Re: CS>CS comparisons [calling all Lymies]

2006-02-27 Thread Ode Coyote



  LOL..well there ya go

Ode [Ken]


At 07:50 AM 2/26/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Ken,

They use a couple of SG7 Pro generators.  Only takes one but I guess they
sell quite a bit and need volume production.


Trem
www.silvergen.com

- Original Message -
From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS comparisons [calling all Lymies]


   Without actually testing it in a good lab, it's hard to say, but it
sounds like the good stuff people make at home with a well designed setup.
  For the "ionic"  or "EIS"  [Electrically Isolated Silver] category up to
20-25  PPM...
Clear and colorless is best.
  Pale yellow is still good.
  "Yellow" is usable.

Bio Alt is probably as good as it gets.
The process sounds about right. "constant current reverse polarity
process"  [ Can be ticklish to get the "best" results and no mention of the
nuances which can make a somewhat dramatic difference...but they likely
worked it out.]

The analysis published only mentions PPM...not quite "detailed".
http://bio-alternatives.net/analysis.htm
"Particle size as small as .001 micron " doesn't mention the 'as big
as' part.
"Produced with 99.9% Fine Pure Silver"  ..coulda used 4 nines silver, but
no big deal.  3 nines is quite OK.

They mention that going to 12 and over PPM leads to agglomeration of
particles and "colored" CS [EIS]
Hummm, well, yea, sorta.
   Making clear and colorless, stable "Ionic" or EIS CS over around 20-25
PPM gets a bit iffy and unreliable, but it can be done.
10 PPM is easy and plenty strong, so I can see why they'd want to go about
there.
12 to 20 PPM isn't "too" hard, but if a huge batch goes wrong, that's a lot
to throw away.

Ode

At 10:32 PM 2/25/2006 -0500, you wrote:

>Okay, I've purchased CS from Bio Alternatives which is not in the
>comparison
>list. I did the salt test with no cloudiness. It is crystal clear. After
>reading that article I am confused. Should it be clear or not! I have read
>things in the past about some saying it should be yellow. Anybody know
>anything about Bio Alternatives? They are very reasonable in price and I
>actually spoke with someone there who assured me no salts or proteins were
>used.  I'd like to hear from some more lymies my self. Every bit of
>hope helps. 11  years of antibiotics  has taken its toll.  But the
>alternative to what my life is like without them is no contest. Heidi
>
>From: "Ode Coyote" 
>To: 
>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:16 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>CS comparisons [calling all Lymies]
>
>
> >Natural Immunogenics silver is exactly what ASAP solution  from
>American
> > Biotech is.  is exactly what well made home brew is. ["Silver
>Hydrosol"
> > ...to use a coined term]
> > They make it like much you can make it and it all contains both ionic
> > and
> > metallic silver in various ratios.
> >   American Biotech, in fact, once used off the shelf home generators to
> > make their product. [and not really good ones at that]
> >   Their "innovation" was to add a stirring paddle and to crow about now
> > virtually untrackable patents that, if finally found, turn out to be
> > meaningless.
> >   Their particle sizing methods are questionable. [As are their
>definitions
> > of what a particle is]
> >
> >   I just now found this and it's just like logic predicts...thank you
> > Frank...I've said the same thing in a much more opaque way. [You made it
> > 'clear']
> > http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/TEM.html
> >
> > What else?
> > http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutParticleSize.html
> > [Dang Frank!!  busy fellow!  Whew!  At LAST!]
> >
> > That they are both out to "sell" silver water with exaggerations, is not
> > questionable...but it is good stuff. [Just not significantly "different"
> > stuff.]
> >
> > This is a very good resource for comparisons...
> > http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
> >
> > If you want a more 'small particulate metallic silver' without the
> > protein
> > binders/stabilizers, go with Frank Keys Sovereign Silver.
> >
> > Some people swear by it, some at it and I have no opinion one way or the
> > other except that home brew has some of both ends of the 'which is
> > better'
> > debate included and a few other things that aren't well known to exist.
> > [Not "better" doesn't mean doesn't work]
> > It's been a long and convoluted debate with no conclusions in sight.
>[wink]
> >
> > There's no doubt in my mind that very fresh home brew has properties
> > that
> > the same thing that's 24 hours old doesn't and THAT is easily proven
> > with
> > hydrogen peroxide reaction observations.
> >   [Better?  I dunno.  I "think" so with some observations to maybe back
> > it
> > up.  Different? yes... No "proof" of "better". ]
> > But it's not something you can buy. [shelf life is way too short]
> >
> > Don't worry and try a few things out.
> >   There have been successes dealing with Lymes.
> >
> > C'mon Lyme'ies speak up!
> >   I know ya'll are out there with 

Re: CS>70 PPM CS

2006-02-27 Thread Ode Coyote
  The big question is how does he know it's 70 PPM "silver" and not 70 uS 
carbonic acid AND silver. [From bubbling carbon dioxide through the water]


But..doesn't sound impossible to do, or even unlikely. [Just iffy and 
probably wasteful]

Is it colorless?

Running in series puts half the voltage and current in each cell.

The one time I ran a batch with peroxide 'in the water'  *as the batch 
ran*  resulted in HUGE shiny flakes of silver like one of those snow scene 
paperweights. Very pretty, quite useless.

Conductivity didn't ever exceed 13 uS and I let it run for days.

