RE: CSH2O2 and CS, cloudy?
Jason and Paula, You don't need to have silver flakes, any elemental particles will be ionised by H2O2. The process generates O2 gas, and it is these very tiny gas bubbles which turn the CS cloudy or turbid. They will dissipate in time, and if you have added enough H2O2, the CS will become a crystal clear solution of dissolved silver ions. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: Jason Eaton [mailto:ey...@lvcm.com] Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 7:00 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and CS, cloudy? Paula: Chances are you had some tiny silver flakes in your colloidal silver, or a significant amount of larger particles. The H2O2 starts to break the silver down, and thus can cause turbitity. A slightly yellow colloidal silver without any silver flakes will rapidly turn upon adding the H2O2. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:59 AM Subject: CSH2O2 and CS, cloudy? Hi all, I decided to try putting some 3% peroxide in CS (16 drops to just over a quart of CS) and it immediately turned very milky/cloudy. Is this normal? If it isn't normal what happened? This particular batch of CS had turned out fairly yellow. TIA, paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMy CS test results
Well, it depends upon how much elemental silver is in your CS. just
start with a few mL and let it sit over night. End result should be
crystal clear, and not too bitter (too much H2O2).
Whether the CS is improved by this would be debated by some
investigators.
Ivan
-Original Message-
From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net]
Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 6:42 p.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMy CS test results
Anyone want to answer this ?
How much H202 and at what % to improve CS ?The
strongest I have ever bought
is 35 % food grade H202 , its kind of expensive. But how
much do you need to
put in CS ? Say a quart ? We can figure up or down from
that. Do you think 3
% H202 in the brown bottle store bought would hurt anything...?
Tel
Dewey, AZ
MARIANO DELISE wrote:
For allof us non technical types, I believe you are
saying what my body has
been telling me that it is advantageous to add H2o2...Is
this correct?
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: CSMy CS test results
Thanks Rob, good work.
The addition of H2O2 ionises any particulate silver and
any Tyndal
effect found in the 100% ionic batch needs further
investigation, as
discrete ions should not scatter the light beam.
Ivan.
-Original Message-
From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:59 a.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMy CS test results
Hello,
From the time I first started making my own CS I have
occassionally had it tested at our local college. {atomic level
tests} My latest tests that I had them do was to see if indeed
whether or not H202 mixed at 1 drop for every 2 ounces
did actually
decrease the partical size. I had three tests done:
1. First a test on 1 gallon of my CS unaltered.
2. A test on a second gallon of my CS after adding 64
drops of H202
[I ordered this test to be done within 30 minutes of
adding the H202]
3. A test on a third gallon of my CS after adding 64
drops of H202
after waiting for at least 24 hours.
I have not received yet the paper showing partical
sizes..but I
did talk to them on the phone. First of all my CS
unaltered was 75%
ionic and measured 18 ppm.
Tests 2 and 3 were dramatically differentnumber
2 was 88%
ionic and 3 was 100%. This actually proves what I had
suspected: that
the reaction actually takes much longer to complete
than what I had
originally been told. I suspected this for 2
reasons...first..the older my CS got after
adding H202 it had
less of a tyndall effectand second.the
older it gets
after adding H202 the stronger it tastes.
