Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread G Murray

Hi all,

I work in a Canadian pharmacy and just yesteray I saw a product come in. 
It was a silver bandage pad.  It was about 4''X4" and it would retail at 
$205.00.  It was an a med supply company that made them , but I did not 
catch who it was that made them or the trade name of it.  Started with 
an A.  I will try and find the name tomorrow when I am at work.


G Murray


Cinder Ella wrote:

Funny, I am a Canadian and I just went last weekend to the Fall Home 
Show.  In it there were at least 2 booths advertising silver 
products.  One was an attachment for your washing machine that would 
eliminate soap.  The water went through it before going into the 
washer and would put silver ions in the wash water.  Also there was a 
woman there who was with a company who sold silver this silver that 
bla bla bla.  Everthing except silver water.  She had dust mittens 
impregnated with silver threads and magnetic laundry balls and all 
kinds of neat stuff.  I think this is the government's way of scaring 
people.  Sad.


D





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Re: CS>Buffered Vitamin C

2007-10-12 Thread Starshar
It's the doggone humidity!


  When I opened my 3/4 empty jar of buffered vitamin C (first time after being 
gone for a month), there were brown tiny beads all over it, whereas it's 
supposed to be pure white powder.  I doesn't appear to be bugs, but does anyone 
know what happened here?


Pat




Re[2]: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread zoe w




Actually the Amish do have autism,  just not as much as in other places.   Some of the younger ones  do vaccinate
but not all their autism came from vaccinations - indicating that there are other causes as well.
http://www.mercola.com/2005/jun/7/amish_autism.htm  

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted.html    

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Neurology/Autism/tb/2954   
zoe




>


Kurt I would be very interested to see the info on the Amish and the ALS info and where you got it from...thanks much ...debbie

Kurt Milkowski  wrote: 
Believe that crap they will tell you more. Take a look,a good look at what vaccines are all about. Vaccines have never eliminated anything from anyone. Woder why the Amish have never ever had an autistic child? Because they don't vaccinate. Take a look at the gulf war vets. Gulf war syndrome, which is basically ALS or Lou gehrigs disease, didn't show up in a single french soldier. Why? because they weren't vaccinated!! By the way more soldiers have died as a result of the gulf war than died during Viet Nam. If you have been vaccinated you ARE carrying a disease, not the other way around.
 
Kurt

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CS>Buffered Vitamin C

2007-10-12 Thread Pat
When I opened my 3/4 empty jar of buffered vitamin C (first time after being 
gone for a month), there were brown tiny beads all over it, whereas it's 
supposed to be pure white powder.  I doesn't appear to be bugs, but does anyone 
know what happened here?


  Pat




   

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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I would point out that the Amish also suffer from a high level of 
genetic disease, due to their shallow genetic pool.  Some participate 
in very high-tech genetic therapy programs, which would seem to against 
the "low-technology" lifestyle.   I was surprised and interested to 
learn about that.   It makes me wonder whether immunization refusal is 
universal among this community.   As for "Gulf War Syndrome," there's 
considerable evidence that it results from depleted uranium.





On Saturday, Oct 13, 2007, at 12:00 Asia/Tokyo, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Kurt I would be very interested to see the info on the Amish and the 
ALS info and where you got it from...thanks much ...debbie


Kurt Milkowski  wrote:

Believe that crap they will tell you more. Take a look,a good look at 
what vaccines are all about. Vaccines have never eliminated anything 
from anyone. Woder why the Amish have never ever had an autistic 
child? Because they don't vaccinate. Take a look at the gulf war vets. 
Gulf war syndrome, which is basically ALS or Lou gehrigs disease, 
didn't show up in a single french soldier. Why? because they weren't 
vaccinated!! By the way more soldiers have died as a result of the 
gulf war than died during Viet Nam. If you have been vaccinated you 
ARE carrying a disease, not the other way around.

 
Kurt

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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Deborah Gerard
I see your point Ode..BUT it sure doesn't give whoever is producing these 
vaccines the right to put mercury and/or anyother extremely harmful additive to 
these vaccines that are causing havoc in the unsuspecticing, trusting publics,  
bodies.debbie

Ode Coyote  wrote:  Regardless of unproven "bullshit", 
Does any transport person have the 
right to be a disease carrier?

You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox?
..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox?

Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be harmful 
to some people for different reasons, may be questionable, but the whole 
field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven success with 
centuries of experience to back it up.

Smallpox inoculation was started 
in India or 
China before 200 
BC.[1] In 
1718, 
Lady Mary Wortley 
Montague reported that the Turks have 
a habit of deliberately inoculating themselves with fluid taken from mild 
cases of smallpox and she inoculated her own 
children.[2] 
In 1796 
Edward Jenner inoculated using 
cowpox (a mild relative of the deadly 
smallpox virus). Pasteur and others 
built on this

Ode

At 02:38 PM 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:

>>I don't think they can force you to take a vaccine, but they can 
>>constitutionally en force a quarantine.
>
>No, they can't - but they can UNconstitutinally enforce one.
>
>>If you aren't vaccinated, you disqualify yourself from being an enforcer 
>>or having any part in a transport operation, becoming a potential part of 
>>the problem vs part of any solution.
>
>? Vaccines simply DON'T WORK. It appears you have fallen for the FUD?
>
>>No job and rightly so, but not force, just choice. Work safe or stay at 
>>home.
>
>Bullshit... sorry, Ode, but this is ridiculous. No one has the 'Right' to 
>force someone to do something so ridiculous in order to keep a job. 
>Vaccines are one of the big cons - right up there with the income tax and 
>drivers licenses.
>
>>A vaccine costs everyone a lot less than a quarantine,
>
>More bullshit. A vaccine won't prevent diddly.
>
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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Deborah Gerard
Kurt I would be very interested to see the info on the Amish and the ALS info 
and where you got it from...thanks much ...debbie

Kurt Milkowski  wrote:Believe that crap they 
will tell you more. Take a look,a good look at what vaccines are all about. 
Vaccines have never eliminated anything from anyone. Woder why the Amish have 
never ever had an autistic child? Because they don't vaccinate. Take a look at 
the gulf war vets. Gulf war syndrome, which is basically ALS or Lou gehrigs 
disease, didn't show up in a single french soldier. Why? because they weren't 
vaccinated!! By the way more soldiers have died as a result of the gulf war 
than died during Viet Nam. If you have been vaccinated you ARE carrying a 
disease, not the other way around.
   
  Kurt

Ode Coyote  wrote:
   
   
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Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought-Jodi

2007-10-12 Thread Jodi

Clayton Family wrote:

How much silver did you get up to?



I don't remember.  Sorry.  But I can tell you that, with what I know 
now, if my symptoms returned, I'd probably take at least 1/2 an ounce of 
EIS every 30 minutes to an hour.  [grin]Jodi 



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CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Simon Jester
We do need a vaccine against rabies, I think.  There have been a few 
cases of rabid wild animals coming into yards in this state (SC).  
You might never know if your dog had been bitten.


Repeat after me...

VACCINES ... DON'T ... WORK ...


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CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Simon Jester

Gee, Simon.  Sounds like you might need a rabies shot...


Yeah, I know - I don't tolerate ignorance with respect to such dangerous 
things very well.



