Re: CSWhat kind of Batteries ?
Yea $175 for a deep cycle marine battery you can get for $60 at the auto parts store. Pretty pricey label !! The windups probably use a big capacitor discharging through a big resistor or voltage regulator.. doesn't store much power, but charges up fast and doesn't go bad for a long time. Also very light weight and inexpensive compared to batteries The concept could be well applied to CS making as that doesn't take much power. If you put it along a trail, everyone who passes by could give the crank a turn or two and it would run the CS generator long enough for the next person to pass by. ...even some sort of treadle to step on along the way. ode At 09:37 PM 7/28/2007 -0500, you wrote: Evening Jonathan, At 08:22 PM 7/28/2007, you wrote: I assumed the writer meant solar-rechargeable batteries. . . First, Assuming is dangerous/ grin How many people will think as you did ? In todays world, most prefer that we call a Spade a Spade, an apple and apple, and an orange an orange. No way about it, that site is playing on the lack of knowledge by the masses. Misrepresenting and naming things wrong is enough to turn some of us OFF, even if he had good products and good prices. Likely he has 1000 competitors. Interesting story.. we had a phony order placed from another country for a large order of solar panels. I think they actually send a purchase order. We were a bit too smart and cautious with any foreign order.We never shipped of course and would not without cash in hand first. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.25/926 - Release Date: 7/29/2007 11:14 PM
Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees
DC/DC voltage doublers have been around for a long time. Neat trick, but they eat more power than just using 2 batteries to get that voltage. The only advantage is space savings. A couple of 6 volt bicycle generators for lights will do the job nicely and are not uncommon in the third world already. Some vanes attached to the spokes made out of old plastic bottles , tin cans or pieces of bark, sit bike upside down facing the wind...windmill. Ode At 10:21 AM 7/29/2007 +0900, you wrote: I'm thinking of a 4-9V rechargeable Nicad setup. A custom solar charger to hold 4 9-V batteries might do the job nicely. If the same device had a switch to go from charging to output that would be neat. It could have a simple built-in constant current controller and heavy-duty alligator clips. The idea would be to give these devices away through some existing, trustworthy agency, so the cost would have to be very modest, especially because the few people involved in this have no funding at present. SOTA Instruments has a patented method to turn the output of one 9-V battery into 36 volts in their low-cost Silver Pulser Lite.I think that device is constant current also. We'd not be aiming to do blood electrification, though, just make the EIS, and at $110, the Lite would be much too Heavy (expensive, that is.) The 4-9 plan might be cheaper and easier but I'm no engineer and am not sure. Bottom line, though: I am pretty sure the idea is workable, and could alleviate some of the misery the invasion and occupation have produced. JBB On Saturday, Jul 28, 2007, at 23:34 Asia/Tokyo, mborg...@att.net wrote: What about using solar powered batteries? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.25/926 - Release Date: 7/29/2007 11:14 PM
CSThanks to All
To all who responded with suggestions and comments about aid to Iraq, many thanks. Rather than take up too much bandwidth on that topic, I'll make only one thanks, and suggest that any further ideas -- especially more detailed ideas -- come to me directly. Much obliged! Incidentally, the designer of the solar stove that I hope can do double duty as a water distiller is a fine gentleman by the name of Steven E. Jones, PhD, whom I count as a friend and courageous role model. Jones has taken a bit of a beating for his outspoken truth-telling, but in time he will be vindicated, barring a total political breakdown in the USA. I mention Jones here in part because he former employer, BYU (which fired him for his 9/11 research) also has some scholars who've done hard research on EIS. The BYU research appeared several times in this list over the years. Maybe it will turn out that a handful of LDS-members -- hard scientists all --- will create the stove/distiller/EIS device that will give poor people some of the most powerful health tools they'll ever have. (I'm not an LDS member so I'm not on a mission with this message!) Thanks again. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThanks to All, Energy at hand
Morning JBB, At 07:11 AM 7/30/2007, you wrote: Rather than take up too much bandwidth on that topic, I'll make only one thanks, and suggest that any further ideas -- especially more detailed ideas -- come to me directly. Much obliged! Why do that ? We have the OT list. I am sure many are interested in this, me included. Unless this project is secret, I would like to know more about the basic design. I have studied solar collectors, solar cooking, and other phases of it for years. I doubt seriously that he has any new principles, just slightly different combinations of such. My friend just came back from a primitive country whereas he makes several trips per year. Just when he started building the stoves there, the price of metal nearly doubled. He told me about a water fall from 200 to 300 feet tall with a good flow rate. I told him he could borrow my book on water wheel design. So, . he has the energy source at hand. Sounds like the perfect place for a water wheel. There is nothing new under the sun. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees
If you are just going for a colloidal silver maker in Iraq, you do not need batteries. There is plenty of reliable sun. You just need a solar cell and a current limit circuit. The batteries will just cause more expense and they will probably be taken out for a more important purpose, like powering up the walkman or whatever they use these days... Dan -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees Maybe simple is best. You can't get simpler than four 9-V ni-cad solar rechargeable batteries. The only really desirable addition would be the electronics to produce automatic shutoff and constant current. Constant current, in my personal experience, makes a big difference. Without that, there's a sudden surge that produces a big cloud of particles before the device shuts off. On Sunday, Jul 29, 2007, at 11:44 Asia/Tokyo, CWFugitt wrote: Keep in mind that near 100% of such devices have an overhead and a direct effect on efficiency. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: question about homozon
I have posted a question about homozon before and it was answered but I dont remember seeing an answer about this particular question. I may have missed the answer or have forgotten. does homozon address parasites as well ? It may help with some, but by itself, I'd say no... except that by cleansing and detoxing the bowels, kidneys, liver and gall bladder, it destroys most of the hiding places of these critters - and by keeping the bowels moving, it will help to get rid of them as you kill them by other methods. From what I've been reading DE (diatomaceous earth) may be one of the more effective ways to eliminate many parasites, but there are lots of other, more time-tested methods (cloves, garlic, black walnut hulls, etc - google is your friend)... Here's one hit on DE: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=923441 Is it safe for long term use or just occasional cleansing ? thanks in advance It is very safe for long term use - but as with anything, you should take breaks occasionally. You can also achieve similar benefits if you drink ozonated water regularly, and aside from the one-time expense for the generator, and very minimal ongoing expenses for powering it, it is free, while homozon costs about $30 per bottle... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
I hate to think how it would search my 200,000 messages at any decent rate. It searches *very* quickly... and it has a very effective tagging capability (that Thunderbird just got), that makes it even easier. Interesting it has a POP3 but no SMTP server. sigh yes, it does... http://tinyurl.com/26xt8d It certainly is not for POWER Mail users. Period. Actually, yes, it is... it just works *differently* - and, as I said, the interface doesn't appeal to some (like me - I would have said you, but it is obvious you are commenting on something you know nothing about and haven't tried) *because* it is so different. I would be happy to comment on every item on the OT list. I am on too many lists already... I would not use it for $ 100.00 per month. I wouldn't use *any* email service for $100/mo... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
The is an option, Leave mail on the server but that is not a nice thing to do. The Gmail option is actually on the server (you have to intentionally enable POP access), so doesn't suffer from the negatives you obviously have encountered (as have I) with the client version of 'Leave messages on server'. With GMail, you can tell it to delete them, leave them in your Inbox, or archive them. You can also apply server side filters to tag them, dump them into folders, etc. But as I said - I'm just waiting for IMAP access... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSQuestion about homozon
Hi Zeb, Yes, to long term use safety, and I'm not certain about parasite, but I think not. Usually, people will also do a parasite cleanse seperate from homozon as far as I know. gail Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:29:08 -0700 (PDT) From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSquestion about homozon I have posted a question about homozon before and it was answered but I dont remember seeing an answer about this particular question. I may have missed the answer or have forgotten. does homozon address parasites as well ? Is it safe for long term use or just occasional cleansing ? thanks in advance Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSType I Diabetes
Use Glucose Enhancer, carb blockers, and cinnamon. Marshall Barb Radle wrote: I just talked to my friend that has it and he has type 2 not 1 which is a good thing. thanks for your input - Original Message - From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: Re: CSType I Diabetes Does anyone have any information about Type I Diabetes and natural ways to help with this problem. Barb, if you have either Border's or Barne Nobles' book stores near you, go to their health section and check = THE PH MIRACLE FOR DIABETICS by Robert O. Young You will have to change your eating habits, but that is a small price to pay, in my opinion. If you have a health food store near you, buy some ph tape. You can use that to test your acidic/alkaline balance. good luck in health, Smitty The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWe don't Have to know
Thank you so much for your caring interest Wayne. I think it is great of you to take the time to instruct me and I appreciate it. I think my brain and eyes are okay. Bless your sister. She's an inspiration. Faith. - Original Message - From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:53 PM Subject: CSWe don't Have to know Things we don't have to know in order to make CS. Evening Faith, This is not directed at you but any that want it to be. However, some of your questions and statements gave me the idea for this list and the message. There are many things we don't have to know, some we must know, and others fall in between. We do not have to know .: Instrumentation TDS, PTW PPM, Conductivity Volts from Amps AC from DC Mili Siemens and micro Siemens Mili mho micro mho ( now mostly obsolete ) Current Volts Amps Ohms Law The Faraday Equation Water Conductivity Batch Current Hot to use a Multi-Meter The Difference between a Transformer and a Power Supply Advanced Technical Knowledge in any associated field ( Others exist of