Re: CSYour cash, pawl post

2006-09-20 Thread Jackie
 This is one of a couple of spam I have received on the list today.
 
Jackie
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Wilmer Cisneros
Date: 9/19/2006 10:54:40 PM
To: sine...@eskimo.com
Subject: CSYour cash, pawl post
 
Worried about the loss of erectoin? EVEN if you have no
erectoin problems SOFT CIAYLIS would help you to bring
back some romantic moments that u lost in past.
 
Just disolve half a pil under your tongue and get ready for action
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CSRe: better generator?

2006-09-20 Thread toreadpeoplehealthinfo

I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean with that statement?

Angel


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Subject: CSRe: FW: CSbetter generator?



Save your money Angle, if you can't get the SilverPuppy to work, you won't
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Re: CSblood pressure/low sodium to Ruth

2006-09-20 Thread Paula Perry
Ruth,
I have the same problem with low sodium. Table salt and sea salt is not
going to do you much good. You need organic salts that are contained in
vegetables. Doctors don't get it. You need actual foods that are rich in
sodium that your body can absorb. An easy way to correct your problem is to
eat a couple stalks of celery every day which is one of the highest foods in
natural, organic sodium. Having low sodium is very serious. When you are low
in sodium, you can become very allergic to just about everything. Not to
mention a lack of energy, depression etc. It can lead to very serious
illnesses. Your skin becomes dry and dehydrated, and you also become
constipated!  It can also lead to arthritic pains.  Look at your face in a
mirror. Check-out your lips. If the left corner is lower than the right, a
Sodium deficiency exists.
This is how you can check your improvement when you start working on
correcting your low sodium problem without running to the doctor who gave
you bad advice in the first place. The best way to get your sodium level up
quickly is to have a juicer and juice the celery or other foods high in
sodium.

Food Sources High in Sodium
Kelp, Irish Moss, olives, dulse, celery (kelp and dulse are very inexpensive
supplements)
Other sources you can juice-
carrots, okra, spinach, strawberries, apples, beets, asparagus, cucumbers,
plums, radishes and turnips.

Once you correct your sodium level you will find it
helping all of your other health issues. Hope you let us know how it goes.
Best of Luck,
Paula
- Original Message - 
From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: CSblood pressure


 Hi, I have consistently low sodium.  Was told to eat lots of salt.
 Chiropractor tells me to use sea salt.  Have been using  Iodized seasalt
 Haines.  Chiropractor is encouraging me to use  RealSalt diluting it in
warm
 water.  You add sea salt to a pint or so of water until salt no longer
 dissolves.  Take a tablespoon or so now and then of this diluted salt.
When
 I tried this, I found that the little brown grains in the realsalt do not
 dissolve while the white ones would continue to dissolve longer.  Have to
 ask him about this when I see him tomorrow.  Will post his answer.  I have
 questions about amounts of salt to use, also.  ruth

 From Ruth Strackbein


 From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSblood pressure
 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Linda, you might try adding potassium to your calcium and magnesium
 supplement. Exercising and lowering salt is also helpful. I think that
the
 life extension sells a product that is natural for lowering blood
pressure.
I also wonder about the colon issue. It seems that it would show up on
a
 colonoscopy doesnt it?
 
 
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Re: CSYour cash, pawl post

2006-09-20 Thread M. G. Devour
Yep, I'm investigating how that's happening. I hope y'all will ignore 
it. sigh

Mike D.

  This is one of a couple of spam I have received on the list today.
 
 Jackie
 
 ---Original Message---
 
 From: Wilmer Cisneros
 Date: 9/19/2006 10:54:40 PM
 To: sine...@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSYour cash, pawl post
 
 Worried about the loss of erectoin? EVEN if you have no
 erectoin problems SOFT CIAYLIS would help you to bring
 back some romantic moments that u lost in past.
 
 Just disolve half a pil under your tongue and get ready for action
 in 15 minutes. SOFT CIAKLIS! It makes your lovemaking incredible!
 
 VISIT US TODAY, AND GET OUR SPECIAL 70% DISC5OUNT OFER!
 
 http://doinig.hekreso.net/?62293344
 
 Instant shipping worldwide. Absolutely CONFIDENTIAL and SECURE purchase.
 
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CSmites and fleas on domestic animals

2006-09-20 Thread Leonardo van Goens
Wendy wrote:

Our female is scratching too but no visible signs of anything.
and

 But CS just popped into my head and I wondered if anyone had ever had any 
 success with this??

 

Sure thing:

Our cat was fighting his way into the new neighborhood we moved to, with other 
cats. He lost (being in-experienced) and he came home all scratched and bruised 
up. Moreover he was infected with scabies.

So we sprayed CS over the wounds and over the scabies-stains, and the result 
was instant. Cat does not like to be wet, but he allows the every-evening 
treatment. We see a clear (although a bit slow) healing process. 

We have not used any other medicine; we stick to CS, as we know the miracles 
happen. 

 

Our dog is a tick-theatre (or hotel if you wish) and we have to wash her 
weekly, in this very dry climate where we live. Carefully spraying CS into her 
ears does away with any infections after taking those parasites out, and seems 
to avoid new inhabitants.

 

So yes, CS does it!

 

Faith

 

Behold the turtle;

it make progress

ONLY

when it's neck is out.


CSAngels CS problems

2006-09-20 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Angel said,
They realized all they were doing was wearing down
their silver rods.

If you are *wearing down* your silver rods, it is
working. The rods don't *wear down*, they dissolve. If
they are dissolving quickly, your water is getting
plenty of silver.

I think the issue may be in what you think you are
getting. You said it was 3-4 ppm. How did you arrive
at this number? The only way I know of accurately
measuring ppm is with a spectrophotometer, which I
assume you don't possess. The readings you get with a
TDS or PWT meter are not ppm, and must be translated
into ppm using various formulas which are not
dependably or consistently accurate.

I had a sample of my CS tested by a local Industrial
testing laboratory some time back and was told it was
5 ppm. I KNEW that was wrong, so I had them test it
again. They said, Oh Yeah, sorry, it is actually 7
ppm. I sent some of that same batch to Old Bob, and he
pronounced it to be 18.7 ppm, very small particle
size. I asked him why the difference in testing
results, and he said the lab near me didn't know how
to test for the nanosilver portion (what he called
'ionic'). 

The basic problem with units that autoshutoff is if
they shut off too soon (whether because the
autoshutoff function is faulty, or it is set too low
or because of water quality). My units don't shut off
automatically because various water qualities would
affect that.

I just brew it as long as possible while still getting
clear CS. As soon as you get yellow CS, you know you
have brewed it too long and need to shorten the
brewing time a bit (not that there is anything wrong
with yellow CS). Units that autshutoff don't allow
this. As I understand it, the autoshutoff function
operates by shutting off at a maximum amperage. You
will reach that maximum amperage sooner with water
that has 'stuff' in it (minerals or chemicals, etc.)
than you will with very pure distilled water. This
means that if your water has minerals in it, the
minerals will conduct electricty before much silver
has been dissolved into the water and the unit will
shut off before there is much silver in the water. In
other words, the minerals in the water take the place
of silver to increase conductance and raise amperage. 

In Angel's case, the fact that his silver rods are
dissolving quickly indicates that he is getting plenty
of silver into the water, whatever his ppm
measurements may seem to indicate. 