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RE: CS>'Health" Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread bob Larson
if canada's laws are like the usa, then they attacked because the seller was
making health claims that reclassified the CS as a drug.  that's an
invitation to get pounced upon here in usa.
  -Original Message-
  From: Cinder Ella [mailto:mcomfy...@yahoo.ca]
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:28 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes


  Funny, I am a Canadian and I just went last weekend to the Fall Home Show.
In it there were at least 2 booths advertising silver products.  One was an
attachment for your washing machine that would eliminate soap.  The water
went through it before going into the washer and would put silver ions in
the wash water.  Also there was a woman there who was with a company who
sold silver this silver that bla bla bla.  Everthing except silver water.
She had dust mittens impregnated with silver threads and magnetic laundry
balls and all kinds of neat stuff.  I think this is the government's way of
scaring people.  Sad.

  D


Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread Carl Deb Charter
I guess silver is ok for big business, but watch out if it competes with big 
pharma!!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cinder Ella 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes


  Funny, I am a Canadian and I just went last weekend to the Fall Home Show.  
In it there were at least 2 booths advertising silver products.  One was an 
attachment for your washing machine that would eliminate soap.  The water went 
through it before going into the washer and would put silver ions in the wash 
water.  Also there was a woman there who was with a company who sold silver 
this silver that bla bla bla.  Everthing except silver water.  She had dust 
mittens impregnated with silver threads and magnetic laundry balls and all 
kinds of neat stuff.  I think this is the government's way of scaring people.  
Sad.

  D




  - Original Message 
  From: Scott 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:24:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes

  We knew it was going to happen somewhere but I am surprised that Canada 
struck first. The US EPA, apparently, is still investigating CS use in 
appliances, clothing, etc. So, I imagine the US FDA isn't too far behind Health 
Canada. Go figure, since CS has proven to be successful in everything we've 
claimed it to be. You think the desire for money and control are the motivators 
here? I still haven't seen but a couple of claims of argyria and that was due 
to poor physician prescribing and personal use of CS cousins - silver nitrate, 
silver salts, proteins, etc. Anyhow, thanks for the "heads up".

  Terry Chamberlin  wrote: 
See:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/2007/2007_115_e.html

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RE: CS>Ruth

2007-10-12 Thread ruth strackbein

Hi, Dee, Thanks for your information about magnesium. But what do you mean that 
magnesium chloride is the form the body turns the different forms into Mary?  
RuthFrom Ruth Strackbein


Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:48:35 +0100From: d...@deetroy.orgto: 
silver-l...@eskimo.comsubject: RE: CS>Ruth









I think magnesium chloride is the form the body turns the different forms into 
Mary, but if you buy mag citrate I think this is the easiest form for the body 
to use and convert.  Magnesium oxide which is in most proprietary brands, is 
the *least* available form.  With products made for indigestion, you have to be 
careful that they don't contain aluminium. Hope this helps.  Dee  
 

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From: ruth strackbein
Date: 10/12/07 03:59:18
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Ruth
 MMy chiropractor says the Milk of magnesia from Philips is probably the best 
of the drugstore variety, unless I would use a truly chelated variety.  The 
kinds of chelated magnesium found in chain stores and drugstores usually isn't 
really chelated.  I forget all he said about that.  Ruth>From Ruth 
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Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread Cinder Ella
Funny, I am a Canadian and I just went last weekend to the Fall Home Show.  In 
it there were at least 2 booths advertising silver products.  One was an 
attachment for your washing machine that would eliminate soap.  The water went 
through it before going into the washer and would put silver ions in the wash 
water.  Also there was a woman there who was with a company who sold silver 
this silver that bla bla bla.  Everthing except silver water.  She had dust 
mittens impregnated with silver threads and magnetic laundry balls and all 
kinds of neat stuff.  I think this is the government's way of scaring people.  
Sad.
D



- Original Message 
From: Scott 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:24:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes

We knew it was going to happen somewhere but I am surprised that Canada struck 
first. The US EPA, apparently, is still investigating CS use in appliances, 
clothing, etc. So, I imagine the US FDA isn't too far behind Health Canada. Go 
figure, since CS has proven to be successful in everything we've claimed it to 
be. You think the desire for money and control are the motivators here? I still 
haven't seen but a couple of claims of argyria and that was due to poor 
physician prescribing and personal use of CS cousins - silver nitrate, silver 
salts, proteins, etc. Anyhow, thanks for the "heads up".

Terry Chamberlin  wrote:
See:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/2007/2007_115_e.html

So it begins here in Canada


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CS>mandatory anthrax vaccine?

2007-10-12 Thread bob Larson
...this is the first mention of any such thing i've seen.
can't be for real.  please point me to something that says it is.

> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org]
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:38 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?
> 
> 
> > I'd have to point out that the national anthrax vaccine is mandatory.
> 
> More bullshit... I haven't taken it, and never will.
> 
> > See my blog for more research on that one...
> 
> A link might actually result in someone reading it...
> 
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RE: CS>Hep c

2007-10-12 Thread bob Larson

-Original Message-

Bob
Are you saying that you are taking 4 doses of 15 drops each day as in 60
drops/ a day?

...yup.  two doses evening, two more early morning,  each two are about two
hours apart.  the idea is to start a few hours after last food for the day
and finish in time to have breakfast by 10 or so...cuz everything i eat,
plus supps, has lots of vit C in it.

That’s an incredible amt of mms.  Is that your own dosing or did you get
that from Jim Humble?

...i believe it's consistent with JH's recommendations when dealing with
hep-C and HIV and other imbedded infections.
this morning finished my first day of a set of 4 doses at 15 drops.  i had
my first nausea, but not too bad.  and almost diarrhea but not really out of
control at all.  by noon it had mellowed out o.k.  i think i'll cut back to
one 15 drop dose right before bed tonight, then 2 more at middle of the
night pee time and upon waking, for a total of 3 for the night, and see if i
get the nausea/loose stool again tomorrow.

I’m thinking that people who have been using eis are not having any
cleansing from the mms.  Have you picked that up?

...yeah, i seem to be cleaned out already except for the hep-C and possibly
some obstinate hanger-on toenail fungus that could come back if i back off
silver etc before nails are completely grown out clear.  haven't had a cold
or anything since starting CS last year, despite everything going around at
various times ... i feel kind of invulnerable, which could be a dangerous
illusion but it's a good feeling.

 Lyme and Hep c are real buggers, though, and desperate people do desperate
things.

...i don't know how desperate i am cuz i don't really care that much if i
live or die, but a life of misery is to be avoided for sure, and i'm already
getting real bored & annoyed with having to spend all my time and money
focused on this survival thing while others have more fun lives ...it is
kind of an interesting quest to try to clear the HCV before mig pharma/med
actually comes up with a worthwhile treatment option i'm willing to chance
and endure.

  I’m only at 8 drops/day not from sides but the smell of chlorine before
dilution gives me such a headache just like being around a swimming pool or
other chemicals and the taste….

...i don't like the chlorine smell at all either, and the hep-C made me
extra sensitive, but since i seem to have it under some kind of control with
all the silver etc the smell hypersensitivity has diminished.
i'm using citric acid to activate the MMS, and then pouring it into organic
concord grape juice that has only citric acid added to it...only using about
2oz of juice so it doesn't take long to down the dose.  i don't breath
through my nose at all while drinking it, and it goes down in about 3 or 4
swallows which don't taste bad at all.  i follow that with some water.

All of us researchers and experimenters are an interesting bunch, aren’t we?

...yup.  better company than the "whatever you say doc" dumbass general
populace for sure.



