Re: CSa good read on H202 and Dentistry.

2005-03-03 Thread kent
Hi everyone,
I have a question, sasha what is the rate of H2O2/ distilled water to make 35% 
H2O2 = 3%.  I'm also curious are you using at 90% strength is that correct.
Kent
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  Subject: Re: CSa good read on H202 and Dentistry.


Hi Himagain and Group,

Just thought to add my .02 in.  I use about 1:10 ratio of 3% H202 (35% 
Food Grade diluted with DW to 3%) in my Waterpik at least once a week -- 90% 
H2o2 to 10% water.  Not only do I no longer  have cavities, my teeth are really 
white, and my gums are returning to normals after beginning to recede.   I also 
use CS whenever I bite the side of my gums or my tongue, or if I burn my gums 
or tongue with something hot (hot food or beverage).  I carry one squirt bottle 
of H2o2 and one squirt bottle of CS with me wherever I go.   I make my own CS 
and I buy my 35% Food Grade and dilute it to 3%.

Sasha

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From: Himagain
Date: 03/01/05 08:07:28
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSa good read on H202 and Dentistry.

Hi people,
Don't say I don't mind you lot a lot - here is a book normally sold
hardcopy and you can have it complete for zilch.
http://www.drdouglass.com/Books/h2o2medicalmiracle/index.htm

Don't know for how long though, or why.  Everything else there is
chargeable.   The remarkable history and use of H202 - Hydrogen 
Peroxide (
should be called Hydrogen Dioxide really..)
Interesting stuff in it about dentistry - quote:
 Dr Paul Cummings of Wilmington Nth Carolina TAUGHT Gum Surgery at Uni 
of
Nth Carolina.
Now a convert to H202
He himself NOW points out that not one single study has ever shown
periodontal surgery to be necessary. !!!

Cheers,

Himagain 
   
   


RE: CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread Ed Kasper
thanks for the post on Congressman Ron Paul of Texas 14 th district. Great
Guy.
I have a question on your cancer pH 
RE:   SECOND. Test her Ph.  If over 6.8 she does not have Cancer - merely a
tumour -

please elaborate more on this. or refer me to a site if this goes too far
OT. or email me e...@happyherbalist.com

test pH of blood, salvia, sweat or urine?

thanks,

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:30 PM
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Subject: Re: CSCansema


At 01:21 AM 03/03/05, you wrote:

And I need it too.  My husband was diagnosed yesterday for the third
time.  Sigh.   MA

You really will have to face giving up the good life, I'm afraid.  :-)
  Any form of cancer is a very bad sign of systemic intoxication.  What
sort of blood state is he in?  Acid Ph of what sort of level?
It can be dropped pretty dramatically by simply changing from a cancerous
diet.

Only this very day, I had a call from a MD - hysterical because his wife
has proved positive for a cancer. What can he do, what can he do???  He
*knows* medical treatment is extremely dangerous and ineffective.
Same anecdotal reporting of an opinion I once heard out in the jungle
somewhere, as I passed to him:
FIRST.  Do not let her have any invasive treatment.
SECOND. Test her Ph.  If over 6.8 she does not have Cancer - merely a
tumour -
THIRD.  Whether Ph acid positive or not, get her out of the good life -
where do you think tumours and melanomas come from? ( He didn't know - like
most Doctors)
FOURTH. Cancer is not a big deal - not like losing a leg, or having
asbestosis, or physical brain damage.  More like being an
alcoholic/diabetic. You have demonstrated a weakness for sugar and have a
damaged metabolic system.  Like owning an old auto, ( even if you are 21!)
your body needs TLC from now on.   That's all.
FIFTH. Fear kills more people than bullets. There is never a time when fear
has a use. Never.  Any action, any positive action at all will banish it to
the animal world where it belongs.

