RE: CS> Diet for dogs and humans

[Sally Khanna]

That's a wonderful story.  To be open to new ideas is what keeps one truly 
alive.
 
Sally

David W Kenney  wrote:
Mike:
I have had my come upances...one which is indelibilized in my mind is below.
After this episode...I listened to anyone...and even called structural
engineers on occasion to help with stresses...

I once was presented with a fracture that had seen 4 other doctors which had
said to euthanize. I was known in the county as finding ways in almost all
supposedly hopeless cases. While looking at the x-rays and obviously
having a very frustrated look on my face...my janitor came by..(it was very
late in the evening)...and asked what my problem was. I showed him the
elbow joint area (where there wasn't a visible joint...only a soup of
crushed bone) and told him that I thought the joint was still there and
needed to come up with a way to make a prosthesis that would fix the upper
and lower part of the limb but allow the joint to move as if nothing
happened. He said...when you going to do the surgery...I told him noon the
next day (Had to stabilize this almost dead dog anyway.) He said ok...I
have an idea. The next day he came in with some hardware he'd picked up at
the local hardware store (before Home Depot).
I used it...and within 6 weeks this dog was walking as if nothing had
happened.
I told the owner...the janitor did it.
I'll listen to anyone that has an idea...good or bad...it is usually useful.
Dave
Thank you.

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Diet for dogs and humans

> David Kenney,AB,BS,DVM
> MSc (equiv) Physiological Biochemistry
> ND, Phd (Nutrition/Natural Health)

It's good to meet a fellow who has not let education get in the way of 
knowledge! 

Trained expertise is welcome here, David, particularly when it's 
posessor also acknowledges the wisdom of others' experience, as it 
appears you do, sir. 

Thank you,

Mike D.
da list owner guy

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RE: CS> Diet for dogs and humans

[David W Kenney]

Mike:
I have had my come upances...one which is indelibilized in my mind is below.
After this episode...I listened to anyone...and even called structural
engineers on occasion to help with stresses...

I once was presented with a fracture that had seen 4 other doctors which had
said to euthanize.  I was known in the county as finding ways in almost all
supposedly hopeless cases.   While looking at the x-rays and obviously
having a very frustrated look on my face...my janitor came by..(it was very
late in the evening)...and asked what my problem was.  I showed him the
elbow joint area (where there wasn't a visible joint...only a soup of
crushed bone) and told him that I thought the joint was still there and
needed to come up with a way to make a prosthesis that would fix the upper
and lower part of the limb but allow the joint to move as if nothing
happened.   He said...when you going to do the surgery...I told him noon the
next day (Had to stabilize this almost dead dog anyway.)  He said ok...I
have an idea.  The next day he came in with some hardware he'd picked up at
the local hardware store (before Home Depot).
I used it...and within 6 weeks this dog was walking as if nothing had
happened.
I told the owner...the janitor did it.
I'll listen to anyone that has an idea...good or bad...it is usually useful.
Dave
Thank you.

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From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Diet for dogs and humans

> David Kenney,AB,BS,DVM
> MSc (equiv) Physiological Biochemistry
> ND, Phd (Nutrition/Natural Health)

It's good to meet a fellow who has not let education get in the way of 
knowledge! 

Trained expertise is welcome here, David, particularly when it's 
posessor also acknowledges the wisdom of others' experience, as it 
appears you do, sir.  

Thank you,

Mike D.
da list owner guy

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Re: CS> Diet for dogs and humans

[M. G. Devour]

> David Kenney,AB,BS,DVM
> MSc (equiv) Physiological Biochemistry
> ND, Phd (Nutrition/Natural Health)

It's good to meet a fellow who has not let education get in the way of 
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Trained expertise is welcome here, David, particularly when it's 
posessor also acknowledges the wisdom of others' experience, as it 
appears you do, sir.  

Thank you,

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RE: CS>

[Sally Khanna]

Ever since Greenpeace told me that they release dioxin under light or heat 
conditions, I'm afraid to use them (Pet plastic) too much.  My neighbor, who is 
a scientist checked it out and said it was true.  anyone have any comment?
 