Nina


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CS>drug resistant disease

2007-10-12 Thread Marshall Dudley

This might be something to keep the CS (or MMS) around for:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/07/MNEUSGV3A.DTL&feed=rss.news

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RE: CS>Hepatitis advice sought

2007-10-12 Thread mborgert
That was 33 yrs ago, I got over it quickly.
Mary

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From: "Dan Nave" 
>
> You probably had "infectious" hepatitis type A and your friend had
> "serum" hepatitis type B.
> 
> You will get over most hepatitis A and B with rest, and if you don't
> over exert yourself.  Conventional treatment is near bed rest, restrict
> fats as the bile duct is usually inflamed and closed, and to give sugars
> to reduce the effort of the liver to make/store sugars.
> 
> Dan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:38 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought
> 
> I took nothing else as I did not know of silver as it was 33 yrs ago.
> No drugs, the doc said the slow release of sugar repairs the liver, it
> did mine and my friends' liver.  As I stated she lost her whole liver.
> We did not have hep at the same time.  She went to Hawaii and ate
> something most of the other patrons also ended up with hep.
> Mine was related to the surgery, the doc said it was the needle, do not
> know how they can tell, at least it was not cancer.
> Mary 
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: Clayton Family 
> >
> > so, you only sucked on hard candies?  No silver, or other things?
> > 
> > On Oct 11, 2007, at 6:20 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
> > 
> > > I had hep. had a liver bio. lost 1/2 of my liver. doc made me suck 
> > > on hard candies for months but it healed the liver and was made
> whole.
> > > Mary
> 
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RE: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Dan Nave
Gee, Simon.  Sounds like you might need a rabies shot...

Dan

;-)) 

-Original Message-
From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

> Regardless of unproven "bullshit", Does any transport person have the 
> right to be a disease carrier?

YES, Ode, I have the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to live my life free from being
assaulted with a deadly weapon by you just because you have some
undefined, unproven FEAR that something that I might or might not be
carrying might or might not be dangerous to you.

> You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox?
> ..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox?

Yep - thats what I'm saying. If you believe it does, then you have
fallen for their FUD.

> Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be 
> harmful to some people for different reasons, may be questionable,

Nope... not questionable. NONE of them work, and they are ALL harmful.

PERIOD.

> but the whole field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven 
> success with centuries of experience to back it up.

Yep - you've fallen for their lies/FUD.

And as for the rest, fyi - wikipedia is nice as a BEGINNING reference
for researching things - but just because something is in wikipedia
doesn't make it true.

Some of those links refer NOT to modern 'vaccines', but a process
similar to homeopathy, and may indeed have been beneficial to an
extent... but it bears ZERO resemblance to the modern day nightmare that
is 'vaccines'.

Pasteur was a fraud - read up on Antoine Bechamp...


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CS>Resistant e-coli

2007-10-12 Thread faith gagne

A new, drug-resistant strain of E. coli in Britain
In England and Wales, around 30,000 people a year are infected with a new 
strain of E. coli bacteria that is resistant to many antibiotics. The new 
strain, an extended-spectrum B-lactamase (ESBL)-producing strain that causes 
urinary tract infections and can also lead to blood poisoning, is also starting 
to show up in U.S. hospitals. According to one expert, it is more dangerous 
than methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA). Doctors have few drugs 
available to treat such infections. The problem of antibiotic resistance is 
growing worldwide, in part due to agricultural practices that feed antibiotics 
to animals that are not sick. Read more from The Daily Telegraph.


Faith


CS>Posts

2007-10-12 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hi, Been trying to post information several times today and it's not showing 
up. What would the reason for this be?
   
  Kurt


CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Simon Jester
Regardless of unproven "bullshit", Does any transport person have 
the right to be a disease carrier?


YES, Ode, I have the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to live my life free from being 
assaulted with a deadly weapon by you just because you have some 
undefined, unproven FEAR that something that I might or might not be 
carrying might or might not be dangerous to you.



You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox?
..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox?


Yep - thats what I'm saying. If you believe it does, then you have 
fallen for their FUD.


Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be 
harmful to some people for different reasons, may be questionable,


Nope... not questionable. NONE of them work, and they are ALL harmful.

PERIOD.

but the whole field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven 
success with centuries of experience to back it up.


Yep - you've fallen for their lies/FUD.

And as for the rest, fyi - wikipedia is nice as a BEGINNING reference 
for researching things - but just because something is in wikipedia 
doesn't make it true.


Some of those links refer NOT to modern 'vaccines', but a process 
similar to homeopathy, and may indeed have been beneficial to an 
extent... but it bears ZERO resemblance to the modern day nightmare that 
is 'vaccines'.


Pasteur was a fraud - read up on Antoine Bechamp...


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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Pat
We do need a vaccine against rabies, I think.  There have been a few cases of 
rabid wild animals coming into yards in this state (SC).  You might never know 
if your dog had been bitten.


Pat


 > The rabies vaccine is effective, isn't it?

How would you or anyone know? How would you test it? I have no desire 
to... besides, it is easily treated now, so no need for the *always* 
questionable vaccine...










  

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Re: CS>Re: Scabies

2007-10-12 Thread Scott
Sorry about the lack of awareness regarding this post. Anyhow, scabies and 
other such pests must have a "host" to live. They can live for awhile without 
one but they must have a host to survive. So, when I dust my house, I do it 
everywhere using a talcum powder bottle or something that has small holes that 
will disperse the DE fairly well. Make sure to where a filtering mask (paper 
ones will work) when spreading the DE. Also, make sure all pets are put 
outdoors or take them to someone else's house for at least one hour after 
dusting. You may dust your pets after they come back in but be sure you do not 
allow them to inhale a lot of the powder. I will vacuum the house, furniture, 
mattresses and pillows a few hours after dusting to ensure the DE has settled. 
Use a micron-filtered or hepa-filtered vacuum, otherwise you will have a "dust 
bowl" in your home. Repeat dusting the home at the change of seasons - spring 
to summer, summer to winter, winter to spring. Do pets after
 bathing them. I also put a half teaspoon of DE in my small dog's food for 10 
days on, 10 days off for as long as I notice any pest problems. If your vet is 
familiar with DE, check with them for type/size of your pet and their suggested 
protocol.  Hope this helps and I apologize for not responding to this reply.

Tad Winiecki  wrote: My brother in Houston claims to 
have been having major problems for a 
couple of years with an invisible "no-see-um" that he picked up near 
Waco.  He's planning to come visit me next month so I am concerned that 
he eliminate this problem before he comes.  I know he uses DE in his 
carpet.  What about ozone released in the room while no one is present, 
would that kill mites?  If I sprinkled DE on a laminate floor would it 
scratch the surface?  I don't know if he actually has scabies, does it 
have to be spread by close contact or do the scabies jump off and 
infest beds, etc?

Nancy
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I used Diatomaceous Earth (Food Grade) which worked wonderfully - 
internally and externally. I used one tablespoon mixed in my milk or 
Orange Juice for 10 days with 10 days off for six months. No more 
scabies, mites, etc. I dusted myself, my whole house (wearing a dust 
mask, of course) with the stuff and around the outside of my house. I 
vacuumed indoors the following day.  It's cheap and works great! Take 
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RE: CS>Hepatitis advice sought

2007-10-12 Thread Dan Nave
You probably had "infectious" hepatitis type A and your friend had
"serum" hepatitis type B.

