CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2008 #32

[doni0210]

As a "Newbie" I am being a bit conused by some of the initials I am seeing 
here.? I know what CS is.? Can someone tell me what is MSM, MMS, and AMMS and 
what are the differences?? Or at least point me in a direction to get some 
fairly reliable information?



Thanks,

Doni


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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Tad Winiecki]

Oh no!  I thought I was still posting on the OT forum, I wasn't paying 
enough attention to the subject line.  Major apologies,  Dee, Faith, 
and Kirsteen.  If anyone wants to discuss this more I will do so on the 
OT list.  Sorry for offending you  CS would come in really handy in 
those bad scenarios


Thanks for the humor, Wayne.:-)

Nancy
666-6667 The wrong number of the beast


On Jan 15, 2008, at 1:13 AM, Wayne Fugitt wrote:


 The Beast (Anti-Christ), the False Prophet, and the Dragon (Satan).

I see a lot of people that I think are the Beast.



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CS>MMS hoax or cure? In the Brain or NOT ?

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Carol Ann,

>> At 10:52 PM 1/15/2008, you wrote:

the brain blood barrier.
 I am suspecting, that MMS does make the transfer because of the many 
reports stating the general feeling of well being, some bordering on euphoria.


  Lots of ways that could happen without it getting into the brain.

  I don't believe it gets into my brain, in any shape, form or fashion.

  Reason being, ... I would know it if it does.

Nothing in the body is controlled to the degree as the brain 
chemistry.  Many things will not be used by the brain,

 unless they are made in the brain.

The brain knows exactly what it needs, and generally that is all it 
tolerates.   The brain has functioned thousands of years without some of 
these foreign chemicals and things we dump into our bodies.


Of course I know my brain better than many people do.
I have seen it do amazing things, that amazed even me.

I have witnessed it do searches much like a fast computer searches a huge 
indexed database.  It all happened in a second, or maybe less, . 
and came up with the exact right answer.  Yes, I used the answer on the 
spot to solve a technical problem.


I stood there and thought,  "What is the world is happening" ?
Also, have seen it remember a complete chess game and a relatively complex 
programs and schedules,  this amazed me also.
( this was without any effort on my part, did not intend to do it, did not 
even want to remember it )

The key is having many Domains created in the brain.

The brain can function after many hours without sleep, 24, 36, 40, and 
more.  This is determined by energy, electrolytes, minerals, and other 
things, often beyond our normal control.


One does not have to be a genius to have a highly functional brain.  Often 
one with much lower intelligence can outperform one with a much higher 
intelligence.


I have seen this happen many times.

A country boy that did not finish high school can beat the socks off a 
college graduate on the IBM logic test. I have seen it happen too many times.


Intelligence does not guarantee a highly functional brain.

I could tell lots of stories about the historical Chess  Masters of the past.

Consider this, . one great chess master after playing chess for a 
relatively short time.


could play,

Ten boards of Chess on the right,  Ten boards of checkers on the left, 
 behind him not seeing the boards, while playing a perfect hand of 
bridge at the same time.


Take a lunch break, and he could call up all board to the current position, 
... from memory.


Was that Brain Function or What ?

I have studied Brain Nutrients a bit also.  Feed the critter right and it 
will reward you in amazing ways.


As I get older, the response time a little slower.  Can't tell you the 
exact mili seconds, I wish I could.


Wayne

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Re: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing

[Clayton Family]

that IS a good point. It makes sense. I don't have a nebulizer, but 
just use a spray. It is a pain in the neck to try to inhale it that 
way, so I don't do it very often.  My dear hubby has taken to having a 
shotglass of cs in the evening, and when he caught a cold, he coughed 
and hacked about 1/2 hour afterwards, and then for a couple of hours. I 
convinced him to  have his shot in the daytime, so he would not be kept 
awake, which seemed to work.  I also use cs only, and do not use dmso. 
It might be good, but I have not found it necessary so far, and it does 
make me a little nervous, it being such a good solvent and all.


kathryn

On Jan 15, 2008, at 3:48 PM, M. G. Devour wrote:


Kaye writes:


I FELT COMPELLED TO RAISE A FLAG OF POTENTIAL BODILY HARM USING DMSO
FOR NEBULIZING

If you are a smoker you would not want to use DMSO to nebulize would
you?

Please correct me if I my understanding is off but the DMSO would 
drive

the toxins from the lungs (from smoking) deeper into surrounding
tissues,  would it not?


Kayedoe makes a very good point here...

Does anyone else remember a post, I *think* it was by Jason, about
nebulizing very dilute hydrogen peroxide? A friend of his who smoked
wanted to try it... and the guy just about killed himself due to the
sudden mobilization of nicotine in the lungs... It only took one hit on
the nebulizer for him to almost suffocate.

I agree that you should research use of DMSO in nebulizing before
attempting it, especially if you're a smoker or are dealing with other
inhaled matter that might be lodged in the lungs. There are several
places on the 'net where they would probably have info about this.

Anyone else?

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing

[Clayton Family]

na uh, dmso will even take dirt into the skin, if it is on there first. 
It is a solvent. It might kill viruses, though, dunno about that.


On Jan 15, 2008, at 10:32 PM, sol wrote:

It depends on the molecular size of the various smoke residues in the 
lungs. DMSO will not transport anything over a certain molecular size 
(wt? I may not be using the correct term). I forget what that size 
limit is but viruses are too large to be transported by DMSO so that 
might give you an idea.
See info at www.jacoblab.com for details on molecular size of what 
DMSO can transport into tissues. I don't know where to get info on 
molecular wts of smoke toxins.


Interesting point to raise though, as it is something I never even 
think of, as I live smoke free.

sol

kayedoe wrote:

I FELT COMPELLED TO RAISE A FLAG OF POTENTIAL BODILY HARM USING DMSO
FOR NEBULIZING

If you are a smoker you would not want to use DMSO to nebulize would 
you?


Please correct me if I my understanding is off but the DMSO would
drive the toxins from the lungs (from smoking) deeper into surrounding
tissues,  would it not?




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Re: CS>Dr. Carley on ADHD

[Clayton Family]

Well, actually,

the latest news on that front is on the toxin side of things- kids 
suffer ADHD symptoms from mold exposure, due to toxic 
neuroencephalopathy.  There may well be other toxins that do the same 
things.



On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote:




chrisgu...@alumni. uwaterloo. ca wrote:

"ADD & ADHD are primarily a result of vaccinations"
Further to: Vaccines Often The Cause of "Multiple Sclerosis & Other 
DEMYELINATING Diseases" here is another excellent response to junk 
health PBS programs of late.
"All are sponsored by the same cabal* who brought you this disease 
via the nutrient depleted, addictive and toxic chemical added 
processed foods; surgeries; and last but not least the supposed magic 
of generally toxic vaccines and drugs."
Extracted from: PBS' Hidden Epidemic: Heart Disease in America - More 
Pabulum For The Masses

Chris Gupta
http://tinyurl. com/4ulxd



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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans....OT

[Clayton Family]

Always a pleasure, Mike!

On Jan 15, 2008, at 3:30 PM, M. G. Devour wrote:


replying to off topic list...


Thank you very much, folks! 

