CSnew to making own colloidal silver need help
some years ago i was interested to try cs, and i found how to make a device on the internet (can't find the document now), which i made and used. it didn't help me much then, so i stopped using it. recently i wanted to try using cs again, so i took out the device, and made some cs, took it, and it is apparently doing me some good now. so i researched making your own cs again, and there is much more on the web about this now, and i ended up with a lot of confusion and would like some help with the process. the device i have links together 3 9v batteries in series to produce 27v, it is also in series with 2 tiny lamps. the instructions i had were to make a solution of saturated salt. for this i used distilled water and used kosher salt from diamond crystal which is considered to be just salt. i disolved the salt till it wouldn't disolve any more. i then put in 2 drops of this into 8oz of distilled water, atttached 2 silver wires of .999 pure silver 13 guage to the device, and immersed it into the water. the immersed depth i have is 3 inches. when i ran it it produced a white colored cloud, which would disperse into the water. i was told to run it for about 1 minute for each ppm. i would run it for about 5-6 minutes. when i researched this some more, i found out that some consider this white cloud as sliver cloride which some consider dangerous, and some don't because it is not listed as harmful substance. and it is best to make cs in distilled water without and salt, and it should produce a yellowish colored liquid. another reason not to used the method i used was that silver particles are too large, and the yellow cs has much smaller particles. i tried various recomendations to get the yellow kind but couldn't acheive it. this is what i tried. i all cases i used distilled water. 1) i tired connecting the silver wires to a steady 30v dc power supply (from a electronic kit). i ran this almost for an hour and got only black stuff near and on the negative wire, but no yellow liquid. 2) i tired connecting the silver wires to the device i made. i ran this almost for an hour and got only black stuff near and on the negative wire, but no yellow liquid. 3) i tired connecting the silver wires to the device i made. and boiled the distilled water to make it hot, i ran this almost for an hour and got only black stuff near and on the negative wire, but no yellow liquid. what can i do to get the yellow cs and not needing to use the salt. i would also appreciate any other comments about things i should know i'm not looking for buying a device but to be able to make my own. thanks for any help ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSXylitol/SARS
From commomswnsemedicine.com Washing the nose regularly should also help to prevent SARS if you plan on traveling to an area where it is a problem. A son who regularly sprays his nose stayed at the hotel in Hong Kong at the hotel where SARS broke out of China into the rest of the world, and did not have any problems. One or two examples do make a good case for claims, but the logic is hard to refute. If you have a problem that starts in the nose then regularly washing your nose may help reduce the problem. the above is about a xylitol nasal spray From: Maja Hristozova majahristoz...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSXylitol Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 20:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Here is Xylitol website: http://www.nasal-xylitol.com/ _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSXylitol/SARS
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Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Yes. Just make sure they are all illuminated. If one of them is in shadow, you will get no output. --Steve Y. By the way, your panels are way overkill, and you still should use a current limiting device. Production of CS only takes 1 ma x a few volts = just a few milliwatts. You can use your panels to charge 9 volt nicads so you can make CS at night as well! --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels Just got my 12 VDC 1.5 watt Solar Panels from Harbor Freight. Could I connect 3 panels in series to produce 36 VDC? This would be a way to generate CS if the power was out or out camping. Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew to making own colloidal silver need help
On Sun, 11 May 2003 11:17:22 -0400 (EDT), ken archer keya...@worldnet.att.net wrote: thanks for any help ken Ken, you're ok. You just need some help with procedure and timing. Three batteries snapped together, or a wall wart battery eliminator, couple of clip leads, 2 silver wires 999 pure, distilled water. As you've already done, but run it no longer than 30 to 45 minutes. NO SALT! Heat the water if you want, not really necessary. You're just running it too long. Chuck Do Lipton Tea employees take coffee breaks? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Brickey, I received my solar panel a few days ago, I made a batch of CS, just run the panel to the wire, the panel was setting inside where the sun didn't shine, I got a reading of 16.4 on the hanna with a light gold color CS, Sorry I don't know how long it run. You only need one panel and it can be used on a cloudy day I do know that I put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and it works, So forget the statement of it being in the shadow. S J Young writes: Yes. Just make sure they are all illuminated. If one of them is in shadow, you will get no output. --Steve Y. By the way, your panels are way overkill, and you still should use a current limiting device. Production of CS only takes 1 ma x a few volts = just a few milliwatts. You can use your panels to charge 9 volt nicads so you can make CS at night as well! --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels Just got my 12 VDC 1.5 watt Solar Panels from Harbor Freight. Could I connect 3 panels in series to produce 36 VDC? This would be a way to generate CS if the power was out or out camping. Brickey Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Generation with ULVDC
