RE: CSRe: constipation
Hi Ed, this is a shot in the dark, but what about using Vitamin C to tolerance - that is until her stools are softer, not the runs? Even if it meant a little sugar, the chewable C's are usually accepted by kids. Just another idea, dunno if it's advisable in this situation but hope it helps. Malcolm At 09:52 AM 5/18/03 -0700, you wrote: I blame my 5 year old's chronic constipation on those vaccinations (which I was against - but my wife insisted upon and so did the schools) When another child in her school came down with whooping cough (who had been vaccinated) all those children who not complete their series of shots (mine) were sent home for 14 days. I got her back in school after much discussion with the local government claiming that I stopped the shots because of the constipation which I believed were caused by the their shots. They denied it but let my child back in schools mainly because most of he time would have expired by then - right before the spring break. I have not given her CS because I did not seeing it fitting the parameters. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 4/8/03
RE: CSOT Master cleanse requests....
When you sign into Jays yahoo email just go to the inbox. I found the master cleanser there. Good luck Linda Hefferman edkas...@pacbell edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Jay, I went to yahoo.com and signed in using your info. but do not know where in yahooland to look. :(( ed -Original Message- From: Jay Ice [mailto:guess...@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:27 PM To: silver-list Subject: CSOT Master cleanse requests My computer has gone wacko. I can't send the master cleanse out for some odd reason no matter what address I use. but never fear I have set up a free account at yahoo for anyone who wants it...all ya gotta do is go and get it. USERNAME: mastercleanse2003 PASSWORD: getclean Good luck and happy reading :) Jay -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.480 / Virus Database: 276 - Release Date: 5/12/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.480 / Virus Database: 276 - Release Date: 5/12/2003 - Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Re: CSMailbox reply
Ref: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59136.html Another thought. The edge effect may be much like skin effect on a conductor at high frequencies. In this case, the dimensions and shape of the conductor influence the results. It would be nice to compare the cell resistance using two 1/4 inch flat strips 0.013 inches thick and 4 inches wetted depth with 12 ga wire rods also with a 4 inch wetted depth. I have a 2D modeller I use for high frequency and thermal resistance work. It can be used for magnetic fields, and also basic electrostatics. Pure water has a dielectric constant that varies a bit with temperature, but we can use the value 80. Please see DIELECTRIC CONSTANT REFERENCE GUIDE http://www.asiinstr.com/dc1.html A value of 80 is extremely high compared to most insulators. It would be interesting to see if the modeller can tell us how the field changes when the dielectric constant changes from air to water. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS doesn't work ...
Dear Tom: Evidently you weren't paying attention. Perhaps you should reread my post again and again until you understand it. You seem to be saying that I claimed CS doesn't work - I don't see that anywhere in my post. You go on to say that I am bashing people, trying so hard it seems to throw a wrench into the works and discrediting CS and the people that use it. Once again, reread the post instead of trying to read things into the post. You also made reference to a web site that has nothing to do with the discussion and you went on to ramble about Bats, Mosquitoes and Dollars. I'm not sure where you were going with that one, but if you would like to take it up on the OT list I would be happy to discuss it further. To refresh your memory, we were discussing the claim that CS kills 600+ pathogens. I said The statement is probably true, but I've never seen references to the actual lab tests. Perhaps with your excellent research skills, you can find this study and post it to the list. I think we would all like to put this CS urban legend to bed once and for all. Or, If you just want to rant and rave some more about CS, there is a gal named Rosemary Jacobs and a web site called quackwatch that you can be paranoid about. Just don't try and twist my words around. Andy From: Tom Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 07:02:36 Here is an article on Utopia Silvers site from a 1914 Scientific American, while this isn't about all the 650+ pathogens it touches on the scientific AND documented proof that it does work there is documented proof all over if you look. Also if you want to find the pathogens that it is effective on go out and buy some of the books the some of these sites say their article refrences, back about the time colloidal silver was abandoned (1930s) here in the US in favor of synthesized antibiotics research was being done in the UK on a broad scale of colloidal metals most of these books are used as reference for these articles which is mainly edited information from the same article. There is plenty of proof out there if you decide to look. The UCLA BYU and the University of Noth Texas studies. I haven't been using CS for long but what I have used it on works great as with MSM as well. I don't know if you use CS and I don't care but it bothers me when I see someone who comes into this list making claims that it doesn't work when they themselves have not verified squat wants to know what research what pathogens this that and the other. If you look you will find. When I first started using CS I believe I was questioned about the same thing by you as a matter of fact after I made a mention how good I felt taking CS, and in all honesty I really didn't have answer well now I do, instead of bashing people about it, go and look for yourself, you trying so hard it seems to throw a wrench into the works, do some research yourself, and if you say you can't find anything you are either not looking or just discrediting CS and the people that use it. My advice to everyone is to use the internet, to search these claims, use their bibliographies and order some of these book, you can get them on amazon ,barnes and noble and other online book sites, sometimes you can even get first editions which are a little expensive but nice to have. For instance you can still get this book which our government would like people not to know about. Bats, Mosquitoes and Dollars http://search.ba rnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=Bats%2C+Mosquitoes+and+Doll arsuserid=2TX8DV7US7 it explains some diseases and how insects are the carriers and this includes smallpox and contagious it really isn't. When I find this stuff it amazes me that our government and health system would rather poison us with unproven vaccines than to admit cleanliness and sanitation are the reason smallpox has been eradicated. What bothers me even more is that for the most part we as a people actually believe the crap that they tell us. From: ascottsil...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: CSCS doesn't work ... Slow down Jay. I know someone once said that CS kills over 600 different pathogens. It has been quoted over and over by unscrupulous CS manufactures, but I don't think the statement has ever been qualified. The statement is probably true, but I've never seen references to the actual lab tests. It's most likely a bad marketing tool. When you see statements like KILLS OVER 600 DIFFERENT PATHOGENS on someone's web site, assume they are selling sewer water. If they lie about their claims, they are probably lying about their product. Ask the people who put this crap on their web page things like: Who made this study? When? Where? Where is it published? What strength of CS was used? What specific pathogens? Was a control group used? If someone really spent the time
Re: CSCS doesn't work ...
