Re: CS>Colloidal silver maker.

[Deborah Gerard]

Hi KirsteenVwho is on this group sells a real inexpensive very simple 
device that works real well for around thirty dollars...email him or me for 
details...debbie

Kirsteen Wright  wrote:I'd really like to be 
able to make my own CS. However i'm just not up to making my own generator - 
very technologically challenged. i was wondering if people thought this silver 
maker would be any use. 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ionic-Colloidal-Silver-Maker-KILLS-650-VIRUSES_W0QQitemZ260048724161QQihZ016QQcategoryZ37822QQcmdZViewItem
   
  I'd really appreciate any comments. Feel free to email me privately if you 
prefer. Basically how do i know it's working?
   
  Many thanks
   
  Kirsteen
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RE: CS>Mother has bone cancer .. what now?

[Dan Nave]

 You wrote:  
 
"2 if there is any other cure known to bring relief of Mom's pain, and maybe 
cure."
 
I know that as a part of the protocol of Dr. Richard Schulze he recommends 
doing Castor Oil packs over the affected area.  These can be done with heat, I 
suppose, but he often has them do it overnight without heat.  Anyway, this is a 
very important part of the therapy as it softens up the area and allows 
circulation and medication etc to the area.  He also reports that even if the 
disease is not cured that this reduces the pain tremendously, in most cases.
 
Dan



From: Leonardo van Goens [mailto:faithstfran...@interneeds.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Mother has bone cancer .. what now?



Respected members of this Forum!

 

For once we have a very serious illness to deal with:

My wife Luz' mother was diagnosed with bone cancer, in the right side of the 
sacrum area. It was confirmed after two biopsies, and Mother bravely rejects 
the idea of either chemo therapy or radio therapy.

 

Luz leaves this afternoon to Medellín (Colombia), to assist her Mom, and she 
will be back in three weeks, if things go well, for we, like Mom do not believe 
(and it is NOT rejection of her case!) that this should be final. There are 
several non-doctor (read: alternative) approaches which can either relieve her, 
or even cure her.

 

In the thought-patterns of our Forum I would like to ask, on behalf of Luz, 

 1 if any of you know if Colloidal Silver may help in some kind of way.

 2 if there is any other cure known to bring relief of Mom's pain, and maybe 
cure.

 3 is any of you familiar with cases where cure was accomplished?

 

Surely later, when my wife is save and sound with her Mother after the voyage 
there, I'll call again for good counsel and any help possible.

 

Until then,

 

Thanks for any information,

 

Faith and Luz.  

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CS>I'm back, with a question about CS & Morgellons

[Nenah Sylver]

Hi all. I've been away and missed almost a half year of posts, so if my 
question is about something that's already been discussed recently, my 
apologies.

My question concerns Morgellons disease. This features filament-like threads of 
what appear to be high density plastic sprouting through the skin, creating 
lesions and sores that don't heal, causing horrible itching and burning and 
pain. There's also considerable neurological damage.

>From my research, in a nutshell it appears that this condition is the result 
>of nanotechnology. The plastics are used to coat viruses that are now being 
>legally sprayed on crops. Some people are also finding worms in the filaments.

The filaments burn only at 1700 degrees Fahrenheit and don't melt. I seem to 
remember from somewhere that colloidal silver did give relief. Since DMSO is a 
solvent, I'm wondering if the combination of the two can get rid of these 
fibers.

Does anyone have information on this? (Just for the record, I don't have this, 
thank Source.)

Many thanks.
Nenah

RE: CS>Mother has bone cancer .. what now?

[Richard Harris]

Dear Faith & Ms Luz,
Thank you for your many wonderful contributions to this forum! Have tried to
contact you direct to answer your question, but haven't been successful.
Please contact me.
Sincerely,
___
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448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
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http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com


  -Original Message-
  From: Leonardo van Goens [mailto:faithstfran...@interneeds.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:59 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>Mother has bone cancer .. what now?


  Respected members of this Forum!



  For once we have a very serious illness to deal with:

  My wife Luz’ mother was diagnosed with bone cancer, in the right side of
the sacrum area. It was confirmed after two biopsies, and Mother bravely
rejects the idea of either chemo therapy or radio therapy.

