Re: CS al la Rupert Sheldrake, Sir John Eccles etc

2004-05-24 Thread Lew FH
Greetings

James Holmes wrote:

     no one really knows what it even is or where it comes from brain 
is not a storage device; it accesses morphic fields al la Rupert Sheldrake, and 
edits, processes, and displays the info.


   The Malaysian Abu Ghraid is a morphogenetic phenomenon: a critical mass 
manifestation of Prof Rupert Sheldrake's Morphic Resonance.

The webpage is at

URL: http://lewfh.tripod.com/holisticmultimediasetup/ 


With regards
   
 Lew



- Original Message -

DATE: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:59:27
From: Christine Carleton essential-liv...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: 

Thus understanding there is communication across the morphic fields,
how could these proven principals be put to use to expand the use of
CS, awareness of DMSO, and benefits of vitamins (especially C) to help
more people with their health challenges and diminish scepticism?
Christine

www.sheldrake.org/
http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1963/eccles-bio.html
http://www.veritaspub.com/

 From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:58:50 -0600
 Subject: RE: CSIs DMSO viricidal in vivo?

 Re:  no one really knows what it even is or where it comes from
clip...
 I brain is not a storage device; it accesses morphic fields al la Rupert
 Sheldrake, and edits, processes, and displays the info.
 JOH
  
 I wonder how they measure the 'frequency of consciousness' to get these
 numbers when conciousness itself has eluded definition so far and no one
 really knows what it even is or where it comes from.
 Ode
 
 
 


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Re: CSThe Glass vs Plastic debate..

2004-05-24 Thread Tony Moody
Hi,
A few points which don't seem quite correct to me: 
They talk of silver solution but NOT of colloidal silver or ionic silver or 
EIS. It would seem to me that silver nitrate or silver protein solutions 
which is maybe what they wer using, would be different from CS .

Pure conjecture on my part here; It is possible that there is 
something in the plastic that is poisoning the Staph!! I wonder if they 
did a control of distilled water in the plastic and glass tubes. 

Also 2.5ppm and 5ppm seem very very high for invitro. I would 
expect an order or two of magnitude less. I wonder why they have to 
use such a strong solution. I understand that a teaspoon or two of 
5ppm CS in a gallon of milk will stop it curdling. That is in the order 
of about 0.01 ppm. Which is about 100 times less than they are 
speaking of. ???
Tony



On 24 May 2004 at 1:08, scl...@netzero.com wrote:

 
  Anyone find these comments to be true? This is an article from ABL
  labs web page. The findings suggest that plastic may be better than
  glass for cs storage. Does ABL use plastic for there ASAP solution?
 Thanks
 Steve 
 
 Silver in Glass vs. Plastic Containers 
 
 
 Introduction 
 
 A great deal of controversy has arisen in the market place on the
 question of whether it is better to store silver solutions in glass
 versus plastic containers.  There is a misconception that has
 prevailed in the market place that glass is better.  The idea that
 glass containers are better for storing products which contain silver
 has never been proven scientifically.  In fact, it has been reported
 in other studies that glass may have a detrimental effect on silver
 products.   
 
 Test Work  
 
 I have been conducting biological studies for 3 years, in the
 laboratory of a major private institution, on the use of silver
 products to kill and inhibit the growth of bacteria.  I have conducted
 thousands of tests on numerous strains of pathogenic bacteria. In the
 testing I have completed, I have used both glass (5 ml glass test
 tubes) and plastic (Falcon 5 ml polypropylene plastic test tubes). In
 some of the test work we found that there was a difference in the
 amount of silver that was needed to kill the bacteria when glass was
 used versus plastic test tubes.  In order to make sure this was the
 case, it was decided that the MIC tests (Minimum Inhibitory
 Concentration) should be replicated by more than one person and a
 direct comparison was made.  The MIC tests were performed in
 triplicate in both 5 ml 13X100mm glass test tubes and 5 ml Falcon
 polypropylene plastic test tubes.  Results of the bacterial (MIC)
 tests showed that Staphylococcus aureus was inhibited at 2.5 ppm!
   when the MIC test was performed in the plastic test tubes.  S.
   aureus was inhibited at 5 ppm when the MIC test was performed in
   glass test tubes.  This suggested that the material with which the
   test tubes were made, specifically glass or plastic, may have
   effected the results of the MIC test.  Numerous other tests were
   also completed using larger concentrations of bacterium and in those
   tests it was found that there was no significant difference at all
   between using the glass test tubes versus plastic test tubes. 
 
 Other Studies 
 
 The studies which I performed are not the only tests showing that
 glass, in some circumstances, may have a detrimental effect on silver
 products.  It has been noted in another independent study which has
 been cited by other researchers that silver can adsorb to glass
 (Chambers 1960; Thurman 1989). With this in mind, it may have been
 possible that the silver could have adsorbed to the surface of the
 glass test tubes reducing the concentration of available silver
 interacting with the bacteria which resulted in having to use a higher
 amount of silver to kill the bacteria when the glass test tubes were
 used.  
 
 Conclusion  
 
 In the test work I have completed as well as in other available
 studies, it was found that glass may, in some cases, have a
 detrimental effect on silver products.  While it can be said that
 glass did not always show the detrimental effect, it can also be
 stated that we found no problems at all with using the plastic instead
 of glass.  Our tests, in conclusion with the other available
 independent study (1Chambers et al. and 2Thurman et al.), would
 suggest, by inference, that silver products should not be stored in
 glass containers which could reduce the available concentration of
 silver, but rather in a high quality plastic container. 
 
 Respectively, 
 
 David A. Revelli, MS  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSSkeptics

2004-05-24 Thread Ode Coyote
They need support?  LOL

Ode

They even have support groups for young girls without breasts. 


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Re: CSThe Glass vs Plastic debate..

2004-05-24 Thread Ode Coyote
  Do polypropylene leach elements kill or weaken bacterium?
 Same results with, say, polycarbonate?
Ode

At 01:08 AM 5/24/2004 GMT, you wrote:

 Anyone find these comments to be true? This is an article from ABL labs
web page. The findings suggest that plastic may be better than glass for cs
storage. Does ABL use plastic for there ASAP solution?
Thanks
Steve 

Silver in Glass vs. Plastic Containers 
  
  
Introduction 

A great deal of controversy has arisen in the market place on the question
of whether it is better to store silver solutions in glass versus plastic
containers.  There is a misconception that has prevailed in the market
place that glass is better.  The idea that glass containers are better for
storing products which contain silver has never been proven scientifically.
 In fact, it has been reported in other studies that glass may have a
detrimental effect on silver products.   

Test Work  

I have been conducting biological studies for 3 years, in the laboratory
of a major private institution, on the use of silver products to kill and
inhibit the growth of bacteria.  I have conducted thousands of tests on
numerous strains of pathogenic bacteria. In the testing I have completed, I
have used both glass (5 ml glass test tubes) and plastic (Falcon 5 ml
polypropylene plastic test tubes). In some of the test work we found that
there was a difference in the amount of silver that was needed to kill the
bacteria when glass was used versus plastic test tubes.  In order to make
sure this was the case, it was decided that the MIC tests (Minimum
Inhibitory Concentration) should be replicated by more than one person and
a direct comparison was made.  The MIC tests were performed in triplicate
in both 5 ml 13X100mm glass test tubes and 5 ml Falcon polypropylene
plastic test tubes.  Results of the bacterial (MIC) tests showed that
Staphylococcus aureus was inhibited at 2.5 ppm!
  when the MIC test was performed in the plastic test tubes.  S. aureus
was inhibited at 5 ppm when the MIC test was performed in glass test tubes.
 This suggested that the material with which the test tubes were made,
specifically glass or plastic, may have effected the results of the MIC
test.  Numerous other tests were also completed using larger concentrations
of bacterium and in those tests it was found that there was no significant
difference at all between using the glass test tubes versus plastic test
tubes. 

