Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
Interesting article. I've read other things about this technology and it is real, as far as I can tell. There is some discussion of this over on the Silver Off Topic List, in case you're interested. Please don't reply to it here. You can view the OT list on the web at: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html If you're a member of this list, you can post to the Off Topic list by sending your message to silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com ... Instructions for receiving the OT list in e-mail can be found at: http://www.silverlist.org ... by clicking on the Off Topic List link. Jay posted: > Below is an article Read it or don't. It says that tracking chips > will randomly be placed on items sold from Wal*Mart, then all stores > will have 'em on merchandise. It will record your life.. in short. > Tell them how you live...what you buy...etc...etc. It's the size of a > grain of sand, that you won't notice. Send a complaint to wal*mart and > congress, etc. Ice Thanks, Jay. Thank you for your cooperation, everyone. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
My response on the Off Topic list: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/m2633.html It'd be best if we pursued this there. Mike D. Jim wrote: > Don't believe this stuff, transmitters need a battery, how would they > be able to hide a battery large enough for the transmitter to send > info without wearing out extremely fast? There is no such > transmitter the size of a grain of sand and if there were they would > probably cost more to make then the cost of the merchandise. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Spam Arrest
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60281.html Re: CS>Spam Arrest From: C Creel Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:51:46 [...] > Spam Arrest works like this - let's say I get Spam Arrest service. > Now, I join the Silver-list. Every time someone posts to the list, > before my Spam Arrest will allow me to receive the post, it will > send an email to the poster asking them to verify they are not a > spammer. Theoretically, once you've done this, Spam Arrest will > allow any posts to the list by you to come to me. Each person that > posts will have to go through Spam Arrest verification prior to me > receiving the post. > Now, my personal opinion on this. I don't think I should have to > do anything for someone else to receive my posts from the list. If > someone is paying for a service that is so poor one can't set some > exceptions (like "any post with Silver-list in the subject") I > don't think I should have to compensate for this by taking my time > to do this. > Regards, > Catherine Very eloquently spoken, and very true. There is no reason we should have to put up with such a poorly conceived idea. I love their business model. You accidentally clicked on one of the interminable spams that said "Please click here - just this one time." You catch a virus and it takes days to reformat your hard disk and reload Windows. You send your friend a message to warn him about this new spam. You get an unexpected reply - "Please click here - just this one time." I don't think they have much of a future. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS Redux
jr wrote: < Are you suggesting nebulizing for SARS or not?> The anwser is YES.However, it must be remembered that Experimental Research in NO has shown that one-third are non-responders. POSITING: In nasal airways, continuous production of NO - indicated by presence of gas in nasally derived air - In Kartagener's syndrome, pts lack NO in nasal air & have severe problems with recurrent airway infection POSITING: In this study, we identify the epithelium in paranasal sinuses as a major site of NO production and suggest a role for airway-derived NO in primary host defence. POSITING # The concentration of NO in normal paranasal sinuses ; greatly exceed those that are bacteriostatic to S.aureus - indicating a role for NO in sinus host defense sterility of the sinuses (compared to nasal mucosa) - explained by the differences in epithelial NO production NO produced in the sinuses will continuously enter the nasal cavity and have biological effects in more distal parts of the airways following inhalation -> sinus-derived NO ; affect pulmonary blood flow or act in an 'aerocrine' fashion (participate in the first line of defence against airbone infectious agents) Airway-derived NO ; have an alternative or complementary role in host difense - increase ciliary beat frequency in bovine respiratory epithelium - apical location of airway NOS (cilia are anchored to the same area of cell) Nitric Oxide High Nitric Oxide Production in Human Paranasal Sinuses J.O.N. Lundberg, T. Farkas-Szallasi, E. Weitzberg, J. Rinder et al Summarized by Jeong Hoon Oh, MD Nature Medicine, Vol. 1, No. 4, April 1995 Physiological role of the human paranasal sinuses ; several theories, but enigma Paranasal sinuses - generally sterile in healthy subjects * mech. of sterility ; not fully understood - ciliary activity & secretory Ig with intact ostium : cleansing of the sinus ostium 0.5% of all common colds - complicated by sinusitis Nitric Oxide (NO) : produced in mammalian cells by NO synthase (NOS) * substrate ; amino acid L-arginine * 3 isoforms of human NOSs cloned : neuronal, endothelial & inducible NOS - neuronal & endothelial NOS ; constitutively expressed & produce low level of NO ( activity is dependent on Ca influx ) - inducible NOS ; expressed only after induction by certain cytokines or by bacterial lipopolysaccharide ( not dependent on Ca influx ) ( susceptible to glucocorticosteroid - suppressed ) - All isoforms are blocked by L-arginine analogues (ex. N-nitro-L-arginine methyl ester (L-NAME)) Role of NO in host defence - implied when produced in large quantities by an inducible NOS - involved in mouse macrophage-mediated killing of a variety of pathogens - antiviral properties * The origin & role of NO of healthy subjects ; not known POSITING: In nasal airways, continuous production of NO - indicated by presence of gas in nasally derived air - In Kartagener's syndrome, pts lack NO in nasal air & have severe problems with recurrent airway infection POSITING: In this study, we identify the epithelium in paranasal sinuses as a major site of NO production and suggest a role for airway-derived NO in primary host defence. Methods Measurement of NO in sinus & nasal air in 5 healthy subjects (ages 29-41, 4 males) ; after topical anesth. -> max. antrum puncture with an autoinjector (Sinoject ) through the inferior meatus -> a syringe was connected to a catheter placed in the sinus -> 20ml of air aspirated over a period of 15 sec -> repeated every minutes for 5 minutes -> NO measurement performed before & after intrasinus instillation of NOS inhibitor L-NAME (3.7mM in saline) & as a control D-NAME (3.7 mM in saline) -> entire sinus was filled with the solution & emptied again after a 10-min incubation period ; additional experiment nasal air was aspirated (20ml over a period of 15s) using an occlusive nasal olive (connected to a syringe & introduced into the vestibulum of the nose) -> asked to hold breath with mouth closed while the contralateral nostril was left open - ( air was forced from one nostril to the other via the nasopharynx ) -> before & after measurement of intranasal administration of a total of 20mlg L-NAME (14.8mM in saline 5ml) - inhaled as an aerosol through the nose over 10-min period in 4 pts (56-77 yrs, 3 males) undergoing routine surgery to alleviate orbital compression due to proptosis ; air was aspirated repeatedly from one max. sinus in all experiments ; the aspirated air was immediatelt injected into an NO chemiluminescence analyzer ; NO values remained stable in the syringe for longer than 2 min at widely varied conc. of NO in air in 49 healthy non-smoking subjects (age 0-62, 22 male) measurement of nasal NO concentrations continuously by sampling air (0.7 l /min) form one nostril -> nasal olive was connected directly to the sampling tube of chemiluminesce
Re: CS>$$$ perpectives