Best wishes,
Himagain
NOTA BENE:   NOTHING I say here or elsewhere should be construed as any
form of qualified advice on any matter unless specifically paid for at my
counselling rate of $2000 per hour.  Your due diligence is mandatory in all
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RE: CS PHN

2005-03-03 Thread Ed Kasper
The symptoms of shingles is very common in China and is usually diagnosied
as gallbladder or liver heat or dampheat and treated accordingly. Typical
herbal formula is Xiao Feng San but depends upon the differential diagnosis.
Acupuncture is another method often successfully employed. All intergarte
well with CS applied locally with laser light theraphy. One can also simply
use a laser pointing pen (Radio Shack 24.95). First saturate the area with
CS, cover with plastic film (saran wrap)and press (gently) the laser agianst
the skin. Hold for a few minutes and repeat along different areas.

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Acupuncture is a jab well done
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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS PHN


There's no cure for shingles; however, Famvir, an expensive anti-viral
prescription drug, may help to control the disease but won't cure it.
Shingles is caused by Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome. It starts in the ear,
affects the eyesight, tear ducts, hearing, facial muscles, swallowing,
speech, hair loss, vertigo, high anxiety, and slowly progresses to vital
organs and lastly the brain. Massachusetts General Hospital has
estimated over a million suffer from shingles in the U.S.  Why no one
has studied this disease, discovered in 1907, is truly mind boggling.
Contact your state and federal representatives  and ask for research on
Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome.

V.Jean.G.


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CSMore uses than coca kola - cellphones

2005-03-03 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi,

Sometimes this list gives me a real laugh.  Thank you all!  :)

Jean


 
 Dan, John, simmer down please, gentlemen!
 
 James? Go stand in the corner. NO! Put that away!!!
 
 grrr
 
 Mike Devour
 silver-list owner
 
 
 Whack his pee-pee, Balif!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:18 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSSOMore uses than coca kola - cellphones
 
 
 
 At 04:41 AM 01/03/05, you wrote:
 
 I tried to log onto the tropica site to get this information as you
 indicate below.
 
 This is without exception THE WORST commercial site I have ever been
 to!
 
 What are you, some sort of advertising troll?
 
 Dan
 
 What on earth are you talking about here, Dan ?
 There is no Website mentioned in this post at all 
 Your copy info here refers only to a mailing list much like this one -
 
 But I do not take kindly to your insult.
 It is the sign of a lower intellect to resort to vilification at
 anytime, much less from a position of weakness - vis: total lack of
 understanding of a subject or debate.
 
 Himagain
 
 


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Re: CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread Raine
Bob, 
This is fabulous and timely news. My blind old lady dog has just popped up with 
several tumors. I haven't had them tested as of yet to determine if they are 
benign, or what. I am absolutely determined that my dog will not die of cancer, 
nor will I subject her to any invasive treatments. This type of suggestion is 
just what I'm looking for. 

I do have to ask- do you simply rub it through the hair, or do you shave the 
spots over the tumors?

Thanks so much,
Raine with Chino the one-eyed wonder dog
  - Original Message - 
  From: bbanever 


  Teri,

  The ingredients are almost identical to most of the cansema type 
  escharotic salves, I have no doubt it will work.  I use a similar product on 
  horses to cure melanoma as well as benign tumors in the skin.  Works every 
  time... usually within a week or less.  Actual malignancies can take longer, 
  but it still works.  In fact it can be fed internally for cancer almost 
  anywhere in the body.  Dosage is important and must be started slowly with a 
  small amount.  A protein source is usually recommeded to be taken at the 
  same time... milk, soy milk, peanut butter, etc.  Apparently it buffers the 
  herbs so they aren't as harsh on the stomach lining.Should also be taken 
  with food... never on an empty stomach, usually a pea sized portion or two 
  per day.

