Re: CS>Trigeminal Neuralgia

[nancymike]

Hi Terry,
I have been wondering about this also.  I did read up about it, and this is
also an auto immune disease.  I have not been able to convince a friend wh
has it to try
CS.  I really believe it should help..
Nancy
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Subject: CS>Trigeminal Neuralgia


> I am looking for information on resolving this problem
> (Trigeminal Neuralgia) using natural means. Any ideas
> or info would be appreciated. Contact me off-list if
> you'd like (unless you think CS can be used to help).
>
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Re: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[nancymike]

It breaks up the large particles of CS and makes them small enough to get
into the blood stream.  Alzheimer's is an auto immune disease.  CS will
suffocate the mycoplasma the causes the Alzheier's.
Nancy
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Subject: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver


> Hi,
>
> I was told it is not a good idea to add hydrogen peroxide to the steam
> distilled water before making the Colloidal Silver because it causes the
> resulting product to be 100% ionic as opposed to 85% ionic without the
> hydrogen peroxide.
>
> Reportedly it won't affect the ionic ratio if the hydrogen peroxide is
added
> after the making of the Colloidal Silver.
>
> However, unless there is a good reason to add hydrogen peroxide to the
water
> after making the CS (is there any proof of efficacy), it might not be a
good
> thing to do.  I just read where hydrogen peroxide might be implicated in
> Alzheimer's along with other minerals (zinc and copper).
>
> Jean Baugh
>
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Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

  Could alzheimers be the new name for senility or 'second childhood'?
If so, I bet that people still got it when pure aluminum was rarer than
gold...if they lived that long that is. [I guess not many did]
 Aluminum oxidizes after a while. Aluminum oxide is pretty inert stuff use
to make sandpaper grit.
 I dunno.  I use stainless steel pots just in case, but I drink soda pop
out of cans and I still have my still have my my brains at atttached.
 If aluminum alone does it, the baby boomers will soon forget it did.  We
used aluminum pots for everything all our lives till recently.
Ode

At 07:36 AM 7/23/2004 +1000, you wrote:
>At 10:10 PM 22/07/04, Ode wrote:
>>   This does not mean that the copper or silver 'caused' the damage but 
>> that damaged brain tissue has an affinity for the metals, which is why 
>> it's used for the staining procedure.
>>
>>High concentrations of aluminum have been found in the brains of 
>>Alzheimers victims. Aluminum is the 3rd most common element on the 
>>planet.  What does that mean??
>
>Ode, I like your stuff when you think real-world and outside the box!  :-)
>It is s easy for us to jump to confusions.
>Suddenly you even have me rethinking about Aluminium/Aluminum.  With lotsa 
>things it is the final form (processed?) that counts though, isn't it?
>Even Silver.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Himagain
>  
>
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CS>Trigeminal Neuralgia

[Terry Chamberlin]

I am looking for information on resolving this problem
(Trigeminal Neuralgia) using natural means. Any ideas
or info would be appreciated. Contact me off-list if
you'd like (unless you think CS can be used to help).

Terry Chamberlin

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Re: CS>re: mold

[sol]

Now, I've been through an old cemetary or two, and with women, what I 
see is that many men died of good old age, having gone through several 
wives, all of whom died young, mostly in childbirth.

sol

john rigby wrote:


At 11:09 PM 22/07/04, Ode wrote:


 How about the myth that we were once healthier than we are now?


Treat yourself to a trip to an old cemetery and ignoring horse 
tramplings, wars and the odd plague, look at the ages at death. 
Particularly wimmin







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Re: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[john rigby]

At 02:39 AM 23/07/04, Marshall wrote:

10 ppm CS would still
meet the EPA requirements for drinking water if I remember right.



Ahhh, Marshall, that lot is not really a good recommendation, friend!  :-)

Himagain



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Re: CS>re: mold

[john rigby]

At 11:09 PM 22/07/04, Ode wrote:

 How about the myth that we were once healthier than we are now?


