Re: CSFwd: Fw: Symptoms associated w/ neck

2002-06-05 Thread Gary Green


On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 01:17 AM, M. G. Devour wrote:


And the whole point of my comment was that you and Gary both spoke your
mind while being *thoroughly* considerate of the feelings of others.

(snip)

Hee hee... some times you just can't win.



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Re: CSFwd: Fw: Symptoms associated w/ neck

2002-06-05 Thread Gary Green


On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 01:27 AM, piaffe1...@aol.com wrote:

My most sincere apologies if I offended in any way! I only meant to 
suggest

that some, not all, chiropractors, used a technique that might not be
appropriate.  I am in full agreement with DR Green regarding better 
ways.

Sincerely,
Heather Leigh Akers


None given, none taken.

That Dr title is a real hang-up too with some people.  Actually it means 
teacher and there are few practitioners of any type that deserve it.


One other thing I wanted to say on this subject, who ever suggested that 
it's TOS might also be right.  Impossible to tell without an 
examination.  Good call that one.  TOS is a bit more uncommon that a 
herniation though.  Someone knowledgeable in a good release type of 
massage or trigger point work certainly wouldn't hurt actually it 
will hurt but it won't damage.


Anyway, warm and fuzzies all around for now.

Gary



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Re: CSRe: CS blood stream

2002-06-05 Thread M. G. Devour
Noel writes:
 The dog that was almost killed== Was he a volunteer? Dominion over
 animals does not mean that human kind can willfully do anything to an
 animal. Dominion means humankind are caretakers of animals not forced
 torture. Animals just like humans have dignity,and rights to live in
 peace.

Most everything I remember from Brooks involved human volunteers and
pets that belonged to staff members. If that qualifies as
volunteering then the answer is yes. It doesn't seem to be their
custom to do research that results in the destruction of animals.

That said, Animal Rights involves far too much of politics and
religion to be an appropriate subject for the silver list. If anybody
wants to debate the issue, take it to the silver-off-topic-list...

http://www.silverlist.org/OffTopic.html

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSRe: CS blood stream

2002-06-05 Thread CKing001
Ever know a dog that wasn't a volunteer?
Now cats, an entirely different attitude...
Chuck
An old African proverb :
All that happens when two elephants fight is the grass gets hurt. 


On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:43:08 -0400 (EDT), no...@webtv.net (Noel White) wrote:

The dog that was almost killed== Was he a volunteer? Dominion over
animals does not mean that human kind can willfully do anything to an
animal. Dominion means humankind are caretakers of animals not forced
torture. Animals just like humans have dignity,and rights to live in
peace.

Noel


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Re: CSEMX ceramics

2002-06-05 Thread Kevin Nolan
Thanks for the pic, John. May I ask what your experience with the
RingStone(s) has been?

Kevin Nolan

- Original Message -
From: John A. Stanley j...@natel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: CSEMX ceramics


 In article 006c01c20bcb$7feadc00$71151...@na6gfcpgl5jhrr,
 Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 Thanks Jonathan. What interests me is whether the EMX ceramics are simply
 acting as magnets. Could you tell me whether they attract steel objects
for
 instance, and whether they are porous and act as water filters or not?
What
 I am suggesting here is you may get the same results at a much cheaper
price
 by using ordinary ferrite permanent magnets, because maybe that's what
they
 are?

 I have an EMX ceramic RingStone (a ceramic toroid), and it has no
 effect on a compass or the display on my computer monitor. To me, it
 just looks like ordinary high-fired porcelain. As I understand it, the
 clay it's made from is innoculated with the EM microorganism blend, but
 I fail to see how that would have any effect on the finished fired
 product. Here's a picture of it:

 http://207.177.74.117/ringstone.jpg


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Re: CSEMX ceramics

2002-06-05 Thread John A. Stanley
In article 00d501c20c94$35da0950$5c581...@na6gfcpgl5jhrr,
Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Thanks for the pic, John. May I ask what your experience with the
RingStone(s) has been?

I used it to treat drinking water, and I didn't notice a thing. Of
course, I should also add that I don't notice anything from treating
drinking water with a powerful magnetic brick, either.

-- 
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Re: CSsounds like carpal tunnel

2002-06-05 Thread TJ Garland


I have lots more info from the current patent holder, who is trying to 
protect it from the large marketing companies theft.



TJ Garland, CMO supplier
  there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.

