Re: CS>

[Sam L.]

Hi Jan
Hers a few sites that are good.

http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html

http://www.silvermedicine.org/

http://silver-lightning.com/research.html

Thanks for the info on leaky gut

Sam L.

On 12/16/06, havaban...@aol.com  wrote:


  In a message dated 12/15/2006 10:41:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes:

> Look into this stuff. Its a probiotic.Somebody on
> one
> of the CUREZONE forums was bragging about it getting
> his digestive system in line.On the website they
> also
> talk about it helping sinus problems.I'm going to
> try
> it after i get thru the holidays.

 I'm trying to catch on to the talk about silver but think I need to find
a real basic website or book about it so that I can understand what's being
said here. While I don't understand silver, I do know about probiotics. All
of a sudden I couldn't eat several foods without terrible itching and my
doctor at the time was one who was up on alternative medicine. She found a
lab that would test to see if I had leaky gut and the results came back that
I did. She said she didn't know very much about it and to get on the web and
do my homework, so that's what I did. I joined different groups and most of
the people on them were peddling their own products, but in between that I
learned a lot over the course of 4 years.
Here's a free and simple test you can do that will check your gut. First
thing in the morning before you do anything or put anything in your mouth,
spit into a clear glass of water. Let it sit and watch to see what it does.
If you get legs coming down from it, you could greatly benefit from a
probiotic. I took up to 10 billion a day which was 5 pills. You also have to
stop feeding the problem with sugars and food that turn into sugar in your
body. There are several good probiotics on the market but the only name I
can remember at the moment is NOW. It's rated in the top 5 and it's
something like 6.00 in a health food store. Even my grocery chain carries
it and it's in the refrigerator section.
You can find a lot of fancy websites with probiotics for sale and they all
claim to be the best and are amazingly expensive. Those were the ones that
the people on the lists I joined had no success with so I never tried them.
Leaky gut is basically an overgrowth of yeast in the gut so don't add any
yeast to your diet and no sugars. Remember that antibiotics kill both good
and bad bacteria and if you take them you'll probably need to take the
probiotics again. I'm to the point where I'm just staying on them since they
can't hurt you. I stopped taking the NOW probiotic because it has a milk
form in it and I'm too lazy to get up and go look at the other brand that
I'm taking. It's a bit more expensive at 10.00 a bottle, but that's for
100 pills. They don't work as well as the other did but you do what you can.
Oh..and I have sinus problems and probiotics didn't help that. They may help
others, but didn't work for me, but that wasn't my reason for taking them
and I hadn't heard claims that they could help your sinuses until I read
your email.
Can someone lead me to a basic beginner's crash course on silver so I can
catch up to you guys?
Jan Smith
Bandit, Lightning, and Ellie 
www.jashavanese.com
Contributing Editor/Hotline Staff
Havanese Rescue Quilt Member
Red River Havanese Club Member
Blue Ridge Havanese Club Member
Art For HEART
http://www171.pair.com/poodle/artforheart.html

Peace starts with a smile

CS>

[HavABandit]

All that typing and it said my mail didn't go through. I'll try again and  
I'm sorry if it repeats.
   
 
 
In a message dated 12/15/2006 10:41:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes:

>  Look into this stuff. Its a probiotic.Somebody on
> one
> of the  CUREZONE forums was bragging about it getting
> his digestive system in  line.On the website they
> also
> talk about it helping sinus  problems.I'm going to
> try
> it after i get thru the holidays.  



