Re: CS>Alternative to butter

[CWFugitt]

At 06:53 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:


What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie


I never knew butter needed an alternative.   What is wrong with butter?

Nature never made a bad fat, only man makes bad fats.

I eat all the butter I want, which is not a ton per year of course.

We have to realize that our grand parents ate butter the year round.  How 
much?  All they wanted I feel sure.


All the butter I see today is  "sweet cream butter".I would pay $ 10.00 
per pound for some

"Sour Cream Butter" the way I used to make it in the 50's.

There is no comparison of the two.The sweet cream butter does not even 
taste like butter to me.


If you think it is bad, don't eat butter or the alternative, whatever that 
is.  


The real question is  are you eating enough FAT, 
period.  Balance the Omega 3 and Omega 6 and eat all the fat you 
want.   Nutritionist figured 100 years ago it is better for us than most carbs/


Plus, it is a great energy source and long lasting.   The heart needs fats 
for energy as does the rest of the body.


The very, very old ratio for foods was   40 % fat, 40 % protein and 20 % 
carbs which I still believe after many years, 50 or so at least.


I think most people don't eat enough butter for it to even be a concern.  I 
know I don't,  about 1/2 pound every 6 months, if that much.   Still, I eat 
all I want when I want it.


I cook redfish and talipia in butter and sear the slivered almonds also.
Also use a touch when making french toast.One loaf of bread last about 
4 months and I throw half of it away.


I may have one or two lousy eating habits but bread and butter are not two 
of them.


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Re: CS>Alternative to butter

[cking001]

Butter, Olive oil, coconut oil- all virgin and unprocessed are best.
Read weston prices classic tome "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration"
as he visited primitives and remote peoples away from "civilized
foods" and what happens within a generation when they are introduced
to civilized food.
It'll shake you up!

Chuck
I know a guy who had his doctor say "take some weight off, go to a
health club."
 This man lost 20 pounds in one week!
 The machine tore his leg off!

On 3/18/2007 8:32:32 PM, G & K Murray (kg...@sasktel.net) wrote:
> In my opinion there is no alternative to butter.  If it is man made, it
> is no good.  Just use butter with respect.
> 
> Deborah Gerard wrote:
> 
> > What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie


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Re: CS>Alternative to butter

[Clayton Family]

I would like to humbly remind you about coconut oil- it is traditional 
in many diets where dairy animals were not in use. Also avocados are 
considered an excellent food to be given to very young children.



On Mar 18, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Karen Eck wrote:
 When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the 
world, he found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He did 
not find any isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) The 
groups he studied particularly valued the deep yellow butter produced 
by cows feeding on rapidly growing green grass. Their natural 
intuition told them that its life-giving qualities were especially 
beneficial for children and expectant mothers.


 



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Re: CS>Alternative to butter

[Karen Eck]

At 06:16 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:  Debbie,  please go to 
www.mercola.com  and do a search on 
cholesterol Read  and then stop worrying.zoe


Thanks for all the great info...I was concerned about my cholestral 
levels being high and thought it might be because I use butter 
...thanks again ...debbie


How old are you? How high is your cholesterol? In older women higher 
cholesterol levels are very protective -- to a point.

I found that info at http://www.mercola.com, like Zoe says.

Heart disease is due to the intake of too much 
sugar/starch/carbohydrate. We've been lied to - big time!


The Great Cholesterol Con  (book) by Anthony Colpo
http://www.thegreatcholesterolcon.com/  [quote]
The shocking, sordid tale of the cholesterol scam - a mind-boggling 
saga of ignorance, corruption, deceit and greed - is a subject worthy 
of an entire book! So that's exactly what I've done; after years of 
research, I've finally put together The Great Cholesterol Con: Why 
Everything You've Been Told About Cholesterol, Diet and Heart Disease 
is Wrong!
   * A single disgruntled researcher, who conducted some of the 
sloppiest and most shamelessly biased research ever seen, was largely 
responsible for launching the anti-animal fat/anti-cholesterol mania 
as we know it today!
   * The rise in coronary heart disease that occurred during the 
twentieth century had nothing whatsoever to do with saturated fat intake!
   * Study after study has shown that people with so-called 
'healthy' low cholesterol levels actually live shorter lives!
   * Upon closer scrutiny, the very studies that have formed the 
cornerstone of the anti-cholesterol argument actually show that 
cholesterol and saturated fat are not harmful!
   * Numerous populations consuming high saturated fat diets have 
been documented to enjoy very low rates of heart disease!
   * Over fifty years' worth of clinical dietary intervention trials 
have completely failed to show any mortality benefit among those 
following saturated fat-restricted diets - in fact, several of these 
studies showed higher death rates among those assigned to diets low 
in saturated fats!
   * Many dietary recommendations made by 'experts' to reduce heart 
disease have actually been shown in animal and human studies to 
increase heart disease, cancer, diabetes and obesity!
   * The primary force behind the anti-cholesterol paradigm is not 
public health, but greed! Drug companies, food companies, the medical 
profession, and health organizations all make billions in dollars of 
profit from the cholesterol theory!