 Bob


CSCS in Water

2005-03-03 Thread Medwith, Robert
I have a bunch of 1 gallon and Pretzel containers (2 1/2 to 3 )gallons.
I filled them with distilled water and put a little CS in the water.
I am putting them away on shelf for Emergency use.
How long will the water last, should I put more CS in at intervals.
How much CS per Gallon, will more CS in water keep longer.
I make the CS by the Gallons, I have several CS generators and some current
reducing Diodes to make a Dozen more if needed.
All containers were cleaned good and then rinsed twice with distilled water.
 
 Bob
 


CSCansema Thank You

2005-03-03 Thread Teri Johnston
First I wish to thank each and everyone of you who responded to my 
questions. As far as testimonials goes I do understand the danger of 
this.  I have started Gary on a Burdock/Dandelion/Echinacea tea  this week 
as I'm awaiting arrival of the organic herbs I've ordered to make Essaic 
tea and the black salve.  I would like to also to say that the many things 
I have learned over the past couple of years on this list has been wonderful.


Personally Gary was treated with the poisons Peg Intron and Rebetol for Hep 
C before I leaned about CS.  He tested positive for Hep C after the FDNY 
gave him the Hep B vaccine. I suspect the vaccine is what set off all of 
his health problems. Now this T Cell Lymphoma could be trying to flush 
those other poisons out of his system


The diet changes are difficult but we are making them.

Thanks Again,
Teri


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CScansema---herbal veil

2005-03-03 Thread Shirley Reed

I think herbal veil is the same as cansema or
very, very nearly so.  




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CSh202

2005-03-03 Thread Shirley Reed
  A hot tub product called Baquacil is 27%
peroxide and is available at many spa and pool
stores.  Fourteen $ per gallon.  It has
stabilizers of course, but so does the 35%.  pj




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Re: CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread Marmar845
Thanks Himagain -- I'm going to print out your post for him to read.  MA


Re: CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 3/3/05 1:24:27 AM Central Standard Time, 
rainelov...@sbcglobal.net writes:


 The appointment was 2 weeks away, so in the meantime I took Essiac Tea 
 (Flor-Essence). By the time my appt. rolled around all spots and the abnormal 
 mole, were gone and I cancelled it. 

OK -- now I need information for me!!  I've got a couple of moles that I'd 
like to see disappear.  What is Essiac Tea and/or Flor-Essence and where would 
I 
get that?   Thanks. MA


CSquestion for Ed Kasper

2005-03-03 Thread deborah byron
Dear Ed--I'm sure you've anticipated this question--isn't there something  
suitable as an alternative to plastic wrap?  Like a dampened cotton cloth?

Thanks,
Deborah

use a laser pointing pen (Radio Shack 24.95). First saturate the area  
with CS, cover with plastic film (saran wrap)and press (gently) the  
laser agianst the skin. Hold for a few minutes and repeat along  
different areas.


Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.



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Re: CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 3/3/05 10:55:39 AM Central Standard Time, 
edkas...@pacbell.net writes:


 please elaborate more on this. or refer me to a site if this goes too far
 OT. or email me e...@happyherbalist.com

No -- please elaborate on this right here, if ya don't mind.   Thanks.MA


RE: CSVaricosities... and hemorrhoids!

2005-03-03 Thread Nina Whit
EX nil hil lo Nil hil Fit


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RE: CSRe:Re: CSModucare

2005-03-03 Thread Nina Whit
Moducare is STEROLS not STEROIDS.


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Re: CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread bbanever
Raine,

  I don't know how much your dog weighs but for external application just 
rub a small amount on the skin over the tumor... yes the salve must touch the 
skin so you might want to shave the hair in that area.  Do this once a day... 
don't wash the herbs off.  Some folks prefer to do this every other day... 
it'll still work.  The area may become dry, itchy or painful to the dog as the 
tumor dies.  If you wish, wipe aloe vera gel on the site when this occurs.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raine 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:23 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCansema


  Bob, 
  This is fabulous and timely news. My blind old lady dog has just popped up 
with several tumors. I haven't had them tested as of yet to determine if they 
are benign, or what. I am absolutely determined that my dog will not die of 
cancer, nor will I subject her to any invasive treatments. This type of 
suggestion is just what I'm looking for. 