Other Studies 

The studies which I performed are not the only tests showing that glass,
in some circumstances, may have a detrimental effect on silver products.
It has been noted in another independent study which has been cited by
other researchers that silver can adsorb to glass (Chambers 1960; Thurman
1989). With this in mind, it may have been possible that the silver could
have adsorbed to the surface of the glass test tubes reducing the
concentration of available silver interacting with the bacteria which
resulted in having to use a higher amount of silver to kill the bacteria
when the glass test tubes were used.  

Conclusion  
  
In the test work I have completed as well as in other available studies,
it was found that glass may, in some cases, have a detrimental effect on
silver products.  While it can be said that glass did not always show the
detrimental effect, it can also be stated that we found no problems at all
with using the plastic instead of glass.  Our tests, in conclusion with the
other available independent study (1Chambers et al. and 2Thurman et al.),
would suggest, by inference, that silver products should not be stored in
glass containers which could reduce the available concentration of silver,
but rather in a high quality plastic container. 

Respectively, 

David A. Revelli, MS  
  
  

 


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CSColloidal Silver cure for Rheumatoid Arthritis testimonial

2004-05-24 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
 Hi,
 
 I asked Zeruiah if she would allow me to post her letter over the Silver List
 and she gave permission.  Also, when I asked her if she meant 25 PPM instead
 of 250 PPM, here is her reply:
 
Quote:   I really meant 250 PPM !!  Sometimes... I would make it as strong
as probably 400 PPM we really had to knock this stuff in the head
!!!
 
 Absolutely 100% !!  I totally agree !  Colloidal Silver completely
 eradicated the Palendromic Rheumatoid Arthritis ( all arthritis is a virus !!
 ) in my husband. He was in bed for 8 years because of it !!!  I give it to
 ALL my animals !!  It WORKS !!
 
 He took it orally. We made our own and tried to give it to him at no less
 than 250 PPM... he drank, in the beginning, over 2 quarts a day~~
 Palendromic it is a type of RA that is in the fibers of the tissues of
 the body. Have you ever skinned an animal ?  You know the white paper-like
 tissue, fascia, that lies between the muscle wall and skin of animals ?  It
 also runs all throughout every muscle group in the body. THAT is where the RA
 was at any given moment, this fiberous tissue would 'chrystalize'...
 leaving my husband's muscles as rigid as a 2x4.. and excruciating pain !!
 Anyway. it has been now 5 full years since he started on the CS and he
 has resumed working full time we were living on welfare and social
 security... now, we are self-sufficient.  THREE CHEERS FOR COLLOIDAL SILVER
 !  End quote:
 
 Jean Baugh
 
 Zeruiah~
 



Re: CSColloidal Silver cure for Rheumatoid Arthritis testimonial

2004-05-24 Thread Robb Allen
Colloidal Silver cure for Rheumatoid Arthritis testimonialHm.I 
don't think it ispossible to make it this strong..and if so, how did 
she test it?  Robb
  - Original Message - 
  From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 9:06 AM
  Subject: CSColloidal Silver cure for Rheumatoid Arthritis testimonial


  Hi,

  I asked Zeruiah if she would allow me to post her letter over the Silver 
List and she gave permission.  Also, when I asked her if she meant 25 PPM 
instead of 250 PPM, here is her reply:


  Quote:   I really meant 250 PPM !!  Sometimes... I would make it as strong as 
probably 400 PPM we really had to knock this stuff in the head !!!



  Absolutely 100% !!  I totally agree !  Colloidal Silver completely 
eradicated the Palendromic Rheumatoid Arthritis ( all arthritis is a virus !! ) 
in my husband. He was in bed for 8 years because of it !!!  I give it to ALL my 
animals !!  It WORKS !!

  He took it orally. We made our own and tried to give it to him at no less 
than 250 PPM... he drank, in the beginning, over 2 quarts a day~~  
Palendromic it is a type of RA that is in the fibers of the tissues of the 
body. Have you ever skinned an animal ?  You know the white paper-like tissue, 
fascia, that lies between the muscle wall and skin of animals ?  It also runs 
all throughout every muscle group in the body. THAT is where the RA was at 
any given moment, this fiberous tissue would 'chrystalize'... leaving my 
husband's muscles as rigid as a 2x4.. and excruciating pain !!  Anyway. it 
has been now 5 full years since he started on the CS and he has resumed working 
full time we were living on welfare and social security... now, we are 
self-sufficient.  THREE CHEERS FOR COLLOIDAL SILVER !  End quote:

  Jean Baugh

  Zeruiah~




RE: CSSleeping aid?

2004-05-24 Thread Garnet
Is this point below the thumb or the small finger? I am having trouble
visualizing where it is.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 14:17, Terry wrote:
 No luck last night, maybe tonight will be better.
 
 Terry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net [mailto:oldgl...@bigcountry.net] 
 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 2:39 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSSleeping aid?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 My sister wrote me the following fascinating information.  Not sure
 where it came from but an insomniac like myself will try anything once.
 I know there is a pressure point in this same place for nausea.  Has
 anyone ever tried this before?
 
 Use a kidney bean to give yourself the best nights sleep of your life.
 They say to tape a kidney bean to the inside of your right wrist, three
 finger widths from the crease of your wrist.  They claim you can't stay
 awake. This is one of the most powerful sleep-promoting points in
 Oriental medicine.  If you doubt it works, try it tonight, just before
 you go to sleep.  This man's patients have been amazed and they've
 stopped taking their tranquilizers, sleeping pills and antidepressants.
 End quote.
 
 Jean Baugh 
 
 
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Re: CSfood crops sprayed with pesticides can be labeled organic

2004-05-24 Thread Garnet
True enough that consumers are conditioned to respond to the term
organic, but most of them know of the dilution of the standards by
now. I don't think they will have any trouble adjusting to new
terminology in response to the USDA's poor stewardship of organic
standards. Most of the consumers of organic are a motivated intelligent
lot. 

Supply it and they will buy it.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 23:22, Christine Carleton wrote:
 MAY 23, 2004. Not only is the government eroding its own definitions
 of organic, it is setting up a more difficult road for genuine
 organic farmers. 
 
 On the first point, for example, we have the USDA announcement that
 food crops sprayed with pesticides can be labeled organic if all
 parties concerned DO NOT KNOW the ingredients. 
 
 Well, of course, the government has also permitted pesticide
 manufacturers to HIDE INGREDIENTS as proprietary corporate
 information. 
 
 Clip.
 
 Organic growers should band together in many more regional groups and
 present their own standards and promises to the consumer---without
 using the word organic. 
 
 That may sound like suicide---because millions and millions of dollars
 have been spent driving home the meaning of the word organic for
 decades---but when the government controls the definition of word,
 we're all in trouble, and there is no use denying it. 
 
 JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com 
 
 


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Re: CSSleeping aid?

2004-05-24 Thread Jim Wright (Lists)

Garnet wrote:


Is this point below the thumb or the small finger? I am having trouble
visualizing where it is.

Garnet


Garnet,

I use this method and have found it to be effective for me. Actually 
the location is on the inside of the right arm. If you hold your 
right arm turned with the palm up and lay three fingers of your left 
hand (I use the index, middle and ring) on the crease of the wrist (I 
have two and use the bottom crease) in the middle of the arm it 
should place it correctly. I also use this paper tape that women use 
to secure spit curls and so forth because while it holds the bean it 
is also easy to remove. Some folks have sensitive skin that certain 
types of tape seem to irritate.


Hope this helps.

Jim W.




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Re: CSSleeping aid?

2004-05-24 Thread Garnet

Ok so it is on the inside surface of the right arm. And is it in the
center of that area?

BTW I have noticed that this part of the arm responds rapidly to massage
when working on hands and forearms for carpal tunnel and general
relaxation. I will use a back and forth twisting motion, like you are
wringing out a wet towel, up and down the forearm.

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 10:09, Jim Wright (Lists) wrote:
 Garnet wrote:
 
  Is this point below the thumb or the small finger? I am having trouble
  visualizing where it is.
  