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Re[2]: CS>Alternative to butter

[zoe W]

  Debbie,  please go to www.mercola.com  and do a search on cholesterol     Read  and then stop worrying.
zoe
  
Sunday, March 18, 2007, 7:07:26 PM, you wrote:
Thanks for all the great info...I was concerned about my cholestral levels being high and thought it might be because I use butter ...thanks again ...debbie

Karen Eck  wrote: 
At 04:53 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:

What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie

Butter

http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html
Does butter cause disease? On the contrary, butter protects us against many diseases.  ... Butter is America's best and most easily absorbed source of vitamin A. 

The Wulzen or "anti-stiffness" factor is a nutrient unique to butter. Dutch researcher Wulzen found that it protects against calcification of the joints--degenerative arthritis--as well as hardening of the arteries, cataracts and calcification of the pineal gland. Unfortunately this vital substance is destroyed during pasteurization. 

www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/testimony/proposedwicrevisions.doc 
The Price Factor or Activator X: Discovered by Dr. Price, Activator X is a powerful catalyst which, like vitamins A and D, helps the body absorb and utilize minerals. It is found in organ meats from grazing animals and some sea food. Butter can be an especially rich source of Activator X when it comes from cows eating rapidly growing grass in the spring and fall seasons. It disappears in cows fed cottonseed meal or high protein soy-based feeds.
[1] Fortunately, Activator X is not destroyed by pasteurization. 

http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/chronicdisease.html
The nutrient Price called "Activator X," most richly concentrated in milk fat from cows grazing on rapidly growing pasture, may be the most important activator of all. Price was able to reverse tooth decay and cure many diseases using "X-Factor" butter oil concentrate in conjunction with high-vitamin cod liver oil. 

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#butter
Nutrients in Butter
The Diet Dictocrats have succeeded in convincing Americans that butter is dangerous, when in fact it is a valued component of many traditional diets and a source of the following nutrients: Fat-Soluble Vitamins: These include true vitamin A or retinol, vitamin D, vitamin K and vitamin E as well as all their naturally occurring cofactors needed to obtain maximum effect. Butter is America's best source of these important nutrients. In fact, vitamin A is more easily absorbed and utilized from butter than from other sources.61 Fortunately, these fat-soluble vitamins are relatively stable and survive the pasteurization process. 

When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the world, he found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He did not find any isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) The groups he studied particularly valued the deep yellow butter produced by cows feeding on rapidly growing green grass. Their natural intuition told them that its life-giving qualities were especially beneficial for children and expectant mothers. 



  

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CS>RSD

[Pat]

This info was sent by my daughter:

For RSD (Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy/ Complex Regional Pain Syndrome),  I 
think it depends on what the current definition of RSD is as to if any viral 
cause can/will be found. In the past, they've allowed an RSD diagnosis with or 
without a trauma injury.

 Revised criteria has suggested if there is no injury, it's not RSD. That being 
said, there have been a whole lot of people being diagnosed with RSD after more 
common viral things like Fifth's Disease (parvovirus). Because a whole lot of 
viral infections are never diagnosed and just shrugged off as being overworked 
or tired, a whole lot of the cases eventually being diagnosed as RSD with no 
known cause may in fact be viral in origin.

 At any rate, real physical damage to the nerve has been noted in all forms of 
RSD. It certainly wouldn't hurt to take colloidal silver to perhaps attempt to 
keep it from spreading if there was any chance of a viral involvement, but 
unless it was able to trigger the nerves to heal themselves, I don't think it 
would do much to help. 