Ode

At 04:39 PM 2/26/2006 -0300, you wrote:


Hi Group.
This came off another list, just wanted to get some opinions here,
He states he produces 70 ppm CS. What I cant understand is how running the 
two jars in series works. I can understand running them in parallel but 
not in series. TIA

Sam

   This is his setup in a nutshell

System' is set up with 2 - 1 quart glass mayonnaise jars with original 
lids.  Each jar has 2 electrodes,which are . (certified) Canadian 
Maple leaf $5 coins.  The coins are drilled w/small holes near the top, 
where hangers made from .%
silver wire thread through the coins and, twisted in a cork-screw pattern 
and feed out of small holes in the plastic jar lids, where
leads are attached, as never to come in direct contact w/the distilled 
water. The electrodes in each jar are approx. 1.25 inches apart.
Both jars are wired in series, current must pass through one jar (coins 
and water) to get to the second, before looping back to the
PS. The Power supply is a 30VDC (rated) but actually reads 35VDC on a volt 
meter. The .6ma CLD (current limiting diode) is jumpered and
alligator clipped in series (for ez replacement with various rated CLDs if 
needed) in the circuit to keep the current from going
over .6ma. I also have a potentiometer (variable resister - or radio 
volume knob) in the circuit so I can manually control the current if I

want to.
My stirring device, which also brings oxygen into the water, theorizing 
the effect of hydrogen peroxide adding oxygen to silver
water, which has been shown to keep silver particles very small, is a 
modified aquarium bubbler with a air line splitter to feed both jars.




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CS>Over dose/gray face

2006-02-27 Thread Medwith, Robert
Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
 
   Bob


Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread M. G. Devour
One thing to avoid like the plague are the "services" that capture all 
your e-mail and send a "validation" message back to the sender that 
requires them to respond, proving that there's a real person on the 
other end of the e-mail address, before letting a message through to 
the user.

I generally won't respond to those, personally, and they're a nightmare 
for mailing lists. Every person who posts to the list ends up getting a 
validation message from each list member using such a service. The 
first one of those I see in my mailbox, that member is suspended until 
they've proven to me that they've whitelisted the list properly.

Haven't seen one in a while. Maybe they're getting less popular.

Be well,

Mike D.

> Cloudmark is work very well for me, well worth the $3.99 per month. Best
> Regards, Arnold Beland - Original Message - From: "Marshall
> Dudley"  To:  Sent:
> Monday, February 27, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner]
> Investment spam posts?
> 
> 
> > Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had
> > 10,000 spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today
> > but delete spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my
> > mail, and I need a good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on
> > it, but even at 90% effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it
> > over a weekend.  It seems that every time I look for a good spam
> > program they tell me I have to switch to outlook for my mail client,
> > but there is no way I am trading spam for viruses and worms, I would
> > rather deal with the spam.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > "M. G. Devour" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everybody! Your list owner is ON THE JOB!!!
> >>
> >> Okay, when one of these investment posts came through from somebody
> >> calling themselves b...@verizon.net, I figured that a member thought
> >> it was interesting and sent it along. It would have been nice if they
> >> had said something so we knew why they wanted to post it, but, in
> >> fact, it was talking about using ozone for food sanitation... a
> >> relatively obvious alternative health reference.
> >>
> >> Then a *second* copy comes under a different Subject line, from the
> >> same address. Now this starts looking like SPAM.
> >>
> >> So I went and checked the subscriber file and we don't even *have* a
> >> b...@verizon.net ... and when you think about it the odds of anyone
> >> even having an address like b...@... from any large domain is pretty
> >> much nil. I'm sure b...@verizon.net was taken the first day verizon
> >> was handing out userid's, probably to an employee, and that person is
> >> unlikely to be a member here. It's most likely a forgery.
> >>
> >> Digging a bit deeper, it turns out these *were* spam, and they got
> >> posted because we have an extremely similar user name already
> >> subscribed, and I had the threshold for accepting submissions set to
> >> "tight" but not "exact," and that was good enough to let it through.
> >>
> >> I've changed it now so the list server requires an *exact* match to
> >> the subscriber list entry. I hope this won't cause anyone a problem
> >> posting. If that happens, let me know. My personal e-mail address is
> >> in the footer at the bottom of every list message.
> >>
> >> Thought you'd all like to know... 
> >>
> >> Be well,
> >>
> >> Mike D.
> >> list security guard... 
> >>
> >> --- Forwarded message follows ---
> >> Date forwarded: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:47:20 -0800
> >> From:   "Bill" 
> >> To: 
> >> Date sent:  Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:47:19 -0500
> >> Forwarded by:   silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Send reply to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Subject:CS>Investors profit on last minute trading
> >>
> >> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]
> >>
> >> Ticker Symbol: PDSC.PK  Buy  Aggressively
> >>
> >> Last Trade: 0.082
> >> AVG Vol: 1,107,198
> >> Short Term Target: +0.67
> >> Long Term Target: +2.00
> >>
> >> We believe serious news is on the horizon that can blow the lid off
> >> the stock like a powder-keg
> >>
> >>   PDSC is poised to be the standard for the multi-billion dollar food
> >>   safety industry. Its food sanitation process improves organic and
> >>   non-organic foods. Billions of American, and International,
> >>   consumers will receive quality, non-toxic, fresh fruits, vegetables
> >>   and meats.
> >>
> >>   An estimated 76 million Americans suffer from food-borne illnesses
> >>   every year, an issue which concerns food producers, processors and
> >>   retailers.
> >>
> >> [the rest deleted...]
> >>
> >> --- End of forwarded message ---
> >>
> >> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> >> [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> >> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
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Re: CS>Over dose/gray face

2006-02-27 Thread G & K Murray
Health food store or any drugstore vitamin and mineral section.  It is 
an essential mineral.


Medwith, Robert wrote:


Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
 
   Bob




CS>Re: Townsend Files.

2006-02-27 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Trem - I would appreciate this very much - thanks
Regards
Sandee

OCR to convert them to regular text and post to the list so everyone can
read it.  

Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had 10,000
spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but delete
spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I need a
good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at 90%
effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend.  It seems
that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have to
switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am trading spam
for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam.

Any suggestions?