  I do have to ask- do you simply rub it through the hair, or do you shave the 
spots over the tumors?

  Thanks so much,
  Raine with Chino the one-eyed wonder dog
- Original Message - 
From: bbanever 


Teri,

The ingredients are almost identical to most of the cansema type 
escharotic salves, I have no doubt it will work.  I use a similar product 
on 
horses to cure melanoma as well as benign tumors in the skin.  Works every 
time... usually within a week or less.  Actual malignancies can take 
longer, 
but it still works.  In fact it can be fed internally for cancer almost 
anywhere in the body.  Dosage is important and must be started slowly with 
a 
small amount.  A protein source is usually recommeded to be taken at the 
same time... milk, soy milk, peanut butter, etc.  Apparently it buffers the 
herbs so they aren't as harsh on the stomach lining.Should also be 
taken 
with food... never on an empty stomach, usually a pea sized portion or two 
per day.

   Bob


Re: CSCansema Thank You/Pyro-Energen

2005-03-03 Thread bbanever

Teri,

   If you are dealing with virus I would strongly urge you to look into 
using the Pyro-Energen machine.  It generates negative static 
electricity and allows the body to destroy virus.  It will not kill 
bacteria but you are dealing with at least one if not more virus.   I used 
it on my head cold recently... it was miraculous.  Cold was completely gone 
in 2 days felt better almost immediately after using the machine.  No 
side effects whatsoever and easy to use.  Here is a link for the device.


http://www.pyroenergen.com/

Dick Lloyd Ph.D has also used this machine successfully.

Good luck.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Teri Johnston t...@welshspringers.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:04 AM
Subject: CSCansema Thank You


First I wish to thank each and everyone of you who responded to my 
questions. As far as testimonials goes I do understand the danger of this. 
I have started Gary on a Burdock/Dandelion/Echinacea tea  this week as I'm 
awaiting arrival of the organic herbs I've ordered to make Essaic tea and 
the black salve.  I would like to also to say that the many things I have 
learned over the past couple of years on this list has been wonderful.


Personally Gary was treated with the poisons Peg Intron and Rebetol for 
Hep C before I leaned about CS.  He tested positive for Hep C after the 
FDNY gave him the Hep B vaccine. I suspect the vaccine is what set off all 
of his health problems. Now this T Cell Lymphoma could be trying to flush 
those other poisons out of his system


The diet changes are difficult but we are making them.

Thanks Again,
Teri


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CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread ransley


Teri wrote:
There are no testimonials on the site for me to read.

And you can bet there won't be.

Anyone who posts testimonials about anything medically alternative will
suffer the fate of the fellow who sold Cansema: Jail, or at least being
totally hounded out of business and even home.
We're own our own, and we even have to be careful that we say mostly things
that are our own experience, without telling others what to do, or we may
become targets too.

DB



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CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread ransley
I should have clarified that: Anyone who SELLS alternative
substances/therapies and posts testimonials about their medical use

I'm just so glad I got on to the internet in time to see what has happened
with my own eyes. only 5 years ago, there was S much more information.

DB


Teri wrote:
There are no testimonials on the site for me to read.

And you can bet there won't be.

Anyone who posts testimonials about anything medically alternative will
suffer the fate of the fellow who sold Cansema: Jail, or at least being
totally hounded out of business and even home.
We're own our own, and we even have to be careful that we say mostly things
that are our own experience, without telling others what to do, or we may
become targets too.

DB



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RE: CSCansema

2005-03-03 Thread Ed Kasper
regarding essiac tea  a very good source of non-commercial information is
available at http://essiac-info.org/
they do some comparison of various outfits as well as some common advice.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.