The comparator I use will stand 36 volts. All leads are either zener diode protected or have 346K resistors in series. All this RF stuff is over my head but the circuits were designed by a engineer who deals with it daily. Ode At 01:17 PM 6/16/2003 -0400, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60257.html Re: CS>$$$ perpectives From: Mike Monett Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:48:22 I wrote: CMOS is very sensitive to esd. TTL draws more power, but is pretty much immune. The headaches really scramble my thinking. This statement is true, but useless in this context. CMOS can be damaged or destroed by ESD events. There is protection at the inputs, but it is only good enough to pass the industry test so the product can be shipped. It will not survive the strong esd events that can occur in ordinary use. Another problem is an esd event can cause the device to go into latchup and be destroyed if the power supply can deliver enough current. Usually several hundred mA will do it. This is what I was thinking of when I said TTL is immune. TTL cannot go into latchup, but it is most certainly affected by esd and rfi. However, the comparator inputs are not TTL. I don't know which device you guys are using - very few that can withstand 30 volts differential across the inputs. If the device is CMOS, I'd make sure there was very good protection at the inputs, especially on systems that have long leads. The same filter techique to protect against rfi works for esd. But you really have to check it carefully. ESD risetimes can be sub-nanosecond with currents in the hundreds or thousands of amps. The problem this causes is the voltage can arc across the series resistor at the input. If the bypass cap inductance is high, or the traces are too long, this can allow very high voltage to appear at the input to the device. This can damage the thin oxide or create latent defects that fail months later. You will never know why. It won't occur often enough to seem to be a serious problem. But each time it happens, someone will lose their unit until it is repaired. However, rfi or esd protection can ultimately be defeated. No matter how much you install, there is always some place where it won't work. Walking across the carpet in Colorado during the winter can draw 1 inch arcs. This is over 30kV. That really takes good filtering to minimize the effects. You will never eliminate them completely. If you are in an industrial area, being next door to an arc welding outfit is not a good idea. If there is a high powered transmitter nearby, it can also cause havoc with sensitive comparators. I once found a huge problem when a laser company moved in next door. They used 10 KW heaters to melt the glass. The temperature was controlled with a simple bimetallic thermostat. When the contacts opened, they produced a small arc. This resonated with nearby wiring and pruduced a huge spike at 40 MHz. I meaured the frequency by triggering a scope and seeing the rf pulse in my lab. This severely disrupted the product I was working on. The cure was simple in this case. A snubber across each contact provided enough damping to kill the arc. The snubber was a 47 ohm resistor in series with 0.1uF right at the contacts. But it took a while to figure out where the noise was coming from. And there will always be the next one... Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
Don't believe this stuff, transmitters need a battery, how would they be able to hide a battery large enough for the transmitter to send info without wearing out extremely fast? There is no such transmitter the size of a grain of sand and if there were they would probably cost more to make then the cost of the merchandise. Jim Jay Ice wrote: Below is an article Read it or don't. It says that tracking chips will randomly be placed on items sold from Wal*Mart, then all stores will have 'em on merchandise. It will record your life.. in short. Tell them how you live...what you buy...etc...etc. It's the size of a grain of sand, that you won't notice. Send a complaint to wal*mart and congress, etc. Ice > NewsWithViews.com > http://www.newswithviews.com/ > > BIG BROTHER COMES TO WAL-MART > http://www.newswithviews.com/Mary/starrett14.htm > > By Mary Starrett > > June 11, 2003 > > Starting this week, the nation's largest discount retailer will quietly > begin selling tracking-chipped products to clueless shoppers. The first > volley in their war against our privacy is set to start at their Brockton, > Massachusetts store. > > Wal-Mart will put Radio Frequency I.D. sensors on shelves stocked with > RFID-tagged Gillette products, but they'd rather you didn't know about it, > because, hey, you might not like it, and then you might make noise and then > they'd have a big PR mess on their hands. > > You might even stop buying Gillette products or, say, refuse to shop at > Wal-Mart. > > These chips, researched at M.I.T.'s Auto-ID Center are about the size of a > grain of sand. Chipsters say the technology will only be used to help > retailers keep track of inventory - like bar codes. But privacy-loving > consumers question the very concept of a device that sends out radio waves > to "readers" that not only identify the article, but where and with whom > it's going. > > The Big Brother implications of this thing need little hyping to get your > skin crawling. > > Wal-Mart's putting the pressure on its top 100 suppliers to make sure their > inventory is all chipped by the end of next year. > > But why start this in Brockton, Mass? > > Could it be because the store's customers are typically lower income > minorities who'd be less likely to be aware of the tracking devices, and > even less likely to make a fuss about them? > > Their thinking? Let's foist it on folks who're too concerned about paying > the electric bill to be aware of these types of issues. > > Retailers are SUPPOSED to alert their customers to the tracking chips and > offer to "kill" the tags at the checkout counter. > > Don't count on it, because what you don't know won't hurt you, right? And > to PROVE those RFID tags won't be "killed" at the cash register one of the > ways they're planning on convincing you, the shopper that these tags are > A-OK is by touting how "hassle-free" returns will be. Huh? If the tags are > supposedly turned off at purchase, how can they be read after the item's > brought back to the store? Just one of the myriad lies you'll be told about > this technology. > > Are we to expect that in addition to being asked the "paper or plastic" > question we'll get an option on whether the RFID tags are left on or turned > off? Not only will consumers be witnessing the death throes of privacy, but > it's going to cost them. Currently, the chips cost about 60 cents each. Add > that to the cost of each and every item that uses this Orwellian > technology. Gillette and Wal-Mart are only the pioneers here, the stated > plan is to affix each item produced on the planet with RFID tags. Each pack > of gum, each roll of film, each bottle of Merlot. > > So what's a freedom-loving shopper to do? > > Fortunately for us, there's a really smart lady finishing up a Ph.D. at > Harvard. She started a group that's bellowing out the urgency of fighting > this technology; her name is Katherine Albrecht and she's founder of > CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion And Numbering). > Albrecht's CASPIAN has proposed a piece of federal legislation called "RFID > RIGHT TO KNOW ACT OF 2003". It's a law that would let consumers know which > products had tracking chips attached to them. In short, the proposed bill > would amend the Fair Packaging and Labeling Program by adding language that > requires manufacturers to state (in a conspicuous location) that the > package contains a radio frequency identification tag that can transmit > unique identification information to a "reader" device both before and > AFTER it's purchased(!). > > This is where you come in. > > The bill nee
Re: CS>Mosquito tip
