Re: CS>brewing ?

2002-08-21 Thread ronwilson
Wish to thank everyone for their help, shortened my learning curve.

Ken
You answered a question before I asked.

(During the next 24 hours, more dissolved ions will convert to crystals
or colloidal particles as well, so, the TE gets more pronounced as the CS
stabilizes over night.
 That happened and had me puzzled. Another puzzle, The over done batch had
definite light brown color when I put into to 2 jars  drained from tap on
tea jar. They darkened also over night but one is much darker than the
other. The silver must have settled out to some degree as one jar came from
the bottom half and the other from top half. Would smaller particles do this
also. Checking clear batch for TE I could not see any change top to bottom
in jar after 2 days setting.


- Original Message -
From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: CS>brewing ?


>   Sound like last batch was on "track" but could have run longer.
> If the transformer setup controls current, the voltage will be lower as
the
> conductivity rises in the water once the system reaches it max current
draw
> setting of 1 ma.
>  17 volts isn't much to start with so the beginning ramp up to the
> controlled  current setting [where the voltage starts to decrease] could
> take a fair amount of time.
>
> That time follows the 'runaway' curve and can vary quite a bit...even by
> hours...depending on water quality and temperature. Timing batches without
> using current control and a consistant start point can be wildly
inaccurate.
>
> Moniter the current and voltage.  When it stabilizes at the max setting [1
> ma] and the voltage begins to drop...start timing at that point or moniter
> the voltage and stop it when you reach something like 4, 5 or 6
> volts...whatever voltage makes CS that looks good to you.
>  Ion production rate [PPM per minute] is a linear function of time from
the
> time that the max set current is reached, on.
> If current control is not used, ion production rate is something like an
> exponential curve , going faster and faster. [runaway]
>
> Ionic silver is silver 'dissolved] in water, or, a solution.
> Water has a saturation point after which ions will start to form crystals.
> At that point, the TE will become more and more pronounced.  The bubbler
> should prevent those crystals from getting too big, too fast.
>  I'm not sure just what the saturation point is...it doesn't seem to be a
> set quantity as both TE and conductivity can grow at the same time.  But,
> you'll mostly get ions in solution at first.
>
> During the next 24 hours, more dissolved ions will convert to crystals or
> colloidal particles as well, so, the TE gets more pronounced as the CS
> stabilizes over night.
>
> At 02:13 PM 1/19/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >Tried my first CS makeing. Kens posts on color and current helped. Still
> >need some expert opinion on result.
> >
> >Equipment is toy train speed control ( found in thrift store for $1.20)
> >claims 16 volts DC but produces 17.6 at all speed settings. Controls
current
> >flow. Coins 3/4 way into water set at 1 inch for first batch 3ma in quart
> >jar. 2 1/2 hours. Stirring with bubbler. Not perfectly clear with strong
TE,
> >definite taste. Some black particles in bottom of jar.
> >
> >Changed to gallon ice tea bottle, about 3/4 full, same settings, ran for
6
> >hours. got brown color, strong taste, strong TE. Lot of black clumps in
> >bottom of jar.
> >
> >Read Kens post that 1 5/8" spacing and low current flow was the way.
> >Increased coin spacing to about the 1 5/8" and set current to 1ma. Ran
for 4
> >hours, clear with week TE and taste. 6 or 8 small black particles in
bottom
> >of jar.
> >
> >Current flow was stable once set, never varied with increase in silver.
> >Seems that speed control gives constant current.
> >
> >My guess is first was close, second particles much to big and last is
mostly
> >ions. Is the ion one of any use.
> >
> >Welcome any comments.
> >Ron
> >
> >
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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread ronwilson
Will this thread never stop, What is to be gained?
- Original Message - 
From: "Catherine Creel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>mgda


> qec...@aol.com sputtered:
> 
> 
> < and try to make me the bad guy.  Mark my words if you do not learn 
> the hard way on this. >>
> 
> 
> [no text here as the sound of my uproarious laughter is too
> complicated and tedious to spell]
> 
> 
> 
>  You're mistaking my rejection of your way of communicating
> for defending conventional medicine. Is it a mistake, or is it
> a deliberate twisting of the facts?
> 
>   Again, you're making a complete fool of yourself.
> Frankly, how do we know you're not an FDA plant?
> You sound ridiculous enough to be one.
> 
>   Hmmm...
> 
> Catherine
> 
>   
> 
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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread Roy Thompson

Drinking colloidal silver certainly does make people more fiesty, doesn't
it? :)
And I just thought this was a tequila trait. ha ha


-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>mole/wart


Yes, folks, I've advised QEcara that "you sound  like you are a
backwoods hick" is an inappropriate remark, the likes of which can get
you booted from the list.

Aggressive behavior, personal attacks, inciteful remarks like that are
all against the rules.

Now let's all be patient while several hundred other people all catch
up with their mail and *not* respond to their untimely replies...


Thank you all.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CS>brewing ?

2002-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote
  Sound like last batch was on "track" but could have run longer.
If the transformer setup controls current, the voltage will be lower as the
conductivity rises in the water once the system reaches it max current draw
setting of 1 ma.
 17 volts isn't much to start with so the beginning ramp up to the
controlled  current setting [where the voltage starts to decrease] could
take a fair amount of time.

That time follows the 'runaway' curve and can vary quite a bit...even by
hours...depending on water quality and temperature. Timing batches without
using current control and a consistant start point can be wildly inaccurate.