Marshall

"M. G. Devour" wrote:

> Hi everybody! Your list owner is ON THE JOB!!!
>
> Okay, when one of these investment posts came through from somebody
> calling themselves b...@verizon.net, I figured that a member thought it
> was interesting and sent it along. It would have been nice if they had
> said something so we knew why they wanted to post it, but, in fact, it
> was talking about using ozone for food sanitation... a relatively
> obvious alternative health reference.
>
> Then a *second* copy comes under a different Subject line, from the
> same address. Now this starts looking like SPAM.
>
> So I went and checked the subscriber file and we don't even *have* a
> b...@verizon.net ... and when you think about it the odds of anyone
> even having an address like b...@... from any large domain is pretty
> much nil. I'm sure b...@verizon.net was taken the first day verizon was
> handing out userid's, probably to an employee, and that person is
> unlikely to be a member here. It's most likely a forgery.
>
> Digging a bit deeper, it turns out these *were* spam, and they got
> posted because we have an extremely similar user name already
> subscribed, and I had the threshold for accepting submissions set to
> "tight" but not "exact," and that was good enough to let it through.
>
> I've changed it now so the list server requires an *exact* match to the
> subscriber list entry. I hope this won't cause anyone a problem
> posting. If that happens, let me know. My personal e-mail address is in
> the footer at the bottom of every list message.
>
> Thought you'd all like to know... 
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
> list security guard... 
>
> --- Forwarded message follows ---
> Date forwarded: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:47:20 -0800
> From:   "Bill" 
> To: 
> Date sent:  Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:47:19 -0500
> Forwarded by:   silver-list@eskimo.com
> Send reply to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:CS>Investors profit on last minute trading
>
> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]
>
> Ticker Symbol: PDSC.PK  Buy  Aggressively
>
> Last Trade: 0.082
> AVG Vol: 1,107,198
> Short Term Target: +0.67
> Long Term Target: +2.00
>
> We believe serious news is on the horizon that can blow the lid off the
> stock like a powder-keg
>
>   PDSC is poised to be the standard for the multi-billion dollar food
>   safety industry. Its food sanitation process improves organic and
>   non-organic foods. Billions of American, and International, consumers
>   will receive quality, non-toxic, fresh fruits, vegetables and meats.
>
>   An estimated 76 million Americans suffer from food-borne illnesses
>   every year, an issue which concerns food producers, processors and
>   retailers.
>
> [the rest deleted...]
>
> --- End of forwarded message ---
>
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
>
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Re: CS>CS comparisons [calling all Lymies]

2006-02-27 Thread Dan Nave
Doing a 'salt test' on a CS sample should result in some cloudiness or
bluish coloration (silver chloride) if there is any ionic silver
component to it.  It may be quite subtle.  Check tyndall before adding
salt for colloidal particles.  If there is no color change with salt,
perhaps try a new sample and add some hydrogen peroxide and check for
tyndall/cloudiness changes and do the salt test again.  This won't
quantify what you have but it may be able to indicate if there is any
silver in it.  Also, get a super taster to swish it around in the mouth
for a while.  They should be able to discern the metallic taste.

Don't know what the above would show with silver protein or citrate,
etc.

Dan



>>> "Heidi & Lee Sulkosky"  2/25/2006 9:32:22 PM
>>>

Okay, I've purchased CS from Bio Alternatives which is not in the
comparison
list. I did the salt test with no cloudiness. It is crystal clear.
After
reading that article I am confused. Should it be clear or not! I have
read
things in the past about some saying it should be yellow. Anybody know
anything about Bio Alternatives? They are very reasonable in price and
I
actually spoke with someone there who assured me no salts or proteins
were
used.  I'd like to hear from some more lymies my self. Every bit
of
hope helps. 11  years of antibiotics  has taken its toll.  But the
alternative to what my life is like without them is no contest.
Heidi


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Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread Arnold Beland

Cloudmark is work very well for me, well worth the $3.99 per month.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?



Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had 10,000
spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but delete
spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I need 
a

good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at 90%
effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend.  It seems
that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have to
switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am trading 
spam

for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam.

Any suggestions?

Marshall

"M. G. Devour" wrote:


Hi everybody! Your list owner is ON THE JOB!!!

Okay, when one of these investment posts came through from somebody
calling themselves b...@verizon.net, I figured that a member thought it
was interesting and sent it along. It would have been nice if they had
said something so we knew why they wanted to post it, but, in fact, it
was talking about using ozone for food sanitation... a relatively
obvious alternative health reference.

Then a *second* copy comes under a different Subject line, from the
same address. Now this starts looking like SPAM.

So I went and checked the subscriber file and we don't even *have* a
b...@verizon.net ... and when you think about it the odds of anyone
even having an address like b...@... from any large domain is pretty
much nil. I'm sure b...@verizon.net was taken the first day verizon was
handing out userid's, probably to an employee, and that person is
unlikely to be a member here. It's most likely a forgery.

Digging a bit deeper, it turns out these *were* spam, and they got
posted because we have an extremely similar user name already
subscribed, and I had the threshold for accepting submissions set to
"tight" but not "exact," and that was good enough to let it through.

I've changed it now so the list server requires an *exact* match to the
subscriber list entry. I hope this won't cause anyone a problem
posting. If that happens, let me know. My personal e-mail address is in
the footer at the bottom of every list message.

Thought you'd all like to know... 

Be well,

Mike D.
list security guard... 

--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date forwarded: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:47:20 -0800
From:   "Bill" 
To: 
Date sent:  Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:47:19 -0500
Forwarded by:   silver-list@eskimo.com
Send reply to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CS>Investors profit on last minute trading

[ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]

Ticker Symbol: PDSC.PK  Buy  Aggressively

Last Trade: 0.082
AVG Vol: 1,107,198
Short Term Target: +0.67
Long Term Target: +2.00

We believe serious news is on the horizon that can blow the lid off the
stock like a powder-keg

  PDSC is poised to be the standard for the multi-billion dollar food
  safety industry. Its food sanitation process improves organic and
  non-organic foods. Billions of American, and International, consumers
  will receive quality, non-toxic, fresh fruits, vegetables and meats.