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>Recreational Drugs far less likely to Kill you than Precribed Drugs

[Clayton Family]

well, maybe for you, but every medication I have ever had to use has  
had side effects, and sometimes it led to severe long term side effects  
that probably would not have been as much of a problem if I had not  
taken them. In other cases, they have saved my life, so it is a  
risk/benefit assessment we all have to do.


My kids learned in high school that even moderate marijuana use has  
some pretty severe long term side effects on the brain and on brain  
deveopment (which I could attest to in many people I saw fall by the  
wayside, having seen the late 60's and 70's). I personally knew several  
people that died from drug use (and I include alcohol as a drug), not  
counting famous people. Death is a pretty extreme measure of  
impairment, so I reject the headline out of hand. If you count all the  
death caused  just by driving drunk, it might even surpass the medical  
figures.


well, anyway, that is my point of view, it is not a common one, most  
people and even drs discount which ever drug/alcohol/ bad habit they  
use or indulge in, saying it is not as bad as other things. I used to  
see drs that said that smoking in moderation was not likely to hurt  
much, and if it did become a problem, well, you could just quit.  I  
agree that you can just quit without any help at all. In fact, nearly  
everyone I grew up with smoked, and they ALL quit without anyone else's  
help.  The drug companies just want people to believe they are helpless  
so they can sell more ...  drugs!


off my soapbox for now,

kathryn

On Jan 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Richard wrote:


everything in moderation , surely !



On 15/01/2008, at 19:20, Clayton Family wrote:

ALL drugs are bad for your health, and should only be used when  
absolutely necessary.



On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:32 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/1/15/ 
recreational-drugs-far-less-likely-to-kill-you-than-prescribed- 
drugs.aspx





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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Carol Ann]

I wish there was more info available re  MMS and the brain blood barrier.  I am 
suspecting, that MMS does make the transfer because of the many reports stating 
the general feeling of well being, some bordering on euphoria. This intimates 
neurotransmitter - endorphin stimulation of some sort. 

sol  wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote:
> There is certainly a lot of overlap between the two.  But there are a 
> couple of things the AMMS might do better than CS. First is kill 
> parasites, normally CS has no affect on them at all.   Also there are 
> areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS has trouble, such as 
> nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the lymph system.
>
Marshall,
   How does MMS get into those places? What is the mechanism?
sol


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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[sol]

Marshall Dudley wrote:
Are you sure?  The lymph system is used to clear out toxins and 
infective agents, and once they are transported to the nodes, they can 
swell.  Although sometimes the nodes themselves can be the source of 
infection, usually they are responding to an infection elsewhere. Get 
rid of the main infection and the nodes will recover by themselves, 
without any outside help.


According to Bob Beck, CS does not make it into the nodes, and it 
requires the magnetic pulser to get anything that has set up in them.


But, Beck was writing about oral dosing of CS right? Topical CS with 
DMSO should get to lymph nodes just fine. Unless of course they are 
somewhere you can't put even 10% DMSO without too much discomfort.

sol


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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[sol]

Yes, I've read that too. And I forgot to mention in my post to Marshall 
that with use of DMSO to transport the CS it can get to cartilage, 
lymph, etc.
Parasites, that is different.  I've never read that CS affects 
multicelled parasites.

sol

Clayton Family wrote:
CS also gets to the brain, according to something I read awhile back. 
It was in a critical article on the so called dangers.



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Re: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing

[sol]

It depends on the molecular size of the various smoke residues in the 
lungs. DMSO will not transport anything over a certain molecular size 
(wt? I may not be using the correct term). I forget what that size limit 
is but viruses are too large to be transported by DMSO so that might 
give you an idea.
See info at www.jacoblab.com for details on molecular size of what DMSO 
can transport into tissues. I don't know where to get info on molecular 
wts of smoke toxins.


Interesting point to raise though, as it is something I never even think 
of, as I live smoke free.

sol

kayedoe wrote:

I FELT COMPELLED TO RAISE A FLAG OF POTENTIAL BODILY HARM USING DMSO
FOR NEBULIZING

If you are a smoker you would not want to use DMSO to nebulize would you?

Please correct me if I my understanding is off but the DMSO would
drive the toxins from the lungs (from smoking) deeper into surrounding
tissues,  would it not?
  



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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[sol]

Marshall Dudley wrote:
There is certainly a lot of overlap between the two.  But there are a 
couple of things the AMMS might do better than CS. First is kill 
parasites, normally CS has no affect on them at all.   Also there are 
areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS has trouble, such as 
nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the lymph system.



Marshall,
  How does MMS get into those places? What is the mechanism?
sol


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Re: CS>Chlorine Dioxide Toxic?

[sol]

Actually I never wrote that. It was posted in a reply to me, by someone 
else.

sol

Levi Philos wrote:
Sol posts: "I understand it is SO TOXIC, it cannot even be shipped, 
and must be manufactured where it is used."



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Re: CS>SomalifeGHP

[sol]

Yes, this one is fine. I don't really want you to have to change your 
settings just for me though. I want to find out what I can do at my end 
to fix MY problem, LOL. I didn't mean to say this was YOUR problem, but 
I thought if I knwe what format you were using that my 'puter can't 
handle, I could figure out how to change m y settings to cope.

sol

Dee wrote:

Sorry about that Sol, my Incredimail had somehow got off the plain text
setting (!) I have set it back, so let me know if it is ok on this reply.
Dee 

---Original Message--- 

 




 

What format do you send emails in Dee? I can't crop your text, and when 

I try to delete to shorten my answer 

My cursor goes wonky, and I can't edit my own text, or place the cursor 

Where I want it. To fix this I have to shut down my computer and reboot 

It. Any ideas why this happens? 

Sol 

 



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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[sol]

leslie1053 wrote:
All I have heard is that it is supposed to cure cancer?? CS doesn't do 
that as far as I know. I love CS but it does have a few limitations. I 
do good just to make the CS.

Actually there are many reports of CS curing cancer.
sol


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Re: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing

[M. G. Devour]

Kaye writes:

> I FELT COMPELLED TO RAISE A FLAG OF POTENTIAL BODILY HARM USING DMSO
> FOR NEBULIZING 
> 
> If you are a smoker you would not want to use DMSO to nebulize would
> you? 
> 
> Please correct me if I my understanding is off but the DMSO would drive
> the toxins from the lungs (from smoking) deeper into surrounding
> tissues,  would it not? 

Kayedoe makes a very good point here... 

Does anyone else remember a post, I *think* it was by Jason, about 
nebulizing very dilute hydrogen peroxide? A friend of his who smoked 
wanted to try it... and the guy just about killed himself due to the 
sudden mobilization of nicotine in the lungs... It only took one hit on 
the nebulizer for him to almost suffocate.

I agree that you should research use of DMSO in nebulizing before 
attempting it, especially if you're a smoker or are dealing with other 
inhaled matter that might be lodged in the lungs. There are several 
places on the 'net where they would probably have info about this.

Anyone else?

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans....OT

[M. G. Devour]

> replying to off topic list...

Thank you very much, folks! 

Mike D.
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CS>Chlorine Dioxide, No Hazardous Classification as per DOT, and cannot be shipped as a GAS.

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Levi,

I went back and read  my message.