I have some mixed H202/CS that is more than 2 weeks old
and it hasn't
precipitated or shown any other signs of going
badanybody
who doubts the advantage of adding H202 should have
their own tests
done. I'll post all of the numbers when I get them in
the mail. Robb
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RE: CSMy CS test results
Nancy, No that is not what I am saying at all. I am not giving an opinion as to whether this results in a better CS or not, just describing what happens when one does add H2O2 to CS. All the same, I am glad that you find the addition beneficial. Ivan. -Original Message- From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 4:38 p.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: Re: CSMy CS test results For allof us non technical types, I believe you are saying what my body has been telling me that it is advantageous to add H2o2...Is this correct? Nancy - Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: RE: CSMy CS test results Thanks Rob, good work. The addition of H2O2 ionises any particulate silver and any Tyndal effect found in the 100% ionic batch needs further investigation, as discrete ions should not scatter the light beam. Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSORMUS and stills
Jason, Thank you for a most informative and interesting post. I have found your previous messages on the subject of healing clays extremely interesting also, and I will investigate further as time permits, as I feel there must be some good clays here in New Zealand... there certainly are for potting, which was a hat I wore for some years in the distant past. NZ is quite thermally active, and there are a number of sites with bubbling mud pools and so on. I wonder if these clays would be worth investigating. The marriage of silver and healing clay sounds like a great idea from outside the square. Please keep us informed of your progress. Kind Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: Jason Eaton [mailto:ey...@lvcm.com] Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 8:39 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: Re: CSORMUS and stills Ivan: Indeed, mysteries prevail... Unfortunately, the ORMUS products that are available that CAN be studied are not the same as Hudson's products. I had the privilege many years ago to examine some of Hudson's monotomic gold and Iridium - when Hudson's dream was still alive and fresh in the mind of those investing in his project. Holding the Iridium in your hand was like burying your hand in a large bin of sea salt for hours, only the feeling was hundreds of times more potent. I have always been interested in the monoatomic elements, as reportedly the healing clays are rich with them. This is one reason why I have been so diligent in attempting to find natural and unprocessed clays to study, as my understanding is that any processing of substances with monoatomic elements greatly effects them -- just like Aloe Vera. On a related note, I just had a wonderful meeting with Thierry Brunet and his wife from France, of the Buruli Busters ( http://www.burulibusters.com ) organization. His mother heads the non-profit relief effort in Africa, and he has been touring the world meeting with the top pelotherapy practitioners and clay scientists of the world. We have yet another recent documented case of severe mercury poisoning ( this one nearly lethal, with symptoms including comas, a stroke, and neurological abnormalities )being eliminated within one week of clay baths made with larger amounts of Montmorillonite, and Illite taken internally. Final questions remain on the best way to pull the mercury from the head/brain region, but all symptoms have been completely eliminated. Blood tests have been taken for a comparison, but the results are not back as of yet. An analysis will be done on the used clay itself, as well. I believe at this point I have sufficient evidence, although anectodtal, on the efficacy of silver as combined with clay against at least viral conditions, due to repeated successes done by comparing the action of silver alone, clay alone, and silver and clay combined against various forms of herpes breakouts. In the future, we hope to test the clay silver combination with the Buruli ulcers. Silver alone is not likely to be effective against this condition due to the fact that it is nearly impossible to deliver anything to infected tissues ( while in the beginning treatment stages ). Somehow, although no scientist or expert to date has discovered how, the illite, when placed on the body externally, is reaching the infection site through prolonged treatment. I believe that silver added to this mica clay, at least in the later stages of treatment, will vastly improve tissue healing, and may help to avoid the unpleasant side effects often encountered about mid-way through the treatment ( the immune system tends to breakdown and the individual can become quite ill for a period of time ). Such work on my end has been very slow going. I've been having problems identifying the difference in efficacy of the various clays, and think I've finally isolated one factor in the smectite class of clays: It appears that high sodium bentonites/montmorillonites are far less effective then their virgin counterparts when used on the body. Kind Regards, Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSgenerator
Hello- I am a subscriber of this list since buying a generator last June, and have read many ways to make a generator, and have seen many places to buy generators - now that I want to give a couple of them for Christmas presents, I am confused and at a loss. I love my generator, but can't afford to spend more then $50 right now. I am asking that anyone with information for a kit or a website to go to, please email me personally. After reading all the options, I will make a decision. Thanks for your help. rol...@aol.com
CSBulk Buy of Clark Zappers??