  An estimated 76 million Americans suffer from food-borne illnesses
  every year, an issue which concerns food producers, processors and
  retailers.

[the rest deleted...]

--- End of forwarded message ---

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]

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Re: CS>Re: Townsend Files.

2006-02-27 Thread Trem
If  Bob gets it to me I'll OCR it and post to the list.


Trem 

- Original Message - 
  From: Sandee George 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:59 AM
  Subject: CS>Re: Townsend Files.


  Hi There Trem - I would appreciate this very much - thanks
  Regards
  Sandee

  OCR to convert them to regular text and post to the list so everyone can read 
it.  


Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread William Missett

Marshall:

I don't know what makes you such an attractive spam target, but my Norton 
Anti-Spam allows NONE through on my computer.



- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?



Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had 10,000
spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but delete
spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I need 
a

good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at 90%
effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend.  It seems
that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have to
switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am trading 
spam

for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam.

Any suggestions?

Marshall

"M. G. Devour" wrote:


Hi everybody! Your list owner is ON THE JOB!!!

Okay, when one of these investment posts came through from somebody
calling themselves b...@verizon.net, I figured that a member thought it
was interesting and sent it along. It would have been nice if they had
said something so we knew why they wanted to post it, but, in fact, it
was talking about using ozone for food sanitation... a relatively
obvious alternative health reference.

Then a *second* copy comes under a different Subject line, from the
same address. Now this starts looking like SPAM.

So I went and checked the subscriber file and we don't even *have* a
b...@verizon.net ... and when you think about it the odds of anyone
even having an address like b...@... from any large domain is pretty
much nil. I'm sure b...@verizon.net was taken the first day verizon was
handing out userid's, probably to an employee, and that person is
unlikely to be a member here. It's most likely a forgery.

Digging a bit deeper, it turns out these *were* spam, and they got
posted because we have an extremely similar user name already
subscribed, and I had the threshold for accepting submissions set to
"tight" but not "exact," and that was good enough to let it through.

I've changed it now so the list server requires an *exact* match to the
subscriber list entry. I hope this won't cause anyone a problem
posting. If that happens, let me know. My personal e-mail address is in
the footer at the bottom of every list message.

Thought you'd all like to know... 

Be well,

Mike D.
list security guard... 

--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date forwarded: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:47:20 -0800
From:   "Bill" 
To: 
Date sent:  Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:47:19 -0500
Forwarded by:   silver-list@eskimo.com
Send reply to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CS>Investors profit on last minute trading

[ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]

Ticker Symbol: PDSC.PK  Buy  Aggressively

Last Trade: 0.082
AVG Vol: 1,107,198
Short Term Target: +0.67
Long Term Target: +2.00

We believe serious news is on the horizon that can blow the lid off the
stock like a powder-keg

  PDSC is poised to be the standard for the multi-billion dollar food
  safety industry. Its food sanitation process improves organic and
  non-organic foods. Billions of American, and International, consumers
  will receive quality, non-toxic, fresh fruits, vegetables and meats.

  An estimated 76 million Americans suffer from food-borne illnesses
  every year, an issue which concerns food producers, processors and
  retailers.

[the rest deleted...]

--- End of forwarded message ---

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]

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CS>

2006-02-27 Thread bob smith
Several days ago I asked about using EIS for Staph.  Could someone give me 
an answer?   Bob Smith 



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Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread cking001
Marshall, 
Mailwasher Pro has a filtering system that is the most extensive that
I've seen.
Ithas a learning curve, if you want to optimize the filtering, but it
has automatic choices too!
I pretty much depend on it now.
Oh, it goes to whatever Email client you have set up for your default
on your system.

Chuck
"You gotta draw the line somewhere.  -- Mason to Dixon"


On 2/27/2006 10:24:00 AM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com)
wrote:
> Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had 10,000
> spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but delete
> spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I need
> a
> good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at 90%
> effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend.  It seems
> that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have to
> switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am trading
> spam
> for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Marshall



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Re: CS>Over dose/gray face

2006-02-27 Thread cking001
Selenium is a metal we need in micro-doses.
Poisonous in overdoses.
Safe range around 200-400 micrograms daily.
Health food stores are your source.
Big Deal Cancer Fighter.

Chuck
The key to life is sincerity.  Once you can fake that, you've got it
made.

On 2/27/2006 6:52:55 AM, Medwith, Robert
(robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil) wrote:
> Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
> I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
> Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
> 
> Bob


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Re: CS>new to the group

2006-02-27 Thread M. G. Devour
Welcome aboard, Kandee!

If you build or buy a generator and make your own CS, you'll be able to 
control what's in it, as well as make as much as you need for pennies. 
Those are some good options to have. So you're on a good path. Ask 
questions here to help you learn how to make and use good quality CS 
safely.

Bronchitis and strep infections that finally landed me with pneumonia 
are what caused me to go looking for alternatives and to find CS.

As far as the HTML formatting is concerned, it's easy to turn off, and 
is a courtesy to the rest of the members, some of whose mail programs 
do not handle fancy formatting all that well, and those on dial-up who 
have to pay to download what amounts to cosmetic junk.

In Yahoo mail, if you click on the Options link over on the right hand 
side, then General Preferences, then select "Compose messages as plain 
text" under Composing E-mails Mode, that'll be it! 
  
Good to have you in the group. I'm sure you'll get some answers.

Be well!

Mike D.


> Hi,
> 
>   I'm Kandee and new to the list;  I just finished reading Warren
>   Jefferson's book about colloidal silver and he gave me the silver-list
>   website because I had some questions.  I'm planning to make my own CS
>   generator soon and would love to talk with others who use CS and hear
>   other testimonials.  My main reason for seeking out CS is the fact
>   that I am leary about my daughter having to be on antibiotics every 2
>   months.  She's prone to bronchitis, and it's cycle seems to hit every
>   2 months.  Based on what I've read, CS would be a good alternative.
> 
>   I hope I'm typing this in a non-HTML form...I'm not sure how to turn
>   it off, if I inadvertantly did use HTML.  Please let me know if I need
>   to correct my email system.  Thanks,
> 
>   Kandee
> 
> 
> Kandee, mom to Hannah and Grace
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread Jim Holmes
I have always ignored them. 