At 09:20 AM 1/15/2008, you wrote:

Sol posts: "I understand it is SO TOXIC, it cannot even be shipped, and 
must be manufactured where it is used."

  The mailers fool us, and cause us to say the wrong person posted something.

I  posted that.


Incorrect presumptions and statement.
Sodium Chlorite as a dry powder or flakes can be shipped but is a 
hazardous material.


  I think you misunderstood my message.  I certainly was not talking about 
Sodium Chlorite.


Here it is again...

Just how many people in the world have taken MMS with zero problems from 
the chlorine.  Actually, it is Chlorine Dioxide, as you should know.
Of course it may be Toxic in specific concentrations and will kill man and 
beast.
I understand it is SO TOXIC, it cannot even be shipped, and must be 
manufactured where it is used.

===

It appears simple enough to me.

And. Chlorine Dioxide is a Gas.

A compounded form can be shipped,  but, .. again
this is not Chlorine Dioxide,  and I do not believe any provisions or 
regulations allow it to be shipped.


The compounded version is a Foam, and it must be frozen to be 
shipped.  Maintained at 30 deg Maximum.


Where did you find anything that says Chlorine Dioxide Gas can be shipped ?

The cost if shipping the foam is likely so expensive that virtually none is 
shipped.  It is made on site where it is to be used.  Some may be shipped, 
if one is willing to bear the cost.



Further, Chlorine Dioxide does not even have a hazardous classification, as 
per DOT.  ( that means BAD NEWS )


They also say,  It cannot be shipped as a Gas,

Which is what I said.

Wayne




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RE: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Gwlynda and David Irek]

Please correct me if I am wrongCS does not kill parasites - MMS does
kill parasites. Should I be giving my dogs MMS for parasites and CS for
bacteria, fungus and yeast?

Gwlynda Irek, Country Ridge Bulldogs
Educational Program Coordinator
www.crbulldog.com
 
Members of:
Bulldog Club of America
Lone Star Bulldog Club
 
Nothing new will come into your life unless you are grateful for what you
have.. 

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

sol wrote:
> What exactly do you feel the MMS does that CS cannot do? This is where 
> I don't quite get it.
> I read of people using it for many things that CS or CS/DMSO take care 
> of perfectly well. Why would I use MMS in preference to CS?

There is certainly a lot of overlap between the two.  But there are a 
couple of things the AMMS might do better than CS. First is kill 
parasites, normally CS has no affect on them at all.   Also there are 
areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS has trouble, such as 
nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the lymph system.

Marshall
>
> sol
>
> His Child wrote:
>>  I'm taking MMS now and have not been able
>> to feel this good in many years.  I slept only 4 hours
>> last night like a baby and did NOT get any tired
>> letdown feeling all the next day.  I've been taking
>> MMS for a couple of weeks now, and it's a powerful (be
>> careful of not overdoing it) but great health aid.
>>
>>   
>
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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Dianne France]

I bought mine out of Canadathe web site was in the book.  I loaned my 
book out so I can't help there.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ernie Patai 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:10 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>MMs hoax or cure?


  Can MMS be bought in Canada?
  If so, is there any recommendation as to where; I live in Toronto.

  Thank you,

  Ernie

  -Original Message-
  From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:07 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

  sol wrote:
  > What exactly do you feel the MMS does that CS cannot do? This is where 
  > I don't quite get it.
  > I read of people using it for many things that CS or CS/DMSO take care 
  > of perfectly well. Why would I use MMS in preference to CS?

  There is certainly a lot of overlap between the two.  But there are a 
  couple of things the AMMS might do better than CS. First is kill 
  parasites, normally CS has no affect on them at all.   Also there are 
  areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS has trouble, such as 
  nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the lymph system

  Marshall
  >
  > sol
  >
  > His Child wrote:
  >>  I'm taking MMS now and have not been able
  >> to feel this good in many years.  I slept only 4 hours
  >> last night like a baby and did NOT get any tired
  >> letdown feeling all the next day.  I've been taking
  >> MMS for a couple of weeks now, and it's a powerful (be
  >> careful of not overdoing it) but great health aid.
  >>
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Re: CS>Dr. Carley's comments to PBS re: Autism, ADHD, Vaccinations...

[Carol Ann]

Umm. Kurt, ya think ya can post this stuff to the OT list?

Kurt Milkowski  wrote:   

chrisgu...@alumni. uwaterloo. ca wrote: 
"ADD & ADHD are primarily a result of vaccinations"
  Further to: Vaccines Often The Cause of "Multiple Sclerosis & Other 
DEMYELINATING Diseases" here is another excellent response to junk health PBS 
programs of late. 
  "All are sponsored by the same cabal* who brought you this disease via the 
nutrient depleted,  addictive and toxic chemical added processed foods; 
surgeries; and last but not least the supposed magic of generally toxic 
vaccines and drugs." 
  Extracted from: PBS' Hidden Epidemic: Heart Disease in America - More Pabulum 
For The Masses
  Chris Gupta
http://tinyurl. com/4ulxd

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Re: CS>Recreational Drugs far less likely to Kill you than Precribed Drugs

[Richard]

everything in moderation , surely !
On 15/01/2008, at 19:20, Clayton Family wrote:

ALL drugs are bad for your health, and should only be used when  
absolutely necessary.



On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:32 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/1/15/ 
recreational-drugs-far-less-likely-to-kill-you-than-prescribed- 
drugs.aspx





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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Marshall Dudley]

Are you sure?  The lymph system is used to clear out toxins and 
infective agents, and once they are transported to the nodes, they can 
swell.  Although sometimes the nodes themselves can be the source of 
infection, usually they are responding to an infection elsewhere. Get 
rid of the main infection and the nodes will recover by themselves, 
without any outside help.


According to Bob Beck, CS does not make it into the nodes, and it 
requires the magnetic pulser to get anything that has set up in them.


Marshall

Dee wrote:
CS cleared a lymph infection that I had.  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 




 

 Also there are 

Areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS has trouble, such as 

Nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the lymph system. 

 

Marshall 

  



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RE: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Ernie Patai]

Can MMS be bought in Canada?
If so, is there any recommendation as to where; I live in Toronto.

Thank you,

Ernie

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:07 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

sol wrote:
> What exactly do you feel the MMS does that CS cannot do? This is where 
> I don't quite get it.
> I read of people using it for many things that CS or CS/DMSO take care 
> of perfectly well. Why would I use MMS in preference to CS?

There is certainly a lot of overlap between the two.  But there are a 
couple of things the AMMS might do better than CS. First is kill 
parasites, normally CS has no affect on them at all.   Also there are 
areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS has trouble, such as 
nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the lymph system.

Marshall
>
> sol
>
> His Child wrote:
>>  I'm taking MMS now and have not been able
>> to feel this good in many years.  I slept only 4 hours
>> last night like a baby and did NOT get any tired
>> letdown feeling all the next day.  I've been taking
>> MMS for a couple of weeks now, and it's a powerful (be
>> careful of not overdoing it) but great health aid.
>>
>>   
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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans....OT

[Clayton Family]

replying to off topic list...

On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


Kirsteen Wright wrote:

On Jan 15, 2008 6:36 AM, Tad Winiecki  wrote:


Just as there is a Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy
Spirit, at some future point there will be an unholy trinity,



Can I just point out that not everyone on this list is Christian. My
gods are not your god. I have no objection to anyone posting their
views on any subject - it's how we learn. I do, however, object to
having religious opinion presented as fact.