Re: CSSilver Generation with ULVDC From: Robert Berger Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 06:52:52 Mike, It thrills me that you have made this breark through. Keep looking! The cathode can be a single rod of #14 of ANY metal. It is only the surface area of the anode that is effective. For the cathode I use a 3/64 piece of brazing rod. It silver plates in a very short time. Ole Bob Hi Ole Bob, The early runs with asymmetrical anode and cathode area seemed to work well. However, attempts to operate with equal area rods is turning out to be problematic. The last run using 0.9 sq. in. rods formed into a J to clear the bottom of a short glass seemed to hit a plateau at 1.228V - the voltage you mentioned was the ionization voltage of water. When I disturbed the system, the voltage would go below this voltage, then slowly rise to meet it. If I managed to get it above, it fell back to the same voltage. So maybe I accidentally made a cell that measures the ionization voltage:) I'm continuing with a larger glass and the same rods, but I changed the series resistor to 25k shortly after the start of a run. This produced an interesting oscillation of about 1V p-p in the cell voltage, indicating there seems to be a battery effect. I think a similar effect was observed by others in the archives. I won't clog up the list with the detailed measurements, but they are available to anyone who wants them. Reversing the applied voltage seems to help when the mist starts appearing around the cathode. But I'd like a system that didn't require constant obervation and fiddling. It might be necessary to add a small CMOS switch to reverse the polarity at some interval. This would be inexpensive, but it could be one more thing to go wrong. After this run, I'll try using a constant voltage source of 3V to 6V with a low value resistor and see what that does. Maybe the asymmetrical rod area is a key part of the process. Some of the runs produced the strongest cs I have ever made, and none of the solutions have turned yellow and plated out. So it seems this is well worth pursuing. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow. Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
I hate Myecom.net mail but it is free. I don't know if this was sent or not so am resending. Love ya'll BR Hank BR BTY ole bob and some others will say I don't know what I have (as I haven't had it tested by them). I don't care I do know I will have some CS, Some is better than none right? You can't beat the price for two silver wires and a solar panel. Love you all. BR BR hdka writes: BR BR BR Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as BR the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 BR watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow. BR BR Sincerely Yours, Hank. BR Very Interesting Sites BR http://www.babelmagazine.com BR http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html BR http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html BR http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html BR http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html BR http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html BR
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Re: CSnew to making own colloidal silver need help
Poor Ken. We all got the same misinformation and confusion when we started, so I really know how you feel. It will take a while to deprogram the junk you have read out of your mind, so please be patient. It's a good sign that you dicovered on your own that adding salt is a bad idea. This means you are self-correcting and can sort out the good information from the bad. You need it when dealing with cs:) The black stuff on the cathode is silver oxide. It comes from running the process too long at too high current. It doesn't do any good except to waste silver and your time. The gold color is not necessarily a good thing. It means your process is running at too high a current density, and the resulting large particles are agglomerating and plating out. This doesn't do any good either, since the stuff sticking to the side of the glass can't kill the bugs in your body. Most people strive for a pale straw color or perfectly clear. The constant voltage that you are using process starts with a low current that builds exponentially. You need to get a cheap dvm to monitor the current to tell when to stop the process. I think Chuck recently posted information on a model from Harbor Freight is available for some rediculous low price. Get one before they discover their mistake:) Then look at the recent posts on multimeters and how to keep from blowing the fuse. A simple resistor in series will save you many trips to Radio Shack. (BTW - I just blew the fuse on my multimeter. These newfangled alkalines have a lot more juice than the old carbon-zinc that I grew up with:) Measure the initial current when you first apply voltage. This tells you the quality of your distilled water. It should be well below 1mA, preferably in the range of 0.1 to 0.6mA. A low value means the quality is too high and it will take a long time to reach the cutoff point. A high initial current means the distilled water is poor and full of impurities. You can find better water but you have to search for it. Look at WallMart, various pharmacies, and different grocery stores. You might want to stop the process when it reaches 2 mA or so. Be careful - it increases very rapidly at the end and will catch you off-guard. You can use the salt test to detect the presence of silver ions. See my article at http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/misc/130vdc.htm for more information. Please do not try the 130V generator described in the article. I am working on a better process and may post more information soon. Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMore Questions for Ole Bob