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RE: CSFwd: Fw: Symptoms associated w/ neck

2002-06-05 Thread Heather King (LCA)
My osteopath is very much like my chiropractor, in that there is definite 
manipulation. Some of the positions  effects are the same. My osteopath tends 
to be more aggressive with some manipulations. I have chronic soft tissue 
tension in my scapular region/neck from working at a computer all day  my 
osteopath is the only one who is able to keep me limber enough there to 
function without positional migraines. He is a medical doctor who does 
prescribe medications, but he also does pressure-point therapy, cranial 
manipulation and spinal adjustments.

Heather

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFwd: Fw: Symptoms associated w/ neck

Speaking of chiros,  someone in my area just opened up an osteopathy
clinc, charging only ¥2,500 for a 50-minute session.   I have read a bit
about osteo in Weil's Spontaneous Healing, but he referred only to
cranial manipulation.  I wonder whether someone expert in this topic can
reply directly r.e. what I should request/expect in a visit to a typical
osteopath.   I have no special problems but would enjoy getting tuned
up.

JBB



piaffe1...@aol.com wrote:
 
 In a message dated 6/4/02 10:56:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
 mdev...@eskimo.com writes:
 
  With so many ways to offend and be offended in the
  crudeness of text, it's great to see folks balancing expression with
  kindness so well! Good work.
   
 My most sincere apologies if I offended in any way! I only meant to suggest
 that some, not all, chiropractors, used a technique that might not be
 appropriate.  I am in full agreement with DR Green regarding better ways.
 Sincerely,
 Heather Leigh Akers
 
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Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-06-05 Thread seritaw
Hi all,
Wouldn't it take CS stronger than 20 PPM for Hep C? I can't judge how
strong the mixture is. Is there some formula that can be followed?

Jan - are you getting your enzymes followed?
Serita


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Re: CSRe: CS blood stream

2002-06-05 Thread Noel White
Staff members may volunteer but animals of staff members were forced by
their owners to submit to animal experimentation. There are federal
regulations requiring rules and protocols for animal experimentation.
Were these followed?
Currently 75% of medical schools have ceased animal experimentation.
CS and animal experimentation was in the body of the post message.
Animal experimentation can be a religious or political subject, but my
post concerned animal rights from a legal and natural law approach.
If a child at school or at camp was forced by a superior for a medical
experiment, the parents would be devastated. But of course, animals are
just machines (Descartes) with no feelings or emotions.

Noel


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CSESOPHAGEAL CANCER

2002-06-05 Thread charles shutford
Has any one had any experience with esophageal cancer and can cs help it?  

My sister in law has just been diagnosed and does not want to take chemo or 
radiation am looking for altentative treatment for her.  

Rusty


CSRain soft water........

2002-06-05 Thread John Osowiecki
Hello all,
I have an off-topic question for you.  Are any of you familiar with rain soft 
water filtration and softening system?  www.rainsoft.com .  A friend of mine 
has a daughter with severe excema and icthyosis vulgaris, and is interested in 
ordering this system to be installed in her house so her water is kinder to 
her daughters skin.  This units cost $3,800.00.  What is your 
opinion..I just love to pick all your brilliant minds.  You can email 
me offlist with the info so we don't clog up the list.  Thanks so much.

God Bless,
Christiane


Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-06-05 Thread Trem
Hi Serita,

We have a couple of customers that had Hepatitis C go into remission using
CS of less than 15 PPM.

For measuring strength use a PWT meter for a relatively close idea of what
you have.   See   http://www.silvergen.com/ppm.htm

Hope this helps.

Trem
www.silvergen.com


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From: seri...@webtv.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


 Hi all,
 Wouldn't it take CS stronger than 20 PPM for Hep C? I can't judge how
 strong the mixture is. Is there some formula that can be followed?

 Jan - are you getting your enzymes followed?
 Serita


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Re: CSESOPHAGEAL CANCER

2002-06-05 Thread Noel White
Go to Google.com and search for POLYMVA and MGN3=== also geta copy of
ALternative Medicine Magazine it has lists of excellent AM cancer
clinics.

Noel


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RE: CSESOPHAGEAL CANCER

2002-06-05 Thread John Reeder
Hello Rusty,

Check out, The Cure for All Cancers by Dr Hulda Clark. Can be found on
www.Amazon.com.
I loaned my 'Clark' type zapper to the man across the street who was going
down for the third
count, chemo again and again. His blood count was at 8.3 and they were ready
to start the
transfusion routine again. Two days later his count was up to 11.2 and now
he is feeling great,
and has become a zapper believer (along with cs).

John
  -Original Message-
  From: charles shutford [mailto:rus...@charter.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:39 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSESOPHAGEAL CANCER


  Has any one had any experience with esophageal cancer and can cs help it?