ascottsil...@aol.com wrote: Slow down Jay. I know someone once said that CS kills over 600 different pathogens. It has been quoted over and over by unscrupulous CS manufactures, but I don't think the statement has ever been qualified. The statement is probably true, but I've never seen references to the actual lab tests. It's most likely a bad marketing tool. When you see statements like KILLS OVER 600 DIFFERENT PATHOGENS on someone's web site, assume they are selling sewer water. If they lie about their claims, they are probably lying about their product. Ask the people who put this crap on their web page things like: Who made this study? When? Where? Where is it published? Check the archives, the original publication was given some time ago. It was in something like Explore magazine sometime I believe in the 80's. There should be messages in the archives that give the exact name and date of the article. Marshall What strength of CS was used? What specific pathogens? Was a control group used? If someone really spent the time and money to obtain, grow and kill 600 cultures of different pathogens with CS wouldn't you think that it would be published in a scientific journal? Best wishes, Andy (^_^) From: Jay Ice Pretty bold statementbut I can understand where your comeing from. No CS is not a cureall and neither is a medication. There is no all-porpose cure, but what medication do you know that CAN kill over 600 different bacteria/virus and fungus?
Re: CSAbout, nasty rash
Hi: A solution to Poison Oak insults is to clean the areas that might have been contacted with a paper towel wetted with Ammoniac water, just as it comes from the bottle or diluted to 50%. I have poison oak in my own yard and I used to get contaminated a couple of times a year, I do not know if the ammoniac water works after the itching begins because I have never suffered it again ( in the last 5 years) since I always use it, in case of doubt. Regards Peter R -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS650 Diseases
This is the reference where the 650 diseases came from: Silver, Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, ScienceDigest, March 1978. As an antibiotic, colloidal silver kills over 650 disease causing organisms, and resistant strains fail to develop. Silver is the best all-around germ fighter we have and is absolutely non-toxic! Doctors report that, taken internally, it works against syphilis, cholera, malaria, diabetes and severe burns. Richard L. Davies, executive director of the Silver Institute which monitors silver technology in 37 countries, reports: In four years we've described 87 important new medical uses for silver. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT Master cleanse requests....
Someone has already done this. Found it in a yahoo search for Master Cleanse. http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/7244/master_cleanse.html - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: Re: CSOT Master cleanse requests Jay, open a Yahoo Group and post it there as a file. Put all settings as open to the public them no noe even has to join the group to get it. Then you can just post the URL. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnasty rash
I met someone who did the same thing with Clorox. I guess both would remove the oil. - Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 6:12 PM Subject: Re: CSnasty rash Jay, The liquid in the blisters is a vesicant just like musterd gas. When on the farm I would wash the area with gasoline and keep it dry. I also would break the blisters and clean up with gasoline. Maybe crude but it worked for me. I am redheaded and very fair skinned and I can catch the stuff by looking at it!! Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT Master cleanse requests....
