RE: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
We got used to the bathtub stuff and you never had to do anything but find the best places to get the best stuff...and maybe water it down and smuggle it here. ...or, you guys need the best of antifreeze? It's just coolant 'round here. ;-) I hear the tradition continues with BC Bud. Congrats! Keep up the good work. We just might wind up with another half decent womanising politicial dynasty. Bud and booze beats an oil slick to the brothel, it would appear. [No need to inhale... a good lickin will keep it tickin.] Got any buoyant bouncy brothels to boost beyond the borders? Ode [OK OK, OT, good flavors and poor PC taste.. I quit before somebady gets off ended] At 10:37 AM 12/7/2004 -0500, you wrote: Whats with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesnt.? (ok..just the beer ) -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>FDA, silver and CODEX ..Case in point.. so far, two people have been busted with smuggled flu vaccine. Probably many others who haven't been busted. BTW... Thanks for the booze, Canada. Good job!, Mr Kennedy. [paternal family smuggler] Did Clinton fund his campaign on Coca money laundered through land deals? ..some say 'so' Ode Where there be a demand, there 'shall be' a supply. That demand has always spontaniously produced, trained and funded the exact degree and army of numbers of midnight guerrilla desparados and underground support networks it takes to satisfy it. THAT is the American way. Ode --===AVGMAIL-41B5CA724721=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-43071EEB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.7 - Release Date: 12/7/2004
Re: CSCS and floaties
Oh yes! Absolutely scientific! LOL Ode At 05:06 PM 12/7/2004 -0500, you wrote: Actually, I don't think I've ever had a chunky. Only the floaties. These ARE scientific terms we're using, right? Rene' --- I'd leave the chunkies on the bottom and not worry about the rest. ..and not worry very much about the chunkies. Ode ---Original Message--- From: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Date: 12/07/04 09:47:48 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS and floaties No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 Attachment Converted: e:\eudora 303\attach\a_wink.gif No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.7 - Release Date: 12/7/2004
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This information is provided by Mercola.com, the world's most visited and trusted natural health website. You can keep current on all the exciting new natural health news by subscribing to the free weekly health newsletter at Mercola.com. FDA is Virtually Incapable of Protecting You From Unsafe Drugs Most people are familiar with the scrupulous claims against the FDA's inability to protect Americans from unsafe drugs. It has been an issue flooding the headlines of newspapers and the nightly news for the past few months. Accusations against the FDA started when Merck was pulled Vioxx from the market in 2004. Apparently the FDA had been aware of the drug's adverse side effects as early as 1999. Since Vioxx's removal, other drugs have been placed under the microscope and the agency's credibility has been questioned. One FDA drug safety reviewer, Dr. David Graham, told a Congressional panel that federal drug regulators were virtually incapable of protecting America. Previously Approved Drugs in Question Crestor (cholesterol-lowering drug): Causes acute kidney failure Bextra (painkiller): Increases risk of heart attack in those undergoing cardiac surgery and may also cause a fatal skin reaction Meridia (weight-loss pill): Causes substantial increases in blood pressure and has been associated with 124 reports of serious cardiovascular problems Serevent (asthma medication): Increases risk of asthma-related deaths and life-threatening episodes Accutane (acne drug): Causes birth defects The director of the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research opposed Graham's accusations; arguing Graham's findings and numbers constitute junk science and were nonetheless irresponsible. The director continued on by stating that all of the agency's decisions and drugs are not only safe but also effective. New York Times November 19, 2004 Dr. Mercola's Comment: As it so vividly obvious, conventional medicine is entering a terminal phase. That is why it is so important to take a stance now. For the past few months I have been seeing seven new patients every day that see me from all over the country. Many have very serious diseases and are on multiple medications. In nearly every case we are able to develop a plan to help wean them off of all their medications and become symptom free. This is not an ad for my clinic, as there are many outstanding natural medicine clinicians that can provide similar services. The point is to get you off these dangerous medications before they kill you and seek competent professional help if you require that. The Vioxx scandal is a perfect example. Tens of thousands of people needlessly died so that Merck could make a few billion extra dollars. Conventional healthcare slowly but surely progressed into a nasty disease; which now is at a rapid progression towards death. This disease is caused by: Rampant conflict of interest Tainted research and greed Lying and cheating by the morally bankrupt drug industry Inept federal and state regulators Unfortunately, one of the most prominent article on this site is Doctors are the Third Leading Cause of Death. Well that article was written in 2000 and (based on a variety of newer references) doctors are in fact the LEADING cause of death in this country. Not heart disease, not cancer -- doctors. In all fairness, doctors themselves are not to blame for all of this. The entire modern health care system, however, is to blame for allowing, even promoting, so many unnecessary procedures, DRUGS and mishaps. This illustrates precisely why the system is so desperately in need of change, and why facilitating this change is, and will continue to be, such a substantial portion of my vision. You can eliminate your need for drugs with these two factors -- monitor the foods you put into your body and address your emotional well being. These factors have absolutely everything to do with building your immune system and avoiding unnecessary pharmaceuticals. This is no quick fix, but rather is a lifestyle change that will be well worth the effort. To fully understand the details of these factors, I highly recommend getting my Total Health Program, as this book will allow you to realize the action needed to set you free from the pill-taking life and give you ultimate control of your health.
