Re: CScomplicated explanations about cs
Betsy, I feel confident in saying the following, from a long time spent on this list, and I am sure that no one on the lists will contradict me: Quality, home-made electrically isolated silver, made using a well-made low-voltage device such as the Silvergen SG6 or the SilverPuppy works very well. These devices produce both ionic and colloidal silver in an 80/20 or 90/10 ratio, approximately. This is a dispute about which is the active (or more active) component. It is a very contentious dispute, with many facts going back and forth. It is difficult for anyone lacking a PhD in colloid chemistry to follow. If you make EIS and check with a simple laser pointer for the Tyndall effect you will see a veritable constellation of silver particles in homemade EIS. It is like the Milky Way. If particles are the essential component, there are plenty of them. If ions, there are far more of those, though you can not see them. Even scientist Frank Key, an advocate of particles, states that quality EIS is effective insofar as it contains particles, which it does, and that the ionic component, which he says become silver chloride, is not a serious risk factor for argyria. If you want to get rid of the ionic component -- which is not something you need to do -- there is a simple method in the archives for using salt to do so.Ignore this unless you want to do some experimenting. This information should be helpful to you, I think. I tried to keep it short and sweet. JBB On Wednesday, Mar 30, 2005, at 16:06 Asia/Tokyo, Betsy Coffey wrote: although I enjoy much of what is posted here even if it is technical(I am trying to learn from all of this), I have to agree with Thom. As much as I consider the technical discussion educational and I welcome it, it would also be nice to have some simple explanations about how cs works and which ones are most effective. For some of us batteling serious health problems, it is important to get some plain facts. I am still confused about EIS,meosilver,argentyn, and ASAP. These seem to be mentioned lately and I would like opinions about whether or not they are safe, and effective for infection or yeast. I have read many of the posts about them and feel more confused than ever. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlyme mom SPEAKING OF LYME!!
Hope you'll allow some homeopathy her, Mike I was re-reading some issues of Homeopathy Today and in the Sept/94 issue this: An article by S.Tobin, DMV who talks of treating several hundred cases of Lyme dise, ..found considerable success using Ledum [1M potency] in dogs n cats n horses. No matter if recent/yr.old infection, all responded curatively. I have not had a single case that did not improve. Tobin also reported success using Borrellia burgdorferi nosode as both a preventative and curative. Tobin reports he does not treat humanoids but has reports from several that have had amazing success with these homeopathics. do Googles on these, and check at: http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Led davido
Re: CSlyme mom
Hi GMetropulo. I have heard of sucess storys at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?yguid=117950466 And also using DMSO at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ Both are yahoo groups, you will need to join. They are both excellent groups. I wish and hope for you the Strength to carry on. If you need anything let me know, I dont have much but am willing to share. I belong to both groups under the same name ( onelandrum )look under members. Sam L. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScomplicated explanations about cs
Re: CScomplicated explanations about cs From: Jonathan B. Britten Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:15:17 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79187.html Betsy, I feel confident in saying the following, from a long time spent on this list, and I am sure that no one on the lists will contradict me: Quality, home-made electrically isolated silver, made using a well-made low-voltage device such as the Silvergen SG6 or the SilverPuppy works very well. These devices produce both ionic and colloidal silver in an 80/20 or 90/10 ratio, approximately. This is a dispute about which is the active (or more active) component. It is a very contentious dispute, with many facts going back and forth. It is difficult for anyone lacking a PhD in colloid chemistry to follow. If you make EIS and check with a simple laser pointer for the Tyndall effect you will see a veritable constellation of silver particles in homemade EIS. It is like the Milky Way. If particles are the essential component, there are plenty of them. If ions, there are far more of those, though you can not see them. Even scientist Frank Key, an advocate of particles, states that quality EIS is effective insofar as it contains particles, which it does, and that the ionic component, which he says become silver chloride, is not a serious risk factor for argyria. If you want to get rid of the ionic component - which is not something you need to do - there is a simple method in the archives for using salt to do so. Ignore this unless you want to do some experimenting. This information should be helpful to you, I think. I tried to keep it short and sweet. JBB Hi Jonathan, This is an excellent outline of the basic issues. However, there is new information on particles that should be considered. Contrary to long-held assumptions, the black/brown particles produced during silver electrolysis are silver hydroxide. These show up as Tyndall effect, coat the electrodes with a soft black/brown powder, and give the characteristic yellow tint to cs. Silver hydroxide is inert and insoluble. It has no biological value. Please see http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79117.html http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78851.html Thus, the only component in cs that has any value is the ions. The higher the ion content, the better it works. Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLuz and Faith
Have you ever thought about planting a coconut? Who knows ... I can grow bananas in New Have you ever thought of growing a coconut? Who knows it might work. All you need is dirt ... and worms, and of course a coconut. elle From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:51:10 -5 Jungle Jim's in Fairfield Ohio ... Choose a coconut with the Green husk present That's what I'm talking about Al. Thanks. All the coconuts I've seen so far seem ancient. Each one I've tapped or split has been rancid or soapy tasting. If I can find relatively young ones, that would be worth a bit of a drive. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Looking for love? Check out XtraMSN Personals http://xtramsn.match.com/match/mt.cfm?pg=channeltcid=200731
Re: CSLuz and Faith
sorry, I don't understand the sour cream bit Faith From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:09:31 -0400 So that the sour cream does not get sourer !!! Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: CStokkin' 'bout yer levellll Luz and Faith
My Dear Forim, Dear Mr. Mike, Yf zissi ze level of thy interchange, I'd rather out myself of zis lissst fast Thankyu bye Faith From: elle roberts elle_robe...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:44:54 + Have you ever thought about planting a coconut? Who knows ... I can grow bananas in New Have you ever thought of growing a coconut? Who knows it might work. All you need is dirt ... and worms, and of course a coconut. elle From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:51:10 -5 Jungle Jim's in Fairfield Ohio ... Choose a coconut with the Green husk present That's what I'm talking about Al. Thanks. All the coconuts I've seen so far seem ancient. Each one I've tapped or split has been rancid or soapy tasting. If I can find relatively young ones, that would be worth a bit of a drive. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Looking for love? Check out XtraMSN Personals http://xtramsn.match.com/match/mt.cfm?pg=channeltcid=200731 _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/
Re: CSLuz and Faith
.. we, on a coconut irland, just peel the whole thing off, then dram the thing on a hard surface, and presto! Also: one of the three eyes on top is always smooth, and easily perforated. You pierce that one to have the milk (liquid) out, to drink, then break the nut. Faith From: Albert Peirce aepei...@cinci.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:48:07 -0500 Jungle Jim's in Fairfield Ohio. Don't expect it to be easy unless you have more than average skills wielding a machete. The easiest way is probably using an electric drill and ordinary metal bit and drilling into the nut on the stem side ( Choose a coconut with the Green husk present- the bare nut is easier but it is from a mature coconut and the milk is very unappealing as the fats/oils have already been converted into the familiar hard white copra.) Green coconut milk is still very rich and the meat is still forming and is soft and can be spooned out to eat. I won't tell what it's called colloquially in Central America! Break the Whole thing up with an axe on a wood surface, or use a sledgehammer on your concrete driveway, after you have salvaged the milk. Regards, Al Peirce Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Ahhh, and where to get a *fresh* coconut here in the midwestern US? sigh Mike D. On another list there has been a discussion of ridding cataracts with the juice of a fresh coconut applied as an eyewash. Reported results were excellent and pretty much immediate. sounds like it would be right up your alley. BTW, Welcome Chuck If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Only .. in three days I shall be operated on my right eye for cataracts (obscuring of the eye lenses) and then a week later on the other eye. This was the one thing I could not heal with Urine Therapy, although I was well on my way! These operations will take me off the computer for quite some time. When back, I shall simply repeat this introduction, and GO again. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: CSLuz and Faith