You will get over most hepatitis A and B with rest, and if you don't
over exert yourself.  Conventional treatment is near bed rest, restrict
fats as the bile duct is usually inflamed and closed, and to give sugars
to reduce the effort of the liver to make/store sugars.

Dan

-Original Message-
From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought

I took nothing else as I did not know of silver as it was 33 yrs ago.
No drugs, the doc said the slow release of sugar repairs the liver, it
did mine and my friends' liver.  As I stated she lost her whole liver.
We did not have hep at the same time.  She went to Hawaii and ate
something most of the other patrons also ended up with hep.
Mine was related to the surgery, the doc said it was the needle, do not
know how they can tell, at least it was not cancer.
Mary 

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From: Clayton Family 
>
> so, you only sucked on hard candies?  No silver, or other things?
> 
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 6:20 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
> 
> > I had hep. had a liver bio. lost 1/2 of my liver. doc made me suck 
> > on hard candies for months but it healed the liver and was made
whole.
> > Mary


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Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread Dianne France
Terry

They have tried to take away availability of our healthy supplements here in 
the states.  I really didn't believe that the government was out to get you but 
I'm definitely starting to believe big pharma is.  

Do you have your own generator or do you have to depend on over the counter?

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Terry Chamberlin 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:36 AM
  Subject: CS>'Health" Canada strikes


  See:
  
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/2007/2007_115_e.html

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RE: CS>Hep c

2007-10-12 Thread Dan Nave
This seems really obvious as I write it, but maybe not...
 
I, too, was bothered greatly by the chlorine smell, but not any more.  
 
I mix up my MMS on the back of my stove top and turn on the exhaust vent
which is over the stove.  As soon as the MMS and acid is mixed up, I put
a cover over the glass it is in.  After 3 minutes, I hold it near the
exhaust vent and open the lid.  Then I add some apple juice (without
vitamin C) and chug it down.  Almost not chlorine smell.  (If I make it
on the counter and cover, but do not use near the exhaust vent, the
smell is less but still very strong.)
 
Also, initially I felt *very* sick while taking the MMS, constant smell
of smoked meat..., liver and stomach pain, nausea, diarrhea, and once
vomiting.  Now I am back up to 12 drops once a day and have no negative
effects other than occasional loose stools, but without the nausea.
Take Jim H's advice and don't stop the MMS but just back down for
adverse effects.  You should be able to pass through them.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Dan
 
 




From: Nina Bozarth [mailto:nboza...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Hep c



Bob

Are you saying that you are taking 4 doses of 15 drops each day as in 60
drops/ a day?

That's an incredible amt of mms.  Is that your own dosing or did you get
that from Jim Humble?

I'm thinking that people who have been using eis are not having any
cleansing from the mms.  Have you picked that up? Lyme and Hep c are
real buggers, though, and desperate people do desperate things.  I'm
only at 8 drops/day not from sides but the smell of chlorine before
dilution gives me such a headache just like being around a swimming pool
or other chemicals and the taste

All of us researchers and experimenters are an interesting bunch, aren't
we?

Nina



RE: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Dan Nave
This is all wishful thinking.

Just like a drug test, which is an absolute invasion of privacy, your
employer can probably require that you do this if you are going to work
there.  Your employer can basically fire you for anything except those
things that are specifically prohibited such as certain kinds of
discrimination.

I'm not saying this is fair or right.  I'm saying this is the way it
is...

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

> I don't think they can force you to take a vaccine, but they can 
> constitutionally en force a quarantine.

No, they can't - but they can UNconstitutinally enforce one.

> If you aren't vaccinated, you disqualify yourself from being an 
> enforcer or having any part in a transport operation, becoming a 
> potential part of the problem vs part of any solution.

? Vaccines simply DON'T WORK. It appears you have fallen for the FUD?

> No job and rightly so, but not force, just choice.  Work safe or stay 
> at home.

Bullshit... sorry, Ode, but this is ridiculous. No one has the 'Right' 
to force someone to do something so ridiculous in order to keep a job. 
Vaccines are one of the big cons - right up there with the income tax
and drivers licenses.

> A vaccine costs everyone a lot less than a quarantine,

More bullshit. A vaccine won't prevent diddly.


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Re: CS>'Health" Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread Scott
We knew it was going to happen somewhere but I am surprised that Canada struck 
first. The US EPA, apparently, is still investigating CS use in appliances, 
clothing, etc. So, I imagine the US FDA isn't too far behind Health Canada. Go 
figure, since CS has proven to be successful in everything we've claimed it to 
be. You think the desire for money and control are the motivators here? I still 
haven't seen but a couple of claims of argyria and that was due to poor 
physician prescribing and personal use of CS cousins - silver nitrate, silver 
salts, proteins, etc. Anyhow, thanks for the "heads up".

Terry Chamberlin  wrote: See:
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Re: CS>Torn retina, laser treatment

2007-10-12 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Faith - thanks for the info. if I ever need his services I will
get in touch with him
I also have one in New Mexico however Boston is now closer to me than NM

Have a super day
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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Believe that crap they will tell you more. Take a look,a good look at what 
vaccines are all about. Vaccines have never eliminated anything from anyone. 
Woder why the Amish have never ever had an autistic child? Because they don't 
vaccinate. Take a look at the gulf war vets. Gulf war syndrome, which is 
basically ALS or Lou gehrigs disease, didn't show up in a single french 
soldier. Why? because they weren't vaccinated!! By the way more soldiers have 
died as a result of the gulf war than died during Viet Nam. If you have been 
vaccinated you ARE carrying a disease, not the other way around.
   
  Kurt

Ode Coyote  wrote:
  Regardless of unproven "bullshit", Does any transport person have the 
right to be a disease carrier?

You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox?
..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox?

Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be harmful 
to some people for different reasons, may be questionable, but the whole 
field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven success with 
centuries of experience to back it up.

Smallpox inoculation was started 
in India or 
China before 200 
BC.[1] In 
1718, 
Lady Mary Wortley 
Montague reported that the Turks have 
a habit of deliberately inoculating themselves with fluid taken from mild 
cases of smallpox and she inoculated her own 
children.[2] 
In 1796 
Edward Jenner inoculated using 
cowpox (a mild relative of the deadly 
smallpox virus). Pasteur and others 
built on this

Ode

At 02:38 PM 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:

>>I don't think they can force you to take a vaccine, but they can 
>>constitutionally en force a quarantine.
>
>No, they can't - but they can UNconstitutinally enforce one.
>
>>If you aren't vaccinated, you disqualify yourself from being an enforcer 
>>or having any part in a transport operation, becoming a potential part of 
>>the problem vs part of any solution.
>
>? Vaccines simply DON'T WORK. It appears you have fallen for the FUD?
>
>>No job and rightly so, but not force, just choice. Work safe or stay at 
>>home.
>
>Bullshit... sorry, Ode, but this is ridiculous. No one has the 'Right' to 
>force someone to do something so ridiculous in order to keep a job. 
>Vaccines are one of the big cons - right up there with the income tax and 
>drivers licenses.
>
>>A vaccine costs everyone a lot less than a quarantine,
>
>More bullshit. A vaccine won't prevent diddly.
>
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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Marshall Dudley

Simon Jester wrote:
There aren't many vaccines I would take nowdays, but back in the day, 
I suppose smallpox and polio vaccines were useful.


No - pure propaganda/myth.


You don't see crippled people nowdays like there used to be from
polio.