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- Original Message - From: Matthew McCann To: Ode Coyote Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:09 AM Subject: Re: CSCS and floaties Hi, Ode, I didn't write much about the polarization of the light scattered by the Tyndall Effect. It may just be a curiousity. On the other hand, it may be a way to break apart TE into a concentration factor and a particle size factor. If you view the TE with a polaroid film (e.g. polaroid sunglasses) a vertical laser beam and a horizontal laser beam may appear quite different, even though they are generated by the same laser pointer. This is what optical theory predicts. I haven't tried it because I don't own any polaroid sunglasses. Matthew - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: Matthew McCann Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:14 AM Subject: Re: CSCS and floaties I missed the polarized part. Ode At 10:31 AM 12/7/2004 -0500, you wrote: Right, lasers would not show iridescence. Detecting interference would have to be by a measurement, not an immediate perception by unaided eyes. This might be a major RD undertaking, though still possibily within the means of some home experimenters. - Original Message - From: mailto:odecoy...@alltel.netOde Coyote To: mailto:mmcc...@franciscan.eduMatthew McCann Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:12 AM Subject: Re: CSCS and floaties Probably so, but irridescence by eye depends on broad spectrum light to be split up into colors and lasers don't have it. I doubt 'I' could see the pattern better with a laser. [Hey, I'll try it] Magnifying glass maybe. Two different colored lasers probably could do a bang up job so long as my eyes aren't involved. Ode At 09:46 AM 12/7/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi, Ode, An 1/8 floatie can produce a very good reflection of the beam of a laser pointer. Even if interference is not noticeable to the naked eye (i.e. iridescence) it may be measureable using a laser pointer at various glancing angles. At glancing angles there should be optical polarization effects too. Incidentally, I think the Tyndall Effect scattering of light produces polarized light too. Matthew - Original Message - From: mailto:odecoy...@alltel.netOde Coyote To: mailto:mmcc...@franciscan.eduMatthew McCann Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:08 AM Subject: Re: CSCS and floaties I don't think my eyes go that small..I don't recall seeing one on a quarter inch oil slick either. I'll start paying attention. Ode At 07:34 AM 12/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: If floaties are metallic silver monomolecular films on the air-liquid interface, and if they exhibit interference fringes (like oil slicks do), it may then be possible to measure the average thickness of the particles. Two laser diode wavelengths would give two independent ways of measuring the layer thickness. Has anybody noticed interference fringes on the floaties? Matthew No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.7 - Release Date: 12/7/2004
Re: CS
Hmmm something in the foregoing [mercola] didnt make it to the list: I sent it cause it may be helpful to SilverFolks getting around the feds If the 'cutical bandits can get around em so easily, mebbee us 'bad' guys can too. davido -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX From: Marmar845 (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:38:01 In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:14:37 PM Central Standard Time, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: That again,is just my opinion. :-) we are entitled to one aren't we MA? (Grin) We are indeed, Ernie -- we are indeed!MA Thanks for clearing that up, guys! Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
Thanks Himagain! I hope each of us will read, heed and pass on your informative observations to help us adopt DR. Mercola's suggestions and take back our freedoms and accept our responsibilities: Namely: Each of us are Responsible to obtain and maintain our own Good Health! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX At 03:09 PM 06/12/04, you wrote: Mr. himagain, could you give us more info on this mds not keeping up with prescription-writing averages. i've assumed that you are in australia, correcto??? jim Sure Jim, Australia still has the best medical structure in the world, despite its many holes, but the US Pharmamed cartel is wearing it down. We have a subsidised medical service with two tiers: PRIVATE in which people can pay insurance for better facilities (theoretically not better treatment...) like own choice of Doctor, private room, elective surgery etc. and PUBLIC in which every citizen or visitor for that matter, can receive necessary medical/surgical help, free. Pharmaceuticals are massively subsidised so that the US Pharmaceutical cartel makes astronomical profits ( $125 for 96 cents worth of chemicals) and the peasants only *directly* pay a couple of bucks. The WHOLE SYSTEM is geared around the dispensing of approved pharmaceuticals and a GP ( General Practitioner) that doesn't dispense enough will be in big trouble. BUT it is then called under-servicing. In a General Practice of today, an MD is expected to turnover a patient every 7 minutes. Then hevvin help him if he doesn't write a scrip, too. ( The kickbacks from those buy a lot of yachts) We did have a small ripple in things a while ago when the US threw their weight around here a bit too publicly - punishing a few malcontents who complained - including the head of the Pharmaceutical Price Review C'tee here - about the excesses and threatening to buy elswhere.. yeh, like Mexico? They are gone. However, the control here is also the best in the world thanks to the reporting system for Medicare as it is called and They know exactly what every Doctor is doing all of the time, thanks to Oz computer innovations like Isys and advanced Data-balancing. E.G. An awful lot of GPs are now very much against willy-nilly vaccination - particularly of the young - but are not able to say much OR ELSE. They also can't simply stay quiet and not vaccinate the innocent, because it shows up instantly in the statistics breakdowns. ( More than a few have had warnings that I am aware of - and quickly, too.) Vaccinations are an in thing here today, making up for the losses on the HRT side. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus
I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? TIA, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus
Hello Sol, I am new to colloidal silver and at the same time discovered colloidal gold. Colloidal Gold is supposed to be good for: 1.. Reducing the swelling and pain of arthritis 2.. Brain function 3.. Obesity 4.. Blood circulation 5.. Improving digestion 6.. Rejuvenating sluggish organs 7.. Emotional conditions including depression and anxiety 8.. Promote healthier skin and the healing of skin ulcers 9.. Promote the healing of burns There are a bunch of testimonials here: http://www.colloidalgold.com/refroom.htm most of the testimonials seem to be that it improves mental ability and outlook but there are references to arthritis as well. Found this at this website: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesogold.htm Colloidal Gold In the nineteenth century, Colloidal Gold was commonly used in the United States to cure alcoholism (then called dipsomania, defined as the uncontrollable craving for alcoholic liquors), and today it is used to reduce dependency on alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, and carbohydrates. Colloidal Gold has a balancing and harmonizing effect on all levels of body, mind, and spirit. It is used to improve mental attitude and treat unstable mental and emotional states such as depression, melancholy, sorrow, fear, despair, anguish, frustration, suicidal tendencies, seasonal affective disorder (S.A.D.), poor memory, poor concentration, and many other imbalances in mind and spirit. Colloidal gold increases energy and libido. It also relieves attention deficit disorder, and improves will power and mental focus. Other traditional treatments include arthritis, obesity, skin ulcers, puncture wounds, nerve damage (neuropathy), detoxification, motor skills, restless leg syndrome, hyperactivity, poor eyesight, and poor hand-eye coordination. It is also used to alleviate the wasting and malnutrition associated with chronic diseases. Sorry if this is too off-topic for a silver list... I just thought the colloidal part makes it relevant? If this is too off topic... Here are some good lists for discussing colloidal gold: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/ (focuses mainly on making CG) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CG_exchange2/ (discussion of using CG) Best Regards, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:26 AM Subject: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? TIA, sol
RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus
_ FILIBUSTERS FOSTER FAIRNESS. They prevent a tyrannical majority from wielding absolute power. And absolute Power .(you finish the sentence!) JK -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? TIA, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.804 / Virus Database: 546 - Release Date: 11/30/2004
CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades
Sol -- Have you removed nightshades from your diet? potatoes. tomatoes, eggplant, green (and other) peppers -- add to that list paprika and cheddar cheese See http://www.noarthritis.com/nightshades.htm My pain disappeared and joints healed after removing nightshades and drinking enough water (1/2 your weight divided by 8 for the number of 8 oz glasses to drink every day. Do half before 10 AM) I also did a regimen of 5ppm CS --- 1/4 cup 4X/day on an empty stomach for 1 month Judy Down Maine I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? TIA, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.804 / Virus Database: 546 - Release Date: 11/30/2004
Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades
Nightshades don't seem to be a bother to me. I have had a major, whole body two days in bed flare after eating celery though. I don't do cheddar as the yellow coloring annatto seems to be a problem for me. Is annatto a nightshade? I know it is a common allergen. Right now, I do eat some nightshades as they are some of the only veg I'm not allergic to for other reasons. I have just had bloodtests to rule out RA or Lupus, though my online research seems to indicate that people who do not have positive Rheumatoid factor blood tests can still have the disease, and people who are positive for RF don't always have it. So I likely wasted my time and had 9 x-rays for nothing. I have some symtpoms of both, but not all. Over the past 15 or more years I've had problems in different joints, hands, wrists, elbows, feet, hips, now it is my knees that are the problem. A couple of times I have barely been able to get around, even with canes. I have been working on suspected underlying causes for the past two + years, but have made only minimal progress in the joint problems, GI problems are significantly better though. I may just have to self-treat for RA and see if I improve. This could also be Fibromyalgia or one of the many other related mysterious conditions. It doesn't seem to be anything definitive enough for a real medical diagnosis. So it is very frustrating. The orthopedic doc will likely push for arthroscopy but I don't want that. Meantime he has said no walking and maybe I could do swimming for excercise, but I can't because of eczema. I have no doubt whatsoever that pool chlorine and chemicals would set off the eczema horribly, because of the drying, if nothing else. Meantime I'm supposed to take 3 Ibuprofen 3 times a day, for two weeks. I don't normally do MDs anymore, but I was hoping for a diagnosis I could then use to self-treat. I doubt I'll make the full two weeks of the ibuprofen trial though, doubt my stomach will take it. I will likely return to MSM and yucca, and homeopathic pain relievers. If I could just get a diagnosis, I could target everything a whole lot more effectively. There has just got to be an underlying cause of all this whole complex of problems. Doesn't there? The food allergies I already have complicate every attempt to deal with things via diet though. My iodine allergy is the worst. Without the iodine allergy there is a lot I could do via diet. But I can't get rid of it or haven't been able to so far (20 years). sol Judydownmaine wrote: Sol -- Have you removed nightshades from your diet? potatoes. tomatoes, eggplant, green (and other) peppers -- add to that list paprika and cheddar cheese See http://www.noarthritis.com/nightshades.htm My pain disappeared and joints healed after removing nightshades and drinking enough water (1/2 your weight divided by 8 for the number of 8 oz glasses to drink every day. Do half before 10 AM) I also did a regimen of 5ppm CS --- 1/4 cup 4X/day on an empty stomach for 1 month Judy Down Maine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades
Hi Sol, You'll have to excuse my ignorance. I developed a left knee problem back in April. It has become much better but still having intermittent aches. Sometimes weather is a factor, sometimes sedentary inactivity. I practice yoga and when done mindfully I have found it does help relieve pain. I did a few typical medical procedures and still nothing really. No structural damage that can be seen, not even an MRI detected much. There might be some inflammation behind some fatty tissue, inconclusive at best. A sports therapist thinks it's an IT band issue along the side of my leg running down just past the knee. The constant bending he thinks is what is causing the aggravation. I am still not sure if it is a physical problem, or if it has been brought on by dietary neglect. Went