.. again .. I get a bit frustrated at this level of interchange .. communication .. even after having read the netyquette. Take care, Faith From: elle roberts elle_robe...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:44:54 + Have you ever thought about planting a coconut? Who knows ... I can grow bananas in New Have you ever thought of growing a coconut? Who knows it might work. All you need is dirt ... and worms, and of course a coconut. elle From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:51:10 -5 Jungle Jim's in Fairfield Ohio ... Choose a coconut with the Green husk present That's what I'm talking about Al. Thanks. All the coconuts I've seen so far seem ancient. Each one I've tapped or split has been rancid or soapy tasting. If I can find relatively young ones, that would be worth a bit of a drive. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Looking for love? Check out XtraMSN Personals http://xtramsn.match.com/match/mt.cfm?pg=channeltcid=200731 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: CSetiquette on the Network
.. again .. I get a bit frustrated at this level of interchange .. communication .. even after having read the netyquette rules of the Silver List. Take care, Faith From: elle roberts elle_robe...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:44:54 + Have you ever thought about planting a coconut? Who knows ... I can grow bananas in New Have you ever thought of growing a coconut? Who knows it might work. All you need is dirt ... and worms, and of course a coconut. elle From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:51:10 -5 Jungle Jim's in Fairfield Ohio ... Choose a coconut with the Green husk present That's what I'm talking about Al. Thanks. All the coconuts I've seen so far seem ancient. Each one I've tapped or split has been rancid or soapy tasting. If I can find relatively young ones, that would be worth a bit of a drive. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Looking for love? Check out XtraMSN Personals http://xtramsn.match.com/match/mt.cfm?pg=channeltcid=200731 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
CS
Hello Mike D. Thanks again for your clear reply of yesterday. About the website of Special Energy Products, where I bought my CS generator: actually I have no idea how to copy a page from a website to an emailaddress. But I think it wouldn't make anything clearer anyway, because they give no technical info about their CS generator, the Electrolyser. And the illustration of the generator doesn't say anything either: it's just a flat rectangular box of about 12 x 6 cm. with two holes for the silver electrodes and a small lightpoint that goes on as soon as the silverelectrodes (one with a red, one with a black plastic top) hit the water . I have to swap these two electrodes around every time after using it. To prevent the generator from falling into the glass jar (as I have to leave it flat on the top of the jar, so that the electrodes can touch the water almost complety) I made a top for the jar of a piece of strong carton, cut a hole in the middle, to stick the electrodes through it, and now the Electrolyser lays flat and safely on the carton top. I did get a leaflet with info (only in Dutch I am afraid) though, but this mainly describes what CS can do. It does mention though that the generator has to do with Bob Beck. The power supply is a 9 volt flat battery, only one. No mains power, I can only use it on this battery. No, they didn't tell me to add anything to the distilled water. 35 Minutes could also be with 50% of the water (= half a litre) heated, but I have also tried with 100% cold water, straight from the bottle with sterilised water, and the result was: a cristal clear, colourless CS (whereas with 50% heated water, I got light yellow CS, probably because of the kettle). I used a penlite battery light, to shine in the CS when I hold the glass jar in the dark, and I saw beautiful silver and other coloured particles, not that the CS was loaded with it, but still plenty to see. I did use this homebrewed CS (based on sterilised water) already since the last ten days or so, for instance in my eyes - and I still can see o.k., so it shouldn't be too bad! Also I cleaned the bathroom and toilet with it (this was CS I made with tapwater, which was rather white cloudy or misty, so I didn't want to ingest it), and now after a few days, it is still all nice and fresh there, just the same as if I used the ordinary cleaning products. I also use CS (based on sterilised water) as a deodorant, and it does what it should do. But I understand from your reaction that you wonder if 35 minutes is too short a time, to make strong enough CS. Is it advisable to experiment with a longer 'brewing' time? Although I must say that the instructions with the Electrolyser specifically say that 35 minutes is long enough. But like you say also, The bottom line is that without a lot of expense, you will never know exactly how much silver you've got in your water, but it really doesn't matter, because the proof is in the use. Although, you also warned to make sure that I don't react badly for any reason. Is it possible then that CS can have side effects? What could they be, apart from getting a blue skin (Argyria or something like that?). I also am giving it to my horse, pony and dog. Can they have any side effects from drinking CS? Thank you for your help! Erna
CS
Betsy said, ..it would also be nice to have some simple explanations about how cs works and which ones are most effective. I am still confused about EIS, meosilver, argentyn and ASAP.. In our struggle to simplify and identify the components of effective CS brewing and usage (along with the human inclination to plug one's product), it's easy to forget (or not notice) the basics: Silver, the metal, is fatal to bacteria, viruses and fungi. When you consider that the royalty in Europe ground up silver into powder and drank it in liquid, to good effect (what percentage of that was ionic?), most any method using electricity that any of us are doing today is just fine. The questions, Which type of CS is the best? or, Which CS-brewer is the best? become relevant only in terms of How fast does it make it or How much does it make at a time or How much does it cost, not How effective is it? Although some folks will say that they had better success resolving their health issue using this brand than that brand, or this ppm than that ppm, someone else will say just the opposite. What does it all mean? As Brooks Bradley recently posted, Our research has, categorically, confirmed that it is quite DIFFICULT to manufacture an electrically isolated colloidal silver THAT IS NOT EFFECTIVE as a bacterial/viral control agent.. Both UCLA School of Medicine and Brigham Young University had amazing results using 2-1/2 ppm and 5 ppm. Or as Bob Beck said, When you control a source of pennies-per-gallon make-it-yourself high concentration Colloidal Silver you can use it for hundreds of health improvement applications. If you are using three 9-volt batteries, you may need to simply drink more to get the same affect as the expensive stuff, but so what? In my own mind, unless it's 1 or 2 ppm CS that you would need to drown in, freely using CS is a very empowering experience in life. Let me quote from Bob Beck again: A FEW UNIQUE PLUS TRADITIONAL USES FOR COLLOIDAL SILVER When you control a source of pennies-per-gallon make-it-yourself high concentration Colloidal Silver you can use it for hundreds of health improvement applications. A few are suggested here. You can use most any non-chlorinated water to make silver colloid for industrial and external uses and distilled or de-ionized water for internal or injectable applications. Add to suspected drinking water when traveling or camping. Silver-sprayed burns heal rapidly without scarring. Safely sterilize anything from toothbrushes to surgical instruments. Use topically on cuts, wounds, abrasions, rashes, sunburn, razor nicks and bandages. Spray on garbage to prevent decay odors. Mist kitchen sponges, towels, cutting boards to eliminate E. Coli and salmonella bacteria to prevent food poisoning, gastrointestinal inflammation, and genital tract infections. Add when canning, preserving or bottling. Use like peroxide on zits and acne. Add to juices and milk to prevent spoiling, fermenting, deteriorating, clabbering or curdling. Spray in shoes, between toes, between legs to stop most skin itch, athletes foot, fungi, jock itch. Diminish dandruff, psoriasis, skin rashes, etc. Add to bath water, gargle, douches, colon irrigation, nasal spray and dental water-pic solutions. Cuts downtime dramatically from colds, flu, pneumonia, staph, strep, respiratory infections and rhino viruses. Skin itch, eye and ear infections, some moles and warts vanish (put on bandaid and wear overnight each night until gone). Spray on body after bathing. Use with Q-tips on fingernail, toenail, and ear fungi. Neutralize tooth decay and bad breath. Silver stops halitosis by eliminating bacteria deep in throat and on back of tongue. Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics, Colloidal Silver never permits strain-resistant pathogens to evolve. Put a on bandaids and bandages to shorten healing times. Health professionals might consider IV and IM injections. Tumor and polyp shrinking is reported when masses are injected directly (when silver is added to sterile physiological saline or Ringer's Solution that contains 9000 ppm sodium chloride). Toothaches, mouth sores, bacterial irritations are diminished. Soak dentures. Spray refrigerator, freezer and food storage bin interiors. Stop mildew and wood rot. Mix in postage stamp, envelope, and tape moistening wells, paint and paste pots to prevent bacterial growth, odors, spoiling or souring. Add to water based paints, wallpaper paste, dishwater, cleaning and mopping solutions, etc. Spray pet bedding and let dry. Spray on top of contents of opened jam, jelly, and condiment containers and inside lids before replacing. Mix a little in pet water, birdbaths, cut flower vases. Always add to swamp cooler water. Spray air conditioner filters after cleaning. Swab air ducts and vents to prevent breeding sites for germs. Use routinely in laundry final rinse water and always before packing away seasonal clothes. Damp clothes or towels and washcloths will not sour or mildew. Eliminate
RE: CS no problems, only solutions
Hello to my Dutch compatriots! Gaat het goed? Lijkt me van wel, of niet soms? I have done as follows (inspired a long time ago by this Forum's Marshalee, who's name to my happiness appears here still, greetya, Marshalee) Simply buy a 9 volts battery, obtain two electrical wires with crocodile beaks on both sides. Have two silver (real silver) wires of approximately 10 cm. which you curve on the ends, to hang them in a glass. Connect the silver wires to the battery with the electrical wires, and leave reacting for some 30 minutes. I cleanse the greyish layer on the wire from the + pole after each turn by rubbing it with a tiny little bit of colgate between the fingers, then go for the next glassfull. For water I use mineral water, although pipe-water from our area is said to be the cleanest in the world. For any comments on this method, to easy to believe, I have my doors wide open. I have splendid results, and we share our CS with any client open minded enough to try. Methinks there's no problem with any sophisticated machinery, only, if the wallet is thin (as ours was) and the need is great, one goes for solutions, not for problems, right? Love you all, Greet you all, Faith From: Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans libra...@planet.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:44:05 +0200 Hello Mike D. Thanks again for your clear reply of yesterday. About the website of Special Energy Products, where I bought my CS generator: actually I have no idea how to copy a page from a website to an emailaddress. But I think it wouldn't make anything clearer anyway, because they give no technical info about their CS generator, the Electrolyser. And the illustration of the generator doesn't say anything either: it's just a flat rectangular box of about 12 x 6 cm. with two holes for the silver electrodes and a small lightpoint that goes on as soon as the silverelectrodes (one with a red, one with a black plastic top) hit the water . I have to swap these two electrodes around every time after using it. To prevent the generator from falling into the glass jar (as I have to leave it flat on the top of the jar, so that the electrodes can touch the water almost complety) I made a top for the jar of a piece of strong carton, cut a hole in the middle, to stick the electrodes through it, and now the Electrolyser lays flat and safely on the carton top. I did get a leaflet with info (only in Dutch I am afraid) though, but this mainly describes what CS can do. It does mention though that the generator has to do with Bob Beck. The power supply is a 9 volt flat battery, only one. No mains power, I can only use it on this battery. No, they didn't tell me to add anything to the distilled water. 35 Minutes could also be with 50% of the water (= half a litre) heated, but I have also tried with 100% cold water, straight from the bottle with sterilised water, and the result was: a cristal clear, colourless CS (whereas with 50% heated water, I got light yellow CS, probably because of the kettle). I used a penlite battery light, to shine in the CS when I hold the glass jar in the dark, and I saw beautiful silver and other coloured particles, not that the CS was loaded with it, but still plenty to see. I did use this homebrewed CS (based on sterilised water) already since the last ten days or so, for instance in my eyes - and I still can see o.k., so it shouldn't be too bad! Also I cleaned the bathroom and toilet with it (this was CS I made with tapwater, which was rather white cloudy or misty, so I didn't want to ingest it), and now after a few days, it is still all nice and fresh there, just the same as if I used the ordinary cleaning products. I also use CS (based on sterilised water) as a deodorant, and it does what it should do. But I understand from your reaction that you wonder if 35 minutes is too short a time, to make strong enough CS. Is it advisable to experiment with a longer 'brewing' time? Although I must say that the instructions with the Electrolyser specifically say that 35 minutes is long enough. But like you say also, The bottom line is that without a lot of expense, you will never know exactly how much silver you've got in your water, but it really doesn't matter, because the proof is in the use. Although, you also warned to make sure that I don't react badly for any reason. Is it possible then that CS can have side effects? What could they be, apart from getting a blue skin (Argyria or something like that?). I also am giving it to my horse, pony and dog. Can they have any side effects from drinking CS? Thank you for your help! Erna _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for
RE: CS
Orchids to Terry Chamberlin! Thanks Terry for your excellent presentation that is expressed simple enough for each one and covers the basics shared by many of our other talented, experienced, generous Experts on this marvelous Site! I appreciate each and all of you--but reserve the right to ignore some of the ideas expressed so I can do it my way--which has proven results--that God has used to heal many problems including bladder cancer! I refer (with full credit to you) to the 3 pages of CS Uses on my Blogspot! Thank You! Thank You! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Betsy said, ..it would also be nice to have some simple explanations about how cs works and which ones are most effective. I am still confused about EIS, meosilver, argentyn and ASAP.. In our struggle to simplify and identify the components of effective CS brewing and usage (along with the human inclination to plug one's product), it's easy to forget (or not notice) the basics: Silver, the metal, is fatal to bacteria, viruses and fungi. When you consider that the royalty in Europe ground up silver into powder and drank it in liquid, to good effect (what percentage of that was ionic?), most any method using electricity that any of us are doing today is just fine. The questions, Which type of CS is the best? or, Which CS-brewer is the best? become relevant only in terms of How fast does it make it or How much does it make at a time or How much does it cost, not How effective is it? Although some folks will say that they had better success resolving their health issue using this brand than that brand, or this ppm than that ppm, someone else will say just the opposite. What does it all mean? As Brooks Bradley recently posted, Our research has, categorically, confirmed that it is quite DIFFICULT to manufacture an electrically isolated colloidal silver THAT IS NOT EFFECTIVE as a bacterial/viral control agent.. Both UCLA School of Medicine and Brigham Young University had amazing results using 2-1/2 ppm and 5 ppm. Or as Bob Beck said, When you control a source of pennies-per-gallon make-it-yourself high concentration Colloidal Silver you can use it for hundreds of health improvement applications. If you are using three 9-volt batteries, you may need to simply drink more to get the same affect as the expensive stuff, but so what? In my own mind, unless it's 1 or 2 ppm CS that you would need to drown in, freely using CS is a very empowering experience in life. Let me quote from Bob Beck again: A FEW UNIQUE PLUS TRADITIONAL USES FOR COLLOIDAL SILVER When you control a source of pennies-per-gallon make-it-yourself high concentration Colloidal Silver you can use it for hundreds of health improvement applications. A few are suggested here. You can use most any non-chlorinated water to make silver colloid for industrial and external uses and distilled or de-ionized water for internal or injectable applications. Add to suspected drinking water when traveling or camping. Silver-sprayed burns heal rapidly without scarring. Safely sterilize anything from toothbrushes to surgical instruments. Use topically on cuts, wounds, abrasions, rashes, sunburn, razor nicks and bandages. Spray on garbage to prevent decay odors. Mist kitchen sponges, towels, cutting boards to eliminate E. Coli and salmonella bacteria to prevent food poisoning, gastrointestinal inflammation, and genital tract infections. Add when canning, preserving or bottling. Use like peroxide on zits and acne. Add to juices and milk to prevent spoiling, fermenting, deteriorating, clabbering or curdling. Spray in shoes, between toes, between legs to stop most skin itch, athletes foot, fungi, jock itch. Diminish dandruff, psoriasis, skin rashes, etc. Add to bath water, gargle, douches, colon irrigation, nasal spray and dental water-pic solutions. Cuts downtime dramatically from colds, flu, pneumonia, staph, strep, respiratory infections and rhino viruses. Skin itch, eye and ear infections, some moles and warts vanish (put on bandaid and wear overnight each night until gone). Spray on body after bathing. Use with Q-tips on fingernail, toenail, and ear fungi. Neutralize tooth decay and bad breath. Silver stops halitosis by eliminating bacteria deep in throat and on back of tongue. Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics, Colloidal Silver never permits strain-resistant pathogens to evolve. Put a on bandaids and bandages to shorten healing times. Health professionals might consider IV and IM injections. Tumor and polyp shrinking is reported when masses are injected directly (when silver is added to sterile physiological saline or Ringer's Solution that contains