Moniter the current and voltage.  When it stabilizes at the max setting [1
ma] and the voltage begins to drop...start timing at that point or moniter
the voltage and stop it when you reach something like 4, 5 or 6
volts...whatever voltage makes CS that looks good to you.
 Ion production rate [PPM per minute] is a linear function of time from the
time that the max set current is reached, on.
If current control is not used, ion production rate is something like an
exponential curve , going faster and faster. [runaway]

Ionic silver is silver 'dissolved] in water, or, a solution.
Water has a saturation point after which ions will start to form crystals.
At that point, the TE will become more and more pronounced.  The bubbler
should prevent those crystals from getting too big, too fast.
 I'm not sure just what the saturation point is...it doesn't seem to be a
set quantity as both TE and conductivity can grow at the same time.  But,
you'll mostly get ions in solution at first.

During the next 24 hours, more dissolved ions will convert to crystals or
colloidal particles as well, so, the TE gets more pronounced as the CS
stabilizes over night.

At 02:13 PM 1/19/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Tried my first CS makeing. Kens posts on color and current helped. Still
>need some expert opinion on result.
>
>Equipment is toy train speed control ( found in thrift store for $1.20)
>claims 16 volts DC but produces 17.6 at all speed settings. Controls current
>flow. Coins 3/4 way into water set at 1 inch for first batch 3ma in quart
>jar. 2 1/2 hours. Stirring with bubbler. Not perfectly clear with strong TE,
>definite taste. Some black particles in bottom of jar.
>
>Changed to gallon ice tea bottle, about 3/4 full, same settings, ran for 6
>hours. got brown color, strong taste, strong TE. Lot of black clumps in
>bottom of jar.
>
>Read Kens post that 1 5/8" spacing and low current flow was the way.
>Increased coin spacing to about the 1 5/8" and set current to 1ma. Ran for 4
>hours, clear with week TE and taste. 6 or 8 small black particles in bottom
>of jar.
>
>Current flow was stable once set, never varied with increase in silver.
>Seems that speed control gives constant current.
>
>My guess is first was close, second particles much to big and last is mostly
>ions. Is the ion one of any use.
>
>Welcome any comments.
>Ron
>
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Re: CS>brewing ?

2002-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote
  THe black particles are probably silver oxides that were blown off one
electrode by over agressive bubbles.  They won't hurt anything but slowing
the bubbler down will probably keep them stuck on the electrode where they
belong.
 Stirring should be gentle to the max.  It doesn't take very much water
motion at all. One to three fair sized bubbles per second should be enough,
or a slow stream of very small bubbles.
 For instance:
 A 7 watt night light bulb held very close to the bottom of the container
is enough to induce thermal stirring currents sufficient to distribute the
"ion cloud".  It's so little heat that an 8 oz container will only gain
about 5 degrees in 2 hours depending on room temperature...which, with
container surface area, determines heat dissipation from the surface of the
container.
Ken


At 02:13 PM 1/19/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Tried my first CS makeing. Kens posts on color and current helped. Still
>need some expert opinion on result.
>
>Equipment is toy train speed control ( found in thrift store for $1.20)
>claims 16 volts DC but produces 17.6 at all speed settings. Controls current
>flow. Coins 3/4 way into water set at 1 inch for first batch 3ma in quart
>jar. 2 1/2 hours. Stirring with bubbler. Not perfectly clear with strong TE,
>definite taste. Some black particles in bottom of jar.
>
>Changed to gallon ice tea bottle, about 3/4 full, same settings, ran for 6
>hours. got brown color, strong taste, strong TE. Lot of black clumps in
>bottom of jar.
>
>Read Kens post that 1 5/8" spacing and low current flow was the way.
>Increased coin spacing to about the 1 5/8" and set current to 1ma. Ran for 4
>hours, clear with week TE and taste. 6 or 8 small black particles in bottom
>of jar.
>
>Current flow was stable once set, never varied with increase in silver.
>Seems that speed control gives constant current.
>
>My guess is first was close, second particles much to big and last is mostly
>ions. Is the ion one of any use.
>
>Welcome any comments.
>Ron
>
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Re: CS>brewing

2002-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote


  The bubbler method is best.  You can run it a bit longer to get a heavier
TE.
 Coffee pot hot plates are way too hot.
 With the bubbler, you shouldn't need to heat at all.
 Heating does 2 things
1] increases intitial conductivity [already done by seeding]
2] induces thermal stirring currents as the water cools...or, if
contiuously heated, induces stiring currents as it heats [all done with the
bubbler.

Exceeding 120 deg F is likely to result in a yellow CS, but bubbling is
probably keeping the temperature down.
 You don't need the hot plate.
 Using cooler water tends to increase the TE. [particle to ion ratio]

Ken



At 12:26 PM 8/20/02 -0400, you wrote:
>
>I have been brewing different ways to see which way makes the 'best' CS
>solution (for me).  I would like some input from the 'experts' here who
>have made CS themselves.
>
>I am using 16 oz. distilled water, 3 nine-volts (which I change to 2
>nine-volts half way thru to lower the current), 2 - . silver wires, a
>coffee pot heat plate, and a fish bubbler (plus alligator clips, etc).
>I'm spiking the solution with premade CS (approx. 1/4 of the batch) to
>raise initial conductivity of the water.  I'm brewing without the bubbler
>until I see the yellow wisps start, then I start the bubbler and brew for
>another hour, stopping 1/2 way thru to clean the silver wires and
>disconnect one of the batteries (to lower the current flow).
>
>My main question is:
>
>I notice that when I make CS using the above method the solution is clear.
>Is the CS solution I'm making more dissolved silver than colloidal silver?
>Does the bubbler make the silver dissolve?  I hardly have any Tyndall
>effect at all; very very light.  And the taste is also light, but still
>there.
>
>I checked to make sure there was current flowing.  I don't have a fancy
>multimeter, just a little cheepy one.  But it does show that there is
>current flowing to the silver wires.
>
>When I do the same as above but DO NOT use the bubbler, the solution is
>yellow and the silver wires must be wiped off during the brewing (I wipe
>them off when I'm disconnecting one of the batteries - about 30 minutes
>into the brew).  The solution is much different/stronger in Tyndall, taste,
>color, etc.   than the bubbler version.
>
>Which way is the "best?"
>
>Thanks
>Christine
>
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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread Jeannie
I think people are trying to tell you that it is not bad to have such an
opinion, or to express it.  Many of us agree, at least to a large
extent.  What others are complaining about is the agressive way that you
express your opinions.

