. Syringe filled with CS in right fist, use syringe to lever his
mouth open gently and then give a slow squirt down side of mouth. Stop if he
doesn't swallow. Let him close his mouth, massage his throat to get him to
finish swallowing. You don't want to drown him. 
Good Luck,
Tony

Jan wrote:
 
 My cat (neutered male) just finished his second set of antibiotics. He
 still pees without much coming out and he licks himself (no delicate way
 to put it)  it seems to be irritated STILL. This has been going on for
 over a month. Anyway I would like to try the CS on him. How much and how
 often do folks recommend and how strong of a solution in PPM?
 Thanks,
 Janet



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CSCS in ear : dizziness

2002-05-24 Thread Tony Moody
Yesterday I woke up with the beginings of a cold so I took CS during the day. I
also poured some CS into one ear while standing with my head tilted. I very soon
became disorientated, dizzy and slightly nauseous. My vision kept on floating
away to one side and then snapping back like a film jumping at the movies
(remember those?). I couldn't stand that for very long so tilted head upright.
The effects went away immediately. A while later I tried it again in the other
ear and no effect at all. 

Has anyone else experienced anything like this? 

Tony


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CS Distilled Water

2002-05-24 Thread larry tankersley
Dear List... I get tired of hearing folks repeating what may be nothing
more than 'urban myths' regarding such things as mineral leaching caused
by DW,or drinking water with a meal inhibits your ability to digest
properly,etc.
 Below is DR Weils take on DW,but there are no references to studies ,so
as far as I'm concerned it just another opinion if not referenced to
science. QUESTION.; Does anyone know of a site that deals with such
questions and provides the references to the studies that make it more
than 'EDUCATED OPINION'??
Published 12/19/2001)
First of all, let me review for the record what distilled water is —
it's water that has been turned into steam so its impurities are left
behind. The steam is then condensed to make pure water. The process of
distillation kills and removes virtually all bacteria, viruses, heavy
metals, and other organic and inorganic contaminants. Once distilled,
the water is as pure as water can reasonably be. 
For reasons I don't understand, any number of myths — some quite
extreme — have grown up over the years about distilled water. A quick
Internet search today will take you to sites that put forth such views
as distilled water leads to early death. Nonsense. One claim holds
that distillation removes all of water's beneficial minerals. While it's
true that distillation removes minerals as well as various contaminants
from water, we don't know that the human body can readily absorb
minerals from water. We get our minerals from food, not water. By one
manufacturer's estimate, you would have to drink 676 eight-ounce glasses
of tap water in Boston to reach the RDA for calcium. 
Your question as to whether distilled water leaches minerals out of the
body reflects another persistent myth. While pure water helps to remove
minerals from the body that cells have eliminated or not used, it does
not leach out minerals that have become part of your body's cell
structure. Neither does distilled water cause your teeth to deteriorate,
a false claim made by a filter manufacturer looking to boost sales. As
far as acidity goes, distilled water is close to a neutral pH and has no
effect on the body's acid/base balance.
I hope I've set your mind at ease. Distilled water not only isn't
dangerous, it's the purest form of water. It's also the kind of water I
drink. 
Dr. Andrew Weil



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RE: CSBill to Boost Industry Fees That Fund FDA

2002-05-24 Thread Ed Kasper
My thinking on that is that only with huge fees and much red tape can the
industry keep out the competition

Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist  Medicinal Herbalist
http://HappyHerbalist.com  kombu...@happyherbalist.com


  -Original Message-
  From: Gary Green [mailto:lim...@pc.jaring.my]
  Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:19 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSBill to Boost Industry Fees That Fund FDA


  On Friday, May 24, 2002, at 08:56 PM, Connie wrote:


With little public discussion and limited debate on Capitol Hill,
Congress is
moving to substantially expand the program through which companies pay
large
fees to the Food and Drug Administration to review their new drug
applications -- making the agency increasingly dependent on the
businesses
that it regulates.
END QUOTE


  Just business as usual from the people that gave you the Lone-Nut theory
and the Magic-Bullet.