Now this is *really* O.T.:-)

You've been conned Ode.  Actuarial statistics are wonderful things and 
always deadly accurate. Why? Because they only relate to making money.
The life expectancy of a person born since the early 70's is now so low 
that the Insurance industry has stopped bothering about life extension 
support policies completely.  ( The chances of those superannuation payouts 
being a liability after 60 are zilch now!)


Treat yourself to a trip to an old cemetery and ignoring horse tramplings, 
wars and the odd plague, look at the ages at death. Particularly 
wimmin


Anyone out there older than say 50 now - do you remember all those "old" 
people dying  at 50?
Where I grew up I can remember people saying about one of our neighbours, 
"poor Bruce and so young." He was about 60, a big gross man and a real 
boozer, but after all, he was only 60.


Cheers,
Himagain.




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Re: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[john rigby]

At 12:26 AM 23/07/04, you wrote:

Your question leads to another good reason to use
bullion coins instead of wire. Coins are marked with
their silver content, of course, but their non-silver content
is assayed too.


Hear, hear!   I use Canadian $5 Maples. . for 2 reasons:  1. anything 
purer is better EVEN at that level but, 2. You know it's real.  Most 
important.


Himagain's $5 worth.  



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Re: CS>Mozilla O.T.

[john rigby]

At 11:44 PM 22/07/04, you wrote:

I tried to use Eudora several times over the years but just didn't like 
many of the


The secret of Microsoft's success!
We all dislike change, but we really hate changing a habit pattern.  My big 
confession is that I STILL use FrontPage designing client Sites. My tech 
people yell at me alla time for not switching to Dreamweaver - a much 
superior product AND safer.  But it is s different


The only thing is that today, those MS products are so dangerous 
 they are all like sieves and some days Eudora+AVG  pick up 4-5 
trojans in the mailstream - usually from "trusted" sources.
As for using that Browser!  It's like posting notes about going on holidays 
for a month on the sexy chat boards


Cheers,
Him



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Re: CS>Web Elements . com

[john rigby]

At 08:59 PM 22/07/04, Ode wrote:


My guess is silver content in the human body  is going to depend on where
that body lives and gets its food from.  Silver isn't quite as common as ,
say, iron.


YAhh!  This, if you pardon the pun, is in the same vein as the accepted 
medical norms. The last person qualified to talk about "good" norms is a 
Doctor.  He simply never even sees a healthy person.


I would like to research life activities/body functions in the older world, 
but I still have a photo sent by a friend his daughter took on a trip to 
Kathmandu - standing in front of a Coca-Cola sign.  sigh.


Cheers,
Himagain


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Re: CS>

[john rigby]

At 10:10 PM 22/07/04, Ode wrote:
  This does not mean that the copper or silver 'caused' the damage but 
that damaged brain tissue has an affinity for the metals, which is why 
it's used for the staining procedure.


High concentrations of aluminum have been found in the brains of 
Alzheimers victims. Aluminum is the 3rd most common element on the 
planet.  What does that mean??


Ode, I like your stuff when you think real-world and outside the box!  :-)
It is s easy for us to jump to confusions.
Suddenly you even have me rethinking about Aluminium/Aluminum.  With lotsa 
things it is the final form (processed?) that counts though, isn't it?

Even Silver.

Cheers,

Himagain
 



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Re: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[Marshall Dudley]

Most likely copper and gold, some possible zinc.  But the amount is so
trivial that even if it were mercury or arsenic, 10 ppm CS would still
meet the EPA requirements for drinking water if I remember right.