The mosquitos will drown as soon as they touch the water. No surface tension on the water to hold them up or create a bubble around their breathing apparatus. Good way to drown fleas too. Put the dish under a night light to attract the fleas. Ode At 02:17 PM 6/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: Just received---haven't tried it yet: "Here's a tip that was given at a recent gardening forum: Put some water in a white dinner plate and add a couple of drops of Lemon Fresh Joy dish detergent. Set the dish on your porch, patio, or other outdoor area. I'm not sure what attracts them, the lemon smell, the white plate color, or what, but mosquitoes flock to it, and drop dead shortly after drinking the Lemon Fresh Joy/water mixture, and usually within about 10 feet of the plate. Check this out---it works just super!" jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>questions
It also says in very fine print "MSP" [mild silver protein] Ten PPM if I recall ..and..Do not use in eyes. at a whopping $15 for 2 oz I wonder if this is the bright yellow chemical precipitate stuff made by the drum about a mile from here. Ode At 02:40 PM 6/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: Ode Coyote6/15/03 5:39 AM > GNC sells generators? > Not around here! > It would be interesting to find out more. > Is there a brand name or any specs? *** Hi Ken, I can't find any listing for generators at GNCs web site, but a search for silver produced this gem. Search results GNC - Liquid Colloidal Silver Directions: SHAKE WELL. As a dietary supplement, adults take one teaspoon (5 ... and they call that stuff colloidal? It would appear that GNC doesn't even know the meaning of the word colloidal. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OdeCoyote question
searching Google To order by check or money order click on the blue "order form". Please specify write in the form Battery only Generator Approx. 27 volts contains 3-heavy duty 9 Volt batteries with 2each - 5" 14 gauge rods, good for about 30 to 50 gallon of colloidal silver . Glass in picture not included. our asking donation price is just $39.95 Now for a limited time $29.95+ $6.50 shipping / Not a bad price for what it is. I bet they could ship it for one dollar though. [Wonder what happens if you only "donate" $10?] Look inside and see what's in it and somebody here will tell you what it does. Applying a little heat from a night light bulb underneath will help it's operation. What brand and model water tester are you using? Does it read in uS [microsiemens] or PPM? Brown is not so hot...but it shouldn't hurt ya if you don't use a whole bunch for a long time and it'll probably still do the job. Ode At 10:52 PM 6/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hi, my generator came from GCN, not GNC. Sorry, my mistake. Get initials mixed up often. If you are not familiar with, let me know and I will see if I can find specs on same. By the way, I am not scientific; only do this for especially my daughter's health, and some preventative measures for my family. Interestingly, am learning I must have made the right decision on buying this. Debated for many months. Am trying to keep between 10 and 15 on my water tester. Is this about right? Threw some out that was about 25 and slightly brown. Was this no good? Thank you for all the info, Leslie __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Spam Arrest
This is all really rather simple. You sent an email to the silver mailing list. The list sent the email to all the members. He is a member and thus received your email. Not knowing if it was spam or not it sent a message back to you to validate that you are not spaming him. The message has the same title as the message that you sent to the list. It has nothing to do with any address book. It was triggered by you sending a message to the list. We all have gotten the same thing when we have sent messages to the list. I simply validated so I would not get any more validation requests every time I send a message to the list. The spamarrest should allow him to tell it that anything forwarded from the silver list is ok though. If not it is not working correctly as far as I am concerned. It is rather absurd to require validation of every single member of the list instead of simply the list itself. Marshall Mike Monett wrote: > url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60276.html > CS>Spam Arrest > From: M. G. Devour > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:24:52 > > > Lee Elder wrote: > > >> Mike Monett- Sorry! I guess you don't know anything about "Spam > >> Arrest" I don't want you to send me any emails anyway!! > > >> I just found out about it from 'V' today and have installed the > >> program to get rid of spam, it works!!! > > > Spam Arrest? If it's doing what it looks like it's doing, then > > every new person who posts to the silver list is going to get a > > message from your spam program, and every time somebody new starts > > to use "Spam Arrest", it's going to start the cycle all over. If > > that *IS* the way this "service" behaves, then I will make it a > > policy to ban anybody who chooses to use it. > > > I advise you to figure out how to train Spam Arrest to accept any > > mail that contains the following headers, or else dump it. > > >> Resent-From:silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: > >> silver-list@eskimo.com > > > If anybody is seeing something I'm not, please explain it to me. I > > don't want to make problems for anybody unless it's necessary. > > > That said, I will not allow every new member to be confused by > > such suspicious and unwarrented responses the first time they post > > to the list. > > > Mike Devour > > silver-list owner > > Hi Mike, > > I checked the header: > > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:55:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: "support-at-spamarrest.com |Feb 2003 G|" > > To: x > Subject: Spam Arrest Verification Confirmation > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Sneakemail-Label: Feb 2003 G > X-Sneakemail-Address: 3hg0lm...@sneakemail.com > X-Sneakemail-Rcpt: 3hg0lm...@sneakemail.com > X-Sneakemail-Keyword: > X-Sneakemail-Return-Path: supp...@spamarrest.com > X-Sneakemail-From: supp...@spamarrest.com > X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > > Dear Mike Monett, > > ...rest omitted... > > - > > The email was sent privately to me. > > It seems to look like he paid for this service, and it went through > his address book where it found my address. > > But why my address was in there, and why the email had the following > Subject line is very strange: > > Subject: RE: Re: CS>$$$ perpectives (verification) > > That doesn't look like a legitimate reason for verifying an email > address by a legitimate service from someone who doesn't want to > talk with me. > > I remain a bit sceptical. > > Best Regards, > > Mike Monett > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
Probably the reader induces a current in the chip that powers the chip. The distance from which it can be read is probably very short. The chip cannot write new information to itself when it is with you after you leave the store. The problem is not that they will put these devices on merchandise. The problem is that they will put these devices in you. This is an OT silver list subject. JOH -Original Message- From: Jim Thibeault [mailto:kf4...@papadocs.