course ) The things you must know and do ! No matter if you buy an intelligent automatic generator, a semi-automatic generator, a manual generator, build it, or someone helps you build it, you will be furnished very simple instructions. You must go by these exactly. If for any reason, you do not understand them, go back to the source for explanations. While going by these instructions, you have some important tasks to accomplish. Without instrumentation, you must train your eye and your mind, flawlessly. With all the generators mentioned above, you must be able to look at it ( actually look at the batch ) and tell if it is working properly. With the simpler and manual generators, your eye will become your number one instrument and measuring tool. It will become very keen and you will learn several important things. Use a Clock to time each batch. The elapsed time and the things you observe are very important. A little manual stirring does not hurt. Over time, your skills will amaze you. Trust me ! As you learn more and more, you may begin to make slight changes but you must understand why your are doing it, and the results to expect. I suggest you make a log on each batch, with elapsed time, other notes, and especially your eye observations. If you are blind or have impaired vision, ask for help from someone. A keen eye and a fully functional brain are both a must. Over time, you may learn and understand some of the terms above and want to study them in order to understand more. Why ask a question when you don't even understand the question, much less the answer ? That is, unless you ask, Where do I learn about this. I fear that making CS is a lot like computers. Most do not study enough to get half way to first base. Therefore they do not understand many points made about each. In summary, Don't worry about what you don't know. I have an 80 year old sister that makes lots of CS. She gives it away and travels around applying it to wounds that will not heal. She understands nothing, other than the instructions. All of the items mentioned, and my statements can have much, much more said about them. I hope this message will make life easier for the ones that simply will never understand some of the things relating to CS. Again, if you will train your eye, your mind, use a clock and keep a log, you will make great CS and can enjoy the many benefits while your learn more, ... as much as you desire. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: question about homozon
Is an ozonated water maker expensive? Leslie - Original Message - From: Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: CSRe: question about homozon I have posted a question about homozon before and it was answered but I dont remember seeing an answer about this particular question. I may have missed the answer or have forgotten. does homozon address parasites as well ? It may help with some, but by itself, I'd say no... except that by cleansing and detoxing the bowels, kidneys, liver and gall bladder, it destroys most of the hiding places of these critters - and by keeping the bowels moving, it will help to get rid of them as you kill them by other methods. From what I've been reading DE (diatomaceous earth) may be one of the more effective ways to eliminate many parasites, but there are lots of other, more time-tested methods (cloves, garlic, black walnut hulls, etc - google is your friend)... Here's one hit on DE: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=923441 Is it safe for long term use or just occasional cleansing ? thanks in advance It is very safe for long term use - but as with anything, you should take breaks occasionally. You can also achieve similar benefits if you drink ozonated water regularly, and aside from the one-time expense for the generator, and very minimal ongoing expenses for powering it, it is free, while homozon costs about $30 per bottle... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees
Hi There Wayne - would you please let me know where you found the solar panels for powering EIS makers - very interested as an alternative to no electricty - I make my own makers so this would be a great thing to have for the future ! Thanks Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset Yours : I found several small solar panels but they are too expensive for the primitive countries. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees
Morning Dan, At 08:08 AM 7/30/2007, you wrote: If you are just going for a colloidal silver maker in Iraq, you do not need batteries. There is plenty of reliable sun. You just need a solar cell and a current limit circuit. Likely this application needs the smallest solar charger in the world. It sure seems like a Near nothing solar panel. I would guess, 2 X 2 inches or 3 X 3 inches at most. I read some of the articles ( links on this list, I think ) about home built solar panels. Even in the primitive countries they could come up with the materials. Plus, charity groups make regular donations for some causes.Average income per person is $ 20.00 per year, or less. What surprised me, is that there are a few knowledgeable and educated people in these countries. I feel sure many of them help the ones that are not. The batteries will just cause more expense and they will probably be taken out for a more important purpose, like powering up the walkman or whatever they use these days... Yes, I agree. Not sure why the person wants to integrate the CS power with other more complex and powerful applications. If he is going to distill water, he must have a reasonable decent and powerful solar cooker. These have been in the evolution stage now for many years so proven ideas exist. I found several small solar panels but they are too expensive for the primitive countries. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEye of Revelation
Hi There Dan - would you like to give a short over view of what this one is about, I just went on Amazon and see it was written in 1990 so have probably already read it - so if you would like to jog my memory I would appreciate it Thanks Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: What is Gmail