Marshall

David wrote:

> I was just curious, that if you use .999 or .
> silver wire, and since it is not 100% pure silver,
> what other metals are you getting in your water
> besides silver? Would that be zinc or copper too?
>
> David
>
> --- "oldgl...@bigcountry.net"
>  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was told it is not a good idea to add hydrogen
> > peroxide to the steam
> > distilled water before making the Colloidal Silver
> > because it causes the
> > resulting product to be 100% ionic as opposed to 85%
> > ionic without the
> > hydrogen peroxide.
> >
> > Reportedly it won't affect the ionic ratio if the
> > hydrogen peroxide is added
> > after the making of the Colloidal Silver.
> >
> > However, unless there is a good reason to add
> > hydrogen peroxide to the water
> > after making the CS (is there any proof of
> > efficacy), it might not be a good
> > thing to do.  I just read where hydrogen peroxide
> > might be implicated in
> > Alzheimer's along with other minerals (zinc and
> > copper).
> >
> > Jean Baugh
> >
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Re: CS>

[sol]

I have a response/question but will post it on the OT list.
sol

Terry Chamberlin wrote:


"When Pasteur demonstrated in the late 1800s that
bacteria caused disease, it took a long while for the
public to get a clear idea of what bacteria were and
how they did what they did...“

 






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Re: CS>re: mold (ringworm)

[sol]

I would guess that now, you would use a mix of EIS/DMSO to treat 
ringworm? Don't know if that would clear it in one day, as reported for 
the salty ice cube, but I have read many reports of it clearing up 
ringworm in about 3 days. Don't know if it returns  though. If I had an 
animal with ringworm the EIS/DMSO would be my treatment of choice, as it 
is difficult to imagine a cat standing still for the ice-cube treatment.

sol

Garnet wrote:


Seems teenagers get Tinea versicolor and can struggle with it for some
time. The ice cube and salt trick sounds a bit tricky but nice to know
of a non-chemical cure. 


When she would get it as a young child, from the barn no doubt, we used
liquid Tinactin and if we stayed with it could clear it up in about 2
weeks with once a day applications.

Garnet

 






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RE: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[Ode Coyote]

  Having made CS that read low in uS and had high TE..but had virtually no
flavor, then making high uS and low TE with strong flavor..
 I think its ions we taste even if they're not 'free' ions.

 No, strong taste is not bad.  Nor is no or little taste.  It's more like a
sensual indicator that can work with the eyeball one to calibrate the
intuition.
 With all the doseing nonsense that's out there posing as knowledge,
intuition is what we wind up using anyhow whether we think we are or not.
ode

At 02:03 PM 7/22/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>Ode,
>Is it a bad thing if the water tastes very metallic?  I ask because, the
>last batch I made I had going for about 45 mins and I had *no* tindal effect
>so I chugged it away until I saw a slight effect about half an our later.
>The water was very clear and by the faraday calculator I reckon it was about
>20PPM (probably less due to some build up on the electrodes), but it tasted
>very metallic.  It seemed to work very well though.
>
>
>Dave.
>
>
>
>>>
> Eventually [like many many months], with plenty of sunlight, [That batch
>sat on a South facing window sill for over a year] the metal flakes turned
>into black balls of silver oxide, the formerly clear water went very yellow
>and tasted very strongly metallic.
> I seem to remember a meter reading shooting up from 13 to around 45 uS on
>that batch but I don't have it anymore to check again.
><<
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Re: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[Ode Coyote]

At 03:35 PM 7/21/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Jean,
>
>You misread or misunderstood my earlier reply to you.  I said do not add
H202 to the
>water before making CS.  I didn't say it would make it 100% ionic.  That
occurs AFTER
>you make the CS and THEN add the H202.  

It then increases the ionic. content and
>reduces the colloidal portion.

 ##  I'm not sure what peroxide does to ionic content. It does seem to make
the particles smaller, therefore more numerous, increasing TE and reducing
'graininess' in the laser beam. But some people say it does the
opposite...reducing TE.  It seems to both make and break oxides...make and
break particles.
 I dunno, it's just weird stuff.
 Perhaps that has to do with when and what sort of energy is being applied
to what form of silver.