Re: CSThe Law

2002-05-24 Thread Joyce Inouye

http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jinouy01/faith.html



I am seeing a pattern on this list ...everyone for some strange reason
seems to believe that the God of the old testament isn't the same as the God
of the new testament.  I can assure you that Jesus in no way wanted to do
away with the law.  That is why he made appearances throughout the old
testament to different people.  That is why Genesis 1:1 is speaking of him.
That is the beauty of the bible.  I do understand that many words in the
bible are very confusing to the unsaved person.but don't be fooled into
thinking that the old testament law has been done away with.  The only one
who believes that is Man.not God.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

I hope that no one here is under the impression that Jesus made his first
appearance when he was born as a man 2000 years ago

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord,
which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain
of the water of life freely.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the
last.

Jesus made many many appearances in the old testamentthe law still
applies.don't count on your childhood baptism to save you.don't
count on how wonderful your mother is...don't believe that you will
come back again as someone else...{reincarnation}..that is simply
not going to happen.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the
judgment:

and don't believe that because you have given to charities..or that you
are a nice person.because that won't save you either

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to
his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the
Holy Ghost;
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:
it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good
works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them

I hope this helps someone..Robb


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RE: CSCS in ear : dizziness

2002-05-24 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hello Tony,

Introducing liquid into the external ear canal has profound effects on the
CNS.  Using cold or warm water is used to diagnose certain types of brain
injuries.  The effect is more probably related to liquid temperature
rather than CS.

Your experience, since it was unilateral, could be related to a condition in
that ear; possibly the semicircular canals.  You did tilt your head.  This
can normally cause dizziness.   You might want to have a medical pro
checkitout.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS in ear : dizziness

Yesterday I woke up with the beginings of a cold so I took CS during the
day. I
also poured some CS into one ear while standing with my head tilted. I very
soon
became disorientated, dizzy and slightly nauseous. My vision kept on
floating
away to one side and then snapping back like a film jumping at the movies
(remember those?). I couldn't stand that for very long so tilted head
upright.
The effects went away immediately. A while later I tried it again in the
other
ear and no effect at all.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Tony


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Re: CSgrey matter

2002-05-24 Thread Jack Dayton
Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to  Larry's post that you have never
attended a Silva Mind Control program.  The mind can be powerfull tool.

Jack

 From: Gary Green lim...@pc.jaring.my
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:10:47 +0800
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS DISTILLED WATER.
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:38:29 -0700
 
 On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 05:12 AM, larry tankersley wrote:
 
 In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This amazing
 technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a
 diagnostic and therapeutic tool.
 
 After reading this sentence I think anyone with two grey cells to rub
 together will hit the delete button.  No credibility what so ever.


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Re: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread Jack Dayton
Al ya hafta do is keep tha gosh durn lid down. :-)

Jack

 From: bonnie schmidlkofer bschm...@ij.net
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:24:28 -0400
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSFor cats?
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:26:19 -0700
 
 Thank goodness I've never owned a toilet-water-drinking dog...
 
 Bonnie


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Re: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread bonnie schmidlkofer
 From: Jack Dayton

 Al ya hafta do is keep tha gosh durn lid down. :-)

 Jack

And keeping the bathroom door closed so they can't even get in there helps
like the dickens too.

Bonnie


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Re: CSgrey matter

2002-05-24 Thread AVRA / Jason
Jack:

I'm aware of the work that Jose Silva did with the U.S. Army...  I have not
attended a program seminar, but I am very, very interested in a first hand
account...  Perhaps you might be able to comment further ( maybe on the OT
list? ).

Thank You!

Jason

- Original Message -
From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSgrey matter


 Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to  Larry's post that you have never
 attended a Silva Mind Control program.  The mind can be powerfull tool.

 Jack

  From: Gary Green lim...@pc.jaring.my
  Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:10:47 +0800
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS DISTILLED WATER.
  Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:38:29 -0700
 
  On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 05:12 AM, larry tankersley wrote:
 
  In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This
amazing
  technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a
  diagnostic and therapeutic tool.
 