Sally

Garnet  wrote:
I use PET bottles to collect the distilled water I make because it fits
the set up. For my CS I do use half gallon glass canning jars. I keep
the box they come in and store my CS in the boxes in the pantry. That
way I always have it on hand for a high need situation and I can also
share if someone I know gets sick. They cost $1.59 per jar at my local
Ace Hardware, with six I get a box that stacks well and does not take up
shelf space since I can put them on the pantry floor. I doubt that PET
bottles are any cheaper, but they are lighter and have handles.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:07, Sally Khanna wrote:
> I have a question - why do many of you use PET plastic bottles instead
> of glass to keep the CS in?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sally
> 
> Dave and Gwlynda Irek wrote:
> Thanks Bo for the reply. Your right I'm trying to make 20 PPM
> - on the highest setting. I check every gallon of distilled
> water with my meter before I put it in the SilverGen and the
> average is 0.2 so I'm pretty sure my water is ok. I brought
> new PET plastic water jugs for the CS which I have used since
> day one of making CS. I don't rinse them out between filling
> them with the next batch of CS - so they should not have any
> ozonation or minerals from tap water. I will try the next
> batch on the 12 o'clock setting and see what happens.
> 
> Thanks so much for your help
> 
> Gwlynda
> 
> __
> From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>
> 
> 
> Gwlynda - There are two potential reasons for your yellow
> batches of CS. Firstly you are probably trying to make a
> batch in the 15 - 20ppm range. Try turning the dial down to
> 12 o'clock so you can make a 10ppm solution. This will always
> be clear. Secondly your water may be contaminated make
> sure the container is clean and the water is only pure
> distilled water with no ozonation or minerals added.
> 
> Bob
> - Original Message - 
> From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:24 PM
> Subject: CS>
> 
> I have been making CS with my SilverGen Pro 9 for
> about 2 months now. All my 5 gallon batches of CS has
> been clear until the last 2 - 5 gallons batches. The
> CS is yellow before I even get it out of the
> SilverGen. I turn the unit off as soon as it is
> finished and remove the silver and pump. Let the
> CS settle for a few minutes then pour it into a PET
> plastic water jug. Can someone tell me why my CS is
> turning yellow during and right after the unit turn
> off?
> 
> Gwlynda
> 
> __
> From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:27 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>question...
> 
> 
> 
> Barrett is the quack. 
> 
> 
> 
> There is no citation in the medical literature of
> electro-colloidal silver, made with pure silver and
> pure water, causing Argyria.
> 
> 
> 
> I have personally tried to have a dialog with that
> duck, and he is not willing to have one. 
> 
> 
> 
> Hulda Clark just successfully sued his ass.
> 
> 
> 
> JOH
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: sid aust [mailto:sid_a...@msn.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:19 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>question...
> 
> 
> 
> I am new to the forum and wondering what the side
> effects of taking CS. I just read one of Dr Barrett's
> article on how it will turn you grey and all kinds of
> bad stuff..and of course Dr Barrett is against
> everything good in alternative medicine..you can fine
> him on the quack forum...
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> Sid
> 
> 
> 
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RE: CS>

[Garnet]

I use PET bottles to collect the distilled water I make because it fits
the set up. For my CS I do use half gallon glass canning jars. I keep
the box they come in and store my CS in the boxes in the pantry. That
way I always have it on hand for a high need situation and I can also
share if someone I know gets sick. They cost $1.59 per jar at my local
Ace Hardware, with six I get a box that stacks well and does not take up
shelf space since I can put them on the pantry floor. I doubt that PET
bottles are any cheaper, but they are lighter and have handles.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:07, Sally Khanna wrote:
> I have a question - why do many of you use PET plastic bottles instead
> of glass to keep the CS in?
>  
> Thanks,
> Sally
> 
> Dave and Gwlynda Irek  wrote:
> Thanks Bo for the reply. Your right I'm trying to make 20 PPM
> - on the highest setting. I check every gallon of distilled
> water with my meter before I put it in the SilverGen and the
> average is 0.2 so I'm pretty sure my water is ok. I brought
> new PET plastic water jugs for the CS which I have used since
> day one of making CS. I don't rinse them out between filling
> them with the next batch of CS - so they should not have any
> ozonation or minerals from tap water. I will try the next
> batch on the 12 o'clock setting and see what happens.
>  
> Thanks so much for your help
>  
> Gwlynda
> 
> __
> From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>
> 
> 
> Gwlynda - There are two potential reasons for your yellow
> batches of CS.  Firstly you are probably trying to make a
> batch in the 15 - 20ppm range.  Try turning the dial down to
> 12 o'clock so you can make a 10ppm solution.  This will always
> be clear.  Secondly your water may be contaminated make
> sure the container is clean and the water is only pure
> distilled water with no ozonation or minerals added.
>  
> Bob
> - Original Message - 
> From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:24 PM
> Subject: CS>
> 
> I have been making CS with my SilverGen Pro 9 for
> about 2 months now. All my 5 gallon batches of CS has
> been clear until the last 2 - 5 gallons batches. The
> CS is yellow before I even get it out of the
> SilverGen. I turn the unit off as soon as it is
> finished and remove the silver and pump. Let the
> CS settle for a few minutes then pour it into a PET
> plastic water jug. Can someone tell me why my CS is
> turning yellow during and right after the unit turn
> off?
>  
> Gwlynda
> 
> __
> From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:27 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>question...
> 
> 
> 
> Barrett is the quack.  
> 
>  
> 
> There is no citation in the medical literature of
> electro-colloidal silver, made with pure silver and
> pure water, causing Argyria.
> 
>  
> 
> I have personally tried to have a dialog with that
> duck, and he is not willing to have one.  
> 
>  
> 
> Hulda Clark just successfully sued his ass.
> 
>  
> 
> JOH
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: sid aust [mailto:sid_a...@msn.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:19 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>question...
> 
>  
> 
> I am new to the forum and wondering what the side
> effects of taking CS.  I just read one of Dr Barrett's
> article on how it will turn you grey and all kinds of
> bad stuff..and of course Dr Barrett is against
> everything good in alternative medicine..you can fine
> him on the quack forum...