Hmm, can you explain that? If there is only one creation, how can 
there be more than one Creator?


Marshall

Kirsteen (servant of Vesta, client of Mars)


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CS>Cleaning a nebulizer

[Gail Naranjo]

Hello All,

I can't remember who asked the question on how to
clean a nebulizer but all I do is wash the little cup
that you put your mixture of CS/MSM in with dish soap
and water, rinse well.  Sometimes I will add a touch
of bleach to the soapy water.  The tubbing is harder
to wash.  The MSM leaves little white spots on it
where the MSM collected to the side of the tubbing.  I
have also tried to wash it in the soapy water and run
water through it, but still can't get all the spots
off.  You usually can get more tubbing at a medical
supply store.  Some will even just give it to you.

Never watch the machine itself, just the tubbing and
cup.

Gail 


  

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Re: CS>[List Owner] End the religious discussion!

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:17:33 -5, M. G. Devour  wrote:
> So let's drop this thread now. Don't respond further. Don't respond to
> anybody who responds before seeing this message. Let it die.

Mega mega apologies for not reading this post first.

sorry
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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Jan 15, 2008 6:17 PM, Marshall Dudley  wrote:
>
>> >
>
> Hmm, can you explain that? If there is only one creation, how can there
> be more than one Creator?

That is always assuming a. - there is a creator at all and b. - we're
all actually in the same creation :-)  some days I'm really not sure
about that ;-)

Kirsteen


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CS>Dr. Carley's comments to PBS re: Autism, ADHD, Vaccinations...

[Kurt Milkowski]

  

chrisgu...@alumni. uwaterloo. ca wrote: 
"ADD & ADHD are primarily a result of vaccinations"
  Further to: Vaccines Often The Cause of "Multiple Sclerosis & Other 
DEMYELINATING Diseases" here is another excellent response to junk health PBS 
programs of late. 
  "All are sponsored by the same cabal* who brought you this disease via the 
nutrient depleted, addictive and toxic chemical added processed foods; 
surgeries; and last but not least the supposed magic of generally toxic 
vaccines and drugs." 
  Extracted from: PBS' Hidden Epidemic: Heart Disease in America - More Pabulum 
For The Masses
  Chris Gupta
http://tinyurl. com/4ulxd

  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Rukshana Engineer
Date: Jan 13, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: VIDS (Vaccine Induced Diseases) Expert, Dr. Carley's comments to PBS 
re. . . .
  Just thought I'd share with you the comments forwarded to PBS by Dr. Carley. 
I'm sure it will be the first time that these researched challenged producers 
have seen the term VIDS!
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: drcar...@gmail. com
To: "Rukshana Engineer" 
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:40:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Thank you for your urgent wake up call to humanity and . . . 
  This is what I sent; let me know if it actually gets posted:
  ADD & ADHD are primarily a result of vaccinations; and the skyrocketing 
number of autoimmune diseases and cancer are also caused by the corruption in 
the immune system caused by direct inoculation of viruses and the tissues on 
which they are cultured as well as a cocktail of harmful chemicals as explained 
in my paper "Inoculations; the true weapons of mass destruction" that can be 
accessed at www.drcarley. com. Obviously, poor nutrition is also directly 
involved in causing hyperactivity; sugar is an addictive drug.
  For young children who have not even developed their brains to be put on 
psychotropic chemicals which purport to treat a "chemical imbalance" is the 
height of lunacy, and exhibit A as to how the pharma cartels continue to poison 
the population. Is ADD due to a Ritalin deficiency? Obviously not.
  The American public is one of the sickest on this planet, with escalating 
chronic disease and death secondary to medical "treatment". There are natural 
solutions to all diseases, which is why our "representatives" in the district 
of criminals have passed Codex legislation, and are incrementally trying to 
make nutritional supplements in therapeutic doses available only by 
prescription. The pharma cartels completely control medical education; and any 
physician who steps out of the box and actually heals people is attacked by 
what has become a medical mafia. 
  Rebecca Carley, MD
Court Qualified expert in VIDS (Vaccine Induced Diseases) 
www.drcarley. com
  Listen to "What's Ailing America?" every Thursday night at 5:00 PM PST (8:00 
PM EST) on www.bbsradio. com; click on "BBS station 2"
  "Inoculations are the true weapons of mass destruction, causing an epidemic 
of genocide" Rebecca Carley, MD Court Qualified Expert in vaccine Induced 
Diseases
  "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so 
monstrous that he cannot believe it exists"
  J Edgar Hoover
FBI Director 
  All TRUTH passes through 3 stages:
1st - it is ridiculed
2nd - it is violently opposed
3rd - it is accepted as SELF EVIDENT
Arthur Schopenhauer
  In a time of universal deceit, telling the TRUTH is a revolutionary act. 
  1984, George Orwell
   - -
  On 1/13/08, Rukshana Engineer wrote:
  Dear Dr. Carley,

As someone who awoke to vaccine weapon of mass deception about 13 years ago, I 
cannot thank you enough for being a beacon of truth and courage in a sea of 
manipulation and lies.

Dr. Carley, I know you must be exceedingly busy but given your credentials I do 
hope that you can find a bit of time to submit your comments to the www.pbs.org 
re. their Frontline Show recently entitled 'The Medicated Child'. (Re. drugging 
"biopolar children" etc.) Needless to say none of the causes of neurlogical 
problems was addressed. Though I wrote in discussing vaccines as well as 
excitotoxins etc., I think someone introduced with your credentials will get a 
lot more attention from the producers than myself. Yes, we know that these 
people rarely think out of the box and are heavily invested in the vaccine 
dogma. Still, I think it's valuable or them to receive as many e-mails as 
possible re. vaccines. If you could pass this on to others willing to submit 
comments, it would be most appreciated.
  Thank you for your valuable time and for your powerful work taking on the 
criminal vaccine pushers!

Rukshana
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Re: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing

[Dee]

I have definitely read this somewhere Mary.  Dee  

---Original Message--- 

 

From: kayedoe 

Date: 15/01/2008 18:25:36 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing 

 

I FELT COMPELLED TO RAISE A FLAG OF POTENTIAL BODILY HARM USING DMSO 

FOR NEBULIZING 

 

If you are a smoker you would not want to use DMSO to nebulize would
you? 

 


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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Dee]

CS cleared a lymph infection that I had.  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 



 

 Also there are 

Areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS has trouble, such as 

Nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the lymph system. 

 

Marshall 

> 


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Re: CS>Recreational Drugs far less likely to Kill you than Precribed Drugs

[Clayton Family]

ALL drugs are bad for your health, and should only be used when  
absolutely necessary.



On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:32 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/1/15/ 
recreational-drugs-far-less-likely-to-kill-you-than-prescribed- 
drugs.aspx

 
 


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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Clayton Family]

CS also gets to the brain, according to something I read awhile back. 
It was in a critical article on the so called dangers.


On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Leslie wrote:


Since it gets to the brain, I wonder if will detox all
mercury and/or metals out??
--- Marshall Dudley  wrote:


sol wrote:
What exactly do you feel the MMS does that CS cannot do? This is 
where
I don't quite get it. I read of people using it for many things that 
CS or CS/DMSO take care

of perfectly well. Why would I use MMS in  preference to CS?


