CSCS mold, yeast and candida
I've just started taking CS (30 ml in the morning). I also drink three small glasses of non dairy kefir every day which is very easy to make at home from a starter. It stands to reason that anyone taking CS regularly should drink kefir or reintroduce bacteria into the gut in some way (eating fermented foods is one way) as the CS is bound to kill other bacteria in the body along with the pathogens. This could explain abnormal candida growth. A number of websites have information on the benefits of eating fermented food. One is www.mercola.com, another is www.westonaprice.org. So I'm wondering about the effect of CS on my health in the long term. For instance, concerning CS and avian flu, would CS be more effective in warding off this flu if it were taken only at onset of symptoms and not every day as a preventive measure? Carlene I have wondered about that too. Time kill studies shown on www.silvermedicine.org show CS killing candida in about the same time period as it kills bacteria, and with similar efficiency. And I never had any trouble myself until I upped my daily intake to around a quart. Then I did start to have some yeast overgrowth symptoms. Makes you wonder if in a living body CS tends to be able to kill bacteria faster than it kills the candida, thus leading to some overgrowth, maybe if only temporarily? CS applied directly to the area experiencing the yeast symptoms stopped them nearly immediately, for me, so I do believe CS can and does kill the yeast just fine. Or maybe my own symptoms were from something else. Not totally certain. sol Betsy Coffey wrote: About the cs causing yeast infections, isnt CS supposed to kill yeast?
Re: CSOrthodontia question...
Have you guys looked into Invisalign ? Not everyone can be aligned with this and I don't know what is in the plastic (but it's not metal). I would like to have my teeth straightened but this costs the same as regular braces and my budget trumps my vanity. Just something to look into... Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Theresa Widmer tlwid...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:11 PM Subject: RE: CSOrthodontia question... Hi Mike-- My concern is the type of metals used in these appliances as I worry about the chance of heavy metals getting into our kids' systems. (though I doubt most of us parents with children having this hardware in their mouths have much of a choice.) I haven't done much research into this, but I should, as my son will be getting braces in a year or so. (He has headgear and brackets at present.) I to find out what kind of metal is used, and if it is known to give off vapors, I would like the chance to choose an alternative, like I did with his fillings. They look at my like I've lost my mind, but I face that with X-ray and fluoride issues. Of course, anything not customary and ordinary insurance companies don't like to pay for. My contribution-- Theresa -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOrthodontia question... Hi folks, I have the greatest of respect for you all and treasure you as a most valuable resource. I beg your indulgence for a personal question that is not particularly CS related: My 15 year old daughter needs braces. At least, she has a gap between her front teeth that needs closing. Of course we don't know what else the orthodontist will imagine needs doing until we go in there. roll eyes May I pick your brains for anything you'd care to share with me about this subject? Things to avoid and seek out? Hazards? Risks? Costs? Resources and information? Please educate me! Thank you, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Silver has a mw of 108 Silver carbonate is Ag2CO3 mw 276. Baking Soda is NaHCO3 mw 84. Since ppm is measured as weight vs weight, then the amount of silver vs the amount of baking soda will be 2*108/84 of the baking soda ppm. That means that 4.5 ppm of baking soda should produce 11.6 ppm of ionic silver (15 ppm of silver carbonate) before any significant colloid would begin forming. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Yes, I do a crude volume/proportion calculation, deduct a small amount from that, dump it into the water, stir, measure , and bring it up minim at a time with an eyedropper to the desired conductivity; in this case, 4.5 PPM. My question is: how much silver am I loosing to the carbonate and what is the chemistry and metabolism of the silver carbonate in the body. Thanks to everyone who is responding. Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter The trick to extreme dilution is to do it in multiple steps, not all at once. For instance, put a 1/8 teaspoon into 8 oz of water, then use an eye dropper to put one or two drops into another 8 oz of water. Then you can use a few drops from that second one to give you extremely low amounts of dilution, or if it is too dilute, go back and use a few drops from the first one. That will give you a repeatable dilution, after you find the correct number of drops, keep the second 8 oz for later. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: That small amount is about the same as, or more than, the small amount of silver being released. It's amazing how hard it is to not put too much bicarb in the water...the tiniest little fleck on the end of a toothpick in a quart of water raises the conductivity by 5 or 6 uS where current starts flowing stronger than you'd really want it to. Ode At 09:32 AM 9/30/2005 -0400, you wrote: Hello: Would the small amount of Silver Carbonate formed in this process be disadventageous in any way? Ian - Original Message - From: Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: CSSodium Bicarb for starter Hello: Is there anything to be really concerned about in adding Sodium Bicarb to Distilled water in small amounts, say to increase PPM to 5 before starting the electrolytic process for CS? I had been using 25% CS ( 1000 ml Starter plus 3000 ml Distilled) from the previous batches but have found that starting with 5 ppm Sodium Bicarb greatly speeds the process up and the CS that comes out is clear and tastes like good CS and it works. Ian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 9/29/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 9/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 9/30/2005
Re: CSTrem..nebulizer.
Deb, I went to a Walgreen's in Silverdale, WA a couple of days ago and they told me that Walgreen's has never had nebulizers on the shelf. They told me to look online. I did...nothing there. Guess I'm dead in the water. Trem - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: CSTrem..nebulizer. Hi Trem...we were chatting about them being on e-bay and at Walgreens.deb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 10/3/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 10/3/2005
Re: CSTrem..nebulizer.