Yer good, Linda! I couldn't figger it out until your post. I was looking for a group. Chuck What do people in China call their good plates? On Mon, 19 May 2003 02:13:27 -0400 (EDT), Linda Hefferman lindahef...@yahoo.ca wrote: When you sign into Jays yahoo email just go to the inbox. I found the master cleanser there. Good luck Linda Hefferman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: constipation
I have had a similar problem most of my life and it hasn't been until recently that I have seemingly resolved the problem. I started taking CS about 1-1/2 years ago on a daily basis, we also put it in our drinking water. After a really bad bout with constipation as my system was cleaning itself out of all the toxins, etc., I have found that I no longer have a problem with it. In addition to the CS I try to make sure I drink plenty of water daily and I do try to make sure I eat enough fiber (i.e., a handful of grape-nuts a day helps!). I know how miserable it is to have very hard, dry movements and hope this helps some. Patti -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: constipation/ formula
I had a terrific problem 5 years ago. I was overdosed on tetracycline for 6 months(Dr thought I had Lyme disease). I had lead poisoning instead. My bowels essentially shut down. I tried everything from laxatives to suppositories to enemas. Nothing worked. I then found out about a formula of : curaco and cape aloe leaf, senna leaves and pods,cascara sagrada bark, Jamacian ginger rhizome, barbarry root bark,garlic and habanero pepper. . I use a capsule every other day now to produce 2 nice soft bowel movements a day, min. I don't drink enough water or eat enough fiber yet, but I still am regular. TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Patricia King hpk...@peoplepc.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: constipation Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:07:37 -0400 I have had a similar problem most of my life and it hasn't been until recently that I have seemingly resolved the problem. I started taking CS about 1-1/2 years ago on a daily basis, we also put it in our drinking water. After a really bad bout with constipation as my system was cleaning itself out of all the toxins, etc., I have found that I no longer have a problem with it. In addition to the CS I try to make sure I drink plenty of water daily and I do try to make sure I eat enough fiber (i.e., a handful of grape-nuts a day helps!). I know how miserable it is to have very hard, dry movements and hope this helps some. Patti -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
CSCS and BYU again
Thanks to all for the links to the BYU studies, but it seems to me there should be a lot more to it. Upto about a year ago there was a site with a table that directly compared CS to five popular antibiotics. This was a very graphic comparison, CS clearly superior. Has this site been dismantled? Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS doesn't work ...
I don't know about the exact number but if you look in virtually any scientific encyclopedia you'll find that silvers antimicrobial action has been well known for a long long time. Kills 650 [or more] pathogens is most likely accurate...in a test tube. even at concentrations of 1 PPM. Silver products have been used for water treatment for a long time. But kills 605 pathogens is not the same as cures 650 diseases. Delivery is the key. It's gotta it get TO them critters somehow. The body is not test tube. The only cure all magic bullet is the one you got shot in the head with. Everything else is a treatment with relative degrees of successful results. If the results are 100% elimination of causes, it's called cured. CS does help in many cases where nothing else did even if it didn't cure. [and sometimes it does cure] ken At 12:54 AM 5/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: Slow down Jay. I know someone once said that CS kills over 600 different pathogens. It has been quoted over and over by unscrupulous CS manufactures, but I don't think the statement has ever been qualified. The statement is probably true, but I've never seen references to the actual lab tests. It's most likely a bad marketing tool. When you see statements like KILLS OVER 600 DIFFERENT PATHOGENS on someone's web site, assume they are selling sewer water. If they lie about their claims, they are probably lying about their product. Ask the people who put this crap on their web page things like: Who made this study? When? Where? Where is it published? What strength of CS was used? What specific pathogens? Was a control group used? If someone really spent the time and money to obtain, grow and kill 600 cultures of different pathogens with CS wouldn't you think that it would be published in a scientific journal? Best wishes, Andy (^_^) From: Jay Ice Pretty bold statementbut I can understand where your comeing from. No CS is not a cureall and neither is a medication. There is no all-porpose cure, but what medication do you know that CAN kill over 600 different bacteria/virus and fungus? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOle Bob/ Poison ivy treatment
Years ago I was camping and took a nature hike and learned from the lady that was leading the group that Jewelweed is the natural cure of poison ivy, poison oak, etc. We have used it several times in our family and given it to many friends and it always works. The plant usually grows in wet areas where poison ivy grows and has a tuberous stem. The flowers appear in the fall and are a golden yellow (looks like a ladyslipper-type flower). The seed pods are neat because if you touch the bottom of them they pop (we used to call it popweed). You take the plant (all parts) and steep it in water for about 1/2 hour; then strain and store the liquid in the freezer (ice cube trays work the best) or you can put it in canning jars and store it that way. You dab the liquid on your rash several times a day and it drys it up, usually within a day or two. It keeps in the fridge for about 48 hours, but frozen or canned we have kept it for over a year. With the ice cubes you can pull out and thaw what you need, when you need it. My pastor had gotten poison ivy a year ago and had gone to the Dr. with it. He had been put on 2-3 different types of medication and after a couple weeks just kept getting worse. When I found out that he had poison ivy, I gave him some of my jewelweed tea and he was almost completely cleared up in 2 days. Another lady then got it at my church and I told her about using the Jewelweed. She said she knew where she had some of those plants and would try it, but didn't. After 2 weeks and almost having to be hospitalized because of her face swelling and other problems, I took her some that was already brewed and after using it once, her face began to go back to normal and within 12 hours of putting it on several times throughout the day, her face was back to normal and it completely got rid of her condition. Hope this helps you out, Jay. Patti -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS doesn't work ...