RE: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

[Garnet]

I don't think this proves anything except that dogs like meaty bones
more than carrots or other veggies.

My dogs love raw carrots and other veggies that I give them separate
from other foods. 

Myself, I like to eat mono meals, either high protien mostly meat, or
mostly veggie. If I eat a lot of meat at one meal I don't want any more
for the rest of the day and I will crave veggies. Or vice versa.

This does not prove that I am a carnivore or an omnivore. It proves I
have varying needs at different times and desire a varied diet, which is
the most likely to provide adequate nutrition.

Define omnivore and carnivore and I will further discuss. For now I
think we are not talking in strictly defined terms.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 14:51, Teri Johnston wrote:
> At 12:30 PM 10/27/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> >Thank you...
> >Perhaps you are right zoologically speaking.  In reality, dogs are
> >omnivorous...by diet choice.
> >David Kenney,AB,BS,DVM
> >MSc (equiv) Physiological Biochemistry
> >ND, Phd (Nutrition/Natural Health)
> >
> LOL...my dogs, all 11 of them if given the choice of a raw meaty bone or 
> vegetables would choose the RMB.  When I used to feed veggies regularly I 
> had to mix pureed liver with it to get them to eat it.
> 
> Teri Johnston
> www.welshspringers.com
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CS> Diet for dogs and humans

[David W Kenney]

Teri:
I am an omnivore...and if I were given a choice between a steak and
cabbage...I'd pick the steak everytime as well.  I am not big on rabbit
food.  It doesn't mean I won't eat it though...
I even had a cat once that would eat anything I was eating if I handed it to
her.  Mainly potato chips, fritos, etc.  However I could immediately get up
and put down a whole bowl of these...and not a cat in the house would touch
it.
Dr. Kenney
PS:  I founded and taught the very first licensed technician program in the
country in the early 60's.  This program is still going at Mesa State
College.  About 8 years later CA came out with the licensing...which they
called AHT's.  Animal Health Technicians.   I had 7 girls working for me and
6 took the the first test and all passed...all had just the bare minimum of
years of experience.  I received a letter from the Board congratulating me
because only 12 passed...and I had half of them.


-Original Message-
From: Teri Johnston [mailto:t...@welshspringers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

At 12:30 PM 10/27/2004 -0600, you wrote:

>Thank you...
>Perhaps you are right zoologically speaking.  In reality, dogs are
>omnivorous...by diet choice.
>David Kenney,AB,BS,DVM
>MSc (equiv) Physiological Biochemistry
>ND, Phd (Nutrition/Natural Health)
>
LOL...my dogs, all 11 of them if given the choice of a raw meaty bone or 
vegetables would choose the RMB.  When I used to feed veggies regularly I 
had to mix pureed liver with it to get them to eat it.

Teri Johnston
www.welshspringers.com
Authorized Fastrack R  Dealer 


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Re: CS>

[Marshall Dudley]

I think most are using HDPE, not PET.  That is because it is
inexpensive, light, and nonbreakable.

