Re: CS>water oz,miracle soap - home made soap. Nitrogen query.

2005-11-12 Thread Rowena
It's not that hard to make your own soap, and then you know what's in it.  I 
made some this year, only the second time in my life, and it turned out 
quite good despite all my "mistakes".   If I can do it . . .

I was just a schoolgirl when I made my first batch of soap; an uncle 
visiting from the country brought us a gift - a few packs of lard, which we 
were not in the habit of using.  As far as I recall, I just added caustic 
soda, but maybe I've forgotten a step.  We used that for years; it went as 
hard as anything.

This time I wanted originally to make a soap with no salicylates, which 
would mean using animal fat rather than vegetable, as far as I could work 
out.  So I bought some lard, then decided to add some commercial RBD coconut 
oil anyway (Copha) and also bought some olive oil specially for the job. 
Ended up not using the olive oil this time (next time!).  Added epsom salts 
and borax, one by mistake because I thought it was the other, but I forget 
which way round.  I think I may have added CS.  I stirred it with a twig of 
wormwood.  My little salute to Hulda.Fantastic soft lather, and great 
for washing clothes.  Gave some as presents, people seemed to like it.  It 
probably qualifies for title of "superfatted".

I collected recipes off the net, and used the one that seemd to most closely 
resemble the ingredients I had on hand.  For all the recipes, I basically 
ended up using Hulda Clark's, then added ideas from other sites.  Next time 
I'll make some with the olive oil I bought, as it's not the same quality I 
use for eating, and some tinned CNO I bought.

Then I plan to just make coconut oil soap thereafter, which VCNO oil I will 
buy from Kokonut in Canberra, Australia.

Question: What is the effect of putting nitrogen in a fat?  I bought a 
couple of cans  of coconut oil made in Singapore, and looking at the website 
of the makers I see they treat it with nitrogen for "freshness" - so I 
suppose we could call it nitrogenated as opposed to hydrogenated? 
http://www.simedarbyepl.com.sg/products2.html "CBC is saturated with 
nitrogen before it is packed to keep the oil fresh." My friend who also 
bought some of this same oil said it tasted absolutely horrible, so she is 
only using it on her skin.
I don't feel like eating it at that rate, but thought using it for soap 
might be OK - but am I in danger of washing in nitrites and nitrates? 
Anybody know about nitrogen?

Rowena
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CS>teeth, re silver crown

2005-11-12 Thread Bill Keen
Well Ruth, 
 
With a mouthful of silver crowns you shouldn't need CS one would think.  The 
mercury amalgam fillings are so toxic that most dentists do not use them 
anymore and everyone that I know that has had theirs removed has had a marked 
improvement in their overall health and usually a definite memory gain.
 
On the other hand, pulling all of them has very few benefits.  Yes, you get to 
take them out to brush without stretching your mouth all out-of-whack.  But, 
the gums will stay sore for quite some time, in most cases, until the 'contact 
points' get callused.  And then there is the hassle of having to do without 
while they are being repaired/replaced.
 
And then there is the 'goop' that holds them in place.  Have you ever tried it?
 
I am in favor of keeping whatever you can with either gold or silver crowns to 
replace amalgam fillings.
 
Bill Keen



CS>"God's" Creation?

2005-11-12 Thread Bill Keen
Wow!
 
In MY family, the only one as dumb as a vegetable had been struck by lightning! 
 Genesis tells us that everything was made for man.  Killing and eating flesh 
was the result of Adam's sin and began after they were expelled from the Garden 
of Eden.  The fruits and grains were always meant for man to consume.
 
As for forgiveness, He is faithful and just to forgive AFTER you have 
successfully repented.  Until you have changed your thinking to stop sinning He 
CAN'T forgive the ongoing sins.  Sin is in the thought, not the deed.  Deeds 
are the result of thoughts.
 
Bill Keen


CS>

2005-11-12 Thread jrowland

Chuck writes:
> Great straight line Bob...SPAM is Pork Butt!!
"...

In 1937, Hormel started canning the chopped pork shoulder that we see 
today. The government told them they could not call it "ham" so, after a 
brain storming session, the name Spam was born..."


http://www.texascooking.com/features/march2003hormelspamham.htm
jr



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CS>Re:Nenah Rife box

2005-11-12 Thread Siriusss
 
Not advanced just greedy.  The diabetic foot clinic of a major  hospital  her 
in LA was approached by a ritzy sports medicine company who  was selling  
what amounts to a Rife box at $10,000 a machine and $3000 for  a home model 
they 
could sell possibly  to medicare patients.  The  treatments were several 
hundred bucks a pop and my husband was one of the first  guinea pigs.  Me with 
my 
big mouth recognizes the  outrageously  expensive machine as a Rife Machine and 
 I start blabbing about how you can  get one of these on the web at cheaper 
prices and suddenly the hospital canceled  the treatments and the experiment.
 
So am major Catholic Hospital was using Rife boxes with success until they  
found out they were Rife boxes. Go figure!
 
Update- Blood sugar at 177 and dropping. I  think what happened was  that the 
sugar was brought low by the CS and he spiked it and was not hungry so  his 
body began breaking down fat which kept the sugar high. He had a salad and  
more CS tea and his sugar began dropping.
 
We will see tomorrow in the AM.
 
Harper
 
In a message dated 11/12/2005 6:24:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
ne...@bestweb.net writes:

Wow, that was some advanced hospital to use Rife equipment!  If you'd like a 
source of good machines from reputable manufacturers, you can  contact me 
offline.
 
Best,
Nenah



 


CS>raw dairy

2005-11-12 Thread Betsy Coffey
If anyone has a whole foods market in their area, they
sell raw organic milk and cheese. I havent yet found a
source of grass fed eggs.Barbara, is their a web site
that you could post about raw dairy? thanks



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Re: CS>CS and blood sugar question Nenah Rife box

2005-11-12 Thread V
Hi Nenah,

I checkd a friend of mines blood sugar one time and it was like 68 and he as in 
a normal state.  Diabetes can be cured with diet, simply get off the carbs and 
eat protien and fat.

http://homodiet.netfirms.com/disorders/diabetes1.htm

http://homodiet.netfirms.com/disorders/diabetes2.htm

http://biblelife.org/carbs.htm

Our Deadly Diabetes Deception
Greed and dishonest science have promoted a lucrative worldwide epidemic of 
diabetes that honesty and good
science can quickly reverse by naturally restoring the body's blood-sugar 
control mechanism   

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/DiabetesDeception.html


Take care,
 V


> - Original Message - 
> From: siriu...@aol.com 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:59 PM
Subject: CS>>CS and blood sugar question Nenah Rife box


> My husband is a brittle diabetic.  He also has MRSA and Charcot foot and
> osteomylitis. He also began drinking CS last week 16 oz a day 10ppm.

> My question- How does CS affect blood sugar level? His blood sugar is 
> currently maintaining itself at 250 and he is not hungry. There could be a 
> couple reasons for this.