The fact is, the incidence of polio was already on the downswing when 
the vaccine was introduced... see here:


http://www.vaclib.org/basic/polio.htm
That it is on the downswing is not surprising since it seems that polio 
was a contamination of the smallpox vaccination, and only became endemic 
after the smallpox vaccine was introduced.


Marshall



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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Ode Coyote
  Regardless of unproven "bullshit", Does any transport person have the 
right to be a disease carrier?


You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox?
..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox?

 Which vaccines work and which don't and that some vaccines may be harmful 
to some people for different reasons, may be questionable,  but the whole 
field of vaccination is pretty much an over all proven success with 
centuries of experience to back it up.


Smallpox inoculation was started 
in India or 
China before 200 
BC.[1] In 
1718, 
Lady Mary Wortley 
Montague reported that the Turks have 
a habit of deliberately inoculating themselves with fluid taken from mild 
cases of smallpox and she inoculated her own 
children.[2] 
In 1796 
Edward Jenner inoculated using 
cowpox (a mild relative of the deadly 
smallpox virus). Pasteur and others 
built on this


Ode

At 02:38 PM 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:

I don't think they can force you to take a vaccine, but they can 
constitutionally en force a quarantine.


No, they can't - but they can UNconstitutinally enforce one.

If you aren't vaccinated, you disqualify yourself from being an enforcer 
or having any part in a transport operation, becoming a potential part of 
the problem vs part of any solution.


? Vaccines simply DON'T WORK. It appears you have fallen for the FUD?

No job and rightly so, but not force, just choice.  Work safe or stay at 
home.


Bullshit... sorry, Ode, but this is ridiculous. No one has the 'Right' to 
force someone to do something so ridiculous in order to keep a job. 
Vaccines are one of the big cons - right up there with the income tax and 
drivers licenses.



A vaccine costs everyone a lot less than a quarantine,


More bullshit. A vaccine won't prevent diddly.


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Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought-Jodi

2007-10-12 Thread Clayton Family
Jodi, thanks very much for the reply.  Mesosilver website says it is 20 
ppm, so if you have 10 ppm, you use twice as  much.  People have said 
that every 2 hours is the most often since it takes that long to go 
through the system. Did you do that? Or did you sip throughout the day 
like some?


Kathryn

On Oct 11, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Jodi wrote:


Clayton Family wrote:


I have a good friend that is taking  a little CS for her hep, and 
would love to have more info. In particular, she is concerned about 
larger amounts of CS conflicting with her herbs and chinese 
medicines, or rather, her practitioner is concerned, and she would 
like info to reassure him, as well as educate herself.  Her viral 
load is over 12 million, type 1A.



Hi Kathryn -

There are no contraindications with silver, that I know of.  It goes 
with everything, except bacteria, viruses and germs.  [grin]   I had 
600,000 copies of Hep C in the latter part of 2000, although I don't 
remember which type.  The doctor I saw told me I was worse-off than 
any of her other patients with Hep C at that point, so I can't imagine 
what your friend is going through with a whopping 12 million copies.  
I guess I had it good.
I started on Mesosilver, taking 1 tablespoon 3 times a day, and then 
went on to making my own EIS with a Silver Puppy generator (from Ode), 
and took more.  If she treats herself with EIS (instead of CS such as 
Mesosilver), she will have to dose often and more at a time, but it 
will still work.  Silver is silver, whether it's EIS or CS, all she 
has to do is to take more if dosing with EIS (what we make at home).
I was also later told to take Alpha-lipoic Acid (600 mg. per day), 
Selenium (400 mcg. per day), MGN-3 (from mushrooms, I believe) and 
Vitamin C, and did so, and my symptoms (yellow skin and a swollen 
abdomen) disappeared very quickly and never returned.

I hope this helps.
Jodi


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Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought-Jodi

2007-10-12 Thread Clayton Family

How much silver did you get up to?

On Oct 11, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Jodi wrote:


Clayton Family wrote:


I have a good friend that is taking  a little CS for her hep, and 
would love to have more info. In particular, she is concerned about 
larger amounts of CS conflicting with her herbs and chinese 
medicines, or rather, her practitioner is concerned, and she would 
like info to reassure him, as well as educate herself.  Her viral 
load is over 12 million, type 1A.



Hi Kathryn -

There are no contraindications with silver, that I know of.  It goes 
with everything, except bacteria, viruses and germs.  [grin]   I had 
600,000 copies of Hep C in the latter part of 2000, although I don't 
remember which type.  The doctor I saw told me I was worse-off than 
any of her other patients with Hep C at that point, so I can't imagine 
what your friend is going through with a whopping 12 million copies.  
I guess I had it good.
I started on Mesosilver, taking 1 tablespoon 3 times a day, and then 
went on to making my own EIS with a Silver Puppy generator (from Ode), 
and took more.  If she treats herself with EIS (instead of CS such as 
Mesosilver), she will have to dose often and more at a time, but it 
will still work.  Silver is silver, whether it's EIS or CS, all she 
has to do is to take more if dosing with EIS (what we make at home).
I was also later told to take Alpha-lipoic Acid (600 mg. per day), 
Selenium (400 mcg. per day), MGN-3 (from mushrooms, I believe) and 
Vitamin C, and did so, and my symptoms (yellow skin and a swollen 
abdomen) disappeared very quickly and never returned.

I hope this helps.
Jodi


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CS>'Health" Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
See:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/2007/2007_115_e.html

So it begins here in Canada


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Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought

2007-10-12 Thread Clayton Family
That is so interesting. I have heard that they can take part of 
someone's liver and give it to someone else, and the liver grows back 
to a normal size. It does not become the same as before, but the part 
that is left will grow bigger to compensate.


Thanks so much, Mary. I am forwarding the replies.

Kathryn

On Oct 12, 2007, at 8:38 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote:


I took nothing else as I did not know of silver as it was 33 yrs ago.
No drugs, the doc said the slow release of sugar repairs the liver, it 
did mine and my friends' liver.  As I stated she lost her whole liver. 
 We did not have hep at the same time.  She went to Hawaii and ate 
something most of the other patrons also ended up with hep.
Mine was related to the surgery, the doc said it was the needle, do 
not know how they can tell, at least it was not cancer.

Mary

-- Original message --
From: Clayton Family 


so, you only sucked on hard candies?  No silver, or other things?

On Oct 11, 2007, at 6:20 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:


I had hep. had a liver bio. lost 1/2 of my liver. doc made me suck on
hard candies for months but it healed the liver and was made whole.
Mary



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Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought

2007-10-12 Thread mborgert
I took nothing else as I did not know of silver as it was 33 yrs ago.
No drugs, the doc said the slow release of sugar repairs the liver, it did mine 
and my friends' liver.  As I stated she lost her whole liver.  We did not have 
hep at the same time.  She went to Hawaii and ate something most of the other 
patrons also ended up with hep.
Mine was related to the surgery, the doc said it was the needle, do not know 
how they can tell, at least it was not cancer.
Mary 

-- Original message --
From: Clayton Family 
>
> so, you only sucked on hard candies?  No silver, or other things?
> 
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 6:20 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
> 
> > I had hep. had a liver bio. lost 1/2 of my liver. doc made me suck on 
> > hard candies for months but it healed the liver and was made whole.
> > Mary
> >
> > -- Original message --
> > From: Clayton Family 
> >>
> >> Dear List,
> >>
> >> I have a good friend that is taking  a little CS for her hep, and 
> >> would
> >> love to have more info. In particular, she is concerned about larger
> 
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Re: CS> cancer/polio vaccine was Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hi Dianne,
   
  The correlation is don't believe any of the nonsense we have been told about 
vaccines. Vaccines are nothing more than population and mind control. Ever 
wonder why there would be such a thing as mercury in a vaccination? I know we 
are told that it is a preservative. Exactly what would it be preserving? 
Certainly isn't doing anything to preserve us. Have you ever heard of the 
Tuskeegee Project? Where they knowingly gave syphilis to a bunch of people just 
to see what would happen to them. The same thing is going on right now on a 
much larger scale. The way they made it cofusing was by having different end 
results by the way they mixed the cocktails. That coupled with the fact that 
everybody has a different geneology will give us each different outcomes.
   