Marshall

Sally Khanna wrote:

> I have a question - why do many of you use PET plastic bottles instead
> of glass to keep the CS in? Thanks,Sally
>
> Dave and Gwlynda Irek  wrote:
>
>  Thanks Bo for the reply. Your right I'm trying to make 20
>  PPM - on the highest setting. I check every gallon of
>  distilled water with my meter before I put it in the
>  SilverGen and the average is 0.2 so I'm pretty sure my water
>  is ok. I brought new PET plastic water jugs for the CS which
>  I have used since day one of making CS. I don't rinse them
>  out between filling them with the next batch of CS - so they
>  should not have any ozonation or minerals from tap water. I
>  will try the next batch on the 12 o'clock setting and see
>  what happens.
>  Thanks so much for your help
>  Gwlynda
>  -
>  From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 AM
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>  Subject: CS>
>
>  Gwlynda - There are two potential reasons for your yellow
>  batches of CS.  Firstly you are probably trying to make a
>  batch in the 15 - 20ppm range.  Try turning the dial down to
>  12 o'clock so you can make a 10ppm solution.  This will
>  always be clear.  Secondly your water may be
>  contaminated make sure the container is clean and the
>  water is only pure distilled water with no ozonation or
>  minerals added. Bob
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:24 PM
>   Subject: CS>
>
>   I have been making CS with my SilverGen Pro 9 for
>   about 2 months now. All my 5 gallon batches of CS
>   has been clear until the last 2 - 5 gallons
>   batches. The CS is yellow before I even get it out
>   of the SilverGen. I turn the unit off as soon as
>   it is finished and remove the silver and pump. Let
>   the CS settle for a few minutes then pour it into
>   a PET plastic water jug. Can someone tell me why
>   my CS is turning yellow during and right after the
>   unit turn off?
>   Gwlynda
>   ---
>   From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net]
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:27 AM
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>   Subject: RE: CS>question...
>
>   Barrett is the quack.
>
>   There is no citation in the medical literature of
>   electro-colloidal silver, made with pure silver
>   and pure water, causing Argyria.
>
>   I have personally tried to have a dialog with that
>   duck, and he is not willing to have one.
>
>   Hulda Clark just successfully sued his ass.
>
>   JOH
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: sid aust [mailto:sid_a...@msn.com]
>   Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:19 PM
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>   Subject: CS>question...
>
>   I am new to the forum and wondering what the side
>   effects of taking CS.  I just read one of Dr
>   Barrett's article on how it will turn you grey and
>   all kinds of bad stuff..and of course Dr Barrett
>   is against everything good in alternative
>   medicine..you can fine him on the quack forum...
>   thanks
>   Sid
>
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RE: CS>

[Sally Khanna]

I have a question - why do many of you use PET plastic bottles instead of glass 
to keep the CS in?
 
Thanks,
Sally

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meter before I put it in the SilverGen and the average is 0.2 so I'm pretty 
sure my water is ok. I brought new PET plastic water jugs for the CS which I 
have used since day one of making CS. I don't rinse them out between filling 
them with the next batch of CS - so they should not have any ozonation or 
minerals from tap water. I will try the next batch on the 12 o'clock setting 
and see what happens.
 
Thanks so much for your help
 
Gwlynda


-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>



Gwlynda - There are two potential reasons for your yellow batches of CS.  
Firstly you are probably trying to make a batch in the 15 - 20ppm range.  Try 
turning the dial down to 12 o'clock so you can make a 10ppm solution.  This 
will always be clear.  Secondly your water may be contaminated make sure 
the container is clean and the water is only pure distilled water with no 
ozonation or minerals added.
 
Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: CS>


I have been making CS with my SilverGen Pro 9 for about 2 months now. All my 5 
gallon batches of CS has been clear until the last 2 - 5 gallons batches. The 
CS is yellow before I even get it out of the SilverGen. I turn the unit off as 
soon as it is finished and remove the silver and pump. Let the CS settle for a 
few minutes then pour it into a PET plastic water jug. Can someone tell me why 
my CS is turning yellow during and right after the unit turn off?
 
Gwlynda


-
From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>question...




Barrett is the quack.  

 

There is no citation in the medical literature of electro-colloidal silver, 
made with pure silver and pure water, causing Argyria.

 

I have personally tried to have a dialog with that duck, and he is not willing 
to have one.  

 

Hulda Clark just successfully sued his ass.

 

JOH

 

-Original Message-
From: sid aust [mailto:sid_a...@msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>question...