I'm trying to catch on to the talk about  silver but think I need to find a 
real basic website or book about it so that I  can understand what's being said 
here. While I don't understand silver, I do  know about probiotics. All of a 
sudden I couldn't eat several foods without  terrible itching and my doctor at 
the time was one who was up on alternative  medicine. She found a lab that 
would test to see if I had leaky gut and the  results came back that I did. She 
said she didn't know very much about it and to  get on the web and do my 
homework, so that's what I did. I joined different  groups and most of the 
people 
on them were peddling their own products, but in  between that I learned a lot 
over the course of 4 years. 
Here's a free and simple test you can do  that will check your gut. First 
thing in the morning before you do anything or  put anything in your mouth, 
spit 
into a clear glass of water. Let it sit and  watch to see what it does. If you 
get legs coming down from it, you could  greatly benefit from a probiotic. I 
took up to 10 billion a day which was 5  pills. You also have to stop feeding 
the problem with sugars and food that turn  into sugar in your body. There are 
several good probiotics on the market but the  only name I can remember at 
the moment is NOW. It's rated in the top 5 and it's  something like 6.00 in a 
health food store. Even my grocery chain carries it and  it's in the 
refrigerator section. 
You can find a lot of fancy websites with  probiotics for sale and they all 
claim to be the best and are amazingly  expensive. Those were the ones that the 
people on the lists I joined had no  success with so I never tried them. 
Leaky gut is basically an overgrowth of  yeast in the gut so don't add any 
yeast to your diet and no sugars.  Remember that antibiotics kill both good and 
bad bacteria and if you take them  you'll probably need to take the probiotics 
again. I'm to the point where I'm  just staying on them since they can't hurt 
you. I stopped taking the NOW  probiotic because it has a milk form in it and 
I'm too lazy to get up and go  look at the other brand that I'm taking. It's 
a bit more expensive at 10.00 a  bottle, but that's for 100 pills. They don't 
work as well as the other  did but you do what you can. Oh..and I have sinus 
problems and probiotics  didn't help that. They may help others, but didn't 
work for me, but that wasn't  my reason for taking them and I hadn't heard 
claims 
that they could help your  sinuses until I read your email.
Can someone lead me to a basic  beginner's crash course on silver so I can 
catch up to you  guys?

 
Jan Smith
_Bandit, Lightning,  and Ellie_ (http://jashavanese.com/) 
www.jashavanese.com 
Contributing  Editor/Hotline Staff
Havanese Rescue Quilt Member
Red  River Havanese Club Member
Blue Ridge Havanese Club Member
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(http://www171.pair.com/poodle/artforheart.html) 

Peace starts with a smile

CS>

[HavABandit]

 
 
In a message dated 12/15/2006 10:41:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes:

>  Look into this stuff. Its a probiotic.Somebody on
> one
> of the  CUREZONE forums was bragging about it getting
> his digestive system in  line.On the website they
> also
> talk about it helping sinus  problems.I'm going to
> try
> it after i get thru the holidays.  



I'm trying to catch on to the talk about  silver but think I need to find a 
real basic website or book about it so that I  can understand what's being said 
here. While I don't understand silver, I do  know about probiotics. All of a 
sudden I couldn't eat several foods without  terrible itching and my doctor at 
the time was one who was up on alternative  medicine. She found a lab that 
would test to see if I had leaky gut and the  results came back that I did. She 
said she didn't know very much about it and to  get on the web and do my 
homework, so that's what I did. I joined different  groups and most of the 
people 
on them were peddling their own products, but in  between that I learned a lot 
over the course of 4 years. 
Here's a free and simple test you can do  that will check your gut. First 
thing in the morning before you do anything or  put anything in your mouth, 
spit 
into a clear glass of water. Let it sit and  watch to see what it does. If you 
get legs coming down from it, you could  greatly benefit from a probiotic. I 
took up to 10 billion a day which was 5  pills. You also have to stop feeding 
the problem with sugars and food that turn  into sugar in your body. There are 
several good probiotics on the market but the  only name I can remember at 
the moment is NOW. It's rated in the top 5 and it's  something like 6.00 in a 
health food store. Even my grocery chain carries it and  it's in the 
refrigerator section. 
You can find a lot of fancy websites with  probiotics for sale and they all 
claim to be the best and are amazingly  expensive. Those were the ones that the 
people on the lists I joined had no  success with so I never tried them. 
Leaky gut is basically an overgrowth of  yeast in the gut so don't add any 
yeast to your diet and no sugars.  Remember that antibiotics kill both good and 
bad bacteria and if you take them  you'll probably need to take the probiotics 
again. I'm to the point where I'm  just staying on them since they can't hurt 
you. I stopped taking the NOW  probiotic because it has a milk form in it and 
I'm too lazy to get up and go  look at the other brand that I'm taking. It's 
a bit more expensive at 10.00 a  bottle, but that's for 100 pills. They don't 
work as well as the other  did but you do what you can. Oh..and I have sinus 
problems and probiotics  didn't help that. They may help others, but didn't 
work for me, but that wasn't  my reason for taking them and I hadn't heard 
claims 
that they could help your  sinuses until I read your email.
Can someone lead me to a basic  beginner's crash course on silver so I can 
catch up to you guys?
Jan Smith
_Bandit, Lightning,  and Ellie_ (http://jashavanese.com/) 
www.jashavanese.com 
Contributing  Editor/Hotline Staff
Havanese Rescue Quilt Member
Red  River Havanese Club Member
Blue Ridge Havanese Club Member
Art  For HEART
_http://www171.pair.com/poodle/artforheart.html_ 
(http://www171.pair.com/poodle/artforheart.html) 