> 1. a low grade fever but he does not seem to have one. Nor does he feel sick

> 2. B3  is being added to his diet in 500 mg increments gradually until
> we reach 3.5 grams daily. we are at 1.5 grams the last half gram added
> this morning. B3 has an adverse effect on insulin but according to
> University of Florida studied it can kick start the pancreas.  it 

> 3.  He is being weaned off insulin and the insulin may be dropping too fas.

> 4. His sugar did a dangerous bounce yesterday hitting 60 and he got
> scared and ate 2 small candy bars  and a raisin scone (comfort food-he is
> a Scotsman)  and a 12 oz cup of coco because he was sick of being good.

> I am wondering if the low blood sugar was because of the CS

> Any ideas?

> Nenah I will have to explain to you about the hospital putting a very
> expensive RF box on his foot. It worked great until I stupidly said  "WOW
> is that a Rife Box?" Never saw it again.

> Harper
> 
> Harper,
> One thing I've learned from my many years of researching Rife technology
> is that anything can be caused or exacerbated by microbes. Anything. This 
> includes diabetes.

> A few years ago I conducted a seminar for health care professionals.
> (This was the same seminar where I was given mineralized water for a CS
> demonstration, which produced a silver compound solution.) The woman who
> worked in the naturopath's office that hosted the seminar volunteered to
> be a subject for a demo with the Rife equipment. She was diabetic. She
> took her blood sugar just before sitting with the equipment.

> After about one-half hour, her blood sugar dropped 40 points. There are
> some frequencies in my Rife Handbook that come with a warning to monitor
> blood sugar levels carefully because they can cause a sudden drop.

> Which brings me to my next point. Rife technology does more than kill
> critters. It also helps to normalize the system (new data is coming in on 
> this).

> However...since the CS appeared to lower your husband's blood sugar
> level, this *strongly* suggests to me that microbes are involved.

> Wow, that was some advanced hospital to use Rife equipment! If you'd
> like a source of good machines from reputable manufacturers, you can contact 
> me offline.

> Best,
> Nenah

> Nenah Sylver, PhD
> http://www.nenahsylver.com
> * The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing
> * The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
> * products and services for wellness



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Re: CS>CS and blood sugar question Nenah Rife box

2005-11-12 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - 
From: siriu...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:59 PM
Subject: CS>CS and blood sugar question Nenah Rife box


My husband is a brittle diabetic.  He also has MRSA and Charcot foot and 
osteomylitis. He also began drinking CS last week 16 oz a day 10ppm.

My question- How does CS affect blood sugar level? His blood sugar is  
currently maintaining itself at 250 and he is not hungry. There could be a 
couple reasons for this.

1. a low grade fever but he does not seem to have one. Nor does he feel sick

2. B3  is being added to his diet in 500 mg increments gradually until we reach 
3.5 grams daily. we are at 1.5 grams the last half gram added this morning. B3 
has an adverse effect on insulin but according to University of Florida studied 
it can kick start the pancreas.  it 

3.  He is being weaned off insulin and the insulin may be dropping too fas.

4. His sugar did a dangerous bounce yesterday hitting 60 and he got scared and 
ate 2 small candy bars  and a raisin scone (comfort food-he is a Scotsman)  and 
a 12 oz cup of coco because he was sick of being good.

I am wondering if the low blood sugar was because of the CS

Any ideas?

Nenah I will have to explain to you about the hospital putting a very expensive 
RF box on his foot. It worked great until I stupidly said  "WOW is that a Rife 
Box?" Never saw it again.

Harper

Harper,
One thing I've learned from my many years of researching Rife technology is 
that anything can be caused or exacerbated by microbes. Anything. This includes 
diabetes.

A few years ago I conducted a seminar for health care professionals. (This was 
the same seminar where I was given mineralized water for a CS demonstration, 
which produced a silver compound solution.) The woman who worked in the 
naturopath's office that hosted the seminar volunteered to be a subject for a 
demo with the Rife equipment. She was diabetic. She took her blood sugar just 
before sitting with the equipment.

After about one-half hour, her blood sugar dropped 40 points. There are some 
frequencies in my Rife Handbook that come with a warning to monitor blood sugar 
levels carefully because they can cause a sudden drop.

Which brings me to my next point. Rife technology does more than kill critters. 
It also helps to normalize the system (new data is coming in on this).

However...since the CS appeared to lower your husband's blood sugar level, this 
*strongly* suggests to me that microbes are involved.

Wow, that was some advanced hospital to use Rife equipment! If you'd like a 
source of good machines from reputable manufacturers, you can contact me 
offline.

Best,
Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD
http://www.nenahsylver.com
* The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing
* The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
* products and services for wellness



CS>CS and blood sugar question Nenah Rife box

2005-11-12 Thread Siriusss
My husband is a brittle diabetic.  He also has MRSA and Charcot foot  and 
osteomylitis. He also began drinking CS last week 16 oz a day 10ppm.
 
My question- How does CS affect blood sugar level? His blood sugar is   
currently maintaining itself at 250 and he is not hungry. There could be a  
couple 
reasons for this.
 
1. a low grade fever but he does not seem to have one. Nor does he feel  sick
 
2. B3  is being added to his diet in 500 mg increments gradually until  we 
reach 3.5 grams daily. we are at 1.5 grams the last half gram added this  
morning. B3 has an adverse effect on insulin but according to University of  
Florida 
studied it can kick start the pancreas.  it 
 
3.  He is being weaned off insulin and the insulin may be dropping too  fas.
 
4. His sugar did a dangerous bounce yesterday hitting 60 and he got scared  
and ate 2 small candy bars  and a raisin scone (comfort food-he is a  Scotsman) 
 and a 12 oz cup of coco because he was sick of being good.
 
I am wondering if the low blood sugar was because of the CS
 
Any ideas?
 
Nenah I will have to explain to you about the hospital putting a very  
expensive RF box on his foot. It worked great until I stupidly said  "WOW  is 
that a 
Rife Box?" Never saw it again.
 
Harper


Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
Greetings V,
 
This came through with flying colors.
 
"Ole Bob"




CS>When a filter filters things you don't want it to filter...

2005-11-12 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Berger 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>is alkaline water necessary for making good CS...?


Nenah, for some reason your posts appear on my spam list.

What are you doing???

"Ole Bob"

==
Chuckle. I don't think I'm doing anything, Bob. This once happened with someone 
else. Turns out his spam filter thought "best" was a catchword for marketing, 
and thus decided that the entire email was spam. 

I think I will change my email address from "bestweb.net" to one that 
synchronizes with my website address. I don't think that any filter could 
construe "nenahsylver" as spam.

Of course, I've been wrong before  ;-)

Nenah

Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Barbara
No, but no earthquakes in Florida, thank goodness LOL 

Barbara




  Hi Barbara,

  Yeah no hurricanes here either he he he :-)


   V




Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Barbara
Nothing sinister, "Ole Bob" :)  I'm using Mozilla Firefox for my browser, 
Outlook for the email program and Norton for virus protection.  That's it.  I'm 
innocentreally! 

Barbara



  V, Barbara, Hurd Cornstoves,

  your emails come through as spam. What are you doing that'ss wrong??