ehhh, I don't know to much but I'm beginning to think your cup is half empty, mine is half full... with CS. lol. this was posted a bit ago, anti-biotic... anti = against, biotic = life against + life = against life. not only the life of the pathogen but yours as well. I have never been digging and said wow I have struck anti-biotics! :) What ever you choose to put in your body is up to you. To each his own Good Luck, but I will keep it natural as can be. Jay - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: CSCS doesn't work ... I don't know about the exact number but if you look in virtually any scientific encyclopedia you'll find that silvers antimicrobial action has been well known for a long long time. Kills 650 [or more] pathogens is most likely accurate...in a test tube. even at concentrations of 1 PPM. Silver products have been used for water treatment for a long time. But kills 605 pathogens is not the same as cures 650 diseases. Delivery is the key. It's gotta it get TO them critters somehow. The body is not test tube. The only cure all magic bullet is the one you got shot in the head with. Everything else is a treatment with relative degrees of successful results. If the results are 100% elimination of causes, it's called cured. CS does help in many cases where nothing else did even if it didn't cure. [and sometimes it does cure] ken At 12:54 AM 5/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: Slow down Jay. I know someone once said that CS kills over 600 different pathogens. It has been quoted over and over by unscrupulous CS manufactures, but I don't think the statement has ever been qualified. The statement is probably true, but I've never seen references to the actual lab tests. It's most likely a bad marketing tool. When you see statements like KILLS OVER 600 DIFFERENT PATHOGENS on someone's web site, assume they are selling sewer water. If they lie about their claims, they are probably lying about their product. Ask the people who put this crap on their web page things like: Who made this study? When? Where? Where is it published? What strength of CS was used? What specific pathogens? Was a control group used? If someone really spent the time and money to obtain, grow and kill 600 cultures of different pathogens with CS wouldn't you think that it would be published in a scientific journal? Best wishes, Andy (^_^) From: Jay Ice Pretty bold statementbut I can understand where your comeing from. No CS is not a cureall and neither is a medication. There is no all-porpose cure, but what medication do you know that CAN kill over 600 different bacteria/virus and fungus? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Maibox Replies #1
Comments on the comments from silverpuppy At 01:42 PM 5/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: To List, Well, I appreciate the opportunity to help people who email me with questions, but it is starting to take too much time, and probably the questions should be posted to the list so others have a chance to comment. From now on, I will post any email I get regarding cs, but remove the sender's full name or any personal information that may cause embarrassement. Here's one that asks my opinion on two commercial cs generators: Hi Mike: I am a lurker on the silver list and barely understand what ya'll are talking about. I am about to get my first generator and have it down to two, the silverpuppy and the silvergen the $99.00 deals. For one who cannot program a VCR what would you suggest? Also, I cannot find anywhere that tells me the shelf life of CS. If I have the Silverpuppy what would the shelf life be? I plan on using the CS for my family and Labradors (5) and BullDog (1)...especially for the dogs drinking water. Shelf life from both the silverpuppy and the silvergen should be virtually forever. I [silverpuppy dude] have however had a very few batches go violet in a month or so. I believe this to be the result of me spitting into the [clear glass] bottle while 'chugging' directly from it. The other half of the same batch did not turn colors. ken Hi Becky, Thanks for the email. I have not used either model, but from what I can glean from their web sites, I'd go with the silverpuppy. Here's why: SilverPuppy --- http://www.silverpuppy.com/current%20controlled%20CS%20generator.html 2] Uses 7 looped electrodes in a configuration that presents no edges to the water for excellent edge discharge characteristics and greater surface area. [Electrodes are twice the length as the ones for the old Standard Series 1 generator, 12 gauge .999+ pure silver] Surface area of 12 gauge wire is exactly the same as one side of a 1/4 flat ribbon of the same length. Total surface area for 7 = 3.2 sq submerged with no edges to erode prematurely. Wire is stronger, easier to handle, mount and swap from side to side for even wear. 1/4 x .13 flat silver is extremly flimsy , hard to keep flat and parallel, and most of the ion discharge is from the side facing the other electrode. Ion Discharge from 6 edges and 4 corners makes a flat electrode erode into a V shape. 3] Makes Colloidal Silver faster and better than the old non stirred Standard model. Discard the hype about faster and better. Everyone makes that claim. ###It's an accurate statement comparing the new model to the old...not to anyone elses generators. I don't know how fast or good anyone elses generators are. [I can surmise and have tried some others and can predict some of the 'bad' design elements though. [some I tried are REALLY bad. Most will do a fair job with attention, care and some instrumentation..and quite a bit of knowledge.] I try not to engage in hype..but it's hard to do that and still engage in promotion sometimes. ken I agree that 12 ga wire is stronger, easier to clean, and easier to handle. It makes no difference in swapping from side to side to equalize wear as they claim. ### The reason to swap electrodes [between batches] for even wear is due to the fact that silver is donated only by one electrode and you'll get longer life from the electrodes if one of them doesn't go away faster than the other. Polarity switching would do the same thing with a lot more circuitry. ken The 3.2 square inches is a generous amount of wetted area. Just to check their calculation, if the electrodes are 7 inches long, the total length of wire is 14 inches. 