 

I am new to the forum and wondering what the side effects of taking CS.  I just 
read one of Dr Barrett's article on how it will turn you grey and all kinds of 
bad stuff..and of course Dr Barrett is against everything good in alternative 
medicine..you can fine him on the quack forum...


thanks


Sid




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Re: CS>Pulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments

[Brickeyk]

DR Gordon is changing the name of his pulsed magnet from EM-Probe to 
EM-Pulse.  He said too many people told him where he could put the probe. 
(Grin) He 
also guarantees it for one year full money refund. Drug co. should take note as 
they have zero guarantee. I used the probe last night strapped to my wrist 
which was real sore, AM pain was gone.

DR Gordon first experimented with static magnets and said their effect is 
mostly a skin effect.  Need the pulse in order to get penetration.

Trem, DR Gordon moved to Pt Townsend to be closer to grandkids. Might be your 
neighbor. I told him a little about CS. Might need one of your generators.
Brickey

RE: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

[Teri Johnston]

At 12:30 PM 10/27/2004 -0600, you wrote:


Thank you...
Perhaps you are right zoologically speaking.  In reality, dogs are
omnivorous...by diet choice.
David Kenney,AB,BS,DVM
MSc (equiv) Physiological Biochemistry
ND, Phd (Nutrition/Natural Health)

LOL...my dogs, all 11 of them if given the choice of a raw meaty bone or 
vegetables would choose the RMB.  When I used to feed veggies regularly I 
had to mix pureed liver with it to get them to eat it.


Teri Johnston
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RE: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

[David W Kenney]

Thank you...
Perhaps you are right zoologically speaking.  In reality, dogs are
omnivorous...by diet choice.
David Kenney,AB,BS,DVM
MSc (equiv) Physiological Biochemistry
ND, Phd (Nutrition/Natural Health)


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From: Teri Johnston [mailto:t...@welshspringers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

At 10:35 AM 10/27/2004 -0600, you wrote:

>Dogs are omnivores as well.  Cats are true carnivores.
>
Dr. Kenny,

While I give the proper respect to your Dr. prefix you do not say Dr. of 
what.  Dogs are not omnivores they are opportunistic carnivores.  I to feed 
a raw diet and feed on the whole prey ideology.  I don't feed grains and 
the only veggies my dogs eat are our leftovers.  I have no problem with 
feeding veggies.  But I feel that even though this is off topic for the CS 
list that those on it must not be given untrue information which your Dr. 
prefix would make them give you more authority.

Teri Johnston
25 yrs LVT
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RE: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

[Teri Johnston]

At 10:35 AM 10/27/2004 -0600, you wrote:


Dogs are omnivores as well.  Cats are true carnivores.


Dr. Kenny,

While I give the proper respect to your Dr. prefix you do not say Dr. of 
what.  Dogs are not omnivores they are opportunistic carnivores.  I to feed 
a raw diet and feed on the whole prey ideology.  I don't feed grains and 
the only veggies my dogs eat are our leftovers.  I have no problem with 
feeding veggies.  But I feel that even though this is off topic for the CS 
list that those on it must not be given untrue information which your Dr. 
prefix would make them give you more authority.


Teri Johnston
25 yrs LVT
www.welshspringers.com
Authorized Fastrack ®  Dealer 



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RE: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

[Dr. David W. Kenney]

Dogs are omnivores as well.  Cats are true carnivores.


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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:05 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

Although dogs are carnivores, humans are omnivores.

Marshall

connie horne wrote:

> Carnivores gain very little (if any) nutritional value
>  from veggies anyhow. Becomes mute whether or not they
> are precooked/boiled.
>
> Connie
>
> From: sol 
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:29:22 -0600
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is -
> Diet for dogs and humans
>
> Question: if you have to actually boil broccoli or
> whatever in water and
> then toss out the cooking water, why bother? A very
> large portion if not
> virtually all of the water soluble vitamins and
> minerals are gone down
> the drain, making the veg no longer a good source of
> them. So what is
> the point?
> sol
>
>
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Re: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is - Diet for dogs and humans

[Marshall Dudley]

Although dogs are carnivores, humans are omnivores.

Marshall

connie horne wrote:

> Carnivores gain very little (if any) nutritional value
>  from veggies anyhow. Becomes mute whether or not they
> are precooked/boiled.
>
> Connie
>
> From: sol 
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:29:22 -0600
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS> Was - Pulsed Electromagnetic; Is -
> Diet for dogs and humans
>
> Question: if you have to actually boil broccoli or
> whatever in water and
> then toss out the cooking water, why bother? A very
> large portion if not
> virtually all of the water soluble vitamins and
> minerals are gone down
> the drain, making the veg no longer a good source of
> them. So what is
> the point?
> sol
>
>
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Re: CS>

[Garnet]

I have had batches turn yellow at high ppm on my SG6 ~20ppm but if I
keep it around 10 ppm it is fine. Also if I have inadvertently sprayed a
cleaning product, I use vinegar and water, sometimes ammonia and water
(rarely), in well water, it would not take much over spray to
contaminate a batch. There is an tight seal between the generator and
the top of the jar, but it sits inside the wide mouth jar lid not
outside a narrow mouth. Also I may have touched the electrode in
cleaning, I have learned to be very carefully not to let it contact
anything but the tissue I use to clean it. I have had zero yellow
batches since I learned to avoid the above sources of contaminants. 