to a nutritionist didn't work. I don't believe it is RA. I don't have any inflammation, in the joint or surrounding area. Still haven't got a clue. Got any ideas? In regards to your situation, I suppose without sounding silly, believe you have to over come your iodine allergy? The thyroid really does need this. Have you tried Homeopathy? Just a suggestion.. :-) Ernie -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades Nightshades don't seem to be a bother to me. I have had a major, whole body two days in bed flare after eating celery though. I don't do cheddar as the yellow coloring annatto seems to be a problem for me. Is annatto a nightshade? I know it is a common allergen. Right now, I do eat some nightshades as they are some of the only veg I'm not allergic to for other reasons. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades
Hi Sol, Sorry to read of your allergies and problems. Regarding the Chlorine in pool chemicals--my son has a hot tub which he enjoys nightly to relieve pain from his Army Desert Storm injuries--I had been supplying him CS, CCu (colloidal copper) and H2O2 which he used with great success to replace regular harmful pool chemicals. Recently he found a Copper/Silver Bar that he purchased and uses and reports great success and comfort without chemical irritation. They also make such bars in larger sizes for use in pools--I suggest you inquire with pool suppliers and pool owners where you swim to see if they might have changed their preventive maintenance. Perhaps even sell them on the advantages so they, too, can enjoy their swims without skin irritation. Best regards, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades Nightshades don't seem to be a bother to me. I have had a major, whole body two days in bed flare after eating celery though. I don't do cheddar as the yellow coloring annatto seems to be a problem for me. Is annatto a nightshade? I know it is a common allergen. Right now, I do eat some nightshades as they are some of the only veg I'm not allergic to for other reasons. I have just had bloodtests to rule out RA or Lupus, though my online research seems to indicate that people who do not have positive Rheumatoid factor blood tests can still have the disease, and people who are positive for RF don't always have it. So I likely wasted my time and had 9 x-rays for nothing. I have some symtpoms of both, but not all. Over the past 15 or more years I've had problems in different joints, hands, wrists, elbows, feet, hips, now it is my knees that are the problem. A couple of times I have barely been able to get around, even with canes. I have been working on suspected underlying causes for the past two + years, but have made only minimal progress in the joint problems, GI problems are significantly better though. I may just have to self-treat for RA and see if I improve. This could also be Fibromyalgia or one of the many other related mysterious conditions. It doesn't seem to be anything definitive enough for a real medical diagnosis. So it is very frustrating. The orthopedic doc will likely push for arthroscopy but I don't want that. Meantime he has said no walking and maybe I could do swimming for excercise, but I can't because of eczema. I have no doubt whatsoever that pool chlorine and chemicals would set off the eczema horribly, because of the drying, if nothing else. Meantime I'm supposed to take 3 Ibuprofen 3 times a day, for two weeks. I don't normally do MDs anymore, but I was hoping for a diagnosis I could then use to self-treat. I doubt I'll make the full two weeks of the ibuprofen trial though, doubt my stomach will take it. I will likely return to MSM and yucca, and homeopathic pain relievers. If I could just get a diagnosis, I could target everything a whole lot more effectively. There has just got to be an underlying cause of all this whole complex of problems. Doesn't there? The food allergies I already have complicate every attempt to deal with things via diet though. My iodine allergy is the worst. Without the iodine allergy there is a lot I could do via diet. But I can't get rid of it or haven't been able to so far (20 years). sol Judydownmaine wrote: Sol -- Have you removed nightshades from your diet? potatoes. tomatoes, eggplant, green (and other) peppers -- add to that list paprika and cheddar cheese See http://www.noarthritis.com/nightshades.htm My pain disappeared and joints healed after removing nightshades and drinking enough water (1/2 your weight divided by 8 for the number of 8 oz glasses to drink every day. Do half before 10 AM) I also did a regimen of 5ppm CS --- 1/4 cup 4X/day on an empty stomach for 1 month Judy Down Maine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus
Hi again Sol, Regarding your taking MSM for the RA, a friend informed me that the dose is very important; At least 12 1,000mg MSM Tabs + 6 1,000mg Vit C--He reported that he had recieved recognizable relief with this dose after only a week. Of course, you could use the powders and stir in juice of choice--only make sure you're at this large minimum dose in order for effective relief. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? TIA, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus and nightshades
Sol, There is a doctor (acupuncturist, OMD, nurse, phd) in Buena Park CA. She treats people with m ultiple sensitivities and has had good success. I went there a few times and my son had even better results than I did. Her name is Devi Nambudripad. The system she developed is NAET. Perhaps you've heard of it, if not, you might consider it. Sally sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Nightshades don't seem to be a bother to me. I have had a major, whole body two days in bed flare after eating celery though. I don't do cheddar as the yellow coloring annatto seems to be a problem for me. Is annatto a nightshade? I know it is a common allergen. Right now, I do eat some nightshades as they are some of the only veg I'm not allergic to for other reasons. I have just had bloodtests to rule out RA or Lupus, though my online research seems to indicate that people who do not have positive Rheumatoid factor blood tests can still have the disease, and people who are positive for RF don't always have it. So I likely wasted my time and had 9 x-rays for nothing. I have some symtpoms of both, but not all. Over the past 15 or more years I've had problems in different joints, hands, wrists, elbows, feet, hips, now it is my knees that are the problem. A couple of times I have barely been able to get around, even with canes. I have been working on suspected underlying causes for the past two + years, but have made only minimal progress in the joint problems, GI problems are significantly better though. I may just have to self-treat for RA and see if I improve. This could also be Fibromyalgia or one of the many other related mysterious conditions. It doesn't seem to be anything definitive enough for a real medical diagnosis. So it is very frustrating. The orthopedic doc will likely push for arthroscopy but I don't want that. Meantime he has said no walking and maybe I could do swimming for excercise, but I can't because of eczema. I have no doubt whatsoever that pool chlorine and chemicals would set off the eczema horribly, because of the drying, if nothing else. Meantime I'm supposed to take 3 Ibuprofen 3 times a day, for two weeks. I don't normally do MDs anymore, but I was hoping for a diagnosis I could then use to self-treat. I doubt I'll make the full two weeks of the ibuprofen trial though, doubt my stomach will take it. I will likely return to MSM and yucca, and homeopathic pain relievers. If I could just get a diagnosis, I could target everything a whole lot more effectively. There has just got to be an underlying cause of all this whole complex of problems. Doesn't there? The food allergies I already have complicate every attempt to deal with things via diet though. My iodine allergy is the worst. Without the iodine allergy there is a lot I could do via diet. But I can't get rid of it or haven't been able to so far (20 years). sol Judydownmaine wrote: Sol -- Have you removed nightshades from your diet? potatoes. tomatoes, eggplant, green (and other) peppers -- add to that list paprika and cheddar cheese See http://www.noarthritis.com/nightshades.htm My pain disappeared and joints healed after removing nightshades and drinking enough water (1/2 your weight divided by 8 for the number of 8 oz glasses to drink every day. Do half before 10 AM) I also did a regimen of 5ppm CS --- 1/4 cup 4X/day on an empty stomach for 1 month Judy Down Maine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hey MA, Would you know of a good water distiller? Sears has one but they want 250.00 Canadian. It's a KENMORE. Go figure huh? What do you think the odds of a coincidence are eh? Let me know, of for that matter anyone? Cheers.! Ernie -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:14:37 PM Central Standard Time, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: That again, is just my opinion. :-) we are entitled to one aren't we MA? (Grin) We are indeed, Ernie -- we are indeed! http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201d20638/01 MA
RE: CSChecking the quality of your CS ..... how?