I'm not one of the parties involved in this conversation but may I ask, what is IMAP access. I'm trying to decide if I want to make gmail my main email program. Thanks. Shelli - Original Message - From: Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: CSRe: What is Gmail The is an option, Leave mail on the server but that is not a nice thing to do. The Gmail option is actually on the server (you have to intentionally enable POP access), so doesn't suffer from the negatives you obviously have encountered (as have I) with the client version of 'Leave messages on server'. With GMail, you can tell it to delete them, leave them in your Inbox, or archive them. You can also apply server side filters to tag them, dump them into folders, etc. But as I said - I'm just waiting for IMAP access... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.25/926 - Release Date: 7/29/2007 11:14 PM
Re: CSRe: What is Gmail
Morning Shelli, At 12:54 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote: I'm not one of the parties involved in this conversation but may I ask, what is IMAP access. I'm trying to decide if I want to make gmail my main email program. Charles can explain it better. I have a slight understanding. However, BEWARE or the internet information about IMAP. https://neomailbox.com/imap_email.html This link is DEAD WRONG about IMAP and other mail capability. Plus, if you use a dialup ( no high speed ) Any web based mail will be slow as molasses, ... period. Even then, the Internet is vulnerable. Last week a construction company cut a large cable on the East Coast. Many parts of the internet was DOWN for 24 hours before it could be repaired. Without doubt, the most reliable is to pick up your mail and transfer it all to your computer, no matter if you get 100 emails per day or 500. I use 3 mail servers and 3 email addresses to beat the internet and mail server problems. You are not limited to one mail software ( nor one bogus web browser ) You can have 3, 4, of 5, all set up and working. I think my mail software would handle 15 email addresses and maybe that many mail servers. I normally limit it to 3 or 4. Use Web mail only as an emergency measure. Some say they use it because they can check mail from anywhere. Of course all my mail servers have Webmail any time I want to use it. I have always been able to check mail from any place I travel. I may have been a little wrong about gMail. But, it was because the fool that wrote the web page did a lousy job explaining. I understand the English language. Some of the things said there are incomplete and some things were not stated. The hackers are getting better and working longer hours. I think some are trained and may in fact be terrorists. I never like any situation I have no control over. By using multiple email addresses and mail servers, I always have one working no matter what the internet does, most of the time. Any other questions? Someone here can answer them, usually. Their answer may be a bit biased, like mine. I have set up mail on hundreds of computers, maybe thousands. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Pepto what???, was Re: CS H-Pylori ans.to Wayne
I haven't seen Pepto-Bismol or any generic version of it that actually contains bismuth for many years now. Where are you getting it? sol Harold MacDonald wrote: The Bismol in Pepto is Bismuth which some Drs use for people with H-P; but it must be used with caution as it will destroy the Liver and Kidneys.Read the label on the Pepto-B bottle ,do not over use. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees
Dan , today OXFAM produced a report stating that the Iraqi Govt ( a creation of the US Govt ) is failing to provide water, food , sanitation and shelter for 8 ( EIGHT ) MILLION people - every single day. I doubt that powering up a walkman or whatever they use these days is on the top of their priority list but it is a happy thought - thanks- Richard On 30/07/2007, at 15:08, Dan Nave wrote: If you are just going for a colloidal silver maker in Iraq, you do not need batteries. There is plenty of reliable sun. You just need a solar cell and a current limit circuit. The batteries will just cause more expense and they will probably be taken out for a more important purpose, like powering up the walkman or whatever they use these days... Dan -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees Maybe simple is best. You can't get simpler than four 9-V ni-cad solar rechargeable batteries. The only really desirable addition would be the electronics to produce automatic shutoff and constant current. Constant current, in my personal experience, makes a big difference. Without that, there's a sudden surge that produces a big cloud of particles before the device shuts off. On Sunday, Jul 29, 2007, at 11:44 Asia/Tokyo, CWFugitt wrote: Keep in mind that near 100% of such devices have an overhead and a direct effect on efficiency. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: Pepto what???, was Re: CS H-Pylori ans.to Wayne
http://www.pepto-bismol.com/faqs.shtml The active ingredient in Pepto-Bismol contains bismuth. The active ingredient in Pepto-Bismol is bismuth subsalicylate, a non-aspirin salicylate. -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Pepto what???, was Re: CS H-Pylori ans.to Wayne I haven't seen Pepto-Bismol or any generic version of it that actually contains bismuth for many years now. Where are you getting it? sol Harold MacDonald wrote: The Bismol in Pepto is Bismuth which some Drs use for people with H-P; but it must be used with caution as it will destroy the Liver and Kidneys.Read the label on the Pepto-B bottle ,do not over use. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: question about homozon