You earlier did the same thing to me.  It was fine to disagree with me,
but you were forceful and almost insulting.  I didn't respond, so the
"tempest" went away.  But you would convince more people of your
opinions if you were less emotional and forceful in expressing them, and
more kind and reasoning.  People aren't going to be convinced by being
attacked.

Jeannie

qec...@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:11:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ba...@netease.net writes:
>
>
>
>> How many days of 600 ppm colloidal silver would it take to purge
>> your system of contaminated thinking?
>
> You tell me.  Mark my words, my sweetie, you gonna learn what I
> said...i just think you need to be put into the situationand you
> will be.  IT will happen to you people, just as I say it willthere
> is more corruption in the medical industry than people think.

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Jeannie McReynolds
Oregon Coast



Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
  I tell you that you people are going to see from your own situations, how 
evil the medical community is.  Mark my words.  


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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
What it is, I hit the nail on the head.  This group is mainly older people, 
cranky because of sickness, and living in really wide open spaces.  Mark my 
words, you gonna learn the hard way about the medical community...soon.  The 
key words here are "MARK MY WORDS" as they have gone out of my mouth, into 
this email.


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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:11:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ba...@netease.net writes:


> How many days of 600 ppm colloidal silver would it take to purge your system 
> of contaminated thinking?
> 

You tell me.  Mark my words, my sweetie, you gonna learn what I said...i just 
think you need to be put into the situationand you will be.  IT will 
happen to you people, just as I say it willthere is more corruption in 
the medical industry than people think.


Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
How is calling them backwoods hicks an insult?  Unless they are backwoods 
hicks?  I don't get how that is such an insult.  


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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
I don't get how a doctor telling you to put garlic on a wound is something he 
should be paid for?  I don't get that.  He could have called you on the phone 
and told you that.


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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread Catherine Creel
<<  I tell you that you people are going to see from your own situations,
how evil the medical community is.  Mark my words.>>


  I think few here would dispute this, but it really has little to do with
the
experience being discussed.  Your anger can serve you well, or be wasted
on making yourself look foolish.  Choose your path.

Regards,
Catherine


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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
In a message dated 8/21/2002 12:26:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
a...@cybermesa.com writes:


> Be nice or you will likely encounter a local god. 
> 
I speak from experience.  I also have friends, and colleagues who have quite 
the stories to tell.  In addition, I know a handful of RNs (my line of work 
puts me in contact with medical "professionals") and I hear first hand what 
goes on.  When I say it, I know it to be true.  But if you do not see it, I 
suppose I cannot show it to you but I have a funny feeling that you who have 
spoken against me are going to be veered right into that very truth.  I am 
telling you factual, actuals.  You watch, your lives are going to be turned 
to see this fact...even as I speak it to you.  

If there are good doctors, they are slowly becoming extinct.


Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread Jeannie


qec...@aol.com wrote:

> How is calling them backwoods hicks an insult?  Unless they are backwoods
> hicks?  I don't get how that is such an insult.

Is that something you would like to be called?  If not, then don't call
others that.  And yes, I have heard others call you some names also.  This is
the problem with harsh words.  They get thrown back and forth, and then no
one is learning, only reacting.

Jeannie

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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread Erwin Hanke
Talk about your backwoods hicks.  You sound like you are the pot calling the
kettle black. I don't know which part of the rural, backwoods of this
country you came from, but obviously your little one room schoolhouse was so
understaffed with that one retarded girl who called herself a teacher, you
never were taught that calling someone a backwoods hick is like telling them
their elevator doesn't get even near the top floor.  But bumble on, it's a
free country where anyone can make a fool of themselves.

---Original Message---

How is calling them backwoods hicks an insult? Unless they are backwoods 
hicks? I don't get how that is such an insult. <><>

RE: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread Ivan Anderson
Look, nobody here disputes the fact that the medical profession in
many cases is worse than the disease, that big business is corrupt.
One would be a fool, however to tar all medicos with the same brush.
But you are just managing an argument to suit your own needs. There is
no dispute over the state of the medical industry, just as there is no
dispute over your rudeness and lack of care.

The problem was born when you came to this list not to learn, but to
instruct. How unfortunate then, that most of what you have related
here has been misinformed, and what a pity that you cannot see past
your ego enough to admit that.

All is not lost, thankfully... repent, apologise, and be well
[whatever your name is]!

Ivan.


-Original Message-
From: qec...@aol.com [mailto:qec...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2002 1:37 a.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>mole/wart



I speak from experience.  I also have friends, and colleagues who have
quite the stories to tell.  In addition, I know a handful of RNs (my
line of work puts me in contact with medical "professionals") and I
hear first hand what goes on.  When I say it, I know it to be true.
But if you do not see it, I suppose I cannot show it to you but I have
a funny feeling that you who have spoken against me are going to be
veered right into that very truth.  I am telling you factual, actuals.
You watch, your lives are going to be turned to see this fact...even
as I speak it to you.

If there are good doctors, they are slowly becoming extinct.


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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread d.linen
I think people are trying to tell you that it is not bad to have such an
opinion, or to express it.  Many of us agree, at least to a large
extent.  What others are complaining about is the agressive way that you
express your opinions. 

You earlier did the same thing to me.  It was fine to disagree with me,
but you were forceful and almost insulting.  I didn't respond, so
the "tempest" went away.  But you would convince more people of your
opinions if you were less emotional and forceful in expressing
them, and more kind and reasoning.  People aren't going to be convinced
by being attacked. 