  My sister in law has just been diagnosed and does not want to take chemo
or radiation am looking for altentative treatment for her.

  Rusty


RE: CS3r batch of cs

2002-06-05 Thread John Reeder
Or www.wishgranted.com

-Original Message-
From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


Hi Serita,

We have a couple of customers that had Hepatitis C go into remission using
CS of less than 15 PPM.

For measuring strength use a PWT meter for a relatively close idea of what
you have.   See   http://www.silvergen.com/ppm.htm

Hope this helps.

Trem
www.silvergen.com


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From: seri...@webtv.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


 Hi all,
 Wouldn't it take CS stronger than 20 PPM for Hep C? I can't judge how
 strong the mixture is. Is there some formula that can be followed?

 Jan - are you getting your enzymes followed?
 Serita


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Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-06-05 Thread Trem
Hi John,

Sure, you can buy these meters all over the internet from many
entrepreneurs.  The bottom line is this..NO ONE sells them at factory
price.  We do.  Why pay more?

End of story.

Trem


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From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: CS3r batch of cs


 Or www.wishgranted.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:16 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


 Hi Serita,

 We have a couple of customers that had Hepatitis C go into remission using
 CS of less than 15 PPM.

 For measuring strength use a PWT meter for a relatively close idea of what
 you have.   See   http://www.silvergen.com/ppm.htm

 Hope this helps.

 Trem
 www.silvergen.com


 - Original Message -
 From: seri...@webtv.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:53 PM
 Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


  Hi all,
  Wouldn't it take CS stronger than 20 PPM for Hep C? I can't judge how
  strong the mixture is. Is there some formula that can be followed?
 
  Jan - are you getting your enzymes followed?
  Serita
 
 
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Re: CSRe: CS blood stream

2002-06-05 Thread Brooks Bradley

Dear Chuck,
Just for the record, the dog involved in this procedure was a
stage IV cancer victim..this ancillary
protocol was one---among severalof our last-ditch efforts to save
her.  It was not an experiment.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 17:20:53 +, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

 Anybody have a link handy for Brooks Bradley's group's studies of blood
 levels vs. time for dogs... and something else that led to the great
 Gatorade experiment?
 
 Mike D.

 Does this help?
 Chuck
 More hay, Trigger? No thanks, Roy, I'm stuffed!
 --
 For those contemplating the use of CS in an
 enema-type protocol, a consideration might be in order.  We found,
 several years ago, during some absorption evalutions involving dogs and
 human volunteers.that the addition of  5% to 10% DMSO proved to be
 of pronounced assistance in accelerating the CS absorption;
 particularly so in the lower colon.  Additionally, we found the use of
 so-called clustered/micro-crystal (distilled prior to orientation), to
 be immensely helpful for achieving desireable results.  While several
 different methods were employed to achieve crystal-like orientation,
 the use of a simple funnel having two small ceramic magnets ( (+) facing
 on one and (-) facing on the other) taped to the lower throat section
 (and generating a clock-wise vortex while pouring).to furnish about
 80% of the effectivity of systems costing hundreds of dollars.  Even
 just one-pass availed increases of 75% in dyne number
 increases..in some cases.
 CAUTION:  For experimenters considering the use of
 H202.even at 3%;  there is some element of risk involved- most
 especially if a high colonic type of enema irrigation is
 contemplated.  We, almost, killed a dog during such an
 evaluation.through the generation of a pressure-block which occurred
 when the original liquid insertion navigated past a hard-stool section
 and generated a foam-filled pressure-front.  Only a very quick
 bloat-relief (mechanically generated) type protocol saved the animal
 from suffocation..as he suffered immediate, life-thereatening,
 pulmonary distress from the gas-distension insult.  The use of H202 for
 such a protocol IS NOT recommended for the untrained non-professional.
 This is, simply, our considered opinion.  While the odds may not be high
 for such an occurrence, they certainly existespecially in the
 presence of an extensive, quantitative,  anaerobic field.
 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley

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Re: CSRe: CS blood stream

2002-06-05 Thread Brooks Bradley

Dear Chuck,
Just for the record, the dog involved in this procedure was a
stage IV cancer victim..this ancillary
protocol was one---among severalof our last-ditch efforts to save
her.  It was not an experiment.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 17:20:53 +, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

 Anybody have a link handy for Brooks Bradley's group's studies of blood
 levels vs. time for dogs... and something else that led to the great
 Gatorade experiment?
 
 Mike D.