  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:13 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCansema


  In a message dated 3/3/05 1:24:27 AM Central Standard Time,
rainelov...@sbcglobal.net writes:



The appointment was 2 weeks away, so in the meantime I took Essiac Tea
(Flor-Essence). By the time my appt. rolled around all spots and the
abnormal mole, were gone and I cancelled it.


  OK -- now I need information for me!!  I've got a couple of moles that I'd
like to see disappear.  What is Essiac Tea and/or Flor-Essence and where
would I get that?   Thanks. MA


RE: CSCansema: NOW Ph testing-why?

2005-03-03 Thread Himagain

At 06:30 PM 03/03/05, you wrote:

I have a question on your cancer pH 
RE:   SECOND. Test her Ph.  If over 6.8 she does not have Cancer - merely a
tumour -
please elaborate more on this. or refer me to a site if this goes too far
OT. or email me e...@happyherbalist.com
test pH of blood, salvia, sweat or urine?


This is a quickie test for people who are told they have Cancer.  A 
horrific time!
Wrong diagnoses are as high as 38% average in the Cancervivor stats  and 
now admitted as high as 50% in female Breast Cancer.
All genuine Cancer sufferers have high acid Ph.   It doesn't necessarily 
mean they are mestasising at the time, merely that they are asking for 
it.  ANYONE with acid Ph is already in trouble, healthwise.


PH of blood is best, of course, but a crosscheck of urine and saliva taken 
3 times over 24 hours - being very aware of what has been ingested ( best 
nothing at all, but as we know people would STARVE TO DEATH in 24 HOURS)
Best starter Site and leads to overall serious researchers of resources is 
here:

http://www.fablor.com/matrixide/library/intro-cancer.rtf

There are THOUSANDS of stories/resources out there until August.

Cheers,
Himagain




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Re: CSCansema: NOW Ph testing-why?

2005-03-03 Thread T J Garland
Google Carey Reams  and Reams testing. I believe Terry Chamberlin uses it.
TJ
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSCansema: NOW Ph testing-why?


 At 06:30 PM 03/03/05, you wrote:
 I have a question on your cancer pH 
 RE:   SECOND. Test her Ph.  If over 6.8 she does not have Cancer - merely
a
 tumour -
 please elaborate more on this. or refer me to a site if this goes too far
 OT. or email me e...@happyherbalist.com
 test pH of blood, salvia, sweat or urine?

 This is a quickie test for people who are told they have Cancer.  A
 horrific time!
 Wrong diagnoses are as high as 38% average in the Cancervivor stats  and
 now admitted as high as 50% in female Breast Cancer.
 All genuine Cancer sufferers have high acid Ph.   It doesn't necessarily
 mean they are mestasising at the time, merely that they are asking for
 it.  ANYONE with acid Ph is already in trouble, healthwise.

 PH of blood is best, of course, but a crosscheck of urine and saliva taken
 3 times over 24 hours - being very aware of what has been ingested ( best
 nothing at all, but as we know people would STARVE TO DEATH in 24 HOURS)
 Best starter Site and leads to overall serious researchers of resources is
 here:
 http://www.fablor.com/matrixide/library/intro-cancer.rtf

 There are THOUSANDS of stories/resources out there until August.

 Cheers,
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CScancer

2005-03-03 Thread Betsy Coffey
There has been alot of research on cancer treatments
regarding raising the body temperature or inducing
artificial fevers. They are able to do this at some of
the holistic clinics. I dont know how a lay person in
their home could do it . It would seem difficult to
induce a fever yourself. YOu could raise the outer
body temperature but I think that it is the core
temperature that kills cancer,bugs etc.




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Re: CScancer

2005-03-03 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
A friend of mine explored this therapeutic approach with his terminally 
ill wife.   She used a small infrared sauna, and took capsules of some 
sort of blue-green algae.   My friend claimed that some researchers in 
Ireland had proven that this therapy would destroy cancer.
Supposedly the algae would be taken up into the cancer cells, and the 
IR radiation/heat would destroy the cells.This was a very 
late-stage case and perhaps nothing could have helped;  I do not think 
the sauna effort was very useful for his wife.   It certainly seems 
worth further exploration, however.