Angel, if you are waiting to get a 10-20 ppm reading
with a TDS meter (although it isn't actually ppm) 
using a unit with autoshutoff, it isn't likely to
happen. This doesn't mean you aren't getting 10-20
ppm, but the autoshutoff mechanism will shut off the
brewing process sooner with, say, Reverse Osmosis
water than with good distilled water. (Most RO units
don't remove as much 'stuff' from the water as
distillation units.) There are also varying qualities
of DW, and DW that comes in soft opaque plastic
bottles may have more substances in it than DW that
comes in the blue, hard plastic, 5-gallon bottles.
Also, because of the presence of chemicals in today's
water that evaporate along with the water, a good DW
unit needs to have a carbon filter at the end of the
distillation cycle, and the filter needs to be kept
clean. DW devices that are not adequately serviced
(such as happens in a pharmacy or grocery store) can
produce less-than-pure water, which can afect
CS-brewing.

Your Silver Puppy is almost certainly producing
adequate CS if your rods are dissolving.

Terry Chamberlin

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RE: CSAngels CS problems

2006-09-20 Thread nathan cross

Hi Terry

i also thought it funny that Angel said that the rods were wearing down , if 
there wasn't actually alot of cs being produced, but i thought it might have 
been a mistake, as the silver cannot just disappear. I find it strange that 
there would be any noticable change in the rods over a short period of time 
as i can use mine for several months before i can see any significant change 
in rod thickness.
and surely if Angel was producing stronger cs but failing to get a correct 
reading as to the ppm, the silver would have discoloured the water to some 
extent.


you make mention of the inaccuracies involved with using TDS meters to 
measure ppm could you pass on some information to me about this as i use a 
TDS meter to test for ppm and would like to learn more, any links you have 
would be a help if you dont mind.


Thanks alot

Nathan



From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAngels CS problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:09:03 -0400 (EDT)

Angel said,
They realized all they were doing was wearing down
their silver rods.

If you are *wearing down* your silver rods, it is
working. The rods don't *wear down*, they dissolve. If
they are dissolving quickly, your water is getting
plenty of silver.

I think the issue may be in what you think you are
getting. You said it was 3-4 ppm. How did you arrive
at this number? The only way I know of accurately
measuring ppm is with a spectrophotometer, which I
assume you don't possess. The readings you get with a
TDS or PWT meter are not ppm, and must be translated
into ppm using various formulas which are not
dependably or consistently accurate.

I had a sample of my CS tested by a local Industrial
testing laboratory some time back and was told it was
5 ppm. I KNEW that was wrong, so I had them test it
again. They said, Oh Yeah, sorry, it is actually 7
ppm. I sent some of that same batch to Old Bob, and he
pronounced it to be 18.7 ppm, very small particle
size. I asked him why the difference in testing
results, and he said the lab near me didn't know how
to test for the nanosilver portion (what he called
'ionic').





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RE: CSRe: better generator?

2006-09-20 Thread Dan Nave
 Angel,

I don't think you really understand the issues involved in making
colloidal silver and you are making assumptions based on this
misunderstanding.  

Terry makes some good points, although I don't agree 100% with
everything he said.  If you are dissolving your silver electrodes,
then you are performing the electrolysis process that makes colloidal
silver.  And, since you seem to have visible reduction in the size of
your electrodes it seems that you are putting a lot of silver into the
water.  If this results in 3 to 4 ppm CS I would be very surprised.  

The SilverPuppy has an auto-shutoff feature which is calibrated to shut
off, not at a particular current, but at a certain voltage appearing
across the cell which has been selected based on the electrode size and
geometry and which correlates to the conductance of the cell.  What this
means is that as the electrolysis (making CS) process continues the
water has more silver ions in it and it conducts electricity more
easily.  Knowing the fixed conditions of the SilverPuppy electrode
configuration it can be set to shut down when there are a certain ppm of
ions in the cell (has a certain resistance, or inversely, conductance).
The shutdown is exact every time but because of the nature of CS making
and all the variables of water and contamination the ppm may not be
exact, but it should be close.  You should make a similar product every
time if you use good distilled water and do not contaminate the
electrodes or jar with anything, by handling or by cleaning processes;
dirt,  hand acids and oils, soaps, hydrogen peroxide, etc. 

If the SilverPuppy auto-shutoff is turning off too soon, you still have
the option of running it manually without the shutoff by switching the
toggle switch (away from the red dot, I think).  This way you can run
forever, but really, you will never get above a certain percentage of CS
ions in the water and you will end up wasting your silver electrodes.

Water quality is important!  You should be using water distilled by a
steam process.  And, not all distilled water is equal.  Use the best
water you can find, it will limit the quality of your CS, although
almost all CS is usable and better than nothing, but we shoot for the
best, right?

Do not add anything to the CS as a starter, like salt, baking soda,
honey, etc...  If you have good CS, you can add some of that as a
starter to speed up the process, but be careful of adding questionable
CS to the cell as a starter.

Your method of testing for the ppm of the CS may be incorrect.  Your
instrument may be inappropriate.  Your instrument may not  be calibrated
correctly or just plain not working correctly.  You may not understand
the issues surrounding testing, which are complex.  You may be adjusting
your reading by the wrong factor.

You are not working with Ken aka Ode Coyote who would go the extra mile
with you to solve your problem and help you understand how to make CS.
Instead you slander the SilverPuppy, which I don't think deserves this
treatment.  It is a sweat little device, a good value, convenient, it is
what it is...

Dan



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From: toreadpeoplehealthi...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: angelzi...@gmail.com
Subject: CSRe: better generator?

I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean with that statement?

Angel


- Original Message -
From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: CSRe: FW: CSbetter generator?


 Save your money Angle, if you can't get the SilverPuppy to work, you
won't
 have any better time with any other unit...

 Dan



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Re: CSH2O2 - 2

2006-09-20 Thread mborgert
THANKS DAN, DID NOT KNOW OF THE DIFFERENT GRADES.
 -- Original message --
From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 thanks Dan excellent infodeb
 
 Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote:  
 We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use 
 intravenous 
 infusion for 
 emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen 
 peroxide begins to 
 bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated 
 mucus. 
 (Dr. Farr refers 
 to this as the Alka-Seltzer effect.)
 
 The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated in 
 the 
 lungs. The amount of 
 bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be regulated by simply turning the H202 
 on 
 and off.
 
 As the peroxide clears the lung surface and destroys the bacterial 
 infections, 
 the patient regains 
 the ability to breath more normally. We continue to receive reports from 
 patients for whom the 
 technique has improved breathing so much that a wheelchair and supplemental 
 oxygen are no longer 
 needed.
 
 If you would like to find a doctor in your area trained in the use of 
 intravenous H202 infusion, 
 contact the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM), P.O. Box 
 13205, Oklahoma City, 
 OK 73113 at (405) 478-4266. They can provide names and addresses of doctors 
 using the procedure in 
 your area.
 
 If emphysema were the only ailment successfully treated with H202 therapy, it 
 would still rank as 
 one of the top health discoveries of all time. Fortunately, H202 works 
 wonders 
 on a multitude of 
 health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. A closer look 
 at 
 how we have 
 decreased the availability of external and internal oxygen, will show you 
 just 
 how important this 
 can be.
 
 If you were not too occupied with trying to hide dissection specimens in the 
 other student´s desks, 
 you might remember from elementary science courses that our atmosphere 
 contains 
 about 20% oxygen. 
 That is under ideal circumstances.
 
 It has recently been reported that in many of our more polluted cities, there 
 levels have dropped to 
 around 10%! (I have already mentioned how less hydrogen peroxide-containing 
 rain 
 is reaching the 
 earth´s surface.
 
 With increased pollution it is reacting with airborne toxins before it even 
 reaches the ground.) And 
 everyone, by now, knows the oxygen-generating rain forests are being 
 destroyed 
 worldwide, which 
 further reduces available oxygen. Internal oxygen availability is also under 
 attack.
 