>
>As Ken (Ode) says, you'll make beautiful silver looking snowflakes in the
CS.  Right
>Ken?
##  That's what it did for me, but I only did it once.  I should try it a
few more times to see if it's always the same.
 It could be that when using peroxide, nothing's ever the same. [ ;-) and LOL]
>Ode


>Best regards,
>
>Trem
>
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>From: 
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>Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 2:31 PM
>Subject: [silver_list] CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was told it is not a good idea to add hydrogen peroxide to the steam
>> distilled water before making the Colloidal Silver because it causes the
>> resulting product to be 100% ionic as opposed to 85% ionic without the
>> hydrogen peroxide.
>>
>> Reportedly it won't affect the ionic ratio if the hydrogen peroxide is
added
>> after the making of the Colloidal Silver.
>>
>> However, unless there is a good reason to add hydrogen peroxide to the
water
>> after making the CS (is there any proof of efficacy), it might not be a
good
>> thing to do.  I just read where hydrogen peroxide might be implicated in
>> Alzheimer's along with other minerals (zinc and copper).
>>
>> Jean Baugh
>>
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Re: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[Ode Coyote]

  Mostly copper and some gold...perhaps a wee touch of lead or bismuth now
and then, all in amounts far less than you'd injest with every lungful of
air or mouthful of food.

Ode

At 03:09 PM 7/21/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>I was just curious, that if you use .999 or .
>silver wire, and since it is not 100% pure silver,
>what other metals are you getting in your water
>besides silver? Would that be zinc or copper too?  
>
>David
>
>
>
>--- "oldgl...@bigcountry.net"
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was told it is not a good idea to add hydrogen
>> peroxide to the steam
>> distilled water before making the Colloidal Silver
>> because it causes the
>> resulting product to be 100% ionic as opposed to 85%
>> ionic without the
>> hydrogen peroxide.
>> 
>> Reportedly it won't affect the ionic ratio if the
>> hydrogen peroxide is added
>> after the making of the Colloidal Silver.
>> 
>> However, unless there is a good reason to add
>> hydrogen peroxide to the water
>> after making the CS (is there any proof of
>> efficacy), it might not be a good
>> thing to do.  I just read where hydrogen peroxide
>> might be implicated in
>> Alzheimer's along with other minerals (zinc and
>> copper).
>> 
>> Jean Baugh
>> 
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Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

  Yup, results vary.

While experimenting around running at 4 ma, I made a very strong batch quart with very strong TE that went tea colored at 36 uS  I dropped a 1/2" long piece of #12 copper wire in the bottom. 
It did get a thick coating of black crud at first and the color in the water cleared.
After many days, the crud both fell off revealing shiny copper and kept getting thicker on the bottom till there is now absolutely no TE. [Apparently the copper pulled much of the silver out and dropped it onto the bottom starting with the big stuff..sparklies, then TE and progressing to the small stuff]
Then for grins and giggles, I added a touch of peroxide.   I see no signs of the copper. [I think I removed it when I added the peroxide and set it on the lid to dry and it got lost somewhere. Other times I did that and let the black encrusted copper dry, it had a nice silver plating on it that wasn't there before it dried. Back crud when wet, silver dust when dry.]


Now..after 3 months.. the jar has a frothy mix of bright silver bubbles and frothy black bubbles in seperate clusters on the bottom and a nice silver slick on the surface. Conductivity  is now around 10 uS.
What the source of that conductivity is, I have no clue at all.  There might not be even a trace of silver in that water. There's an awful lot of it everywhere else in all sorts of forms.

This doesn't qualify as an "experiment"  but does illustrate how weird little things can be.

A while back I got all excited about using a copper coil with a silver hoop electrode in the center slightly above the coil.
It appeared to make a massive shower of white particles which were attracted towards the coil but couldn't quite make it there due to the pull of gravity and force of inertia.  I thought I had invented electrogravitic stirring..and probably did.  I went so far as to call it the "ring monster".
But, it only worked once per set of electrodes and sometimes not even then. The copper would get plated with silver and behave differently than either copper OR silver.
After that, all I got  was massive black fluffy deposits on the coil and not  whole lot of anything else.
Interesting, but way too 'iffy' to be practical.