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

One thing to avoid like the plague are the "services" that capture all 
your e-mail and send a "validation" message back to the sender that 
requires them to respond, proving that there's a real person on the 
other end of the e-mail address, before letting a message through to 
the user.

I generally won't respond to those, personally, and they're a nightmare 
for mailing lists. Every person who posts to the list ends up getting a 
validation message from each list member using such a service. The 
first one of those I see in my mailbox, that member is suspended until 
they've proven to me that they've whitelisted the list properly.

Haven't seen one in a while. Maybe they're getting less popular.

Be well,

Mike D.

> Cloudmark is work very well for me, well worth the $3.99 per month. Best
> Regards, Arnold Beland - Original Message - From: "Marshall
> Dudley"  To:  Sent:
> Monday, February 27, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner]
> Investment spam posts?
> 
> 
> > Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had
> > 10,000 spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today
> > but delete spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my
> > mail, and I need a good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on
> > it, but even at 90% effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it
> > over a weekend.  It seems that every time I look for a good spam
> > program they tell me I have to switch to outlook for my mail client,
> > but there is no way I am trading spam for viruses and worms, I would
> > rather deal with the spam.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > "M. G. Devour" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everybody! Your list owner is ON THE JOB!!!
> >>
> >> Okay, when one of these investment posts came through from somebody
> >> calling themselves b...@verizon.net, I figured that a member thought
> >> it was interesting and sent it along. It would have been nice if they
> >> had said something so we knew why they wanted to post it, but, in
> >> fact, it was talking about using ozone for food sanitation... a
> >> relatively obvious alternative health reference.
> >>
> >> Then a *second* copy comes under a different Subject line, from the
> >> same address. Now this starts looking like SPAM.
> >>
> >> So I went and checked the subscriber file and we don't even *have* a
> >> b...@verizon.net ... and when you think about it the odds of anyone
> >> even having an address like b...@... from any large domain is pretty
> >> much nil. I'm sure b...@verizon.net was taken the first day verizon
> >> was handing out userid's, probably to an employee, and that person is
> >> unlikely to be a member here. It's most likely a forgery.
> >>
> >> Digging a bit deeper, it turns out these *were* spam, and they got
> >> posted because we have an extremely similar user name already
> >> subscribed, and I had the threshold for accepting submissions set to
> >> "tight" but not "exact," and that was good enough to let it through.
> >>
> >> I've changed it now so the list server requires an *exact* match to
> >> the subscriber list entry. I hope this won't cause anyone a problem
> >> posting. If that happens, let me know. My personal e-mail address is
> >> in the footer at the bottom of every list message.
> >>
> >> Thought you'd all like to know... 
> >>
> >> Be well,
> >>
> >> Mike D.
> >> list security guard... 
> >>
> >> --- Forwarded message follows ---
> >> Date forwarded: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:47:20 -0800
> >> From:   "Bill" 
> >> To: 
> >> Date sent:  Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:47:19 -0500
> >> Forwarded by:   silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Send reply to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Subject:CS>Investors profit on last minute trading
> >>
> >> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]
> >>
> >> Ticker Symbol: PDSC.PK  Buy  Aggressively
> >>
> >> Last Trade: 0.082
> >> AVG Vol: 1,107,198
> >> Short Term Target: +0.67
> >> Long Term Target: +2.00
> >>
> >> We believe serious news is on the horizon that can blow the lid off
> >> the stock like a powder-keg
> >>
> >>   PDSC is poised to be the standard for the multi-billion dollar food
> >>   safety industry. Its food sanitation process improves organic and
> >>   non-organic foods. Billions of American, and International,
> >>   consumers will receive quality, non-toxic, fresh fruits, vegetables
> >>   and meats.
> >>
> >>   An estimated 76 million Americans suffer from food-borne illnesses
> >>   every year, an issue which concerns food producers, processors and
> >>   retailers.
> >>
> >> [the rest deleted...]
> >>
> >> --- End of forwarded message ---
> >>
> >> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Lib

Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread Rich Adams

Marshall,

I paid $40 to Cloudmark and never been happier regarding the lack of SPAM. 
Excellent support staff and user driven forums.


cloudmark.com


Rich Adams




- Original Message - 

Any suggestions?

Marshall 



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CS>Spam

2006-02-27 Thread Terry Chamberlin
All my email addresses are with yahoo. They
automatically put all the spam in a bulk folder, which
I can look at if I want to, but mostly I just delete
periodically with one click. I don't even need to do
that, actually, yahoo does it for me eventually.

Very few spam emails make it into my personal box.

Terry






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RE: CS>

2006-02-27 Thread Jim Holmes
So far, properly conducted lab tests have found no bacteria immune to CS in
very small amounts. 