Try http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?satitle=nebulizercatref=C3from=R2 Marshall Trem wrote: Deb, I went to a Walgreen's in Silverdale, WA a couple of days ago and they told me that Walgreen's has never had nebulizers on the shelf. They told me to look online. I did...nothing there. Guess I'm dead in the water. Trem - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: CSTrem..nebulizer. Hi Trem...we were chatting about them being on e-bay and at Walgreens.deb - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 10/3/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/117 - Release Date: 10/3/2005
CSQuestion about CS
To All: Just joined and I have a question about CS. I found a website that states they sell 100ppm CS. I thought, CS only went up to 18 or 20 ppm. Is this website a hoax about the level of ppm in their AC CS? Thanks for all information. Sincerely, Debbie
Re: CSDistemper Raccoons
i dont know if debbie wants this info but I sure do Would it work on my dogs and save them getting another shot? - Original Message - From: deborah byron laqueren...@cox-internet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:21 AM Subject: CSDistemper Raccoons Connie--how great of you to do this for a wild animal. Just wanted to mention something about homeopathy--I know of a practitioner who says there's a nosode which can be put out in drinking water so that wildlife can be 'vaccinated' against rabies. Isn't that brilliant--I'll bet she'd have something similar for distemper. Let me know if you'd like contact info. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about CS
Insuficient information. Most likely they are selling a silver compound, mild silver protein., or lieing about the ppm. Marshall debca...@aol.com wrote: To All: Just joined and I have a question about CS. I found a website that states they sell 100ppm CS. I thought, CS only went up to 18 or 20 ppm. Is this website a hoax about the level of ppm in their AC CS? Thanks for all information. Sincerely, Debbie
CSCS for my dogs
To All: A friend of mine told me about CS for my dogs. She also told me about this site. I found a website that claims to sell 100ppm CS. She said it might be bogus, and to try asking here at this CS forum. I am just learning about CS, and I want to get as much information as possible before I start using it or ordering it. Can someone give me a reputable place to order CS from. I would order 32oz. at a time. Maybe a gallon, because there is no expiration date. Thanks for the help and the information. Debbie
Re: CSQuestion about CS
Marshall: Where do you get your CS from? My friend told me the higher the ppm, the better. She usually gets between 14ppm-18ppm, she makes her own. I was wondering if there is a reputable place I could order CS from. Can I get it at a local health food store, etc. Thanks, Debbie
Re: CSTrem..nebulizer.
Hi Trem, Have you looked here: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Ffkr=1from=R8satitle=nebulizercategory0= Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: CSTrem..nebulizer. Deb, I went to a Walgreen's in Silverdale, WA a couple of days ago and they told me that Walgreen's has never had nebulizers on the shelf. They told me to look online. I did...nothing there. Guess I'm dead in the water. Trem
Re: CSTrem..nebulizer.
Oops sorry Marshal. I just now saw that you posted the same link. Great minds you know... :-) Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: Re: CSTrem..nebulizer. Hi Trem, Have you looked here: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Ffkr=1from=R8satitle=nebulizercategory0= Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: CSTrem..nebulizer. Deb, I went to a Walgreen's in Silverdale, WA a couple of days ago and they told me that Walgreen's has never had nebulizers on the shelf. They told me to look online. I did...nothing there. Guess I'm dead in the water. Trem
Re: CSQuestion about CS
I make my own. I use a 1 gallon aquarium kit that has a recirculating pump built into it, along with a pump, flow meter, constant current source made from a 7805, and a power supply. I crank it up to .8 gallons per hour, and that turns out crystal clear 20 ppm EIS. My daughter uses an SG6 from silvergen.com that I bought her. Marshall debca...@aol.com wrote: Marshall: Where do you get your CS from? My friend told me the higher the ppm, the better. She usually gets between 14ppm-18ppm, she makes her own. I was wondering if there is a reputable place I could order CS from. Can I get it at a local health food store, etc. Thanks, Debbie
CSTrem..nebulizer.
Dear Trem--The small $20 unit I got from Walgreens (their own brand) is actually called an ultrasonic humidifier. I would only say that mine has been unreliable at times, other times its worked well. But when you need one, you tend to really need it. So if doing it again I'd invest a little more and get a better unit. All the best, DeborahB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS24 hour treatment worked
The likelyhood of having symptoms 7 hours after exposure seems rather remote to me. I suspect that what you had has nothing to do with the raccoon. However do note that the initial symptoms of rabies are similar to other viruses such as the flu. Marshall Connie Howard wrote: Just wanted to post about a treatment I took last night.I had been in close proxsimity to the raccoon who had I believed distemper. and in a enclosed enviorment. Around 3 pm I began getting a clogged feeling in my ear and a pre-smyptom in my throat. Also, I had a dull ache in my sholders. I was feel kinds foggy like I was coming down with flu/cold/etc. At 8pm (after sleeping for a hour) I began gargling with collodia silver (20 ppm; approx) and then swollowing. I also took 1500 Mg l-Lysine and 2000 Mg Vit C (the good kind). I prepared my special drink that I normally take when these symptoms began; large mug of hot water distilled with 1 lg tablespoon honey (the good kind) and a couple capfulls of Apple Cider Vinger (the good stuff). At 2 am I did the same thing again. I then took 2 - 3mg Melitona and 2 muscle relaxers. This morning only a small feeling remains of what could have been a full blown attact. Just in case someone may find this usefull connie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSQuestion - Distemper Raccoons
I have cared for many raccoons in this lifetime. Wild, orphan, etc. I do know what you mean did the wild one in your kitchen get into all of your cabinets? LOL Teri At 09:41 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: Have you ever had one in your kitchen for an hour or so? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 9/29/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Marshall, Once again, thank you so very much for making your skills available. I have forwarded your mail to Bruce Marx. I need to get my ass in gear and send Frank a sample. Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:19 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter Silver has a mw of 108 Silver carbonate is Ag2CO3 mw 276. Baking Soda is NaHCO3 mw 84. Since ppm is measured as weight vs weight, then the amount of silver vs the amount of baking soda will be 2*108/84 of the baking soda ppm. That means that 4.5 ppm of baking soda should produce 11.6 ppm of ionic silver (15 ppm of silver carbonate) before any significant colloid would begin forming. Marshall Jim Holmes wrote: Yes, I do a crude volume/proportion calculation, deduct a small amount from that, dump it into the water, stir, measure , and bring it up minim at a time with an eyedropper to the desired conductivity; in this case, 4.5 PPM. My question is: how much silver am I loosing to the carbonate and what is the chemistry and metabolism of the silver carbonate in the body. Thanks to everyone who is responding. Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter The trick to extreme dilution is to do it in multiple steps, not all at once. For instance, put a 1/8 teaspoon into 8 oz of water, then use an eye dropper to put one or two drops into another 8 oz of water. Then you can use a few drops from that second one to give you extremely low amounts of dilution, or if it is too dilute, go back and use a few drops from the first one. That will give you a repeatable dilution, after you find the correct number of drops, keep the second 8 oz for later. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: That small amount is about the same as, or more than, the small amount of silver being released. It's amazing how hard it is to not put too much bicarb in the water...the tiniest little fleck on the end of a toothpick in a quart of water raises the conductivity by 5 or 6 uS where current starts flowing stronger than you'd really want it to. Ode At 09:32 AM 9/30/2005 -0400, you wrote: Hello: Would the small amount of Silver Carbonate formed in this process be disadventageous in any way? Ian - Original Message - From: Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: CSSodium Bicarb for starter Hello: Is there anything to be really concerned about in adding Sodium Bicarb to Distilled water in small amounts, say to increase PPM to 5 before starting the electrolytic process for CS? I had been using 25% CS ( 1000 ml Starter plus 3000 ml Distilled) from the previous batches but have found that starting with 5 ppm Sodium Bicarb greatly speeds the process up and the CS that comes out is clear and tastes like good CS and it works. Ian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 9/29/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 9/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9 - Release Date: 9/30/2005
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
In a message dated 10/4/05 5:28:05 AM Central Daylight Time, genes...@wanadoo.fr writes: It stands to reason that anyone taking CS regularly should drink kefir or reintroduce bacteria into the gut in some way (eating fermented foods is one way) as the CS is bound to kill other bacteria in the body along with the pathogens. It has always been my understanding that CS does NOT kill ordinary healthy bacteria in the gut. MA
Re: CSQuestion about CS
Dear Marshall: Is CS supposed to be crystal clear? I have been doing research and some companies advertise it looks like a tea. Is that the correct color of CS or is it supposed to be crystal clear? I really need to learn a lot more about CS. Also, I have read about graying of the skin. I forget the technical name of it. I have also, read, that if you take CS with too high a ppm, that is what causes the graying of the skin. Please, help me out with what is true and what is false. I really don't trust making it myself, but there has to be a reputable company out there that sells it. Does anyone buy their CS? Thanks, Debbie
CSReason for my Interest in CS
My friend told me about the advantages of CS with her family and dogs. I have a puppy who is being treated for Demedex on strong antibiotics. He has two weeks then he is done with the antibiotic treatment. I know, antibiotics kill good and bad bacteria. Demedex is also caused by stress and an immune system that is not fully developed. My friend told me CS can help build a stronger immune system and help get rid of the Demedex in my puppy. I have never heard of Colloidal Silver ever. I have been reading like crazy. I have found good and bad things about silver. The last thing I want to do is endanger my dog or myself. Any and all information is helpful. Thanks, Debbie
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/4/05 5:28:05 AM Central Daylight Time, genes...@wanadoo.fr writes: It stands to reason that anyone taking CS regularly should drink kefir or reintroduce bacteria into the gut in some way (eating fermented foods is one way) as the CS is bound to kill other bacteria in the body along with the pathogens. It has always been my understanding that CS does NOT kill ordinary healthy bacteria in the gut. MA CS kills virtually all bacteria it comes into contact with. CS does not affect any bacterea in a healthy gut due to being absorbed into the blood stream in the stomach and being immobalized by the stool. It will kill any bacteria in the gut when taken in large amounts, and if the gut is full of liquids so it can have mobility. Marshall
Re: CSQuestion about CS
debca...@aol.com wrote: Dear Marshall: Is CS supposed to be crystal clear? I have been doing research and some companies advertise it looks like a tea. Is that the correct color of CS or is it supposed to be crystal clear? The color's shade is a product of the particle size, the density of the color is a product of the size and the concentration. When particles are sufficiently small, then the absorbed spectrum is in the uv, so it will appear clear to humans. As you increase CS concentration, then the particle size increases. So it can be used as a crude measure of concentration for any consistant method of manufacture. For low concentrations, like 5 to 10 ppm, it would be best to be clear. For higher concentrations, such as above 20 ppm, it becomes increasingly difficult to make it clear, and a light yellow or gold is still very good. I really need to learn a lot more about CS. Also, I have read about graying of the skin. I forget the technical name of it. I have also, read, that if you take CS with too high a ppm, that is what causes the graying of the skin. Argyria. No reported case of argyria has EVER been reported from taking colloidal silver of any concentration. Argyria has been reported from taking silver salts, such as silver nitrate and silver citrate, as well as mild silver protein. I firmly believe that properly made colloidal silver not only does not cause argyria, but is an actual prophylactic against it. Please, help me out with what is true and what is false. I really don't trust making it myself, but there has to be a reputable company out there that sells it. Does anyone buy their CS? I use to sell it, but never could sell enough to make it worthwhile. I now recommend people to make their own. Both the SG6 and silver puppy units are reported to be very good. Marshall Thanks, Debbie
CS24 hour treatment worked
Just wanted to post about a treatment I took last night.I had been in close proxsimity to the raccoon who had I believed distemper. and in a enclosed enviorment. Around 3 pm I began getting a clogged feeling in my ear and a pre-smyptom in my throat. Also, I had a dull ache in my sholders. I was feel kinds foggy like I was coming down with flu/cold/etc. At 8pm (after sleeping for a hour) I began gargling with collodia silver (20 ppm; approx) and then swollowing. I also took 1500 Mg l-Lysine and 2000 Mg Vit C (the good kind). I prepared my special drink that I normally take when these symptoms began; large mug of hot water distilled with 1 lg tablespoon honey (the good kind) and a couple capfulls of Apple Cider Vinger (the good stuff). At 2 am I did the same thing again. I then took 2 - 3mg Melitona and 2 muscle relaxers. This morning only a small feeling remains of what could have been a full blown attact. Just in case someone may find this usefull connie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRabies
This site lists rabies as one of over 200 diseases that olive leaf can cure: http://philaero-wellness.com/index.php?option=contenttask=viewid=70 Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about CS
Dear Marshall: Thank you for your information. Where can I find SG6 and puppy units? I thank you for the clarification on the Argyria. Any useful links you think might take me in the right direction is appreciated. Thank you. Debbie
Re: CScolloidal silver and mold
Bill, Can you indicate how you make the CC and the specifics as to how you use it? Thanks, Dan William Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx 10/3/2005 1:40:55 PM Colloidal copper will, as my sparkling pool in the tropics attests - Original Message - From: Wendy To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: RE: CScolloidal silver and mold So wouldn't that mean you could use it in the pool in place of chemicals??? We use partial ozone, but ozone won't kill algae. Thoughts? wendy -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: October 3, 2005 10:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScolloidal silver and mold CS works great on some molds, but has been reported to not affect other ones. Mold is like algae, a single celled organism that forms branching colonies. Marshall Lea Ann wrote: Hello, CS only works with single cell organisms right? Is mold a single cell organism? I was wondering if I sprayed CS in my shower if it would prevent/clean up the mold? TIA(Thanks In Advance) Blessings,Lea Ann -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
In a message dated 10/4/05 11:12:09 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: CS kills virtually all bacteria it comes into contact with. CS does not affect any bacterea in a healthy gut due to being absorbed into the blood stream in the stomach and being immobalized by the stool. It will kill any bacteria in the gut when taken in large amounts, and if the gut is full of liquids so it can have mobility. Assuming that you're correct about this (there is lots of info out there to the contrary), how much would you think would be large amounts that would enable the CS to reach the intestines? MA
RE: CSReason for my Interest in CS
www.silvermedicine.org http://www.silvermedicine.org/ Lots lots of reading here. H. From: debca...@aol.com [mailto:debca...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSReason for my Interest in CS My friend told me about the advantages of CS with her family and dogs. I have a puppy who is being treated for Demedex on strong antibiotics. He has two weeks then he is done with the antibiotic treatment. I know, antibiotics kill good and bad bacteria. Demedex is also caused by stress and an immune system that is not fully developed. My friend told me CS can help build a stronger immune system and help get rid of the Demedex in my puppy. I have never heard of Colloidal Silver ever. I have been reading like crazy. I have found good and bad things about silver. The last thing I want to do is endanger my dog or myself. Any and all information is helpful. Thanks, Debbie
Re: CSQuestion about CS
In a message dated 10/4/05 11:01:05 AM Central Daylight Time, debca...@aol.com writes: Please, help me out with what is true and what is false. I really don't trust making it myself, but there has to be a reputable company out there that sells it. Does anyone buy their CS? Hi Debbie. I used to buy my CS, but it's ungodly expensive. You can purchase it at most any health food store, but it'll cost you up to thirty dollars for 8 oz. For the price of a gallon, you can buy the equipment to make your own, and forevermore your CS will cost you the price of a gallon of distilled water. Can't beat it. And you don't have to *trust yourself* making it -- it's extremely simple. All of the units available have easy-to-read instructions, phone numbers for help if needed, plus you have the collective knowledge of the people on this list. As a group, we haven't found that *more is better* in the matter of ppm's. In fact, I'd be pretty suspect of any product advertised at 100 ppm's. I would wonder what they did to it to enhance those ppm's -- what was added in. A ppm-level of 10 to 12 is perfectly fine for most every application. I've even heard that *less is better* -- and that 5 ppm's will do whatever you need it to. But even up to 20 ppm's is safe and effective. I know that this is all kind of scarey when you're first looking at it, but it isn't scarey at all -- it's simple and a health marvel. MA P.S. I bought my unit at www.wishgranted.com -- it's the Colloid Master. What I like best about it is that it's automatic -- it shuts itself off, so I don't have to hang around waiting for my CS to finish brewing.
RE: CSQuestion - Distemper Raccoons
He had a great smorgasborg, and scattered anything he could not eat. -Original Message- From: Teri Johnston [mailto:t...@welshspringers.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSQuestion - Distemper Raccoons I have cared for many raccoons in this lifetime. Wild, orphan, etc. I do know what you mean did the wild one in your kitchen get into all of your cabinets? LOL Teri At 09:41 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: Have you ever had one in your kitchen for an hour or so? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 9/29/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe Bird Flu
Hello Metaphor, I will appreciate a copy. Jim -Original Message- From: metaphor [mailto:metap...@senet.com.au] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe Bird Flu Hello List , With all the interest in the risks associated with the Bird Flu . I have a PDF file of a book entitled : ' Beat the Bird Flu ' . If anyone would like a copy ? Please let me know , I will send one on to you . address your request to : metap...@senet.com.au Regards Margaret -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
Hello Marmar, You wrote, regarding Marshalls below statement, (there is lots of info out there to the contrary). Will you please direct us to some of that information that disputes Marshalls statement(s). Thank you, Jim -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida In a message dated 10/4/05 11:12:09 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: CS kills virtually all bacteria it comes into contact with. CS does not affect any bacterea in a healthy gut due to being absorbed into the blood stream in the stomach and being immobalized by the stool. It will kill any bacteria in the gut when taken in large amounts, and if the gut is full of liquids so it can have mobility. Assuming that you're correct about this (there is lots of info out there to the contrary), how much would you think would be large amounts that would enable the CS to reach the intestines? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe Bird Flu
Please add me to your list Margaret. And Thanks! Heather -Original Message- From: metaphor [mailto:metap...@senet.com.au] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe Bird Flu Hello List , With all the interest in the risks associated with the Bird Flu . I have a PDF file of a book entitled : ' Beat the Bird Flu ' . If anyone would like a copy ? Please let me know , I will send one on to you . address your request to : metap...@senet.com.au Regards Margaret -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