 Does this help?
 Chuck
 More hay, Trigger? No thanks, Roy, I'm stuffed!
 --
 For those contemplating the use of CS in an
 enema-type protocol, a consideration might be in order.  We found,
 several years ago, during some absorption evalutions involving dogs and
 human volunteers.that the addition of  5% to 10% DMSO proved to be
 of pronounced assistance in accelerating the CS absorption;
 particularly so in the lower colon.  Additionally, we found the use of
 so-called clustered/micro-crystal (distilled prior to orientation), to
 be immensely helpful for achieving desireable results.  While several
 different methods were employed to achieve crystal-like orientation,
 the use of a simple funnel having two small ceramic magnets ( (+) facing
 on one and (-) facing on the other) taped to the lower throat section
 (and generating a clock-wise vortex while pouring).to furnish about
 80% of the effectivity of systems costing hundreds of dollars.  Even
 just one-pass availed increases of 75% in dyne number
 increases..in some cases.
 CAUTION:  For experimenters considering the use of
 H202.even at 3%;  there is some element of risk involved- most
 especially if a high colonic type of enema irrigation is
 contemplated.  We, almost, killed a dog during such an
 evaluation.through the generation of a pressure-block which occurred
 when the original liquid insertion navigated past a hard-stool section
 and generated a foam-filled pressure-front.  Only a very quick
 bloat-relief (mechanically generated) type protocol saved the animal
 from suffocation..as he suffered immediate, life-thereatening,
 pulmonary distress from the gas-distension insult.  The use of H202 for
 such a protocol IS NOT recommended for the untrained non-professional.
 This is, simply, our considered opinion.  While the odds may not be high
 for such an occurrence, they certainly existespecially in the
 presence of an extensive, quantitative,  anaerobic field.
 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley

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Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-06-05 Thread Acmeair
trem,   i have a buddy, viet nam medivac helicopter guy that got blown out
of the air by mortar, and has hep c from blood transfusions. the VA is
stonewalling him cause he can't prove he wasn't a IV  user before he went
in.  give the poor sucker a break, totally disabled, with hep c, and they
won't help.

could you contact me, off  line if you prefer, but i would like to get this
guy going on the path. he, and my buddies, give me a bad time about jingling
like dimes with all the silver, but they are receptive. i'd sure appreciate
the help.

jim






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From: Trem t...@silvergen.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


 Hi Serita,

 We have a couple of customers that had Hepatitis C go into remission using
 CS of less than 15 PPM.

 For measuring strength use a PWT meter for a relatively close idea of what
 you have.   See   http://www.silvergen.com/ppm.htm

 Hope this helps.

 Trem
 www.silvergen.com


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 From: seri...@webtv.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:53 PM
 Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs





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RE: CS3r batch of cs

2002-06-05 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Folk,

Pardon my intrusion, but you may find this useful.

Somewhere in the archive is the story of three ex special forces tough-guys
who decided to give CS a try.  They ate some really bad meat;---green hairy
stuff.  All got the maximum heaves except the CS drinker, and the others
were relieved after taking CS.

This might appeal to his military sentiments.

I have heard of it curing life-threatening Hep C in three weeks.  Remember;
if it is pure silver in very small particles floating in pure water, the
toxic dose is about 3.8 Grams [Not milligrams] per day.  That is roughly---I
forget the math---50 Gallons per day.  The water will do you more harm
before the silver.  That figure is from a John Hopkins PhD who did a large
literature review of the subject.  That reference is also somewhere in the
archives.  Bruce Marx, ND also has some reports about success with Hep C.

The CS will cost less than the value of the time spent filling out the VA
paperwork, even if they would treat him, and probably work better anyway.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs

trem,   i have a buddy, viet nam medivac helicopter guy that got blown out
of the air by mortar, and has hep c from blood transfusions. the VA is
stonewalling him cause he can't prove he wasn't a IV  user before he went
in.  give the poor sucker a break, totally disabled, with hep c, and they
won't help.

could you contact me, off  line if you prefer, but i would like to get this
guy going on the path. he, and my buddies, give me a bad time about jingling
like dimes with all the silver, but they are receptive. i'd sure appreciate
the help.

jim






- Original Message -
From: Trem t...@silvergen.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


 Hi Serita,

 We have a couple of customers that had Hepatitis C go into remission using
 CS of less than 15 PPM.

 For measuring strength use a PWT meter for a relatively close idea of what
 you have.   See   http://www.silvergen.com/ppm.htm

 Hope this helps.

 Trem
 www.silvergen.com


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 From: seri...@webtv.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:53 PM
 Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs





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