  "Ole Bob"



Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Barbara
Hi Mary, 

Thank you for your reply.  I do know how wonderful fresh, unadulterated milk 
and all other food is.  I was growing my own veggies and fruits organically and 
boy, they all were delicious. 
Mary, did you ever go on a milk diet?  Raw, of course :)  
More than a year ago I was on it for a month.  On Raw Dairy list there is a man 
who is on that diet for 20 months, last I heard. 
Yes, tell me about our "free" country :(((  Well, keeping people sick is to the 
advantage of big pharma.  There is no money in healthy people.  
Wow, raw, fresh apple juice sounds great too!  
Thank you Mary for the advice, I'm heading to freecycle now!  
You are GREAT :) 

Barbara





  Hi Barbara,
  You might want to check out www.freecycle.org & ask for free-range eggs in 
your area.
  Search for organic or other local garden clubs and they may know homesteaders 
near you..
   Asking outright for raw milk will scare away farmers.
  They are obliged to heat the heck out of their milk before selling it.
  There is a gov't/grocery/medical conspiracy against whole-food products.

  If you see ads for natural-grown meats, that might be someone to meet and ask.
  No farmer will risk their livelihood selling raw products to strangers.
  BUT! WOW - that fresh milk is so great!
  Butter I hand-made from fresh cream is so superior to the rancid grocery junk.
  Network and look around.
  It took me over 6 years to find my new source.
  They'll have to kill me before I tell them where I get the goods.
  Besides, it is a new friend who brings the healthy foods to me.
  I'm not (yet) trusted to know what farm they came from.
  What a "free" country we live in. (not)
  Don't tell anyone, but I'm making raw apple juice, too.
  My cancer came about when my only food source was the dead-food grocery 
store, so no one can blame raw-food nutrients for my cancer!

  Best wishes, Barbara!
  Once you taste the real thing, you will gag at the processed junk.
  Love,
  Mary



Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread V
Hi Barbara,

Yeah no hurricanes here either he he he :-)


 V


> You have it easier in CA because it is legal.  The raw milk in Florida
> is illegal and what I buy from the HFS is marked for pets only, not for
> human consumption which of course doesn't bother me one bit.  

> Barbara
>


>   I Calif raw milk is $8 a gallon in the store and $15 a pound for the
> raw butter. they have ordering online.

>   http://www.organicpastures.com/

>V




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Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread V
Hi Robert,

Check this on to see if it come through as spam. I deleted the HTML from this 
one. in my program it shows html emails as attcahments, so I see everything as 
text. Some spam filters also key off of some urls in the emails.

Take care,
 V


> V, Barbara, Hurd Cornstoves,
>  
> your emails come through as spam. What are you doing that'ss wrong??
>  
> "Ole Bob"



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Re: CS>[List Owner] Caution...

2005-11-12 Thread V
Hi Robert,

I use The Bat as an email client and some spam filters ar ethriggered by that.




Take care,
 V


> Mike this can through with no problem.
>  
> I have to check my spam list as "V's" email generally are on the spam list as 
> Nenah's.
>  
> "Ole Bob"

> "M. G. Devour"  wrote:
> I dunno, Bob! Maybe it's the []'s in the subject line, or some other 
> spam has been using the word "Caution" a lot??? Let me know how *this* 
> one turns out!

> Mike D.


>> Mike, for some reason your email on pork appeared on my spam list and
>> not on my regulaor email list. HOW"S COME??
>> 
>> "Ole Bob"
>> 
>> 
>> 

> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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> [Speaking only for myself... ]


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Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Barbara
You have it easier in CA because it is legal.  The raw milk in Florida is 
illegal and what I buy from the HFS is marked for pets only, not for human 
consumption which of course doesn't bother me one bit.  

Barbara
   


  I Calif raw milk is $8 a gallon in the store and $15 a pound for the raw 
butter. they have ordering online.

  http://www.organicpastures.com/

   V




Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
V, Barbara, Hurd Cornstoves,
 
your emails come through as spam. What are you doing that'ss wrong??
 
"Ole Bob"

V  wrote:
I Calif raw milk is $8 a gallon in the store and $15 a pound for the raw 
butter. they have ordering online.

http://www.organicpastures.com/

V


> Mary! Where do you live? Raw milk in Florida goes for incredible $12 a
> gallon! If I go to the health food store, I pay 
> $8 but it is Holstein not Jersey. Fresh eggs $3.50 a dozen. 
> Wow, I envy you your luck 

> Barbara




> In my quest for healing, I found a supplier of no-antibiotic, 
> grain/grass-fed beef - 1/4 cow delivered today at under $2/#.
> Thru www.freecycle.org, I met a local lady (with similar Christian views)
> who brings me fresh, clean cow milk and cream and farm eggs.
> Milk $1.50-gallon and eggs $1/doz.
> It pays to research and keep looking for the best nutrition for your $.

> Love,
> Mary 





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Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
Hi Barbara,
You might want to check out www.freecycle.org & ask for free-range eggs in your 
area.
Search for organic or other local garden clubs and they may know homesteaders 
near you..
 Asking outright for raw milk will scare away farmers.
They are obliged to heat the heck out of their milk before selling it.
There is a gov't/grocery/medical conspiracy against whole-food products.

If you see ads for natural-grown meats, that might be someone to meet and ask.
No farmer will risk their livelihood selling raw products to strangers.
BUT! WOW - that fresh milk is so great!
Butter I hand-made from fresh cream is so superior to the rancid grocery junk.
Network and look around.
It took me over 6 years to find my new source.
They'll have to kill me before I tell them where I get the goods.
Besides, it is a new friend who brings the healthy foods to me.
I'm not (yet) trusted to know what farm they came from.
What a "free" country we live in. (not)
Don't tell anyone, but I'm making raw apple juice, too.
My cancer came about when my only food source was the dead-food grocery store, 
so no one can blame raw-food nutrients for my cancer!

Best wishes, Barbara!
Once you taste the real thing, you will gag at the processed junk.
Love,
Mary



Re: CS>[List Owner] Caution...

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
Mike this can through with no problem.
 
I have to check my spam list as "V's" email generally are on the spam list as 
Nenah's.
 
"Ole Bob"

"M. G. Devour"  wrote:
I dunno, Bob! Maybe it's the []'s in the subject line, or some other 
spam has been using the word "Caution" a lot??? Let me know how *this* 
one turns out!

Mike D.


> Mike, for some reason your email on pork appeared on my spam list and
> not on my regulaor email list. HOW"S COME??
> 
> "Ole Bob"
> 
> 
> 

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com ]
[Speaking only for myself... ]


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Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread V
I Calif raw milk is $8 a gallon in the store and $15 a pound for the raw 
butter. they have ordering online.

http://www.organicpastures.com/

 V


> Mary!  Where do you live?  Raw milk in Florida goes for incredible $12 a
> gallon!   If I go to the health food store, I pay 
> $8 but it is Holstein not Jersey.  Fresh eggs $3.50 a dozen. 
> Wow, I envy you your luck 

> Barbara




>   In my quest for healing, I found a supplier of no-antibiotic, 
>   grain/grass-fed beef - 1/4 cow delivered today at under $2/#.
>   Thru www.freecycle.org, I met a local lady (with similar Christian views)
>   who brings me fresh, clean cow milk and cream and farm eggs.
>   Milk $1.50-gallon and eggs $1/doz.
>   It pays to research and keep looking for the best nutrition for your $.