The point here is, if you use copper in the process, there's no telling what you'll wind up with when.  It doesn't have to even have an active "charged" part to play a role. It's almost like having a shape shifter with a mind of it's own running around.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't silver a catalyst in many many reactions?  What happens when you drop anything into a vat of catalysts?  Anything that 'can' happen, will..in turn?
Then add an energetic quality to the mix...
Hoo BOY! Where am I now?

Way too many roads on that map...all leading to the town of Spaghetti with no 'neat' sauce.

I'm sticking with silver and distilled as a rule.
Anything else appears to be MADE out of exceptions unless you massively overwhelm the odds in a given direction.

Making CS with baking soda, then using vinegar to get silver acetate looks interesting.
Perhaps skipping the baking soda step?

Silver pickles!??
Sweet kraut?

Solid dressing?

LOL

Ode [Just plain lost in the ozone, then ..misplaced the ozone]


At 09:16 AM 7/22/2004 +1000, you wrote: 

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Paul and nasal fungus



Copper does strange things to CS.

Drop a small piece of shiney copper into a batch and let it sit for a week or two..you'll see.
It pulls about everything out of the water and drops it on the bottom...
***copper still shiney*** or sometimes turns silvery.

Ode
~


>>>Hello Ode, and forum,
That's strange -- I get quite different results.


>>>I place a coiled piece of solid copper wire (about nine inches long) in the bottom of a one-quart glass jug, fill jug with distilled water.  While making the CS, ***the copper wire becomes coated with jet-black deposit*** (most of it concentrated closest to positive silver plate, much less so under the negative).  When I scrub the wire clean, I get black smears on my fingers which are quite difficult to wash off the fingers.  If I replace the clean copper wire in the jug of finished CS and leave it there for 24 to 48 hours, *the wire collects more black deposit ... no droppings of any sort on the bottom of the jug*.


>>>While making CS, the negative plate gets coated with near-black deposit, BUT the deposit has ***a red tinge*** ... any explanations for that, folks?  No "sparklies" visible with red laser light beam.


>>>I am using four 9-volt batteries connected in series.  I use two .999 fine silver plates which are about 3/4 inches wide, about 3 and a 1/2 inches length submerged.  The plates are about 3/16 of an inch thick (two milimitres).


>>>I have the plates about one and a half inches apart, and the electric current is on for about 20 to 25 minutes. 

Re: CS>re: mold

[Ode Coyote]

 How about the myth that we were once healthier than we are now?
 Could it be that the cancer rate was lower because most people died of
something else at an earlier age..like cholera, dysentary, tuberculosis,
small pox, yellow fever, pneumonia..even silicosis and black lung?
 How does the per capita age distribution of cancer rates today compare to
those of yesteryear [early 1800s] when average life expectancy was
something like 40 or so and people got married and had babies at 15?

 How does that compare to an average life expectancy today of around 78 yrs
old.  How many really old people die of cancer now as compared to people at
40 years old?

 Think on this.
 If a person reaches maturity at around 20 yers old and the body replaces
every cell every 7 years, a 40 year old body would only have to clone
itself, by cell division cell by cell from existing mature cells, 3 times
while an 80 yr old would have done it almost 9 times [not 6]. Each cloning
would stand higher odds of DNA replication errors which pass on to the next
cloning that has it's odds of error as well.
 Granted, throw in a few chemicals and the odds go up, but wood smoke in a
cabin or teepee contains many chemicals and viri use DNA in their live
cycles...damaging but not killing some cells.

Ode



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CS>CS/DMSO in a nebulizer

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi,

Just wanted to report my Mother used the nebulizer last night for the first
time, loaded with 90% Colloidal Silver and 10% DMSO.  She coughed on the
first two tries but didn't cough on the following 4 tries.  I told her that
was not unexpected and not to worry about the coughing.