-Original Message-
From: bob smith [mailto:rresm...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>

Several days ago I asked about using EIS for Staph.  Could someone give me 
an answer?   Bob Smith 


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Re: CS>

2006-02-27 Thread Acmeair
a friend, worked out at his gym, with a 22 yr old young man, who had an 
unhealing open sore on each shin. ama docs couldn't get it to heal. the 
young man was taken to the UCLA medical center, where even amputation 
was discussed. they used the term "sepsis" which i believe is another 
term for staph. i gave the kid a jug of EIS,  he used it, in conjunction 
with the non-effective meds the AMA docs were subscribing.  at that 
point, the two open sores started healing. i met and talked to him 
personally friday, and he was ecstatic.


also, my sis-in-law used eis on her dogs open wound left over from a 
mauling, and it healed it up 3-4 days.  there are more examples.


jim

bob smith wrote:

Several days ago I asked about using EIS for Staph.  Could someone 
give me an answer?   Bob Smith


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CS>new to the group

2006-02-27 Thread Kandee Edge
Hi,
   
  I'm Kandee and new to the list;  I just finished reading Warren Jefferson's 
book about colloidal silver and he gave me the silver-list website because I 
had some questions.  I'm planning to make my own CS generator soon and would 
love to talk with others who use CS and hear other testimonials.  My main 
reason for seeking out CS is the fact that I am leary about my daughter having 
to be on antibiotics every 2 months.  She's prone to bronchitis, and it's cycle 
seems to hit every 2 months.  Based on what I've read, CS would be a good 
alternative.
   
  I hope I'm typing this in a non-HTML form...I'm not sure how to turn it off, 
if I inadvertantly did use HTML.  Please let me know if I need to correct my 
email system.  Thanks,
   
  Kandee


Kandee, mom to Hannah and Grace
  
   




CS>SPAM filter.

2006-02-27 Thread alchemySA
Can't your Internet Service Provider filter the spam before it gets to 
you?  Ours does, for 'free'.  We choose the level of filtering we want  
and they do the rest. Thats the only filtering we have and we only get 4 
or 5 spams a day now.


David




Subject:
Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?
From:
Marshall Dudley 
Date:
Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:24:00 -0500
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

To:
silver-list@eskimo.com


Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had 10,000
spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but delete
spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I need a
good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at 90%
effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend.  It seems
that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have to
switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am trading spam
for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam.

Any suggestions?

Marshall





Re: CS>SPAM filter.

2006-02-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
They do, but only get 90% of it, which still left me with over 1,000
this morning.

Marshall

alchemySA wrote:

> Can't your Internet Service Provider filter the spam before it gets to
> you?  Ours does, for 'free'.  We choose the level of filtering we
> want  and they do the rest. Thats the only filtering we have and we
> only get 4 or 5 spams a day now.
>
> David
>
>
>
>>
>>
   Subject:
   Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?
   From:
   Marshall Dudley 
   Date:
   Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:24:00 -0500
   To:
   silver-list@eskimo.com
>>
   To:
   silver-list@eskimo.com
>>
>> Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had
>> 10,000
>> spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but
>> delete
>> spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I
>> need a
>> good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at
>> 90%
>> effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend.  It
>> seems
>> that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have
>> to
>> switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am
>> trading spam
>> for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Marshall
>>


CS>current regulating diode?

2006-02-27 Thread Max Sanders
I have been using with success a funky Silver generator that does not have 
current regulation.  I have come to use a magnetic stirrer for a long time now 
and that was a huge breakthru, then I added a voltage limiting X10 unit that I 
have to push a button to adjust.  It works OK, but I have never added the 
current limiting diode that would keep the limit on my system.

I may even have received this info before and I know it's been discussed 
muchobut, what is the elec gizmo I need, where do I get it, and how is it 
installed?

Gracios,

Maz


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 Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

CS>Alpha Stim

2006-02-27 Thread Max Sanders
Input, informed response sought, but not totoally on-topic.  Does anyone within 
earshot know about and/or have experience with the Alpha-Stim Microcurrent 
Stimulator?

Also, there was a discussion prior about using current to "drive" silver ions 
into a subdermal location to be rid of pesky virus.  Could a device like the 
Alpha-Stim be used for this purpose?

The system is 9V battery driven and has an adjustable  current range 10 to 
600uA.
Frequency is  0.5, 1.5, or 100Hz.  The electrodes are either hand held metal 
tiped probes, or self-adhesive (4 or2) for pain.  Also has earclip electrodes 
for anxiety, depression, and/or insomnia.

In all applications (except adhesive electrodes) a felt electrode is placed on 
the metal then wetted with a conductive saline solution.  They sell thier own 
saline solution, of course.  If the felt electrodes were wetted with a silver 
solution would that serve to provide silver ions to the local area?  Are other 
ions being zapped into the local area?


I have tried this device before and it helps mucho grande for pain.

Gracios

Maz


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Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail  makes sharing a breeze. 

Re: CS>Alpha Stim

2006-02-27 Thread scl...@netzero.com
I believe you could use the Alpha stim for this purpose though I'm not sure if 
steady/slower DC current like the Beck frequency at 4hz might be better in some 
instances. If you are using the unit anywhere near the brain or eyes I would 
stick with the Alphastim as it was designed with this in mind (depression and 
other issues).

-- Max Sanders  wrote:
Input, informed response sought, but not totoally on-topic.  Does anyone within 
earshot know about and/or have experience with the Alpha-Stim Microcurrent 
Stimulator?

Also, there was a discussion prior about using current to "drive" silver ions 
into a subdermal location to be rid of pesky virus.  Could a device like the 
Alpha-Stim be used for this purpose?

The system is 9V battery driven and has an adjustable  current range 10 to 
600uA.
Frequency is  0.5, 1.5, or 100Hz.  The electrodes are either hand held metal 
tiped probes, or self-adhesive (4 or2) for pain.  Also has earclip electrodes 
for anxiety, depression, and/or insomnia.

In all applications (except adhesive electrodes) a felt electrode is placed on 
the metal then wetted with a conductive saline solution.  They sell thier own 
saline solution, of course.  If the felt electrodes were wetted with a silver 
solution would that serve to provide silver ions to ! the local area?  Are 
other ions being zapped into the local area?


I have tried this device before and it helps mucho grande for pain.

Gracios

Maz
Yahoo! Mail
Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. 

CS>Testimony

2006-02-27 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Here is a recent email I received from a client:

"You'll be thrilled with this news. Recently I
developed an eye infection. It was so bad that on
Tuesday I went to the drugstore and spoke with the
pharmacist. He advised I take drops containing
polisporin with antibiotics. I did exactly what it
said, two drops, four times a day. Well, on Thursday
it was so bad, when I put the drops in, my eyes stung
like mad and it felt like needles were sticking into
them everywhere.  