Peace starts with a smile

CS>asap silver and invive to ode

[zeb caffe]

Thanks for answering my question Ode.
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Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes

[Deborah Gerard]

I agree Mike the majority of the whole health machine would not agree of much 
of anything we discuss and use here...deb

"M. G. Devour"  wrote:  Dear Gertrude,

You wrote:
> ... floatersthey don' t go away..with acupuncture,impossible. 

I've come a *very* long way in the last decade, and one of the things 
I've come to accept is that there are some unlikely sounding things 
that turn out to be true in alternative medicine. 

I don't know specifically about accupuncture and various eye problems, 
like floaters, but I'm a *LOT* less willing to use the word 
"impossible" now than a few years ago. 

> I have floaters too and the doctor could not take them away. 

There are many folks here and in other alternative health forums I've 
visted who've proved the doctors wrong many times. We don't ignore 
them, but we evaluate what they say on an even basis with what we learn 
from our own work and that of other people we come to trust.

We've learned that doctors are forced to ignore many worthwhile ideas, 
leaving it up to us to research and evaluate them for ourselves.

There have been several suggestions offered earlier in this thread that 
sound promising. When I hear a success story from somebody like Chuck, 
who's been in the group for years, who's *not* trying to sell anything, 
and has given other reliable information in the past, I'm going to 
listen very carefully.

Each of us have to define our personal standards of what to believe. 
When I hear an idea from people I know who don't have a commercial 
interest, if it is reasonably easy/cheap/simple to test, and my 
experience or research makes me reasonably confident that it's safe... 
I will try new things, even when they seem a little "unlikely" by 
conventional standards. 

That's what works for me. 

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes

[M. G. Devour]

Dear Gertrude,

You wrote:
> ... floatersthey don' t go away..with acupuncture,impossible. 

I've come a *very* long way in the last decade, and one of the things 
I've come to accept is that there are some unlikely sounding things 
that turn out to be true in alternative medicine. 

I don't know specifically about accupuncture and various eye problems, 
like floaters, but I'm a *LOT* less willing to use the word 
"impossible" now than a few years ago. 

>  I have floaters too and the doctor could not take them away. 

There are many folks here and in other alternative health forums I've 
visted who've proved the doctors wrong many times. We don't ignore 
them, but we evaluate what they say on an even basis with what we learn 
from our own work and that of other people we come to trust.

We've learned that doctors are forced to ignore many worthwhile ideas, 
leaving it up to us to research and evaluate them for ourselves.

There have been several suggestions offered earlier in this thread that 
sound promising. When I hear a success story from somebody like Chuck, 
who's been in the group for years, who's *not* trying to sell anything, 
and has given other reliable information in the past, I'm going to 
listen very carefully.

Each of us have to define our personal standards of what to believe. 
When I hear an idea from people I know who don't have a commercial 
interest, if it is reasonably easy/cheap/simple to test, and my 
experience or research makes me reasonably confident that it's safe... 
I will try new things, even when they seem a little "unlikely" by 
conventional standards. 

That's what works for me. 

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes

[Gertrude]

www.drrath.com see the mail before.

- Original Message - 
From: "Vigilius Haufniensis" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes


>I think the floaters in the eye  are bloodspotsthey stay in your 
>eye.Older people  often  have suchs floatersthey don' t go away..with 
>acupuncture,impossible.



heheheh.