  Kurt

Dianne France  wrote:
Kurt
   
  My Dad was born in 1923 and was given live polio vaccine at age five and 
caught the disease from the live vaccine.  They had a terrible time stopping 
it's progression on one side of his body and it finally stopped just short of 
it's rise to his heart.  His one leg was shriveled and they said he would never 
walk again.  Fortunately my father was an extremely determined individual and 
did walk and competed in some sports.  His one leg was almost two inches 
shorter than the other and due to the times wore out his back because life 
shoes were not available.  During WWII he tried to enlist three times before 
being accepted and was a control tower operator.  
   
  Long story short he fought cancer hard since 1981 surviving many different 
forms.  He lost part of a lung to one type, part of his back to another, and 
part of an ear to yet another form.  He finally was unsuccessful in his last 
fight and died two years ago to a flat blonde mole that was cancerous.  What 
you said about vaccines and cancers had never connected in my mind.  Is there 
more correlation between live vaccine and cancer than there is with the 
supposed dead vaccine they give today?  
   
  Dianne 
- Original Message - 
  From: Kurt Milkowski 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:27 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?
  

  Hey Pat,
   
  Believe that lie and they'll tell you another one. Polio was on the decline 
before they started sticking people with the needles. Actually there was a 
spike in polio cases caused by the vaccines. That lie just paved the way for 
the kooks to get people to line up for shots. When you really investigate, the 
polio vaccine is the underlying cause of cancer! Unfortunately people are 
similar to mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us all kinds of bullshit and 
watch us grow.The only thing that can now or ever could cure you of a disease 
is your God given immune system. We have to stop believing the fairytales we 
have been told and do our best to wake the other mushrooms.
   
  Kurt

Pat  wrote:
DIV {   MARGIN: 0px  }I don't know if it's the same now, but years 
ago when I worked at the hospital (dietary technician), all employees were 
required to have a yearly chest x-ray and a TB test.  I had a positive TB test 
but always wondered if it was because of the rough way the employee nurse 
jammed the needle in.  Then I was required to take isoniazid for a year (which 
is reasonable, I guess).  I got sick about six weeks later and the doctor said 
it was hepatitis from the drug.  I stopped it a few weeks and when I started 
back, it didn't make me sick again.  I suppose if I'd refused the chest x-ray 
and TB test, I'd have been terminated.  Of course, that's a whole different 
matter than the flu.

There aren't many vaccines I would take nowdays, but back in the day, I suppose 
smallpox and polio vaccines were useful.  You don't see crippled people nowdays 
like there used to be from polio.  The rabies vaccine is effective, isn't it?  


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Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought/Mary

2007-10-12 Thread mborgert
I do not know!!!
I was told to do this by the doc and I did.  He gave me no drugs what so ever. 
Not many different kinds of hard candies out there 33 yrs ago I remember I 
sucked on a lot of horehound candies. yuck.
MARY

-- Original message --
From: "Carl Deb Charter" 
>
> Mary...how did sucking on hard candies for months heal your live and make it 
> whole again??? Thanks in advance!!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Clayton Family" 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought
> 
> 
> > so, you only sucked on hard candies?  No silver, or other things?
> >
> > On Oct 11, 2007, at 6:20 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
> >
> >> I had hep. had a liver bio. lost 1/2 of my liver. doc made me suck on 
> >> hard candies for months but it healed the liver and was made whole.
> >> Mary
> >>
> >> -- Original message --
> >> From: Clayton Family 
> >>>
> >>> Dear List,
> >>>
> >>> I have a good friend that is taking  a little CS for her hep, and would
> >>> love to have more info. In particular, she is concerned about larger
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Paula Perry
Dee, 
There are some vaccinations that used monkeys and cause retro-virus's that 
later turn into cancers,- one being Lymphoma. I know because my husband got it. 
He was in the Army for 22 years. Before they would deploy any where they would 
line the troops up and give them 10 or twelve shots at one time. Probably saves 
the government quite a bit on what they would have to pay out in retirements. 
Paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:29 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?


I seem to remember that it was another vaccine (for something I've 
forgotten) that caused the polio in the first place.  Rather like in animals, a 
vaccine given caused the parvo to jump species from cats to dogs.  Something to 
do with the cultures they were grown on. Brilliant!  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Kurt Milkowski
Date: 10/12/07 12:48:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

Hey Pat,

Believe that lie and they'll tell you another one. Polio was on the 
decline before they started sticking people with the needles. Actually there 
was a spike in polio cases caused by the vaccines. That lie just paved the way 
for the kooks to get people to line up for shots. When you really investigate, 
the polio vaccine is the underlying cause of cancer! Unfortunately people are 
similar to mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us all kinds of bullshit and 
watch us grow.The only thing that can now or ever could cure you of a disease 
is your God given immune system. We have to stop believing the fairytales we 
have been told and do our best to wake the other mushrooms.

Kurt

   
  
   


CS>Forced Anthrax vaccines - NOT... WAS: Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Simon Jester

Sorry - I see no reference to any law requiring anyone to get a vaccine.

You'll have to be precise - I have no intention of spending days reading 
all of your blog entries to try to find one.



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Simon Jester  wrote:

> I'd have to point out that the national anthrax vaccine is 
mandatory.


More bullshit... I haven't taken it, and never will.

> See my blog for more research on that one...

A link might actually result in someone reading it...





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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Dee
I had heard of someone who actually caught rabies from the vaccine though. 
Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Simon Jester
Date: 12/10/2007 12:52:10
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?
 
 
How would you or anyone know? How would you test it? I have no desire
to... besides, it is easily treated now, so no need for the *always*
questionable vaccine...
 
 
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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Dee
I seem to remember that it was another vaccine (for something I've
forgotten) that caused the polio in the first place.  Rather like in animals
 a vaccine given caused the parvo to jump species from cats to dogs. 
Something to do with the cultures they were grown on. Brilliant!  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Kurt Milkowski
Date: 10/12/07 12:48:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?
 