There is certainly a lot of overlap between the two.
 But there are a couple of things the AMMS might do better than CS.
First is kill parasites, normally CS has no affect on them at all.
  Also there are areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS
has trouble, such as nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and 
the

lymph system.

Marshall


sol

His Child wrote:

 I'm taking MMS now and have not been able
to feel this good in many years.  I slept only 4 hours last night 
like a baby and did NOT get any tired
letdown feeling all the next day.  I've been taking MMS for a 
couple of weeks now, and it's a powerful (be careful of not 
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Re: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing

[kayedoe]

I FELT COMPELLED TO RAISE A FLAG OF POTENTIAL BODILY HARM USING DMSO
FOR NEBULIZING

If you are a smoker you would not want to use DMSO to nebulize would you?

Please correct me if I my understanding is off but the DMSO would
drive the toxins from the lungs (from smoking) deeper into surrounding
tissues,  would it not?

I'd some some clarification or input please.

Thanks, Mary


On 1/13/08, Gail Naranjo  wrote:
>
>
> :
> > From: Scott 
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizing with CS/MSM/DMSO
> >
> > Just a few words about using DMSO with CS in a
> > nebulizer. 
>  We use a 20:80 ratio of
> > 20% DMSO to 80% CS.
> ==
>
> Good point, Scott.  I've never nebulized with DMSO,
> but have always heard the ratio is only 10%, and that
> a lot of coughing will result with it until you get
> the lungs cleared out.
>
> Always use caution.
>
> Gail
>


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Re: CS>OT Franceformer

[Rich Adams]

Sold.


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Anyone looking for a 15K/60ma Franceformer (neon sign transformer)  for 
cheap + shipping (heavy)?  Ole Bob and I used it to make HVAC EIS.


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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Leslie]

Since it gets to the brain, I wonder if will detox all
mercury and/or metals out??
--- Marshall Dudley  wrote:

> sol wrote:
> > What exactly do you feel the MMS does that CS
> cannot do? This is where 
> > I don't quite get it.
> > I read of people using it for many things that CS
> or CS/DMSO take care 
> > of perfectly well. Why would I use MMS in
> preference to CS?
> 
> There is certainly a lot of overlap between the two.
>  But there are a 
> couple of things the AMMS might do better than CS.
> First is kill 
> parasites, normally CS has no affect on them at all.
>   Also there are 
> areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS
> has trouble, such as 
> nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the
> lymph system.
> 
> Marshall
> >
> > sol
> >
> > His Child wrote:
> >>  I'm taking MMS now and have not been able
> >> to feel this good in many years.  I slept only 4
> hours
> >> last night like a baby and did NOT get any tired
> >> letdown feeling all the next day.  I've been
> taking
> >> MMS for a couple of weeks now, and it's a
> powerful (be
> >> careful of not overdoing it) but great health
> aid.
> >>
> >>   
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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Marshall Dudley]

Kirsteen Wright wrote:

On Jan 15, 2008 6:36 AM, Tad Winiecki  wrote:
  

Just as there is a Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy
Spirit, at some future point there will be an unholy trinity,



Can I just point out that not everyone on this list is Christian. My
gods are not your god. I have no objection to anyone posting their
views on any subject - it's how we learn. I do, however, object to
having religious opinion presented as fact.
  


Hmm, can you explain that? If there is only one creation, how can there 
be more than one Creator?


Marshall

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CS>[List Owner] End the religious discussion!

[M. G. Devour]

Carol Ann writes:
> You're absolutely right.  In deference to Mikes wishes and those
> listers not interested,  these types of topics were requested to  be
> taken to Off Topic list. 

Y'r damn right! 

Participants:

Kurt M. -- posted the original article, from an explicitely religious  
oriented source, with obvious tie-ins to end-times prophecy topics, and 
teams up with Nancy to extend the discussion.

Carol Ann -- the first to respond to the religious theme of the source, 
continues the discussion through another post, then, to her credit, 
recognizes the inappropriateness of the topic.

Dee -- adding her 2 cents often enough to make almost a dime...

Faith G. -- ditto

Wayne -- is just Wayne... 

Kirsteen -- playing list cop; entirely understandable but not the 
response I ask of members -- see the list rules, please...

Nancy (aka Tad) -- lecturing us on scriptures as the primary content of 
several messages, in clear violation of the prohibition on religious 
discussions apart from brief asides and incidentals.

So let's drop this thread now. Don't respond further. Don't respond to 
anybody who responds before seeing this message. Let it die.

Thank you.

I'm sorry I wasn't right on top of things, but I have to depend on you 
all to control yourselves if I'm to have any kind of life over here! 


Let's take follow ups to the Off Topic list now:

Faith, if you're receiving the OT list, I have a question for you over 
there.

Kurt, I think there are some questionable assertions in that article, 
which I'll raise as well.

Anything else you'd like to discuss on this, folks, let's take it OT.

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Be well!

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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Marshall Dudley]

sol wrote:
What exactly do you feel the MMS does that CS cannot do? This is where 
I don't quite get it.
I read of people using it for many things that CS or CS/DMSO take care 
of perfectly well. Why would I use MMS in preference to CS?


There is certainly a lot of overlap between the two.  But there are a 
couple of things the AMMS might do better than CS. First is kill 
parasites, normally CS has no affect on them at all.   Also there are 
areas that AMMS might be able to get into that CS has trouble, such as 
nerve ganglia, the brain, cartlidges, joints and the lymph system.


Marshall


sol

His Child wrote:

 I'm taking MMS now and have not been able
to feel this good in many years.  I slept only 4 hours
last night like a baby and did NOT get any tired
letdown feeling all the next day.  I've been taking
MMS for a couple of weeks now, and it's a powerful (be
careful of not overdoing it) but great health aid.

  



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Re: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?

[Marshall Dudley]

leslie1053 wrote:
Does that MMS have chlorine in it? 
The final product after activation is chlorine dioxide.  It has chlorine 
in it, but that does not necessarily mean anything. Salt also has 
chlorine in it, and is essential for life.



Is this the same as Clorox??
No it is not. Clorox is sodium hypochlorite, MMS is sodium chlorite and 
after activation becomes chlorous acid then chlorine dioxide.


Marshall


Leslie
- Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?



Evening Sol,

>> At 04:39 PM 1/14/2008, you wrote:

I hate to be the first to tell you, ...


I'm VERY wary of chlorine in ANY form
my CS. Which, unlike chlorine, is not toxic.


  You are way behind in your study of Nutrients and many other things.

Chlorine is an essential nutrient, required by all plants, all 
animals, and all humans.


What you said is like saying, .
"Water is Toxic and will kill you".

Water, Fire, and I think Ozone might kill you.

The very stuff you are talking about is FDA approved for many things, 
washing chicken, washing other meat, and use in

drinking Water.

Chlorine is a blessing, just like water.  You best get some every 
day, from whatever source you want.


People use chlorinated water for plants, for years, and never have 
any trouble from it.


Going off half cocked, without knowing the facts, is what turns 
people blue, and gives a bad name to a good material.

And you are doing that to Chlorine.