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Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

I think the floaters in the eye  are bloodspotsthey stay in your 
eye.Older people  often  have suchs floatersthey don' t go away..with 
acupuncture,impossible.



heheheh. 



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Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes

[Gertrude]

I think the floaters in the eye  are bloodspotsthey stay in your 
eye.Older people  often  have suchs floatersthey don' t go away..with 
acupuncture,impossible.

I have floaters too and the doctor could not take them away.
I ' ve got them from the high bloodpressure..hypertention...(((STRESS))
Now I take magnesium and calcium...see  www.dr.rath.com
At the moment my bloodpressure is good ,I take Relavit and Vitacor (not 
chemical)maybe in your country other names?


Trudy (66)

- Original Message - 
From: "Vigilius Haufniensis" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes



Vigilus,>
I do appreciate your information to my questions, and I don't doubt that
herbal treatment has good results. After all, alternative therapy is
concerned with natural substances instead of man-made ones. I have
difficulty seeing how acupuncture would affect floaters which, to my
understanding, are detached pieces of some inner part of the eye.



VMANN:  activation of qi.




While the
electrochemical activity of herbal substances may cause these loose flaps 
to
dissolve, I cannot see how acupuncture would result in the same thing, 
but

that is obviously my problem, since I do not care to get involved in the
whole philosophy of ying versus yang. But thanks again for your 
information.

> Peter



VMANN:  not sure what youre talking about.
vigilius haufniensis

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Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

Vigilus,>
I do appreciate your information to my questions, and I don't doubt that
herbal treatment has good results. After all, alternative therapy is
concerned with natural substances instead of man-made ones. I have
difficulty seeing how acupuncture would affect floaters which, to my
understanding, are detached pieces of some inner part of the eye.



VMANN:  activation of qi.




While the
electrochemical activity of herbal substances may cause these loose flaps 
to

dissolve, I cannot see how acupuncture would result in the same thing, but
that is obviously my problem, since I do not care to get involved in the
whole philosophy of ying versus yang. But thanks again for your 
information.

> Peter



VMANN:  not sure what youre talking about.
vigilius haufniensis 



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CS>What's really in your milk

[Carl Deb Charter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7chp-EiVOs&mode=related&search=

Re: CS>question on my new batch

[bs clayton]

Thanks, Dan,

That is why I am using a potentiometer instead of a
diode, so I can play with the current. I am trying to
keep my messing around to just 1 or 2 variables at a
time, mostly one, so I can see what happens when I
change it. I started out using 4 9V batteries, with no
current limiter, and was unsatisfied with the results.
I had to watch it carefully, which was fine, but then
I decided it would be better to not have the yellow
stream of particles floating towards the electrode- to
keep it smaller, that is. It does look very cool,
though.

I appreciate your explanation.

Kathryn
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If you have current limiting, then the current cannot
go above this set 
value.

If you limit the current to a very small amount, it
will take longer to 
get a particular 
concentration (ppm) of CS for a particular size
container, compared to 
a batch made with a higher 
current limit setting.

The higher the current limit setting, the longer it
will take for the 
reaction to reach the point of 
the current limit.  This is the reason for increasing
the voltage, one 
reason for increasing the 
electrode area, and the reason for moving the
electrodes closer 
together.  Any one of these three 
changes will make the initial current higher and
therefore the cell 
will reach the current limit 
point faster.  After reaching the current limit point,
it will not be 
able to go any faster.

With very low currents like .2 and .3 ma, with the
types of electrodes 
and spacing we usually use, 
the current level is reached very quickly and there is
no way to 
decrease the amount of time it 
takes to make the CS without increasing the current
limit value.

The best way to make the process go faster is to do
any or all of these 
things but especially to 
increase the current limit setting.  You can also
spike the initial 
distilled water with previously 
made CS as well.

The electrode surface area determines how high a value
you might want 
to use for a current limit. 
Generally your stirring method will relate to how high
a current level 
you will want to use.  With 
really good stirring, you can use much higher
currents.

Any one of these methods involve certain tradeoffs.