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart! Don't believe this stuff, transmitters need a battery, how would they be able to hide a battery large enough for the transmitter to send info without wearing out extremely fast? There is no such transmitter the size of a grain of sand and if there were they would probably cost more to make then the cost of the merchandise. Jim Jay Ice wrote: Below is an article Read it or don't. It says that tracking chips will randomly be placed on items sold from Wal*Mart, then all stores will have 'em on merchandise. It will record your life.. in short. Tell them how you live...what you buy...etc...etc. It's the size of a grain of sand, that you won't notice. Send a complaint to wal*mart and congress, etc. Ice > NewsWithViews.com > http://www.newswithviews.com/ > > BIG BROTHER COMES TO WAL-MART > http://www.newswithviews.com/Mary/starrett14.htm > > By Mary Starrett > > June 11, 2003 > > Starting this week, the nation's largest discount retailer will quietly > begin selling tracking-chipped products to clueless shoppers. The first > volley in their war against our privacy is set to start at their Brockton, > Massachusetts store. > > Wal-Mart will put Radio Frequency I.D. sensors on shelves stocked with > RFID-tagged Gillette products, but they'd rather you didn't know about it, > because, hey, you might not like it, and then you might make noise and then > they'd have a big PR mess on their hands. > > You might even stop buying Gillette products or, say, refuse to shop at > Wal-Mart. > > These chips, researched at M.I.T.'s Auto-ID Center are about the size of a > grain of sand. Chipsters say the technology will only be used to help > retailers keep track of inventory - like bar codes. But privacy-loving > consumers question the very concept of a device that sends out radio waves > to "readers" that not only identify the article, but where and with whom > it's going. > > The Big Brother implications of this thing need little hyping to get your > skin crawling. > > Wal-Mart's putting the pressure on its top 100 suppliers to make sure their > inventory is all chipped by the end of next year. > > But why start this in Brockton, Mass? > > Could it be because the store's customers are typically lower income > minorities who'd be less likely to be aware of the tracking devices, and > even less likely to make a fuss about them? > > Their thinking? Let's foist it on folks who're too concerned about paying > the electric bill to be aware of these types of issues. > > Retailers are SUPPOSED to alert their customers to the tracking chips and > offer to "kill" the tags at the checkout counter. > > Don't count on it, because what you don't know won't hurt you, right? And > to PROVE those RFID tags won't be "killed" at the cash register one of the > ways they're planning on convincing you, the shopper that these tags are > A-OK is by touting how "hassle-free" returns will be. Huh? If the tags are > supposedly turned off at purchase, how can they be read after the item's > brought back to the store? Just one of the myriad lies you'll be told about > this technology. > > Are we to expect that in addition to being asked the "paper or plastic" > question we'll get an option on whether the RFID tags are left on or turned > off? Not only will consumers be witnessing the death throes of privacy, but > it's going to cost them. Currently, the chips cost about 60 cents each. Add > that to the cost of each and every item that uses this Orwellian > technology. Gillette and Wal-Mart are only the pioneers here, the stated > plan is to affix each item produced on the planet with RFID tags. Each pack > of gum, each roll of film, each bottle of Merlot. > > So what's a freedom-loving shopper to do? > > Fortunately for us, there's a really smart lady finishing up a Ph.D. at > Harvard. She started a group that's bellowing out the urgency of fighting > this technology; her name is Katherine Albrecht and she's founder of > CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion And Numbering). > Albrecht's CASPIAN has proposed a piece of federal legislation called "RFID > RIGHT TO KNOW ACT OF 2003". It's a law that would let consumers know which > products had tracking chips attached to them. In short, the proposed bill > would amend the Fair Packaging and Labeling Program by adding language that > requires manufacturers to state (in a
Re: CS>Spam Arrest
Apparently spam arrest is a spamming company that uses a unique method to collect addresses. See http://groups.google.com/groups?q=spamming+%22spam+arrest%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=c95bcv8b3npb3ifnbef2e99t0chpcv2209%404ax.com&rnum=1 They are a spammer! http://groups.google.com/groups?q=spamming+%22spam+arrest%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=telecom22.292.13%40telecom-digest.org&rnum=4 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3E4C0CF9.B7EBC299%40sneakemail.com&rnum=6&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dspamming%2B%2522spam%2Barrest%2522%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26hl%3Den They are harvesting every email address of anyone who ever posts to this mailing list!!! In view of their policies I think Mike may be correct in deleting any users that use this service immediately. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Mosquito tip
on 6/16/03 2:17 PM, jrowl...@nctimes.net at jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Would this work for termites also Mary > Just received---haven't tried it yet: > > "Here's a tip that was given at a recent gardening forum: > Put some water in a white dinner plate and add a couple of drops of > Lemon Fresh Joy dish detergent. Set the dish on your porch, patio, or > other outdoor area. I'm not sure what attracts them, the lemon smell, > the white plate color, or what, but mosquitoes flock to it, and drop > dead shortly after drinking the Lemon Fresh Joy/water mixture, and > usually within about 10 feet of the plate. Check this out---it works > just super!" > jr > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Mosquito tip
Sounds logical. But how would a drowned mosquito end up 10 feet from the plate? Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: >The mosquitos will drown as soon as they touch the water. No surface > tension on the water to hold them up or create a bubble around their > breathing apparatus. > Good way to drown fleas too. Put the dish under a night light to attract > the fleas. > Ode > > At 02:17 PM 6/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >Just received---haven't tried it yet: > > > >"Here's a tip that was given at a recent gardening forum: > >Put some water in a white dinner plate and add a couple of drops of > >Lemon Fresh Joy dish detergent. Set the dish on your porch, patio, or > >other outdoor area. I'm not sure what attracts them, the lemon smell, > >the white plate color, or what, but mosquitoes flock to it, and drop > >dead shortly after drinking the Lemon Fresh Joy/water mixture, and > >usually within about 10 feet of the plate. Check this out---it works > >just super!" > >jr > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Spam Arrest
I've never replied to any spam filter emails. I also only use this address for the silver list and have never received any spam except for these types of messages at this address. In my opinion any email asking to verify your address is designed to add you to a spam list. This is also why I never send return receipts. Also I'd like to see any virus send email to everyone on my list. Since my address book is in my head should probably copy it down into a notebook so I don't lose any. Sincerely Joseph Fritz At 09:46 PM 6/16/2003 -0400, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60276.html CS>Spam Arrest From: M. G. Devour Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:24:52 > Lee Elder wrote: >> Mike Monett- Sorry! I guess you don't know anything about "Spam >> Arrest" I don't want you to send me any emails anyway!! >> I just found out about it from 'V' today and have installed the >> program to get rid of spam, it works!!! > Spam Arrest? If it's doing what it looks like it's doing, then > every new person who posts to the silver list is going to get a > message from your spam program, and every time somebody new starts > to use "Spam Arrest", it's going to start the cycle all over. If > that *IS* the way this "service" behaves, then I will make it a > policy to ban anybody who chooses to use it. > I advise you to figure out how to train Spam Arrest to accept any > mail that contains the following headers, or else dump it. >> Resent-From:silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: >> silver-list@eskimo.com > If anybody is seeing something I'm not, please explain it to me. I > don't want to make problems for anybody unless it's necessary. > That said, I will not allow every new member to be confused by > such suspicious and unwarrented responses the first time they post > to the list. > Mike Devour > silver-list owner Hi Mike, I checked the header: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:55:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "support-at-spamarrest.com |Feb 2003 G|" To: x Subject: Spam Arrest Verification Confirmation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sneakemail-Label: Feb 2003 G X-Sneakemail-Address: 3hg0lm...@sneakemail.com X-Sneakemail-Rcpt: 3hg0lm...@sneakemail.com X-Sneakemail-Keyword: X-Sneakemail-Return-Path: supp...@spamarrest.com X-Sneakemail-From: supp...@spamarrest.com X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Dear Mike Monett, ...rest omitted... - The email was sent privately to me. It seems to look like he paid for this service, and it went through his address book where it found my address. But why my address was in there, and why the email had the following Subject line is very strange: Subject: RE: Re: CS>$$$ perpectives (verification) That doesn't look like a legitimate reason for verifying an email address by a legitimate service from someone who doesn't want to talk with me. I remain a bit sceptical. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