When I got back home, called to see how it was going and my sister said
Mother used the nebulizer perhaps a dozen times and coughed every time.  I
was surprised to hear this and asked how bad was the coughing?

Turns out Mom misunderstood me and thought she was 'supposed' to cough every
time she used the nebulizer!  :)

Jean Baugh


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CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[Matthew McCann PE]

> I was just curious, that if you use .999 or .
> silver wire, and since it is not 100% pure silver,
> what other metals are you getting in your water
> besides silver? Would that be zinc or copper too? 

Hello, David,

Your question leads to another good reason to use
bullion coins instead of wire. Coins are marked with
their silver content, of course, but their non-silver content 
is assayed too.
According to Littleton Coin Company, the Silver
American Eagle bullion coin is 0.9993 silver and
0.0007 copper.
Other details about the Eagle: diameter = 40.6 mm
and mass = 31.101 grams.

Best regards,

Matthew










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CS>Mozilla

[Trem]

Hi John,

I tried to use Eudora several times over the years but just didn't like many of 
the
features.  Can't remember why but I would uninstall it every time after a few 
weeks.

Thanks for the advice.

Best regards,

Trem

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:16 AM
Subject: [trem] Re: CS>Mozilla


> At 03:04 AM 20/07/04, Terry wrote:
> >Guess I'll just continue to keep my anti virus software up to date and hope 
> >no
> >viruses get through.  Outlook Express works well but is just vulnerable to
> >the NERDS.
>
> No! No!  At least go get EudoraPro!!   :-)
> Especially if you have lots of boxes!
>
> Cheers,
> Himagain
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RE: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[Dave Lewis]

Ode,
Is it a bad thing if the water tastes very metallic?  I ask because, the
last batch I made I had going for about 45 mins and I had *no* tindal effect
so I chugged it away until I saw a slight effect about half an our later.
The water was very clear and by the faraday calculator I reckon it was about
20PPM (probably less due to some build up on the electrodes), but it tasted
very metallic.  It seemed to work very well though.


Dave.



>>
 Eventually [like many many months], with plenty of sunlight, [That batch
sat on a South facing window sill for over a year] the metal flakes turned
into black balls of silver oxide, the formerly clear water went very yellow
and tasted very strongly metallic.
 I seem to remember a meter reading shooting up from 13 to around 45 uS on
that batch but I don't have it anymore to check again.
<<



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CS>Re:CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[William Amos]

How much woild you suggest adding to a pint of CS ?

Bill Amos
--
Hi Trem,

I went back to see what you said and to see why I mistook your words.  I see 
now what you meant but in my hurry (too many chores here), it flew over my head.

Thank you for correcting me.  :)

Jean Baugh



Hi Jean,

Do NOT add peroxide BEFORE making CS.  If you want to add it afterwards that 
will be OK.  It will cause the 15% colloidal portion to become ionic.  So, 
instead of being 85% ionic it will be 100% ionic.
 
Trem Williams
customer_serv...@silvergen.com
www.silvergen.com


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Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

  There is a cupro silver staining method used to 'find and highlight' damaged nerve tissues while studying them under a microscope.  [Google "brain+silver"]
High concentrations of these metals have been found in the brains of cadavers who had brain damage.[EPA study?]

This does not mean that the copper or silver 'caused' the damage but that damaged brain tissue has an affinity for the metals, which is why it's used for the staining procedure.

High concentrations of aluminum have been found in the brains of Alzheimers victims. Aluminum is the 3rd most common element on the planet.  What does that mean??

Does the accumulation of various metals cause Alzheimers or does tissue damage from Alzheimers cause the accumulation of various metals?
Colloial copper, zinc and silver all have anti microbial properties. [Don't know about aluminum]  Silver is safer because it doesn't have it's own chemical biological niche.   Is that accumulation an attempt by the body to repair itself or the cause of the damage..or just a byproduct of the damage?

Free radicals are supposed to damage tissues. [Certainly bacterium tissues along with all other tissues]  H2O2 and ozone are free radicals? Harmful?  [Not sure..The harmful and beneficial roles that free radicals play are not a simple subject by any stretch of the imagination.]
Ozone can me made by exposing oxygen to UV radiation...High in Australia where that ozone hole is..allowing UV to penetrate to the surface air?

Ionic silver and maybe oxides of silver 'probably' neutralizes ozone and peroxide. Particulate metallic silver probably doesn't

Ode

At 07:54 PM 7/21/2004 +1000, you wrote: 

List,
This may be OT but this subject was aired on Aussie TV tonight, concerning  the accumulation of zinc and copper in the body. This coupled with Hydrogen Peroxide caused brain damage, resulting in Alzheimer's Disease.
I recall a lot of posts regarding combining H2o2 with CS and even ingesting colloidal copper.
  
Question is, will this be harmful to the human body and cause Alzheimer's?
Comments, or maybe point me to the newsgroup that may be more appropriate for this subject.
John in Australia

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Re: CS>Hydrogen peroxide and Colloidal Silver

[Ode Coyote]

 MY "experience" from having done this is that adding the peroxide to the
water before making CS results in a maximum of around 13 PPM ionic [13 uS
on a PWT meter] and everything after that HUGE shiney silver metal
flakes big and pretty enough to use in a snow scene paperweight.

 Eventually [like many many months], with plenty of sunlight, [That batch
sat on a South facing window sill for over a year] the metal flakes turned
into black balls of silver oxide, the formerly clear water went very yellow
and tasted very strongly metallic.
 I seem to remember a meter reading shooting up from 13 to around 45 uS on
that batch but I don't have it anymore to check again.

It's not something I plan to do again.

Ode


At 04:31 PM 7/21/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I was told it is not a good idea to add hydrogen peroxide to the steam
>distilled water before making the Colloidal Silver because it causes the
>resulting product to be 100% ionic as opposed to 85% ionic without the
>hydrogen peroxide.
>
>Reportedly it won't affect the ionic ratio if the hydrogen peroxide is added
>after the making of the Colloidal Silver.
>
>However, unless there is a good reason to add hydrogen peroxide to the water
>after making the CS (is there any proof of efficacy), it might not be a good
>thing to do.  I just read where hydrogen peroxide might be implicated in
>Alzheimer's along with other minerals (zinc and copper).
>
>Jean Baugh
>
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Re: CS>Web Elements . com

[Ode Coyote]

My guess is silver content in the human body  is going to depend on where
that body lives and gets its food from.  Silver isn't quite as common as ,
say, iron.  If you grow a garden in Comstock Nevada mine tailings, you're
more likely to get some silver than if you grow one in central Florida sand
or muck dirt.

Ode



 For instance the above website states
>that the human body has no silver and Elmsley's guide says does, and
>give distribution in various organs and tissues.
>
>Garnet
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Re: CS>Acidity/Alkalinity

[Ode Coyote]

  It's not hard to make silver acetate with vineger and get the double
whammy perhaps.

Ode

At 02:32 PM 7/20/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>If you do a Google search you will find many pages on how to alkalinize
>through your diet. Apple Cider Vinegar is alkalinizing, a couple
>tablespoons a day is an old time remedy for general health. 
>
>I buy Braggs Organic ACV. It is very nice tasting. Also I like the
>French ACV that I buy a Whole Foods, a very mild and good tasting
>vinegar. A tablespoon of Vinegar and honey in a glass of ice water makes
>a refreshing drink.
>
>Garnet
>
>
>
>On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 12:28, marmar...@aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 7/19/04 9:58:47 AM EST, tcj...@yahoo.ca writes:
>> 
>> << Since I started Metabolic
>>  Biochemical testing in 1984, I’ve noticed that most
>>  folks over the age of 40 are acidic, and that acid pH
>>  is happening at a younger and younger age. >>
>> 
>> OK -- so how does one become more alkaline?  And why do I suspect that you 
>> are going to tell me that I have to eat okra and lima beans?  (yuck)
  MA
>> 
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Re: CS>

[john rigby]

At 07:54 PM 21/07/04, you wrote:
 Following this research, Bush and his team *believe the drug 
Cliocwinol*, or a variant, is the key. The drug was used in the 1970s to 
treat diarrhoea and skin irritations.