 Chlorination of drinking water removes oxygen. Cooking and over-processing of 
 our foods lowers 
 their oxygen content. Unrestrained antibiotic use destroys beneficial oxygen-
   
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thanks Dan excellent infodebDan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote:  We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus. (Dr. Farr refers to this as the "Alka-Seltzer effect.")The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated in the lungs. The amount of bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be regulated by simply turning the H202 on and off.As the peroxide clears the lung surface and destroys the bacterial infections, the patient regains the ability to breath more normally. We continue to receive reports from patients for whom the
 technique has improved breathing so much that a wheelchair and supplemental oxygen are no longer needed.If you would like to find a doctor in your area trained in the use of intravenous H202 infusion, contact the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM), P.O. Box 13205, Oklahoma City, OK 73113 at (405) 478-4266. They can provide names and addresses of doctors using the procedure in your area.If emphysema were the only ailment successfully treated with H202 therapy, it would still rank as one of the top health discoveries of all time. Fortunately, H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. A closer look at how we have decreased the availability of external and internal oxygen, will show you just how important this can be.If you were not too occupied with trying to hide dissection specimens in the other student´s desks, you might remember
 from elementary science courses that our atmosphere contains about 20% oxygen. That is under ideal circumstances.It has recently been reported that in many of our more polluted cities, there levels have dropped to around 10%! (I have already mentioned how less hydrogen peroxide-containing rain is reaching the earth´s surface.With increased pollution it is 

Re: CSbetter generator?

2006-09-20 Thread Staya Udanvti Bob Butler

Osiyo Nigadv!
Hello Everyone!

I am retired and purchasing an automatic commercial generator is on my 
fuutre long-range plans.
I did a survey of the three top commercial units and chose the Silver Puppy 
just because of Ode's price's. It appears that all the units sold are very 
good and comparable.
But I could not wait and could not afford to buy CS so I made my own unit I 
have been using for over a year now.
I took a CD player transformer rated at: 5 VDC and 750 mA, cut of the jack, 
stripped the wires and attached two alligator clips.
I bought 12 inches of 14 ga .999 silver wire on-line, cut in half and added 
a 1/4 bend on one end for my electrodes.
I cut off the bottom of a powdered drink concentrate plastic container and 
drilled two 14 ga holes in it at the width of the quart (sm) mason jar I am 
using. The indentations on the plastic bottom just fit the mason jar lip 
opening so it would not slip around.
I put the electrodes thru the lid, connected the clips to the bent 
electrodes and plugged the transformer in.
I tried to measure the current with my Fluke meter and it was so low my 300 
mA scale would not show any reading.
Using Wal-Mart distilled water it took about 8 hours to develop a light 
golden color with fuzz on the electrodes. Hearing from others it appeared 
that I had just made some very good homemade CS at about 15 to 20 ppm. I 
store my CS in the maker jar with an airtight lid.
Once old age kicked in and I forgot to take the transformer off and it 
cooked for about 20 hours, the color was a darker gold/yellow with a grey 
tinge to it and there were pools of silver floating on top. I have no idea 
what the ppm's would be but I used it anyway and did not notice any 
difference in curative power.
The inside of my maker jar has become plated dark silver gray also. I never 
clean my maker jar because I do not want to contaminate with anything.


I have effectively and satisfactorily used my homemade CS for:
Strep throat (immediate relief),
Conjunctavitis (pink eye),
Open scrapes and wounds,
Stomach disorders,
Toenail fungus,
Sinus infections,
My Grand Daughter uses it for her acne like zits,
I use 20 to 100%  in my heated CPAP humidifier reservoir (yes it plates 
metal and plastic also),

I rinse/swish my mouth after brushing with baking soda at least once a week,
I mist lettuce heads, and bagged salad mix to stop early wilting,
and I could go on.

Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2006 #629

2006-09-20 Thread Staya Udanvti Bob Butler
 
Stop Smoking
1/2 teaspoon cream of tartar
8 oz. orange juice
 
Mix cream of tartar and orange juice
Every night drink at bedtime
Next morning nicotine comes out in your urine
Next day you will smoke fewer cigarettes
By the end of the month you will be down to nothing
 
Some people it only takes 10-15 days
Others it takes 30 days,  it is according to how many cigarettes you smoke the  
more you smoke the longer it will take.
 
Cheap and is very easy and it works.

Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti
  - Original Message - 
  From: meeja...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:09 AM
  Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2006 #629


  Bob,how much creme of tartar do u put in the juice?

Re: CSbetter generator?

2006-09-20 Thread nathan cross

Hi Bob

Good to hear from you
I'm like you. I think simpler is better. Especially with c/s where the 
benefits are so great i don't think its worth splitting hairs over the finer 
points as long as i know i am producing something that is safe and 
effective, i am happy. Sounds good about the lettuce i must try it. I might 
even try the ones in the garden too.


Good health to you.

Nathan



From: Staya Udanvti  Bob Butler cheroke...@cox.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSbetter generator?
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:24:39 -0400

Osiyo Nigadv!
Hello Everyone!

I am retired and purchasing an automatic commercial generator is on my 
fuutre long-range plans.
I did a survey of the three top commercial units and chose the Silver Puppy 
just because of Ode's price's. It appears that all the units sold are very 
good and comparable.
But I could not wait and could not afford to buy CS so I made my own unit I 
have been using for over a year now.
I took a CD player transformer rated at: 5 VDC and 750 mA, cut of the jack, 
stripped the wires and attached two alligator clips.
I bought 12 inches of 14 ga .999 silver wire on-line, cut in half and added 
a 1/4 bend on one end for my electrodes.
I cut off the bottom of a powdered drink concentrate plastic container and 
drilled two 14 ga holes in it at the width of the quart (sm) mason jar I am 
using. The indentations on the plastic bottom just fit the mason jar lip 
opening so it would not slip around.
I put the electrodes thru the lid, connected the clips to the bent 
electrodes and plugged the transformer in.
I tried to measure the current with my Fluke meter and it was so low my 300 
mA scale would not show any reading.
Using Wal-Mart distilled water it took about 8 hours to develop a light 
golden color with fuzz on the electrodes. Hearing from others it appeared 
that I had just made some very good homemade CS at about 15 to 20 ppm.




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CSGender confusion

2006-09-20 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Angel,
I just noticed you are a She, not a He. Sorry.

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Re: CSblood pressure

2006-09-20 Thread Staya Udanvti Bob Butler

Hi Ruth!

The salt thing is a quandary for all as there is tons of negative and 
positive on all.
In my experience any salt that has been iodized has gone thru a processing 
that does change the texture of the salt making it pour when it rains.
It has been found that the pure sea salts or pure canning salt is better for 
you than any table salt.

The Real Salt brand is one of the good ones.
Some labels that have no iodine in them say something like it is wrong to 
take it.
I use Real Salt in my nasal irrigation solution NeilMed bottle and it is 
perfect. I tried table salt and it burned terribly.


Celtic Sea Salt is recommended by my ND.

Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti

- Original Message - 
From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: CSblood pressure


Hi, I have consistently low sodium.  Was told to eat lots of salt. 
Chiropractor tells me to use sea salt.  Have been using  Iodized seasalt 
Haines.  Chiropractor is encouraging me to use  RealSalt diluting it in 
warm water.  You add sea salt to a pint or so of water until salt no 
longer dissolves.  Take a tablespoon or so now and then of this diluted 
salt.  When I tried this, I found that the little brown grains in the 
realsalt do not dissolve while the white ones would continue to dissolve 
longer.  Have to ask him about this when I see him tomorrow.  Will post 
his answer.  I have questions about amounts of salt to use, also.  ruth


From Ruth Strackbein



From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSblood pressure
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT)

Linda, you might try adding potassium to your calcium and magnesium 
supplement. Exercising and lowering salt is also helpful. I think that the 
life extension sells a product that is natural for lowering blood 
pressure.
  I also wonder about the colon issue. It seems that it would show up on 
a colonoscopy doesnt it?