CS>Faith and Luz-Mom's cancer

[Shirley Reed]

 The colored light therapy used by Dinshah has so far been very effective
for cancer pain for me.   The other suggestions on this list are also good.
Did anyone mention zappers or the Beck protocol?  I use a Croft zapper and
the Beck unit--both are very good.  I still have the cancer but feel better
than I ever have in my life nearly all the time.  There are many things that
are just wonderful.  Best wishes to your Mother!!   pj

CS>Mink rancher, etc.

[Terry Chamberlin]

Carlos said,
> I remember how much emphasis has been placed on the
great importance of using only steam distilled water
of the best quality available in order to produce
adequate EIS for human consumption. Or is it that in
mink and other animals the biological laws work
differently? <

For human usage, we consider distilled water to make
completely safe CS. The minks on this ranch only live
7 months before their coats are taken from them. If
they can get argyria in seven months, I don't think it
matters. (Blue mink coats? There might be a market
there.)

Mike said,
> Given the geometry I was describing you couldn't
allow the silver pieces to completely erode away.
You'd have water leaking out the holes the wires come
through, not to mention the wire and/or brass washer
would also start eroding and contaminating the water
with copper, zinc, nickel, etc... So I figure the
coins (or bars) would be replaced when they got thin
enough they would start exposing stuff. They would
have to disassemble the cell and inspect the
electrodes a few times during the first month of
operation to get familiar with how they erode with
use. <

That is why I am using clear tubing, so the condition
of the silver rods can be observed. They wouldn't leak
if they are sealed on the outside of the tube with
silicone. There is no real water pressure to speak of
here, the water flows through, but it shuts off at a
point before the device is implemented into the water
hose.

Several folks have mentioned already existing devices
that are used to sanitize water. They inject silver
into the water in the parts-per-billion range. I
called the one company someone mentioned to me -
www.thomsontec.com - and they deliver 30% silver/70%
copper in the ppb range (resulting in 1 - 3 ppb),
US$2300, with the silver/copper bar lasting about six
months.

I'm not trying to sanitize the mink ranchers water,
I'm trying to brew 160 gallons of CS per day. Since it
will be mixed with dry feed (producing a mash), it
seems to me that it needs to be 15-20 ppm at least to
really protect the animals from the legion of diseases
they are fighting.

Terry Chamberlin

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CS>CS device

[Terry Chamberlin]

Kirsteen said,
>I'd really like to be able to make my own CS. However
i'm just not up to making my own generator - very
technologically challenged. i was wondering if people
thought this silver maker would be any use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ionic-Colloidal-Silver-Maker...<

First off, this device is British, and runs on 230
volts. Secondly, at the current bid of 94 pounds, it
would be very expensive in US or Canadian dollars
(don't know which you are), plus the shipping from
England. No, you don't want this device.

Any number of folks on this list would be happy to
assemble a basic battery unit for you for considerably
less than the above unit. As Dan mentioned, do you
want a unit that will shut itself off when finished?
That will increase the cost some. What quantity of CS
do you want to brew per batch? For folks fighting
cancer or MS, etc., only being able to brew 8 to 16 oz
per batch can make it a hassle. Some folks here sell a
device that brews in the gallons-per-batch level (my
own, for example!). That will also increase the price
some. As you will see soon, there are several good
vendors on this list who sell quality devices. Keep
reading the posts here, you will see them. When you
see something that meets your needs, contact that
vendor directly.

Terry Chamberlin
Metabolic Solutions Institute
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RE: CS>Question - Mink Rach

[craehow...@juno.com]

Thanks for the update.  Have we determined if the water recycles; or is it 
consistently new water being supplied?  
 
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Re: CS>Question - Mink Rach

[Smitty]

Hi Connie:

I'll forward you some of the past emails concerning the
Mink Ranch in another email.