  Garnet
 
 Garnet,
 
 I use this method and have found it to be effective for me. Actually 
 the location is on the inside of the right arm. If you hold your 
 right arm turned with the palm up and lay three fingers of your left 
 hand (I use the index, middle and ring) on the crease of the wrist (I 
 have two and use the bottom crease) in the middle of the arm it 
 should place it correctly. I also use this paper tape that women use 
 to secure spit curls and so forth because while it holds the bean it 
 is also easy to remove. Some folks have sensitive skin that certain 
 types of tape seem to irritate.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Jim W.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSSleeping aid?

2004-05-24 Thread Jim Wright (Lists)

Garnet wrote:

Ok so it is on the inside surface of the right arm. And is it in the
center of that area?

BTW I have noticed that this part of the arm responds rapidly to massage
when working on hands and forearms for carpal tunnel and general
relaxation. I will use a back and forth twisting motion, like you are
wringing out a wet towel, up and down the forearm.

Garnet



Yep, I center it in the middle of the arm. I think I heard somewhere 
that this is a major acupuncture meridian.


Jim W.


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CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Heather King (LCA)
Hi All,

Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do
anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?
My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their
church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every
day to prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like
that, but after lurking for years on this list I know that those
particular blanket statements are begging to be examined...any light to
be shed? Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing
antibiotics for daily use for malaria prevention? Should I question her
further about this?  

Thanks in advance...
Heather



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CS

2004-05-24 Thread Heather King (LCA)
Hi All,
 
Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do
anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?
My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their
church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every
day to prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like
that, but after lurking for years on this list I know that those
particular blanket statements are begging to be examined...any light to
be shed? Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing
antibiotics for daily use for malaria prevention? Should I question her
further about this?  
 
Thanks in advance...
Heather
 
Heather King
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CSORGANIC TRICKERY

2004-05-24 Thread Thora Rasmussen
Re: CSSilver For Infected ToothHere is an off topic comment I posted.

ORGANIC TRICKERY
 http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/m3362.html   

 
Thora
BC, Canada
 



 


Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread missett
You asked:

Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing antibiotics
for daily use for malaria prevention?

None, except his ignorance.  He will also ruin her immune system for life.
I believe CS is a prophylactic for malaria, just as it is dengue fever, a
close relative of malaria.  I would take only CS, and I live in a tropical
setting where malaria occasionally strikes.







- Original Message - 
From: Heather King (LCA) heath...@microsoft.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:20 AM
Subject: CSMalaria questions


 Hi All,Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing
 antibiotics for daily use for malaria prevention? Should

 Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do
 anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?
 My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their
 church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every
 day to prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like
 that, but after lurking for years on this list I know that those
 particular blanket statements are begging to be examined...any light to
 be shed? I question her
 further about this?

 Thanks in advance...
 Heather



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CS

2004-05-24 Thread Trem

Hi List, 

This was passed to me by one of my customers with the question...you said 
parasites will not be killed by using CS.  I had previously made that 
statement to him in a query to our site. 

This is from Hulda Clarks site.  Check the inconsistencies and non-facts. 

She has an excerpt from Alfred Searle stating CS kills parasites. Apparently no 
one ever corrected himor are we all wrong?  I may be wrong but I'm not in 
doubt that CS kills only single cell organisms. 

She states that the particles are .1 microns in size.   Huh!! 
.001 to .01 might be a more realistic figure. 

She states the process is done by electromagnetism. Mmmmh m. Whatever 
happened to electrolysis? 

She says her CS generator can make from 5 to 500 PPM.   Sure it can! 

If such a well known researcher as Hulda makes these kinds of statements what 
do you think the public is going to think?  I don't want to be the one to 
confront her about the statements but I think she should be set straight.  
Anyone willing to take her to task?  Or am I the one that has the wrong 
information? 

This site has caused me to lose my respect for her.  And I had plenty. 

Trem 

_

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the Colloidal Silver Maker. 

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biomedical researcher from Syracuse University, and author of The Body Electric 
and Cross Currents, recognized a correlation between low silver levels and 
sickness. He said silver deficiency is responsible for the improper functioning 
of the immune system. 

Regarding the innate ability of metallic silver to contro ionfection, Dr. 
Becker said: all of the organisms that we tested were sensitive to the 
electrically generated silver ion, including some that were resistant to all 
known antibiotics. On the safety of silver, he said, in no case were any 
undesirable side effects of the silver treatment apparent. 

Alfred Searle, founder of the pharmaceutical conglomerate, wrote in 1919 that 
applying Colloidal Silver to human subjects has been done in a large number of 
cases with astonishingly successful results. For internal administration, 
orally or hypodermically, it has the advantage of being rapidly fatal to 
parasites without toxic action to its host. It is quite stable. It protects 
rabbits from ten times the lethal dose of tetanus or diphteria toxin. 

What is Colloidal Silver? 

Colloidal Silver is the result of an electromagnetic process that pulls 
submicroscopic particles of silver (.1 microns) from a larger piece of pure 
silver into water. These particles are held in suspension by the tiny electric 
charge on each atom. As minute particles, the silver can more easily penetrate 
and travel throughout the body. 

How Does It Work? 

Colloidal Silver works as a catalyst, disabling the enzyme that one-celled 
bacteria, fungi and viruses use for their metabolism. Unlike with antibiotics, 
resistant strains have never been known to develop. In fact, antibiotics are 
effective only against about a dozen forms of bacteria and fungi, but never 
viruses. Because no known disease-causing organism can live in the presence of 
even minute traces of silver, Colloidal Silver is effective against moiré than 
650 different disease-causing pathogens. When Is It Used? 

Here is a small sample of diseases against which Colloidal Silver has been used 
successfully: acne, allergies, appendicitis, arthritis, blood parasites, 
bubonic plague, burns 
(Colloidal Silver is one of the few treatments that can keep severe burn 
patients alive), cancer, candida, cholera, chronic fatigue, colds and flu, 
conjunctivitis, diabetes, gonorrhea, hay fever, herpes, leprosy, leukaemia, 
lupus, Lyme disease, malaria, meningitis, parasitic infections both viral and 
fungal, pneumonia, rheumatism, ringworm, scarlet fever, septic conditions of 
the eyes, ears, mouth and throat, shingles, skin cancer, staph infections, 
strep infections, syphilis, toxemia, trenchfoot, all forms of viruses, warts 
and stomach ulcers. 

What About Pets? 

Colloidal Silver has many veterinary uses, such as healing burns and 
infections, and is also an effective treatment against the dreaded canine parvo 
virus. 

In The Garden? 

You'll also find Colloidal Silver very handy in the garden, against bacterial, 
fungal, and viral attacks on plants. Simply spray diluted Colloidal Silver on 
the leaves, and add to soil. 

On Vacation? 

In addition to being the most essential first-aid kit item it can also be used 
to purify drinking water. Don't go on vacation without it! 

The Colloidal Silver Generator 

Produces 16 ounces of the highest quality Colloidal Silver in just a few 
minutes. You can also create Colloidal Silver in any concentration, from one to 
500 parts per million. Ready to work and easy 

CS

2004-05-24 Thread Trem

Hi List, 

This was passed to me by one of my customers with the question...you said 
parasites will not be killed by using CS.  I had previously made that 
statement to him in a query to our site. 

This is from Hulda Clarks site.  Check the inconsistencies and non-facts. 

She has an excerpt from Alfred Searle stating CS kills parasites. Apparently no 
one ever corrected himor are we all wrong?  I may be wrong but I'm not in 
doubt that CS kills only single cell organisms. 

She states that the particles are .1 microns in size.   Huh!! 
.001 to .01 might be a more realistic figure. 

She states the process is done by electromagnetism. Mmmmh m. Whatever 
happened to electrolysis? 

She says her CS generator can make from 5 to 500 PPM.   Sure it can! 

If such a well known researcher as Hulda makes these kinds of statements what 
do you think the public is going to think?  I don't want to be the one to 
confront her about the statements but I think she should be set straight.  
Anyone willing to take her to task?  Or am I the one that has the wrong 
information? 

This site has caused me to lose my respect for her.  And I had plenty. 