Somebody was going to bulk buy some Clark Zappers. I've lost the posting. Am interested in their latest zapper. Contact me off list please. In SILvation: Douglas Haack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWater Distillers
Water Distillers I have seen lots on the net, the one that looks the best for the money had a stainless steel boiling chamber and cooling fins for around a 100$ When you use one why the filters they try to sell you I would think all you would need is the distiller All thoughts would be appreciated on a Distiller and filters Bob
CS(Fwd) Study sees inflammation as key heart attack cause
Interesting article. Thank you Mike M. Mike D. --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 23:30:44 -0800 From: Michael Mahoney mmaho...@eoni.com To:M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Subject: Study sees inflammation as key heart attack cause Mike, I read some time ago that infection was suspected as a cause in many heart attacks and mentally filed that away as one more reason to use CS. The following article addresses this subject and I thought it might be of interest to others on the Silver List. Rather than just post it to the list I thought I'd run it by you first. If you think it is on topic, feel free to just forward it to the list. Thanks for all the work you do on the Silver List! Mike === Study sees inflammation as key heart attack cause By Daniel Q. Haney The Associated Press The Oregonian: 2002-11-14 Significant new research suggests inflammatory proteins within the body play a bigger role than cholesterol BOSTON - A landmark study offers the strongest evidence yet that simmering painless inflammation deep within the body is the single most powerful trigger of heart attacks, worse than high cholesterol. The latest research is likely to encourage many doctors to make blood tests for inflammation part of standard physical exams for middle-aged people, especially those with other conditions that increase their risk of heart trouble. The study, based on nearly 28,000 women, is by far the largest to look at inflammation's role, and it shows that those with high levels are twice as likely as those with high cholesterol to die from heart attacks and strokes. During the past five years, research by Dr. Paul Ridker of Boston's Brigham and Women's Hospital has built the case for the inflammation hypothesis. With his latest study, many think the evidence is overwhelming that inflammation is a central factor in cardiovascular disease, by far the world's biggest killer. Inflammation can be measured with a test that checks for C-reactive protein, or CRP, a chemical necessary for fighting injury and infection. The test typically costs between $25 and $50. Diet and exercise can lower CRP dramatically. Cholesterol-lowering drugs called statins also reduce CRP, as do aspirin and some other medicines. Doctors think inflammation has many possible sources. Often, the fatty buildups that line the blood vessels become inflamed as white blood cells invade in a misguided defense attempt. Fat cells are also known to turn out these inflammatory proteins. Other possible triggers include high blood pressure, smoking and lingering low-level infections, such as chronic gum disease. Doctors theorize that a chronic infection anywhere in the body can produce these inflammatory proteins, which then enter the bloodstream and do their damage in the blood vessels. The proteins are thought to weaken the fatty buildups, or plaques, making them more likely to burst. A piece of plaque can then lead to a clot that can choke off the blood flow and cause a heart attack. For the first time, Ridkey's study established what level of CRP should be considered worrisome, so doctors can make sense of patients' readings. However, experts are still divided over which patients to test and how to treat them if their CRP readings are high. Some, such as Dr. Richard Milani of the Ochsner Clinic in New Orleans, recommend a CRP check for almost anyone getting a cholesterol test. Others are reluctant to test people at low outward risk. Dr. Sidney Smith, research director of the American Heart Association, said CRP testing would probably be most helpful in guiding the care of the 40 percent of U.S. adults already considered at intermediate risk of heart attacks. In March, the heart association and the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention held a meeting of 50 experts to review the evidence and make recommendation on CRP testing. The committee decided to start over after learning last week of Ridker's latest results, which are being published in the New England Journal of Medicine today. Though the study involved women only, Ridker said he is confident the findings apply to men as well because earlier, small studies in men reached similar conclusions. A skeptical editorial in the journal by Dr. Lori Mosca of Columbia University, questioned the need for widespread testing, at least until more studies are done to show that lowering CRP actually saves lives. Such studies are planned. Until then, Ridker said he thinks a high CRP reading can help doctors convince people with low cholesterol that they still need to diet and exercise. The CRP test can predict risk 15 to 25 years in the future, Ridker said. We have a long time to get our patients to change their
Re: CSH2O2 and CS, cloudy?