Smitty




On 11/17/06, craehow...@juno.com  wrote:



I have found the post regarding the Mink Ranch very interesting and have not
found the original post indicating the initial problem (if there ever was
one).  Does anyone have that post or could someone update me.  I think it is
great the way everyone has been providing help.



thanks

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RE: CS>Question - Mink Rach

[Dan Nave]

see original post attached below:



From: craehow...@juno.com [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Question - Mink Rach



I have found the post regarding the Mink Ranch very interesting and have
not found the original post indicating the initial problem (if there
ever was one).  Does anyone have that post or could someone update me.
I think it is great the way everyone has been providing help.

thanks 

connie 

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-Original Message-

From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca 
] 

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:32 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: CS>Flow-through CS

I have a friend who has a mink ranch, and his whole operation is being
threatened by what he calls a Rotovirus. He contacted me this morning to
inquire if I thought silver would be effective in protecting his
animals. We spent some time discussing how to administer CS to his
minks. The water his animals drink is from a constantly flowing source
of water (like drinking from a stream), so it wouldn't be practical to
try to put CS into that water. He prepares what is essentially a food
mash each day using about 160 gallons (500-600 pounds) of water, which
flows from a tank and is mixed with the dry food. This would be the
opportunity to add CS.

Some time ago someone on the list described a way they had come up with
for injecting silver into water as it flowed. I think the application
was maybe to treat large quantities of water as it flowed into a
swimming pool. Could the list-member who discussed this method please
contact me regarding how it was done? How can this friend of mine set up
a way to brew CS as it flows into the holding tank? 

I am eager to hear any ideas anyone may have on how to do something like
this. RSVP

Terry Chamberlin

 

Re: CS>Colloidal silver maker.

[Richard]

Kirsteen,  in my modest opinion the best  unit for personal use can  
be found at www.silverpuppy.com. It is reasonable - especially if you  
are paying in Sterling- and completely idiot proof - good luck - Richard

On 17/11/2006, at 16:15, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On 11/17/06, Dan Nave  wrote:
Dear Kirsteen,

I would avoid this particular unit like the plague.

What is it that he is selling?

I couldn't find any info about the silver maker at that link so you  
may get very little for your money.  There are many "colloidal  
silver" makers from very basic to very sophisticated.  Some people  
sell nothing more than a couple of wires and a battery for the  
price of an automated system.


What are your requirements and in what area of the globe do you  
live?   Do you want a simple unit you have to monitor or one that  
you turn on and come back to when it is done?  Battery operated vs  
220 VAC vs 115 VAC? One liter a day vs one liter a month usage etc.



Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it  I'm in the UK, basically  
want something idiot proof for personal use & family use so a litre  
or two a month would probably be fine.


Any ideas.

thanks
Kirsteen



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Re: CS>Colloidal silver maker.

[Marshall Dudley]

Are you in England?  They are shipping from England.  They give very few 
technical details, but it does not appear to be anywhere near state of 
the art.


1. There appears to be no stirring mechanism
2. They do not appear to use constant current, but constant voltage instead
3. Their current appears too high for the electrode size
4. They do not appear to use voltage reversal
5. They do not appear to use distilled water (and thus would not 
actually be producing CS most likely at all)
6. They use time to determin when it is ready, and ineffective and 
unreliable way since it can vary significantly with water quality


I would use one of the units our members have had good success with, 
either a silvergen or a silver puppy unit.


Marshall

Kirsteen Wright wrote:
I'd really like to be able to make my own CS. However i'm just not up 
to making my own generator - very technologically challenged. i was 
wondering if people thought this silver maker would be any use. 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ionic-Colloidal-Silver-Maker-KILLS-650-VIRUSES_W0QQitemZ260048724161QQihZ016QQcategoryZ37822QQcmdZViewItem
 
I'd really appreciate any comments. Feel free to email me privately if 
you prefer. Basically how do i know it's working?
 
Many thanks
 
Kirsteen

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RE: CS>Colloidal silver maker.

[Dan Nave]

Ok, so I'm an idiot...
 
I found the description of the unit.  The specs are a bit vague, but at
12V output @15ma it is hard to see how they are going to get that.
Silver weight is 6.6 grams.  No mention of stirring.  Mentions timing to
get higher concentrations.  May not have current regulation.
 
It *may* be OK, but without more specifics I wouldn't buy it.  Probably
not as good as a SilverPuppy or a Silvergen. Probably overpriced.  Do
they sell a SilverPuppy or a Silvergen operating at 220VAC?
 
Dan



From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal silver maker.


Dear Kirsteen,
 
I would avoid this particular unit like the plague.  
 
What is it that he is selling?
 