Trem 

_

Information About Colloidal Silver This text provided by the manufacturer of 
the Colloidal Silver Maker. 

Experience the Healing Power of Nature Dr. Robert O. Becker, MD, noted 
biomedical researcher from Syracuse University, and author of The Body Electric 
and Cross Currents, recognized a correlation between low silver levels and 
sickness. He said silver deficiency is responsible for the improper functioning 
of the immune system. 

Regarding the innate ability of metallic silver to contro ionfection, Dr. 
Becker said: all of the organisms that we tested were sensitive to the 
electrically generated silver ion, including some that were resistant to all 
known antibiotics. On the safety of silver, he said, in no case were any 
undesirable side effects of the silver treatment apparent. 

Alfred Searle, founder of the pharmaceutical conglomerate, wrote in 1919 that 
applying Colloidal Silver to human subjects has been done in a large number of 
cases with astonishingly successful results. For internal administration, 
orally or hypodermically, it has the advantage of being rapidly fatal to 
parasites without toxic action to its host. It is quite stable. It protects 
rabbits from ten times the lethal dose of tetanus or diphteria toxin. 

What is Colloidal Silver? 

Colloidal Silver is the result of an electromagnetic process that pulls 
submicroscopic particles of silver (.1 microns) from a larger piece of pure 
silver into water. These particles are held in suspension by the tiny electric 
charge on each atom. As minute particles, the silver can more easily penetrate 
and travel throughout the body. 

How Does It Work? 

Colloidal Silver works as a catalyst, disabling the enzyme that one-celled 
bacteria, fungi and viruses use for their metabolism. Unlike with antibiotics, 
resistant strains have never been known to develop. In fact, antibiotics are 
effective only against about a dozen forms of bacteria and fungi, but never 
viruses. Because no known disease-causing organism can live in the presence of 
even minute traces of silver, Colloidal Silver is effective against moiré than 
650 different disease-causing pathogens. When Is It Used? 

Here is a small sample of diseases against which Colloidal Silver has been used 
successfully: acne, allergies, appendicitis, arthritis, blood parasites, 
bubonic plague, burns 
(Colloidal Silver is one of the few treatments that can keep severe burn 
patients alive), cancer, candida, cholera, chronic fatigue, colds and flu, 
conjunctivitis, diabetes, gonorrhea, hay fever, herpes, leprosy, leukaemia, 
lupus, Lyme disease, malaria, meningitis, parasitic infections both viral and 
fungal, pneumonia, rheumatism, ringworm, scarlet fever, septic conditions of 
the eyes, ears, mouth and throat, shingles, skin cancer, staph infections, 
strep infections, syphilis, toxemia, trenchfoot, all forms of viruses, warts 
and stomach ulcers. 

What About Pets? 

Colloidal Silver has many veterinary uses, such as healing burns and 
infections, and is also an effective treatment against the dreaded canine parvo 
virus. 

In The Garden? 

You'll also find Colloidal Silver very handy in the garden, against bacterial, 
fungal, and viral attacks on plants. Simply spray diluted Colloidal Silver on 
the leaves, and add to soil. 

On Vacation? 

In addition to being the most essential first-aid kit item it can also be used 
to purify drinking water. Don't go on vacation without it! 

The Colloidal Silver Generator 

Produces 16 ounces of the highest quality Colloidal Silver in just a few 
minutes. You can also create Colloidal Silver in any concentration, from one to 
500 parts per million. Ready to work and easy 

CS

2004-05-24 Thread Trem
Hi DB,

I used Indium for about a year internally and never did notice any effects.  I 
mixed my own at the ratio specified in the patent which is 1 gm Indium with 3.5 
cc distilled water.

How did you use it?  As a liquid?  If so how did you keep it wet?  Or did you 
use it as a powder?  I envision applying some of the powder to a Band-Aid and 
wetting the bandage.

Suggestions please as I have a skin problem too and so far nothing has worked.

Best regards,

Trem



- Original Message - 
From: daddybob daddybob52...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 11:50 AM
Subject: [silver_list] CSindium- surprise results


 Seems there was a thread about it a while back and
 someone joked about how the only result they had seen
 was that their pocketbook was lighter from buying it.
 I tended to agree at the time.
 
 We've had a small bottle of it for well over a year
 but neither I nor my wife relished taking it- mouth
 puckering to say the least. It was just sitting there
 on the sink.
 
 I've had a particular skin problem for which nothing
 else has worked so one day I decided to give it a try.
 
 Not to bore with all the details, but I think these
 details are important. I had a spot that originated as
 a pimple a few years ago, at the base of my neck dead
 center on my chest, right where it's exposed when the
 second button of a shirt is not buttoned. It never
 healed properly. It became an open scar-tissue hole
 right through my skin. It would keep a small scab,
 that would dissolve in a shower or get removed when
 towel drying, or if I scratched at my chest, then it
 would bleed again. Two months ago it was turning
 purple and was about the diameter of a pea. It started
 to worry us.
 
 When I first starting applying a (tiny) drop of Indium
 Sulfate, it would burn and keep burning for quite a
 long time. It didn't take long at all for the purple
 to disappear. In maybe two weeks I could not find a
 scab on it anymore and could not make it bleed. That
 was two weeks ago now, for a total of about a month
 since I started doing this. All that remains is a
 small spot that is somewhat more red than the
 surrounding skin. (I tend to be red).
 
 I started using it on a few other age spots and scars.
 While none have disappeared completely, there are some
 that I would have to point out for anyone to notice
 now. All have faded markedly in a short time. I have
 one particularly bad burn scar on my left shin
 slightly smaller than a dime. It's still there but
 considerably faded.
 
 DB
 



CS

2004-05-24 Thread bob smith
A friend who sells a line of multi level products told me that they were no
longer making their silver solution.  It seems that a woman  was giving her
baby several tsp. of a silver product a day (he wasn't sure who's) and it
died.  Whether the FDA asked or ordered this company to stop production was
unclear. Are other mfgs. affected?
 How far are we from the enslavement that the fascist states of  Germany and
Italy experienced? I think I hear the tramp of marching feet on my street.
Bob Smith


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Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Christine Carleton
This is not CS information, thus you may want to DELETE now.
The following is dealing with Malaria from other perspectives.

 I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but after lurking for
 years on this list I know that those particular blanket statements are
 begging to be examined...any light to be shed?

Heather,

If your Mom would like to know how to 'tap-out' ANY virus, bacteria, or
other 'mysterious' discomfort (yes even the very nasty ones - some of those
which evoke fear as we hear about them on TV) then I would suggest your
Mom take basic BodyTalk levels 1  2.

Following that she would probably be best advised to take a 100 - 300 hour
anatomy course as a foundation to detail and resource info - can be done by
distance through some Universities.  There are also three preliminary
International BodyTalk Association approved Anatomy and Physiology college
level courses available through correspondence. If she does not have time,
at least get anatomy reference books - she can e-mail back to her BT
Instructor how to address the info. Confidence comes with past healing
experience and experiencing results.

Imagine being a missionary helping where there are limited meds -
one's INNATE WISDOM is capable of great things.  No, this is not biblical,
religious or consulting spirits beyond the body.  It works without prayer,
although if one subscribes to prayer, I'm sure it may help.

Nor is this 'hocus-pocus'.

My teacher retired his 20 yr. chiropractic license (could not be dual
certified in his province) to licence in BodyTalk which gave superior
results to his CD and allergy elimination techniques.  An Ob/Gyn - who
headed the Obstetrics and Gynecology department in a major US research
hospital - found herself between a rock and a hard place when - her surgery
intake numbers dropped over 10 fold after she used BT on her female clients.
The reduced surgical $$'s cut into federal grants available to the hospital.
It did not meet with the approval ($$$'s) of the hospital board.  She left a
highly prestigious position at the hospital and is in private BT practice.
I dropped all my certifications in many modalities because BT embraced or
moved beyond them all after I had completed taking all the modules plus...