Andy, The question is, why do you want to concentrate the CS??? Several months ago Hawheye, Jensen co. published an invitro study where they used 20 ppm, diluted to 10 ppm, diluted to 3 ppm, and diluted to 1 ppm.. They had two bacteria and two viri in the study. The results were amazing They only published the results of the 3, 10, and 20 ppm as that is what they sold. The 3 ppm was several orders of magnitude more effective than either the 10 or 20, and the 10 was more effective than the 20. Stephen Quintro of natural-immunogenics raised the question as to why they didn't publish the data for the 1 ppm, as his studies showed that 1 ppm was the most effective. To back that up recently I did some development for a European company, and they shared this information with me. One of their customers has a 1,60,000 sq. ft. greenhouse that was used to raise cucumbers. It developed a mosaic and the government said plow it up and replant with another crop. My contact gave them 15 ppm CS and said to dilute 1 to 1000, which made 20 to 40 ppb. That's right parts per billion!!! In four weeks time the greenhouse was clean and the owner said that the cucumbers were the largest he had ever raised. We Americans has the strange idea that more is better. It would be worth your while to look into homeopathy, where medicines are diluted as much as 10,000 to 1 or more. As for making various protocols of CS I just received my 16th box of Hach chemicals for my spect.. and each box will make 50 tests. About 350 test have been for others. the balance, 400, have been for my own investigations. Every new protocol someone comes up with I try and log the data. Not all of it gets plotted Ole Bob A -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Ok I couldn't wait till dark. I retested the D/W and got 0.08 on Hanna I guess the old glass had something in it. I have it set up where no outside light can get to it. It is 100 watt light bulb. I am going to test it every hour. PS: Brickey if the light is blinking it is putting out juice. Start new CS solar test 8:07 pm 0.08 1 hr Will post in one hr. hdka writes: Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow. Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Okay it has been one hour and I now have 1.6 on the Hanna. It was .8 not .08 to start. the #12 wire is 1 1/2 in apart 4 1/2 wet. I'll post again in one hr. hdka writes: Ok I couldn't wait till dark. I retested the D/W and got 0.08 on Hanna I guess the old glass had something in it. I have it set up where no outside light can get to it. It is 100 watt light bulb. I am going to test it every hour. PS: Brickey if the light is blinking it is putting out juice. Start new CS solar test 8:07 pm 0.08 1 hr Will post in one hr. hdka writes: Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow. Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew to making own colloidal silver need help
Ken, Here's something to try. Take one 9V battery, put a 22k resistor in series with one lead, and connect it to your rods. You should have about 4 inches of wetted length, and the glass should be the same length as the leads or 1/2 to 1 inch longer. If the glass is a bit short, bend the ends of the leads into a small J so the ends clear the glass. The actual clearance is not critical. Measure the initial voltage across the cell when the power is first applied. Ideally you should measure from 2.5 to 3.5 volts, which indicates the purity of the distilled water. If you measure a much lower voltage, get better water. If it is much higher, the water is actually quite pure but it may take a long time to climb up the exponential curve and start making cs. The voltage may increase but it should start decreasing after it reaches a peak. Wait 5 to 8 hours or until you see a grey mist, or when black specs fall off the electrode when you shake the glass. It's done. The black specs are silver oxide and are perfectly harmless to drink. Some people want to filter them, but the filter paper may be bleached and tend to convert the silver ions to silver chloride. I wouldn't bother. Pour 1 inch of the solution into a small glass. Add a few grains of salt. In a few minutes, you should see a nice blue/grey dispersion. It should be unmistakable - you shouldn't have to hunt for it. Congratulations - you have just made some pretty good colloidal silver. And it won't turn yellow and plate out on you. But it sure will kill bugs! Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSchest congestion--nebulizer--proportions
I have forgotten the correct proportions, but it is something like this---dissolve as much msm in cs as is possible. Then use about 90 to 95 % of this mix with the rest dmso. Nebulize. Not too long at first as you may create a lot of mucus. I forget how often to do this. The www.silvermedicine.org site has a lot of information, but I don't think they have this particular protocol, though B. Bradley certainly knows all of it. In fact, I think he originated it and he is ( I think) largely the author and owner of this site. Sorry I am not more certain of so much!! You will enjoy the site anyway. pj - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CSMore Questions for Ole Bob
Ole Bob, Thank you for the response. The studies you mention are fascinating, although a little hard for me to understand. I grew up in an era that taught if a little is good, a lot is better. Do you have any theories on why a diluted solution of CS would be more effective than a more concentrated one? The whole idea of this leaves me baffled. PS - Keep up the good work creating, duplicating and documenting different protocols for the manufacture of CS. I think we all appreciate your work. I know that I do. Best Regards, Andy From: Robert Berger Andy, The question is, why do you want to concentrate the CS??? Several months ago Hawheye, Jensen co. published an invitro study where they used 20 ppm, diluted to 10 ppm, diluted to 3 ppm, and diluted to 1 ppm.. They had two bacteria and two viri in the study. The results were amazing They only published the results of the 3, 10, and 20 ppm as that is what they sold. The 3 ppm was several orders of magnitude more effective than either the 10 or 20, and the 10 was more effective than the 20. Stephen Quintro of natural-immunogenics raised the question as to why they didn't publish the data for the 1 ppm, as his studies showed that 1 ppm was the most effective. To back that up recently I did some development for a European company, and they shared this information with me. One of their customers has a 1,60,000 sq. ft. greenhouse that was used to raise cucumbers. It developed a mosaic and the government said plow it up and replant with another crop. My contact gave them 15 ppm CS and said to dilute 1 to 1000, which made 20 to 40 ppb. That's right parts per billion!!! In four weeks time the greenhouse was clean and the owner said that the cucumbers were the largest he had ever raised. We Americans has the strange idea that more is better. It would be worth your while to look into homeopathy, where medicines are diluted as much as 10,000 to 1 or more. As for making various protocols of CS I just received my 16th box of Hach chemicals for my spect.. and each box will make 50 tests. About 350 test have been for others. the balance, 400, have been for my own investigations. Every new protocol someone comes up with I try and log the data. Not all of it gets plotted Ole Bob