Hey Pat,
 
Believe that lie and they'll tell you another one. Polio was on the decline
before they started sticking people with the needles. Actually there was a
spike in polio cases caused by the vaccines. That lie just paved the way for
the kooks to get people to line up for shots. When you really investigate,
the polio vaccine is the underlying cause of cancer! Unfortunately people
are similar to mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us all kinds of
bullshit and watch us grow.The only thing that can now or ever could cure
you of a disease is your God given immune system. We have to stop believing
the fairytales we have been told and do our best to wake the other mushrooms

 
Kurt

Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Hanneke



Hi Pat,
In spite of what we are led to believe, polio vaccines are certainly not
without risks (if not even causing polio!).
Oct 5, 3:55 PM EDT 
Officials Say Drug Caused Nigeria Polio 
By MARIA CHENG 
AP Medical Writer

LONDON (AP) -- A polio outbreak in Nigeria was caused by the vaccine
designed to stop it, international health officials say, leaving at least
69 children paralyzed.
It is a frightening paradox in a part of the world that already distrusts
western vaccines, making it even tougher to stamp out age-old
diseases.
The outbreak was caused by the live polio virus that is used in vaccines
given orally - the preferred method in developing countries because it is
cheaper and doesn't require medical training to dispense.
(for whole article see link below)

http://tinyurl.com/ys3nm4 
At 09:40 AM 12/10/2007, you wrote:
There aren't many vaccines I
would take nowdays, but back in the day, I suppose smallpox and polio
vaccines were useful.  You don't see crippled people nowdays like
there used to be from polio.  The rabies vaccine is effective, isn't
it?  



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RE: CS>Hepatitis advice sought

2007-10-12 Thread bob Larson
...c'mon!!!
please elaborate.

> -Original Message-
> From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:20 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought
> 
> 
> I had hep. had a liver bio. lost 1/2 of my liver. doc made me 
> suck on hard candies for months but it healed the liver and was 
> made whole.
> Mary 
> 


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RE: CS>Hepatitis advice sought

2007-10-12 Thread bob Larson
hi...

never any signs of argyria...so far, so good.
tests prior to 7/06 only indicated alt/ast, no viral load and genotype
wasn't determined.  the 7/06 test is where i requested the bug count and
genotype determination.  i declined to have a biopsy since they're pretty
unreliable and have their own small but real danger of causing cancer to get
loose into the body if it hits on some.  this is with the VA.
i started the CS in early september '06

it wasn't really hard to quit tobacco, except i didn't really want to since
that was my main remaining pleasure in life.  i only smoked imported
handmade cigars, and cheaper ones made from the scrap from the handrollers
trimmings.  no american tobacco co. drug additives.  didn't inhale but
chewed on them a lot yum yum.  they were effecting my mouth and throat
pretty bad.  a Sota mag pulser and microcurrents seem to really help the
whole neck are recover.  i think i'd gotten into a early cancer situation.
they no longer appeal to me.  i used a beck/Sota brain tuner quite a bit
too...can't really say it did anything, but well might've... no strong
craves at all.

yeah, raw foods are where it's at!

> -Original Message-
> From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:37 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Hepatitis advice sought
>
>
> Thanks Bob, that is very helpful.   Have you had any problem with
> argyria, or even blue fingernail moons? I am assuming not, but want to
> ask to be thorough.  Also, how high was your viral load or did you
> know?  It sounds like you have been taking it for over a year.
>
> Congratulations on giving up tobacco, and getting your diet improved.
> Just that can be a great help in taking a load off the body. Good for
> you!
>
> Kathryn
>
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 6:54 PM, bob Larson wrote:
>
> > i'm also type 1a, and last summer was symptomatic to the point of
> > having to
> > do something just to keep on keeping on.  i started right off by
> > buying a CS
> > generator, since i got one cheap on ebay and had faith i could at least
> > resell it.  started out with 4-6oz/day divided into 3-4 shots, at about
> > 14ppm (as measured with a cheap TDS meter).  major huge turnaround in
> > 24
> > hours, but didn't last...symptoms came back but not as bad, but
> > progressively better for a month at which time i felt reborn.
> > other problems also cleared up over the next several months, like gum
> > disease and toenail fungus (almost).
> > i started making it at twice the strength and taking half the qty at 2
> > shots/day...and that turned out to be a mistake.  symptoms started
> > showing
> > themselves very slightly again after awhile, and where the toenail
> > fungus
> > only had 1/8" to finish growing out clean, it started coming in
> > discolored
> > again from the base on both big toes.
> > so at about the 6 month point i started making it stronger yet, and
> > doing
> > 6-8oz/day, divided into 3-4 shots.  by this time i had accumulated Beck
> > Protocol tools which i use sporadically.  i'd also accumulated various
> > herbs
> > per stephen buhner's "herbs for hep-c and the liver" and had revamped
> > my
> > diet a lot, and started doing the herbs and other supps regularly.
> > this seems to have me back on top of the virus, but still not feeling
> > as
> > amazingly well as last fall.  the toenail fungus is again almost all
> > grown
> > out, gums are great, and my eyes have turned almost pure blue.  in
> > july my
> > viral load was 1.3 million, and alt & ast were still above
> > normal...also AFP
> > has gone above normal, and while that's a cancer indicator it also
> > happens
> > with smokers and can coincide with treatments being effective
> > according to
> > something i read on the web...in june i quit tobacco, so at the time
> > of the
> > blood test i was probably still purging that.
> >
> > also this spring i started adding in Tetrasilver Tetroxide at about
> > 10ppm.
> > i have no way of knowing if the HCV has become wise to the CS and the
> > control i now get may be due to the TT and herbs.  i have no way of
> > knowing
> > if the herbs and either/both the CS & TT are mutually beneficial,
> > cancelling, detrimental, or no effect.
> >
> > if i had it to do over, i'd start the CS at 8oz/day, at least 25ppm,
> > and
> > keep it up steady.  i'd also start right off juicing raw organic
> > fruits &
> > veggies, esp carrots and beets, daily and do plenty of chlorella,
> > spirulina,
> > C, E, selenium, MSM as they're all great supps and are the base of the
> > argyria cure case posted on the web, so they should be a good idea to
> > help
> > keep the silver moving on through and not accumulating in tissues.
> >
> > last week i've added in the MMS chlorine dioxide and am up to 15 drops
> > several times daily, timed from 8pm to 6 am so i can take all my high
> > C and
> > antioxidant foods and supps during the day without neutralizing the
> > MMS.
> > too soon to tell w

CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Simon Jester
There aren't many vaccines I would take nowdays, but back in the day, 
I suppose smallpox and polio vaccines were useful.


No - pure propaganda/myth.


You don't see crippled people nowdays like there used to be from
polio.


The fact is, the incidence of polio was already on the downswing when 
the vaccine was introduced... see here:


http://www.vaclib.org/basic/polio.htm

> The rabies vaccine is effective, isn't it?

How would you or anyone know? How would you test it? I have no desire 
to... besides, it is easily treated now, so no need for the *always* 
questionable vaccine...



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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hey Pat,
   
  Believe that lie and they'll tell you another one. Polio was on the decline 
before they started sticking people with the needles. Actually there was a 
spike in polio cases caused by the vaccines. That lie just paved the way for 
the kooks to get people to line up for shots. When you really investigate, the 
polio vaccine is the underlying cause of cancer! Unfortunately people are 
similar to mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us all kinds of bullshit and 
watch us grow.The only thing that can now or ever could cure you of a disease 
is your God given immune system. We have to stop believing the fairytales we 
have been told and do our best to wake the other mushrooms.
   
  Kurt

Pat  wrote:
  I don't know if it's the same now, but years ago when I worked at the 
hospital (dietary technician), all employees were required to have a yearly 
chest x-ray and a TB test.  I had a positive TB test but always wondered if it 
was because of the rough way the employee nurse jammed the needle in.  Then I 
was required to take isoniazid for a year (which is reasonable, I guess).  I 
got sick about six weeks later and the doctor said it was hepatitis from the 
drug.  I stopped it a few weeks and when I started back, it didn't make me sick 
again.  I suppose if I'd refused the chest x-ray and TB test, I'd have been 
terminated.  Of course, that's a whole different matter than the flu.