Just how many people in the world have taken MMS with zero problems 
from the chlorine.  Actually, it is Chlorine Dioxide, as you should 
know.


Of course it may be Toxic in specific concentrations and will kill 
man and beast.


I understand it is SO TOXIC, it cannot even be shipped, and must be 
manufactured where it is used.


I only wonder if you avoid every toxic substance on the planet?

Wayne


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Re: CS>Chlorine Dioxide Toxic?

[Dee]

I think it was Wayne that said that.  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Levi Philos 

Date: 15/01/2008 15:40:53 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CS>Chlorine Dioxide Toxic? 

 

Sol posts: "I understand it is SO TOXIC, it cannot even be shipped, and 

Must be manufactured where it is used." 

 

Incorrect presumptions and statement. 

 


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Re: CS>SomalifeGHP

[Dee]

No Faith, its my Incredimail seems to be incompatible with some other email
programs.  I have changed it to accept plain text now, so it should be ok
now for Sol.  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: faith gagne 

Date: 01/15/08 14:20:31 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>SomalifeGHP 

 

I'm not Dee but it sounds as though you need either a new mouse or, more 

Likely, a more compatible mouse pad. 

 

Faith G 

 

 


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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Carol Ann]

Faith,
You're absolutely right.  In deference to Mikes wishes and those listers not 
interested,  these types of topics were requested to  be taken to Off Topic 
list.  I would not have responded to the main list but  it seems that there a a 
few of us who are just not checking the respond addy before replying.   Not 
even the subject title has to do with CS.  Thanks for bringing this to my 
attention.

It also seems that we are going back and forth, unnecessarily, between lists on 
non related CS topics.  Posting to the wrong lists.  I would suggest that 
anyone wishing to respond to a particular post that is NOT CS related, remind 
the  initial poster to  send it to OT if its not CS related.  Surely, Mike and 
others will be spared the  unnecessary  filtering chore.   

faith gagne  wrote: What on earth does this have to do with 
colloidal silver?  Faith G,


- Original Message - 
From: "Tad Winiecki" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns



On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Carol Ann wrote:

> Heck, IF information contained within the body of your post is true 
> and accurate, .even I would join a christian movementproviding 
> they made this their primary opposition objective and crusade as 
> opposed to trying to convert the word to christianity..

Carol Ann- You are probably aware the Bible predicts in the book of 
Revelation that under the Anti-Christ a mark in the forehead or hand 
will be necessary to buy or sell.  Many think this could be a 
micro-chip.  Those who refuse will come under harsh repercussions.  
Those who refuse to worship the Anti-Christ and take the mark of the 
Beast will be beheaded (but will be instantly in the presence of God in 
Heaven).  Those who take the mark will have at most 7 years left, 
probably just 3 1/2 years, and suffer terrible things on the earth- 
sores that won't heal, scorpions that sting, but don't kill, the oceans 
and fresh water becoming like blood, all the grass and trees burned up 
in scorching heat, winds that cause men to die just from fear, (all the 
natural disasters being brought on my man himself)  then be cast into 
the Lake of Fire.  Some choice.

Some Christians believe the Church (body of believers in Messiah 
Yeshua, Jesus) will have been removed from the earth before the 
Tribulation begins and the Anti-Christ is revealed;  this is the hope 
of the Rapture, when the dead in Christ will come out of their graves 
and the living will be transformed instantly into incorruptible bodies 
and will join them in the air.  Jesus  says that those who are worthy 
and watching for His return will not have to go through wrath, Luke 
21:36, and also tells the parable of 10 virgins awaiting the return of 
Bridegroom to take them to the wedding party, 5 of which are left 
behind because they have no oil (the Holy Spirit) in their lamps, and 5 
which go to the wedding party  because they are prepared and watching , 
Matthew 25:1-13.   Some believe in the Rapture at the start of the 7 
year Tribulation, some mid-Trib, some just as Jesus returns to rescue 
the Jews from the final destruction by the Anti-Christ and to set up 
His Kingdom on the earth.  Some don't believe in the Rapture at all.  
The Word is there, people have opinions.  There is still only one 
Truth.

Under the pre-Trib view, being a Christian would spare you from the 
whole Tribulation woes, but not from the wars and rumors of wars, 
increasing earthquakes, and conquest of the whole earth (4 Horsemen of 
the Apocalypse) to create a One World government under 10 kings, marked 
by war, famine, and disease.  So, let's see, being a Christian doesn't 
mean freedom from persecution, war and disease in this world but 
guarantees being in the presence of God and a total lack of all these 
things in Heaven, but someone who believes this should keep it to 
themselves and not try to take anyone with them?  Wouldn't this make 
them monsters?

I should tell you that true Christians are not the ones that make the 
headlines, the ones who bomb abortion clinics, and are big on 
condemnation.  We are actually called to reconcile the world with God 
and tell people that He is not holding their sins against them, they've 
already been paid.  Colossians 1:20, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

Nancy


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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[faith gagne]

Okay, I'll add my 2 cents worth:  If you feel fear, even the tiniest whiff of 
fear or any other negative uncomfortable feeling, that is your first clue that 
you are relying on yourself.  

Now can we get back to CS?  thanks.  Faith g.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:00 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns


  No offense Nancy, but really, I have no interest in what Scribes wrote 2000 
years ago as the word of God, nor would I be truly interested in  throwing 
myself on any religious sharpened sword.Religion does not reveal to me that 
chip implanting infants, the helpless elderly etc, etc. etc. is fundamentally 
wrong. Nor am I in fear of any ethereal beast absconding with  my immortal 
Soul.  

  And although, per the Bible,  that's one hell of a hair raising, fear driven 
rapture scenario you describe, on par, perhaps better, than anything  Edgar 
Allen Poe could have aspired too, at the moment,  I am more concerned with the 
living two legged  beasts  of  government running their rapture ponzi schemes 
under the guise of the good natured humanitarian veils.  I might add, the 
concern is not for myself, but for my children and grandchildren.  My hope is 
only to live long enough to teach them how to effectively use their own swords. 

  Kurt Milkowski  wrote:
Kind of makes you wonder what all those guillotines are for? Great post 
Nancy!

Kurt

Tad Winiecki  wrote:

  On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Carol Ann wrote:

  > Heck, IF information contained within the body of your post is true 
  > and accurate, .even I would join a christian movementproviding 
  > they made this   their primary opposition objective and crusade as 
  > opposed to trying to convert the word to christianity..

  Carol Ann- You are probably aware the Bible predicts in the book of 
  Revelation that under the Anti-Christ a mark in the forehead or hand 
  will be necessary to buy or sell. Many think this could be a 
  micro-chip. Those who refuse will come under harsh repercussions. 
  Those who refuse to worship the Anti-Christ and take the mark of the 
  Beast will be beheaded (but will be instantly in the presence of God in 
  Heaven). Those who take the mark will have at most 7 years left, 
  probably just 3 1/2 years, and suffer terrible things on the earth- 
  sores that won't heal, scorpions that sting, but don't kill, the oceans 
  and fresh water becoming like blood, all the grass and trees burned up 
  in scorching heat, winds that cause men to die just from fear, (all the 
  natural disasters being brought on my man himself) then be cast into 
  the Lake of Fire. Some choice.