I bought a Silvergem as a chrissy present for myself lol. thanks for the info on the sludge, and also all the input on the floaties and sparkles, Sue Sue and he 4 GoldensFrom: "M. G. Devour" mdev...@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSChecking the quality of your CS . how? Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 19:15:49 -5 Hi Sue, If you're using Trem's machine, there's a good chance the Tyndall effect will be fairly subtle. You'd probably have to view it in a darkened room if you are to see it at all, so that is one more thing to try if you haven't yet. As you say, it's not crucial. What is sludge? I think your question is in response to Ken's remark "between a few ppm and sludge...?" I'll give you two answers: One kind of "sludge" we might mention is the fluffy build-up of silver metal and oxide particles that'll form on your negative electrode if you let the machine run for a real long time. Don't stir the stuff in and drink it, but don't be paranoid if you get a few tiny bits, either. Further in that direction, the *other* answer has to do with a Libertarian US Senate candidate from Montana who made the national news a couple of years back, complete with doctored photographs, when somebody noticed he looked a little odd under studio lights during a debate. Whereas the obviously photoshopped pictures made him look like a punked- out Papa Smurf with electric blue skin and orange hair, he in fact had an extremely mild case of argyria. He got that way by taking bad advice on how to make CS, adding several mistakes of his own, and then drinking an awful lot of it. He was using tap or well water, *adding* salt to it, cooking it for an hour or more with an unregulated generator, then drinking the opaque sludge he'd created by the glassful, every day for 2 or 3 years!!! If you work that hard at it, yes, you stand a very good chance of developing argyria. Even so, his case is rather mild. So much so that I don't believe he's concerned about it. I think the story is covered on Jason's excellent site... http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria.htmlI did buy a lazer pointer when i bought my machine, trouble is i am partial sighted and i cant see the beam when it shines through the water at all, but that is my fault, As Ode states it tastes of silver , or rather metal. The machine stated to set the dial midway to produce 8- 10ppm which i did.I just wanted to know if there was a meter to give me a rough guide. Anyone want a lazer pointer lol. What is sludge please?. Hope that helps! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRheu. Arth.
Many people find great relief from using a zapper in addition to cs. I know I have. Not RA, but the other kind where you get knots on your joints. Anything that can do for those painful knots what a zapper has done for mine just has to be good for everything. My opinion. pj Best wishes. __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS***Rheumatoid arthritis or Lupus/MSM?
I wanted to run something by you and runs with this thread. My husband has heart disease, had stents, saw an alt doc, takes supps, didn't do what he was told all the way. Plavix is one of his drugs, Coreg too. He developed worsening arthritis symptoms in all major joints, especially one knee, one knuckle, wrists. Lump developed on his shoulder a couple inches up from his joint, went partially back down. Getting MRI. His uric acid was high, has that history. Eats too much sugar mostly, some alchohol. I told him:). Reg heart doc put him on allopurinol. I told him why not try MSM. Put in email to alt doc but he(husband) took it (MSM) only a few days while waiting for answer. We noticed his blood was thicker as he cut himself and it did not flow a gusher like usual. What?? He said he quit MSM as he has some chest pain. What do you all think of MSM and thickening of the blood?? or ? He had been on allopurinol for about 3 weeks at least. They did say it took about a month to work. He was only taking 1000 mg MSM twice a day. twllLL twl...@direcway.com wrote:Do a search on ( Serrapeptase ) Its suppose to be good for inflamation,clot disolver,cleans out your arteries more. www.serrapeptase.info - Original Message - From: Richard Harris To: Cc: Richard Harris Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:03 AM Subject: RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus Hi again Sol, Regarding your taking MSM for the RA, a friend informed me that the dose is very important; At least 12 1,000mg MSM Tabs + 6 1,000mg Vit C--He reported that he had recieved recognizable relief with this dose after only a week. Of course, you could use the powders and stir in juice of choice--only make sure you're at this large minimum dose in order for effective relief. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? TIA, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS
In a message dated 12/8/2004 4:42:06 PM Central Standard Time, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: Would you know of a good water distiller? Sears has one but they want 250.00 Canadian. It’s a “KEN”MORE. Hi Ernie. I'm sorry, I can't help you with a water distiller -- I've never used one. I can tell you this, though -- I'm totally sold on Sears' appliances, Kenmore specifically. My two sets of Kenmore washers and dryers have lasted almost twenty years each. And everyone I talk to that has Sears' Kenmore appliances says the same thing. So, it may be very well worth your while (and dollars) to get the Kenmore water distiller, unless that price is totally out of line with other brands. I hope that others on the list can give you better input. MA