  After reading this sentence I think anyone with two grey cells to rub
  together will hit the delete button.  No credibility what so ever.


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CSThe demise of common sense

2002-05-24 Thread John Reeder
OBITUARY For Mr. COMMON SENSE!

Today we mourn the passing of an old friend, by the name of Common Sense.

Common Sense lived a long life but died in the United States from heart
failure on the brink of the new millennium.

No one really knows how old he was, since his birth records were long ago
lost in bureaucratic red tape. He selflessly devoted his life to service in
schools, hospitals, homes, factories helping folks get jobs done without
fanfare and foolishness. For decades, petty rules, silly laws, and frivolous
lawsuits held no power over Common Sense. He was credited with cultivating
such valued lessons as to know when to come in out of the rain, why the
early bird gets the worm, and that life isn't always fair.

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more
than you earn), reliable parenting strategies (the adults are in charge, not
the kids), and it's okay to come in second.

A veteran of the Industrial Revolution, the Great Depression, and the
Technological Revolution, Common Sense survived cultural and educational
trends including body piercing, whole language, and new math. But his
health declined when he became infected with the
If-it-only-helps-one-person-it's-worth-it virus. In recent decades his
waning strength proved no match for the ravages of well intentioned but
overbearing regulations.


He watched in pain as good people became ruled by self-seeking lawyers.  His
health rapidly deteriorated when schools endlessly implemented
zero-tolerance policies. Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual
harassment for kissing a classmate, a teen suspended for taking a swig of
mouthwash after lunch, and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly
student only worsened his condition. It declined even further when schools
had to get parental consent to administer aspirin to a student but could not
inform the parent when a female student was pregnant or wanted an abortion.

Finally, Common Sense lost his will to live as the Ten Commandments became
contraband, churches became businesses, criminals received better treatment
than victims, and federal judges stuck their noses in everything from the
Boy Scouts to professional sports. Finally, when a woman, failed to realize
that a steaming cup of coffee was hot, was awarded a huge settlement, Common
Sense threw in the towel.

As the end neared, Common Sense drifted in and out of logic but was kept
informed of developments regarding questionable regulations such as those
for low flow toilets, rocking chairs, and stepladders.


Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife
Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason. He is
survived by two stepbrothers: My Rights, and Ima Whiner. Not many attended
his funeral because so few realized he was gone.

-Author Unknown



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Re: CSThe demise of common sense

2002-05-24 Thread Jack Dayton
Thanks John, I needed that.
I will forward it to all of the people that I know!

Jack



 From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:54:45 -0700
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSThe demise of common sense
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:02:42 -0700
 
 OBITUARY For Mr. COMMON SENSE!


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RE: CSThe Law

2002-05-24 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Historically manipulated extraterrestrial propaganda.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Joyce Inouye [mailto:jinou...@ccsf.cc.ca.us]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:14 PM
To: Robb Allen
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Law


http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jinouy01/faith.html



I am seeing a pattern on this list ...everyone for some strange reason
seems to believe that the God of the old testament isn't the same as the
God
of the new testament.  I can assure you that Jesus in no way wanted to do
away with the law.  That is why he made appearances throughout the old
testament to different people.  That is why Genesis 1:1 is speaking of him.
That is the beauty of the bible.  I do understand that many words in the
bible are very confusing to the unsaved person.but don't be fooled into
thinking that the old testament law has been done away with.  The only one
who believes that is Man.not God.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

I hope that no one here is under the impression that Jesus made his first
appearance when he was born as a man 2000 years ago

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord,
which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain
of the water of life freely.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and
the
last.