CSthe tooth that MUST be out
Greeting you, Company of Colloidal Silver! Although new to this forum, I would like to share this interesting sample of the stubbornness that established medicine (in this case dentistry) is capable of. See, I had this inflammation on my upper molar, the last in the row up-right. It got very painful, and I called my dentist: the receptionist got me an appointment. When I got there the lady dentist met me in the corridor, and already uttered to my great astonishment: We'll anaesthetize you, and then.. I interrupted: Dear, we are not going to pull, are we? (I was not even in the chair yet, she had not seen my mouth, she had not touched the molar, not taken any x ray, and yet, on word of the receptionist she was ready for extracting .. that was # 1). So she protested ..but you are in pain! Yep, and I came for counsel, not for tooth-players. Stubbornly she kept badgering that there was no cure and that extraction was the only solution. More or less to my own astonishment I heard myself say: One week, Doc. One week and there will be no more pain. Destiny had it that the left under tooth broke, and I needed (her) treatment. Meanwhile I had home-treated the other molar by rinsing my nasal cavity with my own water, I had drank a mouthful of colloidal silver three times a day, and had pressed the inside of my right ring finger (point upper teeth, three seconds method), where it was very painful. So I called the dentists for treatment of the one left-under, and got the appointment. Treatment was (without anesthesia necessary) done in twenty minutes. NOT A WORD (that was # 2) from this dentist about the right back upper molar .. which was by this time fully healed, gums and all. I never bothered telling her about the successful alternative treatment. Then .. that same left down last molar got inflamed. I went to sweet dentist again. Same Old Story! No comments, at once ready to extract. Yet .. this time she did take an ex-ray, and showed me, muttering about her twenty years experience, that there was indeed a good inflammation between the roots. A little black ball showed there. So now I mentioned the fully healed upper right tooth. She commented: Well, yeah .. I see .., but the flesh is still reddish and ill-looking. It was NOT. The tissue was hard, the circulation was good (and even today it is), and I have been without any sensation of pain or irritation since. (that was # 3) I shall not see this narrow-minded-ready-to-extract-mouth-smith again. I repeated the treatment for the left-under tooth, but for the Urine Therapy (the lower teeth cannot be reached by rinsing with urine, as is possible for the upper teeth). I drank bits of Colloidal Silver, pressed the tooth-point on the inside of the left ring finger. Yeah! In ONE week the pain, the inflammation was no more. And I saw another dentist who even treated it, and put a new layer of composite on. So yes, Colloidal Silver helped me in the healing of two teeth. And they are still in function. We have a long way to go, and well have to show a lot of goodwill. But that there are other ways of healing ourselves in the most diverse manners, of the most diverse ailings, is a fact. Love you all, Faith. _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal
Mike Monett wrote: Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal From: Marshall Dudley Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:52:19 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79146.html P.S. This is a repost - sympatico went clang again. Sorry if it is a duplicate. Dan Nave wrote: Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal From: Marshall Dudley wrote: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:53:24 M. G. Devour wrote: So we are left with the unanswered question of whether some mechanism exists by which silver chloride -- or whatever other as yet undetermined species might exist -- may form an effective fraction in the complex environment of the blood. YES YES YES YES! Why, then, do we not just use an appropriately small and diluted dose of silver chloride instead of going through all the trouble to make EIS? I had suggested this idea before but there was no comment... Because that can give you argyria, and if I am right about the conversion of silver salts to silver particles in the blood, produce a few ineffective huge particles of silver instead of trillions of extremely small effective ones. With EIS you get the nucleation sites for plate out in the brew. Marshall I am amused by the arguments produced recently. Silver ions are converted to silver chloride as soon as they encounter salt or hydrochloric acid in the body. There is no minimum solubility as Marshall proposes. It all gets converted to silver chloride. Where did I say it does not all get converted to silver chloride? Yes, it does all get converted to silver chloride. Also silver chloride is not totally soluble either, so there is limited solubility. We all know Stan Jones got Argyria from drinking large doses of silver chloride. When exposed to light, a photon knocks an electron free from the chlorine, and the silver ion grabs it. Both atoms are now free to go their separate ways, but the silver gets stuck in the tissues and turns your skin blue. So silver chloride is bad because it produces elemental silver particles in your body. Silver chloride will become metallic silver in the body, and will plate out on any particles that are present. As you say, Stan Jones is proof of that. That is why the particle portion of EIS is so important, so it will plate out on them making them slightly larger than on particles formed in the skin from photoreduction causing argyria. But then we read that ionic cs will not give you Argyria. Yes, I have explained this about a dozen times now. The colloidal portion of EIS acts as a prophylactic against argyria. Nothing unusual or unexpected here. Interesting. With all the cs we drink over the years, surely some of it must have stuck somewhere and we are all turning blue. But this contradiction is never resolved. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION! EVERYTHING IS AS EXPECTED FROM THEORY! The next thing we hear is Mesosilver is pure silver particles. Seems like we just decided silver particles are bad since they give you Argyria. It has to accumulate over time - the EPA and other organizations give maximum lifetime doses. But this contradiction is never resolved. Who just decided that? I think it was ONLY you. Argyria is caused by silver particles growing until they get stuck in the skin. Silver particles grow by the photo developing process from silver salts. Silver particles are already reduced, like a developed photo. A developed photo never gets darker, if anything they fade. It requires silver salts to produce argyria, not silver particles. If the particle is small enough to get into the body, then it is small enough to get out. Next we hear that Mesosilver is very effective in killing pathogens. It has to be true - the reports are publication quality. But the reports never tell us that the 20ppm Mesosilver has an ionic content of 3.9ppm. The reports also use a 75ppm version, but there is no information on the ionic content. There has to be some - but we don't know how much. So how do we know the killing results are not due to the ion content? The times listed are certainly long enough for silver ions to diffuse anywhere and slowly kill the pathogen. I believe that both kill, but there still needs to be more experimentation on this. The 75ppm product is not available commercially. Perhaps the reason is it definitely would produce Argyria. Can you tell me any way that particles of silver could cause argyria without becoming silver salts first? And any way that silver salts could cause argyria if there is a large amount of silver particles available for them to plate out on in the blood? Is it fair to use a non-available product to demonstrate the efficiency of the standard one? I don't think so. Next we hear that silver ions were never found in the
CSCS general explanation