Jim, It istrue that a transmitter needs a battery, but there are many devices the respond with a signal when interrogated with an RF signal. For example the rice sized grain that is currently beingimplanted into animalsfor identification. The device is read by the process mentioned. One can have a pet "code" for about $15.00 and it is then registered. The unit is made in Florida and has been suggested for use in humans for identification. That has caused much anger in the religious community as satan's world wide numbering system. "Ole Bob" Electircal Engineer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:03:11 -0500, Robert Berger wrote: >"Ole Bob" Electircal Engineer WOT's a Electircal Engineer??? Chuck Capt'n! The spellchecker kinna take this abuse! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Spam Arrest
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60298.html Re: CS>Spam Arrest From: Marshall Dudley Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:55:45 > This is all really rather simple. You sent an email to the silver > mailing list. The list sent the email to all the members. He is a > member and thus received your email. Not knowing if it was spam or > not it sent a message back to you to validate that you are not > spaming him. The message has the same title as the message that > you sent to the list. > It has nothing to do with any address book. It was triggered by > you sending a message to the list. We all have gotten the same > thing when we have sent messages to the list. I simply validated > so I would not get any more validation requests every time I send > a message to the list. > The spamarrest should allow him to tell it that anything forwarded > from the silver list is ok though. If not it is not working > correctly as far as I am concerned. It is rather absurd to require > validation of every single member of the list instead of simply > the list itself. > Marshall Marshall, Thank you for the clear explanation. I think the service is a very poor idea. I don't like unexpected messages in my inbox saying please click here. I get tons of spam all wanting me to do the same, and when I decode the attachments disguised as DOC, ZIP, PIF, and other files, they all turn out to be executables and not what they were described as. Of course, they won't run on my system. But I still feel insulted that anyone would think I am dumb enough to click on them. I use sneakemail for throwaway email addresses and use different addresses for each mailing list. So I can identify where the spam originates. From time to time, I have to kill the address for the Silver List and get a new one. If this means I will get the same silly message from this service and have to revalidate each time, I will simply unsubscribe from the Silver List and forget about it. I do not have time to waste on such stupidity. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS Redux
JR wrote: < Are you suggesting nebulizing for SARS or not?> FH Lew responded: <> ** I think you need to be talking to the people who are on the frontlines of this, Lew. Nebulizing is how they feel a number of health care practitioners ended up with SARS. This information is from an interdisciplinary group all of whom have been working directly with SARS patients. Any one of us can sit here and speculate but until we've dealt with it as they have, I have to defer to them on the issue of transmission. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>[Listowner] Holy moly, everybody!!!
Whoa, I've been practically silent for a couple of months, and now y'all have twisted my tail 3 or 4 times in the last week! Becky, Ole Bob, and anyone else tempted to weigh in with their comments on the mark of the beast, objections to said remarks, complaints about said remarks and objections, etcetera, ad nauseum, as part of the "Your life is being monitored" thread... PLEASE DON'T!!! As stated in the list rules at http://www.silverlist.org ... "Avoid discussing religion, mysticism, or spirituality. There is no comment you can make that will not risk offending someone. Overt evangelization is not permitted. Do not reply to religious remarks made by others." So, folks, when you read this, cease and desist with *any* temptation to continue the thread. If anybody responds *before* they read this, ignore what they say, no matter what. If it's bad enough, complain to me and I'll deal with it. My address is in the footer of each list message. Be patient while these prohibited subject threads die a natural death over the next couple of days. Willful disregard of this decree will expose you to the risk of suspension or other dire consequences. Please review the rest of the list rules at www.silverlist.org As always, discussions of this sort are encouraged over on the Silver Off Topic List. You can view the OT list on the web at: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html If you're a member of this list, you can post to the Off Topic list by sending your message to silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com ... Instructions for receiving the OT list in e-mail can be found at: http://www.silverlist.org ... by clicking on the Off Topic List link. Of all people, Chuck writes: > Eeeny Meeny, Jelly Beeny, I predict, the list god is about to SPEAK Boy, Chuck, how do you *DO* it man? Can you send me the next Big Game numbers, huh? > Hail to the Sun God! He is the Fun God! Ra! Ra! Ra! If I didn't think you'd be insulted, Chuck, I'd decree you a minor deity myself. Be well, and be patient folks. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Spam Arrest
>From the FAQ for spamarrest: Does Spam Arrest work with mailing lists? Yes! Most mailing lists work by sending a message to a certain address, for example, mygr...@yahoogroups.com. Simply add that address to your approved mailing lists and you will receive all of the mailing list messages, without requiring verification from the individual list members. http://spamarrest.com/faq/#mlists This should work with the eskimo mailing list. I strongly suggest the person using this service do so and save the rest of us much confusion and wasted time. And if this service proves to be a problem in the future when others who want to use this service fail to read the FAQ, then Mike's original assessment should hold. I don't see why a newcomer to the list should have to go through this, or why I should have to do it whenever I need to change my address. Anyone who wants to use this service can also get a free throwaway email address from sneakemail.com or any other similar service. They can use it to subscribe to the Silver List, just as I do. Banning this service from the Silver List would cause these people no great hardship. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
Chuck, Some people transpose numbers, my fingers transpose letters. Generally the word "the" comes out "hte" or "th e". Its called old age!!! Try it some time!! "OLD BOB" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Thanks for help re: cold sores and ear...