In a message dated 10/4/05 11:57:07 AM Central Daylight Time, ami...@starband.net writes: Will you please direct us to some of that information that disputes Marshall’s statement(s). Hi Jim. Well, I would if I could. My basic information came from the Synergenesis website, and in a booklet that accompanied my Colloid Master when I bought it. That booklet is no longer available, as the people at Synergenesis struggle to comply with Federal (?) demands to not provide information. I wouldn't mind finding the passage in that booklet that pertains to this, and sharing that with you if you like. I have gleaned additional information to that effect, over the years, from a variety of sources on the net, but don't keep record of such. If I had time, I'd search the net and try to produce it for you. But I can't provide you with links or any *proof* -- sorry. Like most things pertaining to holistic health care, you pick up a little here and a little there -- and it's getting harder and harder to find information at all. I know that Synergenesis's website is a shadow of its former self. MA
CSMA font/color of text :-)
Hi MA, You asked earlier if anyone else was having a hard time with your font/colors. The color comes out as a very pale green on my screen and I have to hit reply then change your font color and increase the size of the font to read it easily. Your font is ariel and I'm writing in veranda. I find veranda a bit easier to read. The font isn't a big deal but the color is hard for me to read - not that I couldn't deal with it mind you :-) I just wrote because you asked :-) Blessings, Lea Ann
Re: CSMA font/color of text :-)
OK -- is this easier for everyone to read? I had no idea that my text was a problem for anyone. MA
Re: CSQuestion about CS
The SG6 unit can be found at http://silvergen.com and the silverpuppy unit at http://silverpuppy.com Marshall debca...@aol.com wrote: Dear Marshall: Thank you for your information. Where can I find SG6 and puppy units? I thank you for the clarification on the Argyria. Any useful links you think might take me in the right direction is appreciated. Thank you. Debbie
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/4/05 11:12:09 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: CS kills virtually all bacteria it comes into contact with. CS does not affect any bacterea in a healthy gut due to being absorbed into the blood stream in the stomach and being immobalized by the stool. It will kill any bacteria in the gut when taken in large amounts, and if the gut is full of liquids so it can have mobility. Assuming that you're correct about this (there is lots of info out there to the contrary), how much would you think would be large amounts that would enable the CS to reach the intestines? MA I am not aware of any testing that has ever been done that would dispute that information. I have read theories as to why CS does not kill the good flora in the intestines that were written before tests were done by me and others to nail down exactly what was going on. My tests have shown that there is no such thing as good bacteria and bad bacteria, and CS kills them all. A good bacteria in the wrong spot becomes a bad bacteria, like eColi in the blood. You cannot even use the information if it is aerobic or anaerobic, since most bacteria can switch between them depending on the environment. Marshall
Re: CSMA font/color of text :-)
:-) It's easier for me - thanks! Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: marmar...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: CSMA font/color of text :-) OK -- is this easier for everyone to read? I had no idea that my text was a problem for anyone. MA
Re: CScolloidal silver and mold
We have a solar-powered Floatron, which has a 4-inch long 2-inch wide solid copper bar, which imparts copper ions to the water through the weak electrical discharge produced by the solar-cells. It takes about three weeks before it builds up the copper content of the water to the point where it works properly. We still use a minimal amount of clorine tabs, but far less than otherwise required. It's pricey, but worth it in just a year's time. We are on our third year with our original Floatron. I live on the Pacific Coast of Oaxaca, where algae will bloom in your bathroom cup. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: Re: CScolloidal silver and mold Bill, Can you indicate how you make the CC and the specifics as to how you use it? Thanks, Dan William Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx 10/3/2005 1:40:55 PM Colloidal copper will, as my sparkling pool in the tropics attests - Original Message - From: Wendy To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: RE: CScolloidal silver and mold So wouldn't that mean you could use it in the pool in place of chemicals??? We use partial ozone, but ozone won't kill algae. Thoughts? wendy -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: October 3, 2005 10:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScolloidal silver and mold CS works great on some molds, but has been reported to not affect other ones. Mold is like algae, a single celled organism that forms branching colonies. Marshall Lea Ann wrote: Hello, CS only works with single cell organisms right? Is mold a single cell organism? I was wondering if I sprayed CS in my shower if it would prevent/clean up the mold? TIA(Thanks In Advance) Blessings,Lea Ann -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSQuestion to MA
Dear MA--Looking at those units on the website, its difficult to tell how they work. How does the water contact the silver electrodes? Thanks, Deborah ps: I can't agree enough about getting your own generator, making your own CS/EIS -- having enough high quality CS to be able to give as samples to others. On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:45:23 -0500, marmar...@aol.com wrote: MA P.S. I bought my unit at www.wishgranted.com -- it's the Colloid Master. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSto deb and trem
Deb, I have actually seen cs sold as 500 ppm. I have posted several times about the safety of this and have never received a re sponse. I wonder after all the reading I do whether or not this is safe. Trem. Try calling this number. They may only sell to medical professionals but you could ask and maybe they would know a doctor in your area that would write you a script. 814-442-4881. It is a pennsylvania number. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScolloidal silver and mold
Dear William--It looks like the Floatron is strictly solar powered, I have sent them an email questioning this. I'd like to find something to suggest for my health club with indoor pool and jaccuzis. The chlorine/chemicals reek so badly I won't even get in. Do you know of anything that operates off another energy source? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSto deb and trem
Betsy Coffey wrote: Deb, I have actually seen cs sold as 500 ppm. I have only seen mislabeled silver protein sold as 500 ppm. I have posted several times about the safety of this and have never received a re sponse. It can cause argyria, it is not true CS. Marshall I wonder after all the reading I do whether or not this is safe. Trem. Try calling this number. They may only sell to medical professionals but you could ask and maybe they would know a doctor in your area that would write you a script. 814-442-4881. It is a pennsylvania number. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTrem..nebulizer.