On Friday, Mar 4, 2005, at 12:20 Asia/Tokyo, Betsy Coffey wrote:


There has been alot of research on cancer treatments
regarding raising the body temperature or inducing
artificial fevers. They are able to do this at some of
the holistic clinics. I dont know how a lay person in
their home could do it . It would seem difficult to
induce a fever yourself. YOu could raise the outer
body temperature but I think that it is the core
temperature that kills cancer,bugs etc.




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CSA consensus site about CS.

2005-03-03 Thread Himagain

Hi folks,
In order to eliminate any charge of bias :-)  . there are two 
FABLOR publications coming up in which CS is going to be mentioned - not 
exhaustively, mentioned - and I'd like a consensus as to where to send a 
beginner - a real tyro with no prior knowledge.


Where was your most useful start point?  Not highly technical, but user 
friendly.


Thanks,
Himagain


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CSre(2): CSPHN

2005-03-03 Thread V.Jean.G.
 Zonman:
I need to clarify my comments on shingles. I agree, there's a cure for
everything that hasn't exceeded the point of no return. Ramsay-Hunt
Syndrome is no different; however, when RHS is merely ignored since 1907
and no research of any kind, how can there ever be a cure for a disease
that maimes, disables and kills equals to Aids? I've spoken to
university professors but all say this disease is too complex and
instead opt to study the easy things. As you know, pharmaceutical
companies would lose billions if a cure to the common cold (a virus)
were found. Many complications come from a cold.  Same scenario for
Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein
Barr, etc, etc.  I know people who first contracted shingles as a
teenager and still fighting it at age 80.  They've tried everything
available to them  without success. I don't doubt the many who've said
CS has helped them; however, once CS is stopped, or any other Western or
alternative medicine, the symptoms always return and the virus remains.
There can be no cures to these diseases unless there's research on the
thousands of viruses out there. There are eight categories of viruses.
With all due respect, you have your opinion and I have mine.

V.Jean.G.


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Re: CSPHN

2005-03-03 Thread V.Jean.G.
Hi Himagain:
Is there really no cure for cancer, or because the pharmaceutical
companies don't want a cure? The love of money is the root of all evil.

V.Jean.G.


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Re: CSlast on mammography and tests....

2005-03-03 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Regarding mammograms and biopsy:the bi-digital o-ring test 
developed by Y. Omura M.D.  would, if exploited by trained doctors and 
clinicians, provide a cheap, non-invasive, and reliable way to diagnose 
breast cancer and many other forms of cancer. The archives has 
links to sources of information about Omura's test.







On Wednesday, Feb 23, 2005, at 08:07 Asia/Tokyo, Himagain wrote:


Hi folks,
QUOTE:
One of today's most acclaimed cancer experts,
Dr. Michael Baum of University College Hospital, London, recently 
announced

that 'I think there is a deception going on.' Very simply, the latest
statistics show that mammograms don't save lives. And half of all women
diagnosed with 'early breast cancer' may be having mastectomies for 
nothing.

END QUOTE
HALF OF ALL MASTECTOMIES ARE FOR NO REASON AT ALL.
HALF!
And the female breast Cancer is probably the easiest Cancer of all to 
detect.
And in America they do about twice the rate as in the 
UK  it's big business!


As this is dangerous waters, no further correspondence will be  
entered into on this point.

I'm not very brave and I like my retired-type lifestyle in paradise.

Sadly, I ate the last of my mangoes this morning end of 
season.  BTW:  I wouldn't eat anything that was out-of-season these 
days.  2 reasons:

1.  Gets very expensive vs very cheap when in season.
2.  The things they now DO to store them!  A whole explanation of the 
allergies/sinusitises pandemic on its own!


Cheers,
Himagain.  As far away as he can get from city non-life. Thinking of 
going further




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RE: CScancer

2005-03-03 Thread Ed Kasper
I would be interested in the research on cancer and inducing fevers. If
possible please post the reference sites.


Many Chinese herbs and formulas are being studied specifically for cancers.
Xiao Chai Hu Tang for liver cancer is in FDA approved second stage clinical
trials. That herbal formula is a classical harmonizing formula. One of the
Traditional Chinese Medicine's treatment methods.  sweating is another
form of treatment to expel a pathogen. It is used in exterior conditions
when a pathogen first enters the body, like in a common cold. And in late
stages as the pathogen is being expelled by other factors and assists by
expressing the pathogen via sweating out through the pores of the skin.
There are many Chinese herbal formulas and recommendation that achieve this.
The sweat produced is only a mild sweat as a heavy sweat like in a sauna or
sweat lodge, is too damaging to the body (and in the case of cancer where
the body is already weakened a heavy sweat would be contraindicated)
Another method is the use of purgatives. This expels the pathogen out
through the stool. Used when the pathogen is deeper in the body. Although
not a specific Chinese herbal formula, essiac tea, follows this method in
treatment of cancers.

Interesting thought.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.


-Original Message-
From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScancer


There has been alot of research on cancer treatments
regarding raising the body temperature or inducing
artificial fevers. They are able to do this at some of
the holistic clinics. I dont know how a lay person in
their home could do it . It would seem difficult to
induce a fever yourself. YOu could raise the outer
body temperature but I think that it is the core
temperature that kills cancer,bugs etc.



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RE: CSre(2): CSPHN

2005-03-03 Thread Ed Kasper
How does CS work ?
most say by killing all single cell organism. This is western thinking. And
the downfall is that it works and it doesn't work. It is not whether either
may be proven but in our understanding of what is happening that is
important.
Western medicinal thinking is tunnel vision based upon the single germ
theory. It is not scientifically looking for answers. It is focused on
proving its single germ theory.  It works and it doesn't work - but 'they
will not admit that simply saying we need more research.

TCM, Chinese Medicine = Pleomorphism:  the concept that cells/diseases, and
especially one-celled microorganisms,  can change to cells/diseases of
another type.  For example Pleomorphism in human cells might be the morphing
of skin cells to connective tissue cells, or of blood cells to bone tissue.
In TCM  -  Wood to Fire to Earth to Metal to Water. Cold to Heat, Damp to
Dryness a constant ebb and flow.  My thinking would say that CS works via
Pleomorphism: returning the environment to a more natural state and
therefore not receptive to what western theory calls germs / diseases.

http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm
http://www.whale.to/p/bird.html

think outside the box.
Newton, Einstein, Pasteur ...
and do not be limited to everything you've been told.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.



-Original Message-
From: V.Jean.G. [mailto:tijua...@webtv.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSre(2): CSPHN


 Zonman:
I need to clarify my comments on shingles. I agree, there's a cure for
everything that hasn't exceeded the point of no return. Ramsay-Hunt
Syndrome is no different; however, when RHS is merely ignored since 1907
and no research of any kind, how can there ever be a cure for a disease
that maimes, disables and kills equals to Aids? I've spoken to
university professors but all say this disease is too complex and
instead opt to study the easy things. As you know, pharmaceutical
companies would lose billions if a cure to the common cold (a virus)
were found. Many complications come from a cold.  Same scenario for
Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein
Barr, etc, etc.  I know people who first contracted shingles as a
teenager and still fighting it at age 80.  They've tried everything
available to them  without success. I don't doubt the many who've said
CS has helped them; however, once CS is stopped, or any other Western or
alternative medicine, the symptoms always return and the virus remains.
There can be no cures to these diseases unless there's research on the
thousands of viruses out there. There are eight categories of viruses.
With all due respect, you have your opinion and I have mine.

V.Jean.G.



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CSRe[2]: CSre(2): CSPHN

2005-03-03 Thread V
Hi Ed,

Yes that is correct. I reality the vast majority of bacteria and similar 
creatures are beneficial in some way. to all other creatures and the earth. 
killing them indiscriminately like most humans seem to want to do will create 
major problems at some point. There will be a time when you will pay big money 
just to get a small container of assorted bacteria for your own survival. we 
cant live without them. All the stuff you hear on the news about E, coli and 
salmonella etc etc is all a load of bull. Its not the bacteria that cause 
disease it the chemical imbalance of the body that attracts them to do their 
jobs. their jobs is to clean up the environment and decompose dead organic 
matter. so if you keep a lot of dead organic matter in your body like most 
people do then the bacteria come to clean it up. the act of cleaning it up is 
what we call being sick or having a disease. A perfect analogy is when flies 
are attracted to garbage, you can kill all the flies but the garbage remains 
there and will attract more flies. Killing the flies will not clean up the 
garbage, but that is how modern medicine approches the problem. How many times 
have you heard a medical doctor prescribe a colonic as the first remedy for any 
patient?

The medical establishment is going for a big fall. their whole outfit is going 
to collapse into a big dust heap with a resounding crash. And on that day the 
rate of death and disease will remarkable reverse itself. Then those 250,000 
people they kill every year will will drop drastically in number.  

http://www.health-freedom.info/iatro/index.htm

http://biomedx.com/microscopes/rrintro/rr1.htmlBlood Ph info
http://www.expo-net.org/PasteurBechamp.html



Take care,
 V


 How does CS work ?
 most say by killing all single cell organism. This is western thinking. And
 the downfall is that it works and it doesn't work. It is not whether either
 may be proven but in our understanding of what is happening that is
 important.
 Western medicinal thinking is tunnel vision based upon the single germ
 theory. It is not scientifically looking for answers. It is focused on
 proving its single germ theory.  It works and it doesn't work - but 'they
 will not admit that simply saying we need more research.

 TCM, Chinese Medicine = Pleomorphism:  the concept that cells/diseases, and
 especially one-celled microorganisms,  can change to cells/diseases of
 another type.  For example Pleomorphism in human cells might be the morphing
 of skin cells to connective tissue cells, or of blood cells to bone tissue.
 In TCM  -  Wood to Fire to Earth to Metal to Water. Cold to Heat, Damp to
 Dryness a constant ebb and flow.  My thinking would say that CS works via
 Pleomorphism: returning the environment to a more natural state and
 therefore not receptive to what western theory calls germs / diseases.

 http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm
 http://www.whale.to/p/bird.html

 think outside the box.
 Newton, Einstein, Pasteur ...
 and do not be limited to everything you've been told.

 Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
 Acupuncture is a jab well done
 www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.



 -Original Message-
 From: V.Jean.G. [mailto:tijua...@webtv.net]
 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:32 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSre(2): CSPHN


  Zonman:
 I need to clarify my comments on shingles. I agree, there's a cure for
 everything that hasn't exceeded the point of no return. Ramsay-Hunt
 Syndrome is no different; however, when RHS is merely ignored since 1907
 and no research of any kind, how can there ever be a cure for a disease
 that maimes, disables and kills equals to Aids? I've spoken to
 university professors but all say this disease is too complex and
 instead opt to study the easy things. As you know, pharmaceutical
 companies would lose billions if a cure to the common cold (a virus)
 were found. Many complications come from a cold.  Same scenario for
 Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein
 Barr, etc, etc.  I know people who first contracted shingles as a
 teenager and still fighting it at age 80.  They've tried everything
 available to them  without success. I don't doubt the many who've said
 CS has helped them; however, once CS is stopped, or any other Western or
 alternative medicine, the symptoms always return and the virus remains.
 There can be no cures to these diseases unless there's research on the
 thousands of viruses out there. There are eight categories of viruses.
 With all due respect, you have your opinion and I have mine.

 V.Jean.G.



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