12 ga wire is 0.25 square inch per inch, so 14 inches of wire has an area of 3.5 square inches, not counting the bend at the bottom. So, their calculation is reasonable and probably correct. ## 7 is the total length...about 6.5 whetted.The current controls kick in at .94 to 1 ma. You can add that to your current density calculations. I think Trem uses about the same current. The old models with 3 3/8 electrodes ran at .7 ma. You could easily see the edge discharge phenomenon at the one circular edge. I don't have any of Trems [silvergen] generators but by all accounts, they are very good. We have decided that we are not in competition, we just have slightly different philosophies. [yes, we do talk] I lean towards idiot proof operation and personal use. Some of Trems gens have lots of bells and whistles that an experimentor might find useful. Ken [silverpuppy] Also, this unit comes with a thermal stirrer which some say helps produce better quality. I have not
Re: CS Maibox Replies #1
You might want to try adding an occasional manual stir to that..maybe the straw color will go away? [straw color as in ...similar to weak tea with that darkish taint to pale clear yellow] Also, place your water jug in a warm place loosely capped for a few days and see if any bubbles form on the sides. That would most likely be dissolved ozone gas which can make a batch come out straw colored. [most if not all commercial distilled water is ozonated, some is very heavily ozonated..ozone reacts with silver ions to form suspended oxides. Silver oxides are harmless.] I think heating the water very hot [boiling?] and allowing to cool before use will outgas the ozone too. I have made some yellow batches with the old model silverpuppy. [None with the new model, but the water may not be as heavily ozonated around here anymore] Other batches came out clear with the same water and generator after outgassing it. You don't need color as an strength indicator. ;-) [not that it hurts anything] Remind me how you measure PPM? ken [Ode] At 08:37 PM 5/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: Ode Coyote modified my silverpuppy to make gallon batches. Stir is by heat plate supplied by him, getting 16 ppm with auto shutoff. Light straw color, barely perceptible tyndall.. Very happy, thanks silverpuppy. - Original Message - From: Mike Monett ncrffn...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: CS Maibox Replies #1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: America's Concentration Camps
Has anyone else come across these sites? Yes, Roxanne, like you, I've been bookmarking these items of interest as they pop up. Yours is the most complete I've seen, thanks! Here's a couple more: http://www.c0balt.com/egg/camps/ http://www.tackamarks.freeservers.com/ jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: America's Concentration Camps
Mea culpa---meant for the OT list. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMailbox reply
Edge discharge is easy to see. Just compare the mist as it comes off the electrode edge with that which comes off the rest of the electrode. Electroplaters attach bleed off wires to prevent burnt and grainy looking thick accumulations of plating on edges so they can still use enough current to reach inside the holes. Most electroplating electrodes come as flat bars. They erode into a V shape with rounded edges also becoming sorter and shorter till they have a big fat top and a pointy round bottom...points go faster than the edges. Plain wire with the end exposed will sharpen into a point but the wire gets pretty darned thin before the wire actually gets shorter. The looped wire with no ends in the water seem to go away pretty evenly retaining full length till they get too flimsy to handle. You would think that the current desity would go up as the wires get thinner, but they also get pitted and the pits increase surface area. I don't recall seeing a used up electroplate electrode bar with pits. [I was an electroplater long ago..copper, zinc and nickel..some gold.] Opposite sides of a flat bar are further apart than the sides facing. Ion discharge from opposite faces have to go around the bar on a longer path. Longer distance equals higher resistance...fewer ions. [also lower currrent density] ode [aka ken] At 02:54 AM 5/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: Ref: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59136.html Another thought. The edge effect may be much like skin effect on a conductor at high frequencies. In this case, the dimensions and shape of the conductor influence the results. It would be nice to compare the cell resistance using two 1/4 inch flat strips 0.013 inches thick and 4 inches wetted depth with 12 ga wire rods also with a 4 inch wetted depth. I have a 2D modeller I use for high frequency and thermal resistance work. It can be used for magnetic fields, and also basic electrostatics. Pure water has a dielectric constant that varies a bit with temperature, but we can use the value 80. Please see DIELECTRIC CONSTANT REFERENCE GUIDE http://www.asiinstr.com/dc1.html A value of 80 is extremely high compared to most insulators. It would be interesting to see if the modeller can tell us how the field changes when the dielectric constant changes from air to water. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS650 Diseases
Marshall Dudley5/19/03 6:46 AM This is the reference where the 650 diseases came from: Silver, Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, ScienceDigest, March 1978. ** The 1978 reference to 650 diseases was probably referring to an article from some time in the mid 1930s -- the source for that specific number (650) has never been attributed to any specific research results as far as I can find out. I asked for the source for the 650 number about 4 monthsago -- result? nada. I question the accuracy of that stated amount. But whatever the true number may be, the important thing is that CS is damned effective at killing off lotsa bad stuff. Jack A Crocodile Cannot Stick Its Tongue Out. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCurrent from both sides