Is an ozonated water maker expensive? I guess that depends on what you call 'expensive'... ;) Most decent ones will be in the $150 - $300 range... Here are a few links (but don't take this as an endorsement - I've never owned any of them, I have a medical grade generator): http://www.braintuner.com/ozone.htm http://www.toolsforwellness.com/34021.html http://www.elixa.com/water/ozonator.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: H-Pylori ans.to Wayne
Manuka honey is not a rip off as some one said. That would be me... but you offered not one piece of evidence to support the claim that it is somehow different from regular, truly raw honey. I stand by my claim... but understand - I am not saying it is 'bad' - just over priced (and tastes yucky, at least to me), and that there is nothing 'special' about it as compared to other truly raw honeys. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Pepto what???, was Re: CS H-Pylori ans.to Wayne
Thanks for the correction! Of course it is, doh! I was looking at only the inactive ingredients, and also was confusing Pepto-Bismol with Kaopectate, which no longer contains kaolin, but now contains bismuth-subsalicylate also. Sorry for the stupidity, I'm running on 4 nights of virtually no sleep, and I think my brain has taken a vacation. sol Dan Nave wrote: http://www.pepto-bismol.com/faqs.shtml The active ingredient in Pepto-Bismol contains bismuth. The active ingredient in Pepto-Bismol is bismuth subsalicylate, a non-aspirin salicylate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: H-Pylori ans.to Wayne
Manuka honey is not a rip off as some one said. That would be me... but you offered not one piece of evidence to support the claim that it is somehow different from regular, truly raw honey. I stand by my claim... but understand - I am not saying it is a rip-off in that it is 'bad' - just over priced (and tastes yucky to me), and that there is nothing 'special' about it as compared to other truly raw honeys. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEye of Revelation
This book was originally written in 1939 and apparently reissued in 1947, so it is not new-age... It gives certain exercises that are supposed to reverse the aging process. Five exercises are physical, like repetitions of yoga asanas with particular breathing and certain muscle contractions when mastered. One of the exercises that is optional is involved with turning around the sexual energy, but it is very simple if a person would want to do it. It also gives some other types of advice as well about diet and intention, etc. Everyone that I know who has done it (usually just the 5 exercises) has reported good results from it. Dan -Original Message- From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEye of Revelation Hi There Dan - would you like to give a short over view of what this one is about, I just went on Amazon and see it was written in 1990 so have probably already read it - so if you would like to jog my memory I would appreciate it Thanks Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees
I am speaking from experience... Dan -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:r...@xxicenturysilver.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees Dan , today OXFAM produced a report stating that the Iraqi Govt ( a creation of the US Govt ) is failing to provide water, food , sanitation and shelter for 8 ( EIGHT ) MILLION people - every single day. I doubt that powering up a walkman or whatever they use these days is on the top of their priority list but it is a happy thought - thanks- Richard On 30/07/2007, at 15:08, Dan Nave wrote: If you are just going for a colloidal silver maker in Iraq, you do not need batteries. There is plenty of reliable sun. You just need a solar cell and a current limit circuit. The batteries will just cause more expense and they will probably be taken out for a more important purpose, like powering up the walkman or whatever they use these days... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees
Evening Sandee, At 12:12 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote: This one would fit in the shirt pocket or purse. It would charge a battery also. Rechargeable batteries come in 1000 sizes today. Many are shirt pocket size. Remember you need sunshine. Some parts of the midwest have little sun. Recently there has been little sun over much of the USA. Some low cost units here. http://shopping.msn.com/results/shp/?bcatId=10576,page=4 Small, Special Purpose Units, higher in cost. http://www.kaboodle.com/kateshaffer/a-wishlist-2-fun-little-stuff.html I make my own makers so this would be a great thing to have for the future ! You may or may not need a very small unit. I have several that are 12 X 12 inches. They come in a huge variety of Voltages, Wattages, and current outputs. Most of the small ones have no circuitry to regulate battery charge current, The output of the unit balances out with the internal resistance of the battery and generally does very well in this respect. Unless you plan to transport it in the purse, back pack, or survival bag, you likely do not need a miniature panel. Look and Search as thousands exist. Likely one from $ 15.00 to $ 50.00 will fill the bill. The Local AC power is less trouble, as long as it is there. For emergencies, your thinking is in order. Lugging about gallons of distilled water is not so easy. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
Biased is ok as long as people can separate opinion from facts, I was only trying to correct a few things. Just like when I try to give people information about health related stuff, I try to separate what can be proven from what I believe (which may be biased). I didn't mean to start of frenzy of off topic conversation, I just responded because I felt it only fair to let people know information as accurately as possible...not because I think its the most wonderful email in the world or something...so I for one am not going to be reading any more email with this topic line. Id like to get back to focusing on health stuff. Meg'gan quoted text: Any other questions? Someone here can answer them, usually. Their answer may be a bit biased, like mine.