Jeannie 

Jeannie,

You replied to Q very well. I don't need convincing about the medical
profession nor do I need convincing about the rudeness/insults of Q's
attacks. 

D/


qec...@aol.com wrote: 

  In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:11:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ba...@netease.net writes:


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CS>brewing

2002-08-21 Thread cmccauley

Thank you Ken for your input on my post.  I guess the hot plate is too
much, considering I'm also using a bubbler and spiking the solution.  You
suggest running the procedure longer to get more of a TE.  Is this
dissolving more silver into the solution or adding more particles?

I noticed that when I spike the solution using one of my clear
(bubbler-made) solutions AND don't turn on the bubbler, it takes much
longer to get to the point of the 'wisps' than if I use one of my
non-bubbler (yellow) solutions to start the new batch.When I use a
yellow solution, it only takes a fraction of the time for the 'wisps' to
appear.

I've read that the dissolved silver doesn't carry the positive charge like
the silver particles do.  And that something like 80% of the CS are silver
ions, and the particle silver is only 20%.  Would longer brewing using the
bubbler raise this percentage to over 80% of dissolved silver?  Is this
good or bad?

Lastly, I've heard the words 'silver ions' used to describe two different
things.  1. as the dissolved silver in a solution and 2. as the
positively-charged particles of silver in a solution.  Which is correct?  I
see the words 'silver ions' used on this List but I'm not sure exactly what
state the silver is in.  Dissolved or particles?

Thanks again,
Christine


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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread CKing001

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:28:24 EDT, qec...@aol.com wrote:

>How is calling them backwoods hicks an insult?  Unless they are backwoods 
>hicks?  I don't get how that is such an insult.  

I suppose this is to be expected from an AOLer...

Chuck

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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
In a message dated 8/21/2002 11:02:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jean...@ucinet.com writes:


> Is that something you would like to be called? 

I didn't think it was such an insult.  Back woods hicks meaning you haven't 
really been put in the myriad of situations to see the truth.  So, you say 
everything is rosey.  You haven't had enough interaction with the system to 
really have seen it for what it is.


Re: CS>MARK MY WORDS

2002-08-21 Thread Bill Missett
Dear MARK:

As Archie Bunker used to say, "stifle yourself."  We got your message.


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: CS>MARK MY WORDS


> Ivan, old man and others
>
> Mark my words, you're going to learn how corrupt things are.  Mark my
words.
> Mark my wordsyou are going to go right into the text book scenario on
> this one.
>
>
> MARK MY WORDS.
>
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Re: CS>alcohol and cs

2002-08-21 Thread Bill Missett
Beer and CS are made for each other.  While the first is getting you wasted, 
the latter protects your system.
  - Original Message - 
  From: mars larz 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:47 PM
  Subject: CS>alcohol and cs


  I'm taking cs for a cold sore if i drink a few beers will it effect the 
strength of the cs?  is is mixing  the two toxic?

  thank you




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Re: CS>MARK MY WORDS

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
Ivan, old man and others

Mark my words, you're going to learn how corrupt things are.  Mark my words.  
Mark my wordsyou are going to go right into the text book scenario on 
this one.


MARK MY WORDS.


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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread Catherine Creel
<>


  This is really outrageous.  You have based your assessment of 
where people live, and their life experiences on a person's lack of 
confirmation on your assumption that she or he was charged by a 
physician for a service rendered.  Are you beginning to see the 
insanity of this yet?


  How long have you known people here?  Have you looked at
the websites of those who have websites?   It's time to stop
indulging in your own fairy tale version of who people are,
what they've done, how they've done it, or what they know.
If you can't see this, we may be talking about les of a fairy tale,
and more of a psychosis. 

   

   Who are you trying so hard to convince of your point?
If you'd settle down for a moment, you'd realize that many
people here agree with your assessment of conventional
medicine.  Your posts have been really patronizing.  Please
stop - and while you're taking a breather, consider that
some of us may be more fully anti-conventional medicine 
than you are, but instead of ranting,  we are doing something
about it.


Catherine






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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:28:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ccr...@maine.rr.com writes:


> This is really outrageous.  You have based your assessment of 
> where people live, and their life experiences on a person's lack of 
> confirmation on your assumption that she or he was charged by a 
> physician for a service rendered.  Are you beginning to see the 
> insanity of this yet?
> 

The entire medical community is corrupted because man is corrupted.  When 
profits are so high, the evil is there.

My friend had chelation done for 5 grand.  The needle costs 4 cents.  The 
chelate costs 10 bucks.  Where is the 5 grand?  You can say this is OK but 
it's not OK.

I think you are part of the corruption.  That's why you defend it and try to 
make me the bad guy.  Mark my words if you do not learn the hard way on this. 
 


Re: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh

2002-08-21 Thread resd



What I want to make are silver biocircuits.. I have one made from
copper. Materials were easy to get hold of for that one



>

BIOCIRCUIT CITY
Biocircuits, available from Tools for Exploration are another device that
uses subtle energies though rather simply. Biocircuits are screens made of
copper, silver or silk that when placed beneath the head and base of the
spine and connected to the hands (and sometimes the feet) by copper, silver
or silk cords move the life force around the body. A double-blind study done
by Julian Isaacs, PhD., at John F. Kennedy University in Orinda, California,
proved that biocircuits cause a profound relaxation and sense of well-
being. Anecdotal healings have been attributed to the device as well. Oddly
enough, if a cord is cut and a bottle placed in the circuit with both ends
of the cut cord placed into the bottle, whatever is placed into the bottle
will affect the body. For example, aspirin in the bottle will reduce a
fever. As an experiment I placed pure tachyon water in the bottle. Not only
did a sore shoulder disappear but I left practically walking on air. You can
actually feel the energy moving around your body when you use biocircuits.
It feels rather strange, like something moving inside of you. Some people
feel it immediately but with me it took a few weeks of regular use to be
able to tune into something that subtle.