BodyTalk does not preclude allopathic benefits.  E.g.  A CD who was just
learning and practising for 10 minutes before doing his CD work could not
get 'Permissions' from a woman to do BodyTalk.  BT then directs the
practitioner to other modalities... in this case it went 'surgeon'. She had
pacemaker which was 'dying' and only by directing her husband to
 take her immediately to her heart surgeon was her life saved.

A body maybe exhibiting very sick symptoms and it may have a nasty
bacterial, viral or other yucky-ugly-nasty.  After going through the
protocol and 'tapping out' - BT lingo - the temperature will usually rise to
'burn off' the bacterial, viral or other yucky-ugly-nasty.  Usually the
issue has resolved itself in 24 hours.  If supremely nasty, or one has been
dealing/denying it for a few days, it may take 36-48 hours to be gone.
I have seen a girl diagnosed with MS on two continents with 3 diagnosis,
off work for over a year on disability be down graded in a year to 'must
have been a tick - 'we suspect Lyme's disease', to being over all of that in
almost 2 years, and is now back to teaching - full time.

The greater blessing of BT is one can be in the 'out-back' so to speak, or
in a 'third world country' and generally does not need meds.  Also helpful
if one pulls a muscle or has digestive challenges in a new environment.

Treatments can be done from a distance with an experienced practitioner
if a newby's confidence or depth of understanding is not yet there - it will
come with time.  

Also, BT works on animals and plants, crops  earth - fungus, rot, etc.

BodyTalkers are helping kids with autism - brain damage - ah..gee... it
seems to always comes up 'thimerosal' -  but that is not 'proven' in law in
the realms of medicine or legal responsibility.  Nor does it matter.

You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change
something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.
--- R. Buckminster Fuller

Numerous MD's, ND's, CD's, Veterinarians, Classical Chinese Acupuncturists,
RMT's, and many others are learning this modality world wide.  The web site
for classes across the States are at:  http://www.bodytalksystem.com

Malaria - with medical quality (EC-AFNOR) essential oils - 'Once a person
has contracted the disease, oils such as lemon can help amplify immune
response.  Add lemon oil and honey to water and sip when attack
is impending.' Ref.: Essential Oils Desk Reference ISBN 0-943685-25-7
P.S. I would use lemon in water daily for optimum protection.

Obviously it she has a CS maker it would help - but if she is not into that,
or there are electrical limitations, the BT is not dependent upon anything
outside of the human body so it may be 

CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread DByron
Hi Heather,

Quinine is, or at least used to be, the conventional prophylactic for
malaria--small amounts taken orally several weeks in advance of possible
exposure and then during one's stay.  I never heard of antibiotics being
used as a preventative.

Deborah


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CSColloidal Silver cure for Rheumatoid Arthritis testimonial

2004-05-24 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi Robb,

I have no idea but here is her email address so you can contact her:
Zeruiah Borre palof...@direcway.com

No point in me being a middleman for you all are much more experienced in
Colloidal Silver than I am.  :)

Jean Baugh



 Hm.I don't think it ispossible to make it this strong..and
 if so, how did she test it?  Robb
 - Original Message -
 
 Quote:   I really meant 250 PPM !!  Sometimes... I would make it as strong as
 probably 400 PPM we really had to knock this stuff in the head !!!
 
 Absolutely 100% !!  I totally agree !  Colloidal Silver completely
 eradicated the Palendromic Rheumatoid Arthritis ( all arthritis is a virus
 !! ) in my husband. He was in bed for 8 years because of it !!!  I give it
 to ALL my animals !!  It WORKS !!
 
 He took it orally. We made our own and tried to give it to him at no less
 than 250 PPM... he drank, in the beginning, over 2 quarts a day~~
 Palendromic it is a type of RA that is in the fibers of the tissues of
 the body. Have you ever skinned an animal ?  You know the white paper-like
 tissue, fascia, that lies between the muscle wall and skin of animals ?  It
 also runs all throughout every muscle group in the body. THAT is where the
 RA was at any given moment, this fiberous tissue would 'chrystalize'...
 leaving my husband's muscles as rigid as a 2x4.. and excruciating pain !!
 Anyway. it has been now 5 full years since he started on the CS and he
 has resumed working full time we were living on welfare and social
 security... now, we are self-sufficient.  THREE CHEERS FOR COLLOIDAL SILVER
 !  End quote:
 
 Zeruiah~
 
 
 



CSSleeping aid?

2004-05-24 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi Garnet,

I see the confusion.  It is measured from the crease of your wrist up toward
your elbow.  

Jean Baugh


 
 Is this point below the thumb or the small finger? I am having trouble
 visualizing where it is.
 
 Garnet
 
 


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Re: CSSleeping aid?

2004-05-24 Thread Christine Carleton
Garnet,

Go to: http://www.yinyanghouse.com/acupoints/lu_meridian.html
for a visual.  It's LU6 on the right arm.

Christine


 Is this point below the thumb or the small finger? I am having trouble
 visualizing where it is.
 
 Garnet


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CSRumors, lies and factoids

2004-05-24 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi,

This is how the FDA operates.  If someone dies and they know they were
taking 'whatever', they use this in the rumor mills, as the catalyst for the
death.  No truth or proof needed!

Also, I would never sell anything to anyone to give to a baby, goat's milk
or otherwise, because if that baby dies from any cause unrelated to your
product, the burden of proof seems to be on your back.  If anyone contacts
me about buying goat's milk for their baby, I'm sympathetic but not stupid;
I will sell them a goat but not the milk.

Jean Baugh



 A friend who sells a line of multi level products told me that they were no
 longer making their silver solution.  It seems that a woman  was giving her
 baby several tsp. of a silver product a day (he wasn't sure who's) and it
 died.  Whether the FDA asked or ordered this company to stop production was
 unclear. Are other mfgs. affected?
 How far are we from the enslavement that the fascist states of  Germany and
 Italy experienced? I think I hear the tramp of marching feet on my street.
 Bob Smith
 
 
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Re: CS

2004-05-24 Thread Lagoon
the asap solution they talk about in this clifton article about malaria is just 
CS...

i would have them take a machine to make CS with them



http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=18071945
  - Original Message - 
  From: Heather King (LCA) 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:22 PM
  Subject: CS


  Hi All,

   

  Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do anything at 
all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?

  My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their church 
and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every day to prevent 
malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but after lurking 
for years on this list I know that those particular blanket statements are 
begging to be examined...any light to be shed? Are there good reasons why my 
Mom's doctor would be prescribing antibiotics for daily use for malaria 
prevention? Should I question her further about this?  

   

  Thanks in advance...

  Heather

   

  Heather King

  8/2230  425.706.2986

  Microsoft Information Resources

  http://legalweb/sites/Records/default.aspx

   

   


Re: CS

2004-05-24 Thread bborgers

  - Original Message - 
  From: Trem 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:30 PM
  Subject: CS



  I've read it does kill parasites because in the beginning they are all one 
cell organism's. Whether this is true or not studies should be done(as usual)



  This was passed to me by one of my customers with the question...you said 
parasites will not be killed by using CS.  I had previously made that 
statement to him in a query to our site. 

  This is from Hulda Clarks site.  Check the inconsistencies and non-facts. 

  She has an excerpt from Alfred Searle stating CS kills parasites. Apparently 
no one ever corrected himor are we all wrong?  I may be wrong but I'm not 
in doubt that CS kills only single cell organisms. 


Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Christine Carleton
The CS machine is great in a first world country.
However in a third world country one must consider such thing as
1. electricity challenges - frequency of service
2. the instrument is not 'detained' at customs
3. the machine is not 'broken'
4. the machine does not 'disappear'
5. superstition
6. spoils of war...
7. other political interests
..etc...
Christine

From: Lagoon lag...@eastlink.ca writes:
...  i would have them take a machine to make CS with them

- Original Message -
From: Heather King (LCA) mailto:heath...@microsoft.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: CS

Hi All, 

Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do anything
at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?

My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their church
and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every day to
prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but
after lurking for years on this list I know that those particular blanket
statements are begging to be examined...any light to be shed? Are there good
reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing antibiotics for daily use
for malaria prevention? Should I question her further about this?