Re: CSRe: What is Gmail
Me'gan: Gmail works for me. I used to have Netscape mail and Gmail is far better (IMO) Smitty On 7/30/07, Meggan Gaumer mlgcolloidali...@gmail.com wrote: Biased is ok as long as people can separate opinion from facts, I was only trying to correct a few things. Just like when I try to give people information about health related stuff, I try to separate what can be proven from what I believe (which may be biased). I didn't mean to start of frenzy of off topic conversation, I just responded because I felt it only fair to let people know information as accurately as possible...not because I think its the most wonderful email in the world or something...so I for one am not going to be reading any more email with this topic line. Id like to get back to focusing on health stuff. Meg'gan quoted text: Any other questions? Someone here can answer them, usually. Their answer may be a bit biased, like mine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: What is Gmail
I'm not one of the parties involved in this conversation but may I ask, what is IMAP access. I'm trying to decide if I want to make gmail my main email program. Charles can explain it better. I have a slight understanding. However, BEWARE or the internet information about IMAP. https://neomailbox.com/imap_email.html This link is DEAD WRONG about IMAP and other mail capability. In what way is it wrong? And if you only have a 'slight understanding' of how IMAP works, how in the world can you then turn around and accuse this web page of being 'DEAD WRONG'? I read the entire page at the link you provided, and find not one thing that is wrong - except maybe for one comment: You will be able to access all your mail folders and send mail from any device. Sending email has nothing to do with IMAP, so this statement is at least a bit misleading - but of course, there is no reason you cannot also run an SMTP server on the same box (which is what I do). But the first part - and everything else I read on that page - is spot on. Plus, if you use a dialup ( no high speed ) Any web based mail will be slow as molasses, ... period. Even then, the Internet is vulnerable. Last week a construction company cut a large cable on the East Coast. Many parts of the internet was DOWN for 24 hours before it could be repaired. Valid concerns as far as they go - but maybe you haven't heard of 'offline support' for IMAP? Thunderbird has had this for a long time, as do most other mature IMAP clients. By enabling 'offline support' for all of your IMAP folders, you are essentially keeping local copies of everything (not just the headers), so that you can search, reply, save attachments, etc, all without being connected to the internet. Without doubt, the most reliable is to pick up your mail and transfer it all to your computer, no matter if you get 100 emails per day or 500. Most reliable in what regard? By using IMAP with offline support (which I do recommend), you have the best of both worlds... You can also set up something like fetchmail to 'grab' any email from any of your POP accounts, and dump it into specific folders on your IMAP server automatically, so you don't NEED to check it yourself - it is just 'there' - and GMail supports this, under the 'Accounts Get mail from other accounts' setting. Of course, this is all way beyond what the average person will ever want, need or do... I use 3 mail servers and 3 email addresses to beat the internet and mail server problems. I have about 25 email addresses, some I manage/host myself (my own domains), others are freebies like gmail, yahoo, etc (the yahoo and hotmail are only for IM service, so I can have an IM identity for each of the services so I can talk to anyone on any service)... You are not limited to one mail software ( nor one bogus web browser ) You can have 3, 4, of 5, all set up and working. I have 15 different accounts set up in TBird right now - all IMAP based (with fetchmail to handle the POP only accounts like my Netzero and gmail), all accessed through Thunderbird... I think my mail software would handle 15 email addresses and maybe that many mail servers. I normally limit it to 3 or 4. Thunderbird would handle dozens - heck, hundreds of email accounts, and as many servers (each account can be on the same server, or a different one - makes no difference). And one thing I really like about Thunderbird is each account has its own folders (Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Templates, etc)... makes keeping things organized a breeze... Use Web mail only as an emergency measure. Emergency, or convenience... although I use strong passwords on all of my accounts, so I have to carry my password for my main account around with me as I still haven't memorized it (15 characters long, numbers, letters and special characters)... Some say they use it because they can check mail from anywhere. Of course all my mail servers have Webmail any time I want to use it. I prefer carrying around my Portable Thunderbird - then as long as I have access to a computer with a live USB port, I don't need to pull out my main account/password and resort to webmail. I have always been able to check mail from any place I travel. Ditto... as long as there is an internet connection. I also have access to ALL of my mail, no matter how I'm accessing it, thanks to IMAP. I may have been a little wrong about gMail. A *little*? ;) Almost everything you initially accused it of was wrong... But, it was because the fool that wrote the web page did a lousy job explaining. Wayne - be honest - and please don't blame someone else for your own errors. You're the one who decided to rely on a 15 month old web page complaining about a bug that was fixed the same day it was reported (that is the 'page' you are referring to, no?). All it would have taken is a few minutes with google to learn the facts about gmails