Hello Terry Chamberlin, What a great piece of clear information you wrote earlier today, thank you very much! I have printed it out to keep it with the other info I gathered so far about CS. Especially what you wrote about the quality of water, that should be used to make CS, I found very revealing. Now it's clear to me that, because CS is a steriliser itself, that's why one can use it in dirty water, to make it clean again! That's also my main reason, to start making CS: I would like to clean the water from our well, so that it will be suitable even for drinking. But what I would like to ask is: Do you think CS will also be able to upgrade the pH value of this water? It's namely too acid, around 5.5 pH. Or is it better to ask: Will CS be able to neutralise the high quantity of acid in the water? Erna
CSIonic versus Colloidal
List, After looking at Natural Immunogenics test of Mesosilver and Argentyn 23 kill tests I have come to the conclusion the test was done exactly the way I think is correct. The hydrochloric acid, silver and pure water were diluted to different strengths of solution using both Argentyn 23 and Mesosilver. Those dilutions were then SPOTTED onto the surface of sterile Petri plates. The plates were then incubated overnight. The silver was not in the agar. It was on the surface of the agar in the water. At the end of the incubation period the pictures were taken. Any Staph that survived was able to start growth onto the plate. It is clear to me how the Staph growth was minimal with the Argentyn 23 compared to the Mesosilver plates. It seems obvious to me the test did not need to be done in broth. The silver in the purified water killed the Staph or it didn't. What Staph wasn't killed was able to grow out onto the plates during the incubation period. Both silver samples were in the same type liquid so there should be no problem with the media interfering with the kill. http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/documentation_detail.php?DocumentID=5 I did have some reservations regarding the test but after looking at the test and thinking about it I have decided to put this link back on our site. http://www.silvergen.com/ionic_versus_colloidal_silver.htm Trem www.silvergen.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTheory of Everything
OK, Let me take a stab at it. First we have the known facts, then the experimental evidence, then the theory that ties it all together. Facts: 1. EIS kill pathogens 2. Silver salts will photoreduce to silver atoms or particles when exposed to light 3. Silver salts will plate out on silver atoms or particles when there is a developer present and the ph of the liquid is over 7. 4. Many compounds can act as developers, such as caffeine. Some of these compounds may be found in the blood. 5. If silver salts are taken and then a person is exposed to light, then #2 and #3 can result in argyria, even for silver chloride with limited solubility 6. EIS does not cause argyria despite containing silver compounds of silver hydroxide or silver oxide. 7. Silver ions will help healing by causing injured cells to dedifferentiate and redifferentiate, and also quite possibly by repairing dna. 8. Silver compounds will usually form silver chloride when exposed to the stomach acids or salt in the blood. Some, such as silver sulfide will not, but they are not involved at this point. 9. Silver metal or particles are an oxidizing catalyst and a conductor. Experimental Evidence: 1. Both ionic and colloidal forms appear to kill pathogens. 2. Silver ions disappear from the blood stream rapidly after being introduced when there are silver particles present. 3. Silver taken by mouth ends up being eliminated primarily through the kidneys, despite the limited solubility of silver chloride. 4. Silver compounds with silver colloid (EIS) does not cause argyria. 5. When mixed with Gatorade, absorption rate is greatly enhanced. 6. Adding H2O2 increases the effectiveness of EIS Theory: Both ionic silver and colloidal silver kill pathogens, although likely by different means (ions binding with sulfur, particles being an oxidizing catalyst or disrupting the cell electrochemistry, or other means).. When one takes EIS by mouth, the ionic portion converts to silver chloride immediately. Most of the silver chloride precipitates out temporarily. If you mix with an electrolyte solution, then the solubility of the silver chloride goes up due to it forming chloride complexes of silver. (EE #5 above explained). Some of the silver chloride will remain in solution, and will quickly cross the stomach wall into the blood stream. This reduces the silver chloride in the stomach, so some of that which precipitated out will redissolve. Any that has not redissolved by the time it reaches the intestines has a fate which is unknown. Silver particles will also cross the stomach lining into the blood stream unchanged. Once in the blood stream, the silver quickly tries to reduce onto any particles it can find (Fact #3 and #4). There are two cases here that need explaining. First if there are no colloidal particles in the blood, some of it will end up being photoreduced by the sun in the skin (FACT #2). These particles would normally move out of the skin in short order, but with a significant silver compound in the blood, the quickly grow to the point of becoming caught via the photographic process. (Fact #5) If however there is a colloidal component associated with the silver chloride, then they quickly plate out on those particles (FACT #3). The result is a slight increase in particle size, instead of a huge increase in the size of particles in the skin. Thus the colloidal portion acts as a prophylactic against argyria. (Fact #6) At some point the kidneys remove the silver particles from the blood stream. (EE #3). I believe the theory explains all of the above known facts and experiments given above except EE #6, which I will discuss below. If there is any repeatable experimental evidence that contradicts this theory, then the theory will need to be modified or discarded, but at this time is as far as I know the ONLY theory to explain all the experiments, facts and evidence. Enhancement of H2O2 for EIS. 1. EIS contains silver ions and silver particles. The particles are fairly large compared with a particle of 2 atoms. 2. H2O2 will react with large silver particles, producing silver oxide. 3. H2O2 will react with silver hydroxide producing silver atoms which then aggregate with any particles. 4. H2O2 will react with silver oxide producing particles of silver composed of 2 atoms. The final result is a mixture of very small silver particles of typically 2 or so atoms, and silver oxide with a solubility limit of about 13 ppm. Tyndall decreases due to the replacement of large particles with small ones although many many more, color goes away for the same reason. Now I am unable to determine the ratio of silver oxide to silver particles, but if we assume that it is 50/50 then if we follow the above theory we will end up with many more and smaller particles in the blood than if the H2O2 was not added. So what is the difference? Lets say we start with some EIS that is 10% colloidal and 90% ionic. The colloid will contain particles of some
RE: CSBody pH
Yes. Since minerals are basic ground up rock. There may be lead and especially aluminum in most everything. There is aluminum and lead in common everyday foods. And if its not listed on the label those may be in trace amounts that are not required to be listed. According to most Coral Calcium (and Calcium) labels you'll see many metals listed. What the net effect of those are, are subject to speculation. Most (if not all) intervention at this time - the purpose for taking any supplements - must be weighted for the outcome potential. I strongly argue that all intervention should be of the shortest term possible and the focus is to restore the body's natural balance where intervention (supplements, herbs, CS, etc) is not needed. There are many avenues to adjust your body's pH. Calcium.being just one. Kombucha, lemon water, alkaline water, homeopathic remedies, to name a few. Diet and lifestyle is the single most contributing factor. Generally any long term intervention - cal/mag supplements - does not treat the root disorder. They may be recommended for the immediate short term, but focus should not be taken off searching for the root cause: why are supplements necessary. That does not negate that supplements may be necessary. The same should be said about CS. Most on this list seem to be of the opinion that in __acute crisis stage__ massive doses in as direct contact as possible for as long as possible would be the prescription. Once the distress has been eliminated very small and indeed they are very very small doses are administered as preventative. Where the affliction is seen as __chronic__ then slightly higher yet far lower doses are recommended. All the while when on a maintainace dose people are watching and looking for possible side affects or possible symptoms from long term use. Cases, of course, are judged independently, but generally that is the universal approach to health. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBody pH Ed, A Local homeopath here, syas that ALL calcium supplements contain some lead. Have you heard this? I'd sure like to know, as I take cal/mag supplements. Sally
Re: CSdose PPM, quantity frequency