Ivan, How much H202 is enough? I used 1 drop per 2 oz CS approximately. I'm really reluctant to drink anything that looks this awful, are there other uses for this cloudy mix, or should I toss it? TIA, paula -- Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats) mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter - Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz Jason and Paula, You don't need to have silver flakes, any elemental particles will be ionised by H2O2. The process generates O2 gas, and it is these very tiny gas bubbles which turn the CS cloudy or turbid. They will dissipate in time, and if you have added enough H2O2, the CS will become a crystal clear solution of dissolved silver ions. Regards Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhoa, sorry bout that other message... please don't open - lots ofhtml code in it. Here's my question about silver coins.
Actually an alloy might be better. Pure silver does not dissolve in water at all, and does not form bonds with anything to make it soluble very easily. However, if you connect silver and copper, you form a crude battery, which will then develop a current, that will then allow the silver to form colloidal silver. Thus, it seems possible that if you put an alloy of silver and copper into an electrolyte, the copper should react with cations such as sulfates ions, and create a current that causes the silver atoms to get pulled into the liquid where they might form a colloid. A thought anyway. Marshall Tel Tofflemire wrote: Not many us coins are pure silver. Only one I know is a commemorative $5.00 Canada Silver Maple Leaf coin. US coins have nickel, tin and who knows what all, but Not much pure silver. Tel Dewey, AZ Nicole K wrote: Hi List members, I was thinking about the coins the wagon train settlers used to keep their milk fresh - silver coins in the milk jugs. I'm assuming this is true and wondered if simply sucking on a pure silver coin would do anything to allay the onset of throat infection or sore throat. I guess it wouldn't be as effective as taking the colloid. Anyone have any opinions on this?? Pacific Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhoa, sorry bout that other message... please don't open - lots ofhtml code in it. Here's my question about silver coins.
What US coin is stamped .999%? It must be a bullion coin instead of a ciruculation coin. I am not aware of any circulation coins that are not an alloy. Marshall hdka wrote: Are you saying it is a lie when a US coin is stamped as .999 silver? If you go to www.usmint.gov you will find that US silver coinage is 90% silver and 10% alloy. Also, sterling silver is 92.5% silver, 7.5% alloy, per Webster's New World Dictionary, Second College Edition,1972. These are not insignificant percentages of silver in everyday usage, so why is it not possible that some benefit may have accrued through use or custom in the past??? Regards, Al Peirce... Yours Hank. http://hdka.myecom.net/ct/ct.htm http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.goingplatinum.com/member/hdka http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue71/wing2.html http://www.1heluva.com/cgi-bin/join.cgi?refer=17214 Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMy CS test results
My CS that turned very cloudy with the addition of the 1 drop 3% H202 per 2 oz CS, has not changed at all in approx 36 hours now. It is still very milky/cloudy, it is opaque. paula -- - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net I have been using the 3% brown bottle store bought H2o2 for about 8 months, now. It works just fine. I put a drop of H2o2 for every 2 oz. of CS. Sometimes it turns darker immediately, and sometimes it does notLet it stand about 15 minutes, then I add Gatorade. The H2o2 makes it a little bitter. It is my understanding that the H202 interacts with the silver, puliverizes the aleady small pieces, and makes them tiny enough to get into the blood stream. After about 15 minutes, often the amber or cloudy CS will be crystal clear. It has made a world of difference to me. Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and CS, cloudy?