Dan

bs clayton wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. I was making a quart, and the
> current varied a little bit between .2 and .3, it
> seems to me the average was .23mA- I can't find my
> production not

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Re: CS>question on my new batch

[bs clayton]

Dear Sam,

Thanks, that does help. Thermal stirring is the only
game in this house at the moment. I kinda like to do
things myself, and this is better than nothing. Maybe
it will work better with the electrodes spaced a
little farther apart. It is nice to get the info about
how many square inches I have submerged, I had not
figured that out yet.

Thanks for the offer of the Faraday calculator, but I
am not set up for excel, I am running a standard imac
with only the mac software for now. I can do the calcs
fine, though, it is a simple formula when the current
stays constant.
___
Hi Kathryn
The first batch was OK but you didn't run it long
enough. I would estimate 24-30 hours using .23 mA per
quart with electrode spacing at 2 inches. Using 1 mA
would take 6-8 hours (estimated)

Thermal stirring doesn't work well with quart batches
unless its a short fat jar, the stirring action is
only good for 4-5 inches upward. Although It might
work well with low current and electrode spacing of 2
inches. Most of my experimentation has been done with
electrode spacing of 1.5 inches or less. 

10.5 inches of 10 gauge wire is about 3 square inches
of total electrode so your safe up to 1.5-2 mA of
current if you want to go that high but I suspect you
will need a better stirrer or a short glass like a
pint jar. You could bend your electrodes in a u shape
to fit the height or the jar if needed.

Tyndall effect shows particles, not ions. Most lvdc
generators produce 80-85% ions and the rest particles.
If your using a laser to show Tyndall effect you want
to see a smooth Tyndall effect, not a real grainy
looking one with big sparkles with them.  More
important though is if the cs stays clear after a day
or two. If it goes off color like yellow or gray-gold
then the particle size has increased. 

Hope that helps.
I have a nice Faraday calculator built into and excel
speadsheet if your interested. 

Sam L.






On 12/14/06, bs clayton  wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I was making a quart, and the
current varied a little bit between .2 and .3, it
seems to me the average was .23mA- I can't find my
production notes, just my calc, and that is what I
wrote in the formula. The electrodes are fine silver 
wire 10 gauge, 5& 1/4 inches submerged, spacing is 2
inches. I am using a Frito bean dip can to hold the
light  similar to what you described.

I think what I'm going to do next is use half of what
I made before, and fill it up with distilled water,
then crank it up to 1mA, see if it goes faster this
time- and what I end up with ppm-wise.

I read some discussion of particle size being related
to Tyndall effect, and when I started the Tyndall was 
what I used to tell if it was ok. Now maybe that means
the particles are larger? Is there a consensus about
whether Tyndall is important in making this stuff? I
was trying to keep the particle size down, and the 
other stuff to a minmum (silver oxides and like that).

Kathryn

Hi Kathryn.
I dont know if this got posted to the list or not so I
will repost. 

Need more info. What size batch are we taking about?
What was the current .2-,3 or ,275 mA? What are you
using for Electrodes and what size. Whats the spacing
on the electrodes.
At .275 mA I would run the batch 24 hours per quart 
with electrode spacing of 1.5 inch's using a total of
12 inch's of 12 gauge wire (6 inch's per electrode)..

If you take a peanut can , drill a one inch hole in
the top center and a one inch hole in the side, put 
the light bulb in the hole in the side and the cs on
top, this will work good on a short glass jar. The
thermal stirring wont go above 5 inch's or so.

The batches I make = 50 ppm or so on the Faraday
calculations but some of the silver is left on the 
electrodes or on the glass container. The cs stays
clear most of the time.

Faraday calculations work but their are many of other
factors involved to produce a good CS. Stirring is
very important as is current control per sq inch of 
electrodes. Ode from silver puppy sells a magnetic
stirrer of which has solved many of my problems,

I have used very low current before with somewhat good
results. I prefer to use 1 mA of current per 12 inch's

of 12 or 14 gauge wire or .5mA per square inch of
total wet electrodes.

Hope this helps.

Sam L.


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Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes

[Biago1]

Floater in the eyes have been permanently removed with the Model 304 of PMT  
Research for the past several years. This device is, in some ways, similar to  
the Hulda Clark "Zapper",
 
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