I couldn't find any info about the silver maker at that link so you may
get very little for your money.  There are many "colloidal silver"
makers from very basic to very sophisticated.  Some people sell nothing
more than a couple of wires and a battery for the price of an automated
system.
 
What are your requirements and in what area of the globe do you live?
Do you want a simple unit you have to monitor or one that you turn on
and come back to when it is done?  Battery operated vs 220 VAC vs 115
VAC? One liter a day vs one liter a month usage etc.
 
Dan



From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal silver maker.


I'd really like to be able to make my own CS. However i'm just not up to
making my own generator - very technologically challenged. i was
wondering if people thought this silver maker would be any use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ionic-Colloidal-Silver-Maker-KILLS-650-VIRUSES_W0Q
QitemZ260048724161QQihZ016QQcategoryZ37822QQcmdZViewItem
 
I'd really appreciate any comments. Feel free to email me privately if
you prefer. Basically how do i know it's working?
 
Many thanks
 
Kirsteen
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CS>Question - Mink Rach

[craehow...@juno.com]

I have found the post regarding the Mink Ranch very interesting and have not 
found the original post indicating the initial problem (if there ever was one). 
 Does anyone have that post or could someone update me.  I think it is great 
the way everyone has been providing help.
 
thanks 
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Re: CS>Colloidal silver maker.

[Kirsteen Wright]

On 11/17/06, Dan Nave  wrote:


 Dear Kirsteen,

I would avoid this particular unit like the plague.

What is it that he is selling?

I couldn't find any info about the silver maker at that link so you may
get very little for your money.  There are many "colloidal silver" makers
from very basic to very sophisticated.  Some people sell nothing more than a
couple of wires and a battery for the price of an automated system.

What are your requirements and in what area of the globe do you live?   Do
you want a simple unit you have to monitor or one that you turn on and come
back to when it is done?  Battery operated vs 220 VAC vs 115 VAC? One liter
a day vs one liter a month usage etc.




Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it  I'm in the UK, basically want
something idiot proof for personal use & family use so a litre or two a
month would probably be fine.

Any ideas.

thanks
Kirsteen



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Re: CS>Mink ranch

[Marshall Dudley]

Have you considered using copper tubing as the cathode and silver wire 
strung down the middle as the anode?


Marshall

Terry Chamberlin wrote:

Today I bought 2 feet of 3/4" clear plastic tubing. It
is my idea to run 18" of silver wire (maybe 2 or 3
strands twisted together for more silver and to make
the strands stiffer), plus the same of stainless steel
wire inside the tubing. They will run parallel to each
other with almost 3/4" of space between them. At the
beginning end of the wires, they will turn and go out
through holes in the tubing wall on opposite sides. By
connecting a negative and positive power source to the
ends protruding out the tubing wall, I will
essentially have the wires acting like electrodes such
as hang down into a jar of water. In this case, the
water will be flowing through the tube between the
wires. Since the water flow will be about 10 gallons
per minute, it seemed like 110VDC wouldn’t be too
high.

I’ll report back.

Terry Chamberlin


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RE: CS>Colloidal silver maker.

[Dan Nave]

Dear Kirsteen,
 
I would avoid this particular unit like the plague.  
 
What is it that he is selling?
 
I couldn't find any info about the silver maker at that link so you may
get very little for your money.  There are many "colloidal silver"
makers from very basic to very sophisticated.  Some people sell nothing
more than a couple of wires and a battery for the price of an automated
system.
 
What are your requirements and in what area of the globe do you live?
Do you want a simple unit you have to monitor or one that you turn on
and come back to when it is done?  Battery operated vs 220 VAC vs 115
VAC? One liter a day vs one liter a month usage etc.
 
Dan



From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:37 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal silver maker.


I'd really like to be able to make my own CS. However i'm just not up to
making my own generator - very technologically challenged. i was
wondering if people thought this silver maker would be any use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ionic-Colloidal-Silver-Maker-KILLS-650-VIRUSES_W0Q
QitemZ260048724161QQihZ016QQcategoryZ37822QQcmdZViewItem
 
I'd really appreciate any comments. Feel free to email me privately if
you prefer. Basically how do i know it's working?
 
Many thanks
 
Kirsteen
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Re: CS>Flow-through CS

[Ode Coyote]

At 04:39 PM 11/16/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Over the entire world the ship board fresh water systems have bulk silver 
in them just to control growth of undesired contaminants.