CSsilver-digest Digest V2004 #963
Sol-- I've posted here once before, and the medical training I've had, is through the school of hard knocks. The symptoms you describe appear to be a viral infection. I don't know, but assume colloidal silver would be helpful since it fights infections. Viruses affect people in different ways, one person may suffer from arthritis, while the other has diabetes or vision and hearing loss, or a myriad of other symptoms. Except for Aids and possibly hepatitis, few understand viruses. Since viruses usually move into cells, and not circulating in the blood, they rarely show up in a blood test. Many doctors tell patients, they're in good health when nothing could be further from the truth. It's the viruses that are killing us, but haven't found anyone yet willing to study them, including NINDS of the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda. This is a goverment-research lab funded by the taxpayer FOR the taxpayer. Ho,ho,ho! I've been searching nearly twelve years for someone to study me but no one interested in finding cures. Congress appropriates billions overnight to fight a war, but when the people need it; suddenly, there's little money left to help the disabled and sick, even though the taxpayer pays most of Uncle Sam's bills and brag democracy to the world. Third-world countries do a better job at research than here, the richest nation in the world. No research, no cures. Simple as that. The power lies with the people, will Americans ever wake up before it's too late V.Jean G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScs for Ulcerative colitis
Can cs be used effectively to treat ulcerative colitis ? Boone
Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus
We've had the same types of reports for MSM. We've found that in most cases when people aren't getting results, it's because they aren't taking enough. For people with RA type problems, we usually suggest at least 1000mg. per 30 pounds of body weight, taken twice a day. At that level, most people tell us they start feeling much better within a week or so. -James --- The Name Says It All... www.WholesaleMSM.com --- - Original Message - From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:03 PM Subject: RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus Hi again Sol, Regarding your taking MSM for the RA, a friend informed me that the dose is very important; At least 12 1,000mg MSM Tabs + 6 1,000mg Vit C--He reported that he had recieved recognizable relief with this dose after only a week. Of course, you could use the powders and stir in juice of choice--only make sure you're at this large minimum dose in order for effective relief. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? TIA, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOXYGEN TANKS FOR NEBULISER
Can anyone tell me if the o2 for welding use and medical use are the same ? Which one is good for o2 nebuliser ? Which o2 tank is recommended ? What is the minimum size of the tank that would be sufficient to operate air brush nebuliser ? Thanks, Boone
Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus
I firmly believe Rheumatoid arthritis, Lupus, MS and most auto immunine diseases begin from the same sourcemycoplasma: www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm . If you tke copious amounts of CS (16 oz. of home made) on a continous basis, you will get excellent results. It is not instant, but withing a few weeks you will begin to see improvement. My two friendws were pretty much clear of Lupus after about 6 months. Three people I know with rheumatoid arthritis take about 3-4 oz. a day, but they take it continually. It works! Just have a littlepatience. Nancy Subject: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
At 12:29 AM 08/12/04, Ode wrote: I'm coming to think that owning guns is no longer ,in itself, a deterrant to tyranny..it's the fact that our kinfolk in the military, who are a thousand times better equipt and able to organize any assault or defense would hate to have to shoot us relatively pansy ass gun owners into little pieces. [It ain't even 'sportin' ] Face it, ten of us remote control TV junkies wouldn't compare to even one determined eager to die desert freak with a AK47 and RPG that gets wiped out by the thousand a day by 50 of 'our guys'. Ode, you have been watching too many American Pie Movies. :-) I've taken this a little further on the Off-Topic list - at great personal risk of attack. O:-) New topic : soldiers Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus
Do a search on( Serrapeptase ) Its suppose to be good for inflamation,clot disolver,cleans out your arteries more. www.serrapeptase.info - Original Message - From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:03 AM Subject: RE: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus Hi again Sol, Regarding your taking MSM for the RA, a friend informed me that the dose is very important; At least 12 1,000mg MSM Tabs + 6 1,000mg Vit C--He reported that he had recieved recognizable relief with this dose after only a week. Of course, you could use the powders and stir in juice of choice--only make sure you're at this large minimum dose in order for effective relief. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRheumatoid arthritis or Lupus I searched the archives for any reference to Rheumatoid arthritis, found a thread with 11 messages in it and other than the subject header, not one word about curing RA with colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience with using CS for either RA or Lupus? TIA, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com