Yes, this seems to be the norm. There has been discussion of this before, and I believe that the consensus is that the ionic silver combines with the O in the H2O2 yielding AgO and H2O, I.E. water and silver oxide. Silver oxide is virtually insoluble, so it forms a precipitate that appears milky until it can settle out. If this is the case, it might be a good way of making 100% colloidal silver, since the ionic should settle out over time. Marshall sol wrote: Hi all, I decided to try putting some 3% peroxide in CS (16 drops to just over a quart of CS) and it immediately turned very milky/cloudy. Is this normal? If it isn't normal what happened? This particular batch of CS had turned out fairly yellow.TIA,paula
Re: CSWhoa, sorry bout that other message... please don't open - lots ofhtml code in it. Here's my question about silver coins.
About 3 days. Marshall hdka wrote: Hay Marshall how long did it take to find it? Marshall Dudley writes: I would be careful about sucking on coins. I did that one time, and coughed and swallowed it. Marshall Yours Hank. http://hdka.myecom.net/ct/ct.htm http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.goingplatinum.com/member/hdka http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue71/wing2.html http://www.1heluva.com/cgi-bin/join.cgi?refer=17214 Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSYour advice, Marshall
Actually it was when I was a child, and in fact it was not a silver coin at all, it was a nickel. I have no idea why I was sucking on it. : I just remember I coughed and it was gone. Marshall Nicole K wrote: Hi and thanks for the advice. I had actually considered that possibility but thought the risk might be worth the benefit. What did you swallow, by the way? Was it a silver dollar? Must have been somewhat uncomfortable. Did you receive any benefit to your knowledge from the coin or did it slip down too soon?Glad to know the outcome was satisfactory and that you're still with us.Pacific Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:32:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CS>Whoa, sorry bout that other message... please don't open - lots ofhtml code in it. Here's my question about silver coins. Hay Marshall how long did it take to find it? Marshall Dudley writes: > I would be careful about sucking on coins. I did that one time, and coughed and swallowed it. > > Marshall Yours Hank. http://hdka.myecom.net/ct/ct.htm http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.goingplatinum.com/member/hdka http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue71/wing2.html http://www.1heluva.com/cgi-bin/join.cgi?refer=17214 Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com> . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: CSWhoa, sorry bout that other message... please don'topen - lots ofhtml code in it. Here's my question about silvercoins.
http://algaebar.com/ Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: There is an outfit that sells a swimming pool purifier based on that idea. Just toss it in. ken At 10:14 AM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote: Actually an alloy might be better. Pure silver does not dissolve in water at all, and does not form bonds with anything to make it soluble very easily. However, if you connect silver and copper, you form a crude battery, which will then develop a current, that will then allow the silver to form colloidal silver. Thus, it seems possible that if you put an alloy of silver and copper into an electrolyte, the copper should react with cations such as sulfates ions, and create a current that causes the silver atoms to get pulled into the liquid where they might form a colloid. A thought anyway. Marshall Tel Tofflemire wrote: Not many us coins are pure silver. Only one I know is a commemorative $5.00 Canada Silver Maple Leaf coin. US coins have nickel, tin and who knows what all, but Not much pure silver. Tel Dewey, AZ Nicole K wrote: Hi List members, I was thinking about the coins the wagon train settlers used to keep their milk fresh - silver coins in the milk jugs. I'm assuming this is true and wondered if simply sucking on a pure silver coin would do anything to allay the onset of throat infection or sore throat. I guess it wouldn't be as effective as taking the colloid. Anyone have any opinions on this?? Pacific Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhoa, sorry bout that other message... please don't open - lots ofhtml code in it. Here's my question about silver coins.
These are not stamped http://www.goldcoinshop.com/silver_coins.html I am just taking there word for it. I'm not sure now if the two I used are US coins, The 1971 World Trade is stamped 999 FINE the other side says The International Universal Trade Unit. The other coin is stamped .999 FINE SILVER One Troy Ounce Silver Trade Unit. E PLURIBUS UNUM, No date on it. I ordered 2 2002 silver dollars form a web site that said they were .999 fine, I haven't used them, They are not stamped .999, Other web sites say the 2002 is 90%. Marshall Dudley writes: What US coin is stamped .999%? It must be a bullion coin instead of a ciruculation coin. I am not aware of any circulation coins that are not an alloy. Marshall Yours Hank. http://hdka.myecom.net/ct/ct.htm http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.goingplatinum.com/member/hdka http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue71/wing2.html http://www.1heluva.com/cgi-bin/join.cgi?refer=17214 Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhoa, sorry bout that other message... please don't open - lots ofhtml code in it. Here's my question about silver coins.