Constant reality hint:   Is there a miracle drug in the offing to  fix 
whatever-it-is that "Scientists/researchers" have found??

See prior post on how to become alkaline..

Cheers,

Himagain





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Re: CS>Acidity/Alkalinity

[john rigby]

At 05:32 AM 21/07/04, Garnet wrote:

how to alkalinize
through your diet. Apple Cider Vinegar is alkalinizing, a couple
tablespoons a day is an old time remedy for general health.


Hi folks,
BUT .. The key to the whole thing is that there is no "one" magic pill 
- not even CS!!

You have to change your WHOLE deadly diet to get well.
That simply means giving up chocolate, coffee, booze, ice cream and meat in 
order to not be plagued by:

premature senility
Sinusitus
dull children
difficult pregnancy
psoriasis
halitosis
Eczema
carpal tunnel syndrome
no pregnancy
allergies
cancer
athletes foot
diabetes 1-4
allergies
etc., etc.,

Himagain




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Re: CS>Mozilla

[john rigby]

At 12:39 AM 21/07/04, you wrote:

But is it Windows compatible?  That is, can you run Windows programs on it, or
does it take programs written especially for it?


Hi folks,
No.  Lindows is a " commercial distribution"  of Linux - the operating 
system that really runs the Internet.  In fact, if we could get rid of the 
very few Microsoft  Servers out there, most of our troubles would go away.


It is the opposite of Windows:
It is safe, stable, designed for serious work.
There are auxiliary programs that allow "inescapable"  Windows based 
programs to run, but tend to have quirks.
BUT because it is from free to cheap and will run on almost anything ( 
except an Apple, of course)  you can load Linux on that old slow, low 
memory box you have in the garage that you couldn't just throw away 
and network it to your Windows  machine and have both worlds!   You use the 
Linux box to do the real stuff and Internet connections.


Cheers,

Himagain


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Re: CS>homeopathy from pieces of paper, was Re: CS>What CSinformation is the truth?

[john rigby]

At 03:46 AM 20/07/04, Marshall  wrote:

More Messages In Water The Spirit Of Ma´at Interviews Dr. Masaru Emoto
  By Reiko Myamoto Dewey 7-4-4


DEFINITELY an Off-Topic Topic!   :-)

See : O.T.  subject :  Even H20 is weird!


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Re: CS>Mozilla

[john rigby]

At 03:04 AM 20/07/04, Terry wrote:

Guess I'll just continue to keep my anti virus software up to date and hope no
viruses get through.  Outlook Express works well but is just vulnerable to 
the NERDS.


No! No!  At least go get EudoraPro!!   :-)
Especially if you have lots of boxes!

Cheers,
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Re: CS>

[john rigby]

At 12:55 AM 20/07/04, Terry wrote:

The first steps in maintaining health is to alkalize
the body (pH or acid/alkaline balance). This is one of


This is an interesting  Site that Terry referred to:.
http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/Newsletters/03_Sep.htm#Lost

Some areas of it need to be taken with a grain of salt or two - but 
who/what doesn't?  :-)
What was surprising was the extraordinary claim that Mercury fillings could 
be quite safe - "if not made by Dentists"???
However, it is written in a folksy, simple way and will be a "go read" from 
me to newbies I meet.

With a few caveats:
95% of it is actually secondhand - despite contrary claims on the Site. 
There are glaring errors and omissions, but it IS a good start to FURTHER 
RESEARCH & DISCUSSION.


I have a question or 2 on the OFF TOPIC List..  "EAT WHAT?"

Cheers,

Himagain


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