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CS

2006-09-20 Thread Leonardo van Goens
A bit of advice we were given during classes by White Lodge (Surey, England) so 
many years ago.

I do not have the original texts (alas! Thief came; thief went, with a good 
suitcase, which was around all off my irreplaceable metaphysical lessons, 
drawings and papers.)



Together with CS do the Honey wash:



Take a few liters of lukewarm water. Not too hot, rather on the side of 'just' 
warm, or you'll kill your bowel flora (and yourself, which is not what we're 
after). This tepid water mix with a quart cup of honey ( or a li'll more), and 
allow to flow into the abdomen (grocery stores sell excellent devices with 
hoses, plastic pieces and all; handyman/~women make them, themselves). Leave it 
in as long as you can - you'll reach a point where you can't stand the 
pressure no more, so stay near the bathroom, for: fuff there it goes, with all 
the impurities it contains.

Do not do the honey wash too often; then it may harm your intestinal flora. 
Together with your monthly fast may be a good parameter.

Those who need it the least will hardly have any side-effects. But: If you 
suffer from slight symptoms like 'gasses', mild abdominal pains, bowel-cramps 
or slow bowel movements, not enough weekly stool (should be daily), or if you 
have bad breath, or your excrements really smell bad -to mention a few logical 
symptoms- this may be a good beginning of feeling much, much better.

Take Care,

Faith

Licensed Reflexology-therapist

Behold that turtle ...


CSSimple Generator, ONE more component

2006-09-20 Thread Wayne Fugitt


 I have read all the messages relative to simple generators and 
problems with some of the automatic generators.


I would sum up all problems to be related to one important thing,

Lack of Knowledge.

No matter if a person is technical or non technical, he must firm up 
in his mind a simple and basic understanding of the process.


I fully realized this when I was a beginner.  I am sure the technical 
people will agree with me.   Some may have had experience with other 
similar processes, which made it much easier for them.


Two things make this easy for everyone, technical and non technical.

That is  Current Flow and  Time.
These both have to happen and need to be uniform.

When things start to change with either of these, we need to know it.

Relative to the simple generators,  I can't understand why everyone 
does not add a simple LED.


I suspect the lower voltage units, 5, 6, or 12 volt DC may not 
preform as well with the LED as the 24, 27, 52 Volt units, or even higher.


I have even added LEDS to 240 and 480 control systems with success.

What doe the LED tell us?

Very simple, ... the Process is working, working too fast, or not at all.

If the LED is too bright during the first few seconds,  REJECT the WATER !

How much simpler can you get?   A FIFTY CENT instrument.
Unless one is blind, he can understand this.

The next tool, that could be considered FREE, due to the value of CS 
is a simple current meter.  These vary from a cheap 5 or 10 dollar 
Multimeter to a 1 INCH LCD digital meter with all kind of input settings.


Next keep a log of time and current flow.
I did this from BATCH ONE.  Still have the notes in my CS package in 
a small notebook.


I did this at frequent intervals,
current at 5 min
at 10 minutes  and so fourth up to 30 minutes, 45 minutes and one hour.

This is just as important with the better automatic units as it is 
with the cheapest and simplest unit one can make.


Unless the unit has a built in current meter, this is the proof and 
quality control that is needed for batch after batch.


It certainly is important to the automatic units as well as the 
simple 2 pr 3 component unit.


I have seen only one or two of the Self Contained units and automatic 
units.   Seems they would be more trouble to use the current meter as 
to connecting it into the circuit.   I think it could be done in a 
number of ways with simple mechanics.


For the LED to work properly and last indefinitely a current limiting 
resistor must be used.  The size will be 600 to 12 ohms for the lower 
voltage in the 5 to 12 volt range and  1200 to 2400 for the higher 
voltage units of 24 to 52 volts.


The conductivity of the solution is also a current limiter 
resistor.  This is why the brilliance of the LED changes slightly 
with time as the batch nears completion.


The very important function of the LED, for the ones that do not have 
an EC meter is that of rejecting distilled water.  If the LED is 
bright, reject the water.


Avoid the LEDS with blinking circuits, multicolor functions or any 
other fancy features.   This effects low current draw and they may 
not work at all.


Any comments or questions?

Wayne






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Re: CSblood pressure

2006-09-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
Iodizing has nothing to do with the ingredients added to prevent clumping.  For
complete information on the ingredients and their actions see
http://sci-toys.com/ingredients/table_salt.html

Marshall

Staya Udanvti Bob Butler wrote:

 Hi Ruth!

 The salt thing is a quandary for all as there is tons of negative and
 positive on all.
 In my experience any salt that has been iodized has gone thru a processing
 that does change the texture of the salt making it pour when it rains.
 It has been found that the pure sea salts or pure canning salt is better for
 you than any table salt.
 The Real Salt brand is one of the good ones.
 Some labels that have no iodine in them say something like it is wrong to
 take it.
 I use Real Salt in my nasal irrigation solution NeilMed bottle and it is
 perfect. I tried table salt and it burned terribly.

 Celtic Sea Salt is recommended by my ND.

 Love
 Bob
 Adageyudi
 Staya Udanvti

 - Original Message -
 From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM
 Subject: RE: CSblood pressure

  Hi, I have consistently low sodium.  Was told to eat lots of salt.
  Chiropractor tells me to use sea salt.  Have been using  Iodized seasalt
  Haines.  Chiropractor is encouraging me to use  RealSalt diluting it in
  warm water.  You add sea salt to a pint or so of water until salt no
  longer dissolves.  Take a tablespoon or so now and then of this diluted
  salt.  When I tried this, I found that the little brown grains in the
  realsalt do not dissolve while the white ones would continue to dissolve
  longer.  Have to ask him about this when I see him tomorrow.  Will post
  his answer.  I have questions about amounts of salt to use, also.  ruth
 
  From Ruth Strackbein
 
 
 From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSblood pressure
 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Linda, you might try adding potassium to your calcium and magnesium
 supplement. Exercising and lowering salt is also helpful. I think that the
 life extension sells a product that is natural for lowering blood
 pressure.
I also wonder about the colon issue. It seems that it would show up on
  a colonoscopy doesnt it?
 
 
 -
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   Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail.
 
 
 
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Re: CSColonic appliance instructions

2006-09-20 Thread nessie

Hmmm...
Just wondering, would you not be working against gravity in the 
sitting position.

   nessie..
**


Terry Chamberlin wrote:

Personal Colonic Appliance

Parts  assembly:


   




  



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Re: CSblood pressure

2006-09-20 Thread ruth strackbein
Thanks, Marshall,  I am presently disolving Real Salt in warm water until 
the salt begins to settle in the bottom of the container, letting me know 
that no more will dissolve.  Then I add just a tad more water in case I 
didn't stop soon enough.  Am working with a fussy digestive tract, to watch 
out for little things.  I sip on this. 2-3 times a day.  Will check with the 
chiropractor tomorrow just how often.  Also am wondering, the white 
particles will still dissolve , but the little brown specks didn't when I 
stopped add ing Real Salt. The water seemed to be plenty salty, so I stopped 
even though I maybe could have added more.

Ruth


From Ruth Strackbein




From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSblood pressure
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:28:21 -0400

Iodizing has nothing to do with the ingredients added to prevent clumping.  
For

complete information on the ingredients and their actions see
http://sci-toys.com/ingredients/table_salt.html

Marshall

Staya Udanvti Bob Butler wrote:

 Hi Ruth!