Allen Graves wrote: > Thanks to Marv, Chuck, Jack, Tony, Shirley, Glenda and Mike for your > advice. Have increased B vits, and L-lysine and condition is > improving. Have decided to try Tetrasil, when funds allow ( as I have > no idea how to get CS ..? )(A commercial athlete's-foot-like fundicide > seems always to help but never cure, and am applying Calendula per my > naturopath) to see if Tetrasil can completely resolve the problem. > > I have always had success with simply wetting a tissue and holding > onto an area where one feels like it is about to erupt for a few > minutes. > > Twelve days of antibiotics got rid of it, then it came back. Muchas > gracias, and that's all the Greek I speak. > > > That is actually Spanish. :> > > Marshall
CS> your life is being monitored by walmart
This is in response to ole Bob's post concerning microchipping. Since I can never respond to the posts concerning your scientific work I am taking the liberty of an "off topic" commentI won't do it again. Bob, you said: "That has caused much anger in the religious community as satan's world wide numbering system. "Ole Bob" Electircal Engineer " The "mark of the beast" is IN one's forehead, which is where one's MIND is, his brain. Or, on one's right hand, which is symbolic of the work one does. NObody in his right mind will allow themselves to be microchipped by Satan, on purpose. He's smart enough to know that, too. The "mark" is IN the mind, in one's brain, IN what a person KNOWS. Bottom line, one has the "mark of the beast" if that one believes the any moment theory, also referred to as the rapture theory, which lays the groundwork for accepting the spurious Messiah (Satan, the devil, the serpent) AS Jesus. Jesus comes at the seventh trump, the farthest one out, and Satan comes pretending to be Jesus at the sixth trump. To believe that the first Jesus (Satan, who comes disquised as an angel of light) who appears is our Father in Heaven is to already have the "mark of the beast". Okay, please don't throw me off the listI can barely understand the posts as it is, but I am learning rapidly from you "scientific minded" individuals. If you want to question me on the short synopsis above concerning current events you are welcome to email me at taralabrad...@webtv.net. Sincerely, Becky www.TaraLabradors.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Experimental LED Protocol Revisited
The recent spate of "unusual" viral agent derivatives (SARS, Western Equine E., etc)prompts me to remind the list membership of our results in evaluating LED-based topical effects. One of the most promising aspects of this type protocol is the excellent response in control of infectious agents lying "beneath" a mucous shield. Our experiments utilizing 3500 mcd, clear red, bulbs (asemblies using from 5 to 20 bulbs), produced very powerful control effects.most especially on the bacterial forms. When utilized as an ancillary component with a pre-treatment nebulizer-applied solution of CS (90% by voloume) X DMSO (10% by volume), the results for control of viral-based insults increased dramatically. Interestingly, staph-driven insults presenting along the upper throat regions responded "dramatically" without the inclusion of ANY other protocolthan just the LED assembly exposure. I believe experimenters would be very well served to consider including this simple tool in their kit for addressing these NEW VARIANTS OF UNKOWN ORIGIN. The LED protocol would seem to be recommendedif only for its ability to greatly improve the local circulation of areas surrounding concentrated insults. There are a number of useable approaches discussing/describing the construction of useable, low-power, LED systems for application in topically-oriented circumstncesdiscussed in the Silver-List Archives. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Thanks for help re: cold sores and ear...
Thanks to Marv, Chuck, Jack, Tony, Shirley, Glenda and Mike for your advice. Have increased B vits, and L-lysine and condition is improving. Have decided to try Tetrasil, when funds allow ( as I have no idea how to get CS ..? )(A commercial athlete's-foot-like fundicide seems always to help but never cure, and am applying Calendula per my naturopath) to see if Tetrasil can completely resolve the problem. Twelve days of antibiotics got rid of it, then it came back. Muchas gracias, and that's all the Greek I speak. Seriously..thks. - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CS>sores in corner of mouth - lysine
Uhh... I like to take on a lot of different things simultaneously. I am also forgetful. I don't take CS regularly. I eat a lot of fruit and can't take CS when I do because of silver citrate. I'm sure I would have a lot more benefits if I organized my self and had some type of structure. Ice - Original Message - From: "Mike Monett" <3hg0lm...@sneakemail.com> > > You take cs, and you still need to take lysine. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS sold in stores
They sell colloidal silver in the health food store I go to. it says to take 2 tablespoons daily and don't put it in your eyes. Its 30 to 40 ppm. I wouldn't trust it tho. Ice > > > >GNC - Liquid Colloidal Silver > > > >Directions: SHAKE WELL. > >As a dietary supplement, adults take one teaspoon (5 ... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Mosquito tip
Powdered sugar and boric acid will rid you of termites. Ice > on 6/16/03 2:17 PM, jrowl...@nctimes.net at jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: > Would this work for termites also > Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Allergies
Me too! Ice ( I am beginning to go crosseyed from trying to read > stuff off the computer, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Spam Arrest
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60307.html Re: CS>Spam Arrest From: Marshall Dudley Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:22:38 > Apparently spam arrest is a spamming company that uses a unique > method to collect addresses. Way to go Marshall. There was something fishy about this service and your links prove it. This service and any whitelist like it should be banned from the Silver List. They offer a way to include mailing lists, but it is buried deep in their FAQ and most people will not find it or realize the importance of doing so. By the time they find out, it is too late. They have already harvested everyone's email address from the list. I use throwaway email addresses to avoid similar problems. You can have a unique email address for each mailing list or site that requires registration, so you know where the spam is coming from. It is a simple matter to kill that address and re-subscribe with a new one if you still want the service. There are many free services that work very well. Here are two that I use: 1. http://sneakemail.com/ This works with any browser and is my preferred service. It is fast and very easy to create new addresses or delete old ones. You can reply to an email through their service, but the reply address expires in two or three days. Or you can simply cut and paste the person's address and reply using your main address. They limit the size of attachments to several hundred kbytes. This only became a problem recently when Marv Hacker wanted to send me some large jpg files. I simply gave him my main address and got the files quickly. 2. http://www.spammotel.com/ This requires a Microsoft browser. It also works well, but is not as easy to use as the first. I was suspicious the first time I tried these services, thinking they may be simply a front to harvest email addresses. But I think they do exactly what they say, and they protect their lists very well. I check the headers on spam very carefully, and can tell most of it comes from simple dictionary attacks on my sympatico isp. Other spam comes from a sneakemail address I use on my web site and change regularly, or from postings to newsgroups such as sci.electronics.design. So I can confirm that none of it comes from either of these services. Anyone who wants to use a whitelist can also use one of these services for their email address. So nobody should be upset if they were banned from the Silver List. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Ants, was Re: CS>Mosquito tip