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Re: CS>Alternative to butter

[Deborah Gerard]

Thanks for all the great info...I was concerned about my cholestral levels 
being high and thought it might be because I use butter ...thanks again 
...debbie

Karen Eck  wrote:  At 04:53 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:
  What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie
Butter

http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html
Does butter cause disease? On the contrary, butter protects us against many 
diseases.  ... Butter is America's best and most easily absorbed source of 
vitamin A. 

The Wulzen or "anti-stiffness" factor is a nutrient unique to butter. Dutch 
researcher Wulzen found that it protects against calcification of the 
joints--degenerative arthritis--as well as hardening of the arteries, cataracts 
and calcification of the pineal gland. Unfortunately this vital substance is 
destroyed during pasteurization. 

www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/testimony/proposedwicrevisions.doc 
The Price Factor or Activator X: Discovered by Dr. Price, Activator X is a 
powerful catalyst which, like vitamins A and D, helps the body absorb and 
utilize minerals. It is found in organ meats from grazing animals and some sea 
food. Butter can be an especially rich source of Activator X when it comes from 
cows eating rapidly growing grass in the spring and fall seasons. It disappears 
in cows fed cottonseed meal or high protein soy-based feeds.[1] Fortunately, 
Activator X is not destroyed by pasteurization. 

http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/chronicdisease.html
The nutrient Price called "Activator X," most richly concentrated in milk fat 
from cows grazing on rapidly growing pasture, may be the most important 
activator of all. Price was able to reverse tooth decay and cure many diseases 
using "X-Factor" butter oil concentrate in conjunction with high-vitamin cod 
liver oil. 

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#butter
Nutrients in Butter
The Diet Dictocrats have succeeded in convincing Americans that butter is 
dangerous, when in fact it is a valued component of many traditional diets and 
a source of the following nutrients: Fat-Soluble Vitamins: These include true 
vitamin A or retinol, vitamin D, vitamin K and vitamin E as well as all their 
naturally occurring cofactors needed to obtain maximum effect. Butter is 
America's best source of these important nutrients. In fact, vitamin A is more 
easily absorbed and utilized from butter than from other sources.61 
Fortunately, these fat-soluble vitamins are relatively stable and survive the 
pasteurization process. 

When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the world, he 
found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He did not find any 
isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) The groups he studied 
particularly valued the deep yellow butter produced by cows feeding on rapidly 
growing green grass. Their natural intuition told them that its life-giving 
qualities were especially beneficial for children and expectant mothers. 



 
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Re: CS>Alternative to butter

[Karen Eck]

At 04:53 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:

What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie


Butter

http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html
Does butter cause disease? On the contrary, butter protects us 
against many diseases.  ... Butter is America's best and most easily 
absorbed source of vitamin A.


The Wulzen or "anti-stiffness" factor is a nutrient unique to butter. 
Dutch researcher Wulzen found that it protects against calcification 
of the joints--degenerative arthritis--as well as hardening of the 
arteries, cataracts and calcification of the pineal gland. 
Unfortunately this vital substance is destroyed during pasteurization.


www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/testimony/proposedwicrevisions.doc
The Price Factor or Activator X: Discovered by Dr. Price, Activator X 
is a powerful catalyst which, like vitamins A and D, helps the body 
absorb and utilize minerals. It is found in organ meats from grazing 
animals and some sea food. Butter can be an especially rich source of 
Activator X when it comes from cows eating rapidly growing grass in 
the spring and fall seasons. It disappears in cows fed cottonseed 
meal or high protein soy-based feeds.[1] Fortunately, Activator X is 
not destroyed by pasteurization.


http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/chronicdisease.html
The nutrient Price called "Activator X," most richly concentrated in 
milk fat from cows grazing on rapidly growing pasture, may be the 
most important activator of all. Price was able to reverse tooth 
decay and cure many diseases using "X-Factor" butter oil concentrate 
in conjunction with high-vitamin cod liver oil.


http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#butter
Nutrients in Butter
The Diet Dictocrats have succeeded in convincing Americans that 
butter is dangerous, when in fact it is a valued component of many 
traditional diets and a source of the following nutrients: 
Fat-Soluble Vitamins: These include true vitamin A or retinol, 
vitamin D, vitamin K and vitamin E as well as all their naturally 
occurring cofactors needed to obtain maximum effect. Butter is 
America's best source of these important nutrients. In fact, vitamin 
A is more easily absorbed and utilized from butter than from other 
sources.61 Fortunately, these fat-soluble vitamins are relatively 
stable and survive the pasteurization process.