Re: CSEye of Revelation
The five exercises (known as the Five Tibetans) are extremely effective in fixing misaligned bodies, and improving overall muscle tone and spinal-sacral alignment. I know from experience this is true, and hating exercise, I just do them as needed. About two weeks worth is a good tune-up. You can download the illustrated exercises by googling Five Tibetans Sure worth the effort, even for an exercise hater. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: RE: CSEye of Revelation This book was originally written in 1939 and apparently reissued in 1947, so it is not new-age... It gives certain exercises that are supposed to reverse the aging process. Five exercises are physical, like repetitions of yoga asanas with particular breathing and certain muscle contractions when mastered. One of the exercises that is optional is involved with turning around the sexual energy, but it is very simple if a person would want to do it. It also gives some other types of advice as well about diet and intention, etc. Everyone that I know who has done it (usually just the 5 exercises) has reported good results from it. Dan -Original Message- From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEye of Revelation Hi There Dan - would you like to give a short over view of what this one is about, I just went on Amazon and see it was written in 1990 so have probably already read it - so if you would like to jog my memory I would appreciate it Thanks Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: What is Gmail
Evening Charles, Thanks for the facts and the message. At 04:55 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote: You will be able to access all your mail folders and send mail from any device. Sending email has nothing to do with IMAP, so this statement is at least a bit misleading - but of course, there is no reason you cannot also run an SMTP server on the same box (which is what I do). But the first part - and everything else I read on that page - is spot on. OK, that was one. Some of the things it mentioned as not being able to be done is easy and standard features of many email programs. In what way is it wrong? And if you only have a 'slight understanding' of how IMAP works, how in the world can you then turn around and accuse this web page of being 'DEAD WRONG'? When you read something in black and white, a slight understanding is enough. Seems you said it does SMTP. I did not read that anyplace. Maybe I missed it. The first line says it is a Webmail package. It mentions POP 3. Bit no SMTP. I read the entire page at the link you provided, and find not one thing that is wrong - except maybe for one comment: Several links on the side also. The page emphasizes features of IMAP that are standard and automatic in most programs. This block, (4) Filing email is not the best use of your time Storing mail in folders with subfolders and nested sub-sub folders is not a productive way to spend your day. Suggest that this is a manual operation and takes time. It takes zero time, but I do not use folders and subfolders, and only MBX ( mailbox files ) Valid concerns as far as they go - but maybe you haven't heard of 'offline support' for IMAP? Thunderbird has had this for a long time, as do most other mature IMAP clients. My mailer appears to support IMAP but have never used it. I don't think any of my mail servers have IMAP. By enabling 'offline support' for all of your IMAP folders, you are essentially keeping local copies of everything (not just the headers), so that you can search, reply, save attachments, etc, all without being connected to the internet. OK, I can understand that. You could use IMAP just like any mail server without using all the features. Most reliable in what regard? By using IMAP with offline support (which I do recommend), you have the best of both worlds... I don't disagree, but have never needed the other world. 'Accounts Get mail from other accounts' setting. Of course, this is all way beyond what the average person will ever want, need or do... Yes, the average person will be snowbound by IMAP. I talked to one network administrator today, He also has web servers he manages. He did not say anything bad about it. He did state that many, if not most network adminstrators like and use IMAP. I have about 25 email addresses, some I manage/host myself (my own domains), others are freebies like gmail, yahoo, etc (the yahoo and hotmail are only for IM service, so I can have an IM identity for each of the services so I can talk to anyone on any service)... It appears it was made by and for adminstrators and very powerful users. No complaints in that respect of course. I have 15 different accounts set up in TBird right now - all IMAP based (with fetchmail to handle the POP only accounts like my Netzero and gmail), all accessed through Thunderbird... OK, I can understand and appreciate that for sure. Thunderbird would handle dozens - heck, hundreds of email accounts, and as many servers (each account can be on the same server, or a different one - makes no difference). I just picked the number 15 not based on any facts. It handles more than I want or need. And one thing I really like about Thunderbird is each account has its own folders (Inbox, Sent, Drafts, Templates, etc)... makes keeping things organized a breeze... OK, now you have about sold me on Thunderbird. grin Emergency, or convenience... although I use strong passwords on all of my accounts, so I have to carry my password for my main account around with me as I still haven't memorized it (15 characters long, numbers, letters and special characters)... I won't ask how long it took you to learn all that. I prefer carrying around my Portable Thunderbird - then as long as I have access to a computer with a live USB port, I don't need to pull out my main account/password and resort to webmail. OK, another plus. You have that on key chain device or similar? I may have been a little wrong about gMail. A *little*? ;) Almost everything you initially accused it of was wrong... Not 100 %. I just did not like the wording on the information page I found. Likely there are better ones. Wayne - be honest - and please don't blame someone else for your own errors. I consider they are exaggerating a thing or two not granting that some of the things can be done other ways. I have set up dozens of mail SERVERS,