I heartily agree, and a sentence giving the bare basics of the CS itself in addition would also be valuable. As in 20 ppm CS, brand X, or 10 ppm CS made with pure DW, no additives. I think most people tend to assume we all know what exactly they are using, but unless it is specified, we really don't know. And without the dosing amounts and frequency, and maybe also saying just swallowed or swished and held under the tongue for 3 minutes each time the reports of usefulness and cures are not nearly as helpful as they could be. These simple details would add a few sentences to a post, but would not be burdensome, and it would make all posts of successful use of CS much more useful and valuable to the rest of us. And it would also make the archives a more valuable repository of what has worked and what hasn't. It would be equally helpful for people to say, I took 8 oz of 10 ppm (homemade, pure DW, no additives) CS 3 times a day for X days for Y condition and experienced zero results. I myself would not interpret this as prescribing in any way. But when I have a similar condition that might respond to CS, it would be extremely helpful to knoow exactly what has worked or not worked for others. It would certainly help keep down the volume of repetitive questions whenever someone posts that CS worked or didn't work. The really useful information does tend to be in the details. sol SJY wrote: As a general rule, I think all CS List posters should specify PPM (or uS), quantity and frequency of ingestion when they report the results produced. E.g. I drank 8 ounces of 10 PPM CS 6 times a day for 3 weeks and it cured my Lyme Disease, or whatever. Just saying you used 10 PPM CS doesn't tell the whole story. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CStime for closing argument
CStime for closing argument From: Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans wrote: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:59:15 In addition to what Brook and others wrote, I would like to add the following words by Albert Einstein: IF YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, YOU ARE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO A CHILD. Erna ** Of course. But in order to be able to explain it you must first really understand it. What has been going on is an attempt to gain that understanding. Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdose PPM, quantity frequency
SJY wrote: Mike Monett others, It's interesting 20 us CS apparently didn't help with your mold problems, but 40 us did. What puzzles me is why double your 20 us dose wouldn't accomplish exactly the same thing? In other words, why shouldn't 2 ounces of 5 uS or PPM have exactly the same effect as 1 ounce of 10 uS or PPM? Does it have something to do with the rate of absorption per fluid ounce, and if it isn't strong enough, the body gets rid of it faster than it can accumulate to do some good? Comments anyone? I believe my theory which I just posted to this group explains this as well. As one makes EIS, colloid begins forming. Initially what is produced is almost 100% ionic, but as the ppm increases so does the colloidal component, so you have more and more colloidal particles as the ppm goes up. When made using some of the advanced techinques, like the SG 6 and 7 use, the particles tend to grow in number, and not so much in size. This is important. Now when it hits the blood stream and the ionic silver (silver chloride in solution) begins plating out on the particles, we have lots of small particles for it to plate out on instead of fewer small particles. If, for instance we have 10 times the number of particles in 20 ppm than 10 ppm, then the final result will be 10 times as many particles for the same amount taken. But even if we halve the amount of the 20 ppm, it would still introduce 5 times as many particles as the 10 ppm, and the particles would be much much smaller (about 1/5 the number of atoms) since the ionic portion would be split between 10 times as many particles to plate out on. Final result, 20 ppm well made EIS can out preform 10 ppm EIS even when diluted to be 10 ppm. The final result in the blood stream will be many more and smaller particles. Marshall As a general rule, I think all CS List posters should specify PPM (or uS), quantity and frequency of ingestion when they report the results produced. E.g. I drank 8 ounces of 10 PPM CS 6 times a day for 3 weeks and it cured my Lyme Disease, or whatever. Just saying you used 10 PPM CS doesn't tell the whole story. --Steve Y. SNIP Mike said: As you know, I have been suffering the effects of mold toxins for years. The 20us cs had no effect. I did some more experimenting and found a way to get higher ion concentration. A description is in the archives. I took my first dose on March 4. The symptoms gradually started disappearing, and now I am able to function like a human being once more, instead of spending days in bed. Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdose PPM, quantity frequency
Mike, Was there any difference in the way you took the different ppm CS? You said you drank 8 oz of 10 ppm daily do you mean you simply swallowed it without holding it under the tongue at all? And when you changed from 20 ppm to the 30-45 uS CS, did you hold it under your tongue for the same amount of time? Did you spit that out also or swallow it? TIA, sol Mike Monett wrote: I noticed a similar effect with the second Shingles infection. I was drinking 8 oz of 3 nines quality each day. It had no effect. When I first tried the 20ppm cs, I was not sure what to expect, so I didn't swallow it but spit it out. Then the blisters fell off. One ounce is, of course, 1/8 of 8 ounces. So the old stuff should have worked. But it didn't. And the 20ppm had no effect on the mold toxins. I guarantee you, I tried. But the 30-45uS definitely has a very significant effect. I have been out of work due to mold related illness for years - I think since 1999. But am going to start looking for a job this week. To me it's clear. When it comes to ionic cs, more is better. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBruises
From a Taoist perspective, Chi follows Yi, Blood follows Chi. That is, Chi (or life force energy) follows Yi (the mind, or the mind's attention). The attention, Chi, and the circulation will also go to the place which is lightly touched or rubbed. This may very well help heal the trauma... Dan Re: CSWarning for LV CS http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79056.html From: sol (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:05:35 This may seem really weird to ask but are you experimenting by hitting yourself? Just curious, as I have noticed a strange phenomenom on myself, it is that if I crash into something hard, and am really busy, and sort of therefore pay not much attention or quickly forget I bruised myself somewhere I get a bruise, sometimes a big bruise appears and I can't remember hitting into anything at all. If OTOH, I notice immediately, and put my concentration on the spot I have hit, (so to speak, but I mean if I really have time to notice) rub the spot, and think I'm going to have a big bruise, no bruise ever forms (or ever comes to the surface to be seen). I have always wondered what the heck the mechanism for the two different outcomes of a big bump could possibly be other than a strictly mental control over the bruising process. Unless it is the rubbing of the sore spot, vs not rubbing it? sol Sandee George wrote: I have observed the following and would like all to hear from you all your different perspectives : Why is it when I hit any part of my body, not drawing blood, that by using C.S. thereon by applying a soaked pad of it - there is practically no bruising or inflammation - this interests me - thanks Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChelation and silver
Hi Trem, Were you using IV EDTA? My doctor gave me the oral EDTA last summer. Man, did I get a reaction! I had terrible dizzy spells for about a month. My doctor says the oral form is just as effective as the IV. But you must supplement the minerals for about 1 month afterwards, in addition to L glutathione, ALA, NAC, etc. I don't guess you would need to take calcium if you were trying to rid yourself of an excess of it, though. Sally Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: Marshall, What a great idea. I just finished 18 chelation sessions using EDTA in the hopes it would remove the calcium from my pipes and help lower my blood pressure by allowing them to become more resilient. It did nothing except drain my wallet. Now I'm thinking it may have been chelating the continuous amount of silver in my blood from the daily ingestion and it never got past the silver in order to start removing the calcium. Du I had a fleeting thought about that during my sessions but neglected to ask the doctor. He probably wouldn't have known the answer. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: Re: CSppm meters I think the debate is good. For instance I am going to check if EDTA will cause silver chloride in solution to be chelated. I would never have thought of this without the debate. I think it is very important if we can figure out how all this works (since we are far past the point of knowing that it DOES work). The Gatorade and H2O2 were found by experimenting, not theory. But theory shows why they do what they do, and with good theory other improvement may become obvious to us for other enhancements. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
CSWhere is my theory of everything?