Thanks in advance...

Heather 
Heather King 
8/2230  425.706.2986
Microsoft Information Resources
http://legalweb/sites/Records/default.aspx 



Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Bernadette
Remember no question is dumb.

I was wondering if putting CS in a free standing birdbath (non circulating
water) would harm the birds?  However, more importantly would the CS kill
the mosquito larvae?  We have a pond and I know the fish will take care of
the mosquito larvae, but not certain about other standing water.  Thanks for
any help I receive on this matter.

Bernadette
- Original Message - 
From: Christine Carleton essential-liv...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: CSMalaria questions


 This is not CS information, thus you may want to DELETE now.
 The following is dealing with Malaria from other perspectives.

  I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but after lurking
for
  years on this list I know that those particular blanket statements are
  begging to be examined...any light to be shed?

 Heather,

 If your Mom would like to know how to 'tap-out' ANY virus, bacteria, or
 other 'mysterious' discomfort (yes even the very nasty ones - some of
those
 which evoke fear as we hear about them on TV) then I would suggest your
 Mom take basic BodyTalk levels 1  2.

 Following that she would probably be best advised to take a 100 - 300 hour
 anatomy course as a foundation to detail and resource info - can be done
by
 distance through some Universities.  There are also three preliminary
 International BodyTalk Association approved Anatomy and Physiology college
 level courses available through correspondence. If she does not have time,
 at least get anatomy reference books - she can e-mail back to her BT
 Instructor how to address the info. Confidence comes with past healing
 experience and experiencing results.

 Imagine being a missionary helping where there are limited meds -
 one's INNATE WISDOM is capable of great things.  No, this is not biblical,
 religious or consulting spirits beyond the body.  It works without prayer,
 although if one subscribes to prayer, I'm sure it may help.

 Nor is this 'hocus-pocus'.

 My teacher retired his 20 yr. chiropractic license (could not be dual
 certified in his province) to licence in BodyTalk which gave superior
 results to his CD and allergy elimination techniques.  An Ob/Gyn - who
 headed the Obstetrics and Gynecology department in a major US research
 hospital - found herself between a rock and a hard place when - her
surgery
 intake numbers dropped over 10 fold after she used BT on her female
clients.
 The reduced surgical $$'s cut into federal grants available to the
hospital.
 It did not meet with the approval ($$$'s) of the hospital board.  She left
a
 highly prestigious position at the hospital and is in private BT practice.
 I dropped all my certifications in many modalities because BT embraced or
 moved beyond them all after I had completed taking all the modules plus...

 BodyTalk does not preclude allopathic benefits.  E.g.  A CD who was just
 learning and practising for 10 minutes before doing his CD work could not
 get 'Permissions' from a woman to do BodyTalk.  BT then directs the
 practitioner to other modalities... in this case it went 'surgeon'. She
had
 pacemaker which was 'dying' and only by directing her husband to
  take her immediately to her heart surgeon was her life saved.

 A body maybe exhibiting very sick symptoms and it may have a nasty
 bacterial, viral or other yucky-ugly-nasty.  After going through the
 protocol and 'tapping out' - BT lingo - the temperature will usually rise
to
 'burn off' the bacterial, viral or other yucky-ugly-nasty.  Usually the
 issue has resolved itself in 24 hours.  If supremely nasty, or one has
been
 dealing/denying it for a few days, it may take 36-48 hours to be gone.
 I have seen a girl diagnosed with MS on two continents with 3 diagnosis,
 off work for over a year on disability be down graded in a year to 'must
 have been a tick - 'we suspect Lyme's disease', to being over all of that
in
 almost 2 years, and is now back to teaching - full time.

 The greater blessing of BT is one can be in the 'out-back' so to speak, or
 in a 'third world country' and generally does not need meds.  Also helpful
 if one pulls a muscle or has digestive challenges in a new environment.

 Treatments can be done from a distance with an experienced practitioner
 if a newby's confidence or depth of understanding is not yet there - it
will
 come with time.

 Also, BT works on animals and plants, crops  earth - fungus, rot, etc.

 BodyTalkers are helping kids with autism - brain damage - ah..gee... it
 seems to always comes up 'thimerosal' -  but that is not 'proven' in law
in
 the realms of medicine or legal responsibility.  Nor does it matter.

 You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change
 something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.
 --- R. Buckminster Fuller

 Numerous MD's, ND's, CD's, Veterinarians, Classical Chinese
Acupuncturists,
 RMT's, and many others are learning this modality world wide.  The 

Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Lagoon
Re: CSMalaria questions
  - Original Message - 
  From: Christine Carleton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMalaria questions


  The CS machine is great in a first world country.
  However in a third world country one must consider such thing as
  1. electricity challenges - frequency of service
  i don't know about trem's machines, but the silverpuppy will work on almost 
any incoming voltage...

  the worries below might also cover expensive and scarce antibiotics:


  2. the instrument is not 'detained' at customs
  3. the machine is not 'broken'
  4. the machine does not 'disappear'
  5. superstition
  6. spoils of war...
  7. other political interests
  ..etc...
  Christine



 From: Lagoon lag...@eastlink.ca writes:

...  i would have them take a machine to make CS with them


  - Original Message - 
  From: Heather King (LCA) mailto:heath...@microsoft.com  
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:22 PM
  Subject: CS

  Hi All, 

  Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do 
anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria? 

  My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their 
church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every day to 
prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but after 
lurking for years on this list I know that those particular blanket statements 
are begging to be examined...any light to be shed? Are there good reasons why 
my Mom's doctor would be prescribing antibiotics for daily use for malaria 
prevention? Should I question her further about this?  

  Thanks in advance... 

  Heather 

Heather King 
8/2230  425.706.2986 
Microsoft Information Resources 
http://legalweb/sites/Records/default.aspx 


CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi Heather,

Google the herb named Artemisinin for malaria.  It has thousands of years of
use and safety behind it.

Jean Baugh



 Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do
 anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?
 My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their
 church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every
 day to prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like
 that, but after lurking for years on this list I know that those
 particular blanket statements are begging to be examined...any light to
 be shed? Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing
 antibiotics for daily use for malaria prevention? Should I question her
 further about this?
 
 Thanks in advance...
 Heather
 
 
 
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Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread missett
CS will not kill mosquito larvae.  They love it.

- Original Message - 
From: Bernadette bernade...@pa.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: CSMalaria questions


 Remember no question is dumb.

 I was wondering if putting CS in a free standing birdbath (non circulating
 water) would harm the birds?  However, more importantly would the CS kill
 the mosquito larvae?  We have a pond and I know the fish will take care of
 the mosquito larvae, but not certain about other standing water.  Thanks
for
 any help I receive on this matter.

 Bernadette
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christine Carleton essential-liv...@telus.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 3:25 PM
 Subject: Re: CSMalaria questions


  This is not CS information, thus you may want to DELETE now.
  The following is dealing with Malaria from other perspectives.
 
   I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but after lurking
 for
   years on this list I know that those particular blanket statements are
   begging to be examined...any light to be shed?
 
  Heather,
 
  If your Mom would like to know how to 'tap-out' ANY virus, bacteria, or
  other 'mysterious' discomfort (yes even the very nasty ones - some of
 those
  which evoke fear as we hear about them on TV) then I would suggest your
  Mom take basic BodyTalk levels 1  2.
 
  Following that she would probably be best advised to take a 100 - 300
hour
  anatomy course as a foundation to detail and resource info - can be done
 by
  distance through some Universities.  There are also three preliminary
  International BodyTalk Association approved Anatomy and Physiology
college
  level courses available through correspondence. If she does not have
time,
  at least get anatomy reference books - she can e-mail back to her BT
  Instructor how to address the info. Confidence comes with past healing
  experience and experiencing results.
 
  Imagine being a missionary helping where there are limited meds -
  one's INNATE WISDOM is capable of great things.  No, this is not
biblical,
  religious or consulting spirits beyond the body.  It works without
prayer,
  although if one subscribes to prayer, I'm sure it may help.
 