Hi Mike, First I do not calculate conductance, I measure it!!! I set up an DMM with an AC current scale. and made it into an mho meter. The AC supply is from a 120 to 12 volt xfmr loaded with back to back 9 volt zeners and a 5 K pot. in series. I adjust the voltage so that a 100k 1% resistor measures 10 uS or micro mhos. I have a one cubic centimeter cell made out of two 1 cm X 3 cm plates mounted on a 1 cm thick plastic handle so that 1 cm projects from the end of the plastic. The backsides and edges are insulated. Works GREAT!! The anode is curved to a 2 radius and the rod cathode (3/64 brass) is 1 3/4 from the anode, almost on the center of the theoretical circle. The edges on one of my plates have been rolled, another I have insulated them with lacquer. The mounting point for the sheets are on the back side down about 1 or 2 inches from the top. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSShelfing CS/Becky
Hi EIS'ers, When I first got inot this business about 1998 I found all of the Old Wives Tales about light, heat, freezing, and magnets and proceeded to demolish all of them. Those who know Rich Admas, he lives here in KC MO and has visited me several times and has seen the dated bottles sitting in my south window. clear 2 liter cola bottles. I have some out over a winter freezing and thawing with no changes. BUT there is one cavaet. ALL of my material is 95+ ionic silver. If you have a bright T.E. you will get the silver particles (colloids) coming out of suspension. Hey that might be one way to get rid of the rascals. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMailbox reply
Mike, In days gone by I use telodeos (sp) paper for field plotting but can not find a source for a few sheets. It would work great for this study. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Mailbox reply
Most electroplating electrodes come as flat bars. They erode into a V shape... points go faster than the edges---Ken What might happen with a globular-shaped electrode? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMailbox reply
This is great for you guys selling 1000s of gal of CS, Do you really think I will use up the 6 inches of#12 wire in my life time? for my own uses. (I am 67) Sincerely Yours, Hank http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: Re: CSMailbox reply Edge discharge is easy to see. Just compare the mist as it comes off the electrode edge with that which comes off the rest of the electrode. Electroplaters attach bleed off wires to prevent burnt and grainy looking thick accumulations of plating on edges so they can still use enough current to reach inside the holes. Most electroplating electrodes come as flat bars. They erode into a V shape with rounded edges also becoming sorter and shorter till they have a big fat top and a pointy round bottom...points go faster than the edges. Plain wire with the end exposed will sharpen into a point but the wire gets pretty darned thin before the wire actually gets shorter. The looped wire with no ends in the water seem to go away pretty evenly retaining full length till they get too flimsy to handle. You would think that the current desity would go up as the wires get thinner, but they also get pitted and the pits increase surface area. I don't recall seeing a used up electroplate electrode bar with pits. [I was an electroplater long ago..copper, zinc and nickel..some gold.] Opposite sides of a flat bar are further apart than the sides facing. Ion discharge from opposite faces have to go around the bar on a longer path. Longer distance equals higher resistance...fewer ions. [also lower currrent density] ode [aka ken] At 02:54 AM 5/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: Ref: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59136.html Another thought. The edge effect may be much like skin effect on a conductor at high frequencies. In this case, the dimensions and shape of the conductor influence the results. It would be nice to compare the cell resistance using two 1/4 inch flat strips 0.013 inches thick and 4 inches wetted depth with 12 ga wire rods also with a 4 inch wetted depth. I have a 2D modeller I use for high frequency and thermal resistance work. It can be used for magnetic fields, and also basic electrostatics. Pure water has a dielectric constant that varies a bit with temperature, but we can use the value 80. Please see DIELECTRIC CONSTANT REFERENCE GUIDE http://www.asiinstr.com/dc1.html A value of 80 is extremely high compared to most insulators. It would be interesting to see if the modeller can tell us how the field changes when the dielectric constant changes from air to water. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGood source of silver wire
Arnold Beland4/5/03 5:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 5:34 AM Subject: Re: CSGood source of silver wire OK, heads up, 36 inches, 3 feet., 1 ounce of 12 gauge with copy of assay certificate, free shipping USA, no limit, only for members of the CS list, this month only. Just use my email address for paypal: abela...@atlasnova.com Best Regards, Arnold Beland Hi Arnold, what do you have available for May? Jack Dayton j...@cslist.user.org -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS650 Diseases
I would guess that the 650 number is way off really. I bet it is really a lot higher. Marshall Jack Dayton wrote: Marshall Dudley5/19/03 6:46 AM This is the reference where the 650 diseases came from: Silver, Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, ScienceDigest, March 1978. ** The 1978 reference to 650 diseases was probably referring to an article from some time in the mid 1930s -- the source for that specific number (650) has never been attributed to any specific research results as far as I can find out. I asked for the source for the 650 number about 4 monthsago -- result? nada. I question the accuracy of that stated amount. But whatever the true number may be, the important thing is that CS is damned effective at killing off lotsa bad stuff. Jack A Crocodile Cannot Stick Its Tongue Out. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS doesn't work ...