http://www.toolsforwellness.com/bt002.html

http://www.altered-states.co.nz/cgi-local/reload.cgi?^/bio/bio.htm










- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh


> Sorry, I don't know where to find the stuff you seek.  Try contacting
> Argentum Research.   I am  curious about your project.  Are you building
an
> orgone box?
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: resd [mailto:fig...@attbi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:36 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh
>
>
> Hello all...
>
> I have a project that needs some silver wire that is insulated not
bare.
> About ten feet of this.
>
> I also need thick silver foil   a few square feet
>
> And some silver mesh. By mesh I mean it looks like a window screen but
made
> from silver. I would need a few square feet of this
>
> Anyone know suppliers for these items?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
> Florida
>
>
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CS>alcohol and cs

2002-08-21 Thread mars larz
I'm taking cs for a cold sore if i drink a few beers will it effect the 
strength of the cs?  is is mixing  the two toxic?

thank you


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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread Catherine Creel
qec...@aol.com sputtered:


<>


[no text here as the sound of my uproarious laughter is too
complicated and tedious to spell]



 You're mistaking my rejection of your way of communicating
for defending conventional medicine. Is it a mistake, or is it
a deliberate twisting of the facts?

  Again, you're making a complete fool of yourself.
Frankly, how do we know you're not an FDA plant?
You sound ridiculous enough to be one.

  Hmmm...

Catherine

  


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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread d.linen
In a message dated 8/21/2002 11:02:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jean...@ucinet.com writes:


   Is that something you would like to be called? 



I didn't think it was such an insult.  Back woods hicks meaning you
haven't really been put in the myriad of situations to see the truth. 
So, you say everything
is rosey.  You haven't had enough interaction with the system to really
have seen it for what it is.

Q,

It's incredible that *you* do not 'get it'. I didn't see anyone saying
that the medical profession was good or that the care one receives is
good. I did not see that anyone said 'everything is rosey(Sic).'  I
think most here have had *more* than enough interaction with the system
to see what really goes on there. You don't seem capable of reading
exactly what people write, you prefer to interpret it through your own
special brand of glasses.


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CS>mgda MIKE!!!!!!

2002-08-21 Thread d.linen
In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:28:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ccr...@maine.rr.com writes:


   This is really outrageous.  You have based your assessment of 
   where people live, and their life experiences on a person's lack of 
   confirmation on your assumption that she or he was charged by a 
   physician for a service rendered.  Are you beginning to see the 
   insanity of this yet?



The entire medical community is corrupted because man is corrupted. 
When profits are so high, the evil is there.

My friend had chelation done for 5 grand.  The needle costs 4 cents. 
The chelate costs 10 bucks.  Where is the 5 grand?  You can say this is
OK but it's not
OK.

I think you are part of the corruption.  That's why you defend it and
try to make me the bad guy.  Mark my words if you do not learn the hard
way on this.  

MIKE! We need you! Please?

D/


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Re: CS>mgda MIKE!!!!!!

2002-08-21 Thread CKing001
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:09:07 -0500, "d.linen"  wrote:

>MIKE! We need you! Please?
>
>D/

Mike's waiting for you guys (me too) to stop responding.
It's self correcting.
I do it, 'cause it's fun.
Chuck

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CS>Re: Silver purity

2002-08-21 Thread Alan Ettenberg
I am trying to find very pure silver bars.  I could only fine .9995 pure. Can 
any one help.
Judy


Re: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh

2002-08-21 Thread CKing001
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:47:22 -0400, "resd"  wrote:

>
>What I want to make are silver biocircuits.. I have one made from
>copper. Materials were easy to get hold of for that one
>

I looked without much luck. It must be available though.

As a thought, what about weaving your own from silver wire? You only need
"potholder" size.
Used to do that kind of craft as a kid.

Chuck
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Re: CS>alcohol and cs

2002-08-21 Thread CKing001
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:13:48 -0500, Bill Missett  wrote:

>Beer and CS are made for each other.  While the first is getting you wasted, 
>the latter protects your system.

Another belief shattered...
Beer has been declared a health food last week.

Woody Allen was right in "The Sleeper".

Chuck
Some people live life in the fast lane.  I live in oncoming traffic.


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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
In a message dated 8/21/2002 2:22:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
li...@flash.net writes:


>  I
> think most here have had *more* than enough interaction with the system
> to see what really goes on there. 

then it is: let him that has an ear, let him hear...

I suppose not all that see, see...


Re: CS>cs in lungs

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
Ivan:

have you ever seriously screwed up someone's health with your advice?  


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Re: CS>mgda MIKE!!!!!!

2002-08-21 Thread d.linen


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:09:07 -0500, "d.linen"  wrote:
> 
> >MIKE! We need you! Please?
> >
> >D/
> 
> Mike's waiting for you guys (me too) to stop responding.
> It's self correcting.
> I do it, 'cause it's fun.

Gotcha. 

D/


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Re: CS>Re: Silver purity

2002-08-21 Thread Arnold Beland
 silver wire is available every night on eBay.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Ettenberg 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:22 PM
  Subject: CS>Re: Silver purity


  I am trying to find very pure silver bars.  I could only fine .9995 pure. Can 
any one help.
  Judy


Re: CS>Trying to reach Brooks Bradley

2002-08-21 Thread MARIANO DELISE
The last emial address I had for Brooks is liat...@flash.net  I hope you
find him
- Original Message -
From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
To: "Silver-List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:17 PM
Subject: CS>Trying to reach Brooks Bradley


> I apologize for using the list space for this but I need to contact BB and
> the e-mail address I have does not work.  Can someone give me his address?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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CS>test

2002-08-21 Thread Tel Tofflemire
I am not even getting my "test" through the Silver list ? Is it Down ?