  Nor is this 'hocus-pocus'.
 
  My teacher retired his 20 yr. chiropractic license (could not be dual
  certified in his province) to licence in BodyTalk which gave superior
  results to his CD and allergy elimination techniques.  An Ob/Gyn - who
  headed the Obstetrics and Gynecology department in a major US research
  hospital - found herself between a rock and a hard place when - her
 surgery
  intake numbers dropped over 10 fold after she used BT on her female
 clients.
  The reduced surgical $$'s cut into federal grants available to the
 hospital.
  It did not meet with the approval ($$$'s) of the hospital board.  She
left
 a
  highly prestigious position at the hospital and is in private BT
practice.
  I dropped all my certifications in many modalities because BT embraced
or
  moved beyond them all after I had completed taking all the modules
plus...
 
  BodyTalk does not preclude allopathic benefits.  E.g.  A CD who was just
  learning and practising for 10 minutes before doing his CD work could
not
  get 'Permissions' from a woman to do BodyTalk.  BT then directs the
  practitioner to other modalities... in this case it went 'surgeon'. She
 had
  pacemaker which was 'dying' and only by directing her husband to
   take her immediately to her heart surgeon was her life saved.
 
  A body maybe exhibiting very sick symptoms and it may have a nasty
  bacterial, viral or other yucky-ugly-nasty.  After going through the
  protocol and 'tapping out' - BT lingo - the temperature will usually
rise
 to
  'burn off' the bacterial, viral or other yucky-ugly-nasty.  Usually the
  issue has resolved itself in 24 hours.  If supremely nasty, or one has
 been
  dealing/denying it for a few days, it may take 36-48 hours to be gone.
  I have seen a girl diagnosed with MS on two continents with 3 diagnosis,
  off work for over a year on disability be down graded in a year to 'must
  have been a tick - 'we suspect Lyme's disease', to being over all of
that
 in
  almost 2 years, and is now back to teaching - full time.
 
  The greater blessing of BT is one can be in the 'out-back' so to speak,
or
  in a 'third world country' and generally does not need meds.  Also
helpful
  if one pulls a muscle or has digestive challenges in a new environment.
 
  Treatments can be done from a distance with an experienced practitioner
  if a newby's confidence or depth of understanding is not yet there - it
 will
  come with time.
 
  Also, BT works on animals and plants, crops  earth - fungus, rot, etc.
 
  BodyTalkers are helping kids with autism - brain damage - ah..gee... it
  seems to always comes up 'thimerosal' -  but that is not 'proven' in law
 in
  the realms of medicine or legal responsibility.  Nor does it matter.
 
 

Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Christine Carleton
The voltage would have to be checked, but it may not be the issue
- availability of electricity could be an issue - You know how these
things go - when you don't need it - it's always on - When one has
a turkey in the oven, or is sick and needs CS, the power goes off.
My little unit needs charging for 12 hours before initial use. Consistent
power is an issue of greater magnitude in some third world areas.

Christine

From: Lagoon lag...@eastlink.ca
Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:51:33 -0700

- Original Message -
From: Christine Carleton mailto:essential-liv...@telus.net
Subject: Re: CSMalaria questions

The CS machine is great in a first world country.
However in a third world country one must consider such thing as
1. electricity challenges - frequency of service
i don't know about trem's machines, but the silverpuppy will work on almost
any incoming voltage...
 
the worries below might also cover expensive and scarce antibiotics:
 

2. the instrument is not 'detained' at customs
3. the machine is not 'broken'
4. the machine does not 'disappear'
5. superstition
6. spoils of war...
7. other political interests
..etc...
Christine

   From: Lagoon lag...@eastlink.ca writes:
...  i would have them take a machine to make CS with them

- Original Message -
From: Heather King (LCA) mailto:heath...@microsoft.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: CS

Hi All, 

Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do anything
at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?

My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their church
and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every day to
prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but
after lurking for years on this list I know that those particular blanket
statements are begging to be examined...any light to be shed? Are there good
reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing antibiotics for daily use
for malaria prevention? Should I question her further about this?

Thanks in advance...

Heather 
Heather King 
8/2230  425.706.2986
Microsoft Information Resources
http://legalweb/sites/Records/default.aspx





CSDMSO/CS formula? tingling?

2004-05-24 Thread Minni M
Are there any reference links affiliated with this silver list where I
might find effective DMSO/CS formulas people used to heal tooth
infection?

Or is there a way for me to reach Russ Rosser (or anyone else) who can
give tips about DMSO/CS and magnetic pulsing? 

I also have a question to ask regarding why I feel tingling pain in my
teeth after viewing computer monitors for an extended period (as well as
many other negative symptoms including speeded metabolism.



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2004-05-24 Thread Minni M
Does ionized water taste like mineral water? Anyone know?

Mineral water tastes bitter to me. 
So does spring water to a certain extent. 
But well water tastes neutral  fine on my taste buds. 


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Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
I was born in Papua, New Guinea, and lived in the highlands there for my
early years.  We had to take quinine daily.  I still managed to get
malaria - didn't realize till as an adult back in the states I attempted to
give blood, and it wasn't accepted, tested positive for having had malaria.
I had had periods of cold/shakes at times through my childhood, but the case
was not severe, so it was never diagnosed.   There are strains of malaria
today that are resistant to both quinine and some of the new antimalarials.
Which may be why the doctor is talking about daily antibiotics.  But that is
certainly of concern, what it can do to your immune system, digestive
system, etc.  Joy

- Original Message - 
From: DByron laqueren...@mindspring.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:27 PM
Subject: CSMalaria questions


 Hi Heather,

 Quinine is, or at least used to be, the conventional prophylactic for
 malaria--small amounts taken orally several weeks in advance of possible
 exposure and then during one's stay.  I never heard of antibiotics being
 used as a preventative.

 Deborah


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Re: CSViricidal by vivo.

2004-05-24 Thread ALopezTCR
Looking for people's experience with IV cs...Please help as this is uncharted 
territory for me...

Donna


Re: CSViricidal by vivo.

2004-05-24 Thread missett
See if you can raise Alex Torres, M.D., and list member.  I believe he has 
extensive experience, but he's a very busy man.

  - Original Message - 
  From: alopez...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: CSViricidal by vivo.


  Looking for people's experience with IV cs...Please help as this is uncharted 
territory for me...

  Donna



CSLabeling of CS Generator

2004-05-24 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Christine,

I have a unique label I print for my Telephone Line Generator.

The front side says,   Telephone Line Tester.  It has no batteries and no 
power supply.


On the back, the label reads,  For Analog Systems Only
   Do not use with any Digital 
System


I do not know of anything taking this device thru customs.  It is in fact a 
phone line tester.


Plug in the phone line, short the alligator clips together, and the LED 
glows.  This tells you the phone line is good, or at least some voltage is 
present.


I can't imagine customs, Airport Security, or anyone else not letting it pass.

It is even built into a surface mounted telephone terminal block.

If they open it up and look inside, and they know nothing about 
electronics, the may YELL for technical assistance.  It contains one led, 
one resistor, and one full wave bridge rectifier.


The purpose of the rectifier is so that the red alligator clip will always 
be positive, no matter what the polarity of the phone line.   It would work 
without this.


However for the LED to work, the polarity must be right, and the full wave 
bridge will always provide the correct polarity, no matter what the 
polarity of the phone line.


However in a third world country one must consider such thing as



1. electricity challenges - frequency of service


  Do most cities in the third world countries have phone systems?  If 
so, what is the voltage?




2. the instrument is not 'detained' at customs


 I would like to see if that happens.



Re: CSViricidal by vivo.

2004-05-24 Thread ALopezTCR
Oh, could Dr. Alex Torres back channel email me?

I live in Tx.

Donna


Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

List,

As I posted recently, the WHO is now moving rapidly toward the use of 
Chinese wormwood as the primary means of malaria treatment.  I do not 
know if it is also prophylactic, but it is said to be superior to all 
other treatments.  I urge a Google check,  as wormwood seems to be the 
latest and greatest.   BTW,  I would be willing to bet that the money 
Bill Gates has pumped into the malaria field has brought this remedy to 
the forefront;  as a non-patent herbal medicine, it may have been 
suppressed by the pharmaceutical powers;  it may have taken big bucks 
to bring a wave of change.