  Some Christians believe the Church (body of believers in Messiah 
  Yeshua, Jesus) will have been removed from the earth before the 
  Tribulation begins and the Anti-Christ is revealed; this is the hope 
  of the Rapture, when the dead in Christ will come out of their graves 
  and the living will be transformed instantly into incorruptible bodies 
  and will join them in the air. Jesus says that those who are worthy 
  and watching for His return will not have to go through wrath, Luke 
  21:36, and also tells the parable of 10 virgins awaiting the return of 
  Bridegroom to take them to the wedding party, 5 of which are left 
  behind because they have no oil (the Holy Spirit) in their lamps, and 5 
  which go to the wedding party because they are prepared and watching , 
  Matthew 25:1-13. Some believe in the Rapture at the start of the 7 
  year Tribulation, some mid-Trib, some just as Jesus returns to rescue 
  the Jews from the final destruction by the Anti-Christ and to set up 
  His Kingdom on the earth. Some don't believe in the Rapture at all. 
  The Word is there, people have opinions. There is still only one 
  Truth.

  Under the pre-Trib view, being a Christian would spare you from the 
  whole Tribulation woes, but not from the wars and rumors of wars, 
  increasing earthquakes, and conquest of the whole earth (4 Horsemen of 
  the Apocalypse) to create a One World government under 10 kings, marked 
  by war, famine, and disease. So, let's see, being a Christian doesn't 
  mean freedom from persecution, war and disease in this world but 
  guarantees being in the presence of God and a total lack of all these 
  things in Heaven, but someone who believes this should keep it to 
  themselves and not try to take anyone with them? Wouldn't this make 
  them monsters?

  I should tell you that true Christians are not the ones that make the 
  headlines, the ones who bomb abortion clinics, and are big on 
  condemnation. We are actually called to reconcile the world with God 
  and tell people that 

Re: CS>Re: Cancer - Sarcoma

[faith gagne]

Thaks   I have bookmarked the site.  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:38 AM
Subject: CS>Re: Cancer - Sarcoma



Faith,
You might want to contact the Center for a more local Tibetan Medicine 
practitioner.

Mine began his studies at 8---and it shows!

http://www.tibetanacademy.org/

jr
P.S. Apologies if this is a duplicate; couldn't tell for sure if the 1st 
one went out.



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CS>Chlorine Dioxide Toxic?

[Levi Philos]

Sol posts: "I understand it is SO TOXIC, it cannot even be shipped, and 
must be manufactured where it is used."


Incorrect presumptions and statement.

Sodium Chlorite as a dry powder or flakes can be shipped but is a 
hazardous material. If water drips into the container or the container 
is ruptured and contacts water the material produces heat and a 
splattering explosion. If acid drips into the container or if the 
container is ruptured and contacts acid, chlorine dioxide is produced in 
a more violent reaction.


The chlorine dioxide is a very good (reactive) oxidizer and may in turn 
cause a fire or under the right conditions some kind of splattering 
explosion. These reactions would be accompanied by possible release of 
free chlorine or the release of chlorine compounds of which most are 
somewhat toxic. Sodium Chlorite can be dissolved in water and shipped 
with much greater safety than the dry form.


Do a search for MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for sodium chlorite 
for a more complete and accurate safety description.


Levi Philos


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Re: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?

[Sandee George]

Hi There to all - I have been reading all the text on the above and have
to ask one very
important question of everyone, for my own clarity, are you talking about

MMS  or  MSM- they are horses of very different colors
!Would someone give the actual translation of what they both are
technically so that clarity for  
me, if for no one else, is achieved !!  Thanks
Regards to all
Sandee

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset


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Re: CS>Re: SomaLife gHP (from experience)

[Dee]

I wouldn't want that!   Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Duncan Crow
Date: 14/01/2008 22:20:37
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: SomaLife gHP (from experience)
 
Dee (and all) --
 and even
rejuvenated some of the older girls enough so they
started menstruating again.
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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Dee]

Isn't that rather giving people carte blanche to do just what they please
then? Just a thought. Dee 



---Original Message--- 

 



And tell people that He is not holding their sins against them, they've 

Already been paid. Colossians 1:20, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19 

 

Nancy 

 

 

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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[faith gagne]

What rubbish.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tad Winiecki" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns


No offense taken.  The chips under discussion are just co-incidental, 
are they necessary to buy or sell?  The mark in the Bible may not be a 
computer chip but will be necessary to buy or sell.


Just as there is a Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy 
Spirit, at some future point there will be an unholy trinity, The Beast 
(Anti-Christ), the False Prophet, and the Dragon (Satan).  They will 
not be able to take choice away from you, they will just force to make 
one.


Nancy

On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Carol Ann wrote:

Religion does not reveal to me that chip implanting infants, the 
helpless elderly etc, etc. etc. is fundamentally wrong. Nor am I in 
fear of any ethereal beast absconding with my immortal Soul. 


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Re: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?

[Carol Ann]

When considering substances that find their way into drinking water supplies, 
ie. hormones, fertilizers, breeding parasites, etc.etc. Ozone being the safest 
Chlorine appears to be the  second best choice. 

Dee   wrote:v\:* {  BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml) }  v\:* 
{  BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml) }79F8FDE2-E90C-4120-9A2C-E484CCFAA091   
 http://us.f600.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Upload?Data=upl948163238 repeat #f3eded left 
top BCEB29C0-42D3-11D4-BA3E-0050DAC68030 0 BCEB29C0-42D3-11D4-BA3E-0050DAC68030 
1 A5BE2A00-37CC-11D4-BA36-0050DAC68030 0 A5BE2A00-37CC-11D4-BA36-0050DAC68030 1 
601231A0-325F-11D4-BA2D-0050DAC68030 0 X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD ;The 
trouble with this is, that every living thing is different in make up to the 
next, ostensibly, identical being.  What is highly toxic for one, may not be 
for another.  How do we know which of us is likely to be affected, by even the 
smallest dose?  And I don't believe chlorine in drinking water, *is* safe. Dee 
  
 ---Original Message---
  
  From: Wayne Fugitt
 Date: 14/01/2008 23:47:17
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?

  
  
 I only wonder if you avoid every toxic substance on the planet?
  
 Wayne
  
  
  
 
 



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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Dee]

I have to agree with you Carol Ann, but fear we are straying into forbidden
territory  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Carol Ann 

Date: 15/01/2008 04:21:30 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns 

 

No offense Nancy, but really, I have no interest in what Scribes wrote 2000
years ago as the word of God, nor would I be truly interested in throwing
myself on any religious sharpened sword. Religion does not reveal to me that
chip implanting infants, the helpless elderly etc, etc. Etc. Is
fundamentally wrong. Nor am I in fear of any ethereal beast absconding with
my immortal Soul. 

 


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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[faith gagne]

What on earth does this have to do with colloidal silver?  Faith G,


- Original Message - 
From: "Tad Winiecki" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns



On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Carol Ann wrote:

Heck, IF information contained within the body of your post is true 
and accurate, .even I would join a christian movementproviding 
they made this their primary opposition objective and crusade as 
opposed to trying to convert the word to christianity..


Carol Ann- You are probably aware the Bible predicts in the book of 
Revelation that under the Anti-Christ a mark in the forehead or hand 
will be necessary to buy or sell.  Many think this could be a 
micro-chip.  Those who refuse will come under harsh repercussions.  
Those who refuse to worship the Anti-Christ and take the mark of the 
Beast will be beheaded (but will be instantly in the presence of God in 
Heaven).  Those who take the mark will have at most 7 years left, 
probably just 3 1/2 years, and suffer terrible things on the earth- 
sores that won't heal, scorpions that sting, but don't kill, the oceans 
and fresh water becoming like blood, all the grass and trees burned up 
in scorching heat, winds that cause men to die just from fear, (all the 
natural disasters being brought on my man himself)  then be cast into 
the Lake of Fire.  Some choice.


Some Christians believe the Church (body of believers in Messiah 
Yeshua, Jesus) will have been removed from the earth before the 
Tribulation begins and the Anti-Christ is revealed;  this is the hope 
of the Rapture, when the dead in Christ will come out of their graves 
and the living will be transformed instantly into incorruptible bodies 
and will join them in the air.  Jesus  says that those who are worthy 
and watching for His return will not have to go through wrath, Luke 
21:36, and also tells the parable of 10 virgins awaiting the return of 
Bridegroom to take them to the wedding party, 5 of which are left 
behind because they have no oil (the Holy Spirit) in their lamps, and 5 
which go to the wedding party  because they are prepared and watching , 
Matthew 25:1-13.   Some believe in the Rapture at the start of the 7 
year Tribulation, some mid-Trib, some just as Jesus returns to rescue 
the Jews from the final destruction by the Anti-Christ and to set up 
His Kingdom on the earth.  Some don't believe in the Rapture at all.  
The Word is there, people have opinions.  There is still only one 
Truth.


Under the pre-Trib view, being a Christian would spare you from the 
whole Tribulation woes, but not from the wars and rumors of wars, 
increasing earthquakes, and conquest of the whole earth (4 Horsemen of 
the Apocalypse) to create a One World government under 10 kings, marked 
by war, famine, and disease.  So, let's see, being a Christian doesn't 
mean freedom from persecution, war and disease in this world but 
guarantees being in the presence of God and a total lack of all these 
things in Heaven, but someone who believes this should keep it to 
themselves and not try to take anyone with them?  Wouldn't this make 
them monsters?


I should tell you that true Christians are not the ones that make the 
headlines, the ones who bomb abortion clinics, and are big on 
condemnation.  We are actually called to reconcile the world with God 
and tell people that He is not holding their sins against them, they've 
already been paid.  Colossians 1:20, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19


Nancy


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Re: CS>SomalifeGHP

[faith gagne]

I'm not Dee but it sounds as though you need either a new mouse or, more 
likely, a more compatible mouse pad.


Faith G


- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: CS>SomalifeGHP


That is the claim. I am actually planning to reduce some other expenses 
this year, including some other supplements, and hope to free up enough $$ 
to give it a try. I REALLY can't afford it, but if I can cut enough $$ 
from other places, I could try it maybe for a couple months. But I can't 
remember if a 2 month trial is long enough to see any benefits


What format do you send emails in Dee? I can't crop your text, and when I 
try to delete to shorten my answer
my cursor goes wonky, and I can't edit my own text, or place the cursor 
where I want it. To fix this I have to shut down my computer and reboot 
it. Any ideas why this happens?

sol

Dee wrote:









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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Dee]

Just endorses my opinion that none of its worth bothering with, because
everyone is convinced that they are right, and they can't be. Can they?  Dee
 



---Original Message--- 

 

 

Can I just point out that not everyone on this list is Christian. My 

Gods are not your god. 


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CS>Recreational Drugs far less likely to Kill you than Precribed Drugs

[Kurt Milkowski]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/1/15/recreational-drugs-far-less-likely-to-kill-you-than-prescribed-drugs.aspx
   
   

Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure? WORKED FOR ME!

[Dee]

But is this true for everyone?  Maybe not.  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

However, 

If taken in small enough dosages it can be a life saver with no side effects


At all. Hope this helps. 


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Re: CS>SomalifeGHP

[Dee]

Mind you, you'd think SomaLife would refute the statements made or sue the
company which is putting out false information, wouldn't you?  After all,
they seem to put themselves up as an independent  'scientific body' or at
least, the site gives that impression. But I think they are in reality,
recommending something called Longevity, which is supposed to be the 'bees
knees' of HGH products. Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: sol
Date: 14/01/2008 22:56:53
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>SomalifeGHP
 
Check out Duncan Crow's site I think he has links to the SomaLife
research studies. Or he can tell you where to find the research if you
post a question specifically to him. Or maybe he will see your question
here and respond.
sol
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Re: CS>SomalifeGHP

[Dee]

Sorry about that Sol, my Incredimail had somehow got off the plain text
setting (!) I have set it back, so let me know if it is ok on this reply.
Dee 

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What format do you send emails in Dee? I can't crop your text, and when 

I try to delete to shorten my answer 

My cursor goes wonky, and I can't edit my own text, or place the cursor 

Where I want it. To fix this I have to shut down my computer and reboot 

It. Any ideas why this happens? 

Sol 

 


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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[Teri]

Right now we are trying to see if it advanced my husband cancer or the 
die off is why all of his lymph nodes are swelling.  His cancer is T 
Cell Lymphoma and he won't let the Dr.'s tale one of his lymph nodes out 
to find out.  But I can tell you he is in the worst shape he has even 
been in,


Teri

leslie1053 wrote:
All I have heard is that it is supposed to cure cancer?? CS doesn't do 
that as far as I know. I love CS but it does have a few limitations. I 
do good just to make the CS.

Leslie




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Re: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?

[Dee]

The trouble with this is, that every living thing is different in make up to
the next, ostensibly, identical being.  What is highly toxic for one, may
not be for another.  How do we know which of us is likely to be affected, by
even the smallest dose?  And I don't believe chlorine in drinking water,
*is* safe. Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 14/01/2008 23:47:17
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?
 
 
I only wonder if you avoid every toxic substance on the planet?
 
Wayne
 
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Re: CS>Re: Cancer - Sarcoma

[Dee]

Brilliant stuff, jr!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: sarongs...@cox.net
Date: 14/01/2008 22:39:33
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Cancer - Sarcoma
 
Tells you.  When I came back 30 days later, the growth had disappeared,
never to return.  This is now 5 years later.
Powerful medicine---can't recommend them enough!<>

Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Nancy,

>> At 12:36 AM 1/15/2008, you wrote:

The mark in the Bible may not be a computer chip

>> The Beast (Anti-Christ), the False Prophet, and the Dragon (Satan).

I see a lot of people that I think are the Beast.

I keep looking for the "Mark" and do not see one.

So,  I beware, and have marked them in my mind as a Beast, so what else 
matters ?


Wayne

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Re: CS>Doctor alleges plans underway to "microchip" newborns

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Jan 15, 2008 6:36 AM, Tad Winiecki  wrote:
> Just as there is a Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy
> Spirit, at some future point there will be an unholy trinity,

Can I just point out that not everyone on this list is Christian. My
gods are not your god. I have no objection to anyone posting their
views on any subject - it's how we learn. I do, however, object to
having religious opinion presented as fact.

Kirsteen (servant of Vesta, client of Mars)


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