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 00:37, bbanever wrote:
> Gwlynda - There are two potential reasons for your yellow batches of
> CS.  Firstly you are probably trying to make a batch in the 15 - 20ppm
> range.  Try turning the dial down to 12 o'clock so you can make a
> 10ppm solution.  This will always be clear.  Secondly your water may
> be contaminated make sure the container is clean and the water is
> only pure distilled water with no ozonation or minerals added.
>  
> Bob
> - Original Message - 
> From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:24 PM
> Subject: CS>
> 
> I have been making CS with my SilverGen Pro 9 for about 2
> months now. All my 5 gallon batches of CS has been clear until
> the last 2 - 5 gallons batches. The CS is yellow before I even
> get it out of the SilverGen. I turn the unit off as soon as it
> is finished and remove the silver and pump. Let the CS settle
> for a few minutes then pour it into a PET plastic water jug.
> Can someone tell me why my CS is turning yellow during and
> right after the unit turn off?
>  
> Gwlynda
> 
> __
> From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:27 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>question...
> 
> 
> 
> Barrett is the quack.  
> 
>  
> 
> There is no citation in the medical literature of
> electro-colloidal silver, made with pure silver and pure
> water, causing Argyria.
> 
>  
> 
> I have personally tried to have a dialog with that duck, and
> he is not willing to have one.  
> 
>  
> 
> Hulda Clark just successfully sued his ass.
> 
>  
> 
> JOH
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: sid aust [mailto:sid_a...@msn.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:19 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>question...
> 
>  
> 
> I am new to the forum and wondering what the side effects of
> taking CS.  I just read one of Dr Barrett's article on how it
> will turn you grey and all kinds of bad stuff..and of course
> Dr Barrett is against everything good in alternative
> medicine..you can fine him on the quack forum...
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> Sid
> 
> 


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RE: CS>

[Dave and Gwlynda Irek]

Thanks Bo for the reply. Your right I'm trying to make 20 PPM - on the
highest setting. I check every gallon of distilled water with my meter
before I put it in the SilverGen and the average is 0.2 so I'm pretty sure
my water is ok. I brought new PET plastic water jugs for the CS which I have
used since day one of making CS. I don't rinse them out between filling them
with the next batch of CS - so they should not have any ozonation or
minerals from tap water. I will try the next batch on the 12 o'clock setting
and see what happens.
 
Thanks so much for your help
 
Gwlynda

  _  

From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>


Gwlynda - There are two potential reasons for your yellow batches of CS.
Firstly you are probably trying to make a batch in the 15 - 20ppm range.
Try turning the dial down to 12 o'clock so you can make a 10ppm solution.
This will always be clear.  Secondly your water may be contaminated make
sure the container is clean and the water is only pure distilled water with
no ozonation or minerals added.
 
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek   
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: CS>

I have been making CS with my SilverGen Pro 9 for about 2 months now. All my
5 gallon batches of CS has been clear until the last 2 - 5 gallons batches.
The CS is yellow before I even get it out of the SilverGen. I turn the unit
off as soon as it is finished and remove the silver and pump. Let the CS
settle for a few minutes then pour it into a PET plastic water jug. Can
someone tell me why my CS is turning yellow during and right after the unit
turn off?
 
Gwlynda

  _  

From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>question...



Barrett is the quack.  

 

There is no citation in the medical literature of electro-colloidal silver,
made with pure silver and pure water, causing Argyria.

 

I have personally tried to have a dialog with that duck, and he is not
willing to have one.  

 

Hulda Clark just successfully sued his ass.

 

JOH

 

-Original Message-
From: sid aust [mailto:sid_a...@msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>question...

 

I am new to the forum and wondering what the side effects of taking CS.  I
just read one of Dr Barrett's article on how it will turn you grey and all
kinds of bad stuff..and of course Dr Barrett is against everything good in
alternative medicine..you can fine him on the quack forum...

thanks

Sid