Check the archives, the original publication was given some time ago. It was in something like Explore magazine sometime I believe in the 80's. There should be messages in the archives that give the exact name and date of the article. ** We talked about this extensively a few months ago. No one could find anything more than anecdotal evidence that CS kills over 650 pathogens. More than likely studies were done on several pathogens and from there, the majority of the 650 pathogens was extrapolated. This cannot be used as a fact until it is proven in people. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Maibox Replies #1
My last batch is now clear. Wasn't light yellow, barely perceptible as in an ounce of tea added to a gallon of dw. The heater seems to do ok. No bubbles form on the side and no nasties or flakes. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 1:02 PM Subject: Re: CS Maibox Replies #1 You might want to try adding an occasional manual stir to that..maybe the straw color will go away? [straw color as in ...similar to weak tea with that darkish taint to pale clear yellow] Also, place your water jug in a warm place loosely capped for a few days and see if any bubbles form on the sides. That would most likely be dissolved ozone gas which can make a batch come out straw colored. [most if not all commercial distilled water is ozonated, some is very heavily ozonated..ozone reacts with silver ions to form suspended oxides. Silver oxides are harmless.] I think heating the water very hot [boiling?] and allowing to cool before use will outgas the ozone too. I have made some yellow batches with the old model silverpuppy. [None with the new model, but the water may not be as heavily ozonated around here anymore] Other batches came out clear with the same water and generator after outgassing it. You don't need color as an strength indicator. ;-) [not that it hurts anything] Remind me how you measure PPM? ken [Ode] At 08:37 PM 5/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: Ode Coyote modified my silverpuppy to make gallon batches. Stir is by heat plate supplied by him, getting 16 ppm with auto shutoff. Light straw color, barely perceptible tyndall.. Very happy, thanks silverpuppy. - Original Message - From: Mike Monett ncrffn...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: CS Maibox Replies #1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Maibox Replies #1
Ken, Same thing happens when the cats drink out of their water bowl! LOL! Lovely lavender color paula - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net Shelf life from both the silverpuppy and the silvergen should be virtually forever. I [silverpuppy dude] have however had a very few batches go violet in a month or so. I believe this to be the result of me spitting into the [clear glass] bottle while 'chugging' directly from it. The other half of the same batch did not turn colors. ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMailbox reply
Hank, I'm 81 and I have all kinds of silver. It great stuff, OleBob Hank Adams wrote: This is great for you guys selling 1000s of gal of CS, Do you really think I will use up the 6 inches of#12 wire in my life time? for my own uses. (I am 67)Sincerely Yours,Hank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS doesn't work ...
Andy, I was paying attention just fine, You wrote: __ Slow down Jay. I know someone once said that CS kills over 600 different pathogens. It has been quoted over and over by unscrupulous CS manufactures, but I don't think the statement has ever been qualified. The statement is probably true, but I've never seen references to the actual lab tests. It's most likely a bad marketing tool. When you see statements like KILLS OVER 600 DIFFERENT PATHOGENS on someone's web site, __ and put up these questions. __ Who made this study? When? Where? Where is it published? What strength of CS was used? What specific pathogens? Was a control group used? __ What does this sound like??? Is this a jedi mind trick or am I just twisting your words? You did this to me the first time I ever posted about CS and it gives the idea to everyone else, where is the proof, the validity. In your tone of how you come across you make the person posting feel they are making a mistake, and their judgment is flawed. Well yes they need to do some research, and if most people also did just some research into the harm of conventional medicine alot of doctors would be out of business. I emailed Dr.Leavitt some time ago and asked him about the study on CS and if he could send me some of the findings on the research, he emailed back saying while he'd like to, he couldn't but they would be publishing their findings in the near future in I believe he said the New England Journal of Medicine. I guess we'll just have to wait. So he had confirmed the study had been done and/or was ongoing, he also mentioned maybe I should look up another microbiologist that went on to a University in Colorado that was part of the study and is taking the study further. I am also trying to get myself a copy of the february 1923 British Medical Journal. I also personally know CS works so I don't need anybody to validate what I already know. I would rather be blue and healthy, than sick and dying under a doctors care that would be feeding me meds that for the most part while (possibly??) ridding me of one thing, would be definitely affecting me adversly in another way. One person turns a slightly light shade of blue compared to 250,000 people dying in a year at the hands of doctors. Get that, a quarter of a million people die at the hands of doctors in the US alone. While I feel bad about Rosemary Jacobs, what about all of those people that can't voice their discord about an unpleasant medical experience because, THEY'RE DEAD!!! 1 blue person 250,000 dead people (sorry dude there is no comparison) Look at it that way. And while the smallpox thing may have been OT it is right on when it comes to disinformation.
CSCS DOESn't WORK....
ahhh, don't be such a kill joy. lol. Jay Catherine wrote: ** We talked about this extensively a few months ago. No one could find anything more than anecdotal evidence that CS kills over 650 pathogens. More than likely studies were done on several pathogens and from there, the majority of the 650 pathogens was extrapolated. This cannot be used as a fact until it is proven in people. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS650 Diseases
Oooh, I like that. Your right. Great thinking. They forgot to put a 5 in front of it. lol. Jay - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 5:11 PM Subject: Re: CS650 Diseases I would guess that the 650 number is way off really. I bet it is really a lot higher. Marshall Jack Dayton wrote: Marshall Dudley5/19/03 6:46 AM This is the reference where the 650 diseases came from: Silver, Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, ScienceDigest, March 1978. ** The 1978 reference to 650 diseases was probably referring to an article from some time in the mid 1930s -- the source for that specific number (650) has never been attributed to any specific research results as far as I can find out. I asked for the source for the 650 number about 4 monthsago -- result? nada. I question the accuracy of that stated amount. But whatever the true number may be, the important thing is that CS is damned effective at killing off lotsa bad stuff. Jack A Crocodile Cannot Stick Its Tongue Out. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSinjecting CS....