>   Love,
>   Mary 





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Re: CS>[List Owner] Caution...

2005-11-12 Thread Kathelee

Hi..how do i get to the groups homepage to change
my settings please ..
the pages at thebottom didn't open ?
thanks
kathelee
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From: "M. G. Devour" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Caution...



I dunno, Bob! Maybe it's the []'s in the subject line, or some other
spam has been using the word "Caution" a lot??? Let me know how *this*
one turns out!

Mike D.



Mike, for some reason your email on pork appeared on my spam list and
not on my regulaor email list. HOW"S COME??

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Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Barbara
Mary!  Where do you live?  Raw milk in Florida goes for incredible $12 a 
gallon!   If I go to the health food store, I pay 
$8 but it is Holstein not Jersey.  Fresh eggs $3.50 a dozen. 
Wow, I envy you your luck 

Barbara




  In my quest for healing, I found a supplier of no-antibiotic, 
  grain/grass-fed beef - 1/4 cow delivered today at under $2/#.
  Thru www.freecycle.org, I met a local lady (with similar Christian views) 
  who brings me fresh, clean cow milk and cream and farm eggs.
  Milk $1.50-gallon and eggs $1/doz.
  It pays to research and keep looking for the best nutrition for your $.

  Love,
  Mary 





Re: CS>water oz,miracle soap

2005-11-12 Thread Sarah

Mary,
  If you do start a blog, could you email me your link? We are totally on 
the same page.

Thanks,
Sarah on Tennessee
sarah.gr...@charter.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Hurd's Cornstoves" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: CS>water oz,miracle soap



Ode, I understand your ire at MLM - I'm right there with ya...
Years ago, I discovered a soap similar to M2 on the internet for much
cheaper, but later searches proved fruitless.
There are some good, long-time wholesale Miracle II buyers/sellers on the
web and they were also hurt by the MLM fiasco.
It started out promising, with the ability to purchase at competitive 
prices

thru MLM.
Then, the former marketing manager started his own MLM; with much
back-stabbing and FUD (fear, uncertainty & doubt)
I paid about $17 for a bottle of M2 soap and it has lasted me over a year
for showering, washing hair and brushing teeth - and I still have a
half-bottle.
My Husband uses the Ivory soap, and I'm happy to learn that Ivory contains
ingredients I approve of.
Thankfully, we've had no allergic reactions from Ivory.
We also have the Bronners, and that's a great soap, too.  It lasts a long
time.
Perfumed things are hard on my system.
I pay much more for non-perfumed laundry detergent and wish fels naptha 
soap

was available in our area so I could make my own detergent.
Someone sent me a great recipe, but I could not find fels naptha 
ingredient

anywhere. sigh.

Hey, you folks are so informative and wonderful!
I didn't realize my questions would cause a calamity.
With my cancer scare, detox "cold" and a tight budget, I'm trying to find
out what's best.
I'm thinking of starting a blog (like a diary of my healing research).
Something to keep me moving forward and thinking positive, while sharing
what I'm learning.
CS is definitely one of the greatest additions to healthy living.
'Sorry I led the group off-topic, but thank you ALL for the wisdom and
sharing!
It will be great when the archives are available again, and I'd like to 
find

more info about CS production.
Some of the electronic stuff is beyond me.  I'm studying many other
protocols, too.
My brain can only hold so much.
Thanks for understanding.
With Love and Appreciation to All,
Mary





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Re: CS>[List Owner] Caution...

2005-11-12 Thread M. G. Devour
I dunno, Bob! Maybe it's the []'s in the subject line, or some other 
spam has been using the word "Caution" a lot??? Let me know how *this* 
one turns out!

Mike D.


> Mike, for some reason your email on pork appeared on my spam list and
> not on my regulaor email list. HOW"S COME??
> 
> "Ole Bob"
> 
> 
> 

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Re: CS>Distilled water maker

2005-11-12 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
The Sears distiller appears identical to the white model shown at the below 
site.
You don't have to pay shipping, can purchase cleaner and return item if not 
satisfied.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I like the idea of carbon-filter pre-cleaning water before distilling.
I have the pre-2000 Berkie (black model with decanter under it) and need 
more filters.
Does anyone have a good source for the filters?
I also need a new filter for my alkalizer machine.
It all add$ up.
For the Berkie, I'll use the nice spring water I get up the road.
Our well water is very "mineralized?".
Thanks, Mary restq...@verizon.net

I got mine here---the $99 one. http://wholesalewaterdistillers.com/
I've been told some of this model do not distill water pure enough for
EIS making. When I ordered mine, I specifically made sure they would
take it back if mine didn't distill the water to my satisfaction. I've
been very pleased with mine.
sol





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Re: CS>[List Owner] Caution...

2005-11-12 Thread cking001
Great straight line Bob...
Because SPAM is Pork Butt!!

BWAHahahaha.

Chuck
As long as we're going insane, we might as well go the whole way. A
mere shred of sanity is of no value.

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> Mike, for some reason your email on pork appeared on my spam list and not
> on my regulaor email list. HOW"S COME??
> 
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Re: CS>is alkaline water necessary for making good CS...?

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
Nenah, for some reason your posts appear on my spam list.
 
What are you doing???
 
"Ole Bob"


Re: CS>[List Owner] Caution...

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
Mike, for some reason your email on pork appeared on my spam list and not on my 
regulaor email list. HOW"S COME??
 
"Ole Bob"




Re: CS>Square or round wires?

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Faith,
 
Yes square would make a difference. The process is wet surface area dependent.
 
A square of  one millimeter wire has more surface area than a one millimeter 
diameter wire.
 
The square would be 4 X width x wet length and the wire wouild be 3.1416 X 
diameter x wet length.
 
That difference would change the brew time for the same current density.
 
"Ole Bob"




Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread cking001
Thanks Terry, good stuff!

Amazing that actual useful info pops up even on proselytizing
threads eventually.
Where did you get info on Reams?
Sounds like Dr William Campbell Douglas, another outspoken and
interesting writer doctor.

Chuck
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares,
 for if you hit a man with a ploughshare, he'll know he's been hit


On 11/12/2005 10:15:26 AM, Terry Chamberlin (tcj...@yahoo.ca) wrote:
> I know this subject has been officially closed, and
> Mike may slap my hand, but I wanted to contribute a
> last note on the *avoid these meats* idea.
> 
> Dr. Carey Reams had a client once whom he was working
> with. The mans health would not respond to anything
> Reams was doing with him, it was driving him crazy. He
> asked the man to keep a log of everything he ate
> during the next week. The log showed the man ate bacon
> most breakfasts, had ham several times per week. So
> Dr. Reams suggested he omit all pork from his diet.
> The mans health (and chemistry) began to immediately
> improve. Dr. Reams began to test different foods to
> see what affect they had on human chemistry (over his
> life, he tested over 50,000 food substances). He
> assembled a list of meats that always interfered with
> the human body in its healing/rebuilding efforts. This
> list was nearly identical to the list of meats
> forbidden to Jews in the Old Testament (no religion
> here, just amazing coincidence).
> 
> Dr. Reams reached the point where, if a client would
> not agree to omit these meats from their diets, he
> would not treat them. He said it was a waste of time,
> their chemistry would not improve.
> 
> As a rule of 


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Re: CS>is alkaline water necessary for making good CS...?