There is an outfit that sells a swimming pool purifier based on that idea. Just toss it in. ken At 10:14 AM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote: Actually an alloy might be better. Pure silver does not dissolve in water at all, and does not form bonds with anything to make it soluble very easily. However, if you connect silver and copper, you form a crude battery, which will then develop a current, that will then allow the silver to form colloidal silver. Thus, it seems possible that if you put an alloy of silver and copper into an electrolyte, the copper should react with cations such as sulfates ions, and create a current that causes the silver atoms to get pulled into the liquid where they might form a colloid. A thought anyway. Marshall Tel Tofflemire wrote: Not many us coins are pure silver. Only one I know is a commemorative $5.00 Canada Silver Maple Leaf coin. US coins have nickel, tin and who knows what all, but Not much pure silver. Tel Dewey, AZ Nicole K wrote: Hi List members, I was thinking about the coins the wagon train settlers used to keep their milk fresh - silver coins in the milk jugs. I'm assuming this is true and wondered if simply sucking on a pure silver coin would do anything to allay the onset of throat infection or sore throat. I guess it wouldn't be as effective as taking the colloid. Anyone have any opinions on this?? Pacific Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver coins
OK..Let me get this straight.silver coins are NOT a good thing to use when making cs? Hi Paula, *ANY* coin, medallion, ingot, or wire that is at least .999 pure is *GREAT* for making colloidal silver. Regular silver coins that you carry around in your pocket and get as change at the grocery store have not contained any silver at all since the mid-1960's. Before that, they were only about 90% silver, which means *WAY* too many impurities to use for making CS. Any bullion coin that's .999 pure or better will work. Let's see, the US mints the Silver Eagle, 1 oz coin, right? The Canadians make the Maple Leaf, I think. There are any number of other 1 ounce .999 pure or better silver pieces that the coin dealer will be able to point you to. It shouldn't be any more complicated than that. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CStuberculosis
Has anyone had any experience or have references on whether CS would be effective in destroying the tuberculosis bacteria? Thanks, Stan. J. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSalgae
Hi everyone, Yesterday I removed 100ml of water from our outdoor pond, which was very green with algae. To this I added 30ml of CS. I fully expected that the water would have been perfectly clear today, but it is still exactly the same. Any ideas? Also the right side of my face swelled up (presumably sinus) So I irrigated my nasal passages, and ears, also gargled every couple of hours. The swelling went down within a couple of hours. Brilliant !! Best wishes to all Margaret B --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002
Re: CStuberculosis
CS kills all bacteria. TB is a bacteria. Trem - Original Message - From: Stan Jarzylo sjarz...@cogeco.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: CStuberculosis Has anyone had any experience or have references on whether CS would be effective in destroying the tuberculosis bacteria? Thanks, Stan. J. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver coins
OK..Let me get this straight.silver coins are NOT a good thing to use when making cs? I was told by someone on this list 2 years ago that it was OK to use the one troy ounce silver trade unit stamped .999 pure silver and now this is not correct??? Someone please clear this up. I have received so many mixed messages from different sources including this list. Thanks in advance. I thought I was doing this correctly at last, making mostly clear (sometimes barely gold) cs. Paula in N Ga PS I (and the people I give cs to) really don't need to be turning blue (LOL) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