You can also get these foggers that use the same device as the ultrasonic humidifiers. they use these in the fogger fountains. you jsut placre the little chrome cylinderl in a bowl of water( or CS ) and it makes fog for only 25 bucks http://www.mainlandmart.com/foggers.html Take care, V Dear Trem--The small $20 unit I got from Walgreens (their own brand) is actually called an ultrasonic humidifier. I would only say that mine has been unreliable at times, other times its worked well. But when you need one, you tend to really need it. So if doing it again I'd invest a little more and get a better unit. All the best, DeborahB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
Re: CScolloidal silver and mold
Hi deborah, http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=swimming+pool+ozone http://www.google.com/search?num=50hl=enlr=safe=offq=swimming+pool+ozone+silver+ions Take care, V Dear William--It looks like the Floatron is strictly solar powered, I have sent them an email questioning this. I'd like to find something to suggest for my health club with indoor pool and jaccuzis. The chlorine/chemicals reek so badly I won't even get in. Do you know of anything that operates off another energy source? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
Re: CScolloidal silver and mold
No, I don't, but I'd bet you could substitute copper wire for silver wire and produce colloidal copper instead of colloidal silver with a standard CS unit. - Original Message - From: deborah byron laqueren...@cox-internet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: CScolloidal silver and mold Dear William--It looks like the Floatron is strictly solar powered, I have sent them an email questioning this. I'd like to find something to suggest for my health club with indoor pool and jaccuzis. The chlorine/chemicals reek so badly I won't even get in. Do you know of anything that operates off another energy source? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
Then will you agree that there is not any information available that contradicts his statement? Jim -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida In a message dated 10/4/05 11:57:07 AM Central Daylight Time, ami...@starband.net writes: Will you please direct us to some of that information that disputes Marshall's statement(s). Hi Jim. Well, I would if I could. My basic information came from the Synergenesis website, and in a booklet that accompanied my Colloid Master when I bought it. That booklet is no longer available, as the people at Synergenesis struggle to comply with Federal (?) demands to not provide information. I wouldn't mind finding the passage in that booklet that pertains to this, and sharing that with you if you like. I have gleaned additional information to that effect, over the years, from a variety of sources on the net, but don't keep record of such. If I had time, I'd search the net and try to produce it for you. But I can't provide you with links or any *proof* -- sorry. Like most things pertaining to holistic health care, you pick up a little here and a little there -- and it's getting harder and harder to find information at all. I know that Synergenesis's website is a shadow of its former self. MA
Re: CSQuestion to MA
In a message dated 10/4/05 1:31:44 PM Central Daylight Time, laqueren...@cox-internet.com writes: Looking at those units on the website, its difficult to tell how they work. How does the water contact the silver electrodes? Hi Deborah. You fill a quart jar with distilled water and *hang* the silver bars over the top edge of the jar so that they are immersed in the water, and then attach the alligator clips to the tops of the silver bars. In order to hang the bars, you bend the top of them sort of like a shepherd's hook. Not a great explanation, but the best I can do with just words.MA
CSCS mold,yeast and candida
After reading the bookThe Curse of Louis Pasteur by Dr.Nancy Appleton,PhD,I agree with you Marshall.She says that bacteria,yeast,virus'and molds do have the ability to change and mutate to be able to survive in a hostile environment.They evidently are benign in a healthy body,but change when threatened. HaroldNo virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/118 - Release Date: 10/3/2005
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
In a message dated 10/4/05 12:48:35 PM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: I have read theories as to why CS does not kill the good flora in the intestines that were written before tests were done by me and others to nail down exactly what was going on. My tests have shown that there is no such thing as good bacteria and bad bacteria, and CS kills them all. Well, I would have to take your word for that since I haven't done any testing myself. However, you cannot test what happens inside someone's intestines, can you? It isn't my intention to challenge your testing or your convictions. And I prefer not to become embroiled in a controversy over it. By the way, you did not answer my question pertaining to how much a person would have to consume in order for CS to even reach the intestines.MA
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
In a message dated 10/4/05 2:18:45 PM Central Daylight Time, ami...@starband.net writes: Then will you agree that there is not any information available that contradicts his statement? No. I have information at my fingertips that contradicts his statement. Whether or not it is *available* remains unanswered since trying to find that information elsewhere would require investment of time. You are welcome to do so. I am content with my understanding of the topic. Apparently, you are too. Fine and dandy! MA
CSebay humidifiers
info for trem Reli On Ultrasonic Humidifier - 2 Gal Output - In Box! Item number: 4408649332 sunmark ultrasonic humidifier Item number: 4409204393 Holmes HM485-U2 Ultrasonic Humidifier Item number: 4408655647 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSebay humidifiers
Thanks to all of you. I was thinking there was a small hand held nebulizer out there that was inexpensive. I guess not. So, I'm just going to stick with my fairly large but really powerful ultrasonic room humidifier made by VICKS. It makes a cold, dense fog and all one has to do is breathe in the discharge. Thanks again. I hope this helps you, Best to all, Trem - Original Message - From: Acmeair res00...@gte.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: CSebay humidifiers info for trem Reli On Ultrasonic Humidifier - 2 Gal Output - In Box! Item number: 4408649332 sunmark ultrasonic humidifier Item number: 4409204393 Holmes HM485-U2 Ultrasonic Humidifier Item number: 4408655647 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/118 - Release Date: 10/3/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/118 - Release Date: 10/3/2005
Re: CSQuestion about CS
- Original Message - I really don't trust making it myself, but there has to be a reputable company out there that sells it. Does anyone buy their CS? Not a company, reputable, many folks buy it for their pets. http://home.kc.rr.com/richadams/cstrade.html Rich Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about CS
To All: I wanted to thank everyone for answering my posts. I have a lot of links and a lot of reading to do. Thanks so much. Debbie
CSOzone and pools
In a message dated 10/4/2005 1:01:12 PM Mountain Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: So wouldn't that mean you could use it in the pool in place of chemicals??? We use partial ozone, but ozone won't kill algae. we have an ozone hot tub over 1 year and so far no algae. I use no chemicals. best hot tub in town. Barb
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
Jim intones: Science by implication. Marmar writes: Oh, well. Thank God we've got THAT sorted out. MA I think what James is doing such a lousy job of defending, Mary Ann, is that the claims that CS somehow spares good bacteria are one of the common myths that we have long ago studied (and discussed ad nauseum, of course!) and dismissed. The logic is this: There is no bacterium of any sort that CS won't kill, except a few really strange bugs that have been discovered living in silver-rich mineral deposits in the ground. Even those *lost* their immunity after a few generations of culture in a normal environment. None are pathogenic to humans, as far as we know. That info has come out over the years from scientific publications that people have brought to our attention. Although the kills 650 pathogens is poorly understood and even more poorly documented marketing hype, it still represents a general truth. Second, laboratory tests using nutrient agar plates have been used a number of times to demonstrate that CS does *NOT* work. The problem is that once the agar gels, the silver is immobilized and never reaches the bacteria. The same tests done in nutrient broth media show what you expect: CS kills everything, fast, at surprisingly low concentrations. More references that I couldn't cite, but clearly remember passing through the discussion. Finally... People have taken modest quantities of CS on a regular basis without disrupting their flora. *AND* people have taken CS in sufficient quantities to disrupt the flora after all, including me. Lastly, CS has been used by people with massive diarrhea and it has settled them down. This was mostly anecdotal evidence from our members. The inference from all of that is that CS kills the bugs it can get to, and that, in a solid medium, it loses much of its effectiveness as it loses mobility. CS indeed can be taken in reasonable quantities without disrupting the flora. Other people have observed this and reached the same conclusion we have in that regard. However, what has happened is that some folks have latched onto the wrong explanation as to *why* this is so, and so the myth gets passed around the industry in marketing blurbs written by people who are just repeating what they've read, but not understood. And to answer one question you asked, I think I've heard it said by people who've tried it, that doses on the order of a few pints were sufficient to transit the empty intestines and control whatever bug was causing the diarrhea. I hope that explains the issue. Now, as for *you* James... scowl LOL Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
Science by implication. -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida In a message dated 10/4/05 2:18:45 PM Central Daylight Time, ami...@starband.net writes: Then will you agree that there is not any information available that contradicts his statement? No. I have information at my fingertips that contradicts his statement. Whether or not it is *available* remains unanswered since trying to find that information elsewhere would require investment of time. You are welcome to do so. I am content with my understanding of the topic. Apparently, you are too. Fine and dandy! MA
CSNebulizer
Trem- I can't help but think that you are thinking about the Personal size Ultrasonic Humidifier that is sold in Walgreen's and some catalog outfits. I have two of them, and have bought two more for family members. It's a handy-dandy little thing, but it does not suffice when serious nebulizing is needed. Here in NC, we can no longer buy a nebulizer without a prescription, but I don't know if that's a fed thing or just a policy of the drug store chains. We can still buy them on the 'net; my mother just did. In view of this perceived crackdown(?) I have just ordered and rec'd a cheap airbrush kit from Harbor Freight. When I get it rigged and running I'll post what I think about it here, since I've had lots of experience with a nebulizer. BTW, re: my mother--- Both she and her husband have recently been diligent in the use of CS MSM in a nebulizer and the humidifier. They sold their house, started building a new one, and moved into an old house in the interim. They both caught colds, then became very sick with bronchitis and walking pneumonia. They have been unable to completely recover no matter what they did, including using the prescribed nebulizer meds and inhalers from the doctor. Mom finally realized the old house is moldy and is keeping her sick. This may explain why some people have continuing problems. You can't get well if you're breathing in mold every day. It will soon be fall here; the humidity will diminish and hopefully the house will dry out. The new house is about 2 months from occupation. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #577
off topic now; but I remember where CFG came from. It's Concord Fincncial Group. I studied Foren Exchange trading with them for several years. (FOREX). - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #577 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
In a message dated 10/4/2005 5:50:41 PM Central Standard Time, ami...@starband.net writes: Science by implication. Oh, well. Thank God we've got THAT sorted out. MA
Re: CSQuestion about CS
Check out http://www.rharrisinc.com/products.html He sells reasonable Colloidal Silver. Still, consider making it yourself... Dan Subject: Re: CSQuestion about CS From: Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:30:38 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com - Original Message - I really don't trust making it myself, but there has to be a reputable company out there that sells it. Does anyone buy their CS? Not a company, reputable, many folks buy it for their pets. http://home.kc.rr.com/richadams/cstrade.html Rich Adams -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/118 - Release Date: 10/3/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCFG CHF
- Original Message - From: Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:51 PM Subject: Re: silver-digest Digest V2005 #577 off topic now; but I remember where CFG came from. It's Concord Fincncial Group. I studied Foren Exchange trading with them for several years. (FOREX). - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #577 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTrem..nebulizer.
In a message dated 10/4/2005 7:50:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Deb, I went to a Walgreen's in Silverdale, WA a couple of days ago and The unit I bought is called a personal humidifier not a nebulizer, it is hand held. Walgreen discontinued stocking it. Richard Harris said he sells this same unit. He may have a few on stock. The humidifier had alot of problems where it would quit misting. Walgreen would replace the unit within one year of purchase. Brickey
CSRe: nebulizer
In a message dated 10/4/2005 4:51:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, na...@comcast.net writes: Check out http://www.rharrisinc.com/products.html Brickey
CSRich about making cs
Hi Rich, If I can make cs anyone can...if you follow the very simple but important guidlines you can do it and have it on hand for your family, pet's, plant's and yourself...V who is a member on this site sells a unit for $19.95...and it comes with instructions and he will answer any and all questions you might have along the way...it's that simple :) debbie
RE: CScolloidal silver and mold--making colloidal copper
Can we really do this? I have a SilverGen and I have heard alot of good things about colloidal copper. Would it be safe to drink, making it the same way we make CS? Could I use the ppm meter the same way? And what ppm would be recommended? Thanks Theresa -Original Message- From: William Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScolloidal silver and mold No, I don't, but I'd bet you could substitute copper wire for silver wire and produce colloidal copper instead of colloidal silver with a standard CS unit. - Original Message - From: deborah byron laqueren...@cox-internet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: CScolloidal silver and mold Dear William--It looks like the Floatron is strictly solar powered, I have sent them an email questioning this. I'd like to find something to suggest for my health club with indoor pool and jaccuzis. The chlorine/chemicals reek so badly I won't even get in. Do you know of anything that operates off another energy source? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS mold, yeast and candida