I have a cold sore again, first time in months. HCV2 is a virus that sits on a nerve in the lip. CS has been known to kill virus' right? If I inject CS at 6 ppm will it kill the virus. Is there a particular spot I would have to inject it? Or right on the coldsore is fine? Any feed back would be such a great help like you would not have any idea. Jay P.S. I tried the icecube thing for 40 minutesif it works for you that is great, wish it were the same here...sigh. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBathing in CS
Here in TX we all make it a point to take a shower every Saturday whether we need it or not. It's just good hygiene. ( and sometimes we even give it back) lol -Original Message- From: guess...@msn.com [mailto:guess...@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 10:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBathing in CS Hey Hey I take a shower.at least once a month. Jeeze. lol. Jay Maybe that's why your skin breaks out?? (I know what you mean, Jay, just couldn't resistg) At 11:18 PM 5/15/03 -0400, you wrote: oooh sound good to me. I think when I get my silver wire I might do it. Lots of CS to make. Like a 4 day project to me. Ehh I have the energy. How will I get it warm. Don't want a cold bath. I haven't taken a bath in at least 5...6..10...12 years shoot I forget Jay -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNebulizing CS for SARS Redux
Dear List Members, A few weeks ago we had an extended discusssion on nebulizing CS for SARS patients. I appreciated all the thoughts and POVs I received from you. Since then, I've had the opportunity to present CS to a group of physicians on Hong Kong. It was received with mixed feelings, but the dialogue between us remains alive today. Here is one of the comments I've received from the Hong Kong group. Please note the fourth item down on nebulizer treatments for SARS. Good day, Catherine, Here are a few things that you must know-- * The hypoxemia is severe and the CXR can deteriorate rapidly. Patients desaturate at the slightest provocation - talking, movement, coughing. * There is a preponderance of barotrauma, even in nonventilated patients - pneumothoraces, pneumomediastinum, and surgical emphysema. * Weaning from mechanical ventilation can be difficult and prolonged. While oxygenation eventually improves, many patients are easily fatigued. * We cannot use a nebulizer. This is probably the single most important factor in the spread of droplets on the medical ward at the Prince of Wales Hospital in early March. The patient who received the nebulizer has been identified as the index case for this hospital. Many patients, healthcare workers, and relatives who entered that ward contracted SARS. * Because of the vast improvement of patients when high dose steroids are introduced it has become apparent that the majority of damage being caused to the lungs is not from the pathogen but from an over-response by the immune system. I look forward to continued discussions. [Name deleted] Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSToothpaste has been replaced....
Holland gave me this great recipe to make toothpaste. This very wise person asked me once why would you put something in your mouth and you don't understand the ingredients? Made sense to me. Anyway I have been useing this recipe for a week now and I think my teeth are getting whiter plus they feel very clean. Here's the recipe: ingredients: peroxide,CS,Baking soda, and minty mouth wash fill your container about 25 percent full with a minty mouthwash fill the container 25 percent full with peroxide fill 25 percent with baking soda fill the last 25 percent with CS. This is cheap and effective. This is different from what holland sent but I misplaced his directions but this seems to work. I think he also said add ???myrr??? if you have gum disease. Anyone have any improvements or comments? Jay -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSinjecting CS....
In a message dated 5/19/03 10:37:59 PM Central Daylight Time, guess...@msn.com writes: Or right on the coldsore is fine? That's what we do -- no injections needed. Just soak the cold sore a few times per day. Laura -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNebulizing CS for SARS Redux
Ref: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59175.html Catherine, Thank you for posting the letter. This gives us a glimpse of the enormous difficulties you are facing. I am impressed with your knowledge and dedication, and I look forward to reading your posts when they appear. This may sound like a silly idea, but would giving high ppm cs to all staff and patients help reduce the spread? They perhaps don't have to drink it. I found ten minutes of sub-lingual absorption to be highly effective in stopping sore throats and completely eliminating a residual low-level shingles infection. It might also help the sick patients. It would seem the first line of defense is to protect the healthy. When they are less vulnerable, then effective techniques like nebulizing could be used with less risk. I found a dramatic difference in performance when I switched from my usual process to one that gave a much stronger ion concentration. The key for me turned out to be reducing the current density from 1.4mA/sq.in to about 300uA/sq.in. It is interesting to find the Silverpuppy also runs at 312uA/sq.in. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNebulizing CS for SARS Redux
Dear Mike, You said: Thank you for posting the letter. This gives us a glimpse of the enormous difficulties you are facing. I am impressed with your knowledge and dedication, and I look forward to reading your posts when they appear. ** Thank you. You're quite generous :-) You said: This may sound like a silly idea, but would giving high ppm cs to all staff and patients help reduce the spread? They perhaps don't have to drink it. I found ten minutes of sub-lingual absorption to be highly effective in stopping sore throats and completely eliminating a residual low-level shingles infection. It might also help the sick patients. ** It doesn't sound like a silly idea at all. When you state high ppm how high are you thinking? Thanks, Mike. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