paul...@juno.com wrote: OK..Let me get this straight.silver coins are NOT a good thing to use when making cs? I was told by someone on this list 2 years ago that it was OK to use the one troy ounce silver trade unit stamped .999 pure silver and now this is not correct??? Someone please clear this up. I have received so many mixed messages from different sources including this list. Thanks in advance. I thought I was doing this correctly at last, making mostly clear (sometimes barely gold) cs. Paula in N Ga PS I (and the people I give cs to) really don't need to be turning blue (LOL) i think you guys should be careful experimenting and complicating making cs with all these other silver elements this is why people are afraid and sceptical about using cs. Rosemary and the feds will probably use this info down the line to really ban cs it's for reasons like this that the senator turned blue. why not stick to the silver wire. these coins you're looking for seem to be few and probably far too expensive in your search for them that's just my opinion -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour thank you - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: CS 9999 fine Maple Leaf
Canada Silver Maple Leaf $5.00 piece is stamped fine It is not a circulated piece, it is a collectors coin. Sells for aprox $8.00 at a coin shop. http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/silver.html Tel Dewey , AZ hdka wrote: These are not stamped http://www.goldcoinshop.com/silver_coins.html I am just taking there word for it. I'm not sure now if the two I used are US coins, The 1971 World Trade is stamped 999 FINE the other side says The International Universal Trade Unit. The other coin is stamped .999 FINE SILVER One Troy Ounce Silver Trade Unit. E PLURIBUS UNUM, No date on it. I ordered 2 2002 silver dollars form a web site that said they were .999 fine, I haven't used them, They are not stamped .999, Other web sites say the 2002 is 90%. Marshall Dudley writes: What US coin is stamped .999%? It must be a bullion coin instead of a ciruculation coin. I am not aware of any circulation coins that are not an alloy. Marshall Yours Hank. http://hdka.myecom.net/ct/ct.htm http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.goingplatinum.com/member/hdka http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue71/wing2.html http://www.1heluva.com/cgi-bin/join.cgi?refer=17214 Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CStuberculosis
Stan: ASAP silver performed a study on the efficacy of colloidal silver against the bacteria, in-vitro. The time-kill study showed the elimination of ~ 97% bacteria in about 45 minutes. No disrespect intended to the fine folks at ASAP, but one could expect, roughly, a 40% increase in efficacy if a high quality colloidal silver were used. It's very hard to qualify a 45 minute time-kill study, and I would have liked to have seen a plot of the progress. If treating tuberculosis, I would personally approach the matter very aggressively, using a nebulizer ( or oxygen nebulizer preferrably ) every ten minutes for a period of at least two hours intervals, if tolerable, with a break after the two hour interval. Remember that in order for CS to be effective, it must maintain contact with the infection in sufficient concentration to continually reduce the bacterial counts. I've never personally seen a case of tuberculosis treated with CS, but I have had numerous opportunities to pit colloidal silver against some very severe lung infections. I have found that frequency of use is important, especially with bronchial infections, as very little ( relatively speaking ) of the silver remains coated on the bronchial tubes. Utilizing cayenne pepper of high HU mixed in warm water, by holding it in the mouth until one can no longer do so ( then swallowing ), rapidly assisted CS nebulizer use in the one infection I've encountered to date that did not completely respond to the colloidal silver. One utilizes the cayenne pepper orally just prior to nebulizing. It was quite amazing, actually. All of that said, I have no idea how effective it would be in the body against tuberculosis, but I would not hesitate to find out in short order. Best Regards, Jason Oh: http://www.amsilver.com/tuberculosis.html - Original Message - From: Stan Jarzylo sjarz...@cogeco.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: CStuberculosis Has anyone had any experience or have references on whether CS would be effective in destroying the tuberculosis bacteria? Thanks, Stan. J.
CSHyperthermia
HiIf anyone has any knowledge of hyperthermia.and its useor any success stories...I'd appreciate hearing what you have to say.I've been studying it and I'm also making feeble attempts to practice it...so far I've had some good.and some interesting effects from the heatthanks in advance.Robb