When Dr. Weston Price studied isolated traditional peoples around the 
world, he found that butter was a staple in many native diets. (He 
did not find any isolated peoples who consumed polyunsaturated oils.) 
The groups he studied particularly valued the deep yellow butter 
produced by cows feeding on rapidly growing green grass. Their 
natural intuition told them that its life-giving qualities were 
especially beneficial for children and expectant mothers.

Re: CS>Alternative to butter

[G & K Murray]

In my opinion there is no alternative to butter.  If it is man made, it 
is no good.  Just use butter with respect.


Deborah Gerard wrote:

What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie 
 




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CS>Alternative to butter

[Deborah Gerard]

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Re: CS>Re: EIS, etc.

[Sandee George]

Sol - Thanks for this clarification
regards
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Re: CS>Re: EIS, etc.

[sol]

Nope, all properties of DMSO are not shared by MSM. DMSO can transport 
other substances into tissues, but MSM can't. Supposedly MSM can 
penetrate tissues for a very short distance but it can't take anything 
else with it. Therefore it will not take CS deep into tissues, for just 
one example.


According to one of the books I have Dr. Jacob's now uses far more MSM 
with his patients than DMSO, but the reason for that is patient 
compliance. MSM, though not as effective for many purposes, does not 
cause the body and breath odor that DMSO does, so MSM is much more 
likely to be used consistently.

sol

Sandee George wrote:
I am supposing that since MSM is the

crystallized next step,
if you will from DMSO that all the properties apply ? !! I have not



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CS>Herx

[Kurt Voitel]

Search by Jarisch-Herxheimer or Herxheimer.

Re: CS>Re: EIS, etc.

[Sandee George]

Thanks for this one Ronald - I am supposing that since MSM is the
crystallized next step,
if you will from DMSO that all the properties apply ? !! I have not
gone through all the
other addresses posted on the site as yet - however it is all very
interesting to me 
Regards
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CS>Re: EIS, etc.

[Ronald (& Susan) Hart]

All seriousness aside 
The dangers of using acronyms (letters to represent longer words/terms, 
etc.)

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html#DANGERS
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Re: CS>Some Questions

[Norine Twaddell]

I searched for "herk's reaction" using Dogpile.  I did not get any 
relevevant hits.


- Original Message - 
From: "Clayton Family" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Some Questions


I may have been the poster- and no, that is not what I meant.

If you are having alleriges when things are mostly frozen, it is likely
(according to my personal experience) that your reacting to the molds,
as they start going to town when the temps get up to 30 or so. I am in
Minn, so the middle of winter is fine- everything is frozen solid, but
in late winter when the temps climb and ice start melting, the mold
wakes up and starts causing me problems. Also, when the humidity is
above 40 %, the molds get active and can grow if there are any indoors.

I am taking CS, aka EIS (electrically Isolated Silver), to cure my
asthma, allergies, and mold sensitivities. It is working so far. I had
testing done at the allergist and I am much improved. I have heard
others say that too- one person posted that their dr told them they had
"outgrown" it, even though they were adults at the time. The
improvement was from the EIS.

I was so reactive that I could only take a dropperful orally at one
time, and if I took too much it would cause a herk's reaction. I had a
mold infection that is quite common in people with sinus problems, and
killing of the infection can cause a herk's reaction. You can look this
up, it is a common topic on candida sites.

I also use it as a nasal spray, and it really clears up my nose, and
does not cause the herks rxn for me.

About the cream, what would happen if you ground up a tablet and put it
in some cream you already have?

Kathryn

On Mar 17, 2007, at 9:45 PM, vwol...@aol.com wrote:


I thought I saw a post about CS aggravating Asthma?
Is this true?
Its allergy season and I need to be really watchful.
I do use the Albuterol Spray when I really really have to but would rather 
not if I have the choice.
I know its a frozen mess outside right now...I live in Northeastern 
Pabut I am still feeling the effects of Springtime Allergies.


Also, can anyone recomment a White Willow Bark cream?

I want to avoid taking Asprin but could use the pain relief and blood 
thinning benefits of Asprin.

A cream would be really good...bypassing the guts is a good thing for me.

If anyone knows of a good product and where to purchase it...would you 
mind sharing?


I did do a google search but didn't find anything. V.



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Re: CS>Some Questions

[Clayton Family]

I may have been the poster- and no, that is not what I meant.