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RE: CS>MARK MY WORDS

2002-08-21 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Mark this, dip.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: qec...@aol.com [mailto:qec...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>MARK MY WORDS


Ivan, old man and others

Mark my words, you're going to learn how corrupt things are.  Mark my words.
Mark my wordsyou are going to go right into the text book scenario on
this one.


MARK MY WORDS.


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RE: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh

2002-08-21 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Wild.  I sounds as if it may be related to the theories of Wilhelm Reich.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: resd [mailto:fig...@attbi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh





What I want to make are silver biocircuits.. I have one made from
copper. Materials were easy to get hold of for that one



>

BIOCIRCUIT CITY
Biocircuits, available from Tools for Exploration are another device that
uses subtle energies though rather simply. Biocircuits are screens made of
copper, silver or silk that when placed beneath the head and base of the
spine and connected to the hands (and sometimes the feet) by copper, silver
or silk cords move the life force around the body. A double-blind study done
by Julian Isaacs, PhD., at John F. Kennedy University in Orinda, California,
proved that biocircuits cause a profound relaxation and sense of well-
being. Anecdotal healings have been attributed to the device as well. Oddly
enough, if a cord is cut and a bottle placed in the circuit with both ends
of the cut cord placed into the bottle, whatever is placed into the bottle
will affect the body. For example, aspirin in the bottle will reduce a
fever. As an experiment I placed pure tachyon water in the bottle. Not only
did a sore shoulder disappear but I left practically walking on air. You can
actually feel the energy moving around your body when you use biocircuits.
It feels rather strange, like something moving inside of you. Some people
feel it immediately but with me it took a few weeks of regular use to be
able to tune into something that subtle.



http://www.toolsforwellness.com/bt002.html

http://www.altered-states.co.nz/cgi-local/reload.cgi?^/bio/bio.htm










- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh


> Sorry, I don't know where to find the stuff you seek.  Try contacting
> Argentum Research.   I am  curious about your project.  Are you building
an
> orgone box?
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: resd [mailto:fig...@attbi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:36 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh
>
>
> Hello all...
>
> I have a project that needs some silver wire that is insulated not
bare.
> About ten feet of this.
>
> I also need thick silver foil   a few square feet
>
> And some silver mesh. By mesh I mean it looks like a window screen but
made
> from silver. I would need a few square feet of this
>
> Anyone know suppliers for these items?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
> Florida
>
>
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CS>Brooks B. Please contact me off list. No body text.

2002-08-21 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes


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Re: CS>MARK MY WORDS=mgda

2002-08-21 Thread QEcara
There are three people using this email people.  FYI  When you insult one, 
the other finds it and responds.  That's the funny thing.  I am the fourth to 
use this site and got slammed by someone.  If there are more than 4 people I 
am unaware of it.

One of these guys is a computer wiz ... don't get him going or you may regret 
it.









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Re: CS>test

2002-08-21 Thread Terry Dickinson
I'm getting this msg OK over here Tel.

CheersTerry

- Original Message - 
From: "Tel Tofflemire" 
To: "Silver list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:42 PM
Subject: CS>test


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Re: CS>mgda

2002-08-21 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:42:04 EDT, qec...@aol.com wrote:

>The entire medical community is corrupted because man is corrupted.  When 
>profits are so high, the evil is there.

Aha, now I'm starting to get your slant.  "Corrupted" according to
who's standards -- and who's to say the standards are "right" and
who's to enforce the standards?

High profits = evil?  I guess that means that Enron, et. al., are pure
as the driven snow because they had no profits, while John Deere,
Intel and others are evil because they managed to show profits.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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Re: CS>MARK MY WORDS

2002-08-21 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Bill,

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:10:59 -0500, Bill Missett
 wrote:

>As Archie Bunker used to say, "stifle yourself."  We got your message.

I don't think she/he's old enough to know who Archie Bunker was.

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Re: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh

2002-08-21 Thread Jim Meissner
I purchase #12 silver wire for the CS generators that I make from
monsterslayer.com or http://www.metalworks.com  or (505) 598-5322
I noticed they sell silver "sheets" and "tubular" shapes also.  I have not
seen any screens, but chain mail is sold for jewelry.  For your application
a solid sheet should work as well, just not as comfortable as a pliable
screen.

I have played with copper "bio circuits" also.  Peter Lindemann thinks the
copper is too rough and likes to make his from pure silk "conductors?".  I
think that some of this is the princess and the pea story.

I do not believe that there will be much difference between copper and
silver.  But, I could be wrong.  Making "all" the connections out of silver
will be a challenge.  If you really want to spend the extra effort, let me
know and I may be able to help ( contact me off list ).

You might also check out the Edgar Cayce's "Radial Appliance" and the "Wet
Cell" if you are interested in this sort of thing.

Juergen P. (Jim) Meissner
Check out my Website at www.MeissnerResearch.com
Read about the benefits of the Brain State Synchronizer sounds for improving
your life and health.