Re: CSRe: question about homozon - ozone
Hi Leslie, I would ask any questions of ozone to Dr. Saul Pressman. He has a line of ozonators that can be used for various uses and is one of the most knowlegeable people on ozone. He can be found on oxyp...@yahoo.com , ozonether...@yahoo.com, or his website at http://www.plasmafire.com/. G Murray Lee Nash wrote: Is an ozonated water maker expensive? Leslie - Original Message - From: Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: CSRe: question about homozon I have posted a question about homozon before and it was answered but I dont remember seeing an answer about this particular question. I may have missed the answer or have forgotten. does homozon address parasites as well ? It may help with some, but by itself, I'd say no... except that by cleansing and detoxing the bowels, kidneys, liver and gall bladder, it destroys most of the hiding places of these critters - and by keeping the bowels moving, it will help to get rid of them as you kill them by other methods. From what I've been reading DE (diatomaceous earth) may be one of the more effective ways to eliminate many parasites, but there are lots of other, more time-tested methods (cloves, garlic, black walnut hulls, etc - google is your friend)... Here's one hit on DE: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=923441 Is it safe for long term use or just occasional cleansing ? thanks in advance It is very safe for long term use - but as with anything, you should take breaks occasionally. You can also achieve similar benefits if you drink ozonated water regularly, and aside from the one-time expense for the generator, and very minimal ongoing expenses for powering it, it is free, while homozon costs about $30 per bottle... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThanks to All, Energy at hand
Hi, Wayne, No secrets, so far as I know. Dr. Jones is actually giving away the stoves, as he has in the past. I'm trying to find someone who will distribute them. Iraq is a a disaster that is just unbearable.Anyone who can help should. Let's try! I'll put some information on the OT list if anything would be of interest. I have support for the distiller/EIS combination so we'll see how it goes. JBB On Monday, Jul 30, 2007, at 21:45 Asia/Tokyo, CWFugitt wrote: Morning JBB, At 07:11 AM 7/30/2007, you wrote: Rather than take up too much bandwidth on that topic, I'll make only one thanks, and suggest that any further ideas -- especially more detailed ideas -- come to me directly. Much obliged! Why do that ? We have the OT list. I am sure many are interested in this, me included. Unless this project is secret, I would like to know more about the basic design. I have studied solar collectors, solar cooking, and other phases of it for years. I doubt seriously that he has any new principles, just slightly different combinations of such. My friend just came back from a primitive country whereas he makes several trips per year. Just when he started building the stoves there, the price of metal nearly doubled. He told me about a water fall from 200 to 300 feet tall with a good flow rate. I told him he could borrow my book on water wheel design. So, . he has the energy source at hand. Sounds like the perfect place for a water wheel. There is nothing new under the sun. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGenerators for Iraqi Refugees
This is the reason any effort can help. Dr. Jones' solar stoves can cook food, sterilize water, and maybe make distiller water for EIS, with a few adaptations. One stove could help several families. It would be a start. He's donating the stoves, but in time we'll have up a PayPal site for donations to pay for packing and shipping. Oxfam also says that Bush's new Executive Order is scaring the hell out of charitable groups; the man says he can seize the assets of anyone hindering reconstruction. If a decent group like OXFAM is worried, that's worrisome. On Tuesday, Jul 31, 2007, at 03:39 Asia/Tokyo, Richard wrote: Dan , today OXFAM produced a report stating that the Iraqi Govt ( a creation of the US Govt ) is failing to provide water, food , sanitation and shelter for 8 ( EIGHT ) MILLION people - every single day. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThanks to All, Energy at hand
Evening JBB, At 10:31 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote: No secrets, so far as I know. Dr. Jones is actually giving away the stoves, as he has in the past. Great ! Thanks for all the information. I'm trying to find someone who will distribute them. If my friends were going to that country, they would be interested. Iraq is a a disaster that is just unbearable.Anyone who can help should. Let's try! Yes, and the USA created it, to some degree. I'll put some information on the OT list if anything would be of interest. Yes, please do. I have always been interested in solar and solar cookers. I have support for the distiller/EIS combination so we'll see how it goes. Most people cannot imagine how powerful these devices can be. Usually the design is relatively simple. Sounds like he has combined some proven principles in a genius fashion. Yes, put any links to information, pictures, and links to information about the man doing this also on the OT list. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