Jesus made many many appearances in the old testamentthe law still
applies.don't count on your childhood baptism to save you.don't
count on how wonderful your mother is...don't believe that you will
come back again as someone else...{reincarnation}..that is simply
not going to happen.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the
judgment:

and don't believe that because you have given to charities..or that you
are a nice person.because that won't save you either

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to
his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the
Holy Ghost;
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves:
it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good
works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them

I hope this helps someone..Robb


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Re: CSgrey matter

2002-05-24 Thread harsha godavari
Jack:
 I heard about it a long time ago. I had a feeling that it went to the
la la land along with EST. Is it still going on?

Regards
Harsha Godavari

Jack Dayton wrote:

 Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to  Larry's post that you have never
 attended a Silva Mind Control program.  The mind can be powerfull tool.

 Jack


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Re: CSgrey matter

2002-05-24 Thread Jack Dayton
Well I really don't, it was 1973 when the wife and I first attended,
at that time it was advertised in the local newspaper.

Jack


 Jack:
 I heard about it a long time ago. I had a feeling that it went to the
 la la land along with EST. Is it still going on?
 
 Regards
 Harsha Godavari
 
 Jack Dayton wrote:
 
 Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to  Larry's post that you have never
 attended a Silva Mind Control program.  The mind can be powerfull tool.
 
 Jack


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Re: CSFor cats?

2002-05-24 Thread wolfcreek1
 How much and how often do folks recommend and how strong of a solution in
PPM?

Hi Janet ~

After two rounds of antibiotics, he may have a superinfection.  Cats usually
love yogurt, which would help if this is the case.  CS is always my choice
for antibiotic over any traditional antibiotics.  Any PPM should work.
We've used 1 ppm to 500 ppm and they all have eliminated the bacteria,
virus, or fungi we've put them to the test to.

As others have said, you can give it with a syringe, orally, put it in his
waterer (straight or diluted), or in his food.  All of these methods will
work, just depends on what's best/easiest for you.  Keep an eye on him and
if you don't notice improvement, dose him a little more CS, but my guess is
you will see improvement.

Julie  Critters


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Re: CSThe Law

2002-05-24 Thread Gary Green


On Saturday, May 25, 2002, at 03:14 AM, Joyce Inouye wrote:

I am seeing a pattern on this list ...everyone for some strange 
reason
seems to believe that the God of the old testament isn't the same as 
the God

of the new testament.


Could we please keep superstition and cults off this list?  I, for one, 
find it embarrassing that supposedly intelligent human beings continue 
to suspend logic and choose to delude themselves with a big daddy in the 
sky watching over them.  Keep it in the closet where it belongs.




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RE: CSThe Law

2002-05-24 Thread John Reeder
The trouble is (IMHO), folks like you keep the strand going. Drop the
subject and it will disappear. The subject was accidently dropped on the
list some time ago and people keep responding to the reponses. Your response
generates more responses. Keep your response in the closet where it belongs
too.

John

-Original Message-
From: Gary Green [mailto:lim...@pc.jaring.my]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Law



On Saturday, May 25, 2002, at 03:14 AM, Joyce Inouye wrote:

 I am seeing a pattern on this list ...everyone for some strange
 reason
 seems to believe that the God of the old testament isn't the same as
 the God
 of the new testament.

Could we please keep superstition and cults off this list?  I, for one,
find it embarrassing that supposedly intelligent human beings continue
to suspend logic and choose to delude themselves with a big daddy in the
sky watching over them.  Keep it in the closet where it belongs.



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Re: CSThe Law

2002-05-24 Thread Catherine Creel
Hi Gary,


  You said:


I, for one, 
find it embarrassing that supposedly intelligent human beings continue 
to suspend logic and choose to delude themselves with a big daddy in the 
sky watching over them.  Keep it in the closet where it belongs.


  I'd actually like to see us be tolerant of the things that are
meaningful to others, even if meaningless to us.  After all,
most of want to be able to come out of the closet with CS
and other non-conventional treatments, and take issue with 
those who try to limit or eliminate our mention of them.

  Though I don't see this list as the appropropriate place
for ongoing discussions about things other than CS, a little
tolerance, understanding, and forgiveness for being human
would be really nice.