If you are having alleriges when things are mostly frozen, it is likely 
(according to my personal experience) that your reacting to the molds, 
as they start going to town when the temps get up to 30 or so. I am in 
Minn, so the middle of winter is fine- everything is frozen solid, but 
in late winter when the temps climb and ice start melting, the mold 
wakes up and starts causing me problems. Also, when the humidity is 
above 40 %, the molds get active and can grow if there are any indoors.


I am taking CS, aka EIS (electrically Isolated Silver), to cure my 
asthma, allergies, and mold sensitivities. It is working so far. I had 
testing done at the allergist and I am much improved. I have heard 
others say that too- one person posted that their dr told them they had 
"outgrown" it, even though they were adults at the time. The 
improvement was from the EIS.


I was so reactive that I could only take a dropperful orally at one 
time, and if I took too much it would cause a herk's reaction. I had a 
mold infection that is quite common in people with sinus problems, and 
killing of the infection can cause a herk's reaction. You can look this 
up, it is a common topic on candida sites.


I also use it as a nasal spray, and it really clears up my nose, and 
does not cause the herks rxn for me.


About the cream, what would happen if you ground up a tablet and put it 
in some cream you already have?


Kathryn

On Mar 17, 2007, at 9:45 PM, vwol...@aol.com wrote:


I thought I saw a post about  CS aggravating Asthma?
Is this true?
Its allergy season and I need to be really watchful.
I do use the Albuterol Spray when I really really have to but would 
rather not if I have the choice.
I know its a frozen mess outside right now...I live in Northeastern 
Pabut I am still feeling the effects of Springtime Allergies.

 
Also, can anyone recomment a White Willow Bark cream?
 
I want to avoid taking Asprin but could use the pain relief and blood 
thinning benefits of Asprin.
A cream would be really good...bypassing the guts is a good thing for 
me.

 
If anyone knows of a good product and where to purchase it...would you 
mind sharing?

 
I did do a google search but didn't find anything.  V.



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RE: [RE]CS>Will CS work on Chagas:COMMENT

[M. G. Devour]

It worked here... 

Maybe you need to remove the capitalization...

   http://users.navi.net/~rsc/lamballa.htm

> The link Http://Users.navi.net/~rsc/lamballa.htm does not work.
> 
> 
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> Please advise
> 

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Re: CS>Some Questions/Jodi

[Vwolf21]

 
Hi Jodi...thanks for the reply.

EIS is the same as Colloidal Silver?

I should have thought of that ...I have a portable Nebulizer...I should try 
the CS instead of the Albuterol...thanks.

The Alburterol works just fine but it makes my BP climb.
Thanks againV.
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/17/2007 11:05:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jwmen...@cox.net writes:

Hi V -   My 10-year old son has a tracheostomy and we give him nebulized EIS, 
along with Albuterol 
every day.  I've read that EIS really helps asthma so I don't think that's 
true, but unfortunately I didn't
save the info so I can't point you to it.  I nebulized with EIS when I came 
down with pneumonia a few
years ago and it really helped me. Jodi 





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RE: [RE]CS>Will CS work on Chagas:COMMENT

[Kurt Voitel]

The link Http://Users.navi.net/~rsc/lamballa.htm does not work.

 

Please advise

 

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From: Brooks Bradley [mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [RE]CS>Will CS work on Chagas:COMMENT

 

It should be noted that T. Cruzi is a kineplastid (free-living flagellated
protozoa) kin of the African Trypanosome of Sleeping Sickness ill-fame.
These are MULTICELLED 
organisms, thus pose a serious challenge to the effects of Colloidal Silver.
Some researchers have reported success in using Colloidal Silver as a
controlling protocol for Plasmodium of Malaria. We have enjoyed No SUCH
SUCCESS.only the enzymatic-based protocol designed around 
Trypsin, chymotripsin, has demonstrated, Conclusively, to inervate the
plasmodium.especially in those cases of relapse. At least that has been
our experience, in our experimental researches. 
Persons interested in familiarizing themselves with the Enzyme protocol
(developed about 85 years ago by a British Army doctor), try
Http://Users.navi.net/~rsc/lamballa.htm 
Although not tested, we suspect that the same protocol could work on T.
Cruzi and the piroplasma of tick fever. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 

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>This just came from off topic list. 
>Another reason to close the borders. http://rense.com/general75/chhah.htm 
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