If anyone knows about this field,  I think there is probably much room 
to educate list members about the way the world really works. I 
know very little myself, though I have taken malaria prophylaxis in the 
past.



JBB



On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, at 04:27 Asia/Tokyo, DByron wrote:


Hi Heather,

Quinine is, or at least used to be, the conventional prophylactic for
malaria--small amounts taken orally several weeks in advance of 
possible
exposure and then during one's stay.  I never heard of antibiotics 
being

used as a preventative.

Deborah


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CSleaching plastics

2004-05-24 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Bob Berger did some tests of plastic containers using
his spectrophotometer. The old-timers will remember
him as a former member of this list. He stored
pre-tested CS in various types of plastics for various
periods of time, then tested the CS again to see if
there was anything 'extra' in the CS. He found
absolutely no addition or increase in ppm using the
PET and PETE type plastics, such as are used in juice
and soda bottles (the colored or clear, hard plastic
bottles). He found the bottles that hydrogen peroxide
and rubbing alcohol come in to be ok, also. He found
the cloudy colored plastic such as milk comes in to be
very 'leaky'. His report is in the archives somewhere,
back a few years, if someone wanted to search for it.

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CSTestimonial for curing Rheumatoid Arthritis with Colloidal Silver

2004-05-24 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi,

I was asked to write Zeruiah and ask how she made her CS and how she knew
the PPM.  Here are her answers:

Jean Baugh



We have an electric and battery operated generator. We only use . fine
silver rods and distilled water. We find that adding salt does not allow
your PPM to be as high... and it takes longer to make. We make it a quart at
a time. The only test we do for the PPM is the 'eye' test. If you have ever
seen Coors Beer in the sunlight... then this is about what 200 ppm looks
like the darker you get (dark amber... no browns or oranges or blacks)
the higher the PPM.  I have probably made over 500 gallons in the past 4
years and my husband has drank most of it !  LOL
We give it to the kids, the goats, ALL the animals  we have not been to
the doctors but on RARE occasions where we needed procedures done GOD
truly has blessed us ~~~  
 
Zer~
- Original Message -
 
 Hi Zeruiah,
 
 How do you make your Colloidal Silver?
 
 How do you test it to know the ppm?
 
 I am so happy for you and your husband.  No doubt about what did it and you
 have your life back!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jean
 
 **
 



Re: CSLabeling of CS Generator

2004-05-24 Thread Christine Carleton
Wayne,

Sounds like you have a very good system.  In fact, excellent.  Personally, I
would go with it.

The problem arises if you are 'counting on' something. This is the voice of
travel experience talking. If your prepared to loose your 'stuff', your
prepared.  

What is 'cheap' to us, is often very valuable in other countries, or there
is a black market which supplements poor governmental job incomes.

I've had books taken from me by customs that had 'God' written in the text
yet were not by any means religious books - and a 3 hour interrogation which
detained the whole tour group. I've been 'detained' in military barracks
under armed guard in Moscow.  Because of a typhoon  aircraft re-routing
landed us in other country.  We were 'secured' under guard along with
detailed inspections because none of us had the required visas for the
country adjacent to our destination which had 'military police action'
occurring in it. People with extra things, lost things. The ground rules
change as to priorities when you have a tear gas canister flying by your
head.  Depending on where you are, rape is also viewed differently - even
for older 70 year + women.

The issue is power ($), not proprietary rights.

If it is not really plain and simple, it might find a new home even before
you get to your destination depending on how many 'connections' you make.

If it all gets there, and you get to keep it, it's a bonus.  Travel light.
But most of all, ENJOY, because travel is great and usually goes fine.
Sparks of excitement keep you on your toes, keep your wits about you and is
fodder for amazing stories to tell when you get home.

Christine


From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:46:57 -0500
Subject: CSLabeling of CS Generator

Evening Christine,

I have a unique label I print for my Telephone Line Generator.
The front side says,   Telephone Line Tester. It has no batteries and no
power supply.
On the back, the label reads,  For Analog Systems Only
 Do not use with any Digital
System
I do not know of anything taking this device thru customs.  It is in fact a
phone line tester.
Plug in the phone line, short the alligator clips together, and the LED
glows.  This tells you the phone line is good, or at least some voltage is
present.
I can't imagine customs, Airport Security, or anyone else not letting it
pass.
It is even built into a surface mounted telephone terminal block.
If they open it up and look inside, and they know nothing about electronics,
the may YELL for technical assistance.  It contains one led, one resistor,
and one full wave bridge rectifier.
The purpose of the rectifier is so that the red alligator clip will always
be positive, no matter what the polarity of the phone line.   It would work
without this.
However for the LED to work, the polarity must be right, and the full wave
bridge will always provide the correct polarity, no matter what the polarity
of the phone line.

However in a third world country one must consider such thing as

1. electricity challenges - frequency of service

 Do most cities  in the third world countries have phone systems?

YES - sometimes they are disconnected for 'strange' reasons - that's when
you bolt the doors into the cement floor, into the reinforced door frame
above the door and on the side, and lock down the window shutters.  When
mini tanks are scurrying about, phone and electrical lines are not a
priority.  AND a lot missionary work is done out of the cities in the
country which has a reduced standard of regularity.

If so, what is the voltage?

Wayne, I don't know - I got tired of adapters, some fitting, some not, and
got smart and just bought what I need new in each country.


2. the instrument is not 'detained' at customs

I would like to see if that happens.

It would be interesting, however it they decide to 'forward it to you later'
after they have 'inspected it', usually it's an euphemism and often you can
wait forever. . . . . . . . . . . .

You have to be careful not to 'piss people off' - sometimes the colour of
your skin is enough to annoy someone, or your accent, or you look like the
'wife' who gave him the 'chill' that morning ... I don't know why - but it
happens.  I don't play with officials in any country and if they 'eye
something' they can have it.  It makes my easier in the long run.

If your prepared to loose your 'stuff', your prepared.
 
 ~~~



Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-24 Thread Christine Carleton
http://www.mercola.com/2003/jul/30/malaria_drugs.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2000/may/7/magnet_malaria.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/nov/28/garlic.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/dec/26/vaccinations.htm

Check out everything on www.mercola.com
Just put in malaria, and a world of information will come up.

Christine

 Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do
 anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?
 My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their
 church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every
 day to prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like
 that, but after lurking for years on this list I know that those
 particular blanket statements are begging to be examined...any light to
 be shed? Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing
 antibiotics for daily use for malaria prevention? Should I question her
 further about this?
 
 Thanks in advance...
 Heather


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Re: CSMalaria questions;COMMENT

2004-05-24 Thread Brooks Bradley
 Dear Heather,
 Some years back we made an extensive investigation into Malaria-control 
and relapse addressthe most effective by FAR ( for relapsing episodes), was 
the one outlined by this article.  Although dated (circa 1913), this protocol 
yielded splendid effects for relapsing malaria insultsand no other single 
treatment even approached such positive results.
 I would earnestly encourage you to consider passing this information on to 
your parentsbefore they depart for Africa.
 The url for the article is Http://www.navi.net~lamballa.htm   
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. 
Harborne
Research Foundation

- Original Message -

DATE: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:20:38
From: Heather King \(LCA\) heath...@microsoft.com
To: silver-list@ESKIMO.COM, silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Cc: 

Hi All,

Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do
anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria?
My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their
church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every
day to prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like
that, but after lurking for years on this list I know that those
particular blanket statements are begging to be examined...any light to
be shed? Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing
antibiotics for daily use for malaria prevention? Should I question her
further about this?  

Thanks in advance...
Heather



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CSUrl correction to Malaria Post

2004-05-24 Thread Brooks Bradley
   My apologies, the url I submitted has been deleted from use.  try 
Http://www.navi.net/~rsc/lamballa.htm
  Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
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