- Original Message -
From: resd 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh


>
>
>
> What I want to make are silver biocircuits.. I have one made from
> copper. Materials were easy to get hold of for that one
>
>
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> >
>
> BIOCIRCUIT CITY
> Biocircuits, available from Tools for Exploration are another device that
> uses subtle energies though rather simply. Biocircuits are screens made of
> copper, silver or silk that when placed beneath the head and base of the
> spine and connected to the hands (and sometimes the feet) by copper,
silver
> or silk cords move the life force around the body. A double-blind study
done
> by Julian Isaacs, PhD., at John F. Kennedy University in Orinda,
California,
> proved that biocircuits cause a profound relaxation and sense of well-
> being. Anecdotal healings have been attributed to the device as well.
Oddly
> enough, if a cord is cut and a bottle placed in the circuit with both ends
> of the cut cord placed into the bottle, whatever is placed into the bottle
> will affect the body. For example, aspirin in the bottle will reduce a
> fever. As an experiment I placed pure tachyon water in the bottle. Not
only
> did a sore shoulder disappear but I left practically walking on air. You
can
> actually feel the energy moving around your body when you use biocircuits.
> It feels rather strange, like something moving inside of you. Some people
> feel it immediately but with me it took a few weeks of regular use to be
> able to tune into something that subtle.
>
>
>
> http://www.toolsforwellness.com/bt002.html
>
> http://www.altered-states.co.nz/cgi-local/reload.cgi?^/bio/bio.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:00 AM
> Subject: RE: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh
>
>
> > Sorry, I don't know where to find the stuff you seek.  Try contacting
> > Argentum Research.   I am  curious about your project.  Are you building
> an
> > orgone box?
> >
> > James-Osbourne: Holmes
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: resd [mailto:fig...@attbi.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:36 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>Where to buy silver foil and silver mesh
> >
> >
> > Hello all...
> >
> > I have a project that needs some silver wire that is insulated not
> bare.
> > About ten feet of this.
> >
> > I also need thick silver foil   a few square feet
> >
> > And some silver mesh. By mesh I mean it looks like a window screen but
> made
> > from silver. I would need a few square feet of this
> >
> > Anyone know suppliers for these items?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dan
> > Florida
> >
> >
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> >
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>


Re: CS>test

2002-08-21 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Tel,

Your test messages are coming through the list in fine shape.  That
is, you can post to the list (which implies you're subscribed).  Why
you don't receive them is anyone's guess.  Maybe you should try to
unsubscribe, then re-subscribe.

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:42:55 -0700, Tel Tofflemire
 wrote:

>I am not even getting my "test" through the Silver list ? Is it Down ?

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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CS>OT: Aircraft Order

2002-08-21 Thread Connie
Hope the formatting will survive this forward to the list, if not I
apologize.
Connie

This was allegedly posted very briefly on the McDonnell Douglas
Website by an employee there who obviously has a sense of humour.
The company of course, does not have a sense of humour, & made the web
department take it down immediately (for once, the 'IMPORTANT' note at the
end is worth a read too).
 
Thank you for purchasing a McDonnell Douglas military aircraft. In
order to protect your new investment, please take a few moments to
fill out the warranty registration card below. Answering the survey
questions is not required, but the information will help us to develop
new products that best meet your needs and desires.
1. 
[_] Mr. 
[_] Mrs. 
[_] Ms. 
[_] Miss 
[_] Lt. 
[_] Gen. 
[_] Comrade 
[_] Prince 
[_] Classified 
[_] Muslim Fundamentalist - killer of infidels
[_] Other   
First Name:.
Initial:  
Last Name.
Password: .. (max. 8 char)
Code Name: ...
Latitude-Longitude-Altitude: ... ...
2. Which model of aircraft did you purchase?
[_] F-14 Tomcat 
[_] F-15 Eagle 
[_] F-16 Falcon 
[_] F-117A Stealth 
[_] Un-Classified Top Secret Project
[_] Un-Classified Top Secret Project based at an Un-Classified Non
Existent Test Facility in the Nevada Desert
3. Date of purchase (Year/Month/Day): .../.../...
4. Serial Number:..
5. Please indicate where this product was purchased:
[_] Received as gift / aid package
[_] Catalogue / showroom
[_] Independent arms broker
[_] Mail order 
[_] Discount store 
[_] Government surplus
[_] Classified 
[_] My Aircraft does not officially exist yet
6. Please indicate how you became aware of the McDonnell Douglas
product you have just purchased:
[_] Heard loud noise, looked up
[_] Store display 
[_] Espionage 
[_] Recommended by friend / relative / ally
[_] Political lobbying by manufacturer
[_] Was attacked by one
7. Please indicate the three (3) factors that most influenced your
decision to purchase this McDonnell Douglas product:
[_] Style / appearance
[_] Speed / manoeuvrability
[_] Price / value 
[_] Comfort / convenience
[_] Kickback / bribe
[_] Recommended by salesperson
[_] McDonnell Douglas reputation
[_] Advanced Weapons Systems
[_] Backroom politics
[_] Negative experience opposing one in combat
8. Please indicate the location(s) where this product will be used:
[_] North America 
[_] Iraq 
[_] Iraq 
[_] Aircraft carrier
[_] Iraq 
[_] Europe 
[_] Iraq 
[_] Middle East (not Iraq)
[_] Iraq 
[_] Africa 
[_] Iraq 
[_] Asia / Far East
[_] Iraq 
[_] Misc. Third World countries
[_] Iraq 
[_] Classified 
[_] Iraq   
9. Please indicate the products that you currently own or intend to
purchase in the near future:
[_] Colour TV 
[_] VCR 
[_] ICBM 
[_] Killer Satellite
[_] CD Player 
[_] Air-to-Air Missiles
[_] Space Shuttle 
[_] Home Computer 
[_] Nuclear Weapon 
10. How would you describe yourself or your organisation?
(Indicate all that apply:)
[_] Communist / Socialist
[_] Terrorist 
[_] Crazed 
[_] Neutral 
[_] Democratic 
[_] Dictatorship 
[_] Corrupt 
[_] Arab Prince 
[_] Primitive / Tribal
[_] Muslim Fundamentalist - killer of infidels
11. How did you pay for your McDonnell Douglas product?
[_] Deficit spending
[_] Cash 
[_] Suitcases of cocaine
[_] Oil revenues 
[_] Personal cheque
[_] Credit card 
[_] Ransom money 
[_] Traveller's cheque
[_] Koran teaches to lie to and cheat infidels, so . . .
12. Your occupation:
[_] Homemaker 
[_] Sales / marketing
[_] Revolutionary 
[_] Clerical 
[_] Mercenary 
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the interests and activities in which you & your spouse enjoy
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[_] Golf 
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[_] Gardening 
[_] Crafts 
[_] Black market / smuggling
[_] Collectibles / collections
[_] Watching sports on TV
[_] Wines 
[_] Interrogation / torture
[_] Household pets 
[_] Crushing rebellions
[_] Espionage / reconnaissance
[_] Fashion clothing
[_] Border disputes
[_] Mutually Assured Destruction
[_] Killing infidels
[_] Smuggling weapons to the PA, via tunnels from Egypt
 