 The salt thing is a quandary for all as there is tons of negative and
 positive on all.
 In my experience any salt that has been iodized has gone thru a 
processing

 that does change the texture of the salt making it pour when it rains.
 It has been found that the pure sea salts or pure canning salt is better 
for

 you than any table salt.
 The Real Salt brand is one of the good ones.
 Some labels that have no iodine in them say something like it is wrong 
to

 take it.
 I use Real Salt in my nasal irrigation solution NeilMed bottle and it is
 perfect. I tried table salt and it burned terribly.

 Celtic Sea Salt is recommended by my ND.

 Love
 Bob
 Adageyudi
 Staya Udanvti

 - Original Message -
 From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM
 Subject: RE: CSblood pressure

  Hi, I have consistently low sodium.  Was told to eat lots of salt.
  Chiropractor tells me to use sea salt.  Have been using  Iodized 
seasalt
  Haines.  Chiropractor is encouraging me to use  RealSalt diluting it 
in

  warm water.  You add sea salt to a pint or so of water until salt no
  longer dissolves.  Take a tablespoon or so now and then of this 
diluted

  salt.  When I tried this, I found that the little brown grains in the
  realsalt do not dissolve while the white ones would continue to 
dissolve
  longer.  Have to ask him about this when I see him tomorrow.  Will 
post
  his answer.  I have questions about amounts of salt to use, also.  
ruth

 
  From Ruth Strackbein
 
 
 From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSblood pressure
 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Linda, you might try adding potassium to your calcium and magnesium
 supplement. Exercising and lowering salt is also helpful. I think that 
the

 life extension sells a product that is natural for lowering blood
 pressure.
I also wonder about the colon issue. It seems that it would show up 
on

  a colonoscopy doesnt it?
 
 
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 Do you Yahoo!?
   Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail.
 
 
 
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RE: CSSimple Generator, ONE more component

2006-09-20 Thread Dan Nave
 Hi Wayne,

I pretty much agree with you.

I recently made a fancy homemade CS maker with adjustable current
regulation and adjustable auto-shutoff.
Auto-shutoff is really great, especially when making CS more often or in
large quantities which takes more time.  One really appreciates the
convenience of  being able to leave the setup alone to finish on it's
own.   Having the ability to vary current and shut-off level allows one
to do so much more with various electrode and cell geometry.  I still
had and will have to do as you suggest, record voltage and current
levels vs. time every time I change any of the variables of the CS
maker.  Once you change something, you have to know enough about the
process to figure out, once again, where you are operating and what you
are producing.

I also put an LED in the output of my generator as an indicator that it
is brewing.  It only has brightness change at the very start of the run
as it is current limited and right now I am running at about 20 ma.  

I started out making CS with an unregulated voltage and two 4 inch
electrodes without meters or any instruments.  I subsequently added a
resistor in series and measured the voltage drop across it so I could
calculate the current.  (I had a voltmeter but no ammeter and didn't
have a cheap source for one.)  I think an LED would have been useful for
that cell.  

Don't forget (less technical people), you have to get the LED connected
in the correct polarity (correct way around).   One way will allow
current to flow but the reverse way will block it.  It won't blow up
your circuit but it will prevent it from operating if it is in the wrong
way.

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSimple Generator, ONE more component


I have read all the messages relative to simple generators and problems
with some of the automatic generators.

I would sum up all problems to be related to one important thing,

Lack of Knowledge.

No matter if a person is technical or non technical, he must firm up in
his mind a simple and basic understanding of the process.

I fully realized this when I was a beginner.  I am sure the technical 
people will agree with me.   Some may have had experience with other 
similar processes, which made it much easier for them.

Two things make this easy for everyone, technical and non technical.

That is  Current Flow and  Time.
These both have to happen and need to be uniform.

When things start to change with either of these, we need to know it.

Relative to the simple generators,  I can't understand why everyone does
not add a simple LED.

I suspect the lower voltage units, 5, 6, or 12 volt DC may not preform
as well with the LED as the 24, 27, 52 Volt units, or even higher.

I have even added LEDS to 240 and 480 control systems with success.

What doe the LED tell us?

Very simple, ... the Process is working, working too fast, or not at
all.

If the LED is too bright during the first few seconds,  REJECT the WATER
!

How much simpler can you get?   A FIFTY CENT instrument.
Unless one is blind, he can understand this.

The next tool, that could be considered FREE, due to the value of CS is
a simple current meter.  These vary from a cheap 5 or 10 dollar
Multimeter to a 1 INCH LCD digital meter with all kind of input
settings.

Next keep a log of time and current flow.
I did this from BATCH ONE.  Still have the notes in my CS package in a
small notebook.

I did this at frequent intervals,
current at 5 min
at 10 minutes  and so fourth up to 30 minutes, 45 minutes and one hour.

This is just as important with the better automatic units as it is with
the cheapest and simplest unit one can make.

Unless the unit has a built in current meter, this is the proof and
quality control that is needed for batch after batch.

It certainly is important to the automatic units as well as the simple 2
pr 3 component unit.

I have seen only one or two of the Self Contained units and automatic 
units.   Seems they would be more trouble to use the current meter as 
to connecting it into the circuit.   I think it could be done in a 
number of ways with simple mechanics.

For the LED to work properly and last indefinitely a current limiting
resistor must be used.  The size will be 600 to 12 ohms for the lower
voltage in the 5 to 12 volt range and  1200 to 2400 for the higher
voltage units of 24 to 52 volts.

The conductivity of the solution is also a current limiter resistor.
This is why the brilliance of the LED changes slightly with time as the
batch nears completion.

The very important function of the LED, for the ones that do not have an
EC meter is that of rejecting distilled water.  If the LED is bright,
reject the water.

Avoid the LEDS with blinking circuits, multicolor functions or any 
other fancy features.   This effects low current draw and they may 
not work at all.

Any comments 

RE: CSblood pressure

2006-09-20 Thread Dan Nave
 The brown specs are probably sand, dirt, or some other kind of
debris...
Probably nothing to worry about.

Dan



-Original Message-
From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSblood pressure

Thanks, Marshall,  I am presently disolving Real Salt in warm water
until the salt begins to settle in the bottom of the container, letting
me know that no more will dissolve.  Then I add just a tad more water in
case I didn't stop soon enough.  Am working with a fussy digestive
tract, to watch out for little things.  I sip on this. 2-3 times a day.
Will check with the chiropractor tomorrow just how often.  Also am
wondering, the white particles will still dissolve , but the little
brown specks didn't when I stopped add ing Real Salt. The water seemed
to be plenty salty, so I stopped even though I maybe could have added
more.
Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein


From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSblood pressure
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:28:21 -0400

Iodizing has nothing to do with the ingredients added to prevent
clumping.  
For
complete information on the ingredients and their actions see 
http://sci-toys.com/ingredients/table_salt.html

Marshall

Staya Udanvti Bob Butler wrote:

  Hi Ruth!
 
  The salt thing is a quandary for all as there is tons of negative 
  and positive on all.
  In my experience any salt that has been iodized has gone thru a
processing
  that does change the texture of the salt making it pour when it
rains.
  It has been found that the pure sea salts or pure canning salt is 
  better
for
  you than any table salt.
  The Real Salt brand is one of the good ones.
  Some labels that have no iodine in them say something like it is 
  wrong
to
  take it.
  I use Real Salt in my nasal irrigation solution NeilMed bottle and 
  it is perfect. I tried table salt and it burned terribly.
 
  Celtic Sea Salt is recommended by my ND.
 
  Love
  Bob
  Adageyudi
  Staya Udanvti
 
  - Original Message -
  From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM
  Subject: RE: CSblood pressure
 
   Hi, I have consistently low sodium.  Was told to eat lots of salt.
   Chiropractor tells me to use sea salt.  Have been using  Iodized
seasalt
   Haines.  Chiropractor is encouraging me to use  RealSalt diluting 
   it
in
   warm water.  You add sea salt to a pint or so of water until salt 
   no longer dissolves.  Take a tablespoon or so now and then of this
diluted
   salt.  When I tried this, I found that the little brown grains in 
   the realsalt do not dissolve while the white ones would continue 
   to
dissolve
   longer.  Have to ask him about this when I see him tomorrow.  Will
post
   his answer.  I have questions about amounts of salt to use, also.

ruth
  
   From Ruth Strackbein
  
  
  From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
  Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSblood pressure
  Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
  
  Linda, you might try adding potassium to your calcium and 
  magnesium supplement. Exercising and lowering salt is also 
  helpful. I think that
the
  life extension sells a product that is natural for lowering blood 
  pressure.
 I also wonder about the colon issue. It seems that it would 
  show up
on
   a colonoscopy doesnt it?
  
  
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Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail.
  
  
  
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RE: CSblood pressure

2006-09-20 Thread ruth strackbein

Ruth


From Ruth Strackbein




From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSblood pressure
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:48:55 -0500

 The brown specs are probably sand, dirt, or some other kind of
debris...
Probably nothing to worry about.

Dan



-Original Message-
From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSblood pressure

Thanks, Marshall,  I am presently disolving Real Salt in warm water
until the salt begins to settle in the bottom of the container, letting
me know that no more will dissolve.  Then I add just a tad more water in
case I didn't stop soon enough.  Am working with a fussy digestive
tract, to watch out for little things.  I sip on this. 2-3 times a day.
Will check with the chiropractor tomorrow just how often.  Also am
wondering, the white particles will still dissolve , but the little
brown specks didn't when I stopped add ing Real Salt. The water seemed
to be plenty salty, so I stopped even though I maybe could have added
more.
Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein


From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSblood pressure
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:28:21 -0400

Iodizing has nothing to do with the ingredients added to prevent
clumping.
For
complete information on the ingredients and their actions see
http://sci-toys.com/ingredients/table_salt.html

Marshall

Staya Udanvti Bob Butler wrote:

  Hi Ruth!
 
  The salt thing is a quandary for all as there is tons of negative
  and positive on all.
  In my experience any salt that has been iodized has gone thru a
processing
  that does change the texture of the salt making it pour when it
rains.
  It has been found that the pure sea salts or pure canning salt is
  better
for
  you than any table salt.
  The Real Salt brand is one of the good ones.
  Some labels that have no iodine in them say something like it is
  wrong
to
  take it.
  I use Real Salt in my nasal irrigation solution NeilMed bottle and
  it is perfect. I tried table salt and it burned terribly.
 
  Celtic Sea Salt is recommended by my ND.
 
  Love
  Bob
  Adageyudi
  Staya Udanvti
 
  - Original Message -
  From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM
  Subject: RE: CSblood pressure
 
   Hi, I have consistently low sodium.  Was told to eat lots of salt.
   Chiropractor tells me to use sea salt.  Have been using  Iodized
seasalt
   Haines.  Chiropractor is encouraging me to use  RealSalt diluting
   it
in
   warm water.  You add sea salt to a pint or so of water until salt
   no longer dissolves.  Take a tablespoon or so now and then of this
diluted
   salt.  When I tried this, I found that the little brown grains in
   the realsalt do not dissolve while the white ones would continue
   to
dissolve
   longer.  Have to ask him about this when I see him tomorrow.  Will
post
   his answer.  I have questions about amounts of salt to use, also.

ruth
  
   From Ruth Strackbein
  
  
  From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
  Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSblood pressure
  Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
  
  Linda, you might try adding potassium to your calcium and
  magnesium supplement. Exercising and lowering salt is also
  helpful. I think that
the
  life extension sells a product that is natural for lowering blood
  pressure.
 I also wonder about the colon issue. It seems that it would
  show up
on
   a colonoscopy doesnt it?
  
  
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Re: CSblood pressure

2006-09-20 Thread ruth strackbein
Thanks for your good information re salt.  I am dealing with so many aspects 
of this digestion thing, that I need all the information I can get.  The 
list is a real help. Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSblood pressure
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:28:21 -0400

Iodizing has nothing to do with the ingredients added to prevent clumping.  
For

complete information on the ingredients and their actions see
http://sci-toys.com/ingredients/table_salt.html

Marshall

Staya Udanvti Bob Butler wrote:

 Hi Ruth!

 The salt thing is a quandary for all as there is tons of negative and
 positive on all.
 In my experience any salt that has been iodized has gone thru a 
processing

 that does change the texture of the salt making it pour when it rains.
 It has been found that the pure sea salts or pure canning salt is better 
for

 you than any table salt.
 The Real Salt brand is one of the good ones.
 Some labels that have no iodine in them say something like it is wrong 
to

 take it.
 I use Real Salt in my nasal irrigation solution NeilMed bottle and it is
 perfect. I tried table salt and it burned terribly.

 Celtic Sea Salt is recommended by my ND.

 Love
 Bob
 Adageyudi
 Staya Udanvti

 - Original Message -
 From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM
 Subject: RE: CSblood pressure

  Hi, I have consistently low sodium.  Was told to eat lots of salt.
  Chiropractor tells me to use sea salt.  Have been using  Iodized 
seasalt
  Haines.  Chiropractor is encouraging me to use  RealSalt diluting it 
in

  warm water.  You add sea salt to a pint or so of water until salt no
  longer dissolves.  Take a tablespoon or so now and then of this 
diluted

  salt.  When I tried this, I found that the little brown grains in the
  realsalt do not dissolve while the white ones would continue to 
dissolve
  longer.  Have to ask him about this when I see him tomorrow.  Will 
post
  his answer.  I have questions about amounts of salt to use, also.  
ruth

 
  From Ruth Strackbein
 
 
 From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSblood pressure
 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Linda, you might try adding potassium to your calcium and magnesium
 supplement. Exercising and lowering salt is also helpful. I think that 
the

 life extension sells a product that is natural for lowering blood
 pressure.
I also wonder about the colon issue. It seems that it would show up 
on

  a colonoscopy doesnt it?
 
 
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RE: CS

2006-09-20 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Faith, Sounds like a possible plan.  I am gathering a great deal of 
information about colon cleanses .  Have to check it all out and run it past 
my chiropractor and M.D.  My M.D. goes along with many of the  possible 
treatments I have come up with, if I think something will work , I will do 
it whatever. I appreciate any possible helps. Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Leonardo van Goens faithstfran...@interneeds.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:23:35 -0400

A bit of advice we were given during classes by White Lodge (Surey, 
England) so many years ago.


I do not have the original texts (alas! Thief came; thief went, with a good 
suitcase, which was around all off my irreplaceable metaphysical lessons, 
drawings and papers.)




Together with CS do the Honey wash:



Take a few liters of lukewarm water. Not too hot, rather on the side of 
'just' warm, or you'll kill your bowel flora (and yourself, which is not 
what we're after). This tepid water mix with a quart cup of honey ( or a 
li'll more), and allow to flow into the abdomen (grocery stores sell 
excellent devices with hoses, plastic pieces and all; handyman/~women make 
them, themselves). Leave it in as long as you can - you'll reach a point 
where you can't stand the pressure no more, so stay near the bathroom, for: 
fuff there it goes, with all the impurities it contains.


Do not do the honey wash too often; then it may harm your intestinal flora. 
Together with your monthly fast may be a good parameter.


Those who need it the least will hardly have any side-effects. But: If you 
suffer from slight symptoms like 'gasses', mild abdominal pains, 
bowel-cramps or slow bowel movements, not enough weekly stool (should be 
daily), or if you have bad breath, or your excrements really smell bad -to 
mention a few logical symptoms- this may be a good beginning of feeling 
much, much better.


Take Care,

Faith

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RE: CSColonic appliance instructions

2006-09-20 Thread ruth strackbein
Thanks, Terry,  Will add your instructions to other information I am 
gathering re my colon problems.  Have to check my bathroom sink, about the 
faucets.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSColonic appliance instructions
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:12:53 -0400 (EDT)

Personal Colonic Appliance

Parts  assembly:

1. You will need to unscrew and remove the tip from
the bathroom faucet you will be attaching the Colonic
Appliance to. Take this tip to a hardware store and
ask the clerk to give you attachments which, on one
end, will screw on to your faucet (in place of the tip
you previously removed), and on the other end you will
attach some 3/4 clear plastic flexible tubing. You
may need several attachments put together to
accomplish this. It also isn't essential that the
tubing is clear, just so long as it's flexible. You
will need 3 of this 3/4 tubing.

2. You will next need a length of 1/2 flexible
plastic tubing, enough to reach from the sink faucet
to the toilet, with an extra couple of feet to spare,
usually 6' - 8' (or as much as you need). One end of
the 1/2 tubing slides loosely about 1” into the free
end of the 3/4 tubing (after it has been attached to
the faucet fitting) and a straight pin or large safety
pin is pushed sideways through the middle of both
tubes, thereby locking the 1/2 tube inside of the
3/4 tube (see drawing). Look for this tubing at a
store that carries beer/wine-making supplies – some
pharmacies carry it. Sometimes a hardware store has
it, but it can be more expensive than the store with
beer/wine-making supplies.

3. On the other end of the 1/2 tubing, you will need
a hand-operated off/on squeeze-clamp that will enable
you to control the flow of water from the faucet to
yourself. This is the same clamp that is on the tube
coming from an enema bag/bottle. On this end of the
1/2 tubing you will need to attach a female douche
tip.

Instructions:
This procedure is best done right after a bowel
movement or an enema. First, close the clamp all the
way, then turn on the faucet and adjust the water
temperature until it is pleasantly warm (a little
above room temp). The water will spray out the end of
the 3/4 tubing, around the 1/2” tubing which is
inside the 3/4 tubing, and into the sink.  The
strength of the water spray should be a little more
than a trickle. This Colonic Appliance will not work
on sinks which have a cold water faucet separate from
the hot water faucet (the water would be too cold or
hot, depending on which faucet it was attached to).
The idea here is to insert the douche tip into the
rectum as far as is comfortable and sit down on the
toilet. The tubing going to the sink will come out
between your legs. By regulating the flow of water
into yourself, you will feel yourself gradually
filling up. At no time should you feel any pain or
discomfort (other than feeling full), and you should
regulate the water flow so as to prevent any pain or
discomfort, by limiting the flow into you to a slow
trickle. When you feel full, close the clamp and
expel the water around the douche tip that is inside
you, which will stay inside you. You will probably
need to attach two lengths of cord or string about
18-24 long, each, to the base of the douche tip and
tie them around your thighs (with the knot above your
legs in front of your stomach) after you sit down to
keep the douche tip from coming out when you expel the
water. The process is to fill up your colon as much as
is comfortable (‘till you feel full) and then expel
it. Repeat the process several times, as many as 5-8
times. It is good to drink warm water or herbal tea
before and while doing this to prevent cramps. You may
notice that each time you expel water, there is room
for more water inside yourself. This is because, each
time you expel the water, you also expel fecal matter
from inside your colon. As the water goes deeper into
the colon, more fecal matter is loosened and expelled.
Some people hold the water in for a minute or two
before expelling it to give it time to soften the
fecal matter. This procedure can be done two or three
times a week for two weeks, then once a week for two
or three weeks more. Wait two or three weeks before
starting the procedure again. Then wait two or three
months before repeating the procedure. The purpose is
to periodically cleanse the colon of accumulated fecal
matter. When you feel a cold coming on, a colonic is
many times enough to stop the cold.

I went to a local pharmacy today and found a Water
bottle  syringe, plus douche tip for about $12. You
would need to buy the whole thing just to get the
douche tip, but you could also use the hose clamp from
the water bottle tube. Just slide it onto the clear
1/2 hose.

I am intending on purchasing the parts soon and
assembling another one myself (I lost my other one
during a move) so I can both utilize it and so I can
take digital photos of 

Re: CSblood pressure/low sodium to Ruth

2006-09-20 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Paula, I am already juicing.  Have felt that maybe celery doesn't agree 
with me.  Will try it again.  My chiropractor gives me the same advice you 
have.  Will look into these things.  Thanks, Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSblood pressure/low sodium to Ruth
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:04:34 -0400

Ruth,
I have the same problem with low sodium. Table salt and sea salt is not
going to do you much good. You need organic salts that are contained in
vegetables. Doctors don't get it. You need actual foods that are rich in
sodium that your body can absorb. An easy way to correct your problem is to
eat a couple stalks of celery every day which is one of the highest foods 
in
natural, organic sodium. Having low sodium is very serious. When you are 
low

in sodium, you can become very allergic to just about everything. Not to
mention a lack of energy, depression etc. It can lead to very serious
illnesses. Your skin becomes dry and dehydrated, and you also become
constipated!  It can also lead to arthritic pains.  Look at your face in a
mirror. Check-out your lips. If the left corner is lower than the right, a
Sodium deficiency exists.
This is how you can check your improvement when you start working on
correcting your low sodium problem without running to the doctor who gave
you bad advice in the first place. The best way to get your sodium level up
quickly is to have a juicer and juice the celery or other foods high in
sodium.

Food Sources High in Sodium
Kelp, Irish Moss, olives, dulse, celery (kelp and dulse are very 
inexpensive

supplements)
Other sources you can juice-
carrots, okra, spinach, strawberries, apples, beets, asparagus, cucumbers,
plums, radishes and turnips.

Once you correct your sodium level you will find it
helping all of your other health issues. Hope you let us know how it goes.
Best of Luck,
Paula
- Original Message -
From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: CSblood pressure


 Hi, I have consistently low sodium.  Was told to eat lots of salt.
 Chiropractor tells me to use sea salt.  Have been using  Iodized seasalt
 Haines.  Chiropractor is encouraging me to use  RealSalt diluting it in
warm
 water.  You add sea salt to a pint or so of water until salt no longer
 dissolves.  Take a tablespoon or so now and then of this diluted salt.
When
 I tried this, I found that the little brown grains in the realsalt do 
not
 dissolve while the white ones would continue to dissolve longer.  Have 
to
 ask him about this when I see him tomorrow.  Will post his answer.  I 
have

 questions about amounts of salt to use, also.  ruth

 From Ruth Strackbein


 From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSblood pressure
 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Linda, you might try adding potassium to your calcium and magnesium
 supplement. Exercising and lowering salt is also helpful. I think that
the
 life extension sells a product that is natural for lowering blood
pressure.
I also wonder about the colon issue. It seems that it would show up 
on

a
 colonoscopy doesnt it?
 
 
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Re: CSColonic appliance instructions

2006-09-20 Thread Mark S. Siepak
Usually a waterbed-filling kit will have all the adapters, depending on
which kind of filler it is, you might be able to put the 3/4 tubing right on
the filler neckor use a garden hose end, cut off, then slip the 1/2
tubing inside that...

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RE: CSSimple Generator, ONE more component

2006-09-20 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Dan,

 At 12:47 PM 9/20/2006, you wrote:

  Thanks for the comments.


I recently made a fancy homemade CS maker with adjustable current
regulation and adjustable auto-shutoff.

   I have thought about the Adjustable Shutoff feature.

I suppose all technicians have thought about building a sophisticated
system.   I know I have thought about it but never got the start impulse.

I would favor using my control and data logging system.  It has most 
of the components needed including analog inputs, digital inputs, and 
event counters as well as pH meters and EC meters.  Most of these are 
in need of calibration which is  not so hard when we have full 
control of the software.


I have a configuration file that has individual fields for correction 
factors.  I even provided for multiply scale factors and divide scale factors.
Next I added a line or two of code that checks each. If both are 
zero, the program will not run.  If no change is needed on the data, 
a simple ONE input into the field will leave it unchanged and let the 
program run.

Dividing by zero is a hard task for most processors.


Auto-shutoff is really great, especially when making CS more often or in
large quantities which takes more time.


   This would be very easy on a computer controlled system.
You could change most any data value within a few seconds due to the 
configuration file. One could have multiple configuration files 
stored in another directory and copy the one needed into the program directory.
I wrote a special edit program for the configuration file.  Typically 
I can edit this while the program is running and copy it into the 
program directory and the program never has to be stopped to change 
any configuration.



 One really appreciates the
convenience of  being able to leave the setup alone to finish on it's
own.   Having the ability to vary current and shut-off level allows one
to do so much more with various electrode and cell geometry.


   I understand.  That part would be fun with the computer 
controlled stuff, yet very simple.


Usually what I do when I want a new application for my program is to 
simply make a new copy, then start to take a few things out and add a 
few lines here and there.   This is a 10,000 line C program I worked 
on over a 5 year period.   The data logging is icing on the cake.  It 
will even write a C binary file and a DBF file, both at the same time.

 ( Almost the same time )
Each data channel  logged can have an individual file name or be 
logged into the default common data file.



 I still had and will have to do as you suggest, record voltage and current
levels vs. time every time I change any of the variables of the CS
maker.  Once you change something, you have to know enough about the 
process to figure out, once again, where you are operating and what 
you are producing.


   Yes, this is the final proof.  Being a technician for near 50 
years, I have always used my current meters more than any technician 
I have known.
Final proof of correct operation of any circuit is the current 
draw.  No current, no work.   I usually have a very good DC current 
meter and a 300
AMP AC current meter with me at all times.   Also have a 50 AMP meter 
shunt for the larger DC stuff that the Fluke meter will not handle.


For a number of years I serviced large Inverter system and was the 
factory service rep for Computer Power,  Emergilite, Chloride 
Systems, and Hunt Electronics.   Darn, what a variety of 
equipment.  No wonder my mind is worn out.



I also put an LED in the output of my generator as an indicator that it
is brewing.  It only has brightness change at the very start of the run
as it is current limited and right now I am running at about 20 ma.
   True, but nothing beats a visual indicator that everything is 
working lovely.   A glance is all it takes.




 I think an LED would have been useful for
that cell.

   Yes, the eye is an amazing measuring tool.



Don't forget (less technical people), you have to get the LED connected
in the correct polarity (correct way around).   One way will allow
current to flow but the reverse way will block it.  It won't blow up
your circuit but it will prevent it from operating if it is in the wrong
way.


  True, I know I left out several things.  I advise people, 
If you have no technical knowledge,  Make friends with someone who 
does.   Heck there is a technician of sorts on every corner these days.


I think it takes 100 technicians to keep  100 non technical people working.

Do you do the auto cutoff on current flow only?

I firmly believe that the non technical can master the use of the diode.
If they can't, they can seek help from the corner technician.

I have a friend who winds starters and generators for living.  He did 
not understand how a simple diode works.   I gave him about a 15 
minute short course and the next week he was finding bad diodes in equipment.

Often a little help goes a long ways.

Wayne




CS

2006-09-20 Thread Dan Nave
Leigh,
 
First of all, what's a bil?
 
Assuming it is something like a significant-other or spouse...
 
I don't have experience with honey.  But, the wound might benefit from
bentonite clay packs, see EytonsEarth 
 
http://www.eytonsearth.org/ http://www.eytonsearth.org/   
 
effective for wounds and probably especially effective for something due
to spider bite.  Hydrate the clay with your homemade colloidal silver,
or at least use that as a portion of the water for wetting the clay.
 
Another thing would be colloidal silver with 10 to 20% DMSO added will
help the CS to penetrate into the wound and kill bacteria.  I would
suggest not using the DMSO constantly, but once or twice a day with the
CS to dilute it, then keep it wet with regular CS the rest of the time.
 
Bagging the area of the wound and instilling ozone into the bag may also
be an option.
 
Dan



From: rous...@cox.net [mailto:rous...@cox.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:41 PM
To: SO
Subject: SO


Was wondering if anyone has had any experience with Manuka honey for
healing wounds? 


My bil has a wound that has resisted conventional treatment, including
two pricey silver compounds supplied by his doctor. The doctor has
pretty much thrown up his hands, and told him and my sister to see if
they could come up with any ideas before his next appointment. (I know
that this sounds weird, but that's what he told them, and they're at a
loss, so they asked me. His treating M.D. is a wound specialist, and
seems well intended, but has apparently exhausted his bag of tricks.) 


They seem to think the wound probably originated from a spider bite,
possibly a brown recluse, but by the time the lab work was done, there
was nothing conclusive (As I understand it, they did not isolate any
verifiable venom present in the samples.) 


Perhaps I should add that my bil is a cancer survivor, and has some
residual circulatory issues. Some were repaired with stents (as part of
the wound treatment), which did seem to have a positive effect on the
would showing signs of healing for a while, but it has reverted now and
reopened. The doctor suggested he may have some deep venous issues, but
made no suggestions regarding treatment. (At one time, given his
circulatory issues, hyperbaric treatments were discussed as a
possibility, but cost and distance are prohibitive.) 


I had previously read a bit about honey as an effective wound dressing,
so looked into it, and the research I've done seems to suggest that
Manuka honey from New Zealand (or Australian golden honey-- both
harvested from tea tree groves) has a higher efficacy than other honey,
and has been used successfully on persistent wounds. 


Before I ordered it for them, I thought I'd see if anyone here could
offer any input on the subject-- pro, con, or otherwise. 


I apologize if this has been discussed previously and I missed it, but
the archives seem to be down right now, so I can't search. 


Any input would be appreciated. 


Kindest regards, 


Leigh 


 


Re: CS

2006-09-20 Thread Mark S. Siepak
Brother In Law = bil
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Re: CSChronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease or COPD

2006-09-20 Thread Geoping
i stopped at our local pathmark, to pick up some cream of tartar to try,,  
found it in the spice aisle, in an tiny jar, (maybe 2 or 3 teaspoon jar),, for  
about 5 dollars,, is this the same stuff, if so this would be quite costly,, 
,,  and yes i know , if it works , it would be so cheap in the long run,, just 
want  to make sure i am getting the right stuff,,, because, i also seen cream 
of  tartar, in the mayonaise aisle , for a fraction of the cost. thanks to 
all,  geo. 


Re: CSRe: FW: CSbetter generator?

2006-09-20 Thread Geoping
i am new at this , and using a  c/s gen. from herbal remedies..  
herbalremedies.com
a complete kit,, which i like,, with a 800 number for any advise, by a  
master herbalist,, just now sure, of what ppm i am producing, is anyone else  
using 
this item, if so, would appreciate any comments or concerns,, thanks again  
to all, geo. 


CS

2006-09-20 Thread Chin Seong LIM
Return Receipt
   
   Your   CS  
   document:   
   
   wasChin Seong LIM/IDA/SINGOV
   received
   by: 
   
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CShoney to faith

2006-09-20 Thread zeb caffe
Just wondering, what does the honey do for the flora? I know that coffee is 
supposed to help detox the liver.Does honey have a different effect? Also, does 
it matter what type of honey you use?

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CSWater storage

2006-09-20 Thread Deborah Gerard
I think I might of missed the reply to storing water with cs added for 
emergencys can anyone advise? thanks in advance debbie

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2006-09-20 Thread Elainiac58
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