Mike, what happened to my theory of everything I posted this morning (and have referenced on other postings since). It appears to have not made it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdose PPM, quantity frequency
Re: CSdose PPM, quantity frequency From: sol Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:57:46 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79209.html Mike, Was there any difference in the way you took the different ppm CS? You said you drank 8 oz of 10 ppm daily do you mean you simply swallowed it without holding it under the tongue at all? And when you changed from 20 ppm to the 30-45 uS CS, did you hold it under your tongue for the same amount of time? Did you spit that out also or swallow it? TIA, sol Hi sol, Yes, I changed methods several times. Originally I just glugged the 3 nines down. The first time I tried the 20uS, I held it in the mouth for several minutes and spit it out. I planned to wait several days to see what would happen, and didn't take any more cs. When the shingles blisters fell off, I was amazed and pleased, and started switching between the two varieties to see if it was a fluke or there was a real difference. My housemate, a cute Russian girl, quickly became accustomed to the 20uS and let me know in no uncertain terms when a batch didn't come out right, or when I gave her the 3 nines. She preferred the 20uS. They continued using sublingual absorption and spitting it out. I started holding in the mouth, then swallowing it. It didn't seem to make much difference. Her son was a soccer star and all the teenage girls loved him. We all started getting difficult cold sores. The 3 nines had little effect, but the 20uS killed the viruses very quickly, so I finally quit making the 3 nines and moved to the 20uS. I got into the habit of holding the 20uS sublingually and swishing it around for 10 minutes, then swallowing it. I do the same with the 40uS. I don't know if it makes much difference, but I figure I might as well try to get every last drop:) It definitely works better than the 20uS. All the best, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhere is my theory of everything?
OHMYGAWD!!! We'll have to name Marshalls theory, theory 42! 42--The answer to life, the universe, and everything Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe* Chuck Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck On 3/30/2005 3:21:03 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: Mike, what happened to my theory of everything I posted this morning (and have referenced on other postings since). It appears to have not made it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/heal
Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal
CSIonic versus Colloidal From: Trem Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:09:31 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79211.html List, After looking at Natural Immunogenics test of Mesosilver and Argentyn 23 kill tests I have come to the conclusion the test was done exactly the way I think is correct. The hydrochloric acid, silver and pure water were diluted to different strengths of solution using both Argentyn 23 and Mesosilver. Those dilutions were then SPOTTED onto the surface of sterile Petri plates. The plates were then incubated overnight. The silver was not in the agar. It was on the surface of the agar in the water. At the end of the incubation period the pictures were taken. Any Staph that survived was able to start growth onto the plate. It is clear to me how the Staph growth was minimal with the Argentyn 23 compared to the Mesosilver plates. It seems obvious to me the test did not need to be done in broth. The silver in the purified water killed the Staph or it didn't. What Staph wasn't killed was able to grow out onto the plates during the incubation period. Both silver samples were in the same type liquid so there should be no problem with the media interfering with the kill. http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/documentation_detail.php?DocumentID=5 I did have some reservations regarding the test but after looking at the test and thinking about it I have decided to put this link back on our site. http://www.silvergen.com/ionic_versus_colloidal_silver.htm Trem www.silvergen.com Bravo Trem! Can you weld it in place this time:)? For the list archives, you might want to use this url as it is shorter and won't have as much tendency to wrap in people's browsers: http://tinyurl.com/3qb4v You might also consider adding some supporting data links at http://tinyurl.com/47ujf http://tinyurl.com/3mmq2 They all say the same thing. Ions kill pathogens, particles don't. Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChelation and silver
It would stand to reason, wouldn't it? I think my doctor may be incorrect about this. I will say that it wasn't a positive experience anyway. I'll continue with my chlorella. Sure hope you can find something to help you! Sally Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: Hi Sally, I used IV. All the info I could gather said the oral EDTA doesn't reach the bloodstream as well as direct injection. So did my doctor. Trem - Original Message - From: Sally Khanna To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: Re: CSChelation and silver Hi Trem, Were you using IV EDTA? My doctor gave me the oral EDTA last summer. Man, did I get a reaction! I had terrible dizzy spells for about a month. My doctor says the oral form is just as effective as the IV. But you must supplement the minerals for about 1 month afterwards, in addition to L glutathione, ALA, NAC, etc. I don't guess you would need to take calcium if you were trying to rid yourself of an excess of it, though. Sally Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: Marshall, What a great idea. I just finished 18 chelation sessions using EDTA in the hopes it would remove the calcium from my pipes and help lower my blood pressure by allowing them to become more resilient. It did nothing except drain my wallet. Now I'm thinking it may have been chelating the continuous amount of silver in my blood from the daily ingestion and it never got past the silver in order to start removing the calcium. Du I had a fleeting thought about that during my sessions but neglected to ask the doctor. He probably wouldn't have known the answer. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: Re: CSppm meters I think the debate is good. For instance I am going t! o check if EDTA will cause silver chloride in solution to be chelated. I would never have thought of this without the debate. I think it is very important if we can figure out how all this works (since we are far past the point of knowing that it DOES work). The Gatorade and H2O2 were found by experimenting, not theory. But theory shows why they do what they do, and with good theory other improvement may become obvious to us for other enhancements. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html L! ist maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Re: CSWhere is my theory of everything?
No, it is all restricted to ionic and colloidal silver. Marshall cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: OHMYGAWD!!! We'll have to name Marshalls theory, theory 42! 42--The answer to life, the universe, and everything Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe* Chuck Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck On 3/30/2005 3:21:03 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: Mike, what happened to my theory of everything I posted this morning (and have referenced on other postings since). It appears to have not made it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/heal
Re: CSWhere is my theory of everything?