Thank you for taking the time to fill out this questionnaire. Your
answers will be used in market studies that will help McDonnell
Douglas serve you better in the future - as well as allowing you to
receive mailings & special offers from other companies, governments,
extremist groups & mysterious consortia. As a bonus for responding
to this survey, you will be registered to win a brand new F-117A in our
Desert Thunder Sweepstakes!   Comments or suggestions about 

Re: CS>test

2002-08-21 Thread CKing001
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:42:55 -0700, Tel Tofflemire  wrote:

>I am not even getting my "test" through the Silver list ?
Gee, Rough!!!

> Is it Down ?
Must be!

Chuck
668--the Neighbor of the Beast


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RE: CS>cs in lungs

2002-08-21 Thread Ivan Anderson
Ha ha, you're too funny.
To answer your question, no, but I will make an exception in your case
:-)
BTW, do you still beat your wife?

If you are seriously interested in CS in the lungs, read this:
http://www.silvermedicine.org/airbrushoxygennebulizer.html

Ivan.


> -Original Message-
> From: qec...@aol.com [mailto:qec...@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2002 6:45 a.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>cs in lungs
>
>
> Ivan:
>
> have you ever seriously screwed up someone's health with
> your advice?


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Re: CS>test

2002-08-21 Thread Tai-Pan
you are coming through ok.  Bob

Tel Tofflemire wrote:

> I am not even getting my "test" through the Silver list ? Is it Down ?
>
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CS>to much general conversation on cs site

2002-08-21 Thread mars larz

dear fellow cs participants on this site:   there are so many other chat sites 
to post general  converstion.  could you please stop "SPAMMING" my mail box 
with all of your personal  tiffs and comments that have nothing to do with the 
benefits of cs some of us have chronic illness or other human infections. and 
we would like to hear more testimonies about  how cs has(or has not) improved 
these conditions. i'm a newbie with health conditions and everytime i  get an 
alert that i have new messages from the silverwebsite. i'm hoping that it's a 
message concerning some effect  cs is having on someone. otherwise  this is  
starting to be like any other chat site. besides it's difficult enough to get 
to convince (wary people like mysef ) to try cs in the first place. 


thank you


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CS>Off-topic-- for Marshalee Hallett

2002-08-21 Thread Nancy-Silverworks
Please email me. I don't have your current email address. Thanks,

Nancy (a.k.a. bernt...@oikourgos.com) 


Re: CS>Trying to reach Brooks Bradley

2002-08-21 Thread Brooks Bradley
Hello James,
My email address is at the top of this message.  I
have another, brooks.brad...@att.net   However, this worldnet one is the
one I presently use for 95% of my activity.
If I can help you in any way do n ot hesitate to call
on me.
Sincerely,  Brooks.

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> I apologize for using the list space for this but I need to contact BB and
> the e-mail address I have does not work.  Can someone give me his address?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
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Re: CS>MARK MY WORDS

2002-08-21 Thread Hank Adams
I love this, Keep it going. I have had more hehehes or outright hahahas
since this started.

Yours Hank.
http://hdka.myecom.net/ct/ct.htm
http://hdka.myecom.net/
http://signup.myecom.net/?hdka

> Hi Bill,
>
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:10:59 -0500, Bill Missett
>  wrote:
>
>>As Archie Bunker used to say, "stifle yourself."  We got your message.
>
> I don't think she/he's old enough to know who Archie Bunker was.
>
> -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF




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CS>Moles

2002-08-21 Thread Margaret
12 years ago I had two moles removed. The doctor said they were like icebergs, 
1/3 above and 2/3 below the surface. Since then 4 more have grown and I am 
treating them with CS (they are starting to loosen after only 4 days) Question, 
what happens to the 2/3 below the surface? Thank you, Margaret.


Re: CS>cs in lungs

2002-08-21 Thread MARIANO DELISE
That's a great source, Thank you
- Original Message - 
From: "Ivan Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: CS>cs in lungs


> Ha ha, you're too funny.
> To answer your question, no, but I will make an exception in your case
> :-)
> BTW, do you still beat your wife?
> 
> If you are seriously interested in CS in the lungs, read this:
> http://www.silvermedicine.org/airbrushoxygennebulizer.html
> 
> Ivan.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: qec...@aol.com [mailto:qec...@aol.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2002 6:45 a.m.
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>cs in lungs
> >
> >
> > Ivan:
> >
> > have you ever seriously screwed up someone's health with
> > your advice?
> 
> 
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Re: CS>mole/wart

2002-08-21 Thread Barbara Liles
I've been there and done that.  Gave me the impetus to look harder for 
alternative cures!
  - Original Message - 
  From: qec...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:24 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>mole/wart


  In a message dated 8/21/2002 1:11:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ba...@netease.net writes:



How many days of 600 ppm colloidal silver would it take to purge your 
system of contaminated thinking?



  You tell me.  Mark my words, my sweetie, you gonna learn what I said...i just 
think you need to be put into the situationand you will be.  IT will happen 
to you people, just as I say it willthere is more corruption in the medical 
industry than people think.