Mike, You have not been reading very carefully. I think what James is doing such a lousy job of defending, Mary Ann, is that the claims that CS somehow spares good bacteria are one of the common myths that we have long ago studied (and discussed ad nauseum, of course!) and dismissed. Marshall said that CS kills all, but generally does not significantly impact the intestinal flora because it is absorbed high in the gut, or immobilized in the stool. Marmar said he had information to the contrary, at his fingertips... I asked to see some of it, and he said he could not produce it. That is when I responded with the Science by implication statement. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS mold, yeast and candida Jim intones: Science by implication. Marmar writes: Oh, well. Thank God we've got THAT sorted out. MA I think what James is doing such a lousy job of defending, Mary Ann, is that the claims that CS somehow spares good bacteria are one of the common myths that we have long ago studied (and discussed ad nauseum, of course!) and dismissed. The logic is this: There is no bacterium of any sort that CS won't kill, except a few really strange bugs that have been discovered living in silver-rich mineral deposits in the ground. Even those *lost* their immunity after a few generations of culture in a normal environment. None are pathogenic to humans, as far as we know. That info has come out over the years from scientific publications that people have brought to our attention. Although the kills 650 pathogens is poorly understood and even more poorly documented marketing hype, it still represents a general truth. Second, laboratory tests using nutrient agar plates have been used a number of times to demonstrate that CS does *NOT* work. The problem is that once the agar gels, the silver is immobilized and never reaches the bacteria. The same tests done in nutrient broth media show what you expect: CS kills everything, fast, at surprisingly low concentrations. More references that I couldn't cite, but clearly remember passing through the discussion. Finally... People have taken modest quantities of CS on a regular basis without disrupting their flora. *AND* people have taken CS in sufficient quantities to disrupt the flora after all, including me. Lastly, CS has been used by people with massive diarrhea and it has settled them down. This was mostly anecdotal evidence from our members. The inference from all of that is that CS kills the bugs it can get to, and that, in a solid medium, it loses much of its effectiveness as it loses mobility. CS indeed can be taken in reasonable quantities without disrupting the flora. Other people have observed this and reached the same conclusion we have in that regard. However, what has happened is that some folks have latched onto the wrong explanation as to *why* this is so, and so the myth gets passed around the industry in marketing blurbs written by people who are just repeating what they've read, but not understood. And to answer one question you asked, I think I've heard it said by people who've tried it, that doses on the order of a few pints were sufficient to transit the empty intestines and control whatever bug was causing the diarrhea. I hope that explains the issue. Now, as for *you* James... scowl LOL Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScolloidal silver and mold--making colloidal copper
I have no idea. We are in uncharted waters for me. Perhaps some of the wiser minds out there can respond. - Original Message - From: Theresa Widmer tlwid...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: RE: CScolloidal silver and mold--making colloidal copper Can we really do this? I have a SilverGen and I have heard alot of good things about colloidal copper. Would it be safe to drink, making it the same way we make CS? Could I use the ppm meter the same way? And what ppm would be recommended? Thanks Theresa -Original Message- From: William Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScolloidal silver and mold No, I don't, but I'd bet you could substitute copper wire for silver wire and produce colloidal copper instead of colloidal silver with a standard CS unit. - Original Message - From: deborah byron laqueren...@cox-internet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: CScolloidal silver and mold Dear William--It looks like the Floatron is strictly solar powered, I have sent them an email questioning this. I'd like to find something to suggest for my health club with indoor pool and jaccuzis. The chlorine/chemicals reek so badly I won't even get in. Do you know of anything that operates off another energy source? Thanks, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for my dogs
Debbie, It's best to make your own EIS at around 10ppm. If you need to purchase it the best silver by far is Sovereign Silver. They make a silver hydrosol 10ppm that is very well made with little to no agglomeration of the particles. It is 90% ionic, same as when you make it yourself. Health food stores carry this brand but they have a web site as well. Don't let anyone fool you... ionic is best because the ions are + charged... they are attracted to - charged single celled organisms like bacteria, virus, and some fungus. Silver must contact the offending organism in order to kill it, the smaller the particle size the better. Good luck. - Original Message - From: debca...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: CSCS for my dogs To All: A friend of mine told me about CS for my dogs. She also told me about this site. I found a website that claims to sell 100ppm CS. She said it might be bogus, and to try asking here at this CS forum. I am just learning about CS, and I want to get as much information as possible before I start using it or ordering it. Can someone give me a reputable place to order CS from. I would order 32oz. at a time. Maybe a gallon, because there is no expiration date. Thanks for the help and the information. Debbie
Re: CS24 hour treatment worked
Connie, That sounds great but I don't believe humans get distemper... at least not from raccoons. My wife is another matter...! - Original Message - From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: CS24 hour treatment worked Just wanted to post about a treatment I took last night.I had been in close proxsimity to the raccoon who had I believed distemper. and in a enclosed enviorment. Around 3 pm I began getting a clogged feeling in my ear and a pre-smyptom in my throat. Also, I had a dull ache in my sholders. I was feel kinds foggy like I was coming down with flu/cold/etc. At 8pm (after sleeping for a hour) I began gargling with collodia silver (20 ppm; approx) and then swollowing. I also took 1500 Mg l-Lysine and 2000 Mg Vit C (the good kind). I prepared my special drink that I normally take when these symptoms began; large mug of hot water distilled with 1 lg tablespoon honey (the good kind) and a couple capfulls of Apple Cider Vinger (the good stuff). At 2 am I did the same thing again. I then took 2 - 3mg Melitona and 2 muscle relaxers. This morning only a small feeling remains of what could have been a full blown attact. Just in case someone may find this usefull connie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT: got birds??
*Dear Listmembers, Just wondering, do any of you keep birds of any kind?? I`m getting big into finches right now, and would love to talk birds with folks, privately, of course, so we don`t make Mike mad... :o) PLMK!!! Marshalee * -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about CS
Debbie, Yes the best CS is clear... the more yellow the color the larger the particles and the greater the agglomeration you want small particles that don't stick together... 10ppm is more than adequate to kill any pathogen. You don't need 100 - 1000 ppm for anything... in fact it isn't true CS if it is of that concentration... it is most likely a mild silver protein being sold as CS. - Original Message - From: debca...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about CS Dear Marshall: Is CS supposed to be crystal clear? I have been doing research and some companies advertise it looks like a tea. Is that the correct color of CS or is it supposed to be crystal clear? I really need to learn a lot more about CS. Also, I have read about graying of the skin. I forget the technical name of it. I have also, read, that if you take CS with too high a ppm, that is what causes the graying of the skin. Please, help me out with what is true and what is false. I really don't trust making it myself, but there has to be a reputable company out there that sells it. Does anyone buy their CS? Thanks, Debbie
CSRe: colloidal silver and mold
-Original Message- From: William Missett ...I'd bet you could substitute copper wire for silver wire and produce colloidal copper instead of colloidal silver with a standard CS unit... - Wondering why our low-voltage DC devices work with silver and possibly other metals, and knowing they don't with gold, what determines the dividing line? jr -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/118 - Release Date: 10/3/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