Marshall, It's not in the archives, I don't appear to have received it as a posting, and I received nothing as list owner indicating it arrived or was rejected. Suggest you make sure it is less than about 15 kilobytes big, plain text only, and re-send. If it doesn't show up in 15 minutes or so, send it directly to me. Sorry for the problem. Mike D. Mike, what happened to my theory of everything I posted this morning (and have referenced on other postings since). It appears to have not made it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal
The hydrochloric acid, silver and pure water were diluted to different strengths of solution using both Argentyn 23 and Mesosilver. Those dilutions were then SPOTTED onto the surface of sterile Petri plates. Trem, please save me going to the site: Where and when is the microbe introduced into the experiment. Diluted into the pure water before addition of the other stuff? The silver in the purified water killed the Staph or it didn't. So it's a go/no go test, basically, showing whether the product will produce 100% kill within a certain period of time? About the only difference would be if the mesosilver was given less time than it needs to complete the kill, while the ionic material happened to kill faster under the conditions. How much time are we talking about? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS water treatment
Erna, Making CS in water to kill the pathogens in the water is great, but doesnt resolve the issue of chemicals (chlorine, fluoride, pesticides, etc.), nor does it remove other non-pathogenic pollutants. As far as pH is concerned, there are various ways to alkalinize water http://www.atl2.netfirms.com/engy/mutch/acidalk/acidalk.htm; http://www.restoringnature.com I am waiting for a batch of magnets to build a water-treatment device right now. I ordered them from: www.kjmagnetics.com After Ive tried it, Ill let everyone know if it works. Terry Chamberlin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBig thank you to Terry and ? for Mike M
Thank you Terry for all the details I appreciate it. Mike M. about your mold situation, your house doesn't have sick building syndrome does it? Or maybe do you have mercury in your filling's? I hope you hang in there...I know from experience how frustrating it can be to get rid of mold. The doc I found put me on Nystatin and Zyflucan for about six weeks if I recall, he kept checking my liver enzymes...but it nailed the systemic yeast that I had big time...which in turn took care of my TMJ, skin rashes, and IBS. I went on supplements too, but that took care of the mold/yeast. Best wishes Debbie
RE: CSBruises
don't forget the body. Thats following behind. Intention, Energy, Body. Not always last. But look what happens when the body goes first!! trauma in one nano-second. Where there may be an 'out of body experience, as if watching your experience as an observer. Or a feeling of everything in slow motion - then the impact - bang - and you're back. Or it never happened. Or better, how could it have happened. Maybe thats where Einstein came up with his Space-Time theory and opened up Quantum and String theory. You know maybe it all just started when Newton got hit with an apple, Einstein flew off his bicycle and Niles Bohr (spelling!) did or didn't do something but intended to. Unification of Mind, Body and Spirit, attempt to live (or be alive) in the NOW. Reality may only be exist when our perception of it (finally) creates it. Says a lot for denial. See Bush is really not bad when you're in denial ... (did I get ya?) Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBruises From a Taoist perspective, Chi follows Yi, Blood follows Chi. That is, Chi (or life force energy) follows Yi (the mind, or the mind's attention). The attention, Chi, and the circulation will also go to the place which is lightly touched or rubbed. This may very well help heal the trauma... Dan Re: CSWarning for LV CS http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79056.html From: sol (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:05:35 This may seem really weird to ask but are you experimenting by hitting yourself? Just curious, as I have noticed a strange phenomenom on myself, it is that if I crash into something hard, and am really busy, and sort of therefore pay not much attention or quickly forget I bruised myself somewhere I get a bruise, sometimes a big bruise appears and I can't remember hitting into anything at all. If OTOH, I notice immediately, and put my concentration on the spot I have hit, (so to speak, but I mean if I really have time to notice) rub the spot, and think I'm going to have a big bruise, no bruise ever forms (or ever comes to the surface to be seen). I have always wondered what the heck the mechanism for the two different outcomes of a big bump could possibly be other than a strictly mental control over the bruising process. Unless it is the rubbing of the sore spot, vs not rubbing it? sol Sandee George wrote: I have observed the following and would like all to hear from you all your different perspectives : Why is it when I hit any part of my body, not drawing blood, that by using C.S. thereon by applying a soaked pad of it - there is practically no bruising or inflammation - this interests me - thanks Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT - iodine deficiency
Hello, I've been using Real Salt for about a year now and my mother came to visit and is concerned that we will become iodine deficient. I know that Real Salt is good for you because of the minerals. Does anyone know of a good source of iodine aside from using iodised salt? Sorry for the off-topic question but so many people here are knowledgeable. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 Philippians 4:8
Re: CSOT - iodine deficiency
I am new here and have been lurking for a few days. Just purchased a Silver Gen from Trem and found this list while doing some research. I appreciate what I am learning from everyone. You can get Lugol's Iodine from a compounding pharmacist and take one drop a day. Dr. David Derry, a Canadian physician says it will extend your life. The British Columbia medical association took away his medical license because he was curing too many women with iodine and thyroid supplements!!! Dr. Derry wrote a book Breast Cancer and Iodine, Preventing and surviving. Trafford Publishing company, Victoria, Canada. 2001. Here is a great article by him on how to prevent breast cancer http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl1a.htm You can read more about the importance of iodine here written by Dr. Jonathon Wright. ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS http://www.tahoma-clinic.com/iodide.shtml and you can buy it here http://tinyurl.com/5npyy Kallie Miller, London, Canada - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:02 PM Subject: CSOT - iodine deficiency Hello, I've been using Real Salt for about a year now and my mother came to visit and is concerned that we will become iodine deficient. I know that Real Salt is good for you because of the minerals. Does anyone know of a good source of iodine aside from using iodised salt? Sorry for the off-topic question but so many people here are knowledgeable. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 Philippians 4:8
Re: CSOT - iodine deficiency
Hi Lea, Yeah you can jsut get some kelp tablets ot the health food store. they give plenty of iodine. Take care, V Hello, I've been using Real Salt for about a year now and my mother came to visit and is concerned that we will become iodine deficient. I know that Real Salt is good for you because of the minerals. Does anyone know of a good source of iodine aside from using iodised salt? Sorry for the off-topic question but so many people here are knowledgeable. Blessings, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 Philippians 4:8 -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - iodine deficiency
I'll be interested in the replies to this, as I am extremely allergic to iodine and have been trying my best to avoid it for more than 20 years. I have been using non-iodized salt for over a decade at least, take no minerals with iodine, take no multivitamins or supplements containing iodine and eat nothing containing any iodine ingredients such as algins, carrageenan, and of course use nothing containing iodine by other names, such as povidone, cros-povidone, betadine, and so on. No seaweeds or green foods containing seaweeds either, no ocean fish, nothing made with iodized salt as far as I can find out what those foods are. I don't eat vegetables or dairy that are high iodine either. My diet is ridiculous. I am as iodine deficient as I can possibly make myself. I still do not have a goiter. I've been told this means that even with all my efforts, I am NOT avoiding iodine. Because of my somewhat unique experiment of one, I don't believe it is possible to suffer serious iodine deficiency in the U.S. unless you eat nothing at all, except pure refined white sugar, so far as I can determine, that is the only 100% iodine free food there is. sol Lea Ann wrote: Hello, I've been using Real Salt for about a year now and my mother came to visit and is concerned that we will become iodine deficient. I know that Real Salt is good for you because of the minerals. Does anyone know of a good source of iodine aside from using iodised salt? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 3/30/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSthanks for the answers-gout and calcium
Thanks to the person who answered my question about silver. I would still like some opinions on argentyn,ASAP and mesosilver if anyone know anything. To the person who was afflicted with gout when using calcium supplements, I was wondering what type of calcium was used and also wondered if magnesium and vitamin D were used concurrently with it.If not, the calcium gets thrown off into depostits in the body. Interesting though if this did not happen with coral calcium.Maybe it has naturally occuring substances that help the calcium get to where it should. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMexican water purification
I'd like to know a little more about this please. Going to travel where I'd like to purify the h20. Thanks, Sally William Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx wrote: It's Microdyn, reputedly 3200ppm, now available in 1-liter size bottles, for only $11US. - Original Message - From: Albert Peirce To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: CSMexican water purification Forgive me a senior moment, but what is the name of the silver water purification product? Thanks in advance, Al - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