Well, no.  What they have are in line silver ion generators, some of which 
use resin ion exchange technology as in NSA silver water filters and 
humidifier wicks and filters by AGion... and some of which use the exact 
same technology that CS makers use.


ode




Simply put a couple of silver ingots or coins in the flowing water source 
and the entire system will be protected.
One way to do this would be to install an in-expensive inline replaceable 
fabric filter, remove the filter and put the silver in place. Wah Lah...


Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti

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CS>Vibroacoustic Therapy

[tom chick]

Hi Mike, Do a Google search on Vibroacoustic Therapy. Lots of info. Other 
devices are mentioned. Tom


-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>sinusitis

The web site doesn't give a lot of details about it, but it's not 
exhorbitantly expensive compared to some things out there.

Some sort of sonic transducer swept from low to ultrasonic frequencies. 
Also might be some pulsed IR LED features on some of their models.

http://www.vitafon.info/
http://www.vitafon.net/

Wish I had one tonight. One of my sinuses is killing me. 

Be well,

Mike D.

> > Look into this thing. VITAFON  It uses vibrations to
> help a lot of health
> problems.Sinus,arthritis,postrate,& a lot of other
> problems.It was developed in Russia.
> I stumbled across it last night looking for what
> causes
> your hands to fall a sleep for no reason.Its my sister
> inlaw thats having the problem.She has Asthma pretty
> bad & has to take a lot of steroids & other stuff.

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CS>Colloidal silver maker.

[Kirsteen Wright]

I'd really like to be able to make my own CS. However i'm just not up to
making my own generator - very technologically challenged. i was wondering
if people thought this silver maker would be any use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ionic-Colloidal-Silver-Maker-KILLS-650-VIRUSES_W0QQitemZ260048724161QQihZ016QQcategoryZ37822QQcmdZViewItem

I'd really appreciate any comments. Feel free to email me privately if you
prefer. Basically how do i know it's working?

Many thanks

Kirsteen
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RE: CS>Mink rancher

[Carlos P�rez]

Friends,

In this interesting creativeness developed around the Mink ranch subject, I 
might have missed something, but I do not recall anyone saying anything 
about the quality of the water being used for making EIS in the flow-through 
system.


Is it tap water? I remember how much emphasis has been placed on the great 
importance of using only steam distilled water of the best quality available 
in order to produce adequate EIS for human consumption. Or is it that in 
mink and other animals the biological laws work differently?


Regards to all.

Carlos


From: "Dan Nave" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: RE: CS>Mink rancher
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:30:26 -0600

http://www.nwtmintbullion.com/silver_bars_100.php

Oops, they are 100 and 100 OUNCE bars...

Here's a 10 ounce bar:

http://www.nwtmint.com/store/index.php?mod=product&id_prd=1367

and

http://www.nwtmint.com/store/index.php?pageNum_rsMan=2&totalRows_rsMan=4
2&mod=manufacturer&id_man=29

Dan

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From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Mink rancher

Dear Dan,

You write:
> I noticed you added a factor for electrode waste.  I don't think that
> is really necessary since with that kind of water flow all silver
> should go into the water, and since it is to be mixed with "food" who
> knows what sort of chemistry it will have - ions or particles, who
> cares?...  So the total silver is what I was concentrating on.

Given the geometry I was describing you couldn't allow the silver pieces
to completely erode away. You'd have water leaking out the holes the
wires come through, not to mention the wire and/or brass washer would
also start eroding and contaminating the water with copper, zinc,
nickel, etc... So I figure the coins (or bars) would be replaced when
they got thin enough they would start exposing stuff.

They would have to disassemble the cell and inspect the electrodes a few
times during the first month of operation to get familiar with how they
erode with use.

> It looks like you can buy 100 and 1000 gram ingots of silver.  Just
> pound them out or have a jeweler flatten them through some sort of
> roller press.

That sounds interesting. Where did you see those?

> Yes, I was on the low end of the silver cost estimate.  Cheap at even
> twice the price.



Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CS>sinusitis

[Mark S. Siepak]

Not the SONIC TRANSDUCER!

"My feet, I can't move my feet! My vheels, my gott, I can't move mine
vheels! It's as if we're stuck to the floor!"

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