The best way to keep your home from having termites is to leave ant nests alone. Ants and termites do NOT like to "share space" as ants are predators on the termites. So if you got plenty of ants around, you won't get termites. Best of all, this solution is 100% natural and completely free. Sorry for contributing to off-topic list load, but I couldn't resist... paula -- Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats) mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter - Original Message - From: "Jay Ice" > Powdered sugar and boric acid will rid you of termites. > Ice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:59:57 -0500, Robert Berger wrote: >Its called old age!!! > >Try it some time!! > >"OLD BOB" Heh, Nicest thing you ever said to me, Bob! I'm a retired old f**t, too. Chuck C:\BELFRY is where I keep my .BAT files. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>FTC seizes Seasilver
"6/17/03 Government seizes Carlsbad company EDMOND JACOBY The federal government seized the offices of a Carlsbad company Monday in connection with a lawsuit brought against the firm by the Federal Trade Commission. The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada, alleges that the company makes false and unsubstantiated claims when advertising its product, a dietary supplement advertised on the Internet as a wonder cure for almost any condition..." http://www.nctimes.net/news/2003/20030617/61054.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> your life is being monitored by walmart
Eeeny Meeny, Jelly Beeny, I predict, the list god is about to SPEAK Chuck Hail to the Sun God! He is the Fun God! Ra! Ra! Ra! On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:12:52 -0400 (EDT), taralabrad...@webtv.net (Becky) wrote: >This is in response to ole Bob's post concerning microchipping. Since I >can never respond to the posts concerning your scientific work I am >taking the liberty of an "off topic" commentI won't do it again. > >Bob, you said: "That has caused much anger in the religious community >as satan's world wide numbering system. >"Ole Bob" Electircal Engineer " > >The "mark of the beast" is IN one's forehead, which is where one's MIND >is, his brain. Or, >on one's right hand, which is symbolic of the work one does. NObody in >his right mind will allow themselves to be microchipped by Satan, on >purpose. He's smart enough to know that, too. The "mark" is IN the >mind, in one's brain, >IN what a person KNOWS. > >Bottom line, one has the "mark of the beast" >if that one believes the any moment theory, also referred to as the >rapture theory, which lays the groundwork for accepting the spurious >Messiah (Satan, the devil, the serpent) AS Jesus. Jesus comes at the >seventh trump, the farthest one out, and Satan comes pretending to be >Jesus at the sixth trump. To believe that >the first Jesus (Satan, who comes disquised as an angel of light) who >appears is our Father in Heaven is to already have the "mark of the >beast". > >Okay, please don't throw me off the listI can barely understand the >posts as it is, but I am learning rapidly from you "scientific minded" >individuals. If you want to question me on the short synopsis above >concerning current events you are welcome to email me at >taralabrad...@webtv.net. > >Sincerely, > >Becky >www.TaraLabradors.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
Well we may not type the best in the world but we have did something a lot of these young people will never do, Get old. Sincerely Yours, Hank - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:32 PM Subject: Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart! On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:59:57 -0500, Robert Berger wrote: >Its called old age!!! > >Try it some time!! > >"OLD BOB" Heh, Nicest thing you ever said to me, Bob! I'm a retired old f**t, too. Chuck C:\BELFRY is where I keep my .BAT files. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/03
CS>Marketing question
Since the FDA seems to use the term "colloidal silver", and most of us seem to produce predominately ionic silver, would use of that term elude their dragnet? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> your life is being monitored by walmart
Hi Chuck, Whoever he is, may he speak well. "Ole Bob" cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > Eeeny Meeny, Jelly Beeny, > I predict, the list god is about to SPEAK > > Chuck > > Hail to the Sun God! He is the Fun God! Ra! Ra! Ra! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>FTC seizes Seasilver
Why is the case sealed? "The purpose of the raid was to "secure the company files" under a sealed court order that was granted when the FTC's suit was filed, said FTC spokeswoman Erica Wodinsky in a telephone interview from her office in San Francisco. The suit itself also remains under seal, Wodinsky said. " "30 lawyers and investigators from FTC headquarters in Washington, D.C., and from the FTC office in San Francisco." Slam! The product must work pretty good. Curious that there is no mention of a dissatisfied customer. I feel safer already. JOH -Original Message- From: jrowl...@nctimes.net [mailto:jrowl...@nctimes.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>FTC seizes Seasilver "6/17/03 Government seizes Carlsbad company EDMOND JACOBY The federal government seized the offices of a Carlsbad company Monday in connection with a lawsuit brought against the firm by the Federal Trade Commission. The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada, alleges that the company makes false and unsubstantiated claims when advertising its product, a dietary supplement advertised on the Internet as a wonder cure for almost any condition..." http://www.nctimes.net/news/2003/20030617/61054.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Mosquito tip
Ratio? JOH -Original Message- From: Jay Ice [mailto:guess...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Mosquito tip Powdered sugar and boric acid will rid you of termites. Ice > on 6/16/03 2:17 PM, jrowl...@nctimes.net at jrowl...@nctimes.net > wrote: Would this work for termites also Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FTC seizes Seasilver
<> I can provide that. I switched to it myself and switched 25 clients who volunteeres to test it. They were up to 4 oz. daily and not feeling like they were getting what one oz. of what I had them taking does for them. We did this for 3 months. Honestly, I think it's a really crappy product that tastes good over ice with a twist of lime . Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Mosquito tip
A 50/50 mix worked for me. Ice - Original Message - From: "James Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: RE: CS>Mosquito tip > > Ratio? > > JOH > > -Original Message- > From: Jay Ice [mailto:guess...@msn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:40 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Mosquito tip > > > > Powdered sugar and boric acid will rid you of termites. > Ice > > > > > > > on 6/16/03 2:17 PM, jrowl...@nctimes.net at jrowl...@nctimes.net > > wrote: Would this work for termites also Mary > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >
RE: CS>FTC seizes Seasilver
So should they bust Schwepps? JOH -Original Message- From: C Creel [mailto:ccr...@adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>FTC seizes Seasilver <> I can provide that. I switched to it myself and switched 25 clients who volunteeres to test it. They were up to 4 oz. daily and not feeling like they were getting what one oz. of what I had them taking does for them. We did this for 3 months. Honestly, I think it's a really crappy product that tastes good over ice with a twist of lime . Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>sores in corner of mouth - lysine
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60312.html Re: CS>sores in corner of mouth - lysine From: Jay Ice Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:39:20 > Uhh... I like to take on a lot of different things simultaneously. > I am also forgetful. I don't take CS regularly. I eat a lot of > fruit and can't take CS when I do because of silver citrate. I'm > sure I would have a lot more benefits if I organized my self and > had some type of structure. > Ice Jay, I don't think you'll find anyone more disorganized than me. But I have a simple way to make sure I take my cs. I have a few small cavities. These should be filled, but I use them to tell me when to take my silver, and how well it is working. For example, the cs I used to make lasted about one day, even though I drank a full 8 oz glass. I tried three different methods of stirring, but each one reduced the effectiveness of the cs to only several hours. I got interested in finding a way to make cs with a single 9V battery. The intent was to make very simple generators to send to friends in Moldavia. After making a greate deal of sludge, I finally discovered the key was to use plenty of wetted area and to keep the current density very low, perhaps around 100 uA per square inch. This allowed a simple series resistor to regulate the current to the desired value, and a single 9V battery is all that was needed. The calcuations for the resistor in series are simple, but the actual value is not critical. You can adjust it to get a convenient brew time. I like to use 6 hrs since I can simply draw an imaginary clock in my mind and move the hour hand to the opposite side of the circle. The timing is not critical. If you have to go shopping and return an hour late, it only means the brew will be slightly stronger. You do not have to throw it away like I used to when I was using 1.4 mA/sq. in and was 20 minutes late. The first real batch was made on a Monday. On Wednesday of that week, I was astonished to find the residual Shingles scabs that had been bothering me for six months fall off and disappear. This never happened with the cs I made at 1.4 mA/sq. in, even though they both used the same number of Coulombs per quantity of dw. Then I found I no longer needed to drink a full 8 oz glass to keep the cavities at bay. I needed only a single mouthfull every 3 or 4 days. A friend also has cavities that bothered her, and she also found she needed only a mouthfull every 3 or 4 days. She became a sensitive quality control expert for my experiments. She got so she could tell me how well the brew would work, and expressed her pleasure when I made good stuff. She explained to me how she does it, and I now can do the same. Just run your tongue along your teeth after holding some cs in your mouth for 10 minutes. The good stuff has a definite effect on the roughness. Weak stuff will not have as great an effect. Her son used to get cold sores, which is the topic of this thread. The new cs stopped them cold after he was put on a strict regime of 1 mouthful every 2 days. So, cs made at 100 uA/sq. in or less seems to work very well. Since you can simply hold it in your mouth and don't have to swallow it, there seems to be little worry about eating fruit and having the cs make silver citrate in your tummy. There is limited information on silver citrate in the archives, but here's one post that might be useful: --- http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m52130.html "There is scientific evidence that the use of citric acid may cause certain products ingested to cross the blood brain barrier Therefore, to avoid this possibility, unless authorized or prescribed by physician, it is best to avoid citric acid products (like orange or grapefruit juice) within one half hour before or after ingesting any dietary supplement or medication." Now, that one is a surprise for me. It suggests to not take juices within one half hour of taking silver. So, the implication is that silver normally does not cross the barrier, but silver citrate does. Hmmm. Marshall --- Now, go out and eat some candy so you can get cavities. Then you can use the pain to remind you when to take your cs:) Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[Listowner] Holy moly, everybody!!!
M. G. Devour6/17/03 1:46 PM > Be patient while these prohibited subject threads die a natural death > over the next couple of days. *** There will be very poor compliance about using the Off-Topic list until you put a permanent link to the OT list at the bottom with the others. I will guess that 60 to 70% of the members do NOT know how to post there easily. I'm sure glad that I unsubscribed to the OT list so I could concentrate on silver & related matters here on the silver list :-) Jack Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>
A lady I know was just diagnosed as having Multiple Myeloma. I would appreciate any testimonials as to the value of CS in treating it to give her.Bob Smith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart!
Wow!! I thought that only happened to me. Ahhh to find a kinsman after all this time. I thought my fingers were dyslexic. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:00 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Your life is being monitored by wal*mart! > > Chuck, > > Some people transpose numbers, my fingers transpose letters. Generally the > word > "the" comes out "hte" or "th e". > > Its called old age!!! > > Try it some time!! > > "OLD BOB" > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>evaporated CS experiment
Greetings, all I thought I would share the results of a short experiment in condensing CS by evaporation. I used about a pint of CS with a reading of 5.8 µS and with a barely perceptible TE in pitch dark room with a laser beam. I used a coffee maker plate which kept the temp. at about 140-150º F. this took about 5 hours. The volume of liquid was reduced to a little less than half, just eyeballing it. The color appeared to have a slight tint, but was so light I couldn't be sure it wasn't the color of the light source. I decanted it into a jar to cool and noticed that the coffee pot I had used for heating had a faint tint. So I put some 3% H2O2 in and got an instant reaction (a pale mist) and that eliminated the tint. I assume this was plated metal. When I tested the cooled CS with the PWT, it read 14 µS. This seems to indicate little or no loss of silver or loss of ionization. The TE was a bit more noticeable than before. I next added DW to the CS to its original volume and the reading came back to its original level, (or as close as it gets with a PWT). The TE was now very faint, perhaps more than before. Its hard to say because a lot of dust was picked up while evaporating. (No Lid). This was a pretty sloppy set-up. I'm looking forward to hearing of other more precise experiments. . FWIW. Al -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