2005-11-12 Thread Kathelee
thanks.:)
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  From: Robert Berger 
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  Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:12 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>is alkaline water necessary for making good CS...?


  Kathelee

  If you want to change the final product to alkaline then get a 1/2 liter 
bottle and fill it with DW and then add 1/8 tsp of baking soda. That will be 
the solution that you add to your EIS.

  Add about a tsp of that mixture to a gallon of EIS and then measure with 
litmus paper that is available at most health food stores.

  Adjust the quantity added to get the pH that you want.

  "Ole Bob"


  Kathelee  wrote:
will that change ph to alkaline please? 



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Re: CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
In my quest for healing, I found a supplier of no-antibiotic, 
grain/grass-fed beef - 1/4 cow delivered today at under $2/#.
Thru www.freecycle.org, I met a local lady (with similar Christian views) 
who brings me fresh, clean cow milk and cream and farm eggs.
Milk $1.50-gallon and eggs $1/doz.
It pays to research and keep looking for the best nutrition for your $.
I believe veggies and fruits should be my mainstay; and proteins in 
moderation.
My hubby had a heart attack last year and I'm slowly training him (a Harley 
dude) to a more alkaline diet.
He actually wants to try my zapper tonite!  Prayers answered!
Wait til I get my CS machine out... I've been using the last of my water oz 
silver... so time to make my own again.
I have the Hulda Clark zapper and also Beck's brain tuner and another 
machine of his.
I didn't want to give up garlic, which Beck abhor(ed- he's passed away), so 
I haven't gotten into his machines.
I also have an EMT machine, but cannot find the accompanying video - $800 
sitting on a shelf, unused.
I want my hubby to learn muscle-testing, which seems promising.
Hanna Kroeger's books are great - I have several, including one about tumors 
and cysts.
She says you can muscle test to find the cause of your tumor/cyst.
Onward and upward in the quest for Truth and Health,
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Re: CS>is alkaline water necessary for making good CS...?

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
Kathelee
 
If you want to change the final product to alkaline then get a 1/2 liter bottle 
and fill it with DW and then add 1/8 tsp of baking soda. That will be the 
solution that you add to your EIS.
 
Add about a tsp of that mixture to a gallon of EIS and then measure with litmus 
paper that is available at most health food stores.
 
Adjust the quantity added to get the pH that you want.
 
"Ole Bob"


Kathelee  wrote:
will that change ph to alkaline please? 
 


Re: CS>to Sol: would just cooking do?

2005-11-12 Thread sol
No, because boiling water actually would concentrate some contaminants. 
You'd increase the mineral content, for example. And I think things like 
fertilizers which may be present in water from run off would also be 
concentrated.

If I'm wrong someone please set me straight.

What a distiller does is boil the water in the tank, and the steam rises 
and goes into coiled tubing where it condenses and from there the 
condensed steam drips into the collection bottle. So all the minerals, 
and most other contaminants are left behind. Of course certain things 
that can be in water are volatile, and cross in the steam, which is why 
I have to double distill my tap water in order to get it pure enough to 
make clear EIS.

sol

Faith Saint Francis wrote:


Respected Sol,
Thank you for your time.
Our water is "said" to be clean (beer -which I don't drink- is brewed 
right from the tap...).
So: would it do to just cook our water, and then process it with the 
wires and the batteries?

We cook for drinking anyways.
Faith




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Re: CS>30-35ppm CS

2005-11-12 Thread sol

I bet you made silver nitrate.
sol

Bill Keen wrote:

Well, I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for with So I am 
interested in how you managed to get 30-35 ppm, despite the large 
floating particles.


 

I have made ~300ppm which was absolutely clear.  This was with my HVAC 
CS Generator.  I made this strength to provide a concentrated solution 
to be diluted for use to about 15ppm.  However, my daughter took some 
with an eyedropper and squirted it down her throat.  She said that it 
tasted horrible.


 


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Re: CS>CS large particles and bad batch idea - Aloe

2005-11-12 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
I've been taking pieces of aloe vera stalk and placing them on my neck lump 
while relaxing at night.
The coolness is so soothing and my lump seems to get smaller when I do this.
Question: What if I used CS water for watering the aloe vera?
People who end up with cloudy or large particle batches - how about watering 
medicinal plants with it?
Aloe needs little water.  It just grows and grows, no matter what.
Do you think the silver properties could make the aloe more beneficial?
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Re: CS>water oz,miracle soap

2005-11-12 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
Ode, I understand your ire at MLM - I'm right there with ya...
Years ago, I discovered a soap similar to M2 on the internet for much 
cheaper, but later searches proved fruitless.
There are some good, long-time wholesale Miracle II buyers/sellers on the 
web and they were also hurt by the MLM fiasco.
It started out promising, with the ability to purchase at competitive prices 
thru MLM.
Then, the former marketing manager started his own MLM; with much 
back-stabbing and FUD (fear, uncertainty & doubt)
I paid about $17 for a bottle of M2 soap and it has lasted me over a year 
for showering, washing hair and brushing teeth - and I still have a 
half-bottle.
My Husband uses the Ivory soap, and I'm happy to learn that Ivory contains 
ingredients I approve of.
Thankfully, we've had no allergic reactions from Ivory.
We also have the Bronners, and that's a great soap, too.  It lasts a long 
time.
Perfumed things are hard on my system.
I pay much more for non-perfumed laundry detergent and wish fels naptha soap 
was available in our area so I could make my own detergent.
Someone sent me a great recipe, but I could not find fels naptha ingredient 
anywhere. sigh.

Hey, you folks are so informative and wonderful!
I didn't realize my questions would cause a calamity.
With my cancer scare, detox "cold" and a tight budget, I'm trying to find 
out what's best.
I'm thinking of starting a blog (like a diary of my healing research).
Something to keep me moving forward and thinking positive, while sharing 
what I'm learning.
CS is definitely one of the greatest additions to healthy living.
'Sorry I led the group off-topic, but thank you ALL for the wisdom and 
sharing!
It will be great when the archives are available again, and I'd like to find 
more info about CS production.
Some of the electronic stuff is beyond me.  I'm studying many other 
protocols, too.
My brain can only hold so much.
Thanks for understanding.
With Love and Appreciation to All,
Mary





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Re: CS>Distilled water maker

2005-11-12 Thread sol

I got mine here---the $99 one. http://wholesalewaterdistillers.com/
I've been told some of this model do not distill water pure enough for 
EIS making. When I ordered mine, I specifically made sure they would 
take it back if mine didn't distill the water to my satisfaction. I've 
been very pleased with mine.

sol


Deborah Gerard wrote:

Anyone have any suggestions on where to get the best price for a 
distilled water maker? I presently use the American Fare distilled 
water Kmart has been selling it by the gallon for 4 for two 
dollars...thanks much debbie




 




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Re: CS>Fish

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote

It won't keep the aglae down, nor will it hurt the fish.
Available silver surface area is virtually nil.

Ode

At 10:27 PM 11/11/2005 -0600, you wrote: 

If one has a small fish pond outside, is it possible to keep the water more alge free if you put small particles of silver in. I don't think this should hurt the fish.  I was thinking of the tiny pieces I have left over when the rods have worn thin
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Re: CS>Square or round wires?

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote
  Round is better as edges and corners concentrate ion discharge in those
spots.
 They will become rounded anyhow.

Ode

At 09:46 PM 11/11/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Hello to my Friends on this wonderful Forum!
>Alas! I can spend so very little of time amidst you-people.
>Now enjoying my weekend I take the opportunity to put to you this question:
>
>For the first time in my CS existence I have purchased two twelve
>centimeters (two millimeter diameter) wire for the home-making of CS we do, 
>and it serves me well.
>Methinks it will last a good bit longer than the 0,8 mm wires I used before.
>
>One question of the goldsmith kept me pondering: Do I make the wire
>(I ordered 1 meter in all, to have a bit of spare) round or square?
>Well, I asked for rounded wire, but would square make any difference?
>
>Then again: Where we live this is quite costly. Is a charge
>for the bottles one makes for interested third parties legitimite?
>I broke a lance to give it out freely before, but we should be aware
>of our own cost:
>The bottles of pure water, purchase of batteries every month or so, the
>Wires ($ 90 for mentioned one meter). These are mounting costs!
>Thank you for reading this, and looking forward to your advice,
>Faith
>
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Re: CS>is alkaline water necessary for making good CS...? Nenah

2005-11-12 Thread sol
The problem to me with filtering is in addition to losing some silver, 
you are also adding a bunch of godknows what.


Of course, I still use a filter for coffee :-) . But I prefer not to 
filter my EIS. When I pour it out of the brew jar, I sometimes leave the 
larger bits of silver behind in the jar,  but mainly I simply don't 
worry about them, they are only pure silver after all. I am not really 
understanding why people think these bits which are what has fallen off 
the electrodes during silver making are a problem. If my EIS has a mix 
of ions and tiny particles, I don't worry about a few larger particles 
being in there. And after taking the time and trouble to put silver into 
the DW, why filter any of it out again and waste it?

sol

alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:


Maybe I'm getting a mix of sizes of particles. The small ones go through
the coffee filter.  Actually, I'm basing my "guesstimate"  of ppm on use
of the conductivity meter , which reads approx. 66. 

 




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Re: CS>30-35ppm CS

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
  HVAC USER !!!
 
If you are using an arc and do not have a CO2 gas cover on your tank then you 
are generating very large quantities of silver nitrate.!!!
 
I doubt you measurement of 30 -35 PPM.
 
I have spend many hours and test runs on HVAC as Dr Bill Biagiolio and I were 
the developers of the process. 

You cannot determine the PPM with a PWT as the product is highly acidic and the 
readings are useless.
 
I can check for NO3 and NO as well as Ag+, with my spectrophotometer.
 
If you don't have a CO2 gas cover then DO NOT drink it.
 
"Ole Bob"
 


Re: CS>30-35ppm CS

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
HVAC USER !!!
 
If you are using an arc and do not have a CO2 gas cover on your tank then you 
are generating very large quantities of silver nitrate.!!!
 
I doubt you measurement of 30 -35 PPM.
 
I have spend many hours and test runs on HVAC as Dr Bill Biagiolio were the 
developers of the process. 

you cannot determine the PPM with a PWT as the product is highly acidic and the 
readings are useless.
 
I can check for NO3 and NO as well as Ag+.
 
If you don't have a CO2 gas cover then DO NOT drink it.
 
"Ole Bob"



At 08:06 PM 11/11/2005 -0800, you wrote: 





Well, I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for with

,bfbf,6060
So I am interested in how you managed
to get 30-35 ppm, despite the large floating particles.






I have made ~300ppm which was absolutely clear. This was with my HVAC CS
Generator. I made this strength to provide a concentrated solution to be
diluted for use to about 15ppm. However, my daughter took some with an
eyedropper and squirted it down her throat. She said that it tasted
horrible.





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Re: CS>water oz,miracle soap

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote
 MLM is merely a pyramidal structure.
 Pyramids put a lot of load on the bottom layer. [The uninvolved consumer
is the bottom most layer]

 Producer/wholesale/retail/consumer is a lot more fair to the
consumer...only 4 layers.
 Co-op is only 2 or 3 layers. Producer/consumer or
Producer/wholesale/consumer. 

..if YOU are the producer?

You can reach the consumer on the internet and/or just be the consumer.

If you don't know and don't do, you pay something to those who do know and
do. [and pay their tax load]

I'm too cheap to pay a mechanic, machinist, welder, plumber, home builder
etc etc... so I became one and drive a new $1600 car and live in a new
[ish] $20,000 house.

Ode

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>Everyone has their own opinions. I have done the googling and reading,  
>which is in fact, what caused me to form my opinion.
>It is the difference between how we think. What attracts one person will 
>be a total turn off to another.
>I have no interest whatsoever in spending any of my cash (hard earned) 
>on anything at all from either of those companies.
>What other people find worth their money is up to them. I did not state 
>my opinion in order to offend anyone, but hopefully to stimulate people 
>considering those products to look into them as you suggested.
>And at whatever point MLM comes into any operation, my own experience is 
>that MLM is synonymous with SCAM.
>sol
>
>Hurd's Cornstoves wrote:
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>>***
>>Miracle II products are good, imho.
>>Please google Miracle II and learn for yourselves.
>>One should NOT condemn Miracle II before investigating and using the 
>>product.
>>  
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Re: CS>New to list and CS

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote


  The $ key and the 4 key are only a shift key apart.
Common error in high speed typoing.

Ode

Typo nagitive blod?



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>Four Hundred and ten dollars 
>
>What ARE you drinking besides CS Bob?
>
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>On 11/11/2005 5:07:57 PM, Robert Berger (bober...@swbell.net) wrote:
>> Hello Newbies,
>> 
>> www.jameco.com sells a 120 vac to 24 vdc for 410.49, part #252857CH.
>> 
>> The output is nearer 27 volts and things work alot better.
>> 
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CS>teeth, re silver crown

2005-11-12 Thread ruth strackbein

From Ruth Strackbein: I just had my bi-annual dental checkup.  Dentist tells me I have a cracked filling on a tooth that holds my partial plate.  He recommends fixing it with a silver crown.   Does anyone have any pros or cons about this procedure, especially the use of silver?  This would remove the amalgam filling that is presently in there.  Another tooth is a dead tooth that this dentist says from X-rays that it is okay.  There is a pocket next to it which continues to be tender. I am tempted to have the rest of my teeth removed and go to "store" ones.  Cheers, Ruth  P.S. Thanks for your reply LeAnn. 


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Re: CS>30-35ppm CS

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote

How do you know it is 300PPM and do you use an open arc?

Ode


At 08:06 PM 11/11/2005 -0800, you wrote: 

Well, I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for with So I am interested in how you managed to get 30-35 ppm, despite the large floating particles.




I have made ~300ppm which was absolutely clear.  This was with my HVAC CS Generator.  I made this strength to provide a concentrated solution to be diluted for use to about 15ppm.  However, my daughter took some with an eyedropper and squirted it down her throat.  She said that it tasted horrible.




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Re: CS>Pork as food?

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote
At 06:00 PM 11/11/2005 -0800, you wrote: 

When you really investigate the animals that the Bible prohibits from the diet, you will find that the only ones banned are the 'garbage processors' that eat the filth and process it.


All fish without scales and fins are sharks and catfish.  These are carrion eaters.


Birds - song birds are allowed but the carrion eaters aren't, eagles, vultures, all birds of prey.

### ..and chickens who will eat their own rotten dead and the maggots on them. [but won't go near a dead rattlesnake for some reason..but I will.  YUMMIE!]

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Re: CS>New to list and CS

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote
 You can also wire 2 12 volt $2 thrift store wall warts in series and get 24 volts...more like 36v at the load you'll be pulling.

Ode

At 02:07 PM 11/11/2005 -0800, you wrote: 

Hello Newbies,


www.jameco.com sells a 120 vac to 24 vdc for 410.49, part #252857CH.


The output is nearer 27 volts and things work alot better.


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Re: CS>CS burning eyes

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote
 Actually, it takes a 'little' bit of time to complete the process.
Add saline and use immediately...then discard the balance.
As per using CS [EIS] in the eyes, tears are saline and the same thing will happen in a little while.
In the meantime, things aren't quite so mean and it really does work.

I've never found that distiller water only slight stinging sensation to be all that disagreeable.
You can feel it, but it doesn't "hurt".

Beats pool water, ey?

Ode

At 02:01 PM 11/11/2005 -0800, you wrote: 

Stop right Here 


The moment that you add salt to an ionic silver solution ALL of the silver will form silver chloride and dropout of suspension and is useless.


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Re: CS>BSE/CJD/kuru/scrapie

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote
 
 Don't worry, be happy.
It's a dangerous world, and then you die ...laughing?
[if you live long enough]

  BSE is like the cannibals laughing sickness [exactly the same disease?]
and comes from eating nerve and brain tissue of infected animals.
 That means it's a carnivour and omnivours disease.
 Modern farming has seen fit to feed cattle with animal byproducts.
But then.
 BSE/CJD/kuru/scrapie  has also been found in deer and elk in the USA.
 Last I looked, deer and elk weren't exactly hunters.
 Could it be that modern humanitarian efforts have seen fit to feed deer
and elk modern cattle feed?
 There are many feeding programs in the country, one such is the Boy Scouts
"mission" in Jackson Hole WY.

 On the other hand, a deer could be grazing on grass where a carnivour
died and prions are pretty hardy.

 Anyhow
Don't eat any laughing pigs or spastic grass.

..interesting read...

http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/udder.htm

"If there are coherent universes contained inside coherent universes,
microcosms above and below, why can't germs have feelings and aspirations?
As germs go, this one was a bug with imagination. It wasn't interested in
crawling on the savannah of Papua, in some blade of grass, It wanted 'the
big time,' so it waited until a chipmunk ate the grass, the aborigine ate
the chipmunk then the germ tap-danced up the poor man's brain stem to the
man's brain, eating holes in his gray matter until the cerebrum resembled a
big, gray sponge and the host became spastic, mindless and started
laughing, as mindless people everywhere do, only this fellow would laugh
himself to death and then, as if to 'get' the joke, his children ate his
brain."

..ever notice how itchy your eyes get when someone sneezes?

Ode


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>> Hi,
>>
>> Are you talking about prions, as in BSE?  Are you saying they are in pork?
>> Just curious.
>>
>
>I am not aware of pork ever having any prion problems.  I think the
problem is
>that pigs are carnivorous and thus know how to deal with this type of thing,
>but cows are herbivores and never ate meat, so they are very susceptible.
>Humans are omnivorous, and are less susceptible than cows, but still somewhat
>susceptible.  Interestingly due to BSE neither my wife nor I will eat beef,
>but we do eat pork.
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Re: CS>CS eye spray

2005-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote
Yes.
Test that by spraying distilled water into the eyes.
To me, it feels the same.

ode

At 04:11 PM 11/11/2005 +, you wrote: 

i made my mom a 5ppm cs and she is using it as a spray for her sore eyes..she says it burns a littl ebut then it feels fine afterwards..is the buring normal with cs???
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CS>Meats, etc.

2005-11-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
I know this subject has been officially closed, and
Mike may slap my hand, but I wanted to contribute a
last note on the *avoid these meats* idea.

Dr. Carey Reams had a client once whom he was working
with. The mans health would not respond to anything
Reams was doing with him, it was driving him crazy. He
asked the man to keep a log of everything he ate
during the next week. The log showed the man ate bacon
most breakfasts, had ham several times per week. So
Dr. Reams suggested he omit all pork from his diet.
The mans health (and chemistry) began to immediately
improve. Dr. Reams began to test different foods to
see what affect they had on human chemistry (over his
life, he tested over 50,000 food substances). He
assembled a list of meats that always interfered with
the human body in its healing/rebuilding efforts. This
list was nearly identical to the list of meats
forbidden to Jews in the Old Testament (no religion
here, just amazing coincidence). 

Dr. Reams reached the point where, if a client would
not agree to omit these meats from their diets, he
would not treat them. He said it was a waste of time,
their chemistry would not improve.

As a rule of thumb, Reams said, “Do not eat animals
that eat dead animals”. We have no trouble with
avoiding vultures or jackals, we have more trouble
with lobster, crab (both bottom-feeders), and pork.
Dr. Reams said to avoid regular tuna (“The pigs of the
ocean”), which are bottom-feeders. White Albacore Tuna
is good, it only eats what it catches.

Reams explanation for the problem with these animals
has to do with frequency. As you may know, everything
has a unique molecular frequency. Good Food is defined
as those items that mesh with, add to or join to our
own frequency ("ionize", to be exact). The real reason
why strychnine is poisonous to us is because its
frequency destroys our own. Otherwise we could eat it.
(Not saying it would be nutritious.)

Reams explained that, as the general decline of health
in the human race continues, more and more food items
will not harmonize with the human frequency and will
aggravate human health problems. Simplistically put,
allergies are foods/substances that our bodies are
having trouble harmonizing/ionizing with, because our
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Re: CS>Re:Nenah Handbook Excerpt Question

2005-11-12 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
Nenah, I can't get the link to open, but found some links by looking around 
your wonderful website.
Question: Does anyone here know where I can send a R Machine to be serviced?
I have one purchased over 10 years ago and it doesn't seem to work.
There's a local friend who knows electronics, but he's not familiar with 
this technology.
Perhaps there's a trouble-shooting guide somewhere?
Please e-mail off-list, if you want - restq...@verizon.net
Thanks, Mary

>Oh, by the way, there's an article about water and minerals on my =
>website. It's an excerpt from my Rife Handbook. Go to: =
>http://www.nenahsylver.com/default.asp?contentID=3D706&toplevel=3D618
>Best wishes,
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CS>Making CS

2005-11-12 Thread Doug & Laurie
Hi All,
I have accidently deleted my info on what is the best way to make CS 
for myself. I had info on actual machines that did it very well. Can 
any one send me their info on what they feel is the best way to make 
it? Thanks so much in advance.

Laurie

 
 

Re: CS>Distilled water maker

2005-11-12 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
I have 2 distillers from Sears (about $100).  
They also sell the cleaning powder, but white vinegar works great, too.
One of the distillers I found new, unopened at a yard sale - yippie!!!
Another distiller I own (but haven't used) is distills water and extracts 
essential plant oils.
http://www.keystonehomebrew.com/index.cfm?pgid=spirits
The 1 gallon is $325 and I paid around $425 for the 7-gallon size.
You can also distill alcohol with them, but that's illegal in the US and most 
states.
http://www.stillspirits.com is the maker of this distiller; with pages of 
instructions you can read.
Hope this helps! Mary



CS>RE: CS >30-35ppm CS

2005-11-12 Thread Bill Keen
How do they work. 
 
<> They use High Voltage (15,000 volts {15Kv}) of AC.  One silver electrode is 
placed into the water.  My unit has High Voltage cable with an alligator clip 
on the end.  I just clip a "Trader's Round" on and bend it so that the coin is 
mostly under water.  Do NOT let the steel alligator clip get into the water.  
The water will tend to 'climb' up while the unit is running.
 
The other lead had a silver wire clipped on and it is suspended about 1/4 inch 
above the surface.  This limits the current to produce smaller particles.
 
I use a 1/2 gallon Pyrex bowl to hold the DW for 'cooking'.
 
How long does it take to make 300 ppm? 
 
At 15Kv the unit will produce 15ppm per pint per hour.  The 300 ppm cooked for 
about 20 hours and is probably much stronger as the temperature of the DW 
continuously goes up and so does the current.

 
Where can I buy one at? 
The man that made these no longer does so.  However, the power supply is a 
commercial Neon Lamp power supply which should be available worldwide.
 
In the last week (?) there was a post for making a CS Gen out of a microwave 
oven.  THis is intriguing!  I am planning on trying it.  Not only does it 
salvage a microwave in which the bad part is usually the magnetron (removed to 
use for CS) it also provides a measure of safety in that it only works with the 
oven door closed.  Neat.  
 
The source of the Neon supply should have the high voltage wiring you will need.


Re: CS>God's creation?

2005-11-12 Thread debbie cozens
God made fruit trees and vegetable for us to eat to surviveHis plan is 
perfect but man messed up so badly...thankfully we are forgiven !!:-)
Debbie

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Yes vegetables are our brothers in creation also!  So what does one eat?
 
Did you ever notice how the creatures live off the death of others to survive?  
Do you seriously believe that an omnipotent, omnipresent, omnicient God is 
responsible for the "creation" that appears to our eyes?  Man in the fallen 
state (separated from God) has created this world!


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Re: CS>Distilled water maker

2005-11-12 Thread Wayne Laurents
The cheapest  vinegar does an excellent job of cleaning these distillers 
and its not as poisonous as the exensive stuff.


Wayne


Hi Raine,

Cool deal. I found if I run the water through a carbon block filter first then 
it takes some of the crap out of the water and you may not have to clean the 
distiller as often. the stuff they give you to clean it orks real good. I jsut 
fill the distiller up past the point here it has mineral deposits nad then add 
a bunch of that powder and turn it on without the top on and let the ater get 
good and hot and let it sit for a few hours after that and it eats most of the 
mineral deposits right off. I do that about once a month. the rest of the time 
I jsut rinse it out between batches.




Take care,
V


 

I also have one that looks just like this. I got it on eBay for $97 
w/free shipping and a 1 year, unconditional warranty. I'm totally happy 
with the distiller, but not with how often I have to clean it (once a 
week due to a lot of crap in the water!). It's definitely doing it's job.
   



 


-Raine
   



 





Re: CS>God's creation?

2005-11-12 Thread Grace1way
Hi y'all:
 
Yes vegetables are our brothers in creation also!  So what does one  eat?
 
Did you ever notice how the creatures live off the death of others to  
survive?  Do you seriously believe that an omnipotent, omnipresent,  omnicient 
God 
is responsible for the "creation" that appears to our eyes?   Man in the fallen 
state (separated from God) has created this  world!


Re: CS>Distilled water maker

2005-11-12 Thread V
Hi Raine,

Cool deal. I found if I run the water through a carbon block filter first then 
it takseo some of the crap out of the water and you may not have to clean the 
distiller as often. the stuff they give you to clean it orks real good. I jsut 
fill the distiller up past the point here it has mineral deposits nad then add 
a bunch of that powder and turn it on without the top on and let the ater get 
good and hot and let it sit for a few hours after that and it eats most of the 
mineral deposits right off. I do that about once a month. the rest of the time 
I jsut rinse it out between batches.




Take care,
 V


> I also have one that looks just like this. I got it on eBay for $97 
> w/free shipping and a 1 year, unconditional warranty. I'm totally happy 
> with the distiller, but not with how often I have to clean it (once a 
> week due to a lot of crap in the water!). It's definitely doing it's job.

> -Raine

> V wrote:

>>Hi Deborah,

>>I have one like this and it works very nicely. I bought it here.
>>http://www.elixa.com/distiller/index.html





>>Take care,
>> V

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Re: CS>Distilled water maker

2005-11-12 Thread Raine
I also have one that looks just like this. I got it on eBay for $97 
w/free shipping and a 1 year, unconditional warranty. I'm totally happy 
with the distiller, but not with how often I have to clean it (once a 
week due to a lot of crap in the water!). It's definitely doing it's job.


-Raine

V wrote:


Hi Deborah,

I have one like this and it works very nicely. I bought it here.
http://www.elixa.com/distiller/index.html





Take care,
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Re: CS>Distilled water maker

2005-11-12 Thread V
Hi Deborah,

I have one like this and it works very nicely. I bought it here.
http://www.elixa.com/distiller/index.html





Take care,
 V


> Anyone have any suggestions on where to get the best price for a
> distilled water maker? I presently use the American Fare distilled water
> Kmart has been selling it by the gallon for 4 for two dollars...thanks much 
> debbie


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Re: CS>CS burning eyes

2005-11-12 Thread debbie cozens
Thank youwhere can i obtain info like this from???
Its great to have so many people helping on this list.:-)
blessings
Debbie

Robert Berger  wrote:
Stop right Here 
 
The moment that you add salt to an ionic silver solution ALL of the silver will 
form silver chloride and dropout of suspension and is useless.
 
"Ole Bob"




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Re: CS>RE: Bill on Bible foods

2005-11-12 Thread debbie cozens
i missed bills post.would someone please forward it to me
Raw food is best!!!
Blessings
Debbie

Deborah Gerard  wrote:
Bill...I totally agree with your post on the Bible foods ...Father our creator 
certainly knows bestdebbie


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