"I returned to the drugstore in the morning of that
day and the pharmacist prescribed drops to put before
I put the other drops to sort of numb my eyes. I did
that, it was a bit better. On Friday, I couldn't come
to work because I could hardly open my eyes, and also
because of the weather, so I continued with the drops.
At 11:00 a.m., I just couldn't take it anymore
and wondered what I could use to ease the discomfort.
Alléluia! SILVER! I rinsed my eyes with Silver and
within 20 minutes no more itchy, sore, red eyes. 
Unbelievable.  All weekend I put Silver drops and my
eyes are o.k.

"Can you believe this? Thank God for Silver, and thank
you for recommending it."

Terry Chamberlin







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Re: CS>SPAM filter.

2006-02-27 Thread Gaston
Hi Marshall,

The only way that I got completely rid of spams on my PC was to get my service 
provider to change the e-mail address (my wife's e-mail address). We are using 
the same PC.  I was receiving spams only on her e-mail address. Mine has always 
been clear so far.
Even though, my service provider told me first that it would not solve the 
problem it did.  Most service provider
are reluctant to change e-mail address. I presume because of the work involved.
Anyway, I did try some important spam filtering software before ( Norton, 
Qurb). It helped, but does not get rid of spams as
such. They send spam messages in a seperate folder and then you have to manage 
them ( review them if any
important messages or delete them all, etc.).
Have not received a spam message since my new address.
Gaston
===
They do, but only get 90% of it, which still left me with over 1,000 this 
morning. 
Marshall 

=




Re: CS>Testimony

2006-02-27 Thread scl...@netzero.com
And along those lines I am also happy to report my wife's scratched cornea has 
almost completely healed (the steroids and antibiotics didn't do much good). 
When she started using CS and MSM together the healing sped up tremendously and 
the results came much faster . We also used V's red LED light to stimulate the 
healing process.
Steve Levine

-- Terry Chamberlin  wrote:
Here is a recent email I received from a client:

"You'll be thrilled with this news. Recently I
developed an eye infection. It was so bad that on
Tuesday I went to the drugstore and spoke with the
pharmacist. He advised I take drops containing
polisporin with antibiotics. I did exactly what it
said, two drops, four times a day. Well, on Thursday
it was so bad, when I put the drops in, my eyes stung
like mad and it felt like needles were sticking into
them everywhere.  

"I returned to the drugstore in the morning of that
day and the pharmacist prescribed drops to put before
I put the other drops to sort of numb my eyes. I did
that, it was a bit better. On Friday, I couldn't come
to work because I could hardly open my eyes, and also
because of the weather, so I continued with the drops.
At 11:00 a.m., I just couldn't take it anymore
and wondered what I could use to ease the discomfort.
Alléluia! SILVER! I rinsed my eyes with Silver and
within 20 minutes no more itchy, sore, red eyes. 
Unbelievable.  All weekend I put Silver drops and my
eyes are o.k.

"Can you believe this? Thank God for Silver, and thank
you for recommending it."

Terry Chamberlin







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Re: CS>

2006-02-27 Thread Dan Nave
I don't know what you asked, but I have had CS used to cure MRSA which 
is antibiotic resistance staph.  Why are you asking?


Dan



bob smith wrote:
Several days ago I asked about using EIS for Staph.  Could someone give 
me an answer?   Bob Smith





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Re: CS>

2006-02-27 Thread bob smith

Dan,
 Someone on another list had mentioned they knew someone that that was 
having trouble getting rid of it with antibiotics.  I was sure that EIS 
would work but wanted to be sure before I recommended it.   Bob Smith







- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>


I don't know what you asked, but I have had CS used to cure MRSA which is 
antibiotic resistance staph.  Why are you asking?


Dan



bob smith wrote:
Several days ago I asked about using EIS for Staph.  Could someone give 
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CS>CS for baldness, skin peels, raccoon attack

2006-02-27 Thread Tad Winiecki
>From: V
>Subject: Re: CS>CS over dose / Gray Face
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:56:40 -0800

>Yeah Bob Beck used CS on his head along with a magnetic pulser  to regrow
>his hair. One theory is that the reason we loss hail is due to micro
>orgcanisms in the hair folicles and if you kill them the hair will grlow
>again. its just getting the CS in the follicles that's the problem as they
>are usually clogged with sebum that is like a fat and does not allow stuff
>to get down in the follicle. so you have to find a way to remove that
>first and then get the CS down in the follicles. There is one guy that I
>herad of that used some kind of chemical peel to clear all that out and
>then you can get at the bugs to kill them.


V- You mention chemical peels.  I've been reading about them on the
internet and the TCA peel claims to remove the damage from pre-cancerous
growths, sun spots, minor wrinkles, and acne scars and then regrow newly
structured firmer skin that is unclogged, and smoother.  I'm wondering if
anyone on this list has had personal experience with this kind of peel.  I
want to know how long the skin remains sensitive to sun exposure and if it
lives up to the hype.  Would CS make a good post-peel healing agent?  I
would suppose it would, the only problem I have with CS being it's ability
to also kill off beneficial bacteria.

BTW, one of my ducks was attacked by a raccoon and had a 1 x 1.5" chunk
bitten off the back of her neck just below the skull, exposing part of the
bone of her vertebra, and another 2 x 3" chunk taken out of her side under
her wing.  I really didn't think she would survive but put some CS and
salve on the wounds and a bandage on her neck.  The patch under her wing
regrew skin and down after 4-5 weeks and the patch on her neck is partly
regrown with skin, part still with a scab after 8 weeks, and the tissues
regrew to cover the bones under the old scab.  Amazing.   I wish people
could do that as well.

Nancy




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Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread
Marshall,

I found the best cure is to change your email address and only give it out
to selected people.  Better is to have 2 email addresses - one for your
regular close network of friends and coworkers, the other one to use where
there is a risk of it getting sold to spammers.  Changing the latter when
you start getting spam again is no big deal & doesn't require notifying many
people.
--Steve Y.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?


> Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had 10,000
> spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but delete
> spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I need
a
> good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at 90%
> effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend.  It seems
> that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have to
> switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am trading
spam
> for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Marshall
>
> "M. G. Devour" wrote:
>
> > Hi everybody! Your list owner is ON THE JOB!!!
> >
> > Okay, when one of these investment posts came through from somebody
> > calling themselves b...@verizon.net, I figured that a member thought it
> > was interesting and sent it along. It would have been nice if they had
> > said something so we knew why they wanted to post it, but, in fact, it
> > was talking about using ozone for food sanitation... a relatively
> > obvious alternative health reference.
> >
> > Then a *second* copy comes under a different Subject line, from the
> > same address. Now this starts looking like SPAM.
> >
> > So I went and checked the subscriber file and we don't even *have* a
> > b...@verizon.net ... and when you think about it the odds of anyone
> > even having an address like b...@... from any large domain is pretty
> > much nil. I'm sure b...@verizon.net was taken the first day verizon was
> > handing out userid's, probably to an employee, and that person is
> > unlikely to be a member here. It's most likely a forgery.
> >
> > Digging a bit deeper, it turns out these *were* spam, and they got
> > posted because we have an extremely similar user name already
> > subscribed, and I had the threshold for accepting submissions set to
> > "tight" but not "exact," and that was good enough to let it through.
> >
> > I've changed it now so the list server requires an *exact* match to the
> > subscriber list entry. I hope this won't cause anyone a problem
> > posting. If that happens, let me know. My personal e-mail address is in
> > the footer at the bottom of every list message.
> >
> > Thought you'd all like to know... 
> >
> > Be well,
> >
> > Mike D.
> > list security guard... 
> >
> > --- Forwarded message follows ---
> > Date forwarded: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:47:20 -0800
> > From:   "Bill" 
> > To: 
> > Date sent:  Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:47:19 -0500
> > Forwarded by:   silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Send reply to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject:CS>Investors profit on last minute trading
> >
> > [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]
> >
> > Ticker Symbol: PDSC.PK  Buy  Aggressively
> >
> > Last Trade: 0.082
> > AVG Vol: 1,107,198
> > Short Term Target: +0.67
> > Long Term Target: +2.00
> >
> > We believe serious news is on the horizon that can blow the lid off the
> > stock like a powder-keg
> >
> >   PDSC is poised to be the standard for the multi-billion dollar food
> >   safety industry. Its food sanitation process improves organic and
> >   non-organic foods. Billions of American, and International, consumers
> >   will receive quality, non-toxic, fresh fruits, vegetables and meats.
> >
> >   An estimated 76 million Americans suffer from food-borne illnesses
> >   every year, an issue which concerns food producers, processors and
> >   retailers.
> >
> > [the rest deleted...]
> >
> > --- End of forwarded message ---
> >
> > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> > [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> > [Speaking only for myself...   ]
> >
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Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?

2006-02-27 Thread Jeanne

I HAVE ACTIVE PRIVACY FROM SYMANTEC AND IT SEEMS TO WORK REALLY WELL, JEN
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Investment spam posts?



Speaking of spam, I have got to do something.  This morning I had 10,000
spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but delete
spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I need 
a

good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at 90%
effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend.  It seems
that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have to
switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am trading 
spam

for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam.

Any suggestions?

Marshall

"M. G. Devour" wrote:


Hi everybody! Your list owner is ON THE JOB!!!

Okay, when one of these investment posts came through from somebody
calling themselves b...@verizon.net, I figured that a member thought it
was interesting and sent it along. It would have been nice if they had
said something so we knew why they wanted to post it, but, in fact, it
was talking about using ozone for food sanitation... a relatively
obvious alternative health reference.

Then a *second* copy comes under a different Subject line, from the
same address. Now this starts looking like SPAM.

So I went and checked the subscriber file and we don't even *have* a
b...@verizon.net ... and when you think about it the odds of anyone
even having an address like b...@... from any large domain is pretty
much nil. I'm sure b...@verizon.net was taken the first day verizon was
handing out userid's, probably to an employee, and that person is
unlikely to be a member here. It's most likely a forgery.

Digging a bit deeper, it turns out these *were* spam, and they got
posted because we have an extremely similar user name already
subscribed, and I had the threshold for accepting submissions set to
"tight" but not "exact," and that was good enough to let it through.

I've changed it now so the list server requires an *exact* match to the
subscriber list entry. I hope this won't cause anyone a problem
posting. If that happens, let me know. My personal e-mail address is in
the footer at the bottom of every list message.

Thought you'd all like to know... 

Be well,

Mike D.
list security guard... 

--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date forwarded: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:47:20 -0800
From:   "Bill" 
To: 
Date sent:  Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:47:19 -0500
Forwarded by:   silver-list@eskimo.com
Send reply to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CS>Investors profit on last minute trading

[ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]

Ticker Symbol: PDSC.PK  Buy  Aggressively

Last Trade: 0.082
AVG Vol: 1,107,198
Short Term Target: +0.67
Long Term Target: +2.00

We believe serious news is on the horizon that can blow the lid off the
stock like a powder-keg

  PDSC is poised to be the standard for the multi-billion dollar food
  safety industry. Its food sanitation process improves organic and
  non-organic foods. Billions of American, and International, consumers
  will receive quality, non-toxic, fresh fruits, vegetables and meats.

  An estimated 76 million Americans suffer from food-borne illnesses
  every year, an issue which concerns food producers, processors and
  retailers.

[the rest deleted...]

--- End of forwarded message ---

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]

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