  Regards,
Catherine



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CSNew Subscriber

2002-05-24 Thread Richard Sobe
Hello,

My name is Richard Sobe. I recently became interested in Colloidal Silver and 
Colloidal Gold while searching the internet for a lower priced Clark Zapper. I 
have had a viral/fungal cold since mid February, been to the D.O. four times, 
spent $100 on visits over a five week period, took three different kinds of 
antibiotics and still wasn't cured. This somewhat aggravated me to the point of 
searching for a better solution to my health problem. The third time I returned 
to the doctor I had reiterated that I had been in contact with an extremely 
large concentration of Black Mold so he gave me an antibiotic designed 
specifically for that but after taking the course of meds, I still wasn't 
completely cured. Being how I do not have insurance he was kind enough to give 
me the medicines out of the sample stock but it didn't matter because they 
didn't work. Don't get me wrong here, part of what was ailing me was gone, but 
the chronic lung problem wasn't. This concerned me to the point of thinking 
what I got can't be cured (I recall reading that somewhere on the web) 
completely to where the patient suffering from a Black Mold infection would 
have to be on a lifelong prescription to antibiotics. Well with my current 
situation of being an unemployed single parent of two, that solution was 
unacceptable. Early on in my sickness I found some information about Dr. Hulda 
Clark's kidney and liver cleanse so I downloaded it and printed it. I gave it 
to my chiropractor to ask her opinion of if it was safe to use those herbs and 
she said it would be fine. I got a copy of Dr. Clark's Cure for all Diseases 
from my library and started reading about how to make a Zapper. After searching 
on the web for Zappers and finding many different models and prices I found 
some of the companies selling Zappers sold Colloidal Silver. I did research on 
the C.S., looking for positive and negative things about it. The worst thing I 
found about ingesting silver was a woman who was quite bluish/gray in 
appearance. She had used some nose drops back in the 50's for some years while 
a young child and by the time she was 14, she had argyria. From what I have 
found this is caused by silver salts and not from pure colloidal silver. So 
here I am asking all of you:

how long you have been taking C.S.
if you have changed colors
if you know of anyone who has changed colors
what it takes to o.d. on C.S. to be able to turn colors (so I don't, of course)
how long it takes for this to happen to someone
if it is true that the ionic silver when mixed with chloride becomes silver 
chloride (silver salt)
is the C.S. I am making with my 27V battery setup is safe
what is the safest/affordable way to make C.S. for my own personal use
does anyone use a Zapper and if so, how has it worked for you
what is the stock market going to do in the next six months (just kidding, I 
had to let all of you know I do have a sense of humor ;~))
and anything else that can ease my mind that I am not poisoning myself and I 
won't look like a smurf in 5 years from the repeated use of this stuff. I have 
started using the C.S. that I bought out of a health food store on Monday, May 
20th 2002 and I built my own Zapper on the 21st and started using it right 
away. I started making my own C.S. with just three 9V batteries, the clip on 
. silver leads and distilled water on Wednesday the 22nd. It is now Friday 
and I can say that I feel like 90% of my chest mold congestion has been 
destroyed. I started with a two teaspoon a day dose of the C.S. and then upped 
it to four tablespoon a day dose when I didn't feel like the junk in my lungs 
was leaving. I believe it is a combination of both the Zapper and the C.S. that 
has helped me, although I burned out the timer chip in my Zapper on Thursday 
afternoon and went without it until Friday afternoon, yet continued to get 
better. I did have two cold sores that healed rather quickly and I went through 
the detox stuff with the diarrhea on the second day and on the third day I had 
a heightened sense of perception and happiness. I took it too far though and 
started staying up later and later and have the feeling of sleep deprivation so 
I know I need to keep my normal sleep routine. Boy I sure can ramble, huh? 
Well, I would appreciate any knowledgeable feedback and I will continue to 
report in with my findings as I reach them.
Thank You,  

Richard Sobe

P.S. I just received some Colloidal Gold today and began taking it at 1 TBS/day.