There aren't many vaccines I would take nowdays, but back in the day, I suppose 
smallpox and polio vaccines were useful.  You don't see crippled people nowdays 
like there used to be from polio.  The rabies vaccine is effective, isn't it?  


Pat



  
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Re: CS> cancer/polio vaccine was Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Dianne France
Kurt

My Dad was born in 1923 and was given live polio vaccine at age five and caught 
the disease from the live vaccine.  They had a terrible time stopping it's 
progression on one side of his body and it finally stopped just short of it's 
rise to his heart.  His one leg was shriveled and they said he would never walk 
again.  Fortunately my father was an extremely determined individual and did 
walk and competed in some sports.  His one leg was almost two inches shorter 
than the other and due to the times wore out his back because life shoes were 
not available.  During WWII he tried to enlist three times before being 
accepted and was a control tower operator.  

Long story short he fought cancer hard since 1981 surviving many different 
forms.  He lost part of a lung to one type, part of his back to another, and 
part of an ear to yet another form.  He finally was unsuccessful in his last 
fight and died two years ago to a flat blonde mole that was cancerous.  What 
you said about vaccines and cancers had never connected in my mind.  Is there 
more correlation between live vaccine and cancer than there is with the 
supposed dead vaccine they give today?  

Dianne 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kurt Milkowski 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:27 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?


  Hey Pat,

  Believe that lie and they'll tell you another one. Polio was on the decline 
before they started sticking people with the needles. Actually there was a 
spike in polio cases caused by the vaccines. That lie just paved the way for 
the kooks to get people to line up for shots. When you really investigate, the 
polio vaccine is the underlying cause of cancer! Unfortunately people are 
similar to mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us all kinds of bullshit and 
watch us grow.The only thing that can now or ever could cure you of a disease 
is your God given immune system. We have to stop believing the fairytales we 
have been told and do our best to wake the other mushrooms.

  Kurt

  Pat  wrote:
I don't know if it's the same now, but years ago when I worked at the 
hospital (dietary technician), all employees were required to have a yearly 
chest x-ray and a TB test.  I had a positive TB test but always wondered if it 
was because of the rough way the employee nurse jammed the needle in.  Then I 
was required to take isoniazid for a year (which is reasonable, I guess).  I 
got sick about six weeks later and the doctor said it was hepatitis from the 
drug.  I stopped it a few weeks and when I started back, it didn't make me sick 
again.  I suppose if I'd refused the chest x-ray and TB test, I'd have been 
terminated.  Of course, that's a whole different matter than the flu.

There aren't many vaccines I would take nowdays, but back in the day, I 
suppose smallpox and polio vaccines were useful.  You don't see crippled people 
nowdays like there used to be from polio.  The rabies vaccine is effective, 
isn't it?  


Pat




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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hey Pat,
   
  Believe that lie and they'll tell you another one. Polio was on the decline 
before they started sticking people with the needles. Actually there was a 
spike in polio cases caused by the vaccines. That lie just paved the way for 
the kooks to get people to line up for shots. When you really investigate, the 
polio vaccine is the underlying cause of cancer! Unfortunately people are 
similar to mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us all kinds of bullshit and 
watch us grow.The only thing that can now or ever could cure you of a disease 
is your God given immune system. We have to stop believing the fairytales we 
have been told and do our best to wake the other mushrooms.
   
  Kurt

Pat  wrote:
  I don't know if it's the same now, but years ago when I worked at the 
hospital (dietary technician), all employees were required to have a yearly 
chest x-ray and a TB test.  I had a positive TB test but always wondered if it 
was because of the rough way the employee nurse jammed the needle in.  Then I 
was required to take isoniazid for a year (which is reasonable, I guess).  I 
got sick about six weeks later and the doctor said it was hepatitis from the 
drug.  I stopped it a few weeks and when I started back, it didn't make me sick 
again.  I suppose if I'd refused the chest x-ray and TB test, I'd have been 
terminated.  Of course, that's a whole different matter than the flu.

There aren't many vaccines I would take nowdays, but back in the day, I suppose 
smallpox and polio vaccines were useful.  You don't see crippled people nowdays 
like there used to be from polio.  The rabies vaccine is effective, isn't it?  


Pat



  
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Re: CS>Herbal Healer Academy CS, was Re: CS>Crohn's Disease

2007-10-12 Thread Paula Perry
Hi sol,
That message below was mixed-up. I'm not sure where is came from. I've been
making my own CS for a long time.
Paula
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From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: CS>Herbal Healer Academy CS, was Re: CS>Crohn's Disease


> I hope you have read the analysis of HHA "CS" at
> http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html#CompTable
> also follow the link to the info on silver protein products in general
>
> I feel sure you have already long ago read all that, but thought I'd
> mention it again, just in case.
> sol
>
> Paula Perry wrote:
>
> > Thanks Nancy,
> > I gave her some of the CS I have and told her about making it. I think
> > you are right. I need to buy a CS maker myself. I spent 150.00 on a
> > quart of CS from Herbal Healer Academy when I knew less about CS than
> > I do now.
> > Paula
>
>
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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Michael Zangari
I don't know Teri. Good question. The trails of the Isralie Army and US marines 
in Hawaii have been problematic.
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Teri  wrote:
  At 01:41 PM 10/11/2007, you wrote:
  I'd have to point out that the national anthrax vaccine is mandatory.
See my blog for more research on that one...
 
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What if you are allergic to something in the vaccine  I'll be damned if I 
won't shot someone who tries to kill me with a vaccine.

Teri

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Re: CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Michael Zangari

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Simon Jester  wrote:   > I'd have to point out that 
the national anthrax vaccine is mandatory.

More bullshit... I haven't taken it, and never will.

> See my blog for more research on that one...

A link might actually result in someone reading it...


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Re: CS>Access

2007-10-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Dee writes:
> Hi Mike, I can't access the homepage.  Is there something wrong with the
> site or do you think its something to do with my computer?  Thanks.

I can't either, ma'am. Eskimo is up, as is my other web pages there, so 
there must be a problem with the silverlist.org domain. I'll get in 
touch with tech support. Thanks for the heads-up!

Be well,

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CS>Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-12 Thread Simon Jester

I'd have to point out that the national anthrax vaccine is mandatory.


More bullshit... I haven't taken it, and never will.


See my blog for more research on that one...


A link might actually result in someone reading it...


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CS>Access

2007-10-12 Thread Dee
Hi Mike, I can't access the homepage.  Is there something wrong with the site 
or do you think its something to do with my computer?  Thanks.  Dee 

RE: CS>Ruth

2007-10-12 Thread Dee
I think magnesium chloride is the form the body turns the different forms
into Mary, but if you buy mag citrate I think this is the easiest form for
the body to use and convert.  Magnesium oxide which is in most proprietary
brands, is the *least* available form.  With products made for indigestion,
you have to be careful that they don't contain aluminium. Hope this helps. 
Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: ruth strackbein
Date: 10/12/07 03:59:18
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Ruth
 
 MMy chiropractor says the Milk of magnesia from Philips is probably the
best of the drugstore variety, unless I would use a truly chelated variety. 
The kinds of chelated magnesium found in chain stores and drugstores usually
isn't